Biggs footwork was 10/10 that day

In this match BIGGS fights like Mohamed Ali.

@111CREWGO69ZEHZ

Жыл бұрын

He is. Very observant. Maybe be a forward observer.

Nice win for Biggs!

I've been looking for this clip for sometimes. Lennox was still learning his skills but Biggs was the better boxer that night but when they met 7 years later it was a different story

@johnny6610

5 жыл бұрын

Sulayman The Magnificent Biggs was never the same after Tyson iced him

@rickyharris9897

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnny6610 Yeah Tyson and those elbows beat the sh*t out of Biggs

@timmy4312

2 жыл бұрын

He snorted too much then

Tyrell Biggs gave a boxing lesson in Lewis

all i know is, this was a great amateur heavyweight bout!

It is really amazing and strange that when these two guys fight Lewis is always the one who chases the other one to fight like having a dominant right. Also I can see from this match that Lewis already had the power to win the 1984 superheavyweight Olympics gold medal.

When Lewis was winning a meaningless Gold medal in 88, Tyson was busy being undisputed Heavyweight Champ and the baddest man on the planet.

@tlig

5 жыл бұрын

Dude, no Olympic medal is meaningless, let alone a gold one.

@ngouadjiodanielhenrievich5462

5 жыл бұрын

At the same time Tyson was his little brother by age.

@vigorkomar7296

4 жыл бұрын

undisputed fake champ who was disclosed and adequately punished by douglas!

@aleksthegreat4130

4 жыл бұрын

So what?Olympic gold is always a great achievement,and Lewis would dominate the heavyweight for more years.

@johnny6610

3 жыл бұрын

The Kid I won your mom

Its interesting that no one has posted any footage from the joke of a final where Francesco Damiani of Italy wiped the floor with Biggs only for the judges to award the fight to Biggs. Even the crowd, mostly American I assume, were disgusted at the result.

Do you have the match after this semi final it was Biggs vs Salihu yugoslavian ???

People dissmiss Biggs because of the Tyson fight but he has one of the best footwork and strongest chins in boxing history

Aight. Saturday - January 8, 2021.

I'm amazed that Cosell called a Lennox Lewis fight.

Looked good here Biggs. Really nice jab and just looked to have a bit more experience and know how than Lennox.

Tyson would have taken Lewis's awesome power and forced Lewis to run, it would be like the tyrell biggs ending

@tang00001

2 жыл бұрын

Bs, the outcome would’ve been the same prime vs prime.

@robnhood1416

8 ай бұрын

Lewis was clearly not ready for Mike during the 80s. He was losing to someone like Biggs at amateur level while Mike won 10 championship fights during the 80s. No comparison here. Lewis also lost to Ruddock in 80s. It took him longer to reached his peak. Tyson was early bloomer as Lennox said.

Neither Tyson nor Ruddock were ever the same after their two wars. Tyson clearly won both fights but they both took hard shots. Tyson has said that of all of his fights, Ruddock hit the hardest. Not taking anything away from anyone, but styles make fights as well. Whatever any fighter did against another doesn't make them better or worse than any other fighter who may have fought the same dudes. Having said that, I think Lewis was the best of his era.

@madmax8903 hindsight's a wonderful thing. lewis was so outclassed in this fight no one could possibly forecast your vision from this fight in 1984. aggression means nothing if your opponent is making you hit nothing but air or he's rolling and countering all day, beating you to the punch, working so many angles you don't even know where you are, never mind him. biggs became prone to exchanges when he went pro&fought his opponent's fight rather than sticking to a formula that worked.

always thought that biggs did not have the fighting heart that the top fighters had. He was seriously skilled. but...

@tlig

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously skilled?

@rasheedelakhlaqsiz4753

Жыл бұрын

@@tlig Yeah, whatever that means🙄🙄

@CoronaJoe i cant agree with you. The 1986-88 Tyson just had 100% percent confidence in himself. He had Jacobs, Rooney and Lott to put him straight when he felt doubts. Lennox Lewis was actually king of an era when HW's started to become bigger, more out of shape and lazier. Its no coincidence the guy who gave him his hardest "boxing test" an old former heart attack victim in the ring Evander Holyfield was of the same ilk of 80's tyson. small, fast, highoutput. Tyson kos lewis busts him up

Mr. Biggs was a good boxer but when he faced Mr. Tyson(as a pro) he made the mistake of going toe to toe with Mr. Tyson and was KO for it. And after that lose he was never the same. Someone put down that Mr. Holyfield would have won if he were in his prime against a young Mr. Lewis. Mr. Lewis was a true Heavy weight and I think it was Mr. Holyfields boxing knowledge and good chin plus heart that kept him from being KO'd in both pro fights, so I humbly think.

@Thehwchampionotw And Holyfield qualifies as a super heavyweight right?

Why do so many people over rate Mike Tyson so much? I guess it's his very appealing style, and "bad ass" attitude that deludes fans into thinking he was some immortal killing machine. You are aware I'm sure, that Mike was eliminated in the Olympic trials this very year, didn't make the team. He lost 2 decisions to Henry Tillman, looked like crap in both (saw them live on CBS). I was always a big Mike fan, but he would have lost to Lewis in 1984 in the same fashion he lost to him in 2002.

@CoronaJoe That's also a version of Tyson saying that who was loaded up on drugs and had no confidence left. It's interesting even watching Tyson's interview on Charlie Rose where he is played an interview of his youthful self and looks surprised at how confident he was. That's the difference. Same reason why I don't hold Joe Louis's comments about Marciano beating him considering it was a Shell of Louis talking and he had already beat someone somewhat similar in Arturo Godoy...

Biggs and Lennox saw each other again in the ring as pros, the fight was complete different story. Leiggs nnox fucked Biggs up as a pro.

Tyrell added punching while keeping range smoothly. Punching quick mid-range, then using a shoulder to block with a semi-Philly shell Able to punch to the body fast from a counter left to right quick Able to come in with a quick combo, back up, get punches landed on, then return smoothly. I can name more, but I don't have to. Ali clinched a lot,bounced too much, which Joe/karl/Cooper began to be able to read and countered him easily,had hands down low often,used head movement but not the way modern used it, which was head blocking with hands., Its very obvious len would destroy ali

@Thehwchampionotw I stand corrected. Three men, however, the point is still the same. It's obvious that it's the exception, not the rule.

* I can recall moments...

@CoronaJoe It all comes down to what version of Tyson/Lewis you put in there with each other.They were both beatable at any stage if you had right game plan and the tools to carry it off.Anyone who does not understand that is fooled by the "unbeatable" Tyson of 86-88.

Well, of course Mike wasn't the best he could be that night, and all the reasons you mention are valid. That being said, he didn't have the SKILLS needed to adapt, or ever attempt to adapt. All the greats have had mental/ physical issues to deal with, they came through. I can moments in most other all time greats careers, where they showed how great they were..coming from behind, getting up to win, fighting out of their comfort zone, showing true heart and grit..can't say that for Mike.

@ZachTommyGunThompson He is!

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What's the deal with his right hand? Am asking a question. Don't flip out. I have seen some of his other fights.

this is rare footage...

There were great fighters in his era, but he lost to them, by KO. The fighters he beat early in his career were almost all in their late 30's, and had already been handing the belts back and forth. Around the same, Sugar Ray Leanord, Tommy Hearns and Roberto Duran were fighting each other and other fighters..the press dubbed it the "senior tour"..well, these guys were the same age or even younger than the guys Tyson was taking belts from. He dominated early, due to his competition.

Biggs was already addicted to Coke before the Olympics, his whole life has been related to drugs and alcohol probs. He had the talent to take over from Larry Holmes. Shocking that he threw it all away. Lewis was just an 18 yr old kid in this fight. Contrary to what some believe Tyson would not have won a gold medal at the Olympics, the Italian Angelo Musone would have won the gold, he was robbed by the pro US scoring, as was William DeWitt in the final.

Lewis fought outdated briggs, tony trucker, fruno, tyson. If instead of briggs tyson faced lewis in 1980s the result will be the same, only difference will be that there will be 6 rounds instead of 7

he is , but he was getting his training in canada at the time and the only way he could enter the olympics is if he represented canada, so he did

I think being stunned like that should be the same as being knocked down since I've seen fighters get knocked down and not look as hurt with "flash-knockdowns". Tyson is just able to take bigger shots so don't knock him if he doesn't suffer "flash-knockdowns" early. Tyson was also considered a "small" HW in his era given it was the new era of Super-Heavyweights. So he wasn't as lucky as some say with his era.

True

How can you rate someone as being the best ever, based on wins over guys like Pinklon Thomas or Frank Bruno? He never beat a co-great from his era, he never avenged a loss, never came from behind or got up to win. He was a great fighter for sure (I have him #8, watch my video...lol), but he had weaknesses, both physical and mental. He had no idea how to deal with adversity. Anyone rating him higher than 6th, whether based on skills or accomplishments, is over rating him....in my opinion.

Biggs was a junkie by the time he fought Tyson. His career was already over.

Biggs had the first two rounds but Lewis had him on the first half of the third rd but Biggs made it even around the last mark. So I think Biggs deserved the gold

@thelordmemnoch *have won the heavyweight championship. That's what I meant. So two men in a history that spans to the 1800's have won the title past the age of 36. That tells you that 36 is frigging old. That's all I am going to say about that topic.

When Lennox honed his skills, he was one of the best heavyweights ever.

@madmax8903 my point is that there is nothing in this fight that distinguishes lewis as having more potential to compete as a pro than biggs or even possessing particular potential as a pro disregarding the fact that Biggs completely outclassed him via amateur or professional standards. 'aggressive'? where?? biggs completely controlled the fight&the ring. when lewis did attempt to cut the ring or pressure, biggs very easily angled, countered & even backed him up. 1988, i can see it, not here.

How did Lennox Lewis win the Olympic gold medal if he lost in the quarterfinals against Biggs.

@samuelakiwumi2988

2 жыл бұрын

This is 84 he won in 88

Evander was fairly fresh off a loss to Moorer, had comfirmed heart health issues, was actually older than Mike...The ring mag considered Holy to be so shot, they officially predicted a 1st round KO win for Mike. Holy was way more ring worn...he was just that much better. People make the shot excuse, but forget to realize the greats he lost to weren't exactly in their primes either.

which is why tyson was stripped of the WBC for not fighting lewis, WBA asked him to fight Holyfield, WBC asked him to fight Lewis. these are mandatory defenses, he chose Holyfield cause Holyfield was a bigger Draw, so the WBC stripped him for not fighting Lewis. why would he pay Lewis when he is stripped of his belt anyway?? their are laws, and paying someone doesnt get u out of fights, because its not in the fighters hands, its in the belt organizations hand.

@Thehwchampionotw I don't think so. A 36 year old Lennox Lewis loses by knock out to the Ray Mercer he fought years ago. Lewis was pretty much knocked into retirement by Vitali when they fought. Had Lennox been 29 he would not have had a problem with him so I disagree. Granted big heavyweights do mature later than most fighters, due to their reliance on a KO punch which never leaves them, but a 29 year old Lennox beats a 36 year old Lennox any day of the week. Simply put 36 isn't prime at all.

If Mike Tyson had fought Lewis in 87' he would have beat him just as easily as he beat Biggs.

@solidcake3401

4 жыл бұрын

Just cause lewis lost over 3 rounds in the amateurs yeah? News flash dumb dumb this was an Olympic final in an Olympics mike tyson couldn't even qualify for cause he got smashed twice in the qualifiers lol,lennox lewis would've done to "prime tyson" what Douglas did picked him off beat him up and made him quit rolling on the floor looking for his gumshield 😂

@Sorted906

4 жыл бұрын

solid cake Mike Tyson was heavy weight champion of the world, while an older Lewis was preparing for the Olympics. Let that sink in a bit. Watch Joe Eagan’s interview about Lewis Sparring Tyson.

@Sorted906

4 жыл бұрын

solid cake Incidentally, Douglas didn’t fight “prime” Tyson. When people refer to a prime Tyson, they’re referring to when he trained under Rooney. He never tired under Rooney, and was a hella of lot sharper. Not much deliberation needed to acknowledge that

@solidcake3401

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sorted906 you mean when he was boxing bums,light heavyweights an old washed up crackheads? Lol got exposed by Douglas an you fan boys can't handle it

@solidcake3401

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sorted906 an joe Egan is one of tysons mates he's not gonna say anything else is he,and whats Mike tyson turning pro before lewis gotta do with anything? When tyson was beating a washed up light heavyweight that had drug problems for a world title lennox lewis was knocking out riddick bowe for a gold medal... Let that sink in

@tuaman21 No, it's the first time you see someone as tall as he is. Riddick Bowe would have boxed his ears off. So would have a prime Holyfield. Not saying he wouldn't have won, as his right hand leaves that possibility open, especially with Bowe, but I see him getting outboxed for the majority of the fight.

@Thehwchampionotw Basically saying that a 29 year old Lennox is better than a 36 year old Lennox. To say that a fighter is better at 36 than he was at 26 is really stretching. I am sure there are exepctions, but that is not the norm. Thirty six is not prime by any stretch of the imagination. Assuming a fighter is even fighting at that age, he is rarely beating anybody noteworthy and very few are champions at that age. Only two heavyweights have won after the age of 36. Walcott and Foreman.

don king paid lewis to step aside bc he wanted tyson to regain the titles. tyson was not scared of lewis he faught alot of huge guys in his career, when he faught ruddock, ruddock was a feared heavyweight..bowe and holyfield refused to fight him. tyson only faught bums in tghe beginning of his career which is normal, he destroyed larry holmes, and he KO'd a 12 year undefeated spinks in 91 secs. tyson has ko'd 23 fighters in the first round, including 2 reigning heavyweight champs

you are wrong man i remember that year, tyson only had 1 chance at lewis and that was after not before seldon. tyson didnt pick and choose, the reason why tyson fought seldon is cause seldon was WBC(or WBA) heavyweight champ, it was a unification fight. tyson doesnt choosen who he fights, and niether does lewis, so what good would paying lewis do when its the belt holders that have final say in the matter

I think Lewis' size and jab would be too much for Mike. It would have frustrated him, and he would have started losing it early. To quote Mike himself, he could never have beaten Lewis, he's too big and strong. If he didn't catch Lewis early, he would have been in for a long night. Lewis would probably have stopped him even earlier than he eventually did, as Mike would have been more aggressive, and open to counters....etc etc... As for Holyfield....would have been a great fight.

your comments....they say all about you.

Comment section is the perfect example of Tyson fanboys butthurt. Not everyone reaches their prime at the same time lmao.

isnt lennox from the UK, why is he wearing a canadian top

@403766 He was 36 years old, way past his prime. What are you smoking? It's actually more stupid to say that a man approaching his 40's is in his prime. I will go out on a limb and say you are no older than sixteen.

Biggs battered Lewis there. Lewis reckless with a lot of learning to do at this point. Evidence also of his suspect chin when getting wobbled in third. Lewis was wiped out twice with one shot as a pro. He’s the only heavyweight ‘great’ to get taken out with one punch, without taking much punishment beforehand. McCall took him out in 2 rounds! You had to kill both Holy and Tyson to beat them! Same goes for Holmes,Foreman, Frazier and Ali! You’re never taking these guys out with one shot.

Lewis had a nicer style as an amateur than he did as a pro.

@nap.of.the.earth...

2 жыл бұрын

His pro style was advanced. His pro style was about what he was good at and focused on that. Extremely effective. Long reach stance, perfect jab and a fierce right hand.

@403766 Coming from someone who thinks a 36 year old man is "in his prime" I'll take that as a compliment.

The finest deepest boxing team ever developed in the world accordig to the commentator. 9 Golds of which Taylor, Whittaker and Breland were fair winners in any games. No Cubans - Teofilio would have cleaned Biggs out in roughly 45 seconds, Tilman lost to DeWitt, O'Sullivan battered Tate 1988 Roy Jones Junior loses a terible decision though the scene were set in LA 1984 Since the new system exactly how many Golds have the US won? 5-6? Cuba have won that each games since 1992

isit true that in amature boxing u cant drop ur hands cause tyrell biggs doesnt drop his hands in this fight

haha i read it. Don King, not tyson paid lewis, and it states exactly what i said. Seldon was a bigger match because it was a unification fight, and dont king wanted tyson to retain the belts, that is understandable. as for what u said about holyfield, im sorry i dont buy it, u look like ur fighter bashing to me. holyfield didnt suddenly get a heart condition before the tyson fight, he had that scare for a while

tyson lasted 6 rounds biggs bc he wanted to hurt him for as long as possible..inflict pain. he could have finished him alot earlier, but he wanted to teach the shit talking biggs a lesson

@rubberegg Holyfield, lost a narrow decision (7-5) to Lewis when he was way past his prime. There is no doubt in my mind that Holyfield would easily outbox Lewis.

A prime tyson would win against lewis,kevin rooney in his corner. he was a pitbull in his prime, and i think Lewis wouldn't cope with that speed n power.

So...are you saying you predicted Holyfield would win their first fight?....or is it all excuses afterwards. Anyone who was saying MIKE'S GONNA KILL HIM beforehand, but then pulled out all the old excuses afterwards is a hypocrite.

yeah, and an amatuer tyson destroyed lewis when they sparred. lewis peaked in the late 90's when tyson was on his decline

If only Tyrell didn’t get in to the drugs

Canada rocks!

lewis outboxed in 3rd

@403766 Point being 1) You don't know the difference between a 36 year old boxer and one in his prime which never involves any number above 30 and two, your inability to have an adult intelligent conversation without resorting to name calling. Enjoy the fights.

@ZachTommyGunThompson Me 2

prime tyson beat a prime biggs, biggs beat lennox when they were young, without a doubt tyson would have killed lewis

@CoronaJoe So Tyson always failed? How about continuing on after D'Amato died. Fighting the same month that Jimmy Jacobs was sick and died. Having marriage trouble, showed up fat and late to camp, got knocked down by McCall in that camp, going into the Spinks fight but still blew away Spinks after getting his shit together. How about being without a proper trainer, being rocked by Bruno early and coming back to win by KO. Being rocked against Ruddock and coming back to win by KO.

Lewis was at the nearest level to match up with tyson among all the boxers i ever saw.His height,reach,and exellent clinch skill would iritate tyson fully.

aremenius25 Lewis knocked out Biggs.

Biggs and Lewis fought again in the pro's 1991 and Lewis won by third round TKO. Biggs was done as a fighter after the Tyson fight though.

and of course at that time, holyfield was a much bigger draw than lewis, and we all know how money hungry don king was. he controlled it, stop accusing tyson of anything, Google said Don King, not tyson. Don King is a promoter, thats what they do. if it was tyson, the WBC would have stripped him of his belt, read my reply from last month

Prime Lennox lost to Prime Biggs, Prime Biggs lost to Prime Tyson, then way past prime drugged, broken, jailed Tyson and past prime Biggs lost to past prime Lennox😂 That too Lennox took 8 rounds I guess to defeat already dead Tyson😂 It means Tyson could rip off Lennox ass in 80's👍

Lewis was boring

@thedarksecret1 Lennox Lewis won gold in the 1988 olympics not this one

I never said he was the same fighter, I said the results would be the same, as I don't think early Mike was as indestructable as his flash KO's of tomato cans made him appear to some people.

pmack u sound like a fool sayin tyson paid lewis to not fight, rather than reply show ur proof

strong smart but boring fighter.

just like Tyson beat a prime pre-drug problem Tucker who was also tall, had a long jab, etc. And of course to go on about "I would have won if...." would make him sound like a sore loser. Lewis still had trouble with Mercer. And was knocked out by McCall and Rahman so it's possible a prime Tyson wins.

He encountered adversity when he met better competition. The versions of Lewis and Holy that Mike fought would have beaten the younger Tyson too..in my opinion. I dont get why so many Mike fans pass off the Douglas fight, with nothing but excuses for Mike..It wasn't like he was caught with a lucky shot, he was systematically dismanted. He had no clue what to do when his opponent didn't fall down, just kept throwing the same combos that had worked so well in the past, had no idea how to adapt.

Lewis was just a kid in this fight.

@johnny6610

5 жыл бұрын

cforte0423 He was 18 lol ....Stop

@lefez9015

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnny6610 18 is still considered a kid in boxing.

@johnny6610

5 жыл бұрын

Le Fez tell that to Wilfred Benitez

@lefez9015

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnny6610 Just because he became a world champion at 17 still doesn't mean he isn't inexperienced. And look how his career turned out when everything was rushed.

@johnny6610

5 жыл бұрын

Le Fez why can’t you say Lennox was a slow bloomer and carefully matched in his early in his career. He was older than Bowe and just younger than Evander, not gonna even mention Tyson.

If you're going to toss your "facts" out there, you might want to check them first bud. Lewis stomped Biggs as a professional, in 1991. He KO'ed him in the 3rd round. By the way, Biggs didn't just beat Lewis in the amatuers, he also beat your boy Mikey. I was and am a big Mike Tyson fan, followed his entire career, but man his die hard fans are almost always the most ignorant boxing fans out there. Most who think Mike was the best ever, think Sonny Liston was married to Cher..lol.

This shows Lennox Lewis is an overrated glass-chinned,boring and slow loser. He was so skinny against Biggs.What a genetical skinny guy this Lennox. And he was the worst athlete in a "The Superstars" contest in 1998 in his prime years. It's ridicolous. Lewis hadn't era in pro.He won only one undisputed heavyweight world championship fight.

@mrboxingfreak

8 жыл бұрын

+FFMM7 I was not a fan either, but can't call him a loser.

@parracatau

8 жыл бұрын

+FFMM7 Well he did destroyed Biggs as a profesional when they fought so go figure, Lennox was boring no doubt but he was a dominant champion

@willh69

8 жыл бұрын

you're so right FFMM7. Lennox was an outstanding legend of all time. What an amazing boxer. Definitely Top5 Heavyweights of all time.