My husband is a Floridian w lots of deep lines from many days out in the sun. He started using this about six weeks ago. It took about this much time for me to begin to see a difference. His lines were sooo deep. And now I’m beginning to see his lines soften and face brighten. It’s definitely working for him!!!

@Lulu-kt6gr

3 ай бұрын

Which brand? My guy is the same.

@carolmaplesden916

3 ай бұрын

which one please

@PM-gy4dn

Ай бұрын

Please tell us the brand

i've worked extensively in microbiology and biotechnology labs as a masters student back in the day ,and we used get a lot of peptides, enzymes, and other bioactive things like cell lines, viruses, etc, in labs to practice on. Problem with peptides is they're not stable and generally degrades within hours at room temperature. They could be kept stable in normal fridge for few days to weeks. For long storage these things are stored at -20 C in special freezers and some even at -80 C, and these equipments are super expensive, if there was really a way of keeping these things nice and fresh at room temperature or even in normal fridges, we would definitely be taught that, I'm not a cosmetic chemist but I don't think these peptides are doing anything in skincare, they're probably mostly denatured at this point sitting on shelves for days, whatever is left of em is providing hydrating.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Interesting, thank you for sharing! Yeah, I commented this elsewhere but with peptides, I figure it’s best practice to assume they act as humectants. There MAY be extra benefits, but until we have conclusive evidence, I wouldn’t drop tons of cash on them for those benefits (for example, the “Botox in a bottle” claims - interesting theory, quite iffy in practice!)

@bethradke302

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!

@grf123

9 ай бұрын

@AliceintheRabbitHole maybe some peptides don't denature or chemists have tricks. Science is so vast that everybody in the field doesn't know everything. There are hundreds of streams. Botox peptides seem like total bs, Botox address muscle component of aging which is totally different from skin component of aging, how is anything going through the skin and into the muscle at precise points to make an effect. Botox is injected at extremely precise points on muscles to achieve a lifted look, doing if in inncorect place can have bad results like swallowing issues and druppy eyes etc

@patmandolla1806

9 ай бұрын

I read somewhere that they shouldn't be in the refrigerator.

@catherinelynnfraser2001

9 ай бұрын

Thank you. I am super suspect about the claims. Humectants are good but false promises are bad.

I love the blue look for the copper peptide video.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Thank you! I got into the theme 😆

I’ve been using the peach and Lily for a little over a month now and I am a little over halfway through the bottle. I thought it was just in my head in the first week or two but now that it’s been a little over a month of consistent use, I can definitely see a difference. My skin looks brighter, bouncer, more plump. I’m shocked at the difference it has made and I decided to order the ordinaries version because it was on sale today for their November sale. I figured $23 is a good price to see how it compares to the peach and Lily. I like peptides, copper in particular, because it seems to be that you can get a lot of the benefits of a lot of skin care ingredients, but with minimal irritation.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Yep, I think they have a great product there! Albeit my theory is that it’s the full formula vs merely the copper peptide. It has SO much going on lol!

@Hiiiiiiiiieeee

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole I totally agree. All those different extracts were pretty impressive. The mushroom and watermelon and all that jazz. I might go back to it if I feel like the ordinary one isn’t quite the same. But I couldn’t turned down trying it for $23. Although I did just hit platinum with Ulta so I’ll definitely be looking for those extra deals. I know this is a random question, but do you have any suggestions for make up brands that would be good for sensitive skin? I’m newly getting into dabbling with make up and I’ve always had very sensitive skin and eyes. Colorpop seems to be OK, but I’m wondering if there’s a specific brand that might be Formulated better for sensitive people. Thanks for all your hard work, lots of us really appreciate your informative and entertaining content.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Oh that’s a great question! Do you have a preference in what you’re looking for? Because my brain immediately went to bareminerals (that’s been their “thing” for a long time) - but their makeup is a lot more subdued than Colourpop. A few more options that come to mind: Haus Labs (check for allergens as she uses extracts, but my skin actually loves her products). Joah (a “K-Beauty inspired” drugstore brand - bizarrely underrated actually). That covers a few price points/styles, but let me know if you’re thinking of something else!

@Hiiiiiiiiieeee

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole I’ve actually been really interested in Haus labs! I’ll have to give them a try when I can catch a good sale. And I’ll definitely check out the K beauty brand you mentioned. That’ll give me a good excuse to place a YesStyle order soon. I mostly wear eyeshadows and highlighter at the moment. Haven’t delved into foundation or concealer for fear of buying the wrong shades and you know how us Americans are with returning things 😅😂 but those Haus labs ones do look fantastic. And I have a Sephora very close so it should be easy to try to find my shades. Thanks for the suggestions!

I always appreciate your perspective of the science, because it's so easy to get influenced by marketing and premature claims. I used an entire bottle of The Ordinary Buffet with copper peptides and while maybe my skin wasn't "ugly" it definitely wasn't better in any way! So now I'm very reluctant to try any copper peptides again, and will maybe wait until more is known. Thank you for taking on the topic!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, it’s also baffling to see the few studies kind of…stretched. More research is needed for sure!

Like others said, "Knights who say Niod" made my day. I bought the Niod serum because I felt that 50% off for a product that so many raved about was something I couldn't pass up. Then I saw this video pretty much right after I bought it, and I got concerned that I'd made a mistake by purchasing it (I'm worried about "the uglies" lol). It's especially frustrating because I'd been seriously considering the Peach and Lily one, but chose the Niod instead because so many said it was the best. Oh well, at least when I use it I can say I'm a Knight who says Niod lol!

LOVING your dedication to the Video with the blue wig, blouse and eyes!

This was very helpful thank you Alice! Ahhh, to have Peach & Lily in Canada (shipping+conversion gets expensive). Would you consider doing an updated video like this one on retinoids? I think most of us know about the different types of retinoids and, in general, how they work in the skin, but I think a more niche or specific video would be cool - like, addressing claims it thins the skin over time, fat loss claims in a minority of people, collagen vs elastin, these kinds of things :)

@Stephanie-nf9hl

9 ай бұрын

Try NIOD CAIS, it's 50% off in Nov

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

It is about time for that, isn’t it! Thanks for the suggestion ☺️

Love the blue wig! Such a pretty color. And as always, great content. 😁

So impressed as always with your deep dives! And just in time to talk me out of getting wrapped up in a NIOD sale :P

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Happy to help! ☺️

This is such good timing! The Deciem sale just started and Niod’s copper peptides is 50% off but it’s still expensive so I need the help and clarity rn! 😅 💙

@Kendralovesskincare

9 ай бұрын

Omg!! Is it 50% off!!?? I thought it was like 25... I might have to try it for that much off. What a great deal! Their are few Niod products in tempted to try out during their sale. Ty for the heads up🥰

@Criticalbeauty411

9 ай бұрын

@@Kendralovesskincare it is for the month of November! It’s Only the copper peptide products, everything else is 23% off but I noticed this a few hours ago and it definitely got my attention!

Thank you for finally clearing up the Vitamin C issue! I've been so confused over whether it's just ascorbic acid that's bad to use it with or all the Vitamin C derivatives, as well. Now I know! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Oh Alice… there r so many reasons why i love you and think you r fabulous… wearing blue on ur body, face and hair for a video on copper is yet one more reason to add to the very long list, you rule girl!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

🥰🥰

This morning I was trying to decide whether to try The Ordinary’s or NIOD’s copper peptide serums, because of the Slow November sale. I was looking at Peach and Lily’s copper peptide serum. I have mature, dry skin and rosacea. I have a couple of areas where lines and wrinkles are concerning me a little. On the other hand I don’t want to omit all of my skincare to use a copper peptide serum because I have had good results with what I am using. Thank you for an enlightening discussion. I am disappointed that there are not good double blind studies with a significant number of humans using different concentrations of copper peptides and different formulations of other peptides of note. I still haven’t decided whether to try the NIOD version. PS: Kelley Driscoll recently reviewed the Peach and Lily Copper Peptide serum and discussed what each one of the additional peptides do. It was very interesting to me.

@F.R.F937

9 ай бұрын

Theramid from niche beauty does a 3% Copper, 30ml or 50ml...

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

It was so strange to discover that given how much we hear about copper peptides! And yeah, it does contribute to a tough call. Wish I could help more, but that’s where we are!

Perfect timing for posting this video given the 50% off sale of copper peptide serum/lipid at NIOD!

I'm using the needleless serum by dermatology. I believe it has copper peptides, anyway I'm loving it because it makes my skin so soft! Lots of goodies in it.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

That is a good one! And yes agreed, it has a lot going on vs only CP - the way to go IMHO ☺️

@Kendralovesskincare

9 ай бұрын

This one has been on my wishlist for SO LONG!! I really need to try it!

@aprilneilson1163

9 ай бұрын

@@Kendralovesskincare the needleless serum is really nice.

@pamorama

9 ай бұрын

That’s one of my favorite serums of all. It’s just a mainstay in my routine. I wasn’t even aware that it had copper peptides.

@aprilneilson1163

9 ай бұрын

@pamorama look at the ingredients to make sure.

Last year I got the Ordinary’s copper peptides during the sale and I used it heavily after my TCA peels (I do 1/month in the winter). It really helped my skin recover.

Whatever you’re using your skin looks amazing in this vid!

Yay the CP video. I just ordered the Niod CP they are 50% off unheard of sale and the other stuff is 23% off from Niod and the ordinary. I still plan to try the PL one too. I just started liking the buffet serum it's one that had to grow on me .

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s what I was thinking! I feel like I’ve never seen that kind of sale Have you tried the niod before?

@heathersargent289

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole I haven't tried the Niod CP yet but ordered it, but love the SMD mist the survival 0 and Modulating Glucoside serum . I use the SMD mist everyday and Pennsmith said she is gonna start using it with LED mask she thinks it will be great. She made a recommendation video today and said that in it. I also think I want to order the Fractunated eye serum I have heard amazing things about that product too . I had never order the CP serum cause it's so expensive and durning the sale for 23% it usually sells out but I definitely snagged it and people swear by it so I really wanted to try . Ulta has the 10$ off 50$ right now that could be a good time to get the PL serum and like a nyx lipliner or something lol that equals 50$ . I do hate the smell of the buffet serum it smells like vinager yuck 🤮 but I feel like when I finally gave it a chance it gave good results .

Love the blue/turquoise hair nod to both copper and Halloween.

Here's my experience... Throughout the last year or two, I've been using Tretinoin, Copper Peptides, Vit C and Niacinamide (plus moisturizers and spf). Since most of the information I found said it's ok to use them all, even on the same day, I've been mixing them. Most of the time I'd let products sink in for 10-15min before applying the next layer. So I'd do Tretinoin, then Vit C, then moisturizer. Or Tretinoin, then Copper peptides, then Niacinamide, then moisturizer... In the first 6 months or so, my skin kept looking better and better! And I was getting compliments constantly. And then it felt like it just had enough and started always being red, irritated and looking worse. Now I separate my products by day. Day 1 - Tretinoin + Barier Support Serum + Azelaic acid in silicone + spf Day 2 - Copper Peptides + Niacinamide + simple moisturizer/spf Day 3 - Tretinoin + Barier Support Serum + Azelaic acid in silicone + spf Day 4 - Vit C in Vit E + Vit C heavy night cream + Vit C spf Day 5 - Tretinoin + Barier Support Serum + Azelaic acid in silicone + spf etc... This works perfectly for me! My skin has time to breathe and I feel like I'm getting all the benefits of actives.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

6 ай бұрын

“Skin cycling” as they call it (🤣 nevermind the fact that skincare enthusiasts have been doing this for years before TikTok named it lol!) Thanks so much for sharing. I do something very similar myself!

I didn't see that much difference with the buffet copper peptide from TO tbh... Now I'm using the copper peptide serum from Niche Beauty Lab (Theramid), it's 3% and my skin absolutely loves it ! I see an effect on my pores and my redness, almost gone !

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing!

Thanks for the information, I've repurchased TO CP a few times and used it 1-2 times per week for over a year, without noticing it did much except maybe help with healing acne breakouts if i happened to have one. So I ordered Niod which I'll be starting soon. I may try Peach&Lily next. Also it took me until midway through the video when you discussed the blue color of CP that I made the connection you were dressed in blue for it, nice! 💧

I got mg Niod Cail today. My first use was amazing. My skin looked brighter and smooth. And half price it's also now patented. I love it. I'd buy more but the expiry dates are less than a year.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing, and adding the expiration info! Really appreciate that ☺️

I've been using The Ordinary version for a few months now, and at first I had the same reaction as your partner; I smelled a metallic, almost blood-like scent from the copper, but I quickly stopped noticing it. BTW love ❤ the lipstick or gloss you're wearing, I want it myself!!! Also, thanks for the info on screen, i took screen caps to read at my leisure!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

It’s blood-like!? Oh my! See idk, sometimes I feel like…I might be happy with my “not finely tuned” nose LOL. Thank you for sharing ☺️

@shannonmaunder7904

9 ай бұрын

​@AliceintheRabbitHole I'm just happy I can't smell it anymore, I'm used to it. Otherwise I would have ditched it for that reason.

@smilingismyfavorit

9 ай бұрын

Interesting comparison, I can see that since blood smells/tastes like iron (like when you bite your tongue) and the copper has that same metallic scent. The smell doesn't bother me (though it's unpleasant) but I can see how people can find that off-putting... could trigger like a visceral nausea for people more sensitive.

Proof is in the pudding, people. I’ve been peptiding for quite a few years now and they have been unquestionably helpful.

@PinCushionQueen

9 ай бұрын

It’s a long distance runner for sure!

This was so helpful! It’s so hard trying to read through marketing and figure out what’s going on with some of the stuff! I was healing from a surgery about two years ago so I decided to try the Niod copper peptides. I bought two bottles… I feel like it’s a good way to test copper peptides as an isolated ingredient, but I genuinely have no idea if it did anything to improve my skin (I used it all over my face) After that, I decided to try the ordinary and peach and lily. I LOVED the peach and lily but like you said, I kind of suspect that I would’ve loved it just as much without the copper peptides. Now I’m actually trying Dr Pickart’s super cop. Genuinely because it was more affordable than replacing the other two that I like and I definitely like this least because it actually makes my skin turn blue lol. Anyway, there is part of me that wants to incorporate it because I feel like I don’t know for sure that it’s not helping lol but I do feel like my money would be better spent investing in something like the peach and lily that has other benefits that are more guaranteed! The Niod was nice and absorbed quickly but if two bottles didn’t show me anything noticeable I’d be silly to purchase a third certainly unless or until more research comes out!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Oh wow this was so helpful, thank you for sharing your experience! Yeah I was thinking about it and realized that with the way Ulta does sales, p&l could actually be the best value - I’m not upset at all that it ended up my fav 😆

@Criticalbeauty411

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole oh for sure!! I’m so happy they’re at Ulta!!

NIOD is doing 50% off of their CAIS3 formula. If you liked the peach and lily I think you will LOVE the NIOD version. imo it is cut above all other copper peptides on the market. incredible formula.

@ainakunigelyte

9 ай бұрын

hey ! what results did you see? any firming? I am so afraid of this potential sagging. how long are you using it and do you apply daily?

@ninjaturtles12121

9 ай бұрын

@@ainakunigelyte under my eyes I have fine lines and this made a difference in softening them quite a lot. Not everyday. My am routine is 2 products 3 when it's really cold. It's usually a milky toner if very cold then serum then sunscreen. I alternate between niod survival 0, or copper peptide or vitamin c serum so I did not use it everyday

My partner just mentioned that the Ordinary Copper Peptide has a vinegar-like scent.

I vote for a NIOD video from Alice!

7:55 "Some of you really are the knights who say Niod* - - I love you died 😅

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

😁😁

I am currently trying out the Ordinary copper serum and I really like it. I have noticed a difference. I also noticed a difference with their regular without the copper, but I see more with the copper But I would like to try Peach and Lily, Niods, Dr. Pickard and It seems that Maelove is coming out with one next week. So I have a ways to go in seeing which one works the best for me. Also , thank you for the recommendation of Thank you Farmers Rice and gel moisturizer. Very nice. Still waiting on Missha's Chogongin Youngan cream that you spoke about. It was out of stock for weeks, but is on its way. I want to use it at night along with the Sosaeng essence. Okay, thank you.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing! Ah yep those are both such good moisturizers, glad to hear you’re enjoying the Thank You Farmer! 😃

Knights who said Niod just made my day, thanks for that. I used up a bottle of copper peptides by Biossance, I wouldn’t call it ugly, but I didn’t see any improvements, my skin wasn’t at its best and it bugged me to find a place in my routine. I though something was wrong with me, because KZread was going crazy over copper peptides then.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Yes!! I tried the TO at what felt like the peak of copper peptide popularity. It left me feeling so perplexed!

Hi Alice, I absolutely love your look (and your dedication) today and I LOVE your sense of humour, especially today! 😂 I’m interested to know just how many of your subscribers caught your joke and or understood where it comes from?! ❤ from 🇦🇺

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

I always wonder the same thing, especially since a whole lot of my jokes come from geek origins 🤣

I was told to try copper skincare products for my vitiligo. I have been using it for a few weeks, no change so far. I was using opzelura until my insurance no longer covered it and it costs thousands without it 😢

My rosacea prone skin isn't a fan of TO's Copper Peptides, suspected that the % is too high and this video has pretty much confitrmed that. Looking forward to try P&L, the formulation looks awesome! Thanks Alice!!

Our favorite skincare science nerd is here, answering the questions I have every time I try to Google "wtf are copper peptides & what do they do"! Unrelated, but have you ever tried purito's sleeping mask? I've been trying to find the most recommended overnight mask, but it doesn't seem to be a popular topic of discussion! I've tried sulwhasoo's but I'm curious for recommendations.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

The most recommended or the best? I’d say cosrx rice might be one of the most recommended, but it’s not my favorite (too light!) my personal fav is the chogongjin youngan Jin cream, not labeled as a sleeping mask but SUUUCH a nice occlusive!

LOVING the Peach & Lily! I also do enjoy Dr Pickarts CP Super Serum. I found they both help with healing after doing peels and post breakouts... But for P&L is definitely a fave have to agree. I like it far better than TO. I have tried and re tried TO and I'm fairly certain it actually irritates my skin if i use it too often. 😣 I will go a while without it and hear someone rave about it and try it again... But I think I've finally come to the conclusion my skin just isn't a fan. Love your outfit!! So fitting for the topic💙🥰

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

I feel like our preferences do align often! 😁 and I’m so happy it’s a P&L product, you knowww we are going to see good deals!

@Kendralovesskincare

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole dry and breakout prone🤣 such a special subsect of the skincare world lol .. I have yet to try a product that you've recommended and not love it so I tend to agree😆

@ellec968

9 ай бұрын

Do you guys avoid using any other actives with the P&L copper peptide serum? I’m wondering how to add that to my existing routine…thanks

Speaking of copper peptides-if anyone cares Deciem is having their slowvember sale and Niods CAIS is 50% off. I randomly saw it on their website today. I love using CAIS when my barrier is damaged. Idk what else it does for me but it does help when my tretinoin has burned the ish out of my skin. I sort of don’t believe in peptides as much anymore unless they have a delivery mechanism to get into the skin. Like a lactic/glycolic acid copolymer otherwise it’s more of an expensive hydrator

I really like the Ordinary with copper. I like it a lot more than the Buffet. I’ve used Niod and I still like the Ordinary’s better. I wonder if some people’s skin needs copper more and so benefits more? I’ve used retinols forever and my skin seems to really like copper. I don’t mix. I use them on separate days.

I do want to try that Peach & Lily Serum. I'm just hesitant because nothing I've ever bought from that brand has worked for me (either did nothing or ended up sensitizing my skin). I may give it a go eventually anyway. If it doesn't work, I'm closing the book on P&L. Also: Copper peptide hair realness.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Oh wow really!? That’s so funny to read, but I get it. I feel like some brands really click for each of us, while others are the opposite (ie I have done really well with Peach & Lily, can’t use Shiseido/Lancome!)

@paulayarbrough6930

9 ай бұрын

The only thing that has worked for me from P&L is their glass serum and Latic acid serum. My skin instantly reacted to their pro peptide moisturizer because of the bergamot oil. I never tried their matcha moisturizer because of the bergamot oil. The gel cleanser I used on my body because it also has bergamot oil lol I can't remember the name ( the face spray ) was nice but just not for me. The only issue I had with the retinal serum was the bright yellow. It turned me yellow and it stains fabrics. I ruined so many tee shirts. I did like their eye cream but I didn't notice a difference with wrinkles. The cleansing oil felt like water and too expensive. I'm really tempted to try this one because it doesn't have bergamot oil and I used Paula's Choice ingredient checker and it had no bad, worst or average ingredients. I think there was 2 that weren't rated and that just means they haven't researched those ingredients yet. All the other ingredients were either good or best. I have a $10 off coupon at Ulta so I'm really tempted to go for it.

I’m new to copper peptides so I thought I would start with the Biossance squalane and copper peptide, for my sensitive dry skin. I wanna buy the ordinary copper peptides in the November sale but the smell is putting me off. Ps you look so pretty today 😍

For reasons unknown I get rashes from the Ordinary's copper peptide serum, albeit not very strong, but still it itches. Weird enough, it's not the same reaction from the NIOD copper peptide serum - one would think it should be stronger and penetrate deeper as it is so runny, but no. So... who knows, maybe it's not the copper peptides but something else.

I have a couple more days left on my DermaE peptide serum before I get to open my P&L. I’m probably going to pick up Stratia Interface when they do their sale to use with Lipid Gold as a moisturizer. I’m trying to pare down my serums to 1-2 instead of 3.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to hear how the P&L goes for you!! Great minds on the Stratia ☺️

I went through 3 bottles of TO copper peptides. I really liked it, idk why I didn’t repurchase. I had just started a “real” skincare routine when I started with TO. I can’t say if it was the copper or taking care of my skin in general that helped 🤷🏻‍♀️

Your skin looks especially beautiful so maybe the Peach and Lily has been working for you!

This blue outfit was amazing, exactly copper blue 😄 I knew I should not have ordered this TO Copper Peptides Serum 😂 Just an expensive hydrating serum 😢 At least I paid only 25€ with slow November. And it is not like I did not know, I already tried this product. Shame on me. 🤣

Thanks Alice for saving me from bankruptcy 😅😅😅... I was tempted to buy the NIOD's copper peptide cream.... I already have a few serums that " contain " them but there's no percentage disclosed. Thanks again 👍👍😃

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

🤣 happy to help! Hopefully there will be more research in time

People get so mad that copper peptides “didn’t do anything,” aka didn’t erase their wrinkles. But (in my anecdotal experience) it’s so soothing and one of the few things that helps with redness.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing! There are two things the industry doesn’t like admitting are HARD AS HECK to “treat”: hyperpigmentation and wrinkles. I am certain that if there was an easy fix for those, we would all know about it!

@tiahnarodriguez3809

8 ай бұрын

Copper peptides have worked incredibly well for exfoliating my skin. Years ago, I used to use a copper peptide serum that I don’t remember the name or percentage of, but it worked nicely to exfoliate and brighten my skin, then I tried the Platinum Skincare Gu-hk drops and it made my skin very smooth and bright. I’m interested in trying the new Mae Love copper peptide serum, but I want to see what others say before purchasing it.

CAIL works much better for me compared to CAIS (including the smell). CAIL has a much more pleasant smell. The issues are the price tag and the packaging 🙄

Peach & Lily has a lot of fruit extracts though! :( I’m just gonna stick with my Needle-less serum! P.S. Love all the blue! 😂💙💙💙💙💙🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Yes, it does!! Definitely one to check through for potential allergens

Lol about Niod. Penny just said they r on sale now 50% off now. Tempted to try since out of needless serum. Thanks lady for all your research. Love the copper blue theme.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

I’ve never seen niod run that kind of discount! Happy to share 🥰

@Jackie-is5kp

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHoleholy wow the peach and Lilly is packed w everything! Sale is entire month of November. Def expensive theirs are .5 oz 😮

... just ordered my 3% Copper Peptide this morning ... 😑 ... 50€, guess im gonna use it anyway ...

I'm totally waiting and hoping the Peach & Lily Peptide Serum goes on sale somewhere.....On another product. Have you heard of the PURITO Deep Sea Droplet Serum? It sounds interesting...

I ordered Allies of Skins peptide eye serum. The nails look cute Alice.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

I’ve heard so many good things about that brand! Let me know how it goes for you ☺️ (and thank you!)

Hi Alice, NIOD copper peptides serum is now 50% off!! Looking fwd for your reviews on this bad guy! 😁😁😁😹😹😹

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

😁😆

I really enjoy the encapsulated copper peptide that Stratia uses in Interface because I also have a strong dislike for the smell of The Ordinary's serum. 😂

@Ara_origin

9 ай бұрын

It’s awful right? Like a penny rubbed between sweaty fingers… 🤮

@kr59137

9 ай бұрын

@@Ara_origin And dipped in vinegar! 🤢

Have you heard about the theramid copper it has 3% ???

I prefer platinum peptides

Spanish brand Theramid has 3% copper peptides serum. They are probably the first ones to have this high percentage. When they do actives they go really high with everything and I sill don't understand why

Great video! I love the peach and lily serum, I will be stocking up Black Friday or when ulta gives me a good coupon? Do you think we can use CP with an antioxidant like bakuchiol or ubiquinone?

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

I would love to give a better answer than “I’m not sure”, but if you watch that interview, they asked Dr. Pickart about combinations and he answered, “stop putting so much stuff on your face!” Soooo. No good answers exist. Personally, I used CP at night and strong antioxidants in the morning. Easiest solution given the uncertainty!

I saw a video where a young lady said copper peptides turned her skin darker. I don't know if copper peptides affect skin of color differently 🤔 anyway, I'm still interested in trying it.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Oh wow I haven’t heard that. Tbh that has me feeling a bit concerned. I hope she stopped using it?? Sigh, really wish there were more human studies for this type of reason right here!!

Deciem is running its November 23% off sale. I think the NIOD copper peptides are 50% off.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Have they ever run deals like that on NIOD products??

@celiareed1402

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole Don’t think so, but NIOD copper peptides are not in my budget, even at 50% off.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Yeahhh. It’s a pricey one!

@kristincole9203

9 ай бұрын

​@@AliceintheRabbitHoleno they haven't!

What I noticed in myself is copper peptides tend to break me out. Not with pustules but more like closed comedones, milia, and whiteheads. My theory is because copper peptides have the potential to increase keratinocyte cell proliferation, more dead skin is coming off making way for new cells. My skin is dryyyyy so I tend to use more occlusive moisturizers and the dead skin isn't sloughed off efficiently on it's own because it can't keep up with the amount of dead skin being pushed up by the new cells. You'd think just exfoliating more would help but I refuse to go beyond 3 days/week because beyond that my skin is more irritated and I get dermatitis. I think this is very much of example of a case-to-case scenario. I've used tretinoin for over 18 years (started in high school for acne/milia) but that doesn't affect me the same as copper peptides. So I stick with tret cuz it has the same benefits I want from copper but less side effects for me. Every time there's an exciting or promising ingredient or product, I always take a step back and realize tretinoin does all the things every skincare product claims to do but it has the data and research to back it up. I'm lucky that I can tolerate tret as I know many can't us it but I see why so many brands try to demonize tretinoin or retinol if they don't sell their own cuz they know their stuff can't compare. I just wish we had an alternative for sensitive skin that has the same data and backing as tret which I thought would be copper peptides but sadly, not for me. Love ya, Alice!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

You actually stated one of the proposed theories for “copper peptide uglies”. And yeah, it could be a case-by-case situation indeed as others report the opposite (acne reduction) but - yep, that exists as a theory! I was getting a bit perturbed reading the “copper peptides are better than tret!!!1” articles. That’s just not what the study they keep citing says. CP performed better than tret in procollagen production, but tret was the winner in…pretty much everything else. So weird to see marketers take a study and really run with the wrong conclusions from it 😑

@user-su4rm3rc2e

9 ай бұрын

This is long so bear with me 😅 Let’s be honest, marketing is about selling a story, not facts. And nowadays there’s a huge market of consumers who like the “story” of science backed with data and cited sources. Marketing is just a positive word for manipulation. I feel like skincare has kinda reached its glass ceiling on innovation. We use the same ingredients for everything cuz they are proven to work. I approach skincare like” what can’t my skin naturally do on its own?” It’s case to case for everyone but the biggest example: our skin can’t block UV radiation on it’s own so we need a sunscreen. Idk if you know anything about Adipeau skincare and the founder Ivan Galanin but he’s the BIGGEST offender of cherry picking data. His product claims to help create new fat cells in certain areas of the face but literally that’s impossible for an over-the-counter product to do. His data on tretinoin his laughable, trying to state how tretinoin is basically a lie but HIS product is the answer to the problem. Consumers these days need a biology, marketing, and chemistry degree; a dermatology internship, and a certificate in facial anatomy from the Netherlands to be able to sift through all the BS we’re fed. If ya really want the results CP is touting, save up for a few tightening laser sessions and you won’t regret it. 🥰 but everyone needs to remember that aging is 5 pronged process. Bone, muscle, fat, fascia, and skin. Notice the first prong is bone but we tend to focus on the last 2-3. Without bone structure, the rest have no support to keep them lifted. See?!?!? Facial anatomy certificate. 😂

Interesting video! I am on my 3rd bottle of the ordinary copper peptide and love it, but to be honest i have never tried the multipeptide one. Now i am wondering if i would get the same results for a cheaper price

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

I wish I could tell you for sure! Sadly there’s a lot of variability in skincare that makes it SO unpredictable. Maybe worth trying though?

I recently discoverd the niche beauty labs copper peptides 3% curious on the long term effects.

I'm only on day 3 of using yhe TO copper pepptide. Smells weird yeah but it goes away. So far, i dont see any changes. Once empty, I'm probably not going to repurchase. There are other serums I am eyeing.

Haa ha 🤓 Just came home from buying 5 bottles of Hylamide Subq at TK Maxx - to find this video. What a nice coincidence! Thank you Alice ❤ 2,5€ per bottle btw 🤑🤑🤑

this look makes me so happy lol

Hi Alice it my favourite ordinary loving your videos 😊 xx

I still haven't tried it. The P&L has so many good things in it. Hmmmmmm?! Maybe I should pick it up. Have a great week ❌️ ⭕️

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Ulta rules dictate that we must wait for a sale. But we all know it’s coming soon, as that’s how Ulta goes 🤣😂 You too! 💕

Which copper peptide serum would you recommend for a newbie with dry, aging sensitive skin ??

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

I mean, my favorite is the peach & lily. Although I’m not sure it’s because of the CP or the full formula!

@paulayarbrough6930

9 ай бұрын

​@@AliceintheRabbitHolethank you 😊 I tried the ordinary multi peptide plus hyaluronic acid serum last night for the 1st time. I used it on my neck only lol I figured if my neck doesn't react than my face shouldn't. I used it this morning on my face and I did experience some stinging sensation. Not bad but I didn't like it lol I've read some comments that the ordinary copper peptide serum can cause stinging. Not sure if its true 🤔

@paulayarbrough6930

9 ай бұрын

​@@AliceintheRabbitHoleoh but I forgot to say....I woke up this morning and I INSTANTLY noticed my neck felt silky smooth. I was shocked how soft my skin felt. I know it was the ordinary because it was the only new product I added to my routine.

@paulayarbrough6930

9 ай бұрын

​@@AliceintheRabbitHoleI ordered the Peach and Lily copper peptide serum....30% off at ULTA 🥳 plus I picked up a backup of The Ordinary Multi Peptide plus Hyaluronic Acid Serum. I'm really loving it. I ended up using points I've been saving/hoarding lol so it cost me $0 🥳 I've been going back n forth between the P&L and TO copper peptide. I figured seeing how the P&L has a lower percentage of copper peptide I figured it would be the best place to start. Plus I'm gonna trust the reviews regarding the smell of TO copper peptide lol I know the new year is approaching and my new year's resolution is to only buy what I need. My biggest problem is SALES!!!! I told myself NO more than 1 backup and backups should only be for the products that I use twice a day every thing else purchase when I run out. And no more trying new products until I use up what I have. Thank you for recommending the P&L I can't wait to try it.

skin is an organ. i’d think studies on animals would definitely answer a lot of questions but i’m not with animal testing

This is interesting but I think I’ll save my money.

Do the peptides penetrate the skin?

Copper peptide serum by biossance destroyed my barrier 😢

FYI Round lab bitch juice moisture sun cream is $8 on Stylevana US! For some reason when the product the [Deal] price is displayed. Happy shopping!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

😱😱 thank you!!

@danerisortega3572

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole Wish I could link it but it’s against community guidelines! If you have trouble finding lmk where I can dm you!

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

@@danerisortega3572 yeah I am struggling to find it! @Aliceintherabbithole on IG, if that works?

I bought the Niod copper peptide sale today I couldn’t pass up the 50% off deal.

I thought the ordinary copper peptides was basic. I wanted to love it but meh.

Hello Alice, in my personal experience I have never seen benefits with copper peptides or any carrier peptides. I continue using them with the "promise" that throughout my life I will see some results. Now I have a question for you, why do you generally like peptides so much if we know that there are no human studies? I hope you are very well 😊

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Happy to answer! At the least, we know they act as humectants, which are inarguably beneficial for the skin. At most, they may do much more! So for me, I look for overall affordable peptide options. If it turns out they don’t offer the additional benefits, I’m happy with the hydrated skin without breaking the bank ☺️

I would love to see Rhett and Link debate copper peptides on Good Mythical Morning! ❤

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Gooooood mythical morning! I’d watch it for sure 🤣

I buy the Niod copper isolate each year durong the sale and then proceed to use it to sparingly (because it is so expensive) to see if it is actually worth it. My friend who uses it every other night swears it is what keeps her skin looking youthful despite working nightshift and having 2 kid

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@heathersargent289

9 ай бұрын

Did u get it ? It's 50% off right now I can't believe it !! I ordered 2 of them .

@susan825

9 ай бұрын

@heathersargent289 I ordered 2 too!

@heathersargent289

9 ай бұрын

@@susan825 cool!! That's amazing it's 59 off like an idiot I order 2 of the 15 ml sizes and then noticed after when I ordered the 30 ml size it was 16$ more for the 2 15 ml bottles I was so mad !! I could have saved 16$ ..lol

@susan825

9 ай бұрын

@@heathersargent289 i almost did the same thing :-). Just used to companies always having the biggest/most expensive thing as the pre-selected item

NIOD COPPER AMINO ISOLATE IS LITERALLU 50% off right now! The ordinary is 23% off. I’m guessing NIod did the 50% off due to a lot more CP products competing in the market.

Hi. Thanks for the honest and original approach. Everyone else out there is churning out the standard information. I got the NIOD eye contour whatever - full.price😢 - because I was impressed with the ingredient list and the promise of delivery. Used it religiously for a year. Absolutely no change in anything. Plan to sit out the copper peptide dance 😊 The HoWhoo and Missha products are weaving their own magic

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Yessss whew those brands blew me away!!

😍😍😍

And since you mentioned Penn Smith Skincare, she just posted a video on Niod's Slowvember focusing on copper peptides.

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Oh wow, that’s too funny! Great minds haha. I’ll make sure to check it out 😁

Can regular peptides be used with vitamin C? Anyone have any experience with this?

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Yes, but if using L-AA, apply that first and pause before applying the peptide product (as the latter is most likely at a higher pH)

@eheheh3263

9 ай бұрын

@@AliceintheRabbitHole got it. Thank you for the reply 👍

Your outfit 😂❤🙌

Is that the ND palette? Beautiful eyeshadow. You look super cute!❌️⭕️

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I ordered it but am waiting on Ulta lol…so you’ll never guess what I used in the meantime …Urban Decay Electric palette 👀😱

@lisasmith7

9 ай бұрын

​@@AliceintheRabbitHoleReally! So pretty ❌️⭕️

i used Ordinary Copper peptide for 2 weeks, i got tanned, even though i applied sunscreen and home all the time. I don't think this it is good for brown skins.

Youre so cuuuuuuuuteeeeee ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

O yeah wanted to tell u got my Sephora order today and they freaken sent me an empty box !!! Yeah an empty box with paper and a sample no products . I was so mad after the online drama of trying to order then waiting for it to only get nothing!! Then the women that I talked to was a B but finally after holding for ever she said she would resend the order again then hung up on me .

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

WHAAAAAAAAAAT

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Oh my GOD. I’m so sorry. How can they be this much of a mess!?

@patmandolla1806

9 ай бұрын

That seems to be the Norm. I went to rite aid today to buy adapalene and the box was empty. It felt like the product was in it.

@heathersargent289

9 ай бұрын

@@patmandolla1806 O that sucks ! Did u buy it and discover it after u got home or before.

i’m extra. i layer the ordinary copper under the biossance. we shall see.

👍👍👍

Is this why my face is growing so much hair on it 😩

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

Some people do report more hair growth with using copper peptide!

🐰

Hi❌️⭕️

Are you wearing blue for copper peptides? 😊😂

@AliceintheRabbitHole

9 ай бұрын

🦋😁

Copper burns my sensitive skin

not with that hair you don't