Many thanks again, Dr. Crawford, for the opportunity to chat with you!

@JacksonCrawford

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to have you, and looking forward to next time!

I was literally thinking about this crossover the other day. It seems all the language youtubers seem to be talking to each other a lot recently and it's awesome!

@mcgoose258

3 жыл бұрын

fast forward 5 years, the linguotubers have made their own language and colonized the moon

@amjan

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, most of them either appeared on Ecolinguist are talked to Luca Lamparello.

To the person who suggested learning Latin is useless: I did three years of Latin in junior high/senior high about a million years ago. It helped me learn French a lot faster, it helped me gain a working knowledge of Spanish and Italian without ever studying either language, and it gave me a clear understanding of grammar that I have been able to apply to every language learning scenario since. It helps me make sense of the Latin names of plants and flowers, understand medical terminology, understand unfamiliar words in English based on recognizing roots and affixes, and the list goes on. Other than English, Latin is the most useful language I ever studied,

@TheOtherTed

3 жыл бұрын

Just to add, a lot of things seem useless to learn... until you learn them. Plus, what you learn in the process of learning "useless" things might surprise you. I took two years of Latin in high school and loved it, but it wasn't until much later that I realized that the formalism (?) that goes with it (declensions, tenses, all that nit-picky stuff) probably primed me to learn stuff like formal logic, math, critical analysis, etc. that I use in my job on a regular basis. Couldn't speak a word of Latin today, but I'll give it credit for helping me land me a job I enjoy.

@valeriy8502

3 жыл бұрын

My mother made sure my brother and I studied Latin and Greek root words at least under the age of 10 exactly for the purpose of helping us to learn any Latin based or influenced languages in the future. I did go on to study botany and herbalism. I also love linguistics though I never became professional in that field. People act like I have some special talent for learning new languages, but I just know the root words and it makes things easier.

@stevenv6463

3 жыл бұрын

Conversely maybe it is okay to learn something useless and some things can be an end to itself.

@bodigames

2 жыл бұрын

Im Dutch so I already learned English, German, French and Spanish at school years ago. Now I’m learning Latin. Not like you to speak French faster because I already can but just because I like to want to speak Latin and maybe learn Italian after that.

The crossover we didn't know we needed. Thank you Jackson Crawford!

@uamsnof

3 жыл бұрын

Oh I knew, and I needed it, and now that I got it, I want more

Oh yess Jackson Crawford on Ecolinguist, can't wait

@johnagefrost

3 жыл бұрын

!!!

Great, insightful and fruitful conversation. As a Greek myself, I'd like to congratulate Luke for his take on ancient/modern greek. I did ancient greek for a total of 6 years (in high school) and suffice to say, if linguists like Jackson and Luke knew the kinds of things that were said within the classroom they would roll their eyes in horror. I always had trouble with ancient greek, and I always said that there are drastic differences between it and modern greek, but the entire shitshow that is called "greek highschool" is literally based on the opinion that "anyone who knows ancient greek understands/speaks modern greek". Six years of work and I got nothing to show for it. Everything we did was study simplified grammar rules, zero context, zero history, zero knowledge of the history of our language. Nothing but a completely vacuous, misinformed, dated approach that neglects every piece of scientific paper published in recent years about the proper pronounciation, history or understanding of ancient greek. Needless to say, the subject of ancient greek is treated like our mother tongue, i.e "you guys already speak ancient greek and didn't know it". This overzealous patriotic defense of our language will blow up in our face someday with tremendous consequences, that I'm sure of.

@treliaris888

3 жыл бұрын

Fellow Greek here. Our highschools are a shitshow indeed. It's mainly the teachers themselves who make the teaching of ancient Greek as it is, and the way it is taught, as if we already know it. Similarly to Latin. If you ever want to learn ancient Greek or Latin in Greece, frontistirio is the solution for it.

@georgieboy9879

3 жыл бұрын

@@treliaris888 Καλά για τα λατινικά ουτε λογος, άστο να παει στα κομμάτια. Τι τα θες, και οι καθηγητές πλεουν διδάσκουν ως ενισχυτικο του φροντιστήριο και όχι το αντίστροφο. Δεν βαριέσαι. Πάλι καλά που έχει κανάλια σαν αυτό το Luke που ασχολουνται με αρχαία και λατινικά, το παθος που έχει αυτός ο άνθρωπος δεν το είδα ουτε μια φορα στο γυμνάσιο ή το λυκειο.

@treliaris888

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgieboy9879 Για να έκαναν οι καθηγητές μας αυτά που κάνει ο Luke έπρεπε να είχαν μεράκι. Ελάχιστοι καθηγητές σαν κι αυτούς υπήρχαν στα σχολεία, και λίγοι περισσότεροι στα φροντηστήρια. Το μόνο που τους νοιάζει τώρα είναι να κάνουν το μάθημα τους και να τελειώνει η υπόθεση.

@thkarape

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent points mate. Έξι χρόνια "διάβασε το κείμενο και αναγνώρισε τα είδη των μετοχών" με έκανε πραγματικά να μισήσω τη γλώσσα.

@georgek5737

2 жыл бұрын

Δεν φταίνε μόνο οι καθηγητές αλλά και το ίδιο το πρόγραμμα. Ήμουν τυχερός που είχα φοβερή καθηγήτρια αρχαίων στο λύκειο αλλά το πρόγραμμα δεν βοηθούσε ούτε την ίδια να μας διδάξει. Επίσης ήμουν απόλυτα τυχερός και τώρα ευγνώμων για τον καθηγητή αρχαίων στο φροντιστήριο ο οποίος δεν μας μάθαινε σύνταξη τυπικά. Χωρίζαμε προτάσεις και μετά μας έδινε λίγο χρόνο να βρούμε όπως νομίζουμε την σύνταξη. Για ότι έβαζε ο καθένας έπρεπε να του πούμε γιατί το βάλαμε με αυτόν τον τρόπο (ποια ήταν η λογική μας) και αν ήταν λάθος στο τέλος μας εξηγούσε την λογική πίσω από την σωστή σύνταξη. Τότε ξεκίνησα να μην φοβάμαι το συντακτικό!

question really is: when do we get a monolingual Old Norse book Familia Romana style?

@enochrockwell7202

3 жыл бұрын

This

@xgarr458

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! This... I want this!

@hussaindaud1260

3 жыл бұрын

What is that? Can someone explain? Sounds interesting

@justames5979

3 жыл бұрын

@@hussaindaud1260 Familia Romana is basically a book only in Latin and reading it you can get competent in Latin reading comprehension. So they're asking when is something like that coming in Old Norse

@z.l.burington1183

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there really needs to be a Lingua Latina per se Illustrata for Old Norse, and for Old English.

Luke Ranieri... You keep 'knocking it out of the park'... Great conversation with the almighty Jackson Crawford

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks, Craig!

Watching episodes of The Simpsons dubbed in French is how I went from “textbook fluent” to colloquially fluent. I was lucky growing up in Canada where we had French language tv channels as part of our basic cable, so I watched The Simpsons in French every day to improve. Also a lot of opportunity to speak it growing up in our only officially bilingual province. Right now I only speak conversational German, but I’m improving by watching stuff dubbed in German with English subtitles. I’ve also picked up on a lot of Japanese this way from watching a lot of anime as a teenager. It truly is a great resource.

Hey! Two of my fave youtubers together, much appreciated :)

@lexistential

3 жыл бұрын

@@Storytime2023x think that was meant to be "fave" not "five"

@Miggy19779

3 жыл бұрын

@@Storytime2023x yep fave whoops fixed

So excited to hear you're going to be on Norbert's channel!

This was a pleasant surprise! Two giants of language learning!

The excellence of this conversation overhwelms me.

I've been waiting for this

@weirdlanguageguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thelaretus Gāius, hmm? Has a nice ring to it. A transliteration of my name would be "latingeek der lingwist"

Soldier derives from "solidus (nummus)", an ancient gold coin, old French " solt", old German "solt", new German "Sold" and a "Soldat" is the receiver. A "Söldner" in nowardays German is a mercenairy, means that he or she takes golden coins from different sides. Like your series a lot, thank you for your work!

@TheBrucepix

11 ай бұрын

I don’t agree. Soldier derives from the much older word Salt.atha “salt comrade” from ur- Frisian. A mercenary paid in salt.

Oh this was an absolute treat! Thank you both for this amazing interaction from my two favourite linguists

Thank you! So much here to try for language learning. 💜

Oh it's going to be good to watch you two have a conversation, i'm looking forward to this During the lockdowns I've had a lot of time on my hands and I've tried to learn Latin to give myself something to do, and the videos Luke makes are incredibly helpful. The amount of time and effort he puts into making those videos, and answering people's questions in the comments, is impressive. I've a lot of respect for him, he seems like a pretty great bloke

This was a great discussion. I’m an avid language learner and watch both regularly. I love studying ancient languages and create conlangs.

It's so great to see this many language youtube channels make collabo videos. Jackson Crawford, Luke Ranieri, Norbet from Ecolinguist, Simon Roper, Bahador Alast to name a few. It really warms my linguistics-loving(is that even a proper term. Sorry, I'm not a English native) heart!

Seriously OMG Old-Norse is coming I’m sooooooooo excited!!!!!!!!!!’ This is the best news ever! I love life!!!

really good talk you guys, thanks

Always love crossovers between channels I follow.

I feel Jackson on the hesitancy in "outing" yourself as someone who speaks a dead language aloud. I once made a meme in Gothic that referenced Bill & Ted and taped it to my dissertation advisor's office door. He was very perturbed. It was great!

How I ended up studying Sanskrit had nothing to do with the content but simply wanting to make the sounds. I spent hours walking in circles in my kitchen listening to a few syllables and repeating them over and over and over until I could pronounce an entire phrase accurately. What kept me interested was finding out what the sounds meant and feeling inspired by the content. I also used to label everything. And you’re right, Jackson, you must enjoy the process. For me part of it was the amazing gems found in the meaning packed into a single Sanskrit word or sometimes even a syllable. Would have been much more fun to know someone who also had their mind blown almost every time they sat down to study, but 🤷‍♀️Oh well. I clean my brains off the ceiling and carry on.

@sandeepr1253

Жыл бұрын

Why would you learn sanskrit (just being curious)

Arguably the two best producers of linguistic content on the internet in a single video? How many different ways can I say yes?

@amjan

3 жыл бұрын

Ecolinguist, duh?? Stuart Raj???

@joshuddin897

2 жыл бұрын

@@amjan ecolinguist is a fraud.

@Anonymous-376

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuddin897 how?

I really like that connection between ancient myths and modern franchises. I've thought that before, and it's nice to know other (more knowledgeable) people agree

I studied Latin and Italian formally. I also live in an Air Force base town, so this collabo is mind blowing.

this is some quality content right here. hoping Luke will use his japanese channel some day, really needing those tips

@omegacardboard5834

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! I believe he is focussing on the Latin and Ancient Greek at the moment, but I am sure when he has more time he will go back to his Japanese and do some stuff on that channel

Such respect for you guys; you seem to have all your priorities right. I have been passionate about language all my life, and still am. But my experiences in two different universities were so negative that it nearly killed off my curiosity. Even the professor who was supportive of my desire to learn languages for the sake of actual use and communication rather than purely for academic purposes, still told me I should be doing academics, otherwise I was selling myself short. It was a bit like ethnomusicology departments telling students not to actually learn to play the music they're studying, because it diverts their efforts away from the purely academic approach. The account of the "mental blocks" around using the languages actively really hit home with me. I actually got scolded for learning actual spoken Uzbek from exchange students visiting from Tashkent. Anyway, I'm glad to see people who are freeing themselves from those attitudes! Had to smile at the "wh" thing, I grew up in eastern Iowa and that's just how I say it. I knew that people in some places pronounced "witch" and "which" the same way, but never thought much about it. Then I moved to Seattle, and people regularly tease me about it with exaggerated impressions. :)

Most Excellent! Carry on, Gentlemen!

Regarding the Greek alphabet, I learned recently that more generally than only the Helvets, the Gauls did not really have a written tradition for the Gaul languages, but when they eventually started writing stuff down, they used the Greek alphabet. And somewhere around that time, maybe a little bit after, were the wars with the Roman Empire, and the Roman alphabet started to take over, not just in the writing, but also Latin in the language. I find all of this fascinating. Fantastic talk, thank you both.

So great!

I suscribed to this channel just a few weeks ago and I see Luke here

Oh my God, this was a universe crossover for my heroes I didn't know I needed!

That is a very good idea, having an internal dialog! My brain never shuts up as much as I try to, so exercising and practising a new language that way would at least be productive! I'm gonna have a go at that!😊 I was always fascinated by Latin and ancient Greek as well as Italian! My aunt is fluent but never spoke to us in Italian! And people keep telling me what's the point of I can't use it! But I finally decided to ignore them, hence why I'm here! Because Old Norse (I'm currently doing your "classes") and the Scandinavian languages where always of interest to me too! So we'll see how I get on! I sing and write songs and I would so love to write one in an old language and I think that can help too learning a language! I have been doing research on languages for years and how they all relate to each other and what we know of how they started etc! Another language that fascinated me is Sanskrit, but I still only know a fraction of what's probably known to linguists. I also find some written language very interesting like Arabic, Greek, Icelandic, Norse etc. It's kind of magical! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!😊 (😜my nephew's middle name is also Amadeus😜)

great stuff!!!

My two favourite youTubers in one video? Oh my!

Great Video. Jackson, love the RPG 'confession'. You should take a look at an RPG called Yggdrasil. It is fantastic.

I am so glad I chose to learn Latin in high-school. It wasn't offered, I had to learn entirely from books alone like a lot of other people, Crawford included. I initially began reading Latin because I was taking French and hated every second of it. Then my career led me down the path of liturgical music (church music, a lot of it in Latin, a lot in German too), and all those years of studying Latin, Old English, German, and Greek suddenly paid off. One of those powerful moments when it just seemed like everything in my life was lining up in this direction.

What a crossover!

1:07:23 That is the coolest thing ever and I admire you even more now! 😂

I am a native speaker of English and spent the first 27 years of my life in the United States. I've never studied Latin, but I speak French quite fluently, Spanish perhaps a bit less so, and Italian "if I have to" (but I can read it without any difficulty), so that assuming the material is within my field of knowledge and expertise, I can translate Latin. I also have taught myself Koine Greek in order to be able to read the New Testament in the original. I would like to learn to speak both of them one day, so I am a great fan of Luke Ranieri :) It's also interesting what you guys mention about using the Bible to learn a language. I learned Polish using the Bible. Now, I already knew how to pronounce Polish correctly because my father's secretary, who was born in Warsaw, taught me my numbers up to 1000 when I was perhaps 10 years old, just for fun, perhaps because I had volunteered the info that my Mom is half Polish. At any rate, the numbers up to 1000 contain, as I recall, all or nearly all of the sounds of the Polish language. And they were all I knew the first time I visited Poland. I could more or less understand what people were saying by the time I left 5 weeks later, but I couldn't speak yet. So after going home, I took my Polish Bible and started memorizing verses. It was the only opportunity I had, and since I already knew the Bible well, it seemed like a good choice. And indeed... after memorizing perhaps 20 verses, I was obliged (for a scholarship application) to carry on a conversation in Polish about how I had learned Polish and what my plans were for the future. I managed to survive this conversation, learning things on the fly from the questions the examiner asked me. I got the scholarship and moved to Poland. You could say that at a certain point, I figured out that I had inadvertently devised a certain method for learning languages which, if undertaken consciously, involves first reading through a textbook for the language in one day - to get a grip on the logic of the language. Thirty years later, I have used this method to teach myself and/or enhance my learning of several other languages (including Koine Greek), and am working as a translator. I now have two target languages, and can translate anything into Polish that I would translate into English - including rhymed poetry. There are those who say I write Polish even better than I write English. Indeed, I remember my teachers at the beginning of my time in Poland noticed certain peculiarities in my speech that were considerably more advanced than one would have expected. Once I told them how I had learned Polish, they said, "Aha, that explains a lot..."

I like your personality so much more knowing you were able to nerd out in an rpg setting (most likely d&d I assume) in languages you and your friends were passionate about!

@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

Жыл бұрын

for me it was actually a turn off lol

@LoisoPondohva

Жыл бұрын

​@@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaighnobody cares.

"A soldier is just a man [in Old Norse]." There's the same problem in Old English. Also, I really like where you're talking about writing your own idiolect of Norwegian, since you're not from any particular area of Norway, you're a non-native speaker. And I think this is a good lesson for people learning and speaking languages like Old English. Since there's no possibility of writing and speaking exactly as some particular dialect in some particular period of Old English, then if we want to speak and write our own words, we have to develop our own idiolects which will necessarily be a combination of periods and dialects and neologisms that are unique to ourselves yet are grammatically correct and consistent and intelligible.

Lucius deus linguae latinae et magnus magister eius est!

I picked up Lingva Latina Per Se Illvstrata after seeing this, and In the US it is also published by Dr. Crawford’s publisher, Hackett.

That was a really interesting conversation. I look forward to the next one! For the person who asked about Assyrian (IIRC): the term Akkadian is used to cover Babylonian and Assyrian. I think the best textbook in English is A Grammar of Akkadian by John Huehnergard of the University of Texas (+ additional key to the exercises). The standard reference grammar is in German by Werner von Söden, "Grundriss der akkadischen Grammatik". The dictionary of Akkadian by the University of Chicago in about 20 Volumes was available as a pdf download 10 years ago or so. Hopefully, it still is. The grammar is relatively straightforward but the writing system is very complicated, made particularly difficult by the fact that what is nominally the same cuneiform sign is often written in several different ways. Most textbooks use a font and thus use exactly the same symbol each time. Over 10 years ago I bought everything I could find on Akkadian, Sumerian, Hittite, Elamite and Hurrian, (there isn't much on the last 2). It is fascinating but I'd have been better off just sticking to Akkadian. In the end I bit off more than I could chew and ended up not continuing with any of them.

@gerardvila4685

3 жыл бұрын

What a pity. I can't say I'm crazy about cuneiform myself - the great Irving Finkel mentioned suicide with reference to its complexity - but it's a sad day when somebody gives up on their dream. Maybe you could find a way to fool around a bit without aiming for the North Face straight away, just have some fun with your favourite subject.

@philroberts7238

3 жыл бұрын

@@gerardvila4685 Yay, Irving Finkel! He would also make a great crossover session with the two of you. He and Tom Scott have appeared together playing ancient board games.

I'd love to see a discussion between Jackson Crawford and Let's Talk Religion.

YES! The 1st time I told a joke in Russian to a Russian in Russia, and they laughed, was a GRAND experience.

Dude amazing.

I never thought I'd see the day...

To whoever the guy was asking about Assyriology, I may have a book for you! I've been working through A Grammar of Akkadian, Third edition by John Huehnergard. It's complex for sure but a very good grammar of Akkadian that teaches speaking first which I think is a great approach. The book focuses on the Old Babylonian dialect but has some appendices that address Assyrian directly.

The Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom is from the late 4th century in Constantinople and the weekly service in most Orthodox Churches. In Greece as well as all churches under the Bishop of Constantinople abroad there will be at least some Koine Greek in the service. Sometimes even in America the entirety of the service is Greek and very similar to the text of the Koine Bible. There is almost always English provided in English speaking countries in addition to the Greek though. The same liturgy is celebrated in church Slavonic in many Russian churches, in Romanian, and most of the Churches of the Orthodox Church within whatever language is common to that country. The original is Greek though.

Dubbed films are a GREAT tool, because the dubbing is usually crisp and correct compared to the rougher or mumblier language you can find on undubbed productions. When I was in France dubbed movies and tv shows were a salvation and a great gateway to vocabulary and turns of phrase.

1:14:19 This is common for musicians. Start practising the last part, then keep appending the preceding sections until you reach the beginning.

@amjan

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, never heard about it! I should try one day.

My favs !!!!!!

We all do that with names! Say what you’re thinking with complete confidence! You’ll get corrected!

I hate it when I have a comment to make mid-video, but if I do not make it, I will forget it... So, I love to listen just to get the "vibe" of a language, alot like dialects in English. My mind just starts processing in similar rythhms and sounds, then I like to watch videos with subtitles cause it is like using training wheels. Also, my brothers all went on missions in foreign countries and it is nearly miraculous how quickly they learned, so I think, hmm. How can I mimick their experience in learning a new language? I think, well, they were surrounded by speakers and couldn't communicate without at least trying, so I put rules on my life like, if I cannot speak it in that language then, I cannot have it. Also, I like to watch movies that I have already seen and watch until I get what they are saying instead of translating it into English. I find that is faster and easier to learn phrases instead of word to word correlations...that may not be universally true, but That is what I instantly thought of when the two of you spoke of learning/perfecting a non primary language.

D&D in medieval languages is literally the coolest thing I've ever heard. I wish I was fluent enough in any of language besides English to do something like that.

The koine Greek vs modern Greek question is interesting. I actually had the same question once about Old Norse and modern Norwegian. This is because both languages are referred by Norse in Dutch (oud Noors en modern Noors). Imagine if Italian was called modern Latin or German called... modern Germanic...? You get my point, haha.

@matteo-ciaramitaro

2 жыл бұрын

In Norway they have Bokmal and Nyorsk varieties of norsk. They call Old norse Norrønt among other things. Old Norse is interestingly pretty much the same as Icelandic is today, not completely but they can read the old texts, which none of the scandinavian languages can.

Dr Crawford ..... probably unknown to you BUT.... the explosion of male children named Jackson in recent times could arguably and almost single handedly be attributed to Kurt Sutter's Modern day version of Hamlet and its leading man, Jackson Nathaniel "Jax" Teller , Central character in the show and member of the "Outlaw" Motorcycle Club Sons of Anarchy ... wildly popular for 7 seasons on Fox ....

Starship Troopers is one of my favorite books

godlike crossover

Hello from Daniel, WY.

My two idols together

Akkadian and Ugaritic were taught, at least in introductory form, in my old seminary (Asbury). People who do serious work in archaeology and biblical Hebrew know where the programs are on Assyriology.

Luke - a little off topic but can you help me with this. It’s a quote at the beginning of one of my favorite books but all the online translations make no sense. Thx. Quid Quincunce speciosius , qui , in quamcunque partem spectaveris , rectus est ? ( Quintilian )

Not going to see me skip over a Collab with 2 language KZreadrs I like watching

The implication would be that fronting of maxim was a result of leveling, but /i/ is unrounded, not just fronted.

What a crossover

I would love to see you do a discussion with Arabic linguist and philologist Ahmed al Jallad. I think there are a lot of interesting topics both of you could cover.

Oh I've always wanted to learn latin - cool - thank you

25:54 There's a very similar sense of fraternity/sorority/"contubernalism" in swimming. I've been a swimmer for 42 years and whereever I go in the world, if I get into a pool or swim open water and some other swimmer identifies me as a swimmer from for example technique and form and starts talking to me, we have an instant friendship. Maybe it is like Jackson points out, a case of shared pain and struggle. Also, the self-confidence of knowing oneself to be capable of morning practice, double workouts, pushing oneself to endure lactic acid and muscle fatigue every day, is transferrable. If I know that of myself, I instantly know that of my interloquitor too. What other "secret societies" are there out there whose members have a similar instant bond with strangers? 🤔😊

@amjan

3 жыл бұрын

Musicians :) Especially if it entails performing experience.

@1:29 mins, the beauty of "dead" language like Latin and Classical Hebrew or Old Norse is that the fact that they are no longer evolving means that they are eternal. :-)

Him saying Tom Hiddleston about the show vikings cracked me up

The sentiment that learning a “dead” language is useless likely precludes the ability to learn a “living” language past the point of minimal proficiency. To get good at any language requires a general interest in language-learning over and above the pragmatic motivation to learn a specific language for utilitarian reasons. The question seems to be most often posed by parents trying to decide what flavor of language instruction to subject their child to.

Jackson and Luke, conlangs require cultural significance, I believe. I speak five languages (English and Spanish, of course, and also Russian (B.A. 1982), German (for my B.S. in chemistry), and French (2 yrs. in the Peace Corps, Togo, West Africa); I dabble in Latin and Greek) and I've created four conlangs. The first was 'for fun', but I created Tasblish essentially out of necessity. How do you communicate something in a culture that has no sense of first or second person singular? There is an idea of 'us' and 'them', which automatically pushes 'he' and 'she' into the realm of stranger, foreigner, or potential adversary, because they are the only singular persons in the language. I don't see Tasblish as a conceptual exercise, but more as a means of connecting with the very ancient, pre-agricultural past. There must have been prehistoric cultures so horizontal in their outlook that any sense of individuality was foreign to the clan or tribe, and that is precisely the type of culture I created for my Tasfit tribe of Neanderthals inhabiting the Great Hungarian Plain in 43,000 BCE. Tasblish began when I went out in the woods with empty gallon and quart paint cans, gathered birch bark, and created my own birch bark oil through dry distillation right there in the state forest. I waited 'til returning home to inhale the stuff. When I finally did take a small whiff, I just about fell out of my chair. It was like a thousand bonfires distilled into the half cup of oil in my quart can. The smell was so strong. I realized immediately Neanderthals were spreading this stuff on their bodies (Russian birch bark oil is a more effective mosquito repellent than DEET), and the odor was overpowering. But the odor would have centered them on the clan fire, even when they were hunting 20-30 km away from the clan. And yet it was different, and the difference depended on proximity. That made me realize the nouns were not declined on the basis of relation to verb, but on relation to proximity - physical, social, or emotional - to the clan fire. So Tasblish is not declined but proxigated, with nouns understood in the context of proximity to clan fire or clan members and to a far lesser extent on the basis of immediate activity. Now I had two culturally-determined elements of grammar not expressed in any other language I've learned (or am even acquainted with), which only enhanced the need to actually go out and create the language, which is what I did. Jackson, based on the inclinations you expressed here, I doubt you would have the stomach for a 414-page novel on Neanderthal culture, but if you do give it a try, you'll be able to speak at least a few sentences in Tasblish by the end of the novel. There is a Tasblish primer, of course, which I won't push here; you know how to find it if you're interested. I've been watching both of you guys for a couple of years and I am finally subscribing today. I am Scandinavian (48 percent Swedish, 42 percent Norwegian), and my current WIP is Trinity, which has strong Norse themes and characters; I may end up quoting some of your translations. And Luke, I enjoy your content immensely. I loved the test of Portuguese, Italian, and Spanish speakers, and finding strangely that I can understand spoken Italian. I've known for some time that I understand written Italian, but had no idea it was close enough to Spanish and French to pretty much understand. Thanks to you, I fearlessly listen to reviews of fountain pens and bushcraft knives (two of my hobbies) in Italian. Vale! PM

Herein we observe the attempts of the flamboyant, expressive and wily Roman to outwit the stoic, gruff Norseman with silly puns and jokes

@amjan

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!!

The discussion of scripts tickles me. I love showing my friends that “Arabic” numerals are just base 10, and are divided into eastern and western Arabic numerals. For example: ١٥ Is 15, not 10.

O my Latin!

Cuneiform wasn't originally Semitic though but Sumerian (probably). It was adapted to Akkadian, Hittite, Mirani, Elamite etc. very roughly.

Wait so the Jackson Crawford watches Vikings video was not you watching Vikings?

Ecce!

Classical language learners don't learn Scandinavian/Norse language?? Well I'm learning both Latin/ancient greek and old norse/ old English!! Greetings from Greece professor and to you too luke!!

@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

Жыл бұрын

they were saying that classical language learners don't learn Modern Scandinavian languages. That people who study Old Norse do not try to learn Norwegian, Danish, etc. They were commenting that this is a mistake.

I think Interlingua would be an interesting topic too.

Speaking of people named for western geography, you meet tons of women named "Madison" but very few named " Big Hole".

@LoisoPondohva

Жыл бұрын

Virgin Virginia vs chad Grand Canyon

Moms in Targets everywhere yelling at their 3 year old kids named Jackson. Jackson Crawford starting to post lots of videos on KZread around 5 years ago. Coincidence? I think not.

@baronmeduse

3 жыл бұрын

No-one likes people who give their kids surnames as christian names. It's tiresome and old-hat.

@LoisoPondohva

Жыл бұрын

​@@baronmedusewho hurt you my guy.

@baronmeduse

Жыл бұрын

@@LoisoPondohva Nobody. Not recently anyway. And not in a way that relates to this. What an odd question.

@LoisoPondohva

Жыл бұрын

@@baronmeduse well, considering you're the only one who cares about the issue, yet you do enough to feel everybody needs to hear about it, I'd say the question is pretty relevant to you being so salty.

@baronmeduse

Жыл бұрын

@@LoisoPondohva Clearly I'm not the only one because you're here making a meal of it 1 year later. I don't know what 'being salty' is. I don't speak American. I can assure you my salt levels are at normal homeostatic equilibrium.

But do you know why the Swiss chose Confoederatio Helvetica for their official name? They didn’t want to show preference for any one of the four official languages, and especially didn’t want to use the English name.

Regarding the conversation around 44:50, Greeks react to the pronunciation issue the same way in Rick and Morty the people of Pluto reacted to the statement that "Pluto is a planet". Saying "Ancient Greek sounded like modern Greek" feeds their ego and satisfies their beliefs, even though, deep inside, they know it might not be actually so. How could it possibly be so, when every word is spelled so differently than what is pronounced?. But they just don't want to hear it, because the way Ancient Greek and Medieval Greek is echoing all day in their daily lives with a modern Greek pronunciation, it makes them feel uneasy to imagine that it wasn't actually so. Schools of course are to blame, they teach ancient Greek appallingly bad.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

I actually have a video about Pluto on my channel if you're interested in the subject.

@Lara__

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke I'll check it out. I enjoy all things Pluto 😊

Luke, is there any way we can bribe you for a list of those Japanese resources!?

@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

Жыл бұрын

It sounded like they're outdated now

@1:32 mins, Esperanto is popular in Korea.

Other than the obvious reasons, I would think Luke probably enjoys visiting Italy to interact with Italian Priests, w/whom (I assume) he can speak in both Italian and Latin.

I just have to tell you… nothing has ever motivated me to be a better driver more than the thought of being judged in Latin by another motorist. 😂

Lingua Roma urbis antiquae, lingua Latina quotidiana, Lingua Latina ecclesia viva

Tom Hiddleston studied Latin in school.

"But apart from that .... what did the Romans ever do for us?" 😂

Mr. Crawford, Have you had any copyright strikes from Disney yet? They have been Copyright striking anything with the name Thor or Loki.

@SprocketTalker

3 жыл бұрын

This isn't true, fortunately. I dislike Disney as much as anyone, but this rumour was started by a redbubble user whose comic book-copycat tshirt design was taken down (by Redbubble themselves, and seemingly Disney was not actually involved). You can find this quite easily with google.

@pedrocacela1885

3 жыл бұрын

Disney are the ones which should be sued by the sovereign State of Iceland. They have been plundering past cultures and religions and turning them into childish commercial entertainment just for money. The Eddas and the Sagas belong to the people of Iceland and are world cultural patrimony, therefore, they must be accessible to anyone and everyone who wants to read/study them or make cultural content about them. Sometimes i think that U.S corporations and their CEO's have really lost their marbles once and for good. What are they going to do next? Go to Sweden and take possesion of the Rune Stones that have Thor or Loki representations carved/painted on them? These people are so brainless that they think they can buy and own history and culture for their own profit.

Try learning Coptic. Or Old Greek. You will feel the real challenge.

The Fine Arts are, by definition, useless. They are not properly ‘used’ because they are ends in themselves (hence ‘fine’ as in ‘final’). Music isn’t FOR anything except itself. But being useless does not mean being unworthwhile.