Thanks for always giving us objective empirical data ❤️

Awesome video Alice!!!👏👏👏

I've also seen ophthalmologist warn about extreme eye dryness from the consistent use of prostaglandin analogs, so I'm with you on this one. I don't think it's worth the risk 😔

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Yup, and sadly there’s just not enough research on long term effects 😞

@oliviaspring9690

10 ай бұрын

Honestly it seems easier, and cheaper, to just buy a spoolie and apply some aloe vera or decent hair oil to the lashes.

@maddy3562

10 ай бұрын

I was using the Ordinary lash serum and it was really hard not to let it get into my eyes, i ended up getting dry eyes, (likely due to the serum, as it was the only change in my routine). My eyes were so bloodshot and uncomfortable. Thankfully my dry eyes are better since stopping the serum and medicated eye drops and eye balm, and it took 2 months for my eyes to look and feel normal again. I will only use this for my brows, but not on or around my lashes.

@SarahMcAshan

10 ай бұрын

Same here! I have Sjogren's Syndrome, so anything that even might increase dryness is not worth the risk to me. I also notice that some lash serums have benzalkonium chloride as a preservative, and that's super irritating to my clinically dry eyes.

@robertamandab7932

10 ай бұрын

I used Latisse and I got really bad dry eye and like these milia type white bumps along my eyelids and lash line. I was so sad but I had to quit using it.

I have been using The Ordinary for brows (I have a bald spot in my eyebrow; one of the indignities of aging). It has been working but takes a long time, like months. I try it on my lashes but not consistently enough to judge it. I really appreciated all of the info you gave us. Great job.

Excellent video. Very informative, I do not plan on using any of the products you shared. Thank you Alice.

Great video. My eyes were irritated within a day or two of using Grande lash. I just don't use any. I accept my lashes for what they are. Have a great week, Alice. ❌️ ⭕️

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

I like that mentality! Hope you have a great week too 🥰

@lisasmith7

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole 💕

TYSM for this video Alice!! Much appreciated 🩷🩷🩷 I’m using Korean brand Etude House lash serum

I loooved how my lashes looked while using Grandelash & Revitalash. But over time my eyes became extremely red, dry, irritated and tired. If I used the serum at night I could barely open my eyes in the morning. Also would get regular styes. Safe to say I had to stop & accept my natural lashes 🙃

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Oh wow, ouch! So sorry to hear that happened 😔

Thank you for the thorough video! I really needed to hear that. I go through phases of using Rapidlash(has prostaglandin) and LOVE the results every time and then regrets it because the wrinkles I get under my eyes 😢 it’s almost like an addiction 😅🤦🏻‍♀️ love your suggestion about using it occasionally for an event!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

I wish I could find the article I got that idea from. Until the time we get research on what’s going on with these, especially long term studies, it seems like the best option ☺️

To quote Back to the Future, “this is heavy.” I 💜 the commitment to the trials of different brands. (over 3 years 👏) I have received an offer from Latisse, but I definitely wanted more information. I do think that it's very interesting to include peptides in formulas, but I would like specific callouts for each peptide in regard to function. I think the benefit does not outweigh the risk for me. I have long curly lashes so I just focus on health from within. ✨ Thanks for sharing! ✨

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

I think that’s a smart plan, and I am glad you recognize that you have nice lashes to begin with! I actually started doubting whether mine were ever really “that bad” or if I just believed mascara commercials circa 2003 (sadly, probably that! 👀)

Such a good video!. I like The Ordinary lash serum and will continue to use it-even though as you said, it really isn’t a highly noticeable result. What I did get was a little bit of increase in thickness at the corners of my eyes where I had lost eyelashes now that I’m 60. I just mainly feel like it keeps my eyelashes healthy, and I lose far fewer than I did before I started using it.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Great video! I'm on my second tube of the Ordinary lash serum (bought 2 on sale) and it has done basically nothing. Revitalash, on the other hand, provided great results but was just too pricey. I think I'll stick with a lash primer and mascara as it works well enough for me.

Obviously the topic got me to click this video, the breadth of information you present got me to stay-but the ChubbyEmu shout out and “aspirin cuts off your COX” got you my subscription. 🎉🤝👍

Alice, thank you so much!! I’m going to throw out my lash serums. I have enough eye problems as it is, I don’t need to add inflammation and dry eye to it. Thank you for helping me save future money❣️ Have an amazing week ✨

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! I wish we had more long term research, but until we do..phew, it’s hard to say whether these are a good idea!

I've used prostaglandins to manage my glaucoma for a few years. They did make my bottom lashes longer and make lashes grow around my tear duct too, but I had to switch to a different medication after a few years because I developed an intolerance to them. My eye doctor said that's fairly common too, they are indeed known to be irritating.

I was so disappointed when I got a sample of one of these w prostaglandins and I immediately had a reaction. My lash line became swollen and red and after 24 hours I looked like I had gotten stung by a bee lol I guess the only silver lining is that I was fortunate enough to get a sample and I didn’t have to purchase it! I really wanted it to work for me because I’m terrible at applying falsies. this was really helpful in pointing out that it’s not really as great as it sounds long-term! (Another thing that’s fortunate is false lashes have gotten easier to apply!) i’m also so grateful to finally hear a review of the Olaplex!!!!! Looking at it I couldn’t justify spending the money without at least hearing people talk about it first because, like you said it’s not like hair I really didn’t know what something like this would do for my lashes! Anyway, another really fantastic video. Thank you so much for explaining all of this!

@Criticalbeauty411

10 ай бұрын

I totally forgot I tried to use the serum up in my eyebrows, but I kept forgetting to use it. I had no reaction there but the fat loss thing really freaks me out, even if it’s a very very long shot!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Oh gosh I’m so sorry to hear! Although yes, in a sense it really is a silver lining. I think the real problem here is that we don’t know what these do long-term. They work, yep! But…what happens after 5-10 years of use? Yeah the olaplex is nice, but whew that’s pricey!

My experience with The Ordinary serum and the one from Romand (Han All Lash Serum): I lost a chunk of lashes a few months ago. I was just curling my lashes one day and a whole half inch section just decided to jettison off my eyelid. No pain, no excessive pulling, no warning. So I started to use the Romand lash serum directly on my lashes and The Ordinary serum on my lash line and, while they may have helped somewhat with regrowth, the biggest thing I've noticed is much less fallout, especially when I curl my lashes. I was never expecting them to give me longer darker lashes but, like you mentioned, the lashes I do have "feel" healthier.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

😰😰 that is one of my biggest fears, oh noooo Glad to hear it’s helping though! I really do feel “restoration” is a good word to describe what those serums seem to do best.

@Esoteraeon

9 ай бұрын

How are your lashes doing now with this combo? I'm going to try it!

Great video 🥰🥰

I used Latisse and was so in love with the way my lashes grew, I failed to notice how red and irritated my eyes were. A friend had to point it out. 😢😢❤

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Aw oh no! You understand me though. Those lashes are ~distracting~ (from…inflammation and such 😅)

@celiareed1402

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole I totally understand you! One day I’ll do an Alice and try fake lashes!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

😁💕

First up - i was super excited for this one and you did not dissapoint :D secondly i have an idea: For the leftover the ordinary lash serum. use it on one eye only - then once you are done with the bottle you will know for sure if it does enough :D also now i am kinda wondering about the scalp equivalent: rogaine vs the ordinary multi-peptide serum for hair density (or some other over the counter hair serum)

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

I hate how good of an idea this is All right. I’m keeping my falsies around just in case I end up walking around looking lopsided 🤣😂 (thanks for the suggestion!)

@amyamy8177

10 ай бұрын

if you do end up looking lopsided i will 100% buy the ordinary lash serum O.o@@AliceintheRabbitHole

Hi Alice and thanks for the video. I've seen several videos on this now (an ophthalmologist and at least three derms) and now yours and I'd be inclined to just stick to mascara. Though the magnetic lashes intrigue me...

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

YUP, nothing wrong with good ol’ mascara! And these days, there are so many very, very good affordable options!

Hi Alice, great informative video, thx! 2 things: (1) u look especially fabulous, healthy and glowing today! (2) try Reviv Lash/brow Serum… prosta/prota analogs-free and did wonders for me!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! ☺️

I am using lash serum from Korean brand Rom&nd. I wont make you lashes grow like grande lash, but makes them thicker, stronger and healthier

very informative...thank you

I use FEG Serum on both eyelashes and brows. I put it on after I cleanse face, then put on both eyelashes. Then I put it on again after cleansing face at night. I've never had any problems with FEG! Try it and see how you look after 60 days. My hair color is blonde, but when I put FEG Serum on lashes/brow, I can definitely see the growth. I've NEVER had any problems with FEG!! Give it a try!😊

thanks for your info. My only worry about the ordinary lash serum is the last ingredient, Chlorphenesin ive read is also a prostaglandin inhibitor :/ not seen much info on this however so still dont think ill use it. The other eyelash serums i used actually did droop my eyes

Thank you. So useful…

something I've noticed is that using eye creams with peptides seem to help my lashes look a bit longer and fuller so I believe the ordinary serum could have noticeable results for me. The body shop have also recently launched an eyelash serum with peptides :)

I always had nice eyelashes until the "big m" (menopause) struck and I found myself with diddly little stumps. After all the other symptoms this was the final straw. I wasn't having it! I've been using Revitalash since February and love my lashes again. I do get the occasional flare up of reaction every now and then but i think it's getting less as I get used to it. I'd say I've lost some fat from above my eyes but in my case that's not such a bad thing because I have hooded eyes and the hoodedness seems less. I dont think I'll ever stop using Revitalash and I'll sleep on the street before I give it up! 😂 Anyway, the best thing of all - I was worried about getting ripped off and the product not working. I stated doing research online and indirectly found you!! Hurrah! ❤❤❤ Kind of hoping The Ordinary hair peptide stuff restores my thinning hair... one can but hope... sigh.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Oh dear, I am SO glad you mentioned this as it’s something I forgot. One of the many articles I read spoke with an ophthalmologist, and they did say there may be an unspoken benefit thus far for hooded lids! Granted, it’s still important to watch for inflammation (do you think it might be that in the act of getting used to it, you managed the application better? Meaning could it be a dose-dependent sensitivity?)

@MsWalkaLot

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole I may have got better at applying it and not getting it on my skin but I do think I'm building up a tolerance. Probably not a good thing but I can't give "Big M" my eyelashes... I can't!

I will never use another lash serum, no matter what ingredients. I had mutant lashes growing in weird places! I used a faux-high end (high retail price but unknown brand, popular with subscription boxes, prob just intended to be drugstore price point) lash serum from ipsy, whose ingredients indicated it was just an oil moisturizer. I have too many lashes but it's not cute (2-3 lines of them, and many go in weird directions, they always hook my lower lashes or poke my eye), but i figured it would make a nice moisturizer for my eye area. Oh my! I grew two bizarre lashes, one noticeably higher than my lash line, the other eyelash GREW UNDER THE TOP LAYER OF MY SKIN. Fortunately, both 'died' and went away after i threw it out. I dont know what was really in that serum, but i am now very suspicious of all of them.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

😱😱 well that sounds like quite the experience!! Thank you for sharing

I used Lilash for a couple years around 2018/2019 and had the same experience, initially I loved my longer lashes but ended up with a darkened and irritated lashline. Thankfully it went away after I stopped using it!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Oh wow yep, sounds like we had the same story! I’m glad to hear the irritation went away. I’m grateful mine did too, as I admit I started to panic for a bit there (took a few months for my lash line to fully bounce back 😰)

That’s so interesting that you mentioned The Ordinary might not do much if you don’t need it, because I’ve observed the same thing. I used Ordinary on my lashes for several months and it made my lower lashes, which were always kind of sparse, noticeably filled in and longer. But it didn’t make a noticeable difference to my upper lashes, which were already decently long/dense. Ordinary has worked amazingly well on my brows too. As for Grande, I used it on my brows for probably a year and it didn’t seem to do anything. However I’ve been using GrandeLash on my lashes for a few months and I see noticeable results on both my upper and lower lashes. I haven’t had any irritation or odd hair growth yet. I have dry eyes but neither serum has seemed to make it any worse. Even though I love having longer lashes, I’ve decided that once I finish this tube of GrandeLash I’m going to stop using any lash serum because I’m worried about long term side effects around my eyes. My upper lashes are naturally decent and I work from home so no one is around to enjoy my long lashes with me anyway. However, I will keep using Ordinary on my brows.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing! Can I ask if it was a similar situation for your brows, or did it do more for them? (I haven’t tried anything for my brows, oddly enough!)

@Arbee1000

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole The Ordinary is working really well on my brows. I apply it morning and night and my brows are noticeably more filled in. GrandeBrow didn’t seem to do much, if anything, for my brows! (Also interesting is that GrandeLash and GrandeBrow have the exact same ingredients in the same order, yet they’re sold in different size tubes with different prices.)

@robertamandab7932

10 ай бұрын

Is the formula the same for the Grande lash and the brow serums?

@Arbee1000

10 ай бұрын

@@robertamandab7932 Yes, when I compared the ingredients between GrandeLash and GrandeBrow, the ingredients were exactly the same, in the same order. The only difference I can tell is that they come with different brush tips and different amounts of product.

@robertamandab7932

10 ай бұрын

@@Arbee1000 okay. Thank you

Great content Alice! Thank You. I may add that I've been using neuBrow serum on my eyebrows for ~ 2 yrs, & brows became thicker lush and dark. I'm in my late 50s so historically speaking I've had beautiful dark thick lashes and brows all my life - then menopause arrived. NeuLash also has serum for eye lashes - I used it as well & it works. Due to eye irritation I stopped using it, then I read an article about side effects on the eye. So, I use the lash serum on my brows (have 2 tubes of it). Your thoughts Alice?

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

So funny enough, that’s actually harder for me to answer. Since the original use was eye-related, there’s even less research on the impact on the brow area! That said, I’m seeing comments from people who report no issues with PA-containing lash serums. So I guess it could come back down to: if it’s working out for you, personally?

@hosaisg8758

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole thanks dearest! I also appreciate your scientific references. I myself am a scientist, chemist, pharmacist, therefore I look at claims differently just like yourself. Sending you love & blessings Alice. 💐🙏

I used to use Latisse for a year. My lashes did get longer but, after hearing all of the negative effects people were getting I stopped. However, I never had any negative results.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing! It’s a shame that we don’t have more data from folks who have used these long term. It would be SO helpful!

Long term inflammation. Falling lashes. Per-orbital fat loss. Spooky Season is here for real, because this is a horror story! Thank you for the nuanced discussion of the research and case reports. These products are simply not worth the risk to me, even though my lashes are thinning with age and long-term autoimmune eye disease. Side note: that lip color is fantastic, and I like the soft-matte finish.

It just seems too risky around my eyes. The thought of growing lashes out of my tear ducts really creeps me out too. One surprising benefit of Tretinoin for me has been a huge improvement in my poor, overplucked eyebrows from the early 2000s. It's really noticeable since I got into the higher percentages, I'm at .14% now. Sadly no benefits for my eyelashes, lol.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Oh interesting! Thank you for sharing ☺️

I accidentally discovered a brow product that works with no side effects on me--the Bare Minerals Strength and Length brow gel, which has a combo of Acetyl Tetrapeptide-3 and Red Clover extract (together known as Capixyl in the trade). I got the gel because Lisa Eldridge recommended it as a good brow gel, and 2 months later I looked in the mirror and couldn't tell whether I'd filled in my brows or not! My brows were not thicker than they'd ever been, mind you, just thicker than they were--say, they went back in time about a decade's worth? Also, I'd started getting a few hairs with no color, like platinum/silver, and I no longer have those; my old color is restored for some reason. I assume the pale hairs reached the end of their lives, fell out, and the replacements grew back with color (which on me is red/blonde/light brown--redheads don't have solid red brows!) I tried their mascara from the same Strength and Length line, and while it was non-irritating, I noticed no difference in my lashes. I don't wear mascara every day anymore though, so that could be it.

If possible, you can try the SWEED lash serum, a brand from Sweden. Ingredients are completely natural and so far I have heard many good reviews.

I used Babe Lash (another prostaglandin-analog serum) for 3-4 months last year, and did see significant results. I was a little unsettled by the reports of side effects, and I already have eye issues - contact wearer, seasonal allergies, chronic dry eye (treated with prescription drops) - so I decided not to continue it despite the fact that I hadn't had any side effects. I decided to try The Ordinary's serum instead, and it didn't work miracles, but it seemed to help me retain the lash fullness I got from the other serum. My eyes have been really irritated this summer (probably from the Canadian wildfires 😥), so I haven't used the serum regularly in months, and honestly, I haven't noticed that much of a difference. I'm easing into using it again, mainly just to see if it does anything, but Lash Princess is a safer bet, right?

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

So sorry to hear your eyes have been irritated. Those wildfires have been awful 😞 But yep, good ol’ lash princess works! Thank you for sharing your experience

I used grande lash for several months and started to see hair growing on the top of my cheek bones. Very strange.

i now you just did a deepdive but i am curious about barrier repair - what can actually restore/improve the barrier and what are gimmicks? (i assume ceramides, urea, madecassoside and panthenol would work) but i find the topic interesting particularly because so many people are trying to tolerate actves and incorporate barrier repair to do so and i am just wondering what a good scientific approaxh would actually be :D

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

In short, they all have limited research supporting their efficacy (kinda applies to skincare as a whole, save certain well established ingredients ie tret/bha). The catch seems to be figuring out what your skin responds best to aaaand the best formulations.

Perfect timing … I was just thinking of buying this …wow … it’s a no ! thank you a million … I was noticing my eyebrows falling out I think I got my retinol too close I put my tretnoin on my upper eyelid on accident it was burning 🥵 idk I just started that CosRx peptide serum I’m like what in that would cause my eyebrows to fall out 🤣 I hope it stops I have super over plucked brows that don’t grow in anyway … how would these make hair grow? Do they do that? I was gonna try castor oil maybe … any advice 🤍🤍🤍🍀🍀🍀🪴🪴🪴

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Hmm so you’re thinking the tret could be correlating with brow loss? I’ve heard a few people report that, although I’m not sure on where that stands from a research perspective. What you could do is: apply Vaseline around your brows before the tret. That might help by preventing absorption (same principle in applying Vaseline to sensitive areas pre-retinoid). It’s a good idea to check with your doctor too. Hair loss is a sign that something is off, but the cause can be one of MANY different reasons.

(Off topic)) Have you tried the new formulation of Laniege cream skin?? I’m so upset to see they changed it lol haven’t tried the new one I almost don’t want too because the old one is just so perfect already. If you tried it what’re your thoughts ?? If not are you planning on it? Also love this video !! Don’t know too much about lash serums people always told me (with mascara) my lashes look pretty long but I used to wear false lashes so I never thought my lashes were as long as I always wanted them to be.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

I haven’t, although I’ve been meaning to! It looks like it might be an upgrade, but I also know the story of loving an older formulation. I hope it’s still nice!! 🥺

@rhileynnna

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole me too! I’ve heard they’ve tried to cater to more skin types & they just ended up making it less moisturizing :(

I have a friend who grew amazing lashes by using castor oil. So I’m going to try that.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

I’m curious about castor oil too! Seems a lot of folks swear by it

@innerview6298

3 ай бұрын

Yes it worked for my friend, she just removed her eye make up with castor oil for years and got huge lashes. It just takes twice as long, atleast 4 months to see some results, but people who has used for years they have really thick and long lashes + skin around the eyes are smooth.

At age 50 and in the depth of menopause you lose hair for me it was under my arms ..my head and eyelashes my dermatologist started me on lattise I used it everyday for six months with fantastic results then I switched to lattise two nights a week and caster oil the others ….nineteen years no side effects beautiful thick eyelashes

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing! I deeply hope researchers seek out folks like you, who have plenty of experience with these products. It’s time we figure out why these seem to work great for some, and not so great for others!

Thanks for this info. I was about to try Revive lash and brow. Please help. I don’t know if it works but I hear it’s great but that’s what they all say. 🙏🏻💕

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

It absolutely works! But be aware of the risks (as well as the lack of long term research)

@sandrarogolino6456

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole Thanks Alice. I can’t find any risks with this particular one. Maybe I’m not looking enough.

@littledoo

10 ай бұрын

@@sandrarogolino6456 So many lash names that start with R 🤪 but Reviv (no e) doesn’t have prostaglandins. I was thinking of trying it since I’ve used prostaglandins for years and years.🫤

Alice, have you looked into Gothamista's essence collab with sora de rue? It's ginseng based but no alcohol or added perfume. I'm super curious but it's $$.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

I have! I would like to try it, hoping I can find the time to in the future

I've been using Latisse for 5+ years (about every other day) and haven't experienced any side effects. I would definitely stop if I did, though.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Yo uso olaplex y me va muy bien, no me reseca, no me arde y se ven saludables.

i wonder how grande lash would work on eyebrows, would it have as many risks? idk but the experiences ive read in the comments are definitely keeping me suspicious of the reward vs risks

I would love to know how you feel about using these products in your eye brows.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Sadly I’ve yet to try anything on my brows (oddly enough!) - hypothetically, they could serve the same functions around the brows though

If it’s unopened it makeup and skincare is for a while. The expiration date is good how ever many months it says it’s good upon the day of opening the product which lets bacteria and air into the product thus making it go bad faster theoretically. But if it smells bad of off throw it out.

Hallo Alice, I am using the ordinary lash and brow serum and cosmetic grade caster oil. I actually have seen a difference after 3 months. I just want it to help I don't expect miracles. When I heard Lisa from Lisa Monique beauty saying she uses grande lash and doesn't mind the darking around eyes and brows I was nope! I have dark circles from being a celiac and crohns and milk allergy that I hate I was nope don't want that. I watched James Welch do a video on this too, that was enough too for me to pass.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Oh wow, thanks for sharing! Can I ask how you combine the two? (Like TO first, then the castor oil?)

@tamizilla

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole sure, at the start of evening skincare routine I put the ordinary lash brow serum on then I start routine ending with moisturizer. Then I wait about an hour before I put on my chia seed oil on face and then with a set of lash brushes ( mascara type and liner ) tube set I can put cosmetics caster oil ( I only put a little bit in, every few weeks I clean and sanitize) and I go to sleep. I have been doing this for a year now. If not clear please tell me.

@tamizilla

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole if you want I can dm you a picture of set.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Sure!

Do u think if I use niacinamide booster mixing with my moisturizer this will make me see good results?? Or it is a waste of Money when mixing boosters

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

You could try it? Niacinamide is a pretty flexible ingredient, so mixing typically works (in your hands before applying, not together in a jar) Sometimes mixing can impact certain ingredients though. Tbh your best bet might be to write Paula’s choice (iirc?) and ask if they think it’s a good idea!

SHARING FACTS. Prostaglandin free lash serums are a waist of time because it doesn't prevent the lash fall out phase which is something you can't prevent. It's just something that naturally happens to everyone. In order to prevent your lashes from falling out and to keep your new long lash growth results. You need a lash serum that has a prostaglandin in it. Prostaglandins prevent the lash fall out phase!

Every time I used Latisse/Careprost, I woke up with crusty, itchy eyes and that red puffy line at the lashes. Inflammation is absolutely an issue. :\

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

😱😱

Can i use grande lash serum for the brows???

@Stunterclips

3 ай бұрын

Olaplex actually started selling a brow serum recently!

I have tried three different lash growth serums, all of them leave my eyes dry and irritated.

CASTOR OIL, cheap, for natural long, healthy lashes

Hi Alice ❌️⭕️

Is it true that copper peptides Can cause cancer when using in skincare products

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Hmm I think you might be thinking of growth factor peptides? Those are purported to be mitogenic, not mutagenic - meaning they may facilitate tissue growth (hence the name), but they don’t cause mutations (ie the development of cancer). That said, as a precaution, it’s recommended not to use growth factors if you have or suspect you may have skin cancer. Hope that helps!

@demianaemad8497

10 ай бұрын

​@@AliceintheRabbitHoleis copper peptide considered a growth factor?

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

No they’re very different

but we do tint our lashes sometimes, so olaples ftw

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I had constant eye itching, irritation, and recurring styes. No fun! Definitely not worth it!

NOOOOOOOOO!

I’ve used a prostaglandin analog for 10+ years. I personally haven’t observed any Periorbital fat loss beyond what is normal between the ages of 40 and 50. Dude, the tear duct hair though…. tweezer a girl here, too. Ouch!!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience! Tbh we need researchers to round up those of you who have stuck with it for a long period of time. It’s one of those things that I’m shocked hasn’t already happened!

@LoveMyGSDs

10 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole it’s pretty ridiculous that it hasn’t happened. There are a whole lot of us who haven’t had any negative side effects so we’ve just kept using them……

I got the lash extensions about 7 or 8 years ago. Disaster . I looked like a rabbit 🐇 so I used grande lash to grow them back out. I just bought babe lash about 3 or 4 weeks ago. Alot of people are seeing crazy results with spoiled child hair skin nails lashed so I'm thinking about that . And alot of people swear by black Jamaican castor oil. We do alot of falsies for events parties weddings etc. Easy to get them on elissa. Hard to do it myself lol

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Yes it does seem many swear by castor oil! I’m curious myself 🤔

So I just want to make a couple of points. If you are still unsure about how you feel about these, let me tell you a little story; I had been using the babe lash growth serum and really didn't have any issues with it but hated the fact that I had to keep using it and I read that the ordinary lash serum was healthier because it only uses peptides. Well one day I was in a huge rush and I applied my lash serum. I noticed within a couple hours my I was extremely irritated and I had remembered that earlier I had experienced some weird discoloration in my eye. At that point I should have rinsed my eyes. Long story short the next morning at 5 a.m. I woke up at in such extreme discomfort that I started crying and moaning. I couldn't close my eyes or keep them open because of the pain. Thank God I was able to get someone in my house to help me. I woke up my mom and she took me to the emergency room. They ended up saying am I was extremely irritated. LOL, no s***. They gave me some steroid eye drops and within 30 minutes I started to feel better. I am sending the ordinary the bill for this. Apparently I'm not the only one that has had issues with the serum. I still have a huge red mark in my eye that you would take me from time to time. I will say that babe lash worked pretty well for me. I also didn't have much irritation from it.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

10 ай бұрын

Oh wowww. I am so sorry that happened to you!! 😱😱 Have you had any communication with TO since this happened? Would love to know what they have to say 👀