Kurt Cobain | Life & Death | Mental Health & Personality

This video answers the questions: Can I analyze the mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the life and death of Kurt Cobain?
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  • @bevansmith3210
    @bevansmith32104 жыл бұрын

    "Depression distorts reality. " Very true.

  • @lillysnet9345

    @lillysnet9345

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would think that what we call "depresion" is state where you start to recognize "distortion of reality" that already exists. People with "depression" start to recognize "doable tolk" and discover double meaning of many things around them.

  • @piperhurtado4945

    @piperhurtado4945

    4 жыл бұрын

    JustChizzin I get you and I understand you. I have suffered from severe depression and anxiety all my life. Early childhood molestation and an eventual rape as a young adult (by two different people, both relatives) helped nothing. I have been on a cocktail of different meds since age 26 and I am still on them 16 years and three kids later. The thing with depression is you fully understand why it is (fundamentally brain chemistry exacerbated by early trauma) and you know how you ought to be, yet you cannot get there. Folks who say “cheer up” or “don’t be anxious” help no one. In fact, those cliche responses only serve to aggravate the sufferer, as they either feel guilty for being the way they are or they feel patronized by folks who don’t know what the hell they are talking about. When I am deep in the depression (ebbs and flows like anything) all of life seems ludicrous. Pointless. It’s not that the sufferers feels “superior” to the folks they are witnessing day to day, but, at least in my case, a lot of envy is involved. How I wish I could take pleasure in a sunset or going for ice cream or whatever. What pisses me off are folks that think mental illness is a “choice.” Just, no. When people tell me that, I just walk away. I must protect my own health if I am to remain on this mortal coil, you know?

  • @ennuied

    @ennuied

    4 жыл бұрын

    Conditioning distorts reality.

  • @whitewhite2410

    @whitewhite2410

    4 жыл бұрын

    Depression is hell.😥😥😥

  • @whitewhite2410

    @whitewhite2410

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Chief Seattle ikr it's fucking hell

  • @Tech215Studios
    @Tech215Studios4 жыл бұрын

    Dr. G you should make shirts that say “I’m not Diagnosing anybody, just speculating.” Haha they’d sell like hot cakes!!!!

  • @LuciaInman

    @LuciaInman

    4 жыл бұрын

    True! I’d get one

  • @michaelgarza2569

    @michaelgarza2569

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmao that really would

  • @kevinhornbuckle

    @kevinhornbuckle

    4 жыл бұрын

    Funny because it's untrue.

  • @ellenfalls1330

    @ellenfalls1330

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure I'd get one. 😉

  • @louisepeacock3953

    @louisepeacock3953

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!!!

  • @flywings111
    @flywings1112 жыл бұрын

    The roots are always in the childhood. He was thrown away by his parents and no surprise he hated humanity by the time he was 7. He suffered and wanted love and attention and he turned to drugs at an early age. This led to heroin addiction and depression later. I feel sorry for him because he was a sensitive, very talented guy.

  • @JayBird227

    @JayBird227

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, very true, it’s all his parents fault, some people are just too sensitive to get over childhood neglect

  • @flywings111

    @flywings111

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JayBird227 Yes, very true. People are different, some are get over it more easily while some other suffer deeply. Kurt was sensitive and he suffered a lot. Really sad.

  • @Partyinglikeits1999

    @Partyinglikeits1999

    Жыл бұрын

    Why did his parents give him away. I’ve never heard this.

  • @jeffersonaraujoelcristiano

    @jeffersonaraujoelcristiano

    Жыл бұрын

    This would also explain why he was so mediocre with the guitar and never really cared about his solos, even though he was even really talented for making solos...

  • @mcren6781

    @mcren6781

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah my guy, it’s more than just childhood. Depression is a brain disease that people are born with. It’s a chemical imbalance. You just hear about it more with people with depression because they focus on it more. People who don’t have depression you never hear about this shit, because they don’t focus on it. This is also why people with depression use drugs. It’s the worst fucking disease it just torments you for years and years.

  • @rebeccahoffman2430
    @rebeccahoffman24304 жыл бұрын

    Depression is a severe monster...

  • @deshoncole2472

    @deshoncole2472

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its a demon.

  • @cheothegeo2742

    @cheothegeo2742

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bipolar depression is even worse...

  • @shanegiggie

    @shanegiggie

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're telling me it has no forgiveness

  • @zoebroadbent7774

    @zoebroadbent7774

    3 жыл бұрын

    No joke, depression or anxiety 😣

  • @GUT5S

    @GUT5S

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cheothegeo2742 no, there is no mental illness thats better or worse than another, it's unfair to those suffering with them and how devastating it can be is on a case by case basis

  • @Jesterjones9073
    @Jesterjones90734 жыл бұрын

    We hear time and again people commenting “he had everything, he had money, a good life, fame, yet he killed himself”. But you are right Dr Grande, deep depression warps a persons perspective of life. I have a friend who suffers from depression, it is a constant struggle for her to remain upright. I am going to hug her extra hard today. Thank you for this video...

  • @markdemell6087

    @markdemell6087

    3 жыл бұрын

    Halleluyah,amein.

  • @J3nJ3nl0llip0p

    @J3nJ3nl0llip0p

    3 жыл бұрын

    What a lovely perspective!

  • @oceanstaiga5928

    @oceanstaiga5928

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s always what people say when successful people take their life.. sadly it doesn’t work that way and all those things won’t make anybody resistent to deep depression.

  • @astridjaye6224

    @astridjaye6224

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depression is horrific as is anxiety, I suffer from it daily and am treatment resistant. Also he reported stomach pain before he used substance I imagine when it wore off it made it way worse and made the depression way worse which becomes a vicious cycle. Depression and fear is a vicious cycle plus his wife was a real piece of work.

  • @KoolT

    @KoolT

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bravo

  • @india239
    @india2394 жыл бұрын

    I’m a qualified psychiatric nurse. Many years ago, while working as a nurse I became so depressed I needed inpatient treatment. The most frightening thing was when I thought that if I killed myself my parents could say to my son I got run over. The main thing that halted that thought process was I still had some insight and I k ew what the consequences would be for my son if he was to lose his mother this way Depression is so hard for those who haven’t experienced it to understand

  • @leejay1936

    @leejay1936

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so grateful you d got out of that deep black pit. The consequences for families are devastating and kids of parents who suicide are at high risk of taking the same path. How did you get out of the depression?

  • @sludge8506

    @sludge8506

    Ай бұрын

    When my brother did the deed, my dad told me that he was tempted to tell people that he died some other way, but decided against that.

  • @TODDZEN
    @TODDZEN4 жыл бұрын

    As a person who lives with Major Depression I thought your analysis of Kurt Cobain was very insightful. Cobain wrote a song, "I hate myself and want to die". That captures the disease perfectly. The disease attacks your sense of self. It is relentless.

  • @user-xb5hs4jz1l

    @user-xb5hs4jz1l

    2 жыл бұрын

    L bozo

  • @n9zmn

    @n9zmn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea it’s terrible. The most distressful of all psychic ailments, and likely the most horrible thing one can experience. Been there. No buono.

  • @TheCitedAviator

    @TheCitedAviator

    Жыл бұрын

    "you know you're right" also heavily portrays his thoughts that people would be better off without him

  • @vicvega3614

    @vicvega3614

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheCitedAviator yeah he wrote songs like those and yet we still have morons who still say he was murdered

  • @erikastoncius6560

    @erikastoncius6560

    Жыл бұрын

    That song was written sarcastically, Kurt had said it was a joke and not serious! Brush up on your Nirvana.

  • @devinluoto873
    @devinluoto8734 жыл бұрын

    I struggle with severe anxiety and depression. I grew up with pretty much the exact same issues as Kurt did. Alot in common, it's almost scary...Everyday is a struggle... But his music honestly saved my life...

  • @oxxy6678

    @oxxy6678

    2 жыл бұрын

    Heroin time ❤ :) its underrated

  • @lugal-zage-si4782
    @lugal-zage-si47824 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the mental health and personality analyses of famous people and killers and stuff, but I think my absolute favorite of your videos are the case studies about various different disorders. So interesting.

  • @bertzerker747

    @bertzerker747

    4 жыл бұрын

    so often integrated 🙏

  • @irmawatifebriani8459

    @irmawatifebriani8459

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too, but i love this new series too

  • @violetlove1893

    @violetlove1893

    3 жыл бұрын

    Personality disorders are more interesting for me too. I am shocked by the abnormal pyschology topics we covered in college & it was just sick!! I didnt get to finish the class so it would be interesting to learn about weirdos that like being defecated on or puked on. Dr. Grande, why?? Why does that happen to ppl??

  • @trace9657

    @trace9657

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree, I found Dr. Grande's channel recently and I have come across some older videos like case studies or general analysis of various disorders and I appreciate those..

  • @julilla1
    @julilla14 жыл бұрын

    I'm within a few years of Cobain's age, so I had a lot of friends who were similarly devastated by their parents divorce. There weren't manuals of best guidance for how to split, how to share custody, how to co-parent children at that time. Basically one day the parents would tell you that they were getting a divorce. One party moved out right away. Formerly stay at home moms were suddenly working full time, creating the "latch key" kids, usually with a lower standard of living. Vicious custody battles were not uncommon, and courts didn't think to protect kids, they often put them in the middle asking them who they wanted to live with, etc. It was harder for those children than it should have been because divorce hadn't been as widespread before. Most grandparents disapproved of their children divorcing, and would often tell their grandchildren that they should have stayed together "for the kids", i.e. you. Your school friends treated you like the worst imaginable thing in the world just happened to you. It terrified children and yes, had a lasting and deep impression on Gen X kids who went through it in the 70s.

  • @lilafeldman8630

    @lilafeldman8630

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are so right. Divorce can be very traumatic for children, for some more than others. But back in that generation, it was kind of a new thing to have such high divorce rates.

  • @blueorangeblossom

    @blueorangeblossom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes we have some better programs now but it’s still very hard for children of divorce. It literally tears families apart. It is confusing for children who are now expected to cope with the fact that mom and dad split but now live with new partners or have replacements for mom or dad. Or they are married into new families with new siblings and little children are expected to adapt to the environment and pretend like it’s okay; but also normal. Divorce is harder on children then on parents. The parents make a natural choice to have a sexual relationship with someone, but they children cannot divorce a father or mother; nor can they replace them. Except surrogates

  • @edwhite7475

    @edwhite7475

    4 жыл бұрын

    i have exactly the opposite experience....my parents stayed together and i was always proud of them and felt fortunate cos they stuck it out... but i was wrong....i didnt begin to understand WHY till i began to study psychology. My Mom was a covert narc and my Dad was in the Navy overseas 6 months out of every year. and even though TWO psychiatrists told me to 'pretend she was DEAD' and go no contact, i couldnt....and i suffered tremendously all my life for it....even up to 60 years old. I dont trust the court system, i believe THEY cause as many problems as they claim to solve,but i know we DO have a better understanding of the issues these days. I cant really say if id been better off any other way, except that maybe if id went to college and studied psychology, ( which was my only possible interest in higher education )...but i wasnt financially able. Thank goodness for KZread and my own curiosity.

  • @lilyw.719

    @lilyw.719

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful explanation! I'm shocked that Dr. Grande doesn't know that broken homes and/or single mothers always have been and still are one of the top three causes of poverty and crime. Coming from a broken home usually always messes a kid up good. Divorce definitely wasn't just hard on kids in the 1970's, even though it became more common later When I was 15 in 1994, I thought my parents were get divorced that year, and it was still one of the worst things that could possibly happen to you as a kid. I didn't know anybody whose parents were divorced either. Divorce definitely was and is not normal amongst a better class of people with values. It mostly still something that only degenerates do. It's simply more common because Western Civilization and Western values are in rapid decline.

  • @kirstenbakker839

    @kirstenbakker839

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree, divorce can be extremely traumatic for children. One of my classmates tragically took his own life at age 10 or 11 at least in part due to being unable to cope with his parents divorce. The poor kid had been crying in class almost daily since the divorce happened and he just wasn't himself anymore. (This must have been around the year 1997)

  • @Afrocanuk
    @Afrocanuk2 жыл бұрын

    I find often times these problems start off as early childhood abuse. In turn this leads to the drug use.

  • @brianwalsh1401

    @brianwalsh1401

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. I recommend watching Dr, Gabor Mate videos if you haven't seen them already. He's got a great understanding of the relationship between drug addiction and early childhood trauma and or neglect or abuse.

  • @notyyyy
    @notyyyy4 жыл бұрын

    Hi doctor, i suffer from major depression and just wanted to say that hearing your thoughts on the detriment of depression is very strangely comforting. Its nice to hear someone who i know is competent and well versed in a subject matter like depression give a well rounded explanation of depression that shows they understand the insufferable feeling of disordered depression without, presumably, feeling it themselves. I'm not sure why but it makes me feel a little less crazy in this crazy world hahaha. I really enjoyed this video. thank you.

  • @SinisterMud

    @SinisterMud

    11 ай бұрын

    You need to understand that it is a humane thing. We are stuck in this society and there is no one standing up to resolve this prison. Depression makes you feel very alone and constantly dealing with all these thoughts makes you soooo tired! So yes, it is so difficult to move on. I hope you are still alive, my friend!

  • @terjehansen0101

    @terjehansen0101

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe try to get a good posture or something ? I am serious. Many people suffer from the "sack of potatoes depression". Get it in order.

  • @louisehesse8600
    @louisehesse86004 жыл бұрын

    Never clicked so fast! It's going to be a treat to hear your opinions on Kurt.

  • @55shocked55

    @55shocked55

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right

  • @paddyt4043

    @paddyt4043

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @blackriverbailey

    @blackriverbailey

    4 жыл бұрын

    Louise Hesse ...SAME!

  • @charlesleger6787

    @charlesleger6787

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why dont u hook up with the doc then ^^ im jokin i feel u

  • @surfingthedarkness

    @surfingthedarkness

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same! I loove Kurt Cobain, i loove Dr. Grande 🥰

  • @northerngirl1637
    @northerngirl16374 жыл бұрын

    Being a working musician, playing 6 nights a week and traveling on the 7th for years, you can get burned out on the thing you loved and that motivated you for your whole life. Losing that is incredibly depressing. I even stopped listening to music for years.

  • @THE.N1KO

    @THE.N1KO

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope you are doing well.

  • @sweet_southern_gal
    @sweet_southern_gal4 жыл бұрын

    I remember when he passed away, my heart broke then as a teenager and seeing this video brought those feelings up again. Rest peacefully Kurt.❤

  • @PlacebkaValo
    @PlacebkaValo3 жыл бұрын

    He reminds me so much of my best friend who ended his life three years ago... We used to listen to Nirvana a lot together but I had no idea he was suicidal. It was so devastating, he was 28, just a year older than Kurt.

  • @playsaboutmycat

    @playsaboutmycat

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry about the loss of your friend.

  • @goldshieldinthedark

    @goldshieldinthedark

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most people that are truly suicidal don't mention the idea to anyone and when they are going to attempt suicide they plan it out in ways as to not be interrupted or interfered with. They have a plan in mind with a clear strategy to succeed. Most will seem happy right before this and speak in paste tense. This is when they ultimately made thier decision to set thier plan in motion in the near future. When someone is depressed and seeking help they often mention suicide because it is a cry for help. These type of people are looking for an alternative to suicide and leave suicide as a last resort. 💔

  • @Catlily5

    @Catlily5

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@goldshieldinthedark That is a myth. Some people talk about suicide and still kill themselves. Edit: Well, you did say that suicide is a last resort. Some people think people will never do it if they talk about it but that is not true. It could happen.

  • @Jojos25

    @Jojos25

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry about your loss, I also had a friend who committed suicide in 2016 when she was 25. I met her in high school and she was both weird and cool and did drugs and struggled with depression at times but I never imagined that she would actually end up killing herself.

  • @PlacebkaValo

    @PlacebkaValo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Jojos25 I'm also sorry for your loss, this is horrible...

  • @jamesk7256
    @jamesk72564 жыл бұрын

    I haven't watched yet but I'm calling it now: Somewhat high in openness to experience, somewhat low in conscientiousness, low in extraversion, somewhat high in agreeableness, and high in neuroticism.

  • @gonzojr.8648

    @gonzojr.8648

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm totally jealous cuz I want to be able to do the OCEAN thing! Im still trying to memorize the dang acronym! lol

  • @booradley0x0

    @booradley0x0

    4 жыл бұрын

    So close!!

  • @maeahem

    @maeahem

    4 жыл бұрын

    Almost... 👌🏾

  • @jamesk7256

    @jamesk7256

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gonzojr.8648 I readily memorized the various factors of personality, but I've actually looked into several different models of personality which use different acronyms, so the OCEAN acronym takes me a while sometimes. Researchers had independently converged on the idea of these five broad categories to personality. There are some models with six factors, too, but most seem to agree on these five. Despite it being the most empirical model we have, I do actually feel somewhat ambivalent about it. There are subcategories to the five traits to explain this, but… how many people do you know who are highly intellectual and curious about math and science, yet don't value the arts and humanities, but not vice versa? Those are both measured by Openness - yet, are they really the same thing? That there are subcategories to account for this doesn't fully satisfy me.

  • @jamesk7256

    @jamesk7256

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@booradley0x0 I posted ASAP without even thinking much. Kurt was just the perfect embodiment of the anguished musician that it's hard to imagine him not scoring that way; it's just a matter of pegging the granular position along the continuum.

  • @nosamos847
    @nosamos8474 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on Courtney Love? or maybe on why people seem to think that she killed Kurt. I think that would be interesting

  • @rfq84

    @rfq84

    4 жыл бұрын

    The motive is obvious, money but I agree, a video on her would be interesting

  • @franky2347

    @franky2347

    4 жыл бұрын

    I second this

  • @franmellor9843

    @franmellor9843

    4 жыл бұрын

    Remember seeing CL at Goodwood she was extremely laaaaate!! Took to the stage and insulted everyone including the hosts ,...woukd be a good one though

  • @mzavros

    @mzavros

    4 жыл бұрын

    She did.

  • @missviolette22

    @missviolette22

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see this too.

  • @violetlove1893
    @violetlove18933 жыл бұрын

    Depression alone is a haunting phantom. Add drugs to the mix and there is nothing left but a deep pit. Thanks for doing this one, Dr.. It's so sad that he is dead

  • @Youwinmeta
    @Youwinmeta4 жыл бұрын

    The best description of severe depression I have ever seen. And the most compassionate

  • @patteegee9506
    @patteegee95064 жыл бұрын

    Wow! This was the only compassionate analysis I have ever come across regarding the suicide of Kurt Cobain and the depression he suffered. I think you are spot on and explain it well. He wasn't some druggy that just did himself in. He suffered severe mental health issues which lead to him ending his pain. So sad. Thank you Dr. Grande for another thorough analysis!

  • @kyliejones8827

    @kyliejones8827

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree. He wasn't a "druggy" who "just did himself in." The evidence strongly points towards murder and not suicide. I'm currently researching this...interesting. 🤔

  • @evanclealand9231

    @evanclealand9231

    3 жыл бұрын

    The doc is dead wrong on this to presume suicide, Courtney is guilty af.

  • @califtom

    @califtom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kyliejones8827 what a crock. there's not a shred of evidence for any murder conspiracy.

  • @kyliejones8827

    @kyliejones8827

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@califtom ok 👌 Still researching.... 😁

  • @califtom

    @califtom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kyliejones8827 what's the source of your research? conspiracy theory websites and KZread videos? there's not a shred of physical evidence for any murder

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY4 жыл бұрын

    “Sometimes the people around you won’t understand your journey. They don’t need to, it’s not for them.” --Joubert Botha

  • @doofy28

    @doofy28

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's the problem with our current society. Everyone tries to fit in instead of freely thinking. Juvenile emotional reactions are best left in the cave man era but our country runs on them.

  • @taniat.4841

    @taniat.4841

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah and it sucks

  • @junedeck1599
    @junedeck15994 жыл бұрын

    I want to thank you for your compassionate discussion of depression. I have suffered all my life and never has anyone spoken with so much empathy. You also brought up some points about KC that I had never read about or seen discussed and those points from his childhood go a long way to explaining some things about him. Yes friends out there don't buy a gun for a friend who shows signs of depression...tell them you are a felon if you have to just do not do it!!!!!

  • @EdieSexwitch
    @EdieSexwitch2 жыл бұрын

    2 things. I think he felt hopeless that his marriage was failing and divorce was imminent. With Kurt he really wanted to have that one person he could count on. He thought it was Courtney and when he found out she was not it, he felt super defeated. That and I really think he wanted to quit and be away from public life for a bit but was constantly pressured by others due to money. Also I think he battled internal conflict with leaving fame and being forgotten. I think he was severely conflicted by fame, wanting and hating it. That added with addiction and depression, he just felt like ending the whole book instead of seeing it as a chapter and just closing the chapter and starting a new one. I don’t think he had the energy tbh with his physical ailments and mental ones to start over. I miss Kurt a lot. I grew up with him. I thought he was a genius.

  • @kylereece1979

    @kylereece1979

    3 ай бұрын

    I was 14 when he passed. I was in Paris on a school trip initially having the time of my life, the sheer dreamlike excitement of being out of my homeland (Ireland) for the first time. I remember later on the Friday April 8th, with my circle of friends trying to process what we just heard, and why it happened. At 14, it was impossible to digest and analyse things. I agree with the "Conflict" you mention.👍 Here was a man who, loved/hated the aspects of fame. His conflict of a possible divorce with Courtney in horrid league with the lifelong Blight on his mind via his own parents separation. He must have felt that he was reliving it again via Frances getting parental partition should he and Courtney even split. Imposter Syndrome, Self Sabotage kicking in regarding feeling "not deserving" acclaim and admiration, leading and lending more guilt. It especially hurts when we know who else was thinking of him, looking to reach out to him. Michael Stipe wanted to fly him to Atlanta to chill out, maybe work on music together. Imagine that: Music inthe vein of "Unplugged" and "Automatic for the People". 👍 Neil Young wanted to talk to him, tell him to just get out and away. Kurts dark hue of depression hung over him , cloaking his sight. He couldnt see that elder statepeople of music he liked wanted to work with him, talk to him. Anyway mate, just wanted to say that I liked your words.👍 Since the 30th anniversary of his passing Ive been reading comments like that, listening even more to Nirvana again. 👍

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira50194 жыл бұрын

    OMG I can’t believe you did Kurt Cobain!! I couldn’t click fast enough!!! What a tragic death. There is no mercy with depression and substance use on top of that does not help. Really sad. I loved this video! While we are here can you make a video on Michael Hutchence? There is a documentary that came out last year called Mystify: Michael Hutchence. I continue to be a huge fan of INXS.😊 Thank you for this video Dr. Grande!❤️

  • @lindseystein9676

    @lindseystein9676

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh there’s a Michael Hutchins documentary? I’m going to have to find it. My mom was a huge INXS fan when I was really little and she was devastated by his death. As an adult, I’m a fan of INXS when Michael Hutchins was the singer (I think they replaced him at some point if I remember correctly). He had an amazing voice and was very attractive.

  • @juliaf7068

    @juliaf7068

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rejane I agree. The songs were brilliant. Very interested

  • @Grace-zo2lg

    @Grace-zo2lg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Mike H. Of Inxs is a fantastic suggestion! Jim Morrison of The Doors would also be very interesting!

  • @rejaneoliveira5019

    @rejaneoliveira5019

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tʀᴀᴠɪꜱᴛʏ - Yes, Jim Morrison too!😃

  • @mollykeane2571

    @mollykeane2571

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was so obviously bumped off. So much heroin was found in his system he wouldn’t have been able to lift the gun let alone pull the trigger!

  • @shariberry3123
    @shariberry31234 жыл бұрын

    I have a friend who was in the Army, stationed in Washington state. There was a bar just outside the gates that he used to go to. He would go in and listen to a band, they were the loudest band he ever heard. He really liked the singer, the band was Nirvana.

  • @unagjac890

    @unagjac890

    3 жыл бұрын

    WHAATT!!??

  • @soft_serve_666

    @soft_serve_666

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whoa!! That is too cool.

  • @mytoesarecold5555

    @mytoesarecold5555

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m jealous

  • @iwackadoodleyourmarbles9220

    @iwackadoodleyourmarbles9220

    3 жыл бұрын

    What a cool story, what year was that?

  • @PaulWildstar

    @PaulWildstar

    Жыл бұрын

    Nirvana who?

  • @CL-lo4wd
    @CL-lo4wd3 жыл бұрын

    I am deeply touched by how you explain the way in which depression warps perception. So clear and accurate. It is , indeed, “a formidable foe”

  • @farangisehsani592
    @farangisehsani5923 жыл бұрын

    Cobain was very sensitive and fragile. He had an innocent soul. I've never heard him cheating or violate anyone. We always love him for his art and we know his value, although he himself couldn't know. God bless him.

  • @annaheff7332
    @annaheff73324 жыл бұрын

    Aw, Kurt. I think anyone who has suffered from depression can really relate to some of the things he said in his note. Like when he said he is too sensitive, that really resonates. It’s difficult when things happen that other people can just brush off but you can’t. I didn’t really know other people felt like that too.

  • @cindylu607
    @cindylu6074 жыл бұрын

    Kurt Cobain's story really shows how depression is really deadly, no matter how great of a life you may have. Thank you for all the great content!

  • @romcc123
    @romcc1234 жыл бұрын

    Loved how you described depression at the end of the video. It’s hard to explain depression to someone who has not experienced it. Thank you for helping put it into words. Keep doing you Dr Grande.

  • @leddbedd4812
    @leddbedd48123 жыл бұрын

    Another insightful video, Doc. I firmly believe that anybody that says suicide is the easy way out doesn’t fully understand depression. R.I.P, Kurt 🙌🏻

  • @rhubarbc4373
    @rhubarbc43734 жыл бұрын

    Watching this video and seeing the different images of Cobain make me realise just how unhappy he really was. Nirvana were a little before my time. I know next to nothing about him, but he has such dead eyes in absolutely every picture. What a tragic loss.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019

    @rejaneoliveira5019

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @bertzerker747

    @bertzerker747

    4 жыл бұрын

    Seems they didn't have much time to conceal the doom and gloom. Appears he didn't want the joy of success 🙏

  • @rejaneoliveira5019

    @rejaneoliveira5019

    4 жыл бұрын

    Robert Boyle - I may be wrong, but I think that with depression the person loses all the desires, even the desire for joy and success. The inability to feel pleasure or anhedonia that many times accompanies depression is excruciating too, part of being a human being is being able to experience these emotions. Depression is a very serious condition and unfortunately so many people suffer from this disease. Sad.

  • @juliasugarbaker9032

    @juliasugarbaker9032

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kurt had become the voice of an entire generation who were depressed and apathetic when they saw the way the world worked, both economically and socially. Gen X was and still is consistently overlooked, their concerns marginalized. Because the boomers outnumbered them, they had no power to create change. Forced to adapt or be homeless, many chose the latter. Kurt was one of those many. He hated being the voice of an entire generation. Central to his message was a rejection of what he saw as the crude, commercial motive of labelling an age group. Once he had gained everything you were supposed to want, he was still unhappy, still hated himself, still hated the world, still felt like a fraud. A whole generation felt that, that’s why we loved him so. His message resonated. Around 1993-ish Nirvana went from the underground alternative music scene into pop culture, many of his original core fans believed he had become the worst thing you could be as a young person in the early 90’s, a sellout, part of the machine. I think deep down he believed it too. We all became that eventually. We had no choice. “I’d rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.”- Kurt Cobain.

  • @Peaceful-Sheep

    @Peaceful-Sheep

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@juliasugarbaker9032 You got it exactly right. I remember.

  • @JSandra98
    @JSandra984 жыл бұрын

    I have always been confident in wanting to work as a psychologist. Since studying psychology at uni, I lost some of that spark. However, you really brought back my interest and I feel excited to continue. Thank you and I love the videos 🖤

  • @mrwassef

    @mrwassef

    4 жыл бұрын

    What made you lose the spark? Curious because I have my bachelors in psych and going into it initially I was excited, but as I progressed through the coursework i found myself less interested. For me it was the lack of emphasis on studying personality/behavior, and a ton of emphasis on research methods (which I know is very important in justifying psychology as a scientific pursuit). But still I wish there was more focus on personality and behavior. Which is why I love Dr Grande’s videos. This channel def sparks my interest back for psych.

  • @JSandra98

    @JSandra98

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mike Wassef For me it’s a combination of things. Firstly, just so much “dry” content. It’s theories, surnames, and facts that you have to know. Not many subjects looked beyond the text into real life application. I see people from other degrees participating in clinical settings (even brief) but me? 3 years of reading, reading, and memorising. Not much about what interests me either. Lastly, it’s the pressure to do well to continue. My uni doesn’t have many supervisors (for thesis and further studies) so they take the top people. Very stressful 😩 Hope it gets better for us! Probably just have to survive the boring fundamental areas to progress to the interesting content 🤞🏻

  • @davidduncan9201

    @davidduncan9201

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am studying psychology as well and because it is so broad there are lots of areas that we need to study that aren't going to interest us. There is a lot more to psychology than just clinical psychology. But keep going and eventually you will be able to specialise in your area of interest.

  • @katarzynafrasca5137
    @katarzynafrasca51376 ай бұрын

    As a Gestalt therapist I see a lot of shame and guilt related to the anger in the Kurt's notes. The anger appeared probably in early childhood as a consequence of the familiar system situation and probably haven't been heard with empathy and acceptance - I assume the father have sent him to mental health counselor in order to "fix" his issues and symptoms as a kid, when in the reality the good step would be the family therapy joined together to understand the root cause of Kurt's anger. This could cause the depression in a long therm. These are of course just some of my ipotesis. Sorry if the English wasn't perfect. :) Thank You Dr Todd Grande for Your analysis. :)

  • @Youwinmeta
    @Youwinmeta4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for such a thoughtful discussion of depression and substance abuse. I want people to see this video because - from my experience - you describe it so accurately and compassionately. It is a lovely gift to those that have felt this kind of depression. also a gift in that it may help to take the guilt away once depression becomes really just a memory. I’m so grateful and will share this video with friends and family.

  • @elonthehill3500
    @elonthehill35004 жыл бұрын

    As someone with chronic pain, I have always blamed the lack of care from doctors. He lived with this pain untreated and tried to medicate. Not sure if it would have turned out differently, but it was a contributing factor.

  • @escapeplan4

    @escapeplan4

    Ай бұрын

    he has money to seek help

  • @zoltano_cortez
    @zoltano_cortez4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for these videos, especially the ones where you discuss depression. Often people who don't have depression themselves see it as attention seeking behavior and this makes it difficult for me to have a dialogue with them about it... your videos help a great deal in understanding and making sense of things so I just wanted to thank you for making them.

  • @victorialemonpie3354
    @victorialemonpie33544 жыл бұрын

    Dr. G, I really feel the part, when Kurt says that loving to much is too painful :( 💖

  • @thomasthecat6546
    @thomasthecat65464 жыл бұрын

    Having two suicides in my immediate family, (gunshots to the head), this explanation of depression & substance use/abuse (i listened to it 4 times) was a highlight of understanding for me. thank you for the clarity.

  • @sabbracadabra8367

    @sabbracadabra8367

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cobain had I think 3 suicides in his recent family history. He talked about it. He also tried Prozac which made him sick. I think that was the only antidepressant back then.

  • @roadrunner9622

    @roadrunner9622

    2 жыл бұрын

    I experienced depression twice in my life, for days only. I never judge someone who can't take it anymore.

  • @run2yah4salvation35

    @run2yah4salvation35

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m so sorry. Both my Dad and his younger brother died the same way. After my Dad died I realized how many of the risk factors he had.

  • @bunnybgood411

    @bunnybgood411

    Жыл бұрын

    I am so sorry for the loss of two of your family members.

  • @Prometheuspredator

    @Prometheuspredator

    10 ай бұрын

    So very sorry about the loss of your family members. Depression is truly a horrible disease.

  • @m3rrys0ngstr3ss
    @m3rrys0ngstr3ss4 жыл бұрын

    Holy abandonment issues, Batman - I was hearing about how he got bounced between his dad, his mom and his friends, and all I could think was "This guy never knew stability, did he?" My father had something similar happen to him when he was young - there were a few years where my grandmother had serious depressive episodes and it wasn't safe for the kids to be around her, so she had to go to the hospital; this meant my dad and his younger sister had to stay with aunts and uncles, sometimes on very short notice. He's since been to therapy and understands why this was a measure for his safety, but he said the hurt stayed with him for years.

  • @melaniewilliams1351
    @melaniewilliams13514 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande, would you consider doing a similar analysis of the late Amy Winehouse? She was quite troubled, but also very self-aware & introspective!

  • @BeingBetter

    @BeingBetter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm down for seeing that.

  • @lucyywlmwia

    @lucyywlmwia

    4 жыл бұрын

    🙌🙌

  • @franmellor9843

    @franmellor9843

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mee TOO

  • @patteegee9506

    @patteegee9506

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, please consider doing an analysis of Amy Winehouse!

  • @jill8037

    @jill8037

    4 жыл бұрын

    Please

  • @tony--james
    @tony--james2 жыл бұрын

    "Heavier than Heaven" is a great book. It really does show that Kurt Cobain wasn't just depressed. He was seriously seriously unwell, physically and mentally.

  • @jeffersonaraujoelcristiano

    @jeffersonaraujoelcristiano

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember I read that book many years ago... I think it was in the year 2017 and I read one third of the book or 150 pages approximately... His luck was so unfortunately.

  • @erikastoncius6560

    @erikastoncius6560

    Жыл бұрын

    That book is a bunch of bs! Any true Cobain fan knows it!

  • @chestrockwell6807

    @chestrockwell6807

    Жыл бұрын

    @@erikastoncius6560 and what makes you an authority on the subject?

  • @adrenalinflow

    @adrenalinflow

    10 ай бұрын

    We tend to separate the physical health from the mental health but really they’re both important to each other and part of the same system that is a human being. If you want to feel better mentally take care of your physical body and vice-versa

  • @Black_Blow_Fly

    @Black_Blow_Fly

    8 ай бұрын

    One of many biographies paid to be written by Courtney Love.

  • @katherinesavage8059
    @katherinesavage80594 жыл бұрын

    I love the way you describe depression. Also I would add that every human has basic needs and when they're not being met, depression naturally takes hold.

  • @mrs.reluctant4095
    @mrs.reluctant40954 жыл бұрын

    It was hard for me, when he killed himself. He was one of the very, very few persons, who had the power to make me feel 'not alone'. I always found and still find his music very uplifting for that reason, not depressing at all and I'm very grateful that he existed. Thank you, doctor. 🌹

  • @franmellor9843

    @franmellor9843

    4 жыл бұрын

    Smells like teen spirit..his best !

  • @rebelo2156

    @rebelo2156

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dannyperfect9270 For anyone reading the baseless, shallow comment above and who may be leaning towards it, just remember that it's an easy out to imagine Kurt wouldn't do what he did and it's an easy out to blame it on something/someone else, especially to blame it on Courtney. To be objective, we can't take easy outs just because they may make us feel better...the evidence supports that he did it (the hereditary factors, his art, his notebooks, his depression, his substance abuse, his previous suicide attempt in Rome, and what was extrapolated from the scene of his death). Not to mention the fact that Courtney revived him after the 1993 heroin overdose and rushed him to the hospital after the 1994 Rohypnol overdose. If she wanted him dead, she could have left him in a coma in one of the hotel rooms until he actually died, then called 911 acting shocked and devastated..instead of going through the risky attempt to have him shot. Don't give into emotional thinking, you're better than that. I'm sad about Kurt too, but am so grateful we have his music and his memory. Let's see your homework, Danny... And do you think that Kurt's mom, sister, daughter, Aunt Mary, bandmates Krist, Dave, Pat, and his best friend Dylan are all dishonoring him because they all accept he committed suicide? How do you explain his previous suicide attempt in Rome? Just a coincidence? How do you explain his depression and substance abuse? It's such an ignorant and unscholarly thing to do...to claim he was murdered, provide no evidence, and scoff at someone telling them to do homework.

  • @rebelo2156

    @rebelo2156

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dannyperfect9270 @Danny Perfect Well, that's presumptuous of you to think I'm a "Courtney sympathizer". So, you think Kurt's mom, sister, daughter, Aunt Mary, Dave, Krist, Pat, and Dylan are all Courtney sympathizers too? It's so easy and shallow to say you have done 25 years of studying the case yet offer no results whatsoever. If you care about people knowing the "truth," then you'd list your evidence. Please do this, I would love to take the time to rebut it all. "Money beats soul" lol, well that's not evidence, that's emotional thinking desperate to make sense of the conspiracy theory. You should just remember, evidence beats wishful thinking.

  • @rebelo2156

    @rebelo2156

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm really curious what your evidence is, and if your 25 years of research is in fact just beliefs from the movie, Soaked in Bleach. I dare you to respond.

  • @mrs.reluctant4095

    @mrs.reluctant4095

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rebelo2156 This demand accidently hit me lol There is an interesting little fight under my comment going on... 🙂

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY4 жыл бұрын

    “Anybody can look at you. It's quite rare to find someone who sees the same world you see.” ― John Green, Turtles All the Way Down

  • @doofy28

    @doofy28

    4 жыл бұрын

    Now imagine having autism with normal or above average IQ.

  • @louise-yo7kz

    @louise-yo7kz

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love John Green

  • @kimmie020
    @kimmie0204 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande, you used the phrase ”Depression distorted reality.” That explains volumes of someone who reaches the point of taking their own life 😢 Seeking professional help is crucial!

  • @CuriousBiscuit
    @CuriousBiscuit4 жыл бұрын

    This was extremely well done... I've been waiting for so long for someone to actually to make this and cover in a medical standpoint of Kurt Cobain since I've always struck a note with him farther than his angst in a sense You can get a lot of subscribers if you keep this up with other famous people like Jim Morrison.

  • @ipsygypsy16
    @ipsygypsy164 жыл бұрын

    Can you please do Karen Carpenter? Also any insight about the psychological profile of personalities with eating disorder would be of great help to many. Thanks Dr.

  • @Crystalquartz964

    @Crystalquartz964

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes please! And Lena Zavaroni

  • @marywilcox3102

    @marywilcox3102

    4 жыл бұрын

    I second that. Karen Carpenter's life was truly tragic.

  • @keldonmcfarland2969

    @keldonmcfarland2969

    4 жыл бұрын

    That was a sad end, Karen Carpenter. We had her Christmas album that we listened to every year.

  • @marywilcox3102

    @marywilcox3102

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@keldonmcfarland2969 Yeah, she was an amazing singer.

  • @jonnuanez2843

    @jonnuanez2843

    3 жыл бұрын

    He did one on Karen. It was the video I saw before this one. It's sad.

  • @AR-pr6mt
    @AR-pr6mt4 жыл бұрын

    Also an excellent summary of depression. Some ppl just don't understand the depth of depression, and wonder why ppl with depression should just get over it and move on. From your summary, it's clear that this is extremely unlikely to happen without treatment and intervention :)

  • @willduke32

    @willduke32

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is no intervention when there is a Courtney Love> Just Murder

  • @alyenestephens4473

    @alyenestephens4473

    2 жыл бұрын

    You sound heartless. You can't just get over depression, SO YOU GET OVER IT.

  • @alyenestephens4473

    @alyenestephens4473

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry , i just reread what you wrote and it didn't say what I thought it said

  • @cherylduckworth8185
    @cherylduckworth8185 Жыл бұрын

    After a sad break up 4 years ago, I seem to have become perpetually depressed. I am functional but get very little joy out of anything. Everything feels like a great big hassle. I don't even enjoy being with people because I feel uptight with most people. It's really a rock and a hard place because I am super lonely but don't want to hang out much-- it's just hard to understand. My brother died 3 months ago. He always picked up the phone and always listened to me and even let me hang up first. That is so hard to replace, in fact, I don't think I'll ever have anybody in my life again that is that tolerant of me. But I keep on jugging along because what else can you do?

  • @Camaink1
    @Camaink14 жыл бұрын

    Never thought depression was so dangerous! Enlightening video!

  • @whatisinanameanyway7356
    @whatisinanameanyway73564 жыл бұрын

    I still remember the first time I heard a Nirvana song, in the early 90's. Before that, everything was very slick and produced, with sound effects and synths in the background. The raw naked instruments Nirvana represented was so different and exciting! Their unplugged on MTV is legendary. They really shaped the sound for the 90's.

  • @sarah2.017

    @sarah2.017

    4 жыл бұрын

    My brother was a college radio DJ in the late 1980s, and a few years later, I asked him if he ever played anything by Nirvana. He said he did, and that if a time traveler had come to him and said that in the fall of 1991, that band would release an album that would hit #1 in almost every country in the world that keeps a music chart, and totally turn popular music on its ear, he'd have said they were nuts. Oh, and who would have thought that the band's drummer (Dave Grohl) was really the heart and soul of that band?

  • @sabbracadabra8367

    @sabbracadabra8367

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sarah2.017 Grohl sucks and had barely any influence on Nirvana.

  • @Catlily5

    @Catlily5

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was 17 when I first heard Nirvana and I hated it. But eventually it grew on me and I ended up liking them.

  • @catherinefisher8534

    @catherinefisher8534

    2 жыл бұрын

    And suddenly grunge was chic - making it quick and easy to get dressed in the mornings

  • @Bearedd

    @Bearedd

    2 жыл бұрын

    You just didn’t hear about the bands Kurt was influenced by…There were already a couple of major bands in the scene making loud distorted music

  • @demmimorelle4654
    @demmimorelle46544 жыл бұрын

    Depression is such an insidious, pervasive, all consuming condition!!! 😔 What a terrific analysis Dr. Grande, I really enjoyed hearing your insights on this poor, tortured soul.

  • @Brandon-a-writer
    @Brandon-a-writer4 жыл бұрын

    For a very long time I thought of my severe stomach pain/chest pain as a mysterious illness and even became addicted to opiates attempting to treat it, though it helped it never truly alleviated the symptoms. It wouldn't be until after an attempted suicide I would receive a prescription for anxiety/generalized anxiety disorder, which was manifest almost entirely in chest and stomach pains of a mysterious origin. For years I went to the ER, thinking I was having a heart attack, thinking I was dying, and eventually ended up taking codeine to help me sleep, and just moved on from there. From a sufferer of anxiety and similar symptoms, I find his complaints very much in line with my own and his behavior was similar. It is possible that if he had proper treatment, he could still be with us. Anxiety is more than just worrying and being nervous, often presenting with near unbearable physical pain, restlessness and insomnia. This case hits a little close to home for me, but your analysis is good and measured. I just discovered your channel, and it's a damn sight better than the majority of would-be mental health channels on YT. cheers

  • @foreverwander0320
    @foreverwander03202 жыл бұрын

    This story always makes me so sad. You handled it with a lot of empathy. Depression is a foe.

  • @POCKET21923
    @POCKET219234 жыл бұрын

    The thought of Courtney Love staging an intervention is both scary and sobering. I know I did drugs just to feel normal. Kids, it doesn't work. It breaks my heart to think he was doing his daughter a favor by ending his life. So sad

  • @willduke32

    @willduke32

    3 жыл бұрын

    And you believe everything you read in the Washington Post

  • @richardreinertson1335

    @richardreinertson1335

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@willduke32 Ooo, Courtney shade. Smells like teen spirit.

  • @califtom

    @califtom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@willduke32 and you believe every loony conspiracy theory

  • @willduke32

    @willduke32

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@califtom these days 9 0ut 0f ten Conspiracy's are true unless you are ignorant

  • @califtom

    @califtom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@willduke32 oh really? name them for me then. are alien abduction conspiracy theories true also?

  • @comanchio1976
    @comanchio19764 жыл бұрын

    That was a really good point about depression, that should be discussed more; it thoroughly warps your reality in a totally devastating way

  • @BrendaBrenTV
    @BrendaBrenTV3 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande, thank you for this. This shed some light on my own depression. This might be my favorite video of yours yet.

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku3 жыл бұрын

    So chilling and deeply sad when you so correctly said how depression is a formidable and merciless foe! Tragic how many people don't get the treatment needed for this condition!

  • @inproper3952
    @inproper39524 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande please give your professional opinion about the personality of O J Simpson, and his fakeness/facade he likes to project and thinks people believe.

  • @gordonbelle1375

    @gordonbelle1375

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that would be a great topic

  • @cdiddy4242

    @cdiddy4242

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like celebrity 101 syndrome. As lucrative as this channel may be for Dr. Grande as a growing side biz, I hope he doesn’t veer into pulp analysis of weekly celebrities as his main source of videos.

  • @tanyavs1

    @tanyavs1

    4 жыл бұрын

    I read OJ's book, If I did It , after it became the property of the Goldman family who was able to receive the profits because they never saw a dime from OJ despite winning a civil wrongful death case and... uh, yeah, I mean, he did it. He murdered Nicole and Ron because he's a jealous, controlling dick. I was relieved when he finally went to jail for unrelated issues because if he got away with murder twice, imagine his ego to get away with it again...

  • @AmirahN
    @AmirahN4 жыл бұрын

    Can you do one on Chester bennington

  • @giganetom

    @giganetom

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this exact comment. Thanks.

  • @DigitalvideotoolsOrg

    @DigitalvideotoolsOrg

    3 жыл бұрын

    I second that.

  • @Terrythetroll.

    @Terrythetroll.

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be good

  • @ushasiroy7497

    @ushasiroy7497

    3 жыл бұрын

    Finally got the comment i was looking for

  • @fridaykillaz

    @fridaykillaz

    3 жыл бұрын

    dia sedih sekali kehilangan sahabatnya Chris Cornell. mungkin dalam artian mereka masing masing punya misi yang sudah diselesaikan. suara perlawanan, perjuangan hidupnya,keluarga mereka sudah lalui. kini mereka telah beristirahat dengan damai.

  • @elisamastromarino7123
    @elisamastromarino71234 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for talking about depression, doctor! I don't remember this man but I've heard his music, and although I don't like it, I do have an affinity for some of his lyrics. Depression is the most stigmatized mental illness there is. Because you're stigmatized by everyone - even doctors and those who love you always expect more from you than you can give. You are seen as lazy when there's really just no reason to it all, no reason to put your feet on the floor. Having been diagnosed with severe depression, I can say: I *_want_* to enjoy the amusement park, I just don't. I am sure Kurt Cobain felt something similar. Thanks again, Dr Grande. 👍🌹

  • @Aponea3
    @Aponea34 жыл бұрын

    Dr Grande, in this context, please do an analysis on Layne Staley. He opened my eyes to the field of mental health struggles and addiction, and his lyricsare the most haunting, his backstory and the end of his life in 2002 are the most crushing of any musician. Its safe to say that thanks to Layne I discovered your channel, eager to try to understand him more. He is so sorely missed 😢

  • @marielleo4715

    @marielleo4715

    8 ай бұрын

    He did not hear your wish! Layne deserves an analyse ,he was a genius too!

  • @canadianmum2040
    @canadianmum20404 жыл бұрын

    Such a sad situation.💔 Good unfolding of the story of his life etc that you did, as usual, thanks for your unique style and efforts in your videos.

  • @briandillpickle
    @briandillpickle4 жыл бұрын

    Great analysis! I especially liked how you touched on the cognitive distortions associated with Kurt Cobain’s depression. Distortions get talked about a lot with personality disorders, but they are present for many people experiencing a depressive episode or persistent depressive disorder as well

  • @hayleybourgault4114
    @hayleybourgault41144 жыл бұрын

    Kurt C. was one of those tortured artists. He had so much talent. His band, his art but if your depressed ( I know ) it's hard to enjoy life.

  • @willduke32

    @willduke32

    3 жыл бұрын

    He did enjoy life until it was ended by Courtney love

  • @bonitadiablo
    @bonitadiablo3 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy listening and learning from your videos. Working in the mental health field, I find your work insightful and very helpful, so thank you for sharing your knowledge and your research.

  • @fritzidler9871
    @fritzidler98714 жыл бұрын

    Good video, Dr. To my mind, Kurt told the world about himself from the beginning; "I feel contagious and stupid." That's depression in a nutshell. It's why depressed people withdraw, they feel their depression is contagious, somehow. Though they often hold their depression proves they are smarter than most people, not stupid. I know I use to. Not that I could, or would, have articulated it that way back then. Depression, along with an often attendant anxiety, tends to swallow one's words, not just feelings. What I use to wonder back then, wordlessly, you might say, is how feeling so empty, could feel so damn painful.

  • @amberjones6162

    @amberjones6162

    3 жыл бұрын

    💚

  • @LauraKnotek

    @LauraKnotek

    Жыл бұрын

    That is spot on. Depression makes one withdraw, since one feels s/he is a "downer" who would only bring others down.

  • @ayepol
    @ayepol4 жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine took her own life about two weeks ago. Thank you for the video. It actually helps a bit to understand...

  • @franky2347

    @franky2347

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for your loss

  • @ayepol

    @ayepol

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @deucela
    @deucela4 жыл бұрын

    Great video as usual. I’d enjoy hearing you discuss Layne Staley, Sid and Nancy, or Scott Weiland in upcoming videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @melissarivera7477
    @melissarivera74774 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for taking my suggestion, much appreciated!!! I relate to his problems mentally. Thank you ❤️

  • @richbarrett6380
    @richbarrett63804 жыл бұрын

    Kurt's daughter Frances was named after actress Frances Farmer, another Seattle native who has a song named after her on In Utero. His affinity towards her was not just that they were artists from the same city, blonde and glamorous, but they both struggled with demons, in Frances' case she was diagnosed with schizophrenia and sectioned on numerous occasions. I'd like to see a case study on her as well.

  • @jeffpincin8549
    @jeffpincin85494 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the analysis of a musician, Dr. Grande. There's a lot there to unpack. Their lives are often very publicized, so we can see some of what contributed to who they are/were. I agree with the suggestion of Chris Cornell, but also Chester Bennington, anybody in the infamous "27 club", Tupac, and The Notorious B.I.G..

  • @colintorrey1442

    @colintorrey1442

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jeff Pincin I 2nd Chris and Chester. Such tragic losses

  • @willduke32

    @willduke32

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@colintorrey1442 Open your eyes and see the world how it really is

  • @califtom

    @califtom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@willduke32 you mean start believing in all the conspiracy theory bullshit you do?

  • @MrJohnverkerk
    @MrJohnverkerk Жыл бұрын

    Dr Grande, I love the way you talk about such a large variety of people without judging them in an insensitive or ignorant way. I appreciate it and thank-you for it. My own life has been a catalogue of people induced mental breakdown or collapse (severe MDD) but I am certain I would be content with any obituary you were to write for me.

  • @christinley5213
    @christinley52134 жыл бұрын

    Omg..u did it...this is one of my faveartist ever..thank you so much dr. Grande!!!

  • @mariaotto6732
    @mariaotto67324 жыл бұрын

    You approached this topic so objectively but also with compassion. Thank you Dr. Grande.

  • @UDCMComedy
    @UDCMComedy4 жыл бұрын

    Who else wonders when he’s going to finish his project in the background?

  • @inproper3952

    @inproper3952

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @classicarah

    @classicarah

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @Prometheuspredator
    @Prometheuspredator10 ай бұрын

    Kurt said he had a good life before his parents' divorce at age 7. After the divorce, Kurt lost himself and had no identity. Imagine how he would have been if his parents did not divorce? His life coexistenced around his family, and he experienced consistent trauma when he was kicked out of his mother's and father's home. Also, he felt lost when his father remarried as other children came into the picture and he was ignored. His depression and acting out started early as he felt alone and that no one understood him as he did not understand himself. He did not receive the parenting he needed as a child, but he was forced to live a transit lifestyle between his mother and father home and at times he lived under a bridge to escape the pain of feeling unwanted. Kurt's depression and severe stomach started at a early age and the pain affected his life. He was always in pain and there were times before his performances, Kurt was bent over or laying on the floor in a fetal position, because of the pain. Story is that his stomach condition started when he was a teenager and that the reason he started using hard drugs was to manage his pain. In time, I believe doctors found out what was causing his stomach pain.

  • @JayBird227
    @JayBird2272 жыл бұрын

    Something odd I’ve noticed about Kurt that I didn’t notice before, he doesn’t get nervous. Not in even in one interview or appearance. Joy and stress are weirdly related, I can now see why he wasn’t wired for happiness…I’m no psychologist but it’s just a mere observation, to have a missing emotion is just a red flag, he was always very deep or just sarcastic, serious, winey, analytical, dissociated, interested or not at all, a true pieces Too

  • @psychcorp4449
    @psychcorp44494 жыл бұрын

    Another very thorough and thoughtful analysis. I would love to hear your assessment of Mary Kay Letourneau who just passed away at age 58 from cancer. Thank you so much.

  • @teresahowick5197

    @teresahowick5197

    4 жыл бұрын

    She died??

  • @sarah2.017

    @sarah2.017

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@teresahowick5197 Yes, she did. Apparently she was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer (don't know what type) very recently.

  • @prometheuspredator7971

    @prometheuspredator7971

    4 жыл бұрын

    She died from colon cancer.

  • @brianwalsh1401

    @brianwalsh1401

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sarah2.017 I think she died from colon cancer.

  • @cassn8725
    @cassn87254 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for covering him Dr Grande. l was a teenager when he passed. I liked Kurt's voice and his ability to write great lyrics and great music, their unplugged stuff is my favourite. Him also being able to communicate his pain and life through music. It helped me and really I think he had such talent and I'm sorry he is gone.

  • @mil182
    @mil1824 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Dr. Grande, for making this video! I continue to look forward to the great content you continue to provide!

  • @shnoogums1
    @shnoogums14 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir for the closing statement and description of depression. It’s something I’ve always struggled to comprehend so very enlightening

  • @annabelapurva-madhuri4861
    @annabelapurva-madhuri48614 жыл бұрын

    Please please please do Elliot Smith! Like this comment if you agree so Dr Grande sees 🙋🏻‍♀️🥰

  • @KindMeg

    @KindMeg

    4 жыл бұрын

    But Elliot Smith was murdered by his girlfriend. Probably should investigate HER mental health, no?

  • @davidcopson5800

    @davidcopson5800

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@KindMeg His death was deemed inconclusive, not murder.

  • @KindMeg

    @KindMeg

    4 жыл бұрын

    David Copson I could care less if the corrupt authorities “deemed (it) inconclusive” because the truth is that he was murdered! Get me?

  • @goldiedustwoman5797

    @goldiedustwoman5797

    4 жыл бұрын

    Annabel Igoe yes!! It would be so interesting!

  • @goldiedustwoman5797

    @goldiedustwoman5797

    4 жыл бұрын

    CellarDoor33 what’s interesting is that his girlfriend was a mental health professional! She was an art therapist. I’d love to hear Dr. Grande’s thoughts on that situation.

  • @2legit2Kwit
    @2legit2Kwit4 жыл бұрын

    I live 30 min from Aberdeen, Wa. A great documentary about the circumstances surrounding his death is “Soaked in Bleach.” It presents a different perspective. Kurt was an artistic and emotional modern day woke musical poet. He would be 52 today. Gone way too soon. RIP Kurt

  • @kazan9962

    @kazan9962

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Going to watch Soaked in Bleach right now on Amazon Prime.

  • @divadory1110

    @divadory1110

    4 жыл бұрын

    I watched that. I just don't think Courtney Love was smart enough to plan his death, and his depression was well documented.

  • @kazan9962

    @kazan9962

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting and well made documentary. They say the truth always comes out eventually.

  • @bobbyologun1517

    @bobbyologun1517

    4 жыл бұрын

    What did you think of John Potash's book on Kurt & Courtney

  • @rebelo2156

    @rebelo2156

    3 жыл бұрын

    Soaked in Bleach is an exploitation movie masquerading as a documentary. It uses mood music and staged performances in order to appeal to your emotions... The basis of its claims are not founded on evidence but are merely conspiracy theory. And no one who was close to Kurt believes he didn't kill himself. I miss him and I know it's hard to accept, but imagining he wouldn't do that in order to make us feel better is irresponsible wishful thinking. If you care about being objective and correct, don't just give into confirmation bias by seeking out conspiracy movies or info that supports what you want to believe... also have the courage to look up information that can disprove what you want to believe... search "Soaked in Bleach controversy," "Tom Grant credibility," "are no liftable fingerprints on guns common," "Carole Chaski suicide note verdict Cobain," "Cobain previous suicide attempt" and see where the evidence takes you... I dare you to respect your mind enough to do this. Take care.

  • @gordonbelle1375
    @gordonbelle13754 жыл бұрын

    I never truly understood depression and how it affects the individual suffering from it until just now. Thank you for the detailed and easy to understand explanation.

  • @alliarsenic
    @alliarsenic4 жыл бұрын

    I love the idea of doing these videos on celebrities. I hope you keep them coming, Dr. Grande.

  • @tito.tarantula
    @tito.tarantula4 жыл бұрын

    Kudos on how clearly and concisely you are able to present the facts, Dr. Grande. These are definitely one of the many lessons I‘ve learned from watching your videos.

  • @andrayellowpenguin
    @andrayellowpenguin4 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow this is such a great description of depression. I always struggle to explain it to people... Family and friends try to help but they can't understand why you feel the way you do, and i can understand that because rationally it makes no sense. But knowing that doesn't make it go away, it just makes me feel worse, more of a parasite. :(

  • @jara8653
    @jara86534 жыл бұрын

    "Lesson learned" segment is highly appreciated.

  • @estelle9414
    @estelle94142 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande, excellent analysis of this young man and an insightful understanding of depressive illness and substance abuse. They do work hand in hand in terms of perpetuating the cycle of mental illness episodes and increasing chemical dependency issues. Thanks for your contributions, as always.

  • @SwedePotato314
    @SwedePotato3144 жыл бұрын

    I am SO HAPPY to be here so early for this! When I saw the notification for Dr. Todd and Kurt I couldn't get here fast enough. I'm 33 a d have loved Kurt since I was a child. I was young but I remember his passing. Theres a lot more to it, but as I got older and thru my experiences I was able to relate to him and his music on such a spiritual level. I had idolized this man. My AIM screen name in middle school and high school was KurtCisGod69 (2edgy4me, I know). I was convinced for years that I would be party of that club 27 myself, at the oldest. I got clean years ago, and I just wish he had had the what he needed when he needed it most. Sorry for long rant but I want to thank you for doing this. Great video. As soon as I am back to work full time again I will be jumping on Patreon for you.

  • @karenswartz8280
    @karenswartz82804 жыл бұрын

    Depression = The great social equalizer. “...a merciless foe that takes a great deal of energy to combat it” Sometimes you just run out of energy...

  • @cullenmacgillivary6669
    @cullenmacgillivary66693 жыл бұрын

    Love that you mentioned about depression as negating any positive, as someone who suffers mental health issues and been to treatment center and currently work in healthcare. It is hard to battle black and white thinking and categorical mistakes. The distortion of reality is a great point, because the world is different from the self. When you say things like the world is bad, you can’t make judgments for the whole world, maybe your world is bad but not everyone else’s. Great video doc

  • @commonsense2680
    @commonsense2680 Жыл бұрын

    I am a huge fan of Nirvana and was right from the beginning. It was like meeting my musical soulmate when I heard the lyrics, melody, guitars, drums, everything appealed to me. I realize now that this was because the whole "grunge" movement was about people suffering from depression (which I was diagnosed with a while after Kurt died) so most of the music really hit my heart. As a result I was truly heartbroken when he died. I felt like Cobain could understand me, but I think he was upset because he didn't think most of society would relate to his music and he was upset that society did. Some of that is thinking you are special even if in a bad way and that no one is supposed to understand you. And yes, things like depression can be biological but also relate to your childhood if you felt unloved by parents and society (which I did). I realize now that every single feeling, thought, and issues I have had in life are not unique in that someone else will have experienced the same thing ... not that special like I thought. Of course as most fans know, after we lost Kurt so many other "grunge' or alt rock singers died mostly from overdoses whether intentional or not I don't know. Ah, if only all of them could be like Dave Grohl, now he is unique and special. Depression is a terrible thing, but I still feel guilty for having it because most of my family does not believe or support mental illness. RIP Kurt.

  • @wojciechchmiel2443

    @wojciechchmiel2443

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe you. Tkanks for your post. Most people don't understand mental illness. I'd like to help, get back to me if you want, RIP Kurt.

  • @chriskarn5463

    @chriskarn5463

    9 ай бұрын

    F your family, do you. I started doing that and my life is going forwards now ❤

  • @citizenerased7746
    @citizenerased77464 жыл бұрын

    I’m a huge Kurt Cobain and nirvana fan and have been since age 13 (I’m 38).

  • @lusomarga

    @lusomarga

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same! (am 37)

  • @MightyJackServo
    @MightyJackServo4 жыл бұрын

    I think the undiagnosed stomach problems that were quickly referenced in this video contributed a great deal to Kurt Cobain being the way he was, maybe more than many people realize. I remember at some point, he said something to the effect that being a world-famous musician was nice and all, but what he really wanted was for somebody to name a stomach ailment after him. Or in other words, figure out what was going wrong with his gut and fix it. There’s an autoimmune condition out there that’s one of the most misdiagnosed conditions that causes stomach problems that can lead to life threatening consequences if left untreated. It’s called celiac disease and I have it and I know from what I’ve read and from my own experience that if someone with celiac continues to trigger the condition by eating gluten, it can lead to devastating consequences both for physical and mental health. I know from my own experience that when I accidentally eat something with gluten in it, it causes physical symptoms like a bad case of food poisoning and it leaves me feeling hair-trigger hypersensitive, moody, irritable and depressed. I have often wondered if Kurt Cobain suffered with undiagnosed celiac disease for all of his too short life. I’m not saying that if he had this condition and if he had been put on a gluten-free diet that all of his problems would have been solved... but maybe some of them would have been.

  • @SamHainScott

    @SamHainScott

    4 жыл бұрын

    I read he was poor he consumed vast amounts of cough medicine to get a high. I wonder if that contributed to his stomach problems

  • @sabbracadabra8367

    @sabbracadabra8367

    3 жыл бұрын

    He most likely made it up as an excuse for his heroin use, and for being sick which happens with heroin use and when he toured the world and would have to go without for periods. He was also a big fibber. There's a video on youtube of his friend talking about this too.

  • @califtom

    @califtom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sabbracadabra8367 yea I agree. I'm not sure that the extent of Kurt's "stomach ailment" was but heroin addicts are famous for making up medical conditions and using them as an excuse to take more drugs.

  • @sabbracadabra8367

    @sabbracadabra8367

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@califtom Yeah his manager said that Kurt wanted to be like William Burroughs and other famous 'functioning addicts'. But I think it got its hooks in him too much. The stomach ailment isn't too bad of an excuse because I was a kid at the time and I thought it made the whole thing seem like it wasn't a glamourous artistic tool or escape, it was more of a grim medical thing.

  • @roballen9477

    @roballen9477

    2 жыл бұрын

    His stomach pain was gone

  • @tedtimmis8135
    @tedtimmis81352 жыл бұрын

    Just shows how devastating divorce is for children.

  • @BrisLS1
    @BrisLS14 жыл бұрын

    This was the most intense and powerful of all the Grande series. I was really in a dark place at the end. The way you described depression and drug use, and characterized that as a "formidable foe". This was like something out of a Netflix quality crime movie. Very effective! All that said, I came into this video harboring a lot of suspicion about the ex-wife. I wish you lent more space to that possibility. There is motive, although weak in terms of wanting somebody dead, but motive nonetheless, and she deserves a video on flawed personality herself.