Riolu's apology coming soon in 40% speed

@screambmachine

3 жыл бұрын

nice thought, but actually it'd have to be sped up

@TechPandaa

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated Command tbh

@ironheadbr7210

3 жыл бұрын

i mean you're not wrong but that comment is indeed a big oof

@theapexsurvivor9538

3 жыл бұрын

Funny way to say 2%

@nervz3837

3 жыл бұрын

Ok this one is good

Riolu: cheats like crazy *gets called out* Riolu: how dare you

@hybrid5851

2 жыл бұрын

With german accent like: HOW DAE YOU

@olivergrafe8998

Жыл бұрын

@@hybrid5851 to be exact: Wie kannst du es wagen?

@Elim_Animations

Жыл бұрын

Riolu is under dirtbag in the dictionary

@dunichtich100

Жыл бұрын

The typical reaction of a cheater or lyer 😅

@brianbishop5322

Жыл бұрын

Riolu should get hired by Joe Biden.

I wonder if Riolu got bored watching all 41 minutes of this video

@CosmicGoku529

5 ай бұрын

This video is only 20 minutes long. Where are you getting 41 minutes from?

@BRPerfections

5 ай бұрын

@@CosmicGoku529 he's watching it at 50% speed

@xreox1

5 ай бұрын

😂

@andyb3522

5 ай бұрын

@@BRPerfections most underrated comment.

@cloppit_

5 ай бұрын

@@BRPerfections that is, bravo, that is probably the best comment I have ever seen on youtube

"Backstabing a friend." I would rather call it "having a backbone" for not showing favoritism for anyone. Good job.

@irtur52

Жыл бұрын

For me "backstabing a friend" in this situation is what riolu did. Attacked his friend on livestream to try to hide the truth and devalue his work.

@brunoslybruno

Жыл бұрын

@@irtur52 yeah, ironically the backstabbing one would be riolu - throwing its friend under the bus now that it was caught, when it could just go the 'well i fucked up, im sorry' route the worst friends are those that would see you doing something wrong and would side with you, friendship includes calling eachother out when youre doing bad things, not just sucking up eachother's mistakes and being a yes man

@Nebulaoblivion

Жыл бұрын

The world would be a better place if more people cared about the right thing, instead of giving free passes to their friends to be shitheads. Wirtual showed true character here, and I respect him for that. It can't have been easy confronting him about it, or going public with it, but the truth is more important. He gave him every opportunity to get ahead of this, confess, and apologize, and from what I've seen in comments, it seems like a lot of the community would have accepted that, appreciated it, and still support the guy. Instead he lashed out like a child, and ostracized himself.

@jasonsls96

Жыл бұрын

@@hughle9913 Depression and suicidal thought aren't a choice someone makes. Committing sexual assault is a choice, you aren't any less of a friend, just because you set boundaries. if life puts him down in a way that's out of his control then yes stick by his side through it all. But assuming it wasn't a false report, He chose to sexually assault someone and you shouldn't have intervened with the course of justice. Again Depression and sexual assault are not comparable.

@Samtehcool

Жыл бұрын

@@hughle9913 That's awful and you're awful. Perverting the course of justice and ruining another innocent person's life for the sake of a friend who turned out to be a horrible person. There's not much lower a human being can go.

"Give us your replays, it'll prove your innocence." "No." Yeah, totally not suspicious.

@shaunlafferty1781

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know what the fuck

@sessentanoveLIVE

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest, donadigo and Wirtual should've contacted Nadeo about this and help them in this whole investigation before going public or asking for anything. This vigilante move is kind of weird. They did a great job finding this out, but this should've been handled in a much better way. Wirtual and donadigo don't have the right to expose this without any "official" investigation. Plus, the whole memeing on twitter and riolu's childish jokes and insults on stream turned this into a shitshow.

@tehalexy

3 жыл бұрын

@@sessentanoveLIVE a shitshow is way more entertaining ... i like it this way :D

@pilotpetrov3855

3 жыл бұрын

@@sessentanoveLIVE why shouldn't they have the right to do so? If their methodology is on point (which it is) then why shouldn't they come forward with this? TM lives, just like many other games, from the input and the engagement of their community. Nadeo provides they playground, but the community fills it with live.

@Dlowdenn

3 жыл бұрын

@@sessentanoveLIVE Nadeo isn't really that interested in punishing cheaters. Also they have every "right" to show that Riolu is cheating lmao, what kind of argument is that?

“Who cares about the records?”, said the guy cheating for records for 10 years.

@johnlucas2838

2 жыл бұрын

He obviously does, since they're his. And everyone would care because it's WRs for their passion, if they're cheated then it devalues that passion and disrespects the rest of the community. People screaming snitch have a degeneration of morality, and that makes it seem like they can be easily rolled over.

@joprez

Жыл бұрын

I play games for 23 years. I AM strongly against cheats. In my 23 years of playing almost everyday i Cheated 1 day of my life. This kind of cheaters in vídeo are people that cheat to BE on top, its not for learn, test or fun. Its for seriously get advantage of players that are actualy trying to BE the best. There is no excuse for this players and they should have their accs permantly banned and the people behind this acc should BE permanently banned from official competitions. No matter the game, no matter the reasons.

@Nebulaoblivion

Жыл бұрын

Dudes whining about it affecting his livelyhood, when it very well could have been someone elses livelyhood to start with if he hadn't been a scumbag and cheated.

@dio8070

Жыл бұрын

He cares if he’s been cheating for 10 years. That cap from riolu when he said that.

@rpgmakeraudit

Жыл бұрын

I still think he deserves a second chance

Never understood the calling people a "snitch" mentality. If someone's doing something wrong, they should absolutely be called out and corrected.

@thiscommentwillbedeletedso5211

2 жыл бұрын

Go to Detroit call out people doing wrong see how long you live if I was you I would stay on the Internet because the real world isn't for you

@JayDeeIsMyName

2 жыл бұрын

@@thiscommentwillbedeletedso5211 There you are again, threatening people. Woooo, tough guy. I'm shaking.

@MkiSaskTheGlumpSod

2 жыл бұрын

people don’t hate snitches strictly for calling out wrong behavior (obviously the person being called out will, but I mean others), they hate snitches for not having the balls (metaphorically speaking for women) to confront the person in question about their behavior and instead just telling on them to an authority to get them in trouble. It’s just the grown up version of being a tattletale, which if you didn’t hate as a kid, probably meant you were one.

@JayDeeIsMyName

2 жыл бұрын

@@MkiSaskTheGlumpSod Do you think that's the issue here? Let's just reinstate this; the guy cheated. Well over a few YEARS. Didn't even bother to own up to it after he got caught redhanded.

@MkiSaskTheGlumpSod

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayDeeIsMyName I have no idea where you got the impression that I was defending riolu? I was just explaining why people hate snitches to OP, I wasn’t even referring to the video

Imagine being like, "Hey bro, I know we're friends so I'm going to try and help you prove your innocence and keep you from looking bad," and your friend for many years just goes, "You're a fucktard anyway,"

Poor Wirtual man, finding out one of his friends who he respects massively cheated thousands of runs, and then being villainised by that same friend for trying to help. Wirtual, if you do read this, just know we have you on this one, and we all hope it gets resolved peacefully

@PaffDaddyTR

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment this needs to be on the top.

@fredrikstheim5041

3 жыл бұрын

Top comment?

@Kenzie3581

3 жыл бұрын

why ya down here? get up to the top edit: cool now u at top

@joaorichter9970

3 жыл бұрын

@@herpderp3131 are you implying there is a first party that conducts investigations for justice on cheaters in the trackmania community? if there was, this guy would be it. this is no vigilante work dumbass, this guy has been doing it for years and was part of many official groups hired to detect this sort of behavior in tournaments. plus, he and donadigo developted a program used to analyze any discrepancies in WR runs, which now is a must to legitimize any run that makes it into the leaderboards. it doesn't get any more official than that.

@stonehornet2719

3 жыл бұрын

this comment needs more replies to get to the top

Cheating the runs he gave to the Devs to set target times for normal players is the scummiest thing

@Dracogame

2 жыл бұрын

I know right? What was the point anyway? That was so lame.

@TheSuperappelflap

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dracogame ego

@joaozin156

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dracogame My guess is time constraint. he was probably asked to do that within a specific time frame, and just didn't thought he could get good times done within that tight schedule, so he cheated to get it done quicker.

@Matty.Hill_87

2 жыл бұрын

I bet people beat those times though didn't they?

@wxbrainiac

2 жыл бұрын

@@joaozin156 funny thing is he cheated by playing slower to go faster

Donadigo making a simple screen overlay, that he probably only really designed to make it easier to learn from the record holders, only to have accidentally made an anti-cheat program is hilarious to me.

@MarsJenkar

4 ай бұрын

With it leading to him making/finishing an anti-cheat patch for TMNF, this time on purpose. Gotta give props to donadigo for realizing what he'd stumbled upon, and deciding _not_ to remain silent about it, but to seek help and investigate the matter further.

The moment Riolu became so salty was the moment I knew "Yeah he cheated"

@bappochan6615

Жыл бұрын

Watching the stream before this video went live was sad. Knew stupid shit was about to go down, wirtual spends months working on his videos and getting information as to not spread lies. Sitting in that stream watching one of wirtuals friends talk so much shit and hate because wirtual caught him out. He was even offered an easy way out, admit your shit, submit it to tm to have your records revoked, and move on. But he fucked his entire career because he thought kicking and fighting was the only way out

@ehvaandal

Жыл бұрын

@@bappochan6615 it's no different for athletes. They don't want to admit it because that's how they make their money.

@bappochan6615

Жыл бұрын

@@ehvaandal his main cash flow was viewers. And believe it or not there’s still a huge amount of people asking if he’s ok, asking if he’s ever gonna come back. If he admitted his shit people would’ve lost respect, but I wasn’t there for the records, I was just there for the good vibe streams. So he would’ve made his money, but now that he’s walked away he’s lost the ability. Tho apparently he’s doing good and is in good health working a job

Time for Riolu to hire an astrophysicist from MIT to prove his innocence

@MrUwU-dj7js

3 жыл бұрын

Scientist use evidence to support his claims, which Rioulu seems to lack, so that couldn't help

@BlueCyann

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrUwU-dj7js It's a reference to a situation in minecraft speedrunning that was similar in many ways.

@MrUwU-dj7js

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlueCyann Oh lol Do you know the name of the Minecraft cheater so I can look more info of that?

@Hayson898

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrUwU-dj7js Karl Jobst did a great video on it and where the quote "Players don't cheat to get a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster" comes from. The minecraft cheater is named Dream.

@MrUwU-dj7js

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hayson898 Thanks :)

"That's blackmail if I've ever seen it". Guess he's never seen it.

@jeltje50

2 жыл бұрын

"heyy you should watch out with what you say" "omg this guy is TOTALLY blackmailing me" ¿Que?

@sarcobarco9562

2 жыл бұрын

people laughing in his chat look like real clowns now lmao

@whitneysmiltank

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarcobarco9562 That's just typical twitch beta loser behavior tbh. Just licking the streamer's boots as much as they can without ever thinking that they could be in the wrong.

@leaderofcommunistchina1427

2 жыл бұрын

@@whitneysmiltank feels good to be a forsen baj

@Bloodseeker9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@whitneysmiltank its not at all what everyone in the commentsection is doing right now... oh wait it is.

This video is the very definition of "innocent until proven guilty". To me, it looked like you had enough evidence to say he was cheating less than halfway through the investigation, but you still went through interviewing more people, compiling hundreds of races in data, and writing up a professional report on the findings. I couldn't believe it when the already-airtight argument was made even *more* airtight by other racers coming forward to admit to using slow-mo, and then showing that their input logs looked very similar to each other. "Beyond a shadow of a doubt" indeed.

@brunoslybruno

Жыл бұрын

thats how it should be, if its a situation where no hard evidence can be acquired, then you should go far and beyond to make sure youre being fair, imagine if it was wrong and then just, because you didnt go all the way, you ruined someone's carreer? but yeah, this is beyond great and its how it should be done

@1v966

Жыл бұрын

speedrunning community is literally a different breed of humans - and I'm saying this as a person that in no capacity is part of it. like remeber the Dream thing? my dudes literally made a 50 page pdf with formulas verified by top tier math scientists to prove a faked rng in a run that WAS NOT EVEN A WR. I understand that Dream is a huge name so everything concerning him was bound to be big anyway but still, THE RUN IN QUESTION WAS NOT EVEN C L O S E TO WR. it was like top20 or something. and the dudes still felt compelled to write a whole аss research paper on the thing. incredible stuff

@nyalan8385

Жыл бұрын

@@1v966 well yeah, if you dedicate your life to mastering something to that high of a degree for the sake of competition you would be very passionate to make sure the competition is fair

@WrestleGermainia

Жыл бұрын

@@1v966 I don't doubt some of the unknown speedrunners would do something like that as well, like you said the speedrunning community is a different breed, but Dreams reason for doing that and peoples outcry wasn't anything to do with the position his run was at. It was mainly because he's a huge content creator and influence on younger audiences, and on his end his very very lucrative career was on the line. (And from what I gather the general conclusion to that was that he did cheat, but actually most likely didn't know he was cheating based on Karl Jobsts video, so in his eyes he was probably defending himself legit.)

@yipperdeyip

Жыл бұрын

Stilll not warranted to have the guy's face in the thumbnail, being seen by millions. That's humiliation that could lead some to shit like depression and suicide. Then, cheating in a stupid videogame wouldn't seem all that bad.

obsessed with watching cheating scandal videos about games i’ve never heard of. no clue what’s going on at any given moment, but god knows i’m thoroughly invested

@tgis

10 ай бұрын

err… car go broom but slow no and cheater is more precise. That’s a summary

@houtarooreki5751

10 ай бұрын

Can be summarized with this Wirtual: riolu you cheated didn't you? Riolu: of course not why would you think that Wirtual: here's a mountain of evidence and other player confessions that say other wise Riolu: ... Also riolu: you snitch

@alexc9434

7 ай бұрын

Same. I didn’t even know this game existed before this video

@swisstorian

5 күн бұрын

no literally have never played or watched this game before but im so locked in rn 😭

imagine finding out you legit actually beat a cheated time

@nitroseeks

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of insane players were battling against riolus cheated runs. Someone like racehans was able to beat him many times.

@Wargodx1337

3 жыл бұрын

racehans

@20Gero09

3 жыл бұрын

Well, the sad part is Riolu was actually able to produce those times without cheating, he "just" wanted to get there with less effort. But by this point I find that the cheating is no longer the worst part, but rather his manipulative approach afterwards instead of coming clean like all the other cheaters who got exposed the exact same way.

@tommihommi1

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine suddenly getting 10 WRs because of cheaters getting DQd

@captainspirou

3 жыл бұрын

Feels like Usain Bolt

* patch gets installed* Riolu: Ok guys I’m retiring from trackmania

@obscure8125

2 жыл бұрын

@PrimePal No he can't all offline runs are to be validated by this patch to get uploaded to the official site where it matter, you can't cheat on server anyway as its just recipe for disasters straight up bans, can't change the tick rate of server from client side.

@keanupanu

2 жыл бұрын

@@obscure8125 not true

@spkd123

2 жыл бұрын

@PrimePal while that may be true, you can always download the replay, run it in your own client and bust his/her ass. Cheaters will (hopefully) never go unnoticed again in TM.

@tiaanackerman6570

2 жыл бұрын

wait seriously? he stopped playing?

@jaredkimblesir_angel0292

2 жыл бұрын

😂

You were extremely diplomatic in every one of those communications with him, very tactful and intelligent. I think taking to offense to the “I’d urge you to think carefully about your tone...” message was him intentionally misconstruing your meaning- the knee-jerk defensive reaction of someone who realizes they’ve been caught doing something wrong and haven’t yet figured out a way to handle it. I understood exactly what you were saying before you explained further; accusing you of blackmail was ludicrous.

@PleiadesRuby

2 жыл бұрын

Also like it isn't what blackmail means

@ScarfmonsterWR

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't really "knee jerk". It was a measured attempt to gaslight and discredit the accuser. It actually happens a lot in politics every time any sort of public investigation is made.

@rory8182

Жыл бұрын

@@PleiadesRuby blackmail would be "give me $X and this doesn't go public"

@icedo1013

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the hundreds of chat members who were clearly 100% in agreement with riolu and his responses to the content in his video. Irritated the crap outta me

@Fyreflier

Жыл бұрын

"I’d urge you to think carefully about your tone [...] as it may just make things worse when the report comes out" does _not_ read as black mail in the slightest. It reads as someone hinting that the report will not show him in a favourable light and if his tone comes across as petulant or derogatory it may make it seem as though his statement is being made out of malice for the content of the report. In fact I would say it says a lot about Wirtual's character that he's trying to minimise the damage to riolu's career by reminding him to be magnanimous. And yeah as Rooby and Rory say: this isn't even how blackmail works. Blackmail would be Wirtual demanding something of riolu to prevent the report being published. There was no quid pro quo, just professional courtesy.

Dude said you are a "snitch"... to be a snitch, you have to be in on it, then had a change of heart. To find someone cheating and calling them out on it is far, FAR, from being uh snitch

@bdhale34

Жыл бұрын

Not entirely true, a snitch is anyone who while dealing with the law either being accused of the crime itself or another crime entirely or working with them for money (yes cops pay criminals to get other people in trouble and even constantly break the laws themselves to "catch" criminals). Willingly giving up information to get someone else in trouble to get yourself either money, out of trouble or less trouble is snitching.

@hannanah8036

Жыл бұрын

@@bdhale34 you'd have to be in on it in some way, either you're friends and they just expect you not to talk, or you're in a group somehow to get the knowledge of the crimes. Telling the cops about something you have 0 involvement in isn't snitching. Say you're robbing a story, and some random person jacks a car in the parking lot. You're both involved with each others crimes, and each expects the other to not tell. Honour among thieves and whatnot.

@livefastdiequick

Жыл бұрын

When people say snitch they are saying it is someone who tells on people

@nickvanrooyen3247

Жыл бұрын

​@@bdhale34 from a video I saw: "you are driving with a friend and you are pulled over by cops, your friend drops his stash of drugs between the seats. Cop find it and asks if its yours, you say no, cop asks your friend if it's his and he says no. You're about to take the rap since it's your car and you are driving. You "snitch" on your friend to prevent yourself from going to jail. It aint snitching if your friend isn't man enough to own up and was ok with you taking the fall"

@barneybetsington7501

Жыл бұрын

Wahmen bad

"I'm not angry, just dissapointed." is the whole tone of this video. Sad to hear about this.

@rkhrd3211

3 жыл бұрын

He really is his dad

@God-gi9iu

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@TheTanadu

3 жыл бұрын

@@michagabo8819 stfu and go away with spam

@anxs7168

3 жыл бұрын

He just mocked riolu on twitter so i think he is even glad for the content he got off that topic

@herpderp3131

3 жыл бұрын

It's a third party investigation. You know why judges hate vigilante "justice"?

"it takes a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies, but a great deal more to stand up to your friends" You gave riolu every chance to explain himself and he chose to ignore it

@visceral557

3 жыл бұрын

This better not be a quote from harry potter.

@agentep9979

3 жыл бұрын

@@visceral557 It is

@Agamemnon2

3 жыл бұрын

Ten points to Gryffindor.

@Missch_1

2 жыл бұрын

This quote is true.

@09fall_damage45

2 жыл бұрын

@@visceral557 f

I have never played this game, yet I enjoyed this video so much

@pdrohberg

2 жыл бұрын

It's really fun, you should give it a try. The newest version is free on Ubisoft (not all features are free, but you can do a lot)

@kiri2863

2 жыл бұрын

Lol monke

@rixco5811

2 жыл бұрын

me too haha. I don't now why i watch these video's, i don"t know this game

@christfigure

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao I was just watching your vids even though I don't play unturned. My life sucks

@GoryBark

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t expect to see you here p9!

It's so funny to me how everyone in his twitch chat is so quick to agree with him on everything, when he was lying about all of it

@SurriSama

Жыл бұрын

And how many of those people will never even acknowledge that they bandwagoned into supporting something that's hurtful to what they claim to enjoy. People are dreadful.

@kazukihashimoto183

Жыл бұрын

most people have 4 iq at best.

@Meals-sh9fs

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, it's too similar to a certain politician I will not name.

@KelmutHool

11 ай бұрын

simps gonna simp

@fastman5662

11 ай бұрын

A lot of Twitch chats are full of parasocial weirdos

Oh boy, when riolu is in the thumbnail, you know big things are in the video

@silbernesgold1333

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattcelder I meant the thumbnail

@enamel8846

3 жыл бұрын

his nose

@God-gi9iu

3 жыл бұрын

Oeoe

@God-gi9iu

3 жыл бұрын

Wowoowwoowowowowow

@UselessGTAV

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, big cheats

Man, I've been playing this game for almost 15 years now... As I saw those nicknames in leaderboards, I always thought of them, like they are super humans and aspired to somehow reach their level. At some point I realized I won't get over my skill level and accepted it. Now I don't feel hate, just... dissappointment. 😶

@Gamerspa0

3 жыл бұрын

O KURDE ZIO XD

@grcatm

3 жыл бұрын

but at the same time there good in bad stuff, imagine when i found out i beat a cheated time and im not even that good

@zawo

3 жыл бұрын

very true man

@Nico-ee3bd

3 жыл бұрын

As Wirtual said, these guys are very talented and could've gotten these sick times anyway. It would just take longer

@exix77

3 жыл бұрын

pora na powrót do tmuf

Hours I spent playing Trackmania : ZERO Hours I spent watching videos about Trackmania speed running : MANY

@TheGaming100

8 ай бұрын

same

@trongnghiachu1977

3 ай бұрын

Same here.

"Human beings aren't being treated very nicely" "This guy's a fucktard" Yeah I'd agree

“A gold medal is a wonderful thing, but if you’re not enough without it, you’ll never be enough with it.” John candy in Cool Runnings.

@theultimatejoost

3 жыл бұрын

I miss John Candy, he was so wholesome.

@sheuphorica7417

3 жыл бұрын

There is so much truth in that. There are different things in life than competition and success..

@dmackhno

3 жыл бұрын

Author medal is best 🤣

@Retrohhhh

3 жыл бұрын

@@dmackhno an author medal is a wonderful thing, but if you’re not enough without it, you’ll never be enough with it.

@johnlove2954

3 жыл бұрын

Cringe

Riolu using Wirtuals advise to not screw himself over publically by digging himself a deeper hole to dig himself a deeper hole was the biggest heap of irony i've seen in years, clearly was lost on him.

@SeeThroughist

3 жыл бұрын

@@herpderp3131 What's been done here is equivalent to investigative journalism... not vigilante justice...

@HDSpectrums

3 жыл бұрын

@@dukkk4944 tf u mean “digging what exactly” digging himself a hole, learn to read. This man has obviously cheated these runs. When it is confirmed 100% you will feel stupid

@ReiCaixa

3 жыл бұрын

@@dukkk4944 you are the one mad..

@lightyagami1752

3 жыл бұрын

Your run-on sentence is very difficult to make sense of. Maybe split it up into shorter and simpler sentences?

@brendan.perdue

3 жыл бұрын

@@lightyagami1752 I'm pretty sure all they're saying is "Riolu using wirtuals advice to dig himself a deeper hole was very ironic. Clearly the meaning of wirtual's statement was lost on him" which is not nearly as complicated as they made it

Shoutouts to donadigo, for being the technical backbone of the trackmania community. Polish mountain!

@MarsJenkar

4 ай бұрын

Props for his integrity as well. Not everyone who stumbled upon something like this would be willing to get an investigation started on this sort of thing, knowing that it was likely to blow up and become a big thing. But he did, and I think the TrackMania community has become a better place for it.

It's uncanny how egotistical cheaters always behave the same way. Deny everything, cheap excuses, attack the person but not the facts, and even hide facts or manipulate them. It's disgusting. It's pitiful. It's the lowest of the low. Pathetic.

@thetimebinder

9 ай бұрын

Oh, so Dream.

Wow this is incredibly disappointing. Being new to the scene and hearing it was like 15 years old I trusted that the people who claim to be legit at the top are. Very saddening to see someone like riolu, one of the few content creators who got me interested in trackmania, end up in this list. I don’t think you’re wrong at all for what you’re doing here Wirtual.

@J0G4mingLP

3 жыл бұрын

Virge

@fabclippers2632

3 жыл бұрын

ayyyy virge didn’t know you liked tm

@Hashd0gg

3 жыл бұрын

@@herpderp3131 no?

@Hashd0gg

3 жыл бұрын

he isnt doing that

@HerrLehmann0xcc

3 жыл бұрын

@@herpderp3131 You serious????

It is so interesting to me to see Riolu pull the same "clout chaser" argument on Wirtual as Dream did on Geosquare. He was getting away with it for so long, he didn't even realize it was possible he could be caught. The delusional ego is incredible.

@akeemmarks6781

2 жыл бұрын

I guess but the thing is dream proved his innocence. Riolu just got caught.

@mroto2626

2 жыл бұрын

@@akeemmarks6781 dream said he cheated

@AuraPanda

2 жыл бұрын

@@akeemmarks6781 Dream cheated. He admitted it on Twitter. He just (allegedly) didn't know that he was cheating at the time. I've actually thought about this Trackmania cheating thing a bit since I saw this video 3 weeks ago and it's kind of crazy how he's getting cancelled for cheating in a game where there was essentially no money on the line... But people who have done way worse things go on, creating content, uncancelled and uncaring about the haters. Rice Gum and Keemstar come to mind as shitty people who deserved being cancelled much more than Riolu. Sure, he's an asshat for talking shit to people who were investigating him... But he didn't do anything really that vile, you know?

@SSWAZZY

2 жыл бұрын

@@AuraPanda yeah he just waisted thousands of hours for the people who are playing legit. Nothing big happened

@loliabuzer

2 жыл бұрын

@@SSWAZZY i'm no trackmania player, but I guess his runs can still be useful to the community, even if he cheated. Many players can still use the runs to get an idea on how and where to improve. I'm not defending him, his records should be unvalidated (sorry for the bad english), but not everything is to be thrown away imo.

Btw. Not blackmail. It would be blackmail if you were using the report to get something out of riolu beyond an admission, like money to make the report go away or be less damaging. Just telling him to watch himself because the report is what it is, that’s not blackmail.

lol "Even if you are 101% right you will lose friends and respect from the community" That's a manipulation tactic if I ever heard one. People that play the game fairly *want* the cheaters to be found and ousted because they could potentially take their spot on a leaderboard. If you lose friends for exposing a cheater, they weren't good friends anyway.

i cant believe people are calling you a backstabber for holding someone accountable for their wrongdoings.

@magicmulder

2 жыл бұрын

People don’t like their heroes falling, and other people put the “reputation of the group” higher than naming and sanctioning perpetrators. It’s the same everywhere. “We can’t close the beach for a shark alert.” “Let’s never find the killer as he was likely one of our own.” Etc.

@Yungbeck

2 жыл бұрын

That says more about those people though.

@FireyFly

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to how the world works. US vs Bin Laden and such.

@FireyFly

2 жыл бұрын

@@terryfuldsgaming7995 Then read up on how Bin Laden got to where he was.

@stephenkamenar

2 жыл бұрын

look at the cheaters twitch chat, shows how stupid and tribal humans are

Idea for Wirtual’s next TM challenge. Get author medal on each track while playing at 175% game speed.

@tymekuzarczyk6021

3 жыл бұрын

this

@Pidrittel

3 жыл бұрын

So for riolu its just normal speed. :P

@theapexsurvivor9538

3 жыл бұрын

@@Pidrittel nah, it's about 10x too fast for riolu.

@qwedge

3 жыл бұрын

that would probably make e05 easier

@qualenski5370

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pidrittel no he makes the game slower

If you catch the sign in 16:02 it says “You can’t cheat physics” Riolu passed that sign one day and said “Challenge accepted!”

Riolu really did dig himself the biggest of holes. I come back to this video 2 years later and the sheer nerve of this man to decide before the report came out, instead of accepting that he got caught and attempting to salvage what he had left of his credibility, decided his best course of action was to slander the hell out of wirtual in an attempt to take him down with him, and then he just vanished forever. Acting as the classic french stereotype, he acted tough all the way up until the moment that reality hit him, and he surrendered.

@eroticspartan9600

7 ай бұрын

He really cemented his legacy as a cheater by not owning up to it. One of the GTA chaos mods, the slow-mo effect is called Riolu Mode - his legacy is now spanning across game franchises fanbases, though probably not in the way that he wished for.

The way riolu misinterpreted your warning, accused you of blackmailing and immediately proceeded to sobatage himself (in a way you warned him about) was as funny as it was sad and desperate. He sounds like a man who’s ground is crumbling underneath his feet.

@TheTanadu

3 жыл бұрын

No, he didn't misinterpret. He hid the rest of the message. He purposely did it so that he could accuse Wirtual on stream of blackmailing so (maybe) Wirtual would be sort of socially punished by the fans and so that they wouldn't believe him when he would speak about it.... but he showed us a report that proves everything, so.... Riolu wanted to "save" himself

@Frozander

3 жыл бұрын

More like misrepresented.

@Throwaway-hj2rr

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTanadu That is very true actually.

@medic2310

3 жыл бұрын

Check social blade. Crumbling is definitely the word...

@onlysmiles4949

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTanadu Not sure what his plan was when he still...had the rest of the message

Props to the people who admitted to cheating and didn’t make a fuss like riolu did. What they did was wrong but at least they accepted it as that unlike riolu.

@HAScrashedOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

No balls

@michaelmechex

3 жыл бұрын

It takes a lot to confess to cheating when your whole job is at stake, professional sportsmen also rarely confess to doping

@RitaTheCuteFox

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmechex i doubt he can make a living off playing tm

@methatis3013

3 жыл бұрын

@@RitaTheCuteFox you'd be surprised

@michaelmechex

3 жыл бұрын

@@RitaTheCuteFox he said it multiple times that he was a full time streamer and trackmania player, also that he would have to get a job if he dropped out of grand league

Reading that twitch chat was hilarious. Shout-out to the two people there that weren't sucking Riolu's dick and didn't jump to conclusions.

Chat at 14:08 "wait, are you fcked because you actually cheated?"😂

@thatguyanderson

7 ай бұрын

Hearing him mock Wirtual and seeing his chat going off made him getting exposed in this video 100x more satisfying lol. It's astonishing that he thought that wouldnt come back to bite him.

@francoislebois

7 ай бұрын

@@thatguyanderson just the reaction says it all, if he didn't cheat, he just had to show his runs and explain what he was doing

ngl my heart sank when I saw it was riolu who was one of the accused

@OkeOke-zs5ju

3 жыл бұрын

same

@mattcelder

3 жыл бұрын

Same. When I saw his name I thought "oh cool, they're using riolu's replays as a test to make sure it doesn't flag good runs as cheating, because we all know riolu doesn't cheat....oh.....oh wait."

@vReLx

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't expect this at all...

@pietromazzocco145

3 жыл бұрын

yeah same

@cpt_nordbart

3 жыл бұрын

It reminds of Lance Armstrong. That got really dirty... What mess. I like riolu

"I'd urge to think carefully about the tone you speak in" as he proceeds to read it in a horrible tone. Big mistake Riolu

@TechPandaa

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I was like "can't you hear yourself????" - It's sad that he cheated, but it is also really sad for his organisation.

@floofiekun1875

3 жыл бұрын

Riolu reacted in a way that almost all cheaters that get caught do - They weaponize their audience and claim it's for clout and shit. Dream did it when he cheated in Minecraft and Riolu is doing it here.

@Cyanide_Infused

3 жыл бұрын

wirtual saw what was coming 10 moves ahead and he tried to warn him out of respect of their friendship

@Cyanide_Infused

3 жыл бұрын

@@floofiekun1875 shows how much he values his trackmania rep over friendship too when you see him instantly turn on wirtual and call him a "fucktard" and whatnot....seeing this video i can't help but remember back when these guys met in ESA summer 2019 to speedrun trackmania

@limao.jericao

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

This video made me mad invested (for its duration at least) in a topic I didnt know anything about or care for. I have to compliment your incredible integrity and throughness and the ability to tell a story :)

Nearly 2 years later and riolu still silent. Massive L+Ratio

The cheating isn’t what bothers me in and of itself. It’s the fact that he did it for a decade habitually and when confronted, shit on his own friend calling him a “fucktard” and making fun of him. Those are the two things that i think reveal who this guy really is who i do think should be “canceled”. That kind of behavior from a 25 year old is unacceptable

@dennispianissimo3265

3 жыл бұрын

That dude probably has some big issues i assume. He got what he deserved

@sizalx5226

2 жыл бұрын

Well when you've driven yourself into such a corner for 10 years you don't usually react appropriately when confronted The situation in itself is a litteral threat, and the one confronting you is perceived as threatening This reaction is a given, and the message WAS worded in a way where it could be interpreted that way too. Wirtual knew he was dealing with a cornered beast, and that's why the messages were so clean and proper, but this one particular message stepped into confrontational grounds in its wording. It's more of a psychological reaction on the fly than an unacceptable behavior here, the unacceptable behavior was arguably cheating for 10 years

@PeterJavi

2 жыл бұрын

@@sizalx5226 If you're that much of a cheater, just get out. You don't have to deny or admit anything, your silence will be taken as an admission of guilt and you can move on with your life. The absolute worst you can do is publicly cause a scene, whether you're guilty or not

@ikitclaw7146

2 жыл бұрын

He should of just manned up like the rest and admitted it, you can have some respect for a person like that.

@Bloodseeker9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@sizalx5226 Besides the cheating stuff, what Wirtual wrote could easily be recieved as threat. Srsly who writes to a friend like this?

Class video, handled it greatly. No anger just dissapointment feelssadmen

@Darthvvill

3 жыл бұрын

Love u spooky

@lorenzogreidanus7387

3 жыл бұрын

Wist niet dat mijn child hood youtuber Trackmania keek

@marnix-h

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit spooky1611 oude herinneringen man!

@GamingWithPim

3 жыл бұрын

Dankzij jou kocht ik simcity met een maat van me een lange tijd terug! Goeie tijden

@danwolfe238

3 жыл бұрын

I dont feel bad morons deserved it thinking no one would cheat

imagine cheating for at least 9 years and thousands of records and getting mad cause you finally got realized and called out.

I have no idea how im binge watching history videos about a speedrunning game i barely know, but the way you narrate is so entertaining i cannot stop.

This is unbelievable.. Big respect for the "Techno" he was brave enough to admit he was cheating as soon he was caught . and such a dissapoint for Riolu who is just buried himself down with those pitiful excuses and denying everything.

@sirkiz1181

3 жыл бұрын

Technos reaction is the only acceptable one. It also shows that he has a conscience, which cannot be said gif riolu

@cyclosarin

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't even seen a reaction from Riolu at all.

@TheKaizerD

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyclosarin not sure if he deleted it but Riolu tried (poorly) to handle the situation before this video got out and called Wirtual names on livestream and Wirtual pointed it out in this video

@nuclearbaguette6646

3 жыл бұрын

Technoblade!!!

@WinterCharmVT

3 жыл бұрын

Techno at least has my respect for admitting it / owning up to it, and apologizing. Riolu, I have lost all respect for.

Hi Wirtual, i was 3rd at the DiRT World Championships myself so i'm an experienced person in this kind of behaviour. I won't take much of your time, i just wanted to tell you that i'm also a content creator, a Spanish one, so if you are interested in me translating this to my community or something, you can count on me, this is probably one of the best investigation videos i've ever seen on the platform. Thanks for this, it hurts so much, but it was necessary

@MrHerodoto

3 жыл бұрын

I support this and want to Wirtual to see this proposition.

@cristianmartinez6499

3 жыл бұрын

Tu? Aquí? Seguidor de Wirtual? Estoy en el cielo?

@MorodinStyle

3 жыл бұрын

Hola soy jugador de trackmania, aun cuando entiendo el ingles 80% seria genial si lo pudieras tener. Te apoyo!

@MarcusH...

3 жыл бұрын

post subtitles on the video

@MrHerodoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarcusH..., excellent idea.

The thorough-ness and serious tone of this video set it apart from most other videogame cheating videos. It is super interesting how deep you guys dug for all of this information, and the weight you gave this video made it much better, imo.

So not only is he a proven cheater but now we know he doesn’t know the definition of blackmail either

Handled like a gentleman, he sounded like a child caught red handed. Integrity matters in competition and, as good as he is, if he's cheating he needs to be called out for it.

@lilevilsoul

3 жыл бұрын

fr, Techno took it like a man

@DriftJunkie

3 жыл бұрын

Riolu is a child in a grown mans skin. I wish he would humbly admit fault, but damn... the milk has spilled...

@birkbuscher6571

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda reminds me of dream

@casematecardinal

3 жыл бұрын

@@lilevilsoul hey may have been in the wrong but at least he came out without any prompting through personal contact and did the right thing. Its somewhat refreshing considering how most famous cheaters act

@charliewennerstrom8010

3 жыл бұрын

@@DriftJunkie or maybe just explain what happened rather than going on a rant for a whole stream Edit: I just watched the actual stream and he actually does give a pretty good explanation, but he then just goes to attack W, which makes it seem he just wanted to attack him.

that's heartbreaking, after seeing wirtual speaking so highly of riolu for years, i can feel the sadness in his voice here

@picklypt

3 жыл бұрын

yeah.... :(

@alphapt9370

3 жыл бұрын

Yeh, this wasnt a video Wirtual wanted to make, at all. And i'm sure if rio could prove to him, as in means of replication, that it was legit, this would just die. But it doesnt look like it, at all. It's sad to see him having to do it, but it's a good day for the community, if all records of a cheater are purged.

@olivergupta6621

3 жыл бұрын

I just watched the Grand League VODs from 2020 and Wirtual's support got me into watching Riolu. It's just a really sad situation and I hope Wirt isn't getting too much hate.

@vincentvoncarnap2473

3 жыл бұрын

@@olivergupta6621 I think both wirt and riolu will get much hate

@thebinarybit6351

3 жыл бұрын

The only hate Wirtual will be getting is from people who are die hard fans of the accused. Wirtual presented the report as objectively as possible, and stated his own opinions in a clear manner. (things from the report were stated to be "from the report", and his opinions were stated with "i think" or similar)

I love when people with financial and notoriety based incentives to cheat beg the question "Why would I cheat?"

@nickmanville900

Жыл бұрын

Riolu was a tier 1 professional player even without the cheating. He competed at the highest level of the game in online events where his method of cheating is impossible. Makes his actions even more confusing.

@Fordmister

6 ай бұрын

​@@nickmanville900I disagree. If anything it makes it really understandable. You often get cheaters at the top of speed running type communities because they are extremely talented players. They don't start cheating because they aren't good enough to set extremely fast, potential WR times. They cheat because they know they are capable of those times, but to set one takes thousands of hours of play and a not insignificant amount of luck. It's more often than not about speeding up the process of getting the time they think they can achieve anyway rather than about cheating to make the time itself faster. Still doesn't make it ok but it's why you nearly always get top players in cheating scandals rather than it being people who aren't good enough to sit at the top table without them.

Man Riolu actions actually showed his level of mindset as well. Such immature reactions, "records don't matter", "he is blackmailing me" Only show what a man child he is. Which I guess you need to be to be cheating in a game for 10 years and not even having the basic decency to apologise when you were called out. Any adult should have been smart enough to realise by seeing the report that's it's time to confess if not out of decency then just to reduce the damage. The fact he thought he could get out for the mess by just lying through it was just pathetic and showed exactly how immature he was.

Riolu is my favorite content creator of all time. I've been following him for over 5 years. He's the only one I have ever subscribed to on twitch and bought merch from. This fucking breaks my heart.

@greenstonegecko

3 жыл бұрын

The worst part is that cheaters can sometimes succeed and build their lives on lies and still earn money from loyal fans

@literalghost929

3 жыл бұрын

@@greenstonegecko You think he'll be offering refunds? LOL It's even sadder to see that there are still fanboys who will continue to simp despite the overwhelming evidence that he's a cheater. Humanity is so depressing... This is a microcosm of society.

@arctic3od450

3 жыл бұрын

I will never be able to hate the guy as I've really liked him even with some of his flaws for a long time. I also don't feel like it's a scam as the content I monetarilly supported was very entertaining and even helpful to me at the time. He genuinely is and always will be one of the all time best TM players, even with a portion of his runs being cheated. But I'll never be able to look at him the same again.

@TimViolaSSB

3 жыл бұрын

@@arctic3od450 indeed, I was a big riolu fan the content he provided driven on stream was great, but that doesn’t matter at all to me when I know this person is a cheater at heart and won’t even admit the times he cheated. Today was a verry sad day for me. One of my hero’s died again, in my eyes right now he deserves everything comming for him, he shouldn’t recover from this. It’s 10years of false competing against people realy trying and feeling discouraged becuase they can’t reach riolu. Well that’s fucked up. This guy should start looking for a new job cause he doesn’t deserve his streaming and content creating career.

@lambachurro8790

3 жыл бұрын

the people who still think he hasnt cheated are just kidding themselves, and the people turning over at wirtual to send him hate are the absolute worst

People don't understand how difficult it is to talk about cheating ESPECIALLY when its someone you know who's done it. Wirtual was put in a really difficult spot by Riolu and then to add to that Riolu makes their private conversations public. Stay strong man, because doing the right thing is much harder than doing whats easy.

@humphreywolfe

3 жыл бұрын

Perfectly said

@thef183

3 жыл бұрын

Putting a private conversation on show is something that I will never ever forgive.

When this video released it got recommended to me and is the reason I play TM2020 but I had no clue what was going on. Watching it now with more knowledge of the game and community makes it crazy to see what really went down

How is this video 2 years old already.

One thing I really hate is when people turn to private insults in situations like that. It's like "I'm out of arguments about what he's talking about so I'll talk trash about who he is". Dumping social relations for fake internet fame. Worst kind of ego. People like that I break all contacts with.

@FalconProductions_

3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. On a basic psychological level, the second you start insulting your accuser, it makes me believe they're not innocent anymore

@tommihommi1

3 жыл бұрын

that was the point at which it because obvious Riolu is guilty, that stream was just sad

@ondrejandydlohos

3 жыл бұрын

Horheristo was the worst in this.

@jakubg.9693

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what he will do now

@LorenziusTM

3 жыл бұрын

Never watching Riolu again

"Felt he needed to do it to keep up with Riolu" Well, he wasn't exactly wrong 😂

@Ero_no_Kami

3 жыл бұрын

sad thing is he knew Riolu was cheating but had no way of proving or any evidence against it...so then once it became too much getting crushed by an unfair advantage he then decided to take 'if he can't beat them join them' approach. if he had tried to expose Riolu at that time he would have faced severe backlash just like Wirtual did before the posting evidence form. I just wish they resolve this issue peacefully without anything being broken apart

@venunathan3680

3 жыл бұрын

ya.......im wondering how he found out riolu was cheating..........or was it a hunch

@ano_nym

3 жыл бұрын

@@venunathan3680 no idea what actually happened, so this is just a theory. But perhaps they were on a very similar level at first, then suddenly the other dude started crushing him totally, leading him to believe that something was shady.

@xyetian3465

3 жыл бұрын

@@ano_nym riolu got accused of slowmo in 2015 by Sunspinx on TMX United, and Lanz grew some interest in that after reading about it for the first time. He wrote this some days ago in a public confession.

@venunathan3680

3 жыл бұрын

@@ano_nym thanks, that could be a possibility. But at 8:57, techno says "tried to beat him with his own methods", as if he knew exactly what riolu was doing, slowing down the game.

I can’t get over how when narcissists are called out for cheating they throw you under the bus and play the victim. Such awful behavior and I’m so glad he disappeared from the scene after his terrible response. Good riddance.

the fact that I don't even follow the trackmania community but the way you explain things it's what gets me hooked, it's amazing sir .

When the person accused of cheating turns to things like "this is such negativity", or even something in the line of this "human beings" argument, that only makes it more suspicious.

@fastmadcow

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen this situation to many times before in communities across gaming as a whole. It's really sad that people can't just own up to there mistakes and come clean. It just makes the situation worse for everyone.

@MetalMike87

3 жыл бұрын

Arthur Schopenhauer - The Art of Being Right It's an essay composed of 38 stratagems. The last resort, #38, is "Argumentum ad personam - Become Personal, Insulting, Rude" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@UnnamedThe

3 жыл бұрын

Victimhood rallies the masses. Let's put it a bit more extreme for illustration purposes. You are in a survival camp and accuse someone of stealing food. They yell out claiming victimhood. A couple of people sympathise with them. They call you out for stirring up drama and threaten to exile you. Would you keep pursuing that person? Scale it down, rename a couple of concepts and you have this situation here. It's actually a smart move of riolu to employ this strategy. Just watch his clip in this video and look at the chat go. Fascinating how fast that goes, isn't it? Purely logically and from a chance perspective, he's doing a proper job. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone it, but we can't start seeing things through purple glasses, that will just discredit us.

@TremereTT

3 жыл бұрын

Never ever admit your past failings! The more often you lie about it the more your memories and believe about it will change, you will be convinced by your own lies. It would feel like beeing the absolute truth for you. This makes you also more convincing to others as you aren't lying at that moment anymore.

@UnnamedThe

3 жыл бұрын

@@TremereTT This attitude can turn you into the US president.

Wirtual being a bro and letting him know to watch what he says so he doesn't appear as the villain, and then he starts attacking Wirtual for trying to help him. Yikes. Super disappointed in this childish behavior

@m53545

3 жыл бұрын

@@foureye7058 did you not watch the video

@janrl16

3 жыл бұрын

@@foureye7058 I recommend you watching riolus latest vod.

@Zarzar22

3 жыл бұрын

@@foureye7058 It's in the video dude

@mr.memmer8097

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zarzar22 It's out of context... just watch the riolu's stream, then read the report and make up your opinion

@JayyyCloud

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.memmer8097 except it is not out of context, riolu was just a childish person in this instance

love his chat blowing up after reading that comment. i bet a lot of them are in these comments now acting like they never said that shit.

@fortnight5677

Ай бұрын

It's always "well I really didn't think he did it," excuse. The evidence is not yet out and they don't know Riolu was cheating, sure. But they also didn't know Wirtual was lying. Yet, they still simped for Riolu when he straight up called Wirtual a "fucktard," instead of providing evidence and telling his side of the story. I swear, people on the internet and mostly "fans," of anyone famous, is full of people lacking social cues. I don't even need to see the evidence if the guy being accused of cheating is out there making fun of private messages without the other party's constent, calling them fucktard, laughing at messages with their girlfriend, never talking about the main reason of why they are being accused of etc. I don't even care if you were cheating, you are just a disgusting person at that point.

I think the biggest takeaway from this video is that there were more people than just riolu that were caught cheating, but they all owned up to it immediately, and they're not the highlight of the video. Riolu fought against the allegations, slandered the investigators, and continued to lie about what he'd done. Nobody has any sympathy for adults who act like children.

@SylviaRustyFae

7 ай бұрын

On that last note, i know many adults who act like children and they wud take issue with bein compared to such a rude person who hasnt even had the benefit of preschool to teach him right from wrong

Big ups to techno for admiting to it and trying to help out with the investigation. It takes a real person to do that.

@syed2187

3 жыл бұрын

ya i don't even blame people for cheating in a game to a certain degree because i'd do the same in some situations if im very desperate. But if you are being called out for it u shouldn't just go on the offence and call people dumb for saying that u cheated just like this riolu case.

@kimax8621

3 жыл бұрын

@@syed2187 Or you can just play legitimately in the first place

@syed2187

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimax8621 it isnt always that simple

@kimax8621

3 жыл бұрын

@@syed2187 Its actually pretty simple to decide to speedrun a game without cheating

@NFCloud

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimax8621 It's human nature my guy, speak for yourself. Other people can't fight that urge as well as most.

More than us, imagine how disappointed Wirtual must have felt.

@doctorjawline7608

3 жыл бұрын

Is he crying under his blanket? LUL

@XBorlaugX

3 жыл бұрын

@@doctorjawline7608 ?

@ByMyslf1

3 жыл бұрын

@@doctorjawline7608 what are you talking lol

@senuashie

3 жыл бұрын

Confused normans, oh no no no PepeLaugh

@pinty2109

3 жыл бұрын

He sounded like he was about to cry that whole time

Wirtual has been loyal and friendly all the time, giving riolu more than one chance to do the right thing, and still riolu has played the piece of shit card every time when he was already in the wrong, Wirtual has said in this video to not degrade riolu after the result of this report, but he doesn't deserve it. Wirtual has a lot more patiance and clemency than me for sure, not even losing his calm after the defamation stream. What a chad, too gentleman for this world

I don't even play these games but your videos are so well made and captivating. Thanks for the content bro.

The saddest part is seeing his chat just laughing at your message while the streamer they're watching is lying to their faces about cheating in a game he plays proffesionally...

@gavinander464

3 жыл бұрын

yeah but i mean thats how stream chats are, like a bus full of screaming school kids, half of them probably didnt laugh like that anymore once the report came out

@---dy5ux

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavinander464 it's very easy to judge now that all the facts are out. when riolu streamed it was the first time that this cheating investigation came up and he led his viewers to believe that wirtual was accusing him over a replay from 10 years ago with no proof. He also left out part of the last message that clarifies wirtual's intentions. it's easy to manipulate people when you are the only one putting out information.

@gavinander464

3 жыл бұрын

@@---dy5ux dude. when i cheat, for over 10 years, and someone accuses me privately about it, THE LAST THING i would do is open that shit on stream and shittalk the guy who accuses me. You guys are acting like this was a shock for riolu and how hard it must be for him, but who, please tell me who builds up a career that is completely based on one game and then decides to cheat in it??? in a community where people spend 30 hours on a track stuff like that is bound to come out. this is the dream scenario all over again

@---dy5ux

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavinander464 chill out and read again my message, what are you even talking about? I just pointed out why the chat was reacting that way. All evidence, now that the report is out, points against riolu. When he streamed we knew nothing and it all came as a big surprise because we trusted him. He will face appropriate consequences, the community doesn't need people spreading random hate.

@gavinander464

3 жыл бұрын

@@---dy5ux sorry, confused your reply with someone else's

I played a whole lot of Sunrise, United and TM² Canyon. I used multiple of the replays featured in this video as benchmarks. I looked up to riolu for a decade. I was so disappointed when I found out. He was so good at the game, it seemed too good to be true - and it was.

@panthermonium3845

3 жыл бұрын

he's definitely one of the best players in TM2020 and was one of the best in TM2S when that was the standard, but it's super disappointing to see that his NF records were cheated and even more disappointing to see that he didn't admit to it. it wouldn't have killed his career to have admitted cheating and then continued playing TM2020 professionally.

@fuce8930

3 жыл бұрын

Bro watch his VOD, maybe he didn‘t ...

@KeysLockhart

3 жыл бұрын

@@fuce8930 don't go there, there is no redemption for Riolu if he denies this and you aren't helping the situation by believing his lies.

@fuce8930

3 жыл бұрын

@@KeysLockhart dang dude, i didn‘t watch the whole video when i commented. I take it back, rioulu cheated, sad ...

@Djuncle

3 жыл бұрын

He is very good at the game though. He plays really well during the live tournaments. It's a shame and a waste that he cheated. Such a shame.

Great job with handling Riolu professionally. Keep up the great, unbiased videos!

Bro, the fact that Wirtual and riolu being friends is being used as an excuse for "snitching" is baffling. "Yes, but you see, I have known him for several years, so he obviously didn't kill those 5 people in cold blood and store them in my basement without my consent."

Babe wake up, new trackmania lore

@thelaw11

3 жыл бұрын

Babe wake up , 20 minutes of Wirtual content

@SirSangre

3 жыл бұрын

Babe wake up, Good youtube content

@AigisSSBM

3 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the riolu redemption arc

@nickramirez883

3 жыл бұрын

@Swellest watch the video. He was cheating

@sueyside-l3063

3 жыл бұрын

@@AigisSSBM He needs to grow up and evolve. A Lucario would never do these things.

Next video by Wirtual after the hiatus: Can you beat Trackmania Nations Forever WITHOUT Cheating?

@ClassicMiddleton

3 жыл бұрын

How I ACCIDENTALLY beat Trackmania Nations Forever without cheating, and got away with it!

@blessedkarl5764

3 жыл бұрын

"Can you beat trackmania in 140% speed?"

@daemonsoadfan

3 жыл бұрын

@@blessedkarl5764 Omg yes, it would be great actually

@FOWST

3 жыл бұрын

@@blessedkarl5764 loool

@FOWST

3 жыл бұрын

@@blessedkarl5764 200%

This video was done very professionally thank you for giving evidence,reasoning and disclaimers to back up your words

Riolu is kind of a snake for leaking dms to a Twitch chat, with the intent to manipulate people to his side while making fun of Wirtual in the process.

I learned about riolu from you a couple of weeks ago. I started watching his videos and even falling asleep under some, as they are quite long. Sad situation :(

@ElSenorEls

3 жыл бұрын

Same. FeelsSadMan

@illiavovchenko

3 жыл бұрын

Same shit (

@stajger832

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

@iNexisReal

3 жыл бұрын

exactly same

@N0rD1ck

3 жыл бұрын

Same with me, now i lost all respect for Riolu cause of his reply to all of this

I hate that riolu reacted in the way he did, if he would have just confessed I wouldn't be as disgusted as I feel now

@mattcelder

3 жыл бұрын

If only someone urged him to think carefully about the tone he spoke in, as it's just made things worse for him since the report came out.

@BarbitosLaSooS

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattcelder It's sad nobody did this, a good friend could have warned him about it to ensure the report doesn't end up being a shitstorm (also on a more serious note, imo Wirtual did a good job at not making this become a shitstorm, gg for that)

@pierrotA

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that most fans are so brind-washed, their would thrust their favorite player against all odds. It's like Dream. He clearly cheat and react with the same violence, but he still do millions of views. Most fans blindly refuse any accusation, it's sad but true.

@alpin2k7

3 жыл бұрын

Thats pretty much how all cheater react no matter what game. Its just the nature of a cheater. Pretend to not cheat, make it look as legit as possible.

@thomasgortemaker

3 жыл бұрын

@@alpin2k7 I think that's unfair to say, there were multiple players wirtual pointed out, that had confessed that they had been cheating without much trouble.

Speedruns are meant to show the dedication of players and world records are meant to show how far they have come, cheating just makes accomplishments worthless and creates distrust. I really wish people just wouldn't.

Wish every community had people like you how care so deeply about competetive integrity. Refreshing to see that you dont gatekeep. Great job

His inputs do be FLICKERING.

@SETHthegodofchaos

3 жыл бұрын

I bet he hates flickering even more now :S

@Evo-54

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@trevorsteyn8939

3 жыл бұрын

😅😅😅

Watching the chat as Riolu read the “blackmail” message was hilarious, dissing Wirtual who was just trying to help lol

@LordAJ12345

3 жыл бұрын

Idk about that. Even with all the context of this video and the full report, the "I'd urge you to think carefully about the tone you speak in" line still makes me want to puke. It makes me think of the most patronizing assholes I've come across in all my life.

@phishphan49

3 жыл бұрын

@@LordAJ12345 what else would you say to try to stop a friend from self distrusting? It was a carefully worded way of saying "please stop lying"

@valhunter97

3 жыл бұрын

@@LordAJ12345 Wirtual could've probably phrased it way better than he did, I agree. But it's still clear that it was warning, not a blackmail.

@gavinn.4060

3 жыл бұрын

@@LordAJ12345 true

@malts6774

3 жыл бұрын

@@LordAJ12345 would you try to be super nice to a "friend" you know is cheating, lying to you about it, and plans to go on stream to lie about it some more and make you look bad?

Så denne da den kom ut og nå er du på NRK! Veldig nice!

coming back to this video after 2 years already, jesus well, this man fucked around and found out

I appreciate the players like Techno, admitting and apologizing for this.

@nielskorpel8860

3 жыл бұрын

It is THE way to regain your credibility deservedly,... along with ceasing to cheat of course, inclusive.

@anurag4813

3 жыл бұрын

@@nielskorpel8860 absolutely!

@austinhua4911

3 жыл бұрын

@UC9VIQmB7r5uUaA8ZD8iCMaA no its just some guy called techno in the tm community

@michaelstudeny8848

3 жыл бұрын

It's kinda bittersweet really, but yes, it is what Riolu should have done aswell, especially with one of the largest fanbases in the TM community. Props to those who confessed. Had to be a tough pill to swallow, but cheating on records is a real dick move.

@BananenBoerBob

3 жыл бұрын

That took some serious maturity from his part. Never heard of the man before this video but a way better way to handle this than deny everything and hope the evidence doesn't stick. The only weird part about his statement is that he said he cheated to beat the other guy using his methods. That'd mean he knew of the cheating and how it was being done years before anyone else. Wonder how he found that out or if he just assumed he must've been cheating and did the same

It turns out that Wirtuals language and approach was justified, Riolu tried to make it seem bad out of context and basically emotionally manipulated his audience. Read the logs again now with the report out - Wirtual was giving him a heads up to come clean etc. and Riolu turned it into "my friend is blackmailing me!!!11" which it wasn't. This is also what the majority of the community think now after reading the whole report. Many were kinda turned against Wirtual by Riolus stream, but came back around after learning the truth and seeing Riolus manipulative approach to paint a picture before the report to save himself. But by doing that he only made the situation worse...

@polyaddict

3 жыл бұрын

This exactly. So well said

@ArcanumMortis98

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. Im quitting watching Riolus content exactly for that.

@liborkundrat185

3 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that Riolu was utterly fucked no matter what he'd do, and that him trying to smear Wirtual publicly didn't really matter at all.

@duartemad

3 жыл бұрын

@@liborkundrat185 sure made it worse... And wirtual didn't deserve to be treated like that. They were good friends.

@Ortorin

3 жыл бұрын

@@duartemad Cheating for so long would point to narcissistic/self-serving behavior. Wirtual probably wasn't Riolu's friend in Riolu's mind, just another "beneficial" relationship. To lie about his records for so long to a "friend" that he competes against? That's manipulative behavior.

It's funny how Riolu's chat is going "KEKW" "LULW" "LOL" -- well they're not anymore cause riolu hasn't even streamed in years.

Riulo is apologising in 200% slowmotion

Man, riolu was Wirtual's waifu for so long. when casting tournaments, you could hear straight up adoration for riolu in wirtual's voice. this must hurt so much.

@r3snaadille

3 жыл бұрын

I think all the respect for him is gone, so...

@gui1521

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, to be the one who has to expose his friend and idol, and being called a "fucktard" by him in front of thousands of viewers for doing so... Wirtual's really brave and set an example for integrity in gaming.

@ast5515

3 жыл бұрын

@@gui1521 Not just in gaming tbh. If he is willing to do this in game, that says a lot about him as a person. I generally don't have a lot of faith in humanity and it felt good seeing that Wirtual is committed to the truth.

@pablogutierrez5767

3 жыл бұрын

I know, I knew they were friends and this was honestly pretty sad to watch

@gui1521

3 жыл бұрын

@@ast5515 I know what you mean, we're in the "post-truth era" after all... Speaking the truth is becoming a political choice.

"I had a Dream" - Riolu

@shibuya4189

3 жыл бұрын

Dream- 1 out of 7 trillion chance

@Feldress

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@suncat530

3 жыл бұрын

I WAS WAITING FOR A REFERENCE LIKE THAT LMAO

@davryyy

3 жыл бұрын

forsenCD AM I DREAMING?

@Jerry-du1gj

3 жыл бұрын

​@@davryyy :v: forsenCD

Honestly sounds like his guilty conscience coming through, and trying to shift blame and guilt trip others into forgetting it. Keep up the good work, man.

@TheYeetedMeat

Жыл бұрын

Known as projecting.

"Be careful about the tone you speak in" "THAT'S BLACKMAIL IF I'VE EVER SEEN IT" So you've never seen blackmail before lmaoo

@Darthtanos

Жыл бұрын

i was thinking basically the same thing. how in the world is warning you about what you might say blackmail? it's trying to help you keep from making a bad situation even worse.

@Skelath

Жыл бұрын

If you look at it from Wirtuals point of view of Riolu saying he's going to make a statement live about the investigation and call out Wirtual the very person investigating him, basically Riolu using intimidation tactics to prevent to the report from being released, while at the same time claiming to be a victim.