One of the closest fights we've seen recently. Tough one to score.

@JR-bw3tr

2 жыл бұрын

Weasle you are the John Danaher of this generation , your breakdowns are the most , even for us followers. i would not be even suprised to hear your words in other mma analyst mouth , and not give you the credit due.... thanks bro your the best out .....

@johnnybacon8675

2 жыл бұрын

Heavy = 3 points Medium = 2 points Light = 1 point ? Idono just sayin..

@destroyerofmorons

2 жыл бұрын

No it’s fucking not Adesanya CLEARLY won 48-47 end of debate

@last0pti0n

2 жыл бұрын

@@destroyerofmorons u mad cos rob really won

@OnAeeir

2 жыл бұрын

close but not tough to score rob won rd 2 4 an 5

It’s crazy how they didn’t really give credit to Rob for his sub attempt. When I was checking ESPN for stats they never showed a sub attempt. Yet they gave one to Mana Martinez for his quick arm bar attempt on Robbie Lawrence.

@Camriel

2 жыл бұрын

half rigged

@GoodStuff1992

2 жыл бұрын

If you give credit to rob for a sub attempt, should you give credit to izzy for a sub eacape?

@gaminggaming-dy7gs

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodStuff1992 No, the same way you wouldn't take into consideration blocking a jab. Defending strikes and submission attempts is not weighed at all according to the Unified Rules. Even If the effective striking/grappling was equal, we would have to go based on the effective aggressiveness which means that the attacker takes the round and the one defending loses it.

@govindraghavan9493

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodStuff1992 You dont get points for checking leg kicks. It still counts as a light shot at the minimum. So the Same goes for Sub attempts. Rob tried to finish the fight. It could have been over and izzy only escaped by a thin margin. So the round should be scored for Bobby definitively

@Ready_Fire_Aim

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodStuff1992 yeah. even commentary followed. saying the subs obviously didnt do anything cause he was up so fast as opposed to jan fight

Insane how Bisping and some fans were acting like this was a dominant performance for Adesanya when the rounds he won were incredibly close except the first. I thought Whittaker won 2,4,5 but listening to Bisping you would think Izzy won 50 - 45 before the fight even began

@kggarkalns1358

2 жыл бұрын

That's why many fans think it was one-sided-beating. They were listening to Daniel "Adesanya gave me a box of donuts before the fight" Cormier and Micheal "One Eye Pirate" Bisping. Completely biased commentary. The fight was close and great.

@MMAClipper

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@T1tusCr0w

2 жыл бұрын

Yep I’m very disappointed in Bisping tbh. He usually does a pretty good job and with the Rogan situation this could have been his chance to really shine. Instead I came away shaking my head and wondering if he got told to push Izzy due to him signing a massive new contract. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@cosmicrays425

2 жыл бұрын

In-general, I've noticed that the commentators seem determined to put Izzy over as some kind of devastating knock-out artist. But his only truly stupendous knock-outs in the UFC have been Whittaker 1 (and if I remember right, he had just recovered from an illness at the time) and Costa (who, let's be honest, isn't exactly bringing a 300 Fight IQ to the table). Not to say Izzy isn't immensely talented, of course. However, he's definitely more of a point fighter than this precision knock-out machine, and I don't think he's nearly as unbeatable as the UFC suits would have you believe.

@Scoobay

2 жыл бұрын

His argument was that Izzy was winning the rounds but they were all very close other than the first and maybe the fifth. 2,3,4 were almost swing rounds but imo lost 3 and 4 by a small margin, and I can see the argument for why Adesanya took every round except the fifth. Dominance on the scorecard doesn’t always show the full picture.

Any time the champ says “ you got to take the belt” they probably lost 😂

@andrewvellos9735

2 жыл бұрын

Or draw, but yeah 😂

@disturbed157

2 жыл бұрын

True at the end of the day it's a fight, the belt doesn't mean you get it if its close

@CTKahuna

2 жыл бұрын

The wolf is going to grab that belt in less than a year *remeber this comment when he does

@fikazon6938

2 жыл бұрын

@@CTKahuna we've heard that many times. It was Romero, then Costa then Vettori, followed by Rob. And now is the Wolf. The next one is always the sure one to take the belt. You should know better by now. Izzy has no match in that division right now. Hate him or love him. Nothing you can do about that

@CTKahuna

2 жыл бұрын

@@fikazon6938 Only time will tell SIDENOTE: I never said this about any of the other people you just named. 2. There is no way izzy defends a take down from khamzat there a reason izzy stayed quite at the press conference you could see it in his eye

A lot of robs “light jabs” were snapping Izzy’s head back the whole fight lol

@sergerivers1812

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what he said in the video

@oXahusTz

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergerivers1812 what I’m saying is how are they light jabs compared to Izzy’s actual light jabs robs had more impact than a light strike

@FreshBOI1579

2 жыл бұрын

@@oXahusTz because it didn’t REALLY have an impact on Izzy.

@oXahusTz

2 жыл бұрын

@@FreshBOI1579 did the leg kicks REALLY have an impact then either because Whitaker was still fresh on it in the fifth never switched stances lol

@josephvilla562

2 жыл бұрын

@@oXahusTz very good point but the Izzy fans don’t wanna bring this up

Personally I think it could have gone either way, but I hate the mindset “to be the champ you have to beat the champ” .. just because you’re the champ shouldn’t mean you have an advantage in the scoring

@mrelmokills

2 жыл бұрын

you completely misunderstood that quote

@MrAdenWilliams

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrelmokills just talking about in general, even izzy said it in the post fight press conference

@LiterallyRiggtarded

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrAdenWilliams Izzy talking nonsense there is no such thing

@brandonamezquita4501

2 жыл бұрын

It's not even in the rules; people just say it, which is annoying.

@sallgoodman2323

2 жыл бұрын

Some literals up in here....

Dude, you worked all night then bust out this vid - props to your work ethic! 💯💯💯

@johnnybacon8675

2 жыл бұрын

"Thankyou so much man!"

@TheWeasleMMA

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you man, I do it for you guys

@sallgoodman2323

2 жыл бұрын

Man's got focus. I can appreciate it, Weasle is the best.

@nf1

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWeasleMMA I'm always looking forward to these breakdowns after the fights. Best mma channel hands down

@peergynt9852

2 жыл бұрын

Calm down cheer leader.

I like how you broke down the judging criteria and applied it to each round. It makes it easier to see how rounds are supposed to be judged according to the criteria and not just a gut feeling.

@jeremytaylor988

Жыл бұрын

The weasel is often wrong in his scoring of rds himself.seen him a few times say things that weren't accurate

@rtatata8290

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@jeremytaylor988can u give some examples?

I'm a big Adesanya fan and I totally agree with this breakdown. The first round looked amazing for Israel and I thought it was going to be a massacre just like the first fight, Rob looked beaten up physically and mentally when he sat down after that round, but he got a second wind, pulled himself together and I believe he won this fight.

@walterumeh8063

2 жыл бұрын

Like seriously? You ain't know shit

@ajebabs3796

2 жыл бұрын

You have to knock down the champion. You don't know shit.

@wilcoxbrown275

2 жыл бұрын

UFC will never be what it is if people like you were to be the judges

@xxanonymousbeastxx5566

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajebabs3796 At the end of the day, the saying that ("You can't just beat the champion to win") is BS.... As long as you did enough to win, you should win and that's it! And Rob did that...

@davidawonaike1188

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure what fight you were watching, Izzy didn’t even look like he got into a fight after it was set and done. While Rob had significantly more dmg done to him. Whittaker won max 2 rounds

Ur quick breakdowns are straight to the point, systematic, and comprehensive. They are also quick to be uploaded, credit to you! All facts here

It’s so weird how the “3 kings” all just fought their De facto rival. Usman with Colby Francis with Gane And Izzy with Whittaker And what’s also crazy is that the score cards were all the exact same For all 3 fights the judges gave the 3 champs two 48-47’s and one 49-46. Plus with all 3 fight Weasle made a who really won for all 3 and in each one you can argue the challenger won or in Colbys case earned a draw.

@uwotm8634

2 жыл бұрын

I wish people would stop calling close fights robberies. Jones vs Reyes for example is a better example of a robbery, the rounds weren't very close.

@DrooledOn

2 жыл бұрын

You can definitely argue Colby won 3-2

@chigozieukwuomah

2 жыл бұрын

Y'all guys doing everything to discredit the African champs. Stop hating for once in your lives. They all deserve their titles. And arguing for Colby is just weak. He definitely lost the most convincingly.

@ironsheik8047

2 жыл бұрын

@@chigozieukwuomah it’s not that their African lol it’s the horrible judges in this sport. Right this moment their are 3 African champs so their sample size is larger. Oh and yeah Colby did not lose convincingly whatsoever. He won more rounds in both their fights then usman did

@YOLOGAY39

2 жыл бұрын

@@uwotm8634 Reyes won 2 clearly and Jones clearly won 2, the one round which Arguably could ove went to both depends on if you as a judge value damage over controlling of pace and control. Reyes prob won but to be fair their is a huge argument that Jones won aswell. If you want to win you cant let fights go to the judges from there on its a toss up. And lets be real in close rounds where there isnt a clear winner the round will go to the champ. To be the champ you got to beat the champ. Especially some1 like Jones who is arguably the GOAT of mma is hard to hand a loss to in a close fight

It seemed to me that the judges totally closed their eyes to the grappling - Thank you, for your (always) insightful breakdowns...

@War-child_

2 жыл бұрын

Mans did nothing with the grappling, just say you hate easy and we move on

@MartialArtsTechniquesideas

2 жыл бұрын

Because there was nothing to see

@skipperad007

2 жыл бұрын

@@War-child_ he did take the man down and that need to be scored in the judging. Sit down fanboy

@marcos0055101

2 жыл бұрын

Dominant positions like taking the back counts alot

@smac919

2 жыл бұрын

Rob didn’t do shit with the takedowns though lol

Awesome breakdown, thought this fight was a lot closer than the commentators made it seem. Thought it could have been 2-2 going into the 5th, they made it seem like Rob was down 0-4. Real close fight, feel it was 3-2 either way.

@7figamutherfookingiba42

2 жыл бұрын

Adasanya won rounds 1 3 4 and the first round could have been a ten eight because adesanya was already winning that round and would of won that round regardless of the knockdown 10 9 plus the knockdown ten eight and also in the second round i don’t think Robert won that round cause of 5 second control time and I don’t think Robert won the fourth round over a failed submission attempt

@faizianwar

2 жыл бұрын

@@7figamutherfookingiba42 4th round? So you are also going to ignore the sub attempt?

@phantom_mist1726

2 жыл бұрын

I love Michael Bisping, but I thought I was going crazy! I belived it was a close fight watching it live but he made it sound like Izzy was schooling Rob lol

@papichulo4493

2 жыл бұрын

@@7figamutherfookingiba42 no way he absolutely lost 2,4,5 and it’s not even close I want some of what you’re smoking thinking

@Laeplexity

2 жыл бұрын

@@papichulo4493 that take down didn’t make up for his light strikes so izzy still held that round idk what judging says a takedown with no advanced position makes up for strikes I’m so he was right with izzy winning 2

Izzy’s “aggression” is basically just another faint. He tried to bait people into attacking him reflexively/wildly so he can counter them, but it’s mostly just bait.

@jmiahrealone

2 жыл бұрын

he wins by feinting

@TheThigh

2 жыл бұрын

It also allows Adesanya to pressure his opponent into moving in a certain direction and gives him space to work, while simultaneously making his opponent move backwards and reactively; which makes them use more energy. It’s not as simple as being a tool to pressure out aggression.

@jacobdestern4288

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t understand how this somehow would mean Whittaker wins. I get Izzy’s aggression wasn’t up to par blah blah. But do you really believe Whittaker had more aggression with less strikes landed at a lower accuracy? I really don’t understand the logic here.

@LostOne587

2 жыл бұрын

wildly? he clearly sets his shit up lol. Its not like he knows how his opponents are going to react he just trying to set up his attack and if they bite it could be lights out. it's called being a good fighter lol.

@jamesnicholls1180

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobdestern4288 adesanya should be getting points deducted for timidity

Can we appriciate one judge giving Rob the 2nd and not the 5th 😂

@jonathan-3008

2 жыл бұрын

dont know what he was smoking 😂

@ibraheemali7028

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathan-3008 man was sniffing on that herb Dean 😂😂😂.

@ibraheemali7028

2 жыл бұрын

@nøc damn, explains why kieth peterson had that smell then, all them refs on hella drugs.

@TeemoForLife

2 жыл бұрын

@nøc so the judge was a ref and got it completely off....so low IQ. Failed even with both jobs that should make him competent

I actually tallied up all the strikes and watched it closely for round 4 and had it 15-9 for Whittaker, both having 1 medium, and the effective grappling for sure made Whittaker the clear winner of that round. Adesanya won rounds 1-3 and Whittaker won rounds 2-4-5. 48-47.

Great analysis! I'll be honest, when I was watching the fight I had Izzy winning 3 rounds but when you look at slowed down in-depth analysis you see where you could give this to Rob. Really close fight from the 2 best middleweights in UFC right now. Where Whittaker goes from here is the big question.

@closinginonclosure

2 жыл бұрын

The only problem is that in this video he's judging in accordance to the new rules. Texas didn't adopt the new rules, and the Texas Athletic Commission judges in accordance to the old rules.

@khalidqureshi3168

2 жыл бұрын

@@closinginonclosure what does that mean?

@closinginonclosure

2 жыл бұрын

@@khalidqureshi3168 The judging criteria is different. Fights are judged differently under the old rules vs the new unified rules. A 10-8 under the new rules may be a 10-9 under the old, for example. Under the new rules it's mostly damage over everything and attempts to finish a fight. For example a takedown doesn't mean anything at all by itself. Under the old rules it's something that gives you points by itself. Ultimately, not all states adopted the new rules. Texas is one of those states. The Weasle judged this under the new unified rules and that's the wrong criteria to judge this fight. If you're interested in looking further into the new and old rule differences, you should be able to easily find some information through a Google search.

I thought I was going crazy, surrounded by those that couldn't see how close the fight was - and that arguably Rob actually won. That commentary from Bisping especially didn't help - at times I thought I was watching a different fight.

@garystringer2582

2 жыл бұрын

Two things Izzy had going for him in the fight in his defence. His TDD was a beautiful display at times, and key to keeping it where he needed it to be. Rob couldn't really impose his will with his wrestling effectively, and it certainly wasn't for want of trying. Second thing, I think Izzy caused more physical damage. You just have to look at both of them after the fight. I wouldn't have been upset with a draw and then running it back for the trilogy.

@FIddlertheleper

2 жыл бұрын

@@Charles-mv7sv That's actually the exact opposite of true. A dominant champ actually lowers viewing numbers, the commentary and punditry have a vested interest to convince the viewers that the challenger has a real shot at defeating the champion or there's little to no drama to get people interested in watching. (This is largely why Jon Jones didn't do very well in pay-per-view numbers even before his own character started getting in his way, people just couldn't see his opponent's beating him, and far fewer people are willing to pay to see a fight if they are already sure of the outcome.) I think what Bisping and the commentary crew were getting swept up in was the way Izzy was controlling the fight. Izzy wasn't doing anything too special for the most part, but nothing Rob did ever seemed to manage to throw Izzy off his game, while up until the last couple rounds the same couldn't have been said for Rob. Definately not trying to say they weren't overselling Izzy's performance or underselling Rob, but that goes against the interest's of the UFC. (Biggest money making opportunity for the UFC would have been to have Rob win, and set up a true trilogy.)

@MMD-z6z

2 жыл бұрын

Bisping needs to stop drinking or not commentate drunk/pissed.

@zulfaniaziz8918

2 жыл бұрын

bisping should be banned obviously

@squidlings

2 жыл бұрын

100% this. Bisping the dick rider was terrible. Izzy has huge reach advantage it's easier for him to sit back and poach. It's like fighting with sticks in your hands. Rob was getting to him first and take downs. Almost had a rnc. I was amazed by robs performance. Historically he is poor against kickboxer. (izzy and wonderboy) Anyway, I'm unhappy with the decision but it's not a total sham. It was a close fight.

Rob said he thought he did enough... Apparently by TheWeasle's objective breakdown, he was right. Rob, we love you mate!

@itzAndy03

2 жыл бұрын

But you cant just do slightly enough and expect to get the belt. Dominic Reyes beat Jones by a lot more and still lost

@bobjones5825

2 жыл бұрын

@@itzAndy03 dumb take.

@jonwifebeaterjones6389

2 жыл бұрын

@@itzAndy03 yeah that was a robbery too. That beat the champ to be the champ thing is complete nonsense and not part of the rules. Shouldn't influence any decisions but it unfortunately does

@luk303

2 жыл бұрын

This is not an objective breakdown per se. While obviously he tried to approach it as objectively and neutral as one can, in every interpretation of those shots (i.e. if you count the heavy leg kicks as only medium, or the snapping back of a head after a jab, when the fighters head was in a backwards movement before the strike even landed etc.) there will ultimately be some bias and personal opinions involved & TheWeasel never denied this and stated that this is his opinion and not a ultimate objective breakdown by some kind of machine.

@Alactic

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonwifebeaterjones6389 I hate when ppl like you say it’s a robbery it’s a close fight not a robbery

Rewatched this and bispings commentary was ridiculously biased to Izzy

@user-nv2wt4hi8t

Жыл бұрын

I remember man, talking about Rob being scared and all this silliness. Commentators need to stop seeping their biases, narratives and declarations into the fight, it's not their job to sway people one way or another and saying 'I have so and so up 4-1' or whatever, especially on close fights, needs to stop.

I wish they had given it to Whittaker just to spice up the timeline.

@andreilyas1426

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you prefer Isreal to be the one robbed ?

@jsphlml

2 жыл бұрын

Andre Ilyas because it wouldn’t have been a robbery…..

one of the judges gave 49-46 to Izzy and that one round he gave to Rob wasnt even the 5th, the one he most clearly won lmfao are these judges even watching the fights at this point

@DasFlippityFlop

2 жыл бұрын

I thought round 4 was an obvious win by Rob.

@Dilpil01

2 жыл бұрын

@L not corruption, just incompetency

@serious409

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dilpil01 lol no

@DasFlippityFlop

2 жыл бұрын

@@serious409 yes lol. Judges in mma and boxing suck I know it's hard but they suck. It's probably easier to see the fight on TV than in person maybe they just need better technology and help. Like after every round they should have a graphic showing all the strikes and takedowns that actually landed

@TheStraightestWhitest

2 жыл бұрын

@Pwagismyname I thought the third was possibly Izzy's. Izzy was ahead 4 or 5 strikes and Rob didn't get much done besides the takedown. So that purely depends on how heavily you score control and takedowns vs a few leg kicks.

I had Rob 2/4/5, there was a HUGE commentary bias towards Izzy in this fight. I like Bisping, but comeon man -- that was some shameful shit.

@ananthshreya

2 жыл бұрын

Aggreed. i am not a homer for any of these guys but it felt like they were talking about the fight like a 4-1 or 5-0 wash out. I didnt give rob r2 live but i gave him r4 and r5 pretty clear. thats a 3-2 fight fr izzy at worst for rob. and in r4 and r5 rob almost got finishes. its nto like he was being pasive or anything like bisping was making it out to be.

@crazykubla

2 жыл бұрын

Commentary needs to stop judging the fights. Its ok to have an opinion but calling rounds for 1 fighter or another is overstepping big time.

@enigma372

2 жыл бұрын

Shameful? Robs fans are shameful always driding rob so hard or literally anyone who fights Izzy atp

@thejkyle

2 жыл бұрын

I watched it with a few friends. Myself and 4 friends had it the same as you and 2 had it for Izzy

@Lakas78

2 жыл бұрын

100%

As a big fan of Robert Whittaker and someone who also thought he won the fight, thank you so much for making this video. This was perfectly made and broken down. The grappling was what should’ve made a difference since the striking was so close. That’s how I saw it. Robert Whittaker fought exactly how you need to fight Izzy if you’re going to have a chess match with him. Basically it’s what Yoel Romero TRIED to do lol. Robert Whittaker should be the champion rn but it’s all good cause I believe they’ll run it back if Rob wins another 2 fights (which he will).

@ozzee5094

2 жыл бұрын

Whittaker will never be a champ again get over it you silly child 😂😂😂

@kiritochad

Жыл бұрын

@@ozzee5094 Get over it boy, it was a razor close fight. Izzy leave A LOT of doubt with this fight with Rob.

@benpietrzykowski9216

Жыл бұрын

Pierra beats Israel , Whittaker beats Costa. They fight for title in Brazil in July and Robert wins . I agree w you

@DecodingWithJordan

Жыл бұрын

@@ozzee5094 cheer up mate. Better days to come ❤️

@fumky4768

Жыл бұрын

@@ozzee5094 rob is a killer, if poatan beats Izzy rob is gonna maul him

I thought Robert won this fight watching it live. Turns out I was right.

Thank you for taking this analysis into deep scrutiniy. I also thought, Izzy 48-47, though, at times, I could have seen it as a draw. It felt like Jones vs. Reyes fight, but Robert used his takedown and submission attempt, although didn't stick to it. In terms of variation, Rob did more. But Michael Bisping acting like Izzy totally outclassed Rob is totally ridiculous

@pingo6874

2 жыл бұрын

Jones vs Reyes was pretty clear. The judges had it wrong. Here it could have went either way but I thought Izzy won.

@jonbonesmahomes7472

2 жыл бұрын

@@pingo6874 No ,they didnt have it wrong.. Jones won 4 aand 5 Round 2 was razor thin close and they gave it to Jones

@MrEmman12

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonbonesmahomes7472 Jones was outstruck in rounds 1-3 with no TDs on either side

@jonbonesmahomes7472

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrEmman12 Nope ..round 2 was so.so close..watch the fight again..

@jonbonesmahomes7472

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrEmman12 actually round 3 was close.. I made a mistake.. Sothe judges gave it to Jones..

Yeah I had rob winning the judge giving Izzy a 49-46 and giving Rob the hardest round to score is just insane to me

@Maartun

2 жыл бұрын

Almost everyone had Robert winning 2, 4 & 5 This fight was a robbery but the commentary annoyed me so much, listening to the commentary sounded like israel was destroying Robert.

@joeyblom6402

2 жыл бұрын

@@Maartun jij bent dom

@joeyblom6402

2 жыл бұрын

@@Maartun sws niet gekeken

@MrEmman12

2 жыл бұрын

@@Maartun no they didn’t and no the commentary didn’t sound like Israel was destroying Rob, you’re just overly emotional and want to throw around the word robbery. They kept saying how close the fight was.

@christian_urocar

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrEmman12 DC was alittle more unbiased but the rest were biased. I can’t say rob won, but I don’t think izzy did enough to win either .Just being the champ doesn’t make you automatically get points, you gotta put in work, and izzy just doesn’t , or else nobody comments would be complaining about it . It not that we don’t think he’s good but we don’t think he does enough for as good as he is

Nice one! I think for the Round 2 analysis, if you're saying that only one fighter landed a heavy blow, you don't really need to consider whether the light strike imbalance was covered or not, because immediate impact is weighted more heavily than cumulative impact. I think it's a nice addition to the case for Whittaker but not really necessary. Kudos for saying aggression rather than the official "aggressiveness". Weasle is teaching us English as well as MMA!

@idancemyassintothepaint7571

2 жыл бұрын

Great point. Heavy blows always outweigh small cumulative shots in scoring.

Can we take a moment to remember that one of the judges gave the 5th round to Izzy. Good Lord 🤦‍♂️

@benziz2009

2 жыл бұрын

I gave him the 5th round too he outlanded him by 4 strikes

@mikemorris9902

Жыл бұрын

Disgusting.

Most of Izzy's title bouts were close fights: Romero, Gastelum, and RW2. His 2 magnificent performances were: RW1, and Costa. He has more close fights than dominant wins.

@uchenna127

2 жыл бұрын

Gastelum wasn't a title fight, and none of Izzy's fights have been close. A close fight is a split decision, he's won all of them either by stoppage or unanimous decision.

@Zolo00

2 жыл бұрын

Cool story. Whittaker is still 0-2

@Blaz1ngFury

2 жыл бұрын

Who are you ?

@truthseeker96

2 жыл бұрын

@@uchenna127 Gastelum was a title fight (Interim). And he won "unanimously" in Romero and RW2 just because of the Judges.

@donovanchilton5817

2 жыл бұрын

@@uchenna127 Gastelum was an interim title fight. That's a title.

I really hate to say this as a person who has never had a professional or amateur fight but I find it so ridiculous that in title fights you have to “bring it” to the champ to get the nod. Every fight is scored by the same criteria and people somehow don’t understand it. Can people just read the damn scoring rules? I mean even Beltran one of the best refs in the game gave it 49-46 Izzy. HOW IS THE POSSIBLE? These dudes livelihoods are on the line and these judges can’t educate themselves.

@sestey

2 жыл бұрын

Is it really the ref is the judge? Could there not be a conflict of interest somewhere?

@peergynt9852

2 жыл бұрын

@@sestey : O

@brandonamezquita4501

2 жыл бұрын

They're trying to do a UFC Africa.

@alfieboyyy376

2 жыл бұрын

@@sestey he wasn't the ref for that fight, but he had been on other fights on the card. Seems very weird to me that they couldn't get judges for all the fights

@ironsheik8047

2 жыл бұрын

@@sestey no I think he is just licensed to judge in Texas and ref. He did not judge and ref that fight. Only judge

Watching live I honestly thought izzy won, but looking back I can't quite understand why I believed that when I knew rounds 4 and 5 were convincing and there was an arguable 2nd round for rob as well. Great breakdown as usual man!

@daviz088

2 жыл бұрын

Rob's performance + emotions +Bisping egregious commentary will do that to you. I watched this bout on TV, but I actually had it 4-1 for Izzy at first. So much so, I didn't even bother with the decision. Then I witnessed the controversy online and decided to watch the fight again (in better state of mind) the fight again and my opinion drastically changed for the better. Rob's performance: with his improved striking, I was expecting much better performance (especially after the Gastelum bout) from Rob. However, the strategy he employed didn't incite confidence in me (proven by the knockdown) and Rob (given he's demeanour on the stool after the first round). Emotions: the emotional toll that emerged from a lackluster performance in the first and early portion of the second waned my confidence so much that I undermine Rob's performance in the remaining rounds. Bisping: while I was (thanks to the above mentions) swayed by the commentary, I was cognizant enough to recognise the dick riding in the boot (particularly from Bisping). This is one of the reasons I watch any fight at least twice. Rob 2, 4, 5.

@thehighlight8625

2 жыл бұрын

@@daviz088 perfectly said actually on everything, I think I saw success when rob was aggressive but sometimes he would wait a little too often which gave the idea he didn’t have confidence to press forward or he’d been caught by something that made him hesistant, it’s literally one of those 2-2 fights and the round that was close could’ve gone either way, and yeah bisping is often biased, like the Holloway volk 2 fight he’s there acting like it was a one sided fight and even in the 5th I believe he said ‘nice combination, let’s go max’ really shows that he’s backing one horse

Thank you for this, I didn’t fully understand ufc judging so seeing a full breakdown helped

Awesome breakdown a shame Robert will never get the credit he deserves for that perforance. What really saddens me is that listening to the commentry live they made it seem like a one sided beatdown despite the razer thin rounds.

@zaheerunteathered4224

2 жыл бұрын

From what i saw they were actualy pretty chill saying ot was very close not sure what you heard

@tankandtakeo387

2 жыл бұрын

@@zaheerunteathered4224 nah I’m not sure what you heard, did you not hear anything bisping was saying?

@goodfellas1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@zaheerunteathered4224 Izzy feints Bisping: OOOHHHHH he's hurt he's hurt

@honkfunkle8132

2 жыл бұрын

@@zaheerunteathered4224 Bisping literally seemed to be more impressed with Issys faints than Whittakers clean Jabs. Also constantly mentioning that Rob was " a little behind'

@TheZellaCatalyst

2 жыл бұрын

Wasnt as bad as in the Jan fight. But was pretty bad.

Listening to post fight shows UFC and otherwise, they all keep bringing up "octagon control" or "aggression" or "controlling pace" they don't talk about DAMAGE and that is what the rules state. It's maddening!

@andimari9194

2 жыл бұрын

Octagon control is their fallback excuse when they know there’s something controversial. Aggression and octagon control should be looked at as the literal LAST thing for earning points

@kennethnoisewater4423

2 жыл бұрын

but how do you quantify that damage? surely the effect it has on the fighter... Whittaker looked sore and Izzy kept pushing him back all fight.

@jonero2534

2 жыл бұрын

@@kennethnoisewater4423 Immediate impact trumps cummulative impact

@kennethnoisewater4423

2 жыл бұрын

​@@jonero2534 you'll have a hard time convincing me that the 'immediate impact' of Whittaker's best jabs were equal to that of Izzy's best kicks. but I'm speaking more to how the judges perceive and score the action. they probably don't have the best view and if at the end of the round when you decide who won it you see the kicks have left visible impact marks then I can understand how they could've felt that Rob didn't do enough in the rounds Izzy won. it's not like the fighters have seismometers attached to them. add that to the fact that Izzy wasn't deterred by almost any of Rob's attacks, which is another way you could measure 'impact'.

@HenryLune

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to consider damage, take a look at Robs face after the fight compared to Izzy’s.

You are just the best at breaking down these fights bro! Love watching these vids. I am always waiting for these vids after every event! I totally agree with the assessment here too! I thought that Whittaker won the fight watching it live but I knew it was very close. I think you broke the fight down just perfectly and the judges did get it wrong in the end but the fight was so close that they can't be blamed for a "robbery" this time just like you said. It is alot harder judging these close fights in real time in the moment and alot of the times I find that only in these breakdown videos do we all find out exactly if it was the right call or not so thx again for the terrific breakdown bud

BOBBY KNUCKLES IS COMING FOR HIS BELT

I honestly thought Rob won rounds 2 and 4 and 5 was really close. I don’t know what Bisping was on about dude needs to hop off Adesanyas nuts and commentate the fight. Also I think you should add a takedown counter below heavy strikes. Since takedowns are worth more than significant strikes.

@nf1

2 жыл бұрын

I agree rob won, but there is zero chance Rob won the first round. He literally got dropped in the first

@DasFlippityFlop

2 жыл бұрын

@breadstickzzzzzzz nah you’re insane. Izzy’s head was getting bounced back with every jab Rob fell once early falling off balance. And got many takedowns. I thought Adesanya won but you need to hop off his bawles dude.

@DasFlippityFlop

2 жыл бұрын

@@nf1 yeah my bad I meant 2

@austin3789

2 жыл бұрын

1? Do you mean 2? Whitaker got dropped in round 1

@bigschlong5697

2 жыл бұрын

@@DasFlippityFlop R5 is like, the most obvious Robert round tbh. I was baffled when people thought 4 was Izzy like he didn't get taken down, have his back taken and a RNC attempt that seemed to be in (striking being more of the same with Rob jabbing his face off and Izzy missing most his shots).

It’s so crazy how you post videos so detailed and so consistently like it’s nothing! The amount of work that goes in to being as consistent as you’ve been and actually dissecting everything frame by frame and analyzing each engagement is insane brutha! Keep it up and I can’t wait to see what the future holds for you. I still think Izzy won, it’s a lot closer then it first appeared when I watch your breakdown. But Robert did his thing, I feel like Izzy was getting hit way to easily and way more frequently then he usually does, and with the basic shots from Rob. It was frustrating me how repetitive Izzy was being and rob was timing Izzy’s jab and somehow connecting harder on Izzy, then Izzy was connecting on him even with Izzy’s reach advantage.

@AJ-pc9gu

2 жыл бұрын

the jab thing was happening in the first fight as well, as in whittaker winning the jab exchanges, if you go back and watch.

@jimberry5318

2 жыл бұрын

I scored it for izzy 3-2 but I didn't realize he got hit so much in this fight......he actually got hit alot more than I thought when I saw the Romero fight for the second time.

@TheWeasleMMA

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much man, I just try to make good content to help educate as well entertain 🙏

@quincyjackson7855

2 жыл бұрын

It was a close fight. I definitely dont think it was a robbery. This video actually proves how close it was. I also don't think it was some 50-45 performance like a lot of Izzy fans seem to be screaming. Like, they are becoming about as insufferable as Conor disciples.

@KM-ts6co

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWeasleMMA hey aren't you the guy from my HS history class? Phil Weaselton

I personally think Whitaker won.

Does anyone believe that Champs usually get the W in razor-close title fights? This fight, Holloway v Volk II, GSP vs Hendricks, etc.

@jirisseveredponytail143

2 жыл бұрын

Colby Usman 2….

@boxinggamingpro2323

2 жыл бұрын

@@jirisseveredponytail143 that wasn't that close to be honest Usman won round 1,2 and won round 3 but that was a little closer

@tristenvarney8777

2 жыл бұрын

@@boxinggamingpro2323 Weasle actually has a video of that Usman Colby 2 fight, you should check it out, might change your mind on that

@boxinggamingpro2323

2 жыл бұрын

@@tristenvarney8777 yeah I watched that video it was quite a close fight but I think Usman outlanded him and also dropped him 2 times this gave him an edge

@boxinggamingpro2323

2 жыл бұрын

@@tristenvarney8777 but for sure Colby won if Usman didn't have those 2 knockdowns

Spot on as always Weasel. I had Whittaker 100% 48-47. So close but it should of gone to Rob

@omar619kamis

2 жыл бұрын

izzy did more damage and stuffed the takedowns ehittiker didnt do enough

@luckylmn

2 жыл бұрын

@@omar619kamis did u not watch the breakdown??? Based on the judging criteria Whittaker won. What do u mean by “Whittaker didn’t do enough?” The striking exchanges were dead even but Rob showcased he could grapple (submission attempt and multiple takedowns). Ultimately Robert won but due to championship favouring, Adesanaya retained the title. Hypothetically if the roles were reversed and Rob was the champ this would’ve been a clear defence on his behalf. Whittaker’s jabs did more effective damage than Izzy’s leg kicks which is quite evident through the expressions made by both fighters as a result of absorbing the strikes.

@omar619kamis

2 жыл бұрын

@@luckylmn I watched the video and still believe he didn't do enough, izzy had him running for 5 rounds straight, based on damage izzy won the fight. he dropped him chopped his legs up, hell izzy face literally look like he just woke up. the grappling exchanges, whittiker didn't do much with it besides that RNC , other than that izzy stuffed every other one or were able to bounce right back up. honestly good thing he lost the fight . it would be very stupid if he won

@MMARSUPIAL

2 жыл бұрын

@@omar619kamis You seem like the kinda guy that pisses sitting down

@wilcoxbrown275

2 жыл бұрын

@@MMARSUPIAL and u seem like d kind guy that TKO is d only way you’ll accept defeat like the first fight

I really think people overuse the term "robbery" or flat out use it wrong. A close/split decision is not a robbery. When someone clearly and OBVIOUSLY won but is denied is a robbery. Close fights and contests are NOT robberies

@fuzz7981

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. But try telling that to the Max Holloway fanboys.

@loudmein6591

2 жыл бұрын

Nah robbery just means something was stolen. You see robbery as very bad but that’s just how you see it. So if he should have won and don’t then it’s a robbery

@chillinwithchris1536

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like an MMA robbery is almost always a closer decision than a boxing robbery for instance.

@Benji-jj2bg

2 жыл бұрын

@Loud Mein Yes if someone CLEARLY won than its a robbery. If its so close it could go either way it is not. Personally by how the judging standards are i see Izzy winning. Whitaker only accomplished 1 takedown attempt that kinda of accomplished an ALMOST choke.. No other takedown did anything other than accomplish him to get manhandled back up. Whitaker was limping on one foot. Had a beat and bruised stomach and a messes up face. Damage and strikes is the main thing that trumps all else when judging and Izzy did far more damage and strikes.

@Benji-jj2bg

2 жыл бұрын

@Loud Mein on top of all that Izzy had a knock down. And Whitaker did 2 eye pokes which should have deducted points.

Based on the reactions about the commentary, I'm glad I watched this fight on my phone without audio since I was out at that time. I have a much different take on what I saw vs what Bisping was apparently saying. Thanks for the breakdown to really show what happened in this ridiculously technical fight.

@Byronic19134

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, I thought it was a good technical fight and Whittaker simply didn't do enough and Izzy looked too comfy and in control. U gotta ko Izzy or ragdoll him like Jan to win.

@kevinfok4124

2 жыл бұрын

What site were you streaming on?

I didn’t realize how subjective heavy, medium, or light shots were until I watched this video. Great work, I just disagree with the amount of damage you think some of these strikes did.

@pafightclub7993

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely I was thinking the same thing also ... Talkin about how the strikes have to be 100% even before you look at other criteria ... That is impossible since no two punches are alike lol ... It's all martial ART ... SUBJECTIVE

@jadonsmith3224

2 жыл бұрын

For sure. Especially when it came to Izzy's kicks. Weasel would say, "this kick nearly spun Rob around." *Rates it as a medium* I also think some of those strikes that "snapped Izzy's head back" weren't as powerful as people might think. It often looked like Izzy was rolling with the punches.

@niallfinan

2 жыл бұрын

@@jadonsmith3224 true

@travisc1367

2 жыл бұрын

@@jadonsmith3224 Bingo

@suhdud6573

2 жыл бұрын

regardless the grappling is what awarded Whittaker the round

It's ridiculous that the judges are forced to decide fighters' fates based on imperceptible and incalculable differences in cumulative damage. They need to be able to declare draws more easily, or send championship fights into an overtime round-something!

@Captain_Insano_nomercy

2 жыл бұрын

I am a huge supporter of draws but the scoring system is literally built to deter draws. They don't want them for whatever reason

@FeralWorker

2 жыл бұрын

@@Captain_Insano_nomercy indeed, it'd be a matter of reforming them at some point. But as above if it's important that draws be as minimised as they are now, they introduce overtime rounds, another layer of incentive to finish. Or as Weasel's discussed they could have open scoring. Get rid of it change the 10 must system. As an evolving sport rule reviews and reform opportunities should be scheduled for every 5 years or something.

@FeralWorker

2 жыл бұрын

@DireGoth Gaming I agree the result is the fighter's responsibility. I thought it was terrible form of Rob to settle for edging-out Izzy on the scorecards. That approach is only "intelligent" if you actually win.

@anthonygarcia4153

2 жыл бұрын

@DireGoth Gaming wrestling doesnt win you the round alone, if izzy beat up rob and rob got those tds they dont matter, but these rounds were extremely close and he makes a statement by taking izzy down, damage or not it makes a difference when the fight is even

@GoodStuff1992

2 жыл бұрын

Weasel completely ignorea the Texas licensing and regulation scoring rules. Texas has used older rules and he should have known this. He completely ignores fight area control and effective aggressiveness and defense

2 4 5 Robert for me but I can see it go either way, Never leave it to the judges.

@enigma372

2 жыл бұрын

Whittaker ain’t win 2 imo. That’s too far, having a better more Competitive round doesn’t mean u won that said round

@divineoverhand5307

2 жыл бұрын

@@enigma372 how tf what you said makes any sense

@Nimtrix

2 жыл бұрын

@@divineoverhand5307 Might be your reading comprehension

@callanharvey6264

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nimtrix dude literally said 'having a better round doesn't mean you won the round" how tf does that make any sense lmao

@blackprimeminister

2 жыл бұрын

@@divineoverhand5307 A guy pedalling backwards for most of the fight does not win on the cards to a dominant champion. It's simple.

Wow. Thank for an incredible break down again Weasle! When I first watched it I thought the fight was clearly in Adesanyas favour, but you proved that going by the judging rules I was wrong. I always learn a lot from your videos and it makes the sport deeper and more enjoyable. Thank you!

@dylan104

2 жыл бұрын

You weren't wrong, Izzy won the fight. Weasle has some good insights but he's certainly not the end all be all. I haven't seen any pro fighter say that Rob won the fight. Even Cejudo (as cringe as he can be) said anyone who thinks Rob won is delusional and the grappling meant nothing because nothing happened with it. That left hook from Rob in the second round being a "heavy" strike is extremely subjective. People like to say Izzy did nothing to win the fight then go on to say Whittaker won by throwing some jabs the whole fight. I love Whittaker, but he clearly lost.

Good stuff love these! 🙌🏾👏🏾

I don't mind Izzy winning, but yeash his fans yesterday calling it a complete washout was so annoying, just regurgitating bispings useless commentary.

@PaulWallification

2 жыл бұрын

It was NOT a dominant victory if Izzy won. Anyone watching the fight should be able to see that…

@qarcon3247

2 жыл бұрын

ive haven't seen people say that. i've seen a lotta people saying Rob got robbed

@bobbob-cd9yl

2 жыл бұрын

yep it's so sad seeing MMA filled with people that have to only speak with hyperbole these days

@clarkdark2906

2 жыл бұрын

I had Rob 2, 3 and 5 the first time I watched it and now I have it 4-1 Rob

@PaulWallification

2 жыл бұрын

@mma warlord You need to read and reread and reread and then read again comments on KZread before replying. You’re welcome. Ready, set, GO!

Maybe I was influenced by the commentary more than I thought, because I thought Izzy won handily at the time. This was interesting.

@christian_urocar

2 жыл бұрын

well they did a good job at commentating cuz you paid more attention to what they said than what fighters were actually doing.

Thanks for spending the time to create this content. Great breakdown

Excellent breakdown as always. For Whittaker, the way I could have seen him clearly beating Adesanya is for him to be able to check those leg kicks, that was a huge advantage for Izzy. Also, Robert was able to take Izzy down this time but had he been able to keep him down and use some effective grappling, he would have been able to win. In a rematch of course he can always hope they find a way to catch Adesanya using PED's, than he'd win for sure.

Totally agree Weasle, the commentators totally skewed this against Rob, they were saying it wasn't really close, there was no doubt. The scoring criteria is there for a reason, and it is not ambiguous, so I am glad you apply it so fastidiously to the breakdowns. Your analysis is a constant reference for so many fan disagreements at the pub, I call it evidence when I protest sh!t decisions. Thanks for the splendid work.

@Dongchalk

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Bisping was annoying af

@MrMancreatedgod

2 жыл бұрын

Except you completely ignore the bias. Weasel has his own when he claims light, medium, heavy shots. It doesn't come into play as much in this fight. It does in many of his "breakdowns". They're hardly definitive. Personally I think they're trash.

@TheWeasleMMA

2 жыл бұрын

The commentating was on point for this one. When they were saying Whittaker lost every round besides the 5th, I was confused.

@adisakorij4528

2 жыл бұрын

i watched it in another language, a totally different fight then what most watched with english commentators. Witticker won that

@evanodum563

2 жыл бұрын

Fastidiously? Dude where been my whole KZread comment reading life?

If 4 takedowns against a guy with superb TDD doesn't count because he didn't 'do anything with it'. Then leg kicks shouldn't count unless they actually impair movement.

*I had Whittaker winning 48-47 CLEARLY.* Izzy did not have a dominant performance at any capacity.

@nrgmma4543

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Whittaker won 48-47 too but it wasn’t clearly I can see where Izzy won but I think Rob did just enough to win

"for myself" Rob did enough to win, Israel did not. But it could have been a draw or a split win for izzy. However, I'm more terrified of bisping and DC commentating on future fights as much as the current judges. Bisping and DC proved again how much biased unprofessional sticks they really are.

@pacodibolo

2 жыл бұрын

Getting blind Bisping and clueless Cormier to commentate a fight is Dana's way of trying to bias the judges vs the challenger.

@xdizzle13

2 жыл бұрын

The judges do not have ufc head phones. They judge in the fight as they see it from their perspective. They saw Israel winning over Robert. It is what it is.

@lucidape

2 жыл бұрын

@@xdizzle13 I nowhere said that the judges were listening to or were influenced by the commentators. MMA Judges being no. 1 bullshits are different things. Im just sad that the commentators are biased af.

@shahk6051

2 жыл бұрын

Bisping yes, but dc was okay, maybe I’m going crazy but I remember him was saying it was close and he didn’t know who won

whittaker definitely came in with a smarter game plan and effectively adapted throughout the fight, if he made a bit more adjustments he could potentially win the next fight

@homework9102

2 жыл бұрын

wdym he already won according to the rules lmfao

@Zolo00

2 жыл бұрын

@@homework9102 oh cool story 0-2. I’m sure you reaper fans will hand him his belt made of your tears lolololol keep grasping

@divineoverhand5307

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zolo00 huh ? lmao chill pal, rob won objectively. 3 retarded old judges opinions is not more valuable than the alternative ufc medias general opinion. Every non ufc staff or guys who doesn't know Israel and doesn't have a relationship with isreal says rob won, from Mexican martial arts, to weasle, to MMA guru

@uchenna127

2 жыл бұрын

@@divineoverhand5307 Okay, he won, you happy now? Just look at the official fight stats, it's on the UFC website.

@rclxastro

2 жыл бұрын

@@divineoverhand5307 true, but you can’t blame the judges. watching it in real time is a lot more difficult the dissecting every strike post fight, imo i thought izzy won but after watching the breakdown, it was close but rob won according to the rules

Great break down man...Im using your videos to increase my kids fight IQ. ...thanks man keep up the good work!!! See u at the 1mil mark.

I think you did a pretty good job scoring, but in the 4th round you said Whittaker landed a “solid uppercut” and marked it light. Kinda strange, as anything other than a jab is considered a power strike.

You gave Whittaker a fair share unlike bisping who was extremely bias

@aremayo9262

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Bisping is watching the fight with 1 eye, so he has an excuse for seeing it wrong

@honkfunkle8132

2 жыл бұрын

"Whittaker needs to throw that right hand" meanwhile Whittaker landing almost every left hand he threw

@homework9102

2 жыл бұрын

@@aremayo9262 and he supposedly has no brain cells

@aremayo9262

2 жыл бұрын

@@homework9102 thanks to Hendo ;)

Was waiting for this! Ty 🙌🏾👏🏾

We need breakdowns like this just as the rounds end to do away with shitty judging. Then if the fight goes the distance, it'll just take a little longer while the final round is sorted out.

@TechTesting

2 жыл бұрын

well 1st round was by far most dmging and should chould be 10-8 round cuz robert was saved by the bell other rounds he didnt take octagon control (which Izzy basicly controlled 4 out of 5 rounds) into judging, plus dmg on some strikes werent light but anyways nice breakdown anyways just saying different ppl, judges will always see each strike different from other judge in terms of how much dmg it did plus robert looked way more damaged then adesanya which counts aswell

crazy to think it was referee Mike Beltran who served as the judge that gave that 5th round to Izzy. Like, we know that guy! He's not some official who probably is used to only judging boxing matches or doesn't understand the nuances of MMA, so WTF happened there?!? Wild to me that not enough people are pointing that out.

@kintarooe8688

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a phantom prewritten score card and Mike Beltran was paid off by the UFC. The commentary were also paid off to be biased as possible. 49-46?! And look at the rounds the judges scored, they’re all inconsistently different, as if they didn’t even watch the fight.

@samgibson684

2 жыл бұрын

We already know it's rigged because ... Lesnar, McGregor, Jones, McChicken, Dana white......

@bassesatta9235

2 жыл бұрын

@@kintarooe8688 it’s because the rounds were close so anyone would have given any round to one of the fighters. its not that deep

@kintarooe8688

2 жыл бұрын

@@bassesatta9235 it is that deep. How is there no consistency in the judging criteria? Why is there always a phantom 49-46 for the more marketable fighter? Rose, Usman, Ngannou? How was Roxi-ONeil split dec??!! Our sport is becoming a joke.

@G1stGBless

2 жыл бұрын

@@kintarooe8688 dana white always rags on how “bad” or “corrupt” boxing has become. Never acknowledging its the same dirty Vegas COMMISIONS now ruling his sport. Every1 always excuses and rationalizes their own sin when its plain as day to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Weasle this is one of the best content series in all of combat sports history, SERIOUSLY. With the nature of combat sports being so hard to judge, using the ability to review every single detail of a fight is one of the most objective tools we have. Of course there's still room for debate on rounds such as round 2 (i scored it whittaker imho), but it makes all these debates based on actual points and not just fan rambling. Thank you for your knowledge and effort

@lovelylemonfactory

2 жыл бұрын

They're not "actual points" though The Weasle has invented a scoring system that is not accurate. There is a reason he always has a different result to the judges and always has a different result than Big John(you know the guy who made the rules). It's cause his interpretation of what a heavy shot is, is wrong. His videos are literally just a fan rambling and his interpretation of the rules is impossible to enforce because of how subjective they are. A "heavy" shot is judged by how the opponent reacts to it not how hard The Weasle thinks it was. Izzy walks through the "heavy" shot in the second round and therefore it's not scored any differently to the rest of the strikes in the round. There is no light, medium, heavy strike counting in MMA judging. That's make believe The Weasle somehow managed to say that Francis lost the 5th round in against Gane while having 3 minutes of control and 1 strike less. He now says Whitaker won the 2nd round while having no control from the takedown AKA not effective grappling and 4 shots less. He's inconsistent in his analysis and somehow manages to be wrong 90% of the time.

TheWeasle loving ur work🔥 Can I suggest you match the commentary to the marking. E.g. you say 'big strike' and then mark it as a light. Would really help tie them together so what we hear is what we see. Cheers bro keep up the great work👊🏽😊

Great breakdown. As always good content from TheWeasle

This narrative that you have to take the fight to the champ is such a lazy way for Izzy to justify the fact that he isn't an active fighter unless its counter striking

@TheOmegawop

2 жыл бұрын

Except Izzy KO'd the champ to take the belt, so . . .

@sebastianfallman9876

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOmegawop "unless it's counterstriking" Learn to read lol. Izzy wasn't very active in their first fight either but Rob was to aggresive against a counter striker. That's why we tend to see fights like Romero v Izzy. One is very good at countering and the other guy knows that and so he doesn't throw as much, that's where you'd hope that Izzy came forward but he usually doesn't which leads to slow fights. IMO not boring fights but definitely slow

@whiteflame24

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOmegawop Are you illiterate?

While watching I had rob winning 2, 4, and 5. He was landing jabs effectively and scoring takedowns. Meanwhile most of izzys offense after the first round were leg kicks

@brandonamezquita4501

2 жыл бұрын

Someone could throw a hadouken at Israel and people will still say his leg kicks mattered more.

@kyleelpel9402

2 жыл бұрын

He looked really good while throwing those kicks though

@nf1

2 жыл бұрын

And to be clear I'm not saying leg kicks don't score, I just personally think clean strikes to the head should count for much much more than them.

@uchenna127

2 жыл бұрын

@@nf1 Why?

@ibirinde99

2 жыл бұрын

@@nf1 rob was landing jabs he rarely through the right hand and was walking around the octagon fighting in moments taking breaks I don’t really see how he could have won more than 2 rnds tbh even those takedowns came to nothing

Cormier was definitely trying to talk Bisping down from his insanely confident declarations that Izzy was easily winning. A few times he said "I think it's very close... very close fight."

Nice break down. Top work!

Yea, i had Whittaker tied 2 rounds to 2 going into the 5th, & felt like he did enough to get the W. I usually like Bisping's commentary, but i gotta say, his complete dismissal of Whittaker's chances of winning a single round, much-less a decision, despite even Cormier's attempts to give Rob proper credit for keeping the fight razor close was extremely annoying.

@OPTSXFilosoofis

2 жыл бұрын

Bisping really fucked up this time. Cormier was more cautious since he already messed up with Izzy vs jan before

@itsreason3238

2 жыл бұрын

how do you have whitaker when it was tied 2 rounds to 2?

@OPTSXFilosoofis

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsreason3238 he probably meant 2-2 going into the 5th where Whittaker won that round

I had it 3-2 for Rob. Was a boring fight though. Izzy was afraid to do anything because of the takedowns, and Rob was afraid of the right hand.

@shaquilleghans4351

2 жыл бұрын

How was he afraid when he was the one walking rob down rob was afraid to throw which is why he only use jabs the whole fight y’all just be making up stuff

@Ms.Fowlbwahhh

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaquilleghans4351 walked him down and did nothing. Just feint feint feint, leg kick. Feint feint feint feint leg kick.

@Ms.Fowlbwahhh

2 жыл бұрын

@Darren Reddix I wonder why he Izzy stopped throwing kicks above the legs? Because he got his ass taken down lol.

@callanharvey6264

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ms.Fowlbwahhh somehow no one understands that walking down someone just to feint in there face isn't proper aggression or xage control lol

@sebastianfallman9876

2 жыл бұрын

@@callanharvey6264 Also weird how they don't seem to acknowledge the fact that Izzy doesn't throw first, ever. If his opponents don't throw he doesn't yet it's always the opponents fault for a boring fight cause they didn't play right into Izzy's hand to let him counter.

Bro your detail is incredible keep up the good work

It would be nice for the UFC to have a final reviewing process to keep the judges from judging fights incorrectly. They can start by listening to "The Weasle"! Great job, as always.

Definitely a lot closer than it looks. Reminds me of Usman versus Covington. I still think Covington lost but it was a lot closer with the breakdown. Great video and analysis. You're insight definitely helps the community as a whole.

@taybazza6528

2 жыл бұрын

I think covington 2 was a draw colby won round 3,4,5

@G1stGBless

2 жыл бұрын

If you are talking about Whit vs Izzy it looked super close to anyone paying more attention to the fight than the sorry announcers. I was in a chicken wing place and didnt really hear the announcers in real time. I had Rob up 48-47, 2,4,5 for mostly the same reasons (tho not as detailed) as weasel. It was a very close fight but to me that wasn’t difficult to see and it doesn’t imply Rob lost. He won a close fight. Good fight, bad results.

@taybazza6528

2 жыл бұрын

@@G1stGBless i also had it rob 48-47 round 2 was legit a even round and can score either way so I see where ppl ppl have Izzy

Bobby did enough, you might say he won by the smallest difference possible, but seeing the judges scoring was awful. Robert won by a split decision at least, but the judges saw a unanimous decision for Izzy, bruh judges are definitely way too tired by the time the main event comes around. If we are swapping refs every fight, there is an argument to be said for having more Judges don't ain't?

@SuperPhasan

2 жыл бұрын

Let's be real. What's fatigue got to do with it. Lol. I mean its definitely plausible but more then likely in this case not causal. Star power can bias a fan let alone a Judge! Even if we were able to dispell possible monetary factors; it will be hard to get rid of inherent human bias. Unless we have something set up like Artificial intelligence to judge the fights and even then it could be hacked. Unless we can have the AI done independently through display screens and sent to a central server.

@steel2572

2 жыл бұрын

They do swap the judges around

@Generative_Midi_

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mrs Whittaker for coming on here with your balanced opinion.

this video is the best display of unintentional comedy I have ever seen

@theweasel what is your background in martial arts? Subbed

Thank you weasel, I watched this fight live and knew rob won based on the judging criteria. So many think Izzy won because of the atrocious commentary of the fight.

@Generative_Midi_

2 жыл бұрын

How many points for takedowns genius?

@caspar_gomez

2 жыл бұрын

@@Generative_Midi_ just slightly more than the leg kicks izzy landed

This and Chael's take are the most eagerly anticipated outcomes next to the actual fight, well done Weasle.

@honkfunkle8132

2 жыл бұрын

Both Weasle and Chael had Whittaker winning soooo

@baalrog666

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Chael and Anthony Smith said on espn that they thought Whitaker had it.

@carrenpalmer3453

2 жыл бұрын

@@baalrog666 so did Mortal Kombat's Brian Campbell, and Rashad Evans, they were interviewed on CBS Sports HQ

@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi

2 жыл бұрын

@@honkfunkle8132 because he won the fight.

@honkfunkle8132

2 жыл бұрын

@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 100% he won the fight

mad how it takes a breakdown for people to realise what they should be seeing in real time, but at least someone's making them

I was thinking about how to weigh the a number of light strikes vs 1 heavy or medium strikes and it occurred to me: which would I rather get hit by? I'd take 20 light blows before 1 heavy probably. 8-10 light strikes before a medium one. The judging criteria: immediate impact trumps cumulative damage feels better when I think about it this way.

Adesanya has been pretty dismissive of the idea Whitaker beat him this fight, saying he was crazy like vittori or drinking like costa. What are your thoughts on Israel not acknowledging how close the fight was?

@chrisk9613

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't much separating either guy in this fight.

@ahmedabe

2 жыл бұрын

Lol here’s the reality izzy has no wrestling and that will b his downfall at 185 can’t imagine how fast Khamzat would submit him

@thenotoriousm0e852

2 жыл бұрын

Tbf being in there can scew your view on the fight heavily. I would hope that he is level headed enough to rewatchand acknowledge that it was nothing near the Vettori fight

@caspar_gomez

2 жыл бұрын

I genuinely think he believes that, it's why he fights that way. He's got a woodley mentality

Great breakdown. Whittaker should've won. Terrible commentating by the ufc crew by the way. They missed all of these great points you've made. I get it's live and they can't catch it all, but you'd think as top tier professionals they'd at least get some of the calls right

@nf1

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to pop a blood vessle listening to bisping's handicaped commentary

@katana_3558

2 жыл бұрын

@@nf1 he sucks man

Spot on video as always my dude....... like you are the most unbiased, no bullshit, straight fact spittin, Channel....... even more than the billion dollar company (ESPN)... that is supposed to be the end all for sports. And with jst your bloody awsome KZread channel get it rite way more than those Azzhats. Even when I don't like the fighterwho won facts are facts, and fair is fair. Thanx again dude

Man finally someone objective. Izzy has a fan base that doesnt allow not even the conversation. Is like a cult. 🤣🤣

I can imagine how hard it is to score a fight in real time, let alone a close one like this one. It really could have gone either way and if Max Holloway is getting a potential 3rd fight against Volko, Whittaker for sure deserves another crack at Adesanya.

@nyphon

2 жыл бұрын

This is what I think most people don't understand, unless they are tallying each shot in real time and guesstimating impact on the spot, there's no way they are seeing these few strike differences in real time and truly objectionably scoring fights correctly on the spot.

@PUMA4LIFE101

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO, got slept once, lost second. 2-0 down pointless trilogy. Unless Robbie wants to lose 3-0.

@yoteca

2 жыл бұрын

@@PUMA4LIFE101 I don't see him beating Izzy, but he is clearly the second best in the division and everyone else is far behind those two.

All I gotta say is if Izzy had the exact same performance as rob. He would have still won

@sugarkain2291

2 жыл бұрын

Dude yes, and suddenly leg kicks wouldn't mean shit and takedowns would be huge.

@jonny5738

2 жыл бұрын

@@sugarkain2291 EXACTLY

@DC-bp8sx

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, what Michael Chandler said was spot on, the champ just has to scrape by a decision and they get handed their belt

@nk-sw2kd

2 жыл бұрын

spittin

@lupinder2058

2 жыл бұрын

Not just that. İ swear they would say it was dominant performance by israel. They would say he was snaping his head with Jabs, he danced around him dodged nearly all big strikes and he got 4 takedowns. Couple leg kicks by Robert is not enough etc..

Great breakdown! Thanks as always.

Good job brother! 👌🏼 I was even thinking if Whittaker was the title holder maybe he would have gotten the decision because generally in a pretty closely even title fight the champion retains if they were not dominated

I think Rob nearly beat him with a jab. The UFC striking stats are always wacky af. I genuinely remember about 3 punches landing for Adesanya. Rob jabbed him a lot and Adesanya kicked him a lot. Not enough for taking the belt away but Adesanya was not impressive to me. He nearly lost to a jab. It'll be weird to see him deal with Strickland's output. I think a draw should have been put outm

@justinkennedy3004

2 жыл бұрын

About Adesanya's output, same for me. I saw the sig strikes graphic and tf'd. Dunno.

@captaindeadpool2655

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinkennedy3004 Yeh. They're always pretty dreadful. People don't know what a significant strike is anymore

@holdentudix3622

2 жыл бұрын

@@captaindeadpool2655 facts, every single leg kick no matter how light counts as significant, and holds the same weight as a heavy damaging shot under the 'significant strike category'

@davestuddaman8127

2 жыл бұрын

@@holdentudix3622 so do takedowns

@captaindeadpool2655

2 жыл бұрын

@@holdentudix3622 I know. So stupid. Now Izzy's ones aren't too light but I know what you mean.

I had it 2, 4, 5 Whittaker when I watched it live but I was unsure so I watched it again the next day with a clear mind and still got the same score. Not a robbery but this definitely warrants a third fight. Just one good win from Whittaker and it's on.

@Zygz111

2 жыл бұрын

I was sort of on the same boat. I gave only 4 & 5 watching it live to whittaker. But after rewatching it, it was clear that Rob won 2,4 & 5. There's soo many izzy dick riders saying otherwise without actually backing up their claims.

Ive been waiting for this video since the fight ended

“I would not score it that way, but the judging criteria says Whittaker.” What???

Appreciate your objective and very thorough breakdown even if the result contradicted your own pre-fight prediction. Keep up the great work! UFC should hire you as a commentator representing the fight fans!

Brilliant breakdown. Yeah although I do think Izzy probably “did enough” to get the W, I definitely wholeheartedly think the commentary was leaning way too hard on him. I agree that you have to go and take the belt to be a decisive champ like Izzy always says, but like.. there’s scoring for a reason, and this fight is that exact reason. So damn close. Was hoping Rob would bring it home and I’m even happier after seeing this breakdown that my own analysis while watching the fight wasn’t just countrymen bias 😂

@GoodStuff1992

2 жыл бұрын

Its not brilliant. The weasel ignored the texas mma scoring criteria. If you look up the mma scoring criteria on the texas licensing and regulation website, it list fight area control and effective aggressiveness and defense. Weasel took none of that in consideration

@VarsityAthlete04

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodStuff1992 nobody cares

@ruopfunakhro6890

2 жыл бұрын

Lol the shadows in 0:13 seconds of the the video is from Conor mcgregor vs Dustin poirier 2. Nowadays Conor just a joke. UFC post a video of Conor losing like every week lmao 😂

@GoodStuff1992

2 жыл бұрын

@@VarsityAthlete04 just making him honest man

@drdankmemes4827

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruopfunakhro6890 yea I thought that looked like conor

Robbert the only middleweight contender who can beat Adesanya by far!

Adesanya is the reverse of Nate Diaz. Nate leans forward, Adesanya leans back.

I miss the old Izzy. Back when he was a contender and fought with intention of hurting opponents rather than just winning.

@brandonamezquita4501

2 жыл бұрын

The reverse Usman.

@Dom-bn1ru

2 жыл бұрын

come on u need to give some credit to Rob. It was not an easy fight for Izzy at all, its not like he had a choice to "just winning" or hurting rob

@ironsheik8047

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dom-bn1ru I don’t think he is being disrespectful to Rob I think he is saying Izzy is content with point sparring instead of really pushing for KOs

@Emmanny

2 жыл бұрын

Like @Dom said shout to rob but remember izzy is not strike first fighter. Hes a counter puncher. Rob was staying on the outside mostly, not throwing many combos, being patient. Is thrives off opponents offense and when they arent really risking throwing then hes not as deadly.

@sallgoodman2323

2 жыл бұрын

@@Emmanny Real deadly.