Legendary Cheater Todd Rogers Just Lost Another Lawsuit
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@TKUltra971
Жыл бұрын
These out of touch man children from TG are the gift that keeps on giving.
@johnconnor8206
Жыл бұрын
Do I get to leak goverment documents
@johnconnor8206
Жыл бұрын
Please let them be idf
@ethanrutkowski9712
Жыл бұрын
I bet 10$ you wouldn’t reply
@TheEdZachary
Жыл бұрын
Please make "Silly Bitchel" t-shirts as merch
Good grief, that “Silly Bitchell” line caught me off guard lmao. I’m never calling him by his real name ever again.
@Mooza1
Жыл бұрын
He's a great liticunt
@jcrobot
Жыл бұрын
Me too! I was not expecting it 🤣
@TravTravYT
Жыл бұрын
This has irreversibly changed how I will name that man, I had to PAUSE at work hearing that lmao
@YouTubeGaveMyHandleAway
Жыл бұрын
Bitchell is a good name
@simplyintricate4160
Жыл бұрын
Same. Legit coffee out my nose.
"Todd Rogers has claimed more fake world records than anyone else." Finally a legit world record
@LePreuxBuisson
Жыл бұрын
I didn't even think of it that way lmao
@dwbie131
Жыл бұрын
I’m claiming 5 million video game world records Just to steal this one from him.
@puyu8621
Жыл бұрын
@@dwbie131 i'm claiming 8000004 world records. get good kid. And i'll even make a list of them you can find it in my secret book.
@ZeldaFan64DD
Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@qu1253
Жыл бұрын
*Todgers
I love the Todd Togers cases. They feel like side stories following a tertiary character in the Silly Bitchell extended universe.
@Aikisbest
Жыл бұрын
While Mitchell is actually upsetting, Rodgers is like the relief character in a crime drama, at least at this point.
@emilyofjane
10 ай бұрын
He’s the Shakespearian fool
@HirokiEtsuko
8 ай бұрын
It's that side quest in a MMO that makes you laugh.
The best part: One of the games gave you like 2000 points and then started counting down in intervals of 5 until you win. His Highscore? 999,999 He just went down a list of games and wrote his name and a high number on it, at least 100 times greater than the current number 1 player. He never even started or looked at most of the games once. I think playing "Have you seen this game before" with him would be great. And Todd has to guess if he is the self-proclaimed world record holder who blow everyone out of the water or has never played it. "Oh yeah I have the record" "No, you are not in the list." "Never seen that game before" "oh yeah? you are 300 times higher than any other player ever according to this highscore..."
@StewyAdamRules
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that. That’s honestly a million times crazier than him just playing a game badly a bunch by himself and making up a time, the fact that he could claim to be a master of a game while clearly knowing nothing about it is just insane.
@CouchSpud91
11 ай бұрын
My personal favorite is that he said he had a score of over 10k in a game where your character is literally killed and given an instant Game Over the moment you hit 5k or something like that. Sorry, it's been a while so I don't remember which game it is. It was featured in Apollo Legend's coverage of it.
@gairisiuil
10 ай бұрын
@@CouchSpud91 I think it was Wabbit - auto death at 1300, todd's score? 1,698. It doesn't help that the game only counts up in increments of 5.
"While Billy Mitchel lawsuits have a tendency to last years, Todd's end up failing after just a few months." With such a natural talent for speedrun, if the guy had put that kind of effort in video games, he would've had a few legitimate world records by now.
@neoqwerty
Жыл бұрын
He should have tried softlock% and death% categories, he seems to be mostly skilled at getting game overs and going nowhere.
@TrackpadProductions
Жыл бұрын
There is one world record Todd may have a legitimate claim to. _"Longest fraudulently held Guinness World Record."_ I mean, they'd never give it to him. But he may very well qualify.
@stephenmanuel9860
Жыл бұрын
He always starts his lawsuits in 2nd gear.
@AntoshaPushkin
Жыл бұрын
The name is Silly Bitchell, write it correctly
@danemartin5288
Жыл бұрын
I love this. He's speed running failed law suits lol
Hi Karl! Lawyer here. As always, I am very impressed by your non-lawyer legal analysis. The reason Twin Galaxies and Guinness cannot recover fees from Todd is that in the U.S. parties typically bear their own attorneys’ fees absent an agreement (i.e. a contract) or specific statute that allows the prevailing party to recover attorneys’ fees. Parties usually cannot get fees for winning a standard tort case. However, parties can recover “costs” like filing fees-but early on the filing fees (~$1,000) are not worth the expense of filing a motion. Theoretically, Twin Galaxies or Guinness could recover attorneys’ fees by filing a malicious prosecution action against Todd. However, a malicious prosecution claim is hard to prove because it requires showing a lack of “probable cause” and, even if successful, would take years to adjudicate. After being dismissed, most clients are just happy they aren’t being sued anymore and move on. Todd can try again in Florida if the dismissal was “without prejudice.” If the dismissal was with prejudice, Todd cannot refile an amended complaint in the same case. The personal jurisdiction holding means that Todd cannot sue Guinness and Twin Galaxies in Florida, but leaves open the possibility that he could theoretically sue them where they are based (assuming the claims are still timely). I guess we will have to stay tuned to see what happens next. Thanks for the great vid.
@jagordon1976
Жыл бұрын
Attorney here as well - just want to add to this fantastic response. Most states have a vexatious litigant law, which does allow for the defendant to potentially recover attorney's fees. However, these law usually require the party to file several lawsuits pro se (without an attorney) in a period of years (here in Texas it's 5 lawsuits in 7 years) which the courts found to be frivolous or were determined adversely to the plaintiff filing the lawsuit. If the party is found to be a vexatious litigant then the defendant can request that the plaintiff be required to post security which would cover the reasonable costs, including attorney's fees, of the defendant. I don't know what the law is in Florida (if there even is a law) since I'm not licensed there, but I suspect there is one, but it likely doesn't apply. Yet. Give him a couple more lawsuits, though, and they may go this way if such a law exists in Florida. Love the videos - keep up the good work!
@amandalam7272
Жыл бұрын
Thanks to both of the attorneys commenting here, I appreciate the insights into the US legal system. Commenting to boost your helpful info!
@fifiwoof1969
Жыл бұрын
@@jagordon1976 Donald Trump lives in Florida. Does he fit your mould? I don't think I've EVER heard of a MORE vexatious litigant, yet I don't hear him being called one in the media, probably because he'd try to sue whoever called him a vexatious litigant, even if it's a judge in a court ruling, lol.
@itsmegiorgio
Жыл бұрын
honest question: why is it that way? on the surface it would sound fair that the one that loses a case (or is dismissed entirely) pays legal fees for both sides? I guess there's a good reason and I'm curious
@wildriftprofessor1782
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interesting comment pal.
I love how Karl can keep a relaxed voice when saying stuff like "silly bitchell". Never change, Karl
@dragonofdaggersgamingvideo87
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many takes it took him
@treehann
Жыл бұрын
I burst out laughing. I wonder if it took him multiple takes.
@TrackpadProductions
Жыл бұрын
The best thing about it is that "Bitchell" is actually a completely legitimate portmanteau abbreviation of his name.
@Catheidan
Жыл бұрын
Karl jobst really woke up and chose violence that day
@gratler
Жыл бұрын
probably took a couple takes :D
Back in 2010 when I was pursuing the Yars’ Revenge world record high score, there was a category for a 15 minute contest, wherein Todd led the leaderboard with a 700k score. I constantly puzzled over techniques to figure out how he could have scored that high that quickly. The pace of Yars Revenge starts slow, and simply doesn’t allow this. I should have figured he just made up that score. My WR submission to Twin Galaxies at that time even included some commentary on Todd’s 15 minute record. I should dig up that VHS tape.
@BeepBoopBee
Жыл бұрын
Please do. It would be pretty enjoyable to watch. Also, I'm curious what score you achieved. I'm not familiar with the game, but I'm quite curious what it's like now ^~^
@zenkim6709
Жыл бұрын
It's yet another Atari 2600 / VCS title -- think of it as a weird cross between Breakout & the 1980s arcade classic Star Castle.
Todd should have started his lawsuit in second gear
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
Жыл бұрын
Boom!
@fuzzy8593
Жыл бұрын
Shakalaka?
@KittyKatty999
Жыл бұрын
*CRITICAL HIT!*
@HrHaakon
Жыл бұрын
Give it that human factor?
@DemBigOlEyes
Жыл бұрын
He forgot to pop the clutch.
Lawyer here! Will they get their costs back in any fashion? Highly doubtful. The odds of them seeking costs (if not done so already in their motion) are low. But even if they do, Todd is what we call "judgment proof" meaning he doesn't have any assets they can take (assuming that in this jurisdiction a sanction award/cost shifting award can attach to property like a judgment can). And then, of course, even if they did get an award for their costs, he just wouldn't pay them.
@christian5256
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! (commenting to bring you closer to the top)
@catboygremlin
Жыл бұрын
interesting! thank you
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that US courts don't do this. You pay your own costs. It's not like the UK where it just automatically happens.
@CptJistuce
Жыл бұрын
@@namelessliberty9869 Yup! Though usually it's the other way around, with a wealthy business using the legal system to club individuals of modest means. It's exactly as abusable as it sounds, but I don't know of a good solution. Forcing the losing side to always pay costs makes it even harder for a little guy with a legitimate grievance to attain justice, since if he fails in his quest he will be saddled with ruinous debt.
@sozetsukokai9327
Жыл бұрын
@@CptJistuce afaik, even IF the little guy was successful in his law suit, they'd still be financially ruined. big corporations can drag a suit out for years, so even if you win, by the time it's settled, you'd be buried in debt.
The courts just don't get it. They're not accounting for the "human element" in his lawsuits
@JanusHoW
Жыл бұрын
(insert "I'm only human" meme here)
@azrael-labs
Жыл бұрын
Human after all ? The hit album of Daftpunk ?
Tod Roger’s second lawsuit lasted 5.51 seconds in the court room.
Dude legit claimed over 2000 records in an interview? Insane.
@oldpro8783
Жыл бұрын
yeah and not just having achieved 2000 WORLD records but holding them actively at time of interview.. riiiight. Not impossible for some guy/girl, just not that guy.
@losbloontas
Жыл бұрын
The interviewer keeping a straight face after hearing that lol. I would have let out a quick held-in laughter
@RycoonGalloy
Жыл бұрын
@@oldpro8783 is it possible to hold 2000 world records? maybe not holding actively, but actively seems unlikely
@ashokkumar-zw8vi
Жыл бұрын
@@RycoonGalloy no way dude. No one,like no one even hold a thousand record. He is holding 2000? Its fcking insanity
@oldpro8783
Жыл бұрын
@@RycoonGalloy according to google one dude earned 600 world records and actively holds over 200. 2k would be difficult but no doubt Mr Beast could get it done and one of them would be the speed he did it in. lol 2k world records in 24hrs or I give my mom an island made of legos.
At first I felt quite antagonistic towards Todd for his obvious lies. But seeing more of him, I feel just sorry for him. His entire personality and identity is built around a lie, to which he clung onto way too long. What Todd needs isn't a lawyer, it's a therapist.
@joshs7160
Жыл бұрын
A lie he's told for so many years that he probably believes it's the honest to God truth.
@Yeard491
Жыл бұрын
I would feel more sorry for him if he admitted he was wrong and also wasn’t a malicious prick xd
@alecrutz6979
Жыл бұрын
@@johnmclawson3982 please don't bring trump into this, this is not the time
@koshi6505
Жыл бұрын
@@johnmclawson3982 Accurate.
@battosaijenkins946
Жыл бұрын
@Karl Jobst, ROFL 'Silly Bitchell' ??! Brilliant.. 😂🤣
Judges and lawyers must be like “oh god not another twin galaxies lawsuit”
Todd Togers is an absolute legend, in his own mind.
Todd's lawsuits are so short because he is trying to master speedrunning the "lawyerless" category, it has no marathon safe strats, but that just goes to show how hardcore of a speedrunner this man really is.
@henrysokol3466
Жыл бұрын
"The difference is that Todd doesn't have any money. Therefore he can't hire a lawyer, therefore he represents himself. And that's really not a good thing, because Todd is an idiot." Does anyone else imagine he was saying that a little like John Cleese would?
@Snacker6
Жыл бұрын
Don't most speedruns only count if you win though?
@LilacMonarch
Жыл бұрын
@@Snacker6 Depends on the category, maybe he's going for the "dismiss%" category
@dragonofdaggersgamingvideo87
Жыл бұрын
Speedrunning himself homeless
@MyselfAgain
Жыл бұрын
@@Snacker6 Any% only aims for a credits roll. Like most Any% runs, the quickest ending is just the worst ending for the in game story.
I love how hard Karl is swinging on these idiots. You can only push a good man so far before he pushes back.
@PsiRedEye22
Жыл бұрын
Yoiu can tell Jobst got a good amount for legal fees, because he is actively lighting these fucks up.
@sorrenblitz805
Жыл бұрын
@@PsiRedEye22 Todd doesn't have the money to sue Karl, so he's not worried about it. Billy doesn't actually have evidence of defamation so that suit is basically a frivolous money sink attack.
The funny thing is that these guys are WAY more famous than anyone with a real world record will ever be
@egotrips4810
Жыл бұрын
That's not funny, imagine the hrs put in to achieve a world record just to have these goofballs with *fake* records take the spotlight
@spearfisherman308
Жыл бұрын
They just knew the right people, instead earning their records.
@OlgaZuccati
Жыл бұрын
idk, I don't think a lot of people even care about Billy Mitchell, and even less so about Todd Rogers.
@raphaelkoch1573
Жыл бұрын
Famous for the wrong reasons though.
@digifreak90
7 ай бұрын
I think infamous would be a better word to describe them.
I love how Karl calls Todd Rogers an idiot three times, lmao. What a legend.
@mhalbe1984
Жыл бұрын
He looks like a video game nerd version of ron jeremy.
@solar901
Жыл бұрын
Just stating facts.
@josearmandorodriguez8959
Жыл бұрын
And silly bitchel
@Justinicus24
8 ай бұрын
pretty childish actually. karl is a scared little boy
@Marcomanexists
8 ай бұрын
He is really thick
I swear, Todd and Billy are like that comedy relief villian duo you see in cartoons like Team Rocket.
@wolvie1973
Жыл бұрын
Imho they're more like pinky and the brain.
@bleachfan9000
Жыл бұрын
@@wolvie1973only neither have any braincells to speak of
@nachocdbz
Жыл бұрын
This needs to be a T-shirt. Even the hair styles match Team Rocket's
@MediaMunkee
Жыл бұрын
@@wolvie1973 "Gee Billy, what do you wanna do tonight?" "The same thing we do every night, Todd. *Try to sue the world!"*
@Cynderfan35
Жыл бұрын
@@MediaMunkee XD thank you, I read that part with the voices of pinky and the brain
Todd Togers may not have the world record for Dragster, but if he keeps it up he'll have the world record for most frivolous lawsuits in no time!
@Blarsen780
Жыл бұрын
He won't stop until he reaches 551
@benjason_94
Жыл бұрын
billy mitchell might have something to say about that
@KurticeYZreacts
Жыл бұрын
Yep, he did actually get the world record for best lawsuit failure. It just keeps happening. Todd Roger's speed running thru court is so entertaining
@HandsomeLongshanks
Жыл бұрын
Billy Mitchell is stiff competition tho
@montagneresmontagneres8346
Жыл бұрын
Ye they are actually creating a whole new speedrunning category, hats off to them
I literally died at “Silly Bitchell.” I had to be resuscitated and am now hospitalized.
I love how you just casually sneaked the word "Bitchell" in there 1:18, had to replay it to catch it hahaha.
It's truly saddening to see Todd Roges go through this when he is objectively the greatest human being ever made
@clearspira
Жыл бұрын
He set off in second gear don't ya' know?
@zwenkwiel816
Жыл бұрын
Haters gonna hate XD
@ItsMeYourRealDad
Жыл бұрын
@@clearspira legends say he actually did it in reverse. Real heroes don't wear capes
@prla5400
Жыл бұрын
@@ItsMeYourRealDad just XXL *clothing
@iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg
Жыл бұрын
Todd Bloggers is really Togers and Bogers
I never would have expected to be so invested in the "idiot cheaters suing people" series but here we are.
Billy Mitchell's hair looks like he's wearing a hoodie especially that shot at 0:02 it's so distracting. How much hair spray does this man go through in a week
@KaladinVegapunk
3 күн бұрын
Seriously he's got like a jan Michael Vincent hair helmet level of product
@farlan2935
3 күн бұрын
@@KaladinVegapunkhe's going for the darth vader silhouette
Lol I love that the "Most replayed" point is to skip the stupid mid-video ad. I hate those, so thank you previous viewers for all doing the same thing enough times! :D
Todd Togers never fails to surprise and entertain me- more so than a lot of the internet drama recently
@sophiegrey9576
Жыл бұрын
uhm actually his name is rodd rogers 🤓
@meowcat7124
Жыл бұрын
@@sophiegrey9576 nah, he literally called himself in a lawsuit Todd Togers lol
@rayray2glocks
Жыл бұрын
@@meowcat7124 lmao woooosh
@TwiliPaladin
Жыл бұрын
@@meowcat7124 They're aware of that, hence the nerd emoji.
@OrangestarLover
Жыл бұрын
Todd Togers aka Rodd Rogers aka Todd Rogues aka Toddzilla
Todd Rogers seems like the kind of guy who'd go to random gatherings in the park and stand around until someone asks what he's doing there, just so he can tell them he has 2,000 world records.
@rashira9610
Жыл бұрын
Oh you know he went to cons trying to use it as a pickup line.
@MakerInMotion
Жыл бұрын
@@rashira9610 First he washed with Dr. Squatch because he saw those stupid ads and thought it would actually make him irresistable to women.
@OrgaNik_Music
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he'd blurt it out even before anyone asks.
@segro123
Жыл бұрын
I aint touching no NPC
@brandonizaguirre2963
Жыл бұрын
He seems to me like the guy who hides behind bushes at the park looking for benches who have girls sitting on them and when they leave, he goes to sniff the seats
This was equal parts savage and hilarious. I try not to find too much joy in other people's failings but I'll be damned if I didn't laugh multiple times during this video
With respect to costs, they'd need to provide proof of whatever costs they asserted. Rogers would also get an opportunity to defend against the asserted costs so he could demand a hearing. Ultimately even with the bare minimum obstinance from Rogers it would probably cost almost as much to get costs as it did to write a response to the original lawsuit, because you have to pay the lawyers to sit in court all day until their case is called.
@camwyn256
Жыл бұрын
And then there's the apparent fact of Todd being "judgement proof", hence Todd representing himself. So, in addition to going through more hearings and motions, not being able to collect because Todd is broke
@erickpoorbaugh6728
8 ай бұрын
Also, if Todd doesn’t have a lot of money, they might have trouble collecting anything they win.
Todd Togers and Milly Bitchell are a comedy gold mine. Thanks for keeping us updated and entertained Karl, you're an absolute legend.
@TsuNAmI2069
Жыл бұрын
errr excuse me... but it's SILLY Bitchell :) We really need to call things by their names :)
@brodieb5066
Жыл бұрын
Woah woah woahs lets not get sued boys
@duckpwnd
Жыл бұрын
I actually have some respect for Billy Mitchell. We all do dumb things and make mistakes. Billy Mitchell had the class and integrity to admit that he was caught, own up to his cheating, and move on with his life.
@Wheelman2004
Жыл бұрын
I came into the video expecting "Todd Todgers" and ended up losing my shit over "Silly Bitchell" coming out of nowhere... Karl is an international treasure lmao
@archmagusofevil
Жыл бұрын
@@duckpwnd I can't tell if this is amazing sarcasm or if I found Silly Bitchell's youtube account. Either way, well played.
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO GO TO SLEEP! DAMNIT KARL!
@chrisbeach423
Жыл бұрын
Same
@ItsDangerousGoAlone
Жыл бұрын
For real
@zgeist2861
Жыл бұрын
This
@Daniel-jz9td
Жыл бұрын
Same lmao but now I feel like an absolute legend so I am relieved and motivated.
@mookymookymooo
Жыл бұрын
Been there
Not only can you not serve by certified mail in this type of case, but the summons papers literally say that the Plaintiff CANNOT be the one to serve them. He didn’t even read the instruction
The fact that Billy never once stepped up and said ‘yes I saw him, he did do these records’ like Todd stepped up and did for Billy. You can tell who’s the narcissist and who’s the hanger-onner
@BovineIntervention
6 ай бұрын
Billy literally did do that multiple times though
I just imagine the lawyers at Guinness and Twin Galaxies phoning each other when the latest lawsuit comes around, going over the papers and sharing a good (if slightly tired) laugh at the contents. They should frame the lawsuit and display it in their offices as the easiest win they've ever had.
@Romess1
Жыл бұрын
More realistically they will just sigh and get frustrated over more of their valuable time being wasted.
@LachnLoad87
Жыл бұрын
I will go out of my way and say that would be the biggest flex from any company.
@Wtahc
Жыл бұрын
haha u think twin galaxies is legit org XD not corrupt as fuck surely XD suuuuuurely XDD
@waccness449
Жыл бұрын
@@Romess1 No they wouldn't, lawyers love this shit. They're paid to do this, without idiots like Todd they wouldn't be paid so much. Guinness and Twin Galaxies would be upset they lost money, not the lawyers who had the easiest day at the office they'd ever had AND still got paid.
@Romess1
Жыл бұрын
@@waccness449 Implying Todd has any money to begin with? Yes they would amigo.
The fact that at this point you're just going ham on them because they will sue you even if you don't is amazing.
@zorochii
Жыл бұрын
Well, these videos pay the lawyers, so...
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
Жыл бұрын
Let's just all agree, that ham is good...
@CowMaam
Жыл бұрын
@@Robert_McGarry_Poems yknow robert you make a good point sir
@zorochii
Жыл бұрын
We'll enjoy the delicious ham.
3:56 "Todd Todgers" sounds kinda appropriate tbh.
0:42 That caught me off-guard, kudos for the savagery lmao
Karl quickly becoming the most knowledgeable Aussie on Florida law.
@Timic83tc
Жыл бұрын
A lot of us researched after we were locked down for years...
Wow Togers couldn’t even respond to the motions to dismiss within 14 days, let alone in 5.51 seconds.
@wiiabee
Жыл бұрын
he tried to start the lawsuit in second gear 😔
I literally never heard of this man until I discovered these videos. At least with Billy Mithcell I've seen AVGN mention him as well as seen the Regular Show episode that makes fun of him but never Todd Rogers. Before I watched these he was always a complete stranger.
It's crazy how this saga of two random dudes filing dubious civil suits over the legitimacy of their video game records hardly anyone cares about except them, has better viewership on average than actual sports events and some Netflix shows. What's also interesting is how within this tiny little ecosystem, there are somehow TWO guys operating in an identical manner to one another.
We need a King of Kong type documentary with Todd Todgers and Silly Bitchell filing and losing lawsuit after lawsuit.
@ley_doggo5614
Жыл бұрын
This is the goofiest comet ive seen in a while
@finalfantasu7615
Жыл бұрын
Upvote!
@blenderfox
Жыл бұрын
Mind you that would be a world record I don't think anyone would be dispute.
@joshstewart2131
Жыл бұрын
Look at Todd’s attempt here, he’s clearly shooting for the speedrun in the most dumberest gaming lawsuits category.
@ekamsingh1640
Жыл бұрын
A summoning salt video: The history of abusing the faulty justice system in Fake records.
I will say this. I used to be a Todd Rogers believer. Todd and I used to be friends; in fact, he was a huge motivator in me quitting smoking back in the late 2000's/early 2010's. But man, seeing all of this has just made it all go downhill. I used to have faith in his impossible Dragster, but that's been straightened out in my head. Take care of yourself, Todd. You can be a better man.
@redjed100
Жыл бұрын
Can he, though? I’m serious; he’s had three chances to do the honorable thing and leave the retro gaming community and get a real job, however poorly paying, and he’s taken none of them.
@JDLowe
Жыл бұрын
@@redjed100 I get ya, and I don't disagree. It doesn't mean I can't be optimistic for positive changes, though. I'm naive, sure, but I can be hopeful.
@camwyn256
Жыл бұрын
@@JDLoweI hope you didn't end up smoking again because of it. Crazy expensive, that habit
@JDLowe
Жыл бұрын
@@camwyn256 Thanks for the kind words! You ain't kidding, SO expensive, and I was just a pack a day smoker, but I haven't had a cigarette in around a decade and I'm doing good. I appreciate you, friend, thank you!
@PointsofData
Жыл бұрын
First off, really happy to hear about the smoking and I hope you have a wonderful life ahead of you. Secondly, out of curiosity, does this paint Todd in a generally new light for you? Are there things you think back on that "click"? Or are these just actions you didn't know about/didn't know he'd take? Trying to get a better picture of Todd overall.
I would honestly love to see a live stream between you Billy and Todd where you ask them questions and they have to answer and have it out 😂
@yittmashups
Жыл бұрын
Same, but they'd never be so stupid as to take part in that. ...right...??
The judges need to start asap with billy Mitchell asap. Start making him paying back all the people he sued with his stupid lawsuits
The Todd Togers saga indeed never ends. Also Billy being named "Silly Bitchell" is just hilarious.
@theKashConnoisseur
Жыл бұрын
"Your honor, how can the plaintiff claim slander when I was never referring to the plaintiff? Rather than referring to Mr. Mitchell as he implies, it's obvious from the audio and my script that I was referring to one Silly Bitchell, which is a completely different person."
@Dropbear2024
Жыл бұрын
Legit the highlight of my day 🤣
@jdcarrier953
Жыл бұрын
@@theKashConnoisseur “In filing this lawsuit, the plaintiff therefore recognizes Silly Bitchell as the proper way to address him.”
Not a lawyer but I do work in litigation - my guess is they are very aware that he's not going to be able to pay up re costs, and consider the idea of chasing those to be more trouble than it's worth. Whether they'd be so lenient a second time would be interesting to see.
@outseeker
Жыл бұрын
true, if he claimed to have fifty cents i'd assume he has a quarter at best.
@admiraltonydawning3847
Жыл бұрын
If you work in litigation, check out David Stebbins (Acerthorn).
@ashelltalks-zc7ce
Жыл бұрын
they don't have to collect to move to enforce a decision, however they should do it for the message; My professor taught me "when you get that shiny decision worth 1million dollars you can wipe your posterior with it until you've seized their assets and actually have money. (because that takes more litigation and filings to get what the decision says you're owed right?)
@professorhaystacks6606
Жыл бұрын
This is my guess. I believe the phrase is 'judgement proof'. Unless, of course, he were to sell that alleged book. So this tells me they don't think it exists either.
@Koreanspree
Жыл бұрын
@@outseeker half a penny at best
0:43 1:19 - Silly Bitchell 2:21 - Back to Billy Mitchell
I like how this is basically revolving around 60 year olds arguing about high scores.
After the absolute annihilation of Todgers, I feel bad for him. Basing your entire identity on a lie, with no money in it, living in squalor, and having the lies exposed, leaving nothing. Nothing. What a crazy way to choose to live.
@ufsteropolstero6014
Жыл бұрын
the moral of the story is, it's only people who make a fortune off their lies and misdeeds or even crimes, deserve to have nice things. Remembering how Microsoft was caught in much bigger scandals than this yet their largest shareholders are living large much like the VW CEO who oversaw emission scandals which actually killed people. Too much of a low hanging fruit to give any props to Karl.
@paulmurgatroyd6372
Жыл бұрын
If you're really determined, then there's always more you can lose.
@djretro83
Жыл бұрын
Todgers. lol You know what that is in the UK? It's slang for "dick".
@outseeker
Жыл бұрын
don't feel too bad, he managed to get fat so he clearly hasn't been starving
@hullinstruments
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's super depressing and I kind of feel bad for him in a way
Karl's savagery has improved 10 fold after this whole Silly situation. I love it
"Can you imagine what kind of insane twisted ramblings would arise if Todd actually did respond to these motions? It would have been AWESOME!". I'm dead
11:03~ You know something is up when the least upsetting image of Billy Mitchell you've seen is one where he smiles (a weirdly innocent smile coming from him) and gives the camera the finger, lol.
As echoed in many other comments, I love how you've just given up hiding how ridiculous you find these charlatans. Your videos were beyond entertaining before, and even more so now! It's admirable how much research you do onto the exact reasons why they're such idiots. You're an absolute legend.
@GamesFromSpace
Жыл бұрын
What are they gonna do, sue him?
@TheRedRaven_
Жыл бұрын
@@GamesFromSpace Not sure if that’s sarcasm but Silly Bitchell has tried.
@magetaaaaaa
Жыл бұрын
It's like every couple of years I find a video about this group of people, and there is always some new scandal. Is anything real anymore? Lol.
You know what this situation with Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell reminds me of? There was a great Soviet movie, The Ordinary Miracle, and one of the characters in it was Hunter, who is, well, a supposedly great and famous hunter who spends all his time defending his past achievements ("So far he procured fifty diplomas confirming his fame and shot sixty detractors of his talent") instead of actually going and shooting some game because he's too afraid that other hunters will scrutinize his every shot. And when he actually goes on a hunt again, he cheats.
@ExiorasMusic
Жыл бұрын
Except that these guys did not even achieve anything. They've been cheating from the start.
@averageeclairenjoyer3010
Жыл бұрын
@@ExiorasMusic That could've been the case with that character as well - no one else in the movie corroborates his claims, so it is possible that he was a complete fraud from the beginning.
For the legal cost issue: Yes, a judge WOULD likely affirm a reasonable asking amount for costs. The fact it was thrown out so quickly only strengthens that likeliness since the court obviously and correctly saw it was a clown show being run by an idiot simply to waste time and try and coerce a company into doing what he wants. Also, SLAPP suits are quickly fading out in North America, as court after court after court is rejecting them and ordering costs to be paid out.
idk why but hearing "Hello you absolute legends" always makes me smile.
i like how you mentioned that during your sponsor segment, war thunder vehicles are made to be as realistic as possible. and it's all thanks to those guys leaking classified documents
"Silly Bitchell" just broke me. Well played.
@Sparkiiro
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment because I didn't know if I'd heard right, I am HOWLING
7:55 the captions picked up "Todd is" as "TARDIS" Funny... If Todd could travel though time, I assume he'd attempt to prevent his records from being discovered as fake. Though, knowing how Todd handles things, he'd probably uncover more falsified records by mistake. If he was the TARDIS itself, then... well... don't think he could do all that much, unless the Doctor or someone else was around-but at that point, it'd be the Doctor or a companion preventing Togers' records from being uncovered as fake, and I think Doctor Who has more important duties to attend to than reinstating bogus records via time travel.
"Silly Bitchell" is the best dig I have ever heard in my entire life
Todd should have already been in second gear before the lawsuit was filed.
@truthsmiles
Жыл бұрын
Rookie mistake
"Again, this is one of the pitfalls of both representing yourself and being an idiot."
Wow. I remember finding your channel all those years ago when you dual commentated one of Goose's Speedlores (I think they were trying to branch into PD-Lore at the time). So it brings deep warmth to my heart that Todd (and Billy) are still giving you so much material to work with... And I love every dang seccond of it... Keep it up, dude!
@jeanderbar
Жыл бұрын
There have been some new PD-Lore videos as of late, btw
Imagine living your entire adult life, desperately clinging to a singular achievement that defines and shapes who you are as a person, and knowing in your heart that it's a lie. I think Todd's actions start to make more sense when we consider that this "record" literally means everything to him. It IS him. Just let it go, Todd.
The most shocking thing to me in all of this is that Todd somehow managed to survive and feed himself for this many years.
@Tangers3345
Жыл бұрын
Well, he's definitely dressing himself, that's for sure
@quadZ_z
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what he does for a living haha. I'm imagining some absurd Robert King-esque shenanigans 😂
referring to him as Todd Togers occasionally is the cherry on top
0:43 I legit had to rewind it back twice to make sure I heard that name right 😂😂😂 Thanks to you, I’ve been on speed running for the past 2 years and last month I decided to start speed running Golden Eye since it had a remake. But besides that, you do a great cover on these guys and I love the content! Im a happy subscriber 😎
I love how videos with Billy and Todd started out neutral and relatively polite, but with both of them being litigious bungholes the niceties have gone out the window.
@ValexNihilist
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that! 😂I nearly died when he said "Silly Bitchell"
@Geyrider
Жыл бұрын
@@ValexNihilist also the fact he kept calling todgers an idiot and dumbass
@TheGoonsies
Жыл бұрын
Lol I think his first Todd Rogers video just goes straight to "Everyone knows Todd Rogers is a liar and a cheat" xD
@1v966
Жыл бұрын
@@ValexNihilist well, it has at the time already been factually proven that he was, in fact a liar. It's not like my guy went throwing random insults into the dude's face for no reason
@ValexNihilist
Жыл бұрын
@@1v966 Oh I know. Definitely not saying Karl did anything wrong. I thought it was hilarious lol
Guinness really went “Nah, I refuse to be sued like that” and it worked. Absolute legends.
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
Жыл бұрын
He sent the paperwork to the wrong company. They had no real obligation to respond at all, which was how they argued to get the case thrown out, also taking it a step further and explaining that even if he had filed correctly, there was no merit to the claim. They did what is called good leg work, or in other terms due diligence.
@bfure1
Жыл бұрын
The advantage of having real lawyers, they can look at the paperwork and immediately say "This is bullshit, just ignore it"
I don't know how I fell down this rabbit hole, but I've watched a few of these Billy Mitchell and Todd Rogers videos now and where is the Netflix series?
They say the man who represents himself in court has a fool for a client. This guy proves it very effectively
If Todd keeps this up he’ll finally hold an actual world record for failed lawsuit attempts.
@garystinten9339
Жыл бұрын
Speedrun!
I feel really bad for Todd. His life must be very hard, to cling onto a high score for a video game. I hope his life gets better.
@neoqwerty
Жыл бұрын
A high score that he verified himself back when it was still up, too. Yes, Todd Todgers was a Twin Galaxies verifier and *he verified a substantial amount of his own records*, including Dragster. (Also verified several of Silly's scores, too.)
@fade2black001
Жыл бұрын
He's been doing it for what, 40 years now?
@jjandjacks7928
Жыл бұрын
@@fade2black001yep, he’s been faking scores from at least September of 1982.
@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN
Жыл бұрын
He seemed really pathetic in Chasing Ghosts.
@lostskull7467
Жыл бұрын
Tbh when you file lawsuits that could theoritically end up stealing huge amounts (with the intent of doing so) then I think you don't even deserve pity
Im loving Karl's lawyer arc 👨💼
Todds approach to lawsuits has the same energy as a highschooler trying to complete a boring assignment as quickly as possible, ignoring every obvious mistake and not thinking anything through at all
Karl woke up and chose violence 😂 He just came out swinging! “Sheer patheticness” “Silly Bitchell” “Because Todd, is an idiot” Glorious 🤣
@dan-ph7ob
Жыл бұрын
3:57 “Todd Todgers”
Hearing "Todd togers" without context was funny enough, then casually seeing it on an official court document minutes later had me in tears.
When I'm sad I watch Tood Rogers and Billy Mitchell Lawsuit videos and become awesome instead So thanks Karl, you absolute legend
@mwilkins1644
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Todgers and Bitchell should watch these videos
@Candoran
Жыл бұрын
Otherwise known as Silly Bitchell 🤣
@yittmashups
Жыл бұрын
@@mwilkins1644 Well Silly did sue Karl over one or 2 of these videos about him didn't he? I think that'd probably classify him as a fanatic (aka a fan) of the channel.
10 seconds into the video "He doesn't have a weird mullet or a nice suit" I'm howling already 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I swear Karl, that one day Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell will want you to write their biographies with how much knowledge you have of them.
@MakieMisa
Жыл бұрын
And knowing Karl, he'll do it.
@TheScrunge
Жыл бұрын
@@MakieMisa 100%!
I'm surprised Todd didn't send you a copy of his book himself to claim the $200.
0:42 Silly *itchel had me dead
The thing that is the most ridiculous and hilarious to me is the fact this man managed to misspell his own goddamn name
Really started off my day strong when I clicked this. Less than 5 minutes after waking up I hear "Silly Bitchell" and it's put a smile right on my face. Thanks for your updates Karl. Without you, truly no one would give a shit about these old dumbasses. Your presentation is the only thing that keeps them interesting enough for me to click a link about.
@YOEL_44
Жыл бұрын
Wait until he can do the "Turd Ragers" video.
I am sure they did not seek costs because Rodgers has no money. It would be a waste of money to pursue a judgement they would never collect.
"Todd did not respond." And in so doing, I will never recover from this disappointment.
Lol you can tell Karl knows that Todd will probably love watching these videos because they are about him so Karl has to make sure to call him an idiot as much as possible. I love it.
@AlwaysRetr0
Жыл бұрын
I honestly think he's taunting him to create some sort of illegitimate legal case against him because he would find it funny
At this point I'm pretty sure Todd is just a broken record in disguise
@GAMEPRODELTA
Жыл бұрын
I dunno, even broken records play a different track once in a while.
@fl4p159
Жыл бұрын
A broken record with no world records
@Kaedalus
Жыл бұрын
3 broken records in a trenchcoat
@krzkrz7091
Жыл бұрын
Nice pun!
Oh man, the classic Roy Schildt dig of using "Silly Bitchell" being brought back made me laugh my ass off.
"Silly Bitchal" Lawyers: Karl Don't mention Billy until after the lawsuit. Karl: Sure no problem! Lmao
Todd "The Human Element" Togers and Silly Bitchell never fail to entertain with their shenanigans! The dynamic duo!
@WarlockX4
Жыл бұрын
RIP Apollo Legend... "None other then the human element Todd Rogers"
It's almost like Karl is working hard to get cheats to waste their money in suing him for slander. What a legend!
@fifiwoof1969
Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTE legend! Get it right Waide.
Attorney (and gamer) here. Generally corporations do not seek costs against pro se (unrepresented) litigants unless their conduct is quite egregious - because, frankly, it looks bad, and usually feels somewhat unfair. Courts do not favor penalizing lay persons for not knowing the law - in Todd's case, he is so oblivious that he hardly poses a threat to a major entity like Guinness, and his complaints were so incompetent that dismissal was inevitable. He is not armed with an attorney or millions of dollars, and, further, he is patently unsophisticated. That's not to say that an order for fees or costs would never follow, but that would probably take a few more baseless or aggressive filings from Todd to get there. If Todd hired an attorney and had the disposable assets to throw excessive legal challenges indiscriminately against many more people, and tried to use the legal system as his own personal sword to attack anyone that said his name, a court would be more prone to issue some kind of sanction at that stage. But until then, a court will usually be satisfied by sanctioning him in the most direct way possible - dismissing his case and demolishing any chance he may have had for money damages.
looooooooool when he said "silly bitchell", i almost shat out my pelvis
0:42 - Silly Bitchell!! HAHAHA!