I’m so saddened to see how many people, especially women (come on ladies 😔) have commented on this and place blame on Shannan! No matter what Shannan did or didn’t do as a wife and mother DOES NOT give Chris the right to take her life, her babies, and the two girls. Y’all should be ashamed.

@coreyanderson7424

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 💯. Pisses me off, tbh.

@Christian-py7gx

2 жыл бұрын

People blame her! I have heard that as well. He could have just left. He resented her for whatever reason. He wanted the satisfaction of killing her because he blamed her for the situation.

@rnopes21

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. Doesn't give anybody the right to murder somebody. Divorce would definitely be the consequence of incompatibility, toxic communication, and so forth. Although expensive and the consequences there are significant too, that doesn't mean he should have done murder as an alternative.

@suekelley2109

2 жыл бұрын

People (I think women especially) victim blame because they’re subconsciously trying to assure themselves horrible things can’t happen to them. If Shannan was to blame because of her personality, or her direct sales job, or her media presence or whatever, then such tragedy could never happen to them because they aren’t like Shannan. It’s easier to tolerate than the idea they have no control over the situation.

@rnopes21

2 жыл бұрын

@@suekelley2109 never thought of it that way....it makes sense though.

He had 45 minutes to think about what he was doing while driving a car with his two children and a dead wife inside. But he still killed his kids after that 45 minute drive. The man is totally insane.

@elizabethrodgers8616

3 жыл бұрын

Not insane at all! Pyschopath though! He knew what hecwas doing’

@Deathlyhallows-rx7hg

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't he tried to kill the in the house as well? I read that he tried to suffocate them with their pillows and was upset when he realized that both kids were still alive.

@frogtoes4011

3 жыл бұрын

Laura F I remember this too!!! He admitted it after being in prison for a while. It was his “real confession” even though I feel he’s holding back information.

@miriamluvseminem

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!!!

@Eternal_11_Sasha

3 жыл бұрын

Hold the phone, it gets worse. He had actually attempted to kill his daughters before killing his wife by suffocating them. Then he proceeded to kill his wife and after she was dead the girls walked in the room and asked him what was wrong with mommy. He said in his prison interview he was "surprised they were still alive". THEN he drove with them in the car and their dead mother was at their feet in the vehicle for 45 minutes. He technically killed his daughters twice!

The thing I find the most horrific in this case was having the girls in the car while he buried their mother and then smothering one of the girls as the other one watched and then that daughter asking if he was going to do the same thing to her and when he took the blanket to smother her as well, she cried out, "No Daddy." That's just cold-blooded. It's almost like he had made up his mind and was just doing what he had decided to do and didn't see his children as human anymore. It's so sad.

@smarie4233

Жыл бұрын

I saw a video from the neighbors security camera, where he loaded the body into his truck in body bags. He most likely smothered them in their sleep.

@WrathofArminius

Жыл бұрын

@@smarie4233nope. He didn’t. Listen to his prison interview. It’s insane. He killed them at the oil wells then stuffed them inside. Such a monster.

@sammas2959

Жыл бұрын

@S Marie If only. You responded to someone's comment, but you don't validate his points. The girls were still alive when he drove 45 minutes to dump his dead wife body.

@sammas2959

Жыл бұрын

@Wrath of Arminius s. Marie has no respect for fact. She replied to a person's but didn't validate his points.

@WrathofArminius

Жыл бұрын

@@sammas2959 she just doesn’t know the case yet. I wish I was her and knew less about it honestly. This is one that haunts. I know too much about it. That jailhouse interview was rough. I have girls, and it’s just awful to think of what those little girls went through. So sad.

you can never become immuned to this. No matter how much time passes or how many times you come back to it, it's just as shocking.

@pencilmug

9 ай бұрын

And NK still needs more investigation…..👹🤬

@elizabethlacky6068

8 ай бұрын

@pencilmug She was never really investigated ...that interview was a freeken love feast..😡

Murdering his little girls and blaming the dead wife this guy is evil to the core

@thesummerland6165

3 жыл бұрын

agree, bad enough he murdered her but to wrongly accuse her of killing her own children...and that poor dogloved Shanaan and both girls and was traumatized and upset losing it's family, you can see how upset little dog was

@grantbuttenshaw

3 жыл бұрын

He had to strangle the kids twice..

@danielledavie3274

3 жыл бұрын

@@thesummerland6165 Mkk7

@mandymoore5774

3 жыл бұрын

The cops put that option into his head. It’s a tactic the cops use. He was stupid enough to fall for it.

@crab-dogjones4659

3 жыл бұрын

It's interesting that evil can be so banal. It feels like he did it because it was the best solution he could think of and he was too dumb to consider the consequences. He's not sadistic, per se, he just didn't mind causing pain to achieve his goals. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, in a way, this guy is even more horrifying than the B.T.K.s of the world. For every Rader there's a dozen Watts with vacant, slack-jawed stares who are simply too dumb not to kill.

Chris was not in a rage at all. He was calm and calculated. The worst kind of evil if you ask me.

@dropbyfishingtv7339

3 жыл бұрын

A covert one

@ifonlyunu994

3 жыл бұрын

I agree it was premeditated. He's just not smart. he buried his family at his job site. Also her friends and nosy neighbors stepped to look for Shanann and the kids. This threw Chris for a loop. Running around looking crazy knowing he murdered them.

@olesyam7434

3 жыл бұрын

He is an idiot. Dumping their bodies where he works? How dumb can you be

@monkeyxpwner

3 жыл бұрын

Thing that scares me the most is imaging the actual murders themselves. Someone mentioned “murderous rage” and I agree...what would that cardboard box of a man look like when he’s relishing in killing his family? The fact he looked up those song lyrics tells me he must have been PARTYING at least mentally, maybe physically.

@shininglight143

3 жыл бұрын

@wulfgar3000 well aren’t you a fun human. 😂

Adultery never ends well

@XavierBonapart

Жыл бұрын

Never!

@ghhm2705

8 ай бұрын

Ever!

@blueseptember2174

8 ай бұрын

A whole word

@annnee6818

3 ай бұрын

Erm... maybe but it usually doesn't end like this?

@snowwhite2524

2 ай бұрын

💯

I’m pretty sure the last little girl asked Chris ‘are you going to do the same to me’. He replied- yes. What an absolute scumbag how could you that’s just heartbreaking 💔

@PrimateProductions

Жыл бұрын

He said she did ask that but he never claimed he said yes...he said he couldn't remember if he did or if he didn't answer her.

@surpriseme3928

Жыл бұрын

@@PrimateProductions that’s incorrect he did answer, it’s in the interviews of him posted on KZread.He said something along the lines of “ I’m not sure if I either said yes like a horrible person or simply nothing in response to her asking me ” he claims it’s one of the two

@PrimateProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@surpriseme3928 what he actually said word for word was _"I don't even remember what I said. I don't know if I said yes like a horrible person or if I just put that sheet, that blanket over her head and did the same thing"_ So what you just said in your reply (and what he said) and what you implied in your first, original comment, that he definitely said YES is definitely NOT the same thing!

@TLovetoDance012

8 ай бұрын

He’s a piece of S$&T that should have been PUT DOWN. It’s so sickening. He had a job, he could have seen his kids if he wanted, he had a girlfriend, just get a DIVORCE!

I still want to know what his end game was. Did he not think anyone would ask " hey where's that pregnant wife and 2 kids of yours?"

@JG-cj6pc

3 жыл бұрын

Most likely it was what he told the reporter, who interviewed him. Stick to the "they were taken/kidnapped" story. keep on saying whoever "had" them to please bring them back, how much he loved "those girls," missed them, etc. Play the grieving widower who "lost" his family and manipulate everyone into feeling sorry for him. Then make a new life with Nicole. IMO, that's what he fantasized would be the outcome; in his sick, twisted mind. He really thought he would get away with it, because he's smarter than the police and "everyone" knew what a "nice" guy he was.

@kariebowen7128

3 жыл бұрын

TOTALLY,,,,,,,,,,,where is the rest of the plan

@elainevankat5353

3 жыл бұрын

Good question!!

@amieputnam4711

3 жыл бұрын

@Bubby_Bear Exactly! I wondered about that part too. He was in a total fantasy world thinking they were just gone and he was free to move on.

@stu1002

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly this. If it was "rage" - why did the murders, particularly of the kids seem so calculated? If the it was "calculated" why was it so badly carried out that he ended up voluntarily confessing to the police within days?

During the investigation the only time he broke down and cried was when he realized his coworkers would find out what he did. Narcissist for sure.

@LD-rs1oj

3 жыл бұрын

His mistress worked for the same company

@justamanda8284

2 жыл бұрын

He did break down, with fear in his eyes. But, he pretended to cry...there were no tears.

@MissSpaz

2 жыл бұрын

So bizarre. He cares more about his co workers than his daughters. Legitimately his behavior reminds me so much of the BTK killer.

@albertov239

2 жыл бұрын

@@MissSpaz I don't think he was worrying about his co-workers but the view of him that his co-workers were going to get

@claytoncole3408

2 жыл бұрын

His mask was shattered for everyone to see.. that was his only regret

Out of all the horrific cases I've heard over the years as a father this one baffles me. I'd put myself in harm's way for my children without hesitation.

@decimalexercise7154

Жыл бұрын

Same here. It does not compute for me personally.

@samherb1

10 ай бұрын

Pure evil is not rational to people that aren't evil.

@clicheguevara5282

9 ай бұрын

_Chad Doerman has entered the chat_

@caracre

7 ай бұрын

There’s moms that do this horrible stuff too…. Numbers are low but still shocking a parent would do this and this particular way

@MrElfheart

7 ай бұрын

@@caracre women have the highest rate of child murder. The second highest is step-fathers.

The way you can hear on the recording from the cops where the neighbor was like, "Hey, Chris, how ya doin'? Nice weather, huh?" (Not literally a quote, I'm just paraphrasing to point out his general attitude) *Until* Chris walked away, then he immediately turned to the cops and was all, "Y'all need to look at him, because that man ain't right!" I think we all hope all our neighbors are as great, and are paying as good attention, as this guy 😄💜 The best kind of "nosy" neighbor ever, using his powers for good!

@annnee6818

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I saw that, he had him pegged. Also that porch interview was just so wrong, everything about it was eerie.

I also think Chris Watts grossly overestimated his own intelligence. His neighbour had a video camera that showed Shannon never left the house. Busted. The neighbour thought he was guilty.

@CoExist64

3 жыл бұрын

IMO he was gonna come home later, take her car, phone, purse, etc and drive it somewhere then report her and the kids as missing...

@sAINTDeVille

3 жыл бұрын

@@CoExist64 agreed! I think he seriously underestimated her best friend Nichole! He had not thought about anything she had planned for the next day or anything! Also I think he planned on doing something like texting people back via her phone but then he had no idea SW had changed her code to her phone (🤣😂) once he saw the code was charged it was useless to him (her phone) so he tossed it in the couch. He was a total dumb ass!

@belmum1689

3 жыл бұрын

@@leampunkt3678 Yes he must have thought she and the kids were not as important as him no one not even her friends, Facebook followers would notice

@deniece0821

3 жыл бұрын

The frightening thing is... had he not been so subtly stupid, he very well could have gotten away with it!

@belmum1689

3 жыл бұрын

@@deniece0821 BS he was never going to get away with it, blind Freddy can tell he murdered his family b/c he is a sociopath.

If he snapped over the threat of never seeing his daughters-why did he then kill them? The creep is a liar. He didn't snap he was an idiot over some broad who gave him some.

@FlurryJoe

2 жыл бұрын

Well, at least your excuse for that moron makes sense.

@MuricaTurkey

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. All the information about the murders (other than the parts that are backed up with physical evidence, ie cause of death) pretty much comes from him and he's not exactly credible (understatement of the century).

@glion7792

2 жыл бұрын

@@reginaworthey1401 He never had control. He wanted out and planed it, that to me is not a "snap."

@maxazzopardi7446

2 жыл бұрын

Almost always in cases like Chris Watts they never tell the full truth unless there is smoking gun evidence. For Chris it started with a murder-suicide committed by Shanann. Then him killing Shanann in anger for "discovering she murdered their daughters". To then killed Shanann in anger and so on. He only copped to killing his daughters when it was undeniable he killed them. As far as how that night unfolded in particular, we probably will never know the truth because that's Chris's last "plausible deniability" to claim he isn't pure evil and just acted in rage.

@janeyd5280

2 жыл бұрын

G Lion lol 😆 and Broad wanted rid of his wife and babies. And he stupidly obliged by allowing it to happen and in my opinion with the help of devil 😈 worshippers. Then the did the off and left him to take the rap. And I believe threatened his family. His wife and babies imo were a sacrifice.x

She never told him he was never going to see the kids again, that was a short-lived lie he used to try and justify his choices

@Gitn2it

9 ай бұрын

You're right. She could not have prevented Chris from having visitation. That would be up to the court. If Shannan did say that, it would have been an empty threat.

@sugarplumfairydanielle

8 ай бұрын

Exactly, I doubt she made that threat....and even if she did, why would you then go and erase the kids from the planet, if that upset him so much?

@JamesHarmony

7 ай бұрын

How do any of you know what he or she said?

@heatherem5690

7 ай бұрын

@@JamesHarmony well, for starters hes since retold the story and it doesnt include that detail (or story-line) anymore Secondly, he come clean about it being pre-planned for a different motive (to be with Nicole Kessinger, who he now accuses of seducing him, quoting bible verses about “bad” women) Lastly, hes a lying a$$ murderer using a tired excuse abusive men have been using for ages to justify murdering their wives

@wormwoodcocktail

7 ай бұрын

Even if she did say it, she may not have been serious. She could have been saying it to get revenge in the moment for how he had humiliated her. She may have acquiesced when she realized that her kids want to see their dad. To respond to the temporary separation between parent and child with the permanent removal of the other parent… it’s insane. It shows no empathy. He never thought about the girls when making this decision.

According to Chris, Shannon said he'd never see the kids again. I believe he made that up afterward as a last resort passion killing excuse for "snapping". He didnt snap. All premeditated, which he admitted. Sick that he knew what he was about to do and used her body one last time. Thank you for your insights, Dr. G!

@brendab.5111

9 ай бұрын

I agree totally. He planned it, he just didn’t know exactly when. But he was done with his marriage. He didn’t care if he never saw his wife and kids again, he wanted out. The new girlfriend was just the push he needed. In time he was going to get rid of her too. I mean what kind of life could they really have? She knowing he killed his wife and kids, and he blaming her. He said if he had never met NK he would not have did it. Yeah, right. I don’t believe that. Once the lust wore off and he couldn’t keep up with her….imagine the two of them pretending to be happily ever after. Not buying it.

@sikajaperkele

8 ай бұрын

CW is liar and a murderer so anything he says is most likely bullshit...

@paulryan2128

8 ай бұрын

Dr. Grande nailed it .. psychopathic narcissist with rage & self control issues, probably zero sexual impulse control, who engaged in extramarital affair. Irony is that he looks just NORMAL guy!!

@bradsanders6954

8 ай бұрын

@@brendab.5111 Being 70K in debt, declaring bankruptcy, he might not have told the mistress all about that. Having a whole family go missing, people are not just going to look the other way. I cant believe he thought he would get away clean, with his lame stories, and smiling as he told those stories. He was sunk from the get - go. Her car was home, her purse was sitting there, her shoes on ft porch, her phone, he didnt have time to try to do it properly.

@brendab.5111

8 ай бұрын

@bradsanders6954 I agree. He planned it and was going to blame the whole thing on his girlfriend if he got caught. I think his girlfriend was involved but he planned it. She went along, but he planned it.

This guy just still gives me chills. The idea that you could carry your two little girls and dump them in a tank just is still beyond belief to me.

@mr.peevyshow1914

2 жыл бұрын

Face of evil Chris Watts

@conniemeissen5213

2 жыл бұрын

And gauging how much oil was in the tank by listening to how long it took for the body to hit the oil

@marinafrancesoldman1819

2 жыл бұрын

People like him lack humanity, the ability to feel for others

@sweetea7035

2 жыл бұрын

This case is beyond disturbing..we normal people can't even "go there" in our minds. How could you do that to your own babies....HOW???

@john-paulsilke893

2 жыл бұрын

@@sweetea7035 I couldn’t imagine doing this to a stranger’s kid or even that little brat that annoys and occasionally hurts my daughter at school. I certainly have urges to give a good talking to their racist grandfather who calls all white people “eggheads” and pretends he doesn’t speak any English.

Well Chris watts wanted a new life, so hes got one now .

@franmellor9843

5 жыл бұрын

Now thriving with low life

@songbirdsinging1878

5 жыл бұрын

this is really what happened. he had 5 weeks to pretend he was free of all responsibility while having fun in bed with a mistress. he decided he wanted out and apparently wiping out his whole family seemed like a good idea. i don't believe a word he says. he seems content in prison. not sure that will last but for now i think he's doing fine.

@franmellor9843

5 жыл бұрын

@@songbirdsinging1878 you are bang on ...it sure is a weird one ,unfathomable ..i heard the coming up release of the last 200 discovery is even more horrific than as been revealed to date

@panz.9449

5 жыл бұрын

fran mellor I hadn’t heard about the missing 200 pages being released, where did you read that? I wonder if any of it fits in with watt’s many versions of what happened?

@panz.9449

5 жыл бұрын

Danielle Jones -yes he has and he’s welcome to it.

The dangers of infidelity, indeed. I was going through a hellish divorce during 2018, finding out in March of that year that my husband had been cheating on me since June 2016. I’m a cancer survivor, disabled with chronic pain. I would rather have gone through chemo again than the pain of finding out he was unfaithful and the subsequent demise of our marriage. We’d been together almost 28 years. Watching poor Shannan going through the same thing while being able to see what was going on between Chris and Nicole was pretty disgusting. The biggest question to me is why do a handful of men feel the need to kill their wives or entire families in order to start over with someone else? I don’t think Chris snapped. I think he had already decided he was going to kill them at least a week before. Obviously we can’t believe a word he says about it. I really hope that he was lying about waiting to kill those girls, that they didn’t have to endure that car ride with their mother’s body. He threw them away like garbage, worse than. What kind of man shoves his children into oil tankers? Good God, what a monster.

@Kgio-2112

Жыл бұрын

I agree. He didn't snap. He had this planned out for at least a few weeks.

@fedup745

Жыл бұрын

I agree. And I hope his life in prison is a living hell.

@Zahra.y7

9 ай бұрын

He did not need to pay child support and they call women gold diggers

@face1257

9 ай бұрын

Sorry for the pain you've endured with your husband, and I hope you're doing well ❤️‍🩹

@stlounsbury

8 ай бұрын

My husband, same. You grasp at thin air trying to pull him back. It’s a horrible feeling.

This is the most monstrous crime I've known in my 60+yrs of life .The murder of his children was beyond reason to me and his wife and unborn child as well.

@bowtoyoursensei554

9 ай бұрын

I thought this was the most monstrous crime as well, and I'm 66. And then along came Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell, the extent of whose evil makes that of Chris almost pale in comparison. It seems the depths of depravity that some people will sink to in pursuit of sex, money, or power, is bottomless.

@mommyshark1124

8 ай бұрын

Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald killed his pregnant wife & 2 daughters in February 1970 Ft. Bragg NC. This case reminds me of that.

@Kwatson855

4 ай бұрын

Psychopaths are unreasonable.

@otadashi1570

2 ай бұрын

Not long after another guy in Colorado had his wife put on a blindfold to smell different candles while sitting at the kitchen table. While she was sampling each one he grabbed a baseball bat and hit her in the side of the head with a full swing. Took a few more swings to finish her off. This guy was having an affair too and told her about it so she could hang around in the area and when he called her she came over and helped clean up the mess. This was on Thanksgiving Day. Must be the altitude or something.

The only thing Chris Watts sincerely regrets is that he forgot to "take care" of his nextdoor neighbors.

@brendacameron4827

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! :D

@h-lorolltide92

3 жыл бұрын

right on, they were awesome in helping nail his sick ass!

@Cherry-lm9rz

3 жыл бұрын

You are so right. But I’ve asked myself..... Did he know his neighbors had a camera? 🤔

@jillyb710

3 жыл бұрын

And Shannan's friend Nikole. She's as much the hero as his neighbour.

@robyn7691

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cherry-lm9rz he did. he brought up that cars were being broken into and asked nate(neighbor) about his camera angles. I personally think he was planning this for a longer time than we realize and was checking to see how far to back up his truck

"Don't confuse sex with love" ... where were you when I was 20?

@pommiebears

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t confuse intimacy with sex either. When you love someone deeply, sex is so intimate, it goes beyond what can be accomplished with lust only. It’s extremely complex, when you really think about it. Merry Christmas 🎄

@danielchan4699

3 жыл бұрын

blame pop culture and religion.

@CJBhattarai

3 жыл бұрын

@@pommiebears so true, having sex with a person out of lust has a significantly different feeling than having sex with a partner who you truly love, that why you can never buy true love with money! NEVER!!

@mac11daddy6

3 жыл бұрын

Love is a weakness that humans have that ultimately leaves them in suffering.

@pajeetsingh

3 жыл бұрын

Shup up tiny girl.

I lived by her family and happened to be at a gas station with them the morning they found out she was dead. It was absolutely heartbreaking to see them in shock and tears. I think I was there just moments after they found out.

@idamartinez7228

Жыл бұрын

Oh my Lord.

@PrimateProductions

Жыл бұрын

Why would they go to a gas station just moments after they found out she was dead? I listened to Frankie's testimony to the FBI yesterday and he said they were at home when they found out they were actually dead. Seeing how they reacted according to him they would nor have suddenly went anywhere.

@marthamryglod291

Жыл бұрын

@@PrimateProductions it was her extended family as far as I know. I think they received a call when at the station. I pulled in and saw people in a group outside and the cashier explained what was going on to me. I don't know them personally.

@PrimateProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@marthamryglod291 oh ok I see

@Youtubereplies

Жыл бұрын

@@marthamryglod291 A sad observation of our society. Honestly is auto devalued and evil is auto believed. Should be other way around but isn’t with our new now.

I’m always struck by Chris’s immaturity. Shannan was the responsible one and he was like a 3rd child.

@angelwings7930

11 ай бұрын

She wasn’t responsible. CW is a disgusting psychopath but but prior to meeting Shanann had a higher paying job than the anadarko oil job and had a savings account. After marrying her she talked him out of the higher paying job to get a job requiring less hours that paid less and also drained his savings account and put the family in debt. She had bankruptcy before meeting him too. He had not. She put the girls in a high priced preschool they couldn’t afford, wanted that house and they couldn’t afford it, even with bankruptcy looming she booked a trip to Aspen for her and CW (they never made it it because he killed her). Speaking of a third child….despite the dismal finances Shanann was pregnant again.

@hollyr8788

11 ай бұрын

⁠how do you know she talked him out of leaving a great job etc To blame one person in a relationship of their finance issues it ridiculous nobody could make me switch jobs or careers and no way would i just let my partner put me in debt. He had a mouth and a mind he chose to allow that to happen. He also may of preferred the oil rig job and he made that decision. Shallow to think she had that much power and control over him and if she did then that was his pathetic fault not hers. Thats as bad as saying she pushed him to kill them too…. Smh!

@pamrubio9552

10 ай бұрын

His repeated use of the word "like" says alot.

@It-is-me...Melsie

10 ай бұрын

To say Shannon was responsible is laughable. My 18 year old son has more sense than her, and I hope like hell if he ever gets married his wife is a better person than she was. And before you jump on me, yes Chris is a monster and she and their children did not deserved what he did to them... but don't go making out she was some amazing or even regular person.

@angelwings7930

10 ай бұрын

@@hollyr8788 I arrived at the info by researching including Shanann’s own videos and people who knew her. 👋

I don’t believe Chris was in a rage, he planned this all in advance. 😢

@jengirl6475

3 жыл бұрын

Bruceann Yellowega / I don’t believe C Watts was in a rage. Look at the video of him carrying his kids and dead wife to his truck. He was calm. He is a sociopath.

@jengirl6475

3 жыл бұрын

Bruceann Yellowega /. You might just be correct. 😢

@switzerlandful

3 жыл бұрын

Have you checked out the *JCS - Criminal Psychology* channel? It covers this case & others.

@brucebiggy3593

3 жыл бұрын

@@jengirl6475 If he was calm then that would point towards him being a psychopath, not a sociopath.

@rebeccataylor9573

3 жыл бұрын

I think it was more like he had thought about it but not seriously. And then he raged and did it.

"Hell is empty and all the devils are here". Shakespeare was right after all.

@dr.watson8251

3 жыл бұрын

@Shiran Agronov Family Annihilators fit Shakespeare's devil well.

@LG141602

3 жыл бұрын

That means my friend's theory that this is hell is right.

@aliciascat9433

3 жыл бұрын

I think Shakespeare was speaking metaphorically , like Einstein quoting "God does not play dice with the universe." The point is Shakespeare and Einstein have not much of an idea about the existence of a God and neither do we.

@rockyevans1584

3 жыл бұрын

@@aliciascat9433 oh really? We all thought that was a literal statement. Dang dude

@janeyd5280

3 жыл бұрын

@@LG141602 my late mum said this was the hell where we are. I reckon she was correct too.

Psycho gets homicidal when told he'll never see his kids then proceeds to kill them and never see them again. I find it hard to believe that he had never displayed impulsive rage in the past toward his family.

@sondragramse1770

Жыл бұрын

He was worried about co-workers if he torched his work as he had killed his wife and was g oing to kill his daughters.

@6Sofia6

11 ай бұрын

@@Kimber123 it’s a post construction. She never said that. He wanted to get rid of his family to move on with his mistress. Shannon was the one that was clinging on to hope and wanted to work things out.

@snowy12841

11 ай бұрын

@@Kimber123Oh please. That gets thrown around all the time in divorce & marital issues. That doesn’t justify straddling your wife & choking her to death. A normal reaction is, I’ll see you in court then. Chris Watts was just waiting for a “reason” to get rid of his life & family. All for a piece of tight ass. Terrible & disgusting. There’s a special place in hell for people like Chris.

@yumkikko

11 ай бұрын

@@Kimber123 she should have never said that to him...? Does that justify his actions to you? Does his behavior seem like a reasonable reciprocation to you? Im confused on how, out of this entire story, that was your takeaway? Please tell me I'm misunderstanding.

@yumkikko

10 ай бұрын

@Kimber123 got it, so you don't actually have an answer. You're just up in the comments being a jerkish troll. Nice deflection, though, calling my question stupid, it almost made me L-O-L. Thank you for the smile! (⌒∇⌒)ノ"

I've watched hundreds of hours of videos on this case HUNDREDS!!!! the day CW dad comes in and CW admits to RW what he did and what happened...when left alone in that room he was offered a pizza and he sat there calmly eating it like he would be eating pizza in his own kitchen...that sent chills through me

@redwingsfan3621

7 ай бұрын

Just like Jeff Sokol. The pizza eating predator talking with Chris Hansen ha.

She definitely didn’t tell him “you’ll never see the kids again”. This is Chris Watts story, not the real story.

@LisaNH934

4 жыл бұрын

I agree 💯% I keep hearing that statement repeated as 'fact'..when CW is the only person who claimed this!

@amber-qo6ds

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think she said that either. But then again, it might have been something she said during the heat of a moment in an argument.

@trishdish2.047

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. We only can go by what he said.. and if course he lies..

@thisguyisabeast6874

4 жыл бұрын

Sarah Smith lol even if she said that Chris still killed his kids so doesn’t matter

@hollystiener16

4 жыл бұрын

There was a text in which she said it. but regardless, the murder was premeditated

I don’t believe he “snapped.” He planned it. He told his co-workers that he did not need them at the work site that became their graves.

@rhuephus

2 жыл бұрын

yep ... there is no SNAP in a premeditated MULITPLE murder

@natalietitus3234

2 жыл бұрын

No way that guy was being beat down by shanann! He snapped

@MeganVictoriaKearns

2 жыл бұрын

@@natalietitus3234 Shanann was a strong personality and Chris was a complete wimp. Yes, she bossed him around and made the decisions in the marriage, but he never told her no.

@geni2906

2 жыл бұрын

@@natalietitus3234 He sent Shannan a photo of a staged dead child. You think this monster snapped????

@reannabaker4

2 жыл бұрын

Shanann seemed like a narcissist and her use of baby wise is disturbing. I was raised by someone just like Shanann. I was emotionally and mentally abused so I see right through her. Many other people aren't able to see it. It's exactly the same way with my own mom. People on the outside thought she was such a cool person. Chris was stupid for not divorcing her. Shanann's last days of sadness and confusion is what happens when people have had enough of the covert narcissistic abuse. These people get sad and confused when people are done, fed up and over them. She didn't deserve to die of course. She isn't the great mom and wife like people love to write about online. Those kids were victims long before they died. Chris is in prison and will never see freedom. There's a lot to be learned from this tragedy.

This blew through Colorado like crazy! My brother was a detective on this case; multiple agencies worked it & knew he did it as soon as the T. V. interview aired 😐

This case has always stuck with me and over the years I find more and more information about it. They were planning on naming their baby Nico Lee Watts and now hearing that’s pretty much his mistress’s name is just another f’d up part about this case

@meme-bu8qu

Жыл бұрын

Wow. WTF. Where was this shared?

@autumn111155551

Жыл бұрын

It was Shanann who chose that name, not knowing, of course, that that was the name of Chris’s mistress or that he even had a mistress

@francie2915

Жыл бұрын

@@meme-bu8qu I heard that on the Grizzly True Crime videos about this case. She was doing a deep dive into the case. Naming his son after his mistress is beyond cruel,it’s evil. I never heard that Shannon chose that name. Are you sure that’s true? It would seem too strange considering Nico Lee is like Nicole.

@francie2915

Жыл бұрын

@@meme-bu8qu Whoops- sorry! It wasn’t you who said Shannon chose that name 🫢

@starseed8831

Жыл бұрын

it’s actually pretty believable he’d be evil and sickly vile to that extent given that, while shannan was on that business trip, he sent her a picture of a blow up doll with a sheet over it saying it was their daughters idea to apparently creepily see her reaction. he seems like that sadistic maniac no doubt about it

What I learned is from this situation... get out and then figure it out. Your safety is at risk when you are treated with indifference.

@JJ-iq8mi

2 жыл бұрын

So very true. Its only when you look back you realise how bad it was.

@goldenlamb777

Жыл бұрын

Only because of Dr Grande I was able to realize that my father was a sadist. I’m 45. It’s so sad. I had no idea. Finally my husband pointed it out last night ... I was in shock I could not talk

@yvettecruz6038

Жыл бұрын

Yes that part definitely hit home for me.

@LittleBlueOwl318

Жыл бұрын

sHE beLIEveD

@idamartinez7228

Жыл бұрын

Because Indifference means you are expendable

“You’re never gonna see the kids again” I believe Chris watts made this up to make Shannan look bad. We can clearly see from her texts that’s she wanted Chris and his family to be part of their lives. She was upset when his family missed the girls birthdays. She tried to go to marriage counseling. She asked her friends for advice on how to make Chris feel better. I don’t believe for a second that she would have threatened to keep the girls from him when she worked so hard to make them a happy family.

@posieglom3215

4 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@hazztv6317

4 жыл бұрын

Meh Don’t forget about the book they found I believe in her room or closet on how to fix your marriage or something to that degree.

@redcloud8444

4 жыл бұрын

Highly likely. We're dealing with a liar here, so maybe that phrase wasn't even uttered by Shannan. It just came off in his mouth because he was trying to justify his actions. Why else would he drove off for hours and hours to kill his girls after he killed his wife if he loved them so much and he is clearly sane? Doesn't make sense, does it?

@DebbieW1965

4 жыл бұрын

- I feel the exact same way you do. I believe he said that to make her look bad, as well as to garner sympathy for himself. She just didn't seem to be a vindictive person.

@Ron4885

4 жыл бұрын

Meh, of course.

I love the way you articulate your thoughts! So tranquil and educated 😍😍

@Linda-ki5xh

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree.. May be three years but his messages are timeless and we learn a lot. He knows what he is talking about, has confidence that compels close attention.

The need for him to eradicate his old life for his new one and carry it out was facilitated by his personality and characteristic traits. Most men would leave their wife and just make it work somehow with their children. This man was a psychopath and this is what differentiates this. What always shocks me in cases like this, is how they believe they will get away with it and carry on with their lives. Such a sad story. Rip to Shannon and her beautiful children.

He was only 33? he looked in his 40s. Evil must age you

@michellebastiani6470

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same. I'm a yr older. It doesn't help the level of immaturity just confuses things more. Ugh this is soo mentally exhausting, bless the people who had to deal with this pos.

@davidcombs8914

3 жыл бұрын

@@michellebastiani6470 right good point

@JohnnytNatural

3 жыл бұрын

He was overweight for most of his life, he only got thin that year

@pjm8395_

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnytNatural he wasn't overweight for that long, I seen a high school year book picture and he looked slim but without a receding hairline and beard

@graceperez9500

3 жыл бұрын

I think he started doing meth. Same thing I thought. He was worn out.

6:56 'Allegedly' told him "you're not gonna see the kids again." The alleged comment coming from a pathological homicidal sociopath. I do not believe she told him this.

@norahmcswain2753

4 жыл бұрын

Agree she never said it he is trying to explain why and the real why is he hated her and the kids!

@kkheflin3

4 жыл бұрын

@Mr. Gib.. Watts is a narcissistic psychopath (or at least a sociopath). You can easily tell when they are lying. Their lips are moving.

@marlacarlson2586

4 жыл бұрын

I believe he said she would never see them again and lied and said she said it. Covert Narcissistic Personality Disorder Sociopath.

@thereisnocarolinHR

4 жыл бұрын

Even if she did, he obviously didn’t care about seeing them again! He planned their murder for weeks!

@paulscrittendon4841

4 жыл бұрын

Still blaming her even in death

This case is so unbelievably horrific and gut wrenching sad. I still can't get my head around it.

@james87367

2 жыл бұрын

What Chris did is probably the worst thing you can possibly do as a human. Murder your own family including children is absolutely unforgivable crime.

This tragedy reminds me of my life. Way too close to my home. Chris Watts was just like the man I am divorcing. And EXACTLY why I am fighting for the lives of my children.

@irisjasmincook6918

11 ай бұрын

Run far away and get a solicitor that is specialized in narcissim Write everything down. Lock your keys down, essential paperwork etc

@edwardshell1289

11 ай бұрын

Did you get out of your relationship?

@festina_lente7655

2 ай бұрын

Over the top rhetoric

Hi Dr Todd, just a word on narcissistic rage from personal experience. I was married to an academically brilliant, but emotionally childish narcissist. One day he was raging and hurting me, the next door neighbor called out for him to stop and he stopped immediately and had a sheepish smile on his face while looking at the neighbour. This rage is there, but they can control it. They just 'Act' like they can't so they can justify why they are hurting you. Love your channel 👍

@donnagarside8520

4 жыл бұрын

@@hillaryhayman1 I'm sorry that happened to you, but glad you got out of the relationship. Sometimes it takes years to escape. IMO they know what they are doing, but don't know why or how they they became this way, and want to test how much abuse you're willing to take. They know they will never change because they don't want to, this fake mask works perfectly for them. It makes them smarter than everyone else. I cried and begged for hours for my ex narc to try to let go of all the mind games because his family and I truly love him. It was never going to happen. There's no hope for them.

@donnagarside8520

4 жыл бұрын

@@hillaryhayman1 Yes, you do realise it was all fiction, a make believe fairytale that you were involved in. It wasn't a real relationship, what happened didn't really affect him emotionally. It makes it easier for you to get passed that time, lesson learned (at first, if it's too good to be true, it probably is). A word of caution, I wouldn't be alone when he brings the money. 🌷

@una1085

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, also from experience- the narc can turn the rage, and the victim-playing on and off like a tap. It's truly evil. If you are involved with one of these monsters, don't walk away...RUN

@dalegribble5661

4 жыл бұрын

@@hillaryhayman1 sounds like a demon to me Thank God ur ok

@hillaryhayman1

4 жыл бұрын

Dale Gribble I’m thankful to thanks

Chris’s Watts had his kids enrolled at a children’s gym that I worked at and my boss taught his daughters. I met his wife briefly. His wife was sweet and his daughters were adorable. Chris was a little aloof at times but he seemed to really care about his kids. It shocked the whole staff when we heard about the murders. He seemed so normal and acted like a good dad and decent husband.

@arlenemejia1761

3 жыл бұрын

Looks are definitely deceiving 😶

@Manikese

3 жыл бұрын

What I can tell, he is a normal and caring guy. He had a lot of pent up anger, and he was taking those patches that messes with his heart rate and testosterone. He slept about 3 hours a night for a few months. He would fall asleep will talking to Nicki. After the perfect mixture of bad things, he snapped in a fit of rage and killed his wife. After that, he lost his mind. Then he did the rest. Other than that moment, he would have never have done those things. He loved his girls. After the incident he lied to himself and wouldn't let himself see what he did. At the same time he was in survival mode. Thinking about being with Nicki still as it helped him forget his situation. This is a travesty because he isn't the type of person who would do this. It was a once in a billion event.

@tinselinkl

3 жыл бұрын

They all act. We have one at work. Waiting for that day. We have reported but no action until there is a physical abuse. So far it's rage, bullying and stalking.

@Manikese

3 жыл бұрын

Ami Khan everyone is a narcissist to some degree. His friends and family didn’t think he was an over the top narcissist (like Trump). The incident was a perfect storm. He had anger built up from prior events, his testosterone and chemicals were out of wack, he was using too many of those patches that made him feel like he worked out all day without doing anything, they messed with his heart, coming back from NC to high elevation may have had an effect, he didn’t sleep more than 2 or 3 hours in a few months, he was bankrupt, then he was told he would never see his girls again. He snapped into a blinding rage, lost all control, couldn’t stop himself even when he wanted to. After he killed his wife, he completely lost his mind and went mental. Maybe he had a fever in his brain from the rage. Being totally lost and not himself he killed his girls. He didn’t regain sanity until weeks later. Then he realized he lost the 2 little girls he loved most in the world.

@SummeRain783

3 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Waldron your justification of all this seriously concerns me...

There are a lot of similarities between this and the murders of Lacy and Conner, Both wives had that bubbly, in control personalities. Both wives were pregnant and both husbands had weak egos and both had mistresses.

@blueseptember2174

8 ай бұрын

Lust is the the common thread. Nothing good comes from lust.

The most interesting part of this case, in my opinion, is that CW apparently googled, “how should it feel when someone tells you that they love you”, or something to that effect.

@samhassan9448

Жыл бұрын

Oooo he is a clear narcissist if he googled that or a sociopath

@pooscifer

10 ай бұрын

@@SwitchTF2 What exactly is the harm in speculating about his disorders? You think you won't do justice to chris fucking watts LMAO??

@clicheguevara5282

9 ай бұрын

@@SwitchTF2 I absolutely love psychology and _theorizing_ about what psychological conditions might be at play in certain situations. ...but that's very different from an armchair psychologist making a full blown "diagnosis" after watching a short video about someone. I'll never understand why people do that. MY psychologists didn't even properly diagnose ME until I was in my late 30s. Lmao Diagnosis is extremely tricky, nuanced, and unfortunately, subjective much of the time.

@Tracy-rf7ri

7 ай бұрын

@@SwitchTF2 must be easy too, Chris is a nutjob

Still shocking after all this time. It's almost as if he thought he would kill his family, sell his house, no longer be in debt, run off with Nicole and no one would be the wiser. When the cops walked into their bedroom and the sheets were missing, it's like really, how dumb did he think everyone was? What an animal.

@XavierBonapart

Жыл бұрын

Narcissist 100 percent

@Platinum907

Жыл бұрын

Yes, he was essentially caught by the time he returned home from killing everyone.He is/was extremely immature, naive and uneducated.

@brendab.5111

9 ай бұрын

The really f***** up part is that if her friend hadn’t of been persistent, he might have actually gotten away with it. I mean it was so evident from the git that something wasn’t adding up. Her car is in the garage. The kid seats are also in the garage. Her favorite sneakers are still there. Her purse, the kids meds, her cell phone (turned off) all still in the house. He’s not upset, he seems to be speaking matter-of-factlly like “yeah, she went with the kids to a friends house.” Not upset or frantic in the slightest, implying that maybe everything is still there because she and the kids were kidnapped. All the alarms were screaming! But if her friend had not been persistent I believe he would be a free man today.

@israeliteking1947

9 ай бұрын

that's the white man for ya 😂😂😂

@jillanderson1316

9 ай бұрын

It's dreadful watching this monster of a man with his children specifically , knowing what he did , and people who blame shannan really do not get it about christopher watts , they are still buying into the facade , believing his lies that what he did was because he snapped, and was possessed by a dark entity ..when he is interviewed by the police he drops his voice and tries to sound emotional and distressed , that is all so sickening.

I love how he says "I shouldn't be defined by this one thing". Isn't that exactly what a murderer would say? It's still about him in his mind.

@freyashipley6556

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, c'mon--how many of us truly have never thought seriously about murdering our entire family? Sheesh--it's not that big a deal.

@liselottenilsen408

3 жыл бұрын

Very good point! 👍💫

@sarcasticallyrearranged

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think that he's capable of really understanding why people are so horrified by what he did!

@bixler3463

3 жыл бұрын

Sarcastically Deranged exactly like oh people want to take my families pics out of my cell how can people be so cruel?! Get a grip man

@belmum1689

3 жыл бұрын

@@bixler3463 The picture will not effect him in the slightest , he will sleep like a baby

This man was extremely self-centered. It was all about him and what he wanted. He stop wanting to be a part of his family when Shannan discovered she was pregnant a third time. His psyche went dark and he made a plan. And he determined that the only way out was to murder all of them. Twisted

The fact that this guy is still alive and not being tortured somewhere constantly and then brought back to life and tortured again is sickening

It would be interesting if you could do a video on Chris’ mom, Cindy. She’s out in another galaxy

@afroliciouspresents3603

2 жыл бұрын

Both mothers in law appear to be domineering matriarchs, with weak husbands

@jenofhearts

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! Cindy Watts is a total crazy person.

@monikaazariah9237

2 жыл бұрын

She was a narc who raised another narc...typical blame shifting and dissociative behaviour. She in a way justified her daughter in law's murder thru the hands of her son ...really scary mother who raised a monster

@afroliciouspresents3603

2 жыл бұрын

@Monika Azariah Shannan was also a narcissist. That leaps out from her videos. I'm not victim blaming and no way did she deserve what happened, but she was hard work. There is something dodgy about Nicole, also.

@sabine4759

2 жыл бұрын

@@afroliciouspresents3603 I agree with that! Shannan was no angel and her constant posting on facebook and other social media platforms made Watts angry though he didn 't want to mention it to her! Of course this is not an excusion for those horrible murders. But in my opinion it isn 't correct potraying Shannan as a person with no mistakes! I think the passion for his mistress and the anger against Shannan grew and grew and exploded at the night of the murders. Watts obviously aren 't able to express his feelings , neither in a good nor in a bad way! This was a really tragedy and feel so sorry for the victims.

The only remorse and guilt he had was for himself and the fact he’d been caught

@glamdolly30

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Chris Watts has zilch guilt, he's sad he was caught & that is all!

@ashleyleong6270

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@AS-010o0

5 жыл бұрын

Yes!! Thank You! I was thinking this the whole time. Have u watch when during the trial, where detectives described how he murdered his children he shared no tear, but when they read his sentence he was crying - tears dripping down his face.

@lynnomara601

5 жыл бұрын

Anetusi Absolutely, total stone hearted pos xxx

@ckyung1312

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, now he wants people to think he wasn't completely vile and evil, but oh yeah, he is and should be locked away in a lion's den. His new life is too cushy and he doesn't deserve to live.

He couldn't afford a divorce and child support. He was just getting rid of stuff he didn't want anymore.

Mad respect to you, Dr. Grande for diving into this. It’s so dark, cold & brutal. I’m just now looking into this case but only a little bit because it’s just too much. For the longest I couldn’t at all. 💔😩

When i saw Bella with Chris and she looked up at him with simple adoration for her daddy the day before he murdered her I became literally ill from knowing that man could just cold blooded murder his babies.

@gge9824

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. It’s brutal.

@elaine8985

2 жыл бұрын

It's so sad that i cannot bring myself to watch the Netflix documentary. Those poor babies 💔

@blayzertrayl8929

2 жыл бұрын

from all family videos ive seen ...he appeared quite a normal loving father with his children. there were no signs. for him to so callously do away with them ...and then react the way he reacted afterwards. Its like he was lobotomized.

@gorelash9056

2 жыл бұрын

@@elaine8985 I haven't yet been able to bring myself to watch that either. Too horrible, how sweet the girls are in the home videos, and loving, especially towards their dad.

@elaine8985

2 жыл бұрын

@@gorelash9056 💗💔💗

The very idea that there was an argument at stupid O'Clock in the morning seems ridiculous to me. She was pregnant, tired and ill. She already had to be up quite early for an appointment and she got home later than expected. I don't believe she wanted sex, and I definitely don't believe she asked him to wake her at 4pm. She would have wanted whatever precious little sleep she could manage. I firmly believe she was asleep when he started to kill her

@mcpartridgeboy

4 жыл бұрын

whts sad is theres millions of men who are alone who would have loved to have a wife to care for like her. I think your spot on about your assertions though.

@kellyf6624

3 жыл бұрын

"Stupid o'clock" indeed.

@noeldee9236

3 жыл бұрын

It’s been speculated that he had drugged her a couple times trying to get her to miscarry and that’s why she was so sick that day

@kevino.7348

3 жыл бұрын

100%

@wmdkitty

3 жыл бұрын

She was pregnant, tired, and ill, and had to be up early for an appointment. I believe that HE wanted sex at stupid o-clock in the morning, and she refused (for the aforementioned reasons), and he escalated it into a fight.

I can’t get through this story. This guy enrages me to the core.

This is the case that made me never watch or read about crime again. I even switched from Forensic psychology studies because of it. What he did to those children will forever stay with me.

@festina_lente7655

2 ай бұрын

Or in others words you watch KZread videos while eating snacks🙄

@MsChampagneSanity

2 ай бұрын

@@festina_lente7655 you ok? Need a hug?

Just watched the new Netflix doc on this. The footage of Chris with his daughters made my skin crawl. Gotta give props to the lie detector investigator. How she still could act humanely to Chris-giving him the out when she asked him if the reason why he didn’t want to talk was because his wife actually was hurting the kids-was probably the single most important act in getting Chris to finally admit he killed all three. Imagine how Chris felt when the lie detector operator was telling him that he would be a fool to take the test if he did have something to do with the murders. She had to watch him bomb each and every question that had to do with the deaths and still she was trying to keep him relaxed-rubbing his back and shit. Played Chris like she was first chair violinist for the NewYork Philharmonic Bravo 👏👍

@Vinnie-pu9vw

3 жыл бұрын

Tom Hawkinson, when Bella was singing My dad is a hero, was heartbreaking to watch, especially when you knew what he was going to do.

@tomhawkinson2162

3 жыл бұрын

Vinnie 1505 I honestly did a lot of the 10second fast forwarding on those scenes. Creepy as hell. And then how he ended up killing them? It’s absolutely nuts picturing the girls in the backseat-dead mom at their feet-cruising for an hour to Chris’ worksite.

@25schmeckles55

3 жыл бұрын

If you want more, please watch "Jim Cant Swim (JCS) , he analises the whole interogation

@millsykooksy4863

3 жыл бұрын

Also Chris is dumb as rocks

@lynnebarnes5645

3 жыл бұрын

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

Apparently he never argued back or lost his temper with her. He never got annoyed or irritated. She thought it was a quality in Chris, no that's a disorder and a warning sign.

@helenah9192

3 жыл бұрын

That’s something I did get at all and what is most scary. That there was no signs.

@gbreeze99

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@prorespluscom

3 жыл бұрын

Ticking time bomb

@juliesprik9479

3 жыл бұрын

That is like Scott Peterson.

@muirgirl

3 жыл бұрын

Oof. Sounds like ASPD/NPD and Schizoaffective Disorder. I really wonder the role the mistress played in this though.

The craziest part about it to me is how little he revealed that side of himself before it happened. I would think that there would have been signs. It seems like Shannan had zero clue that he was capable of this kind of violence. I wonder if Chris himself knew he was capable of that sort of thing.

I am a DV victim advocate and I have a current client who has been the victim of horrific psychological abuse from her husband for 25 years. I was watching him in court this week and trying to put my finger on who his demeanor reminded me of. It took almost a day to realize that his whole demeanor reminded me of Chris Watts. I am convinced (non-professional opinion) that husband is a psychopath.

@festina_lente7655

2 ай бұрын

Okey dokey

I don’t believe the 4 am conversation between Chris and Shan’ann ever took place. Why would he wake her at that hour to talk about their marriage? She’d only got back from her trip around 2 am. It’s ridiculous. The “marriage discussion” couldn’t have waited till after he finished work? I think he made that up to try to explain why his wife might have left the following day with the children, or (his plan B) to explain why he “lost it” when she told him “he’d never see the kids again” (another lie). I think he’d planned the murders for days and he killed her while she slept.

@judywright4241

4 жыл бұрын

GradKat ---We know it’s was planned because he had prepared to be alone at the worksite on Monday on Friday. I totally agree there was no ‘long discussion’. He said she was crying and her mascara was running but you can plainly tell Shan’ann had no make up on at 2 a.m. when she’s on the Ring doorbell camera. I picture Chris was fuming because his wife was ‘late coming home’, putting the squeeze on his timeline.

@fudgicle-cr2jw

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting theory. That would explain his saying Shannan didn't fight back and the lack of marks on him which supports that. I think one of the cops theorized that as well.

@chrisi162

4 жыл бұрын

Agree 100% Making sure no one would be at the work site is a clear premeditation.

@godallowsuturns679

4 жыл бұрын

I do believe he has an argument at 4 am because no woman is going to arrive at home and go right to sleep when she hasn’t kiss her girls goodnight and talked with her husband who she hasn’t seen. There is a big possibility they got intimate.

@chrisi162

4 жыл бұрын

@@godallowsuturns679 he refused her sex for weeks before. Why would he suddenly have sex with her the night he kills her? I get what you're saying and it's definitely a possibility but given how he was treating her. I don't think we're ever going to get the real truth unfortunately.

He didn't seem to have any of the red flags we are aware of to look out for in potential dangerous people, violent history, abusive, controlling, angry. I think that's what makes this so terrifying. Even Shannan's family said they never could of imagined this happening. And her mother is very intuitive. Heartbreaking and terrifying the whole thing.

@mikexxxmilly

2 жыл бұрын

He didn’t exhibit and flags because he was nothing but a weak, feminine man. Shanann was an obvious narcissist. Watch all of the footage and you’ll catch very creepy, cruel tactics she used against him. He was so weak that over time he built up an unbelievable level of rage and hatred for her. He absolutely hated her guts. All he had to do was stand up to her. Have a backbone. Tell her “no, I will not do these fake videos anymore. You will not talk to me like this anymore.” Two benefits would come of that, number 1: he would feel better for standing up for himself: number 2: she would’ve actually become more attracted to him because women want a man with a spine. She was incredibly dominant over him and she saw him as weak, which he was. Had he just spoke up, I think they’d be alive and happy. I am NOT saying it is her fault. There’s many forces at play here but a narcissist with a weak minded, submissive person is a pressure cooker. He’s definitely a piece of shit, no excuse to do what he did but I think that’s the most obvious, logical cause after watching all of the footage of them.

@Itsunclegabby

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikexxxmilly Femininity isn't a weakness, Mike. Have a nice day.

@mikexxxmilly

2 жыл бұрын

@@Itsunclegabby I didn’t say femininity was a weakness, however... men that display overtly feminine qualities are often disrespected by women because they pity them.

@melancholymartialarts7095

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikexxxmilly dude you're totally trying to twist what you said. You are implying his feminine nature is part of his weakness. How ignorant

@EchoBravo370

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikexxxmilly I understand what you are trying to say. One disagreement though: Women are not always going to find a man more attractive because they display having a spine. It depends what he has a spine about. Both women and men can have in their minds a vision of what they expect a good marriage to include...what it looks like. If during their marriage Chris didn't want to do things that for Shannon were not negotiable, she could have found it difficult to accept. In other words, if he had a spine to stand up against things she really valued, they were always going to be at a crossroads. That said, the fact that she had written a letter and composed a speech to her own husband, which she had sent to a third party to look at, says to me she was desperate. So it says to me that he was ALREADY laying down the law. Not only in action by not paying his wife any attention, but probably defending it to her face in conversations. To write a letter and compose a speech, thereby moving on from normal conversation, she was either 1) desperate to make him understand her point of view to get her way (persuasion or manipulation), or 2) desperate to show him they could be the couple they once were (completely reasonable) or 3) wanting to show him she could change (caving or adjusting because of desperation). I have not seen the letter or speech.

I watched a Netflix show related to this shocking case. It's a murder that just sits on your brain for days and weeks after understanding the pure evil involved in the case. Chris seemed to have no respect for reality, his actions were so extreme it's almost like he was action out a strange dream in real life. Maybe DrG is correct to say it's a fantasy. But I also feel this was well pre planned but poorly thought out. Honestly it has all the hallmarks of someone who had a brain altered by drugs.

@azazello1784

5 ай бұрын

There is no such thing as evil.

@hatethetube46

5 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@azazello1784ok I’ll bite… What would you call the actions of Chris watts on that day in August 2018?

@azazello1784

5 ай бұрын

@@hatethetube46 Unreasonable

@ShraddaNiche

5 ай бұрын

@@azazello1784indeed a slippery slope gone wildly wrong .. he must be the dumbest or entitled sob I gladly hope I don’t know.

@Sandy-of6gq

4 ай бұрын

Afaik he did not have any substance abuse issues. Unfortunately as unimaginable as it is it seems like it was all him, sober and aware

Being a behavioral psychologist this is the video I was searching for. Thank you

In one documentary about this case I heard a great definition for Chris: "family annulator". He simply had a desire to completely annul his marriage, including the children that resulted from that marriage. In his selfish and narcissistic brain, he wanted to start life anew, as if the episode of his marriage to Shannon and the children he had with that woman never existed. That is why a simple divorce was out of the question, because a living ex-wife and children to whom he pays alimony would ruin the romantic image where only he and his mistress exist, and it would be a constant reminder of his failed life choices. I believe that he is a classic case of a spoiled male child who is approved for everything and who has learned that his rights are above the rights of others. He received the deserved punishment, and his mistress, who tried to build her happiness on someone else's misfortune, will surely be punished karmically.

@HOtellRawanDuh

2 жыл бұрын

This makes senseeeeee

@lisaperlstein9172

2 жыл бұрын

What is an annulator? Do you mean annihilator? If you’re going to write something, at least spell it correctly. You have the computer right there!

@lisacranmer8005

2 жыл бұрын

What goes around comes around and no one can mock Jeh God and be blessed.. Yes, they reap what they sowed in due time.

@lisacranmer8005

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisaperlstein9172 we all make mistakes..it was a honest mistake...people have been typing on phones for while and hit wrong key..

@JJ-iq8mi

2 жыл бұрын

Total annihilation.

He killed his wife in her sleep, then killed his two daughters. All in cold blood. He's evil.

@monicalabelle953

3 жыл бұрын

How do you know, are you a witness?

@mothman296

3 жыл бұрын

@@monicalabelle953 it's a plausible theory, she had no defensive wounds on her body and we only have chris watts' word on what happened that night

@stephaniehunter3251

3 жыл бұрын

He killed her in her sleep?? Woa

@lifeofatruckerswife

3 жыл бұрын

I believe he killed her while she was asleep also....possibly from behind... Shananns father said she was a fighter....if she was being throttled....she would have fought....anyone would...its preservation of life...shanann didnt have any self defense wounds on her body...chris didn't have scratch marks...bites...nothing.... I absolutely believe he strangled her from behind....most likely in her sleep...in her most vulnerable state, so she wouldn't fight back Chris himself said Shanaan didnt fight

@sandyrivas8281

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had it happen to me. I was sleeping & my ex husband jumped on me straddled me so I couldn’t move my arms. He placed his hands around my throat & kids were sleeping in their rooms. Thank god he let go. Fast forward okidd all grown we divorced. He doesn’t have any pictures of them in his home with new wife & kids. One thing I’d like to point out his planning and leaving but he already had the girlfriend place.

I think justice should include Kessinger being charged as an accessory to this crime.

This is absolutely one of the worst crimes we’ll ever see in our lifetime. Very few people would be capable of such cold and brutal acts. Appalling and beyond heart breaking thinking how scared and confused little Bella must have been 😞

@amcd85

Жыл бұрын

The problem though is there are many people CAPABLE of such acts due to their development, they just either lack the opportunity (to even TRY and get away with it), were never caught, or are already sitting in prison and it didn't become a nationwide, media frenzy, high profile case (an affluent white American pregnant woman victim is more politicizing & leveragable for power and mass propaganda, than anyone else). But the number one cause of death for pregnant women is not childbirth (although death rates in childbirth are highest in the US), it's homicide, usually by a partner. Domestic violence occurs every day and rates are underreported, there are plenty of people capable of such acts, but settle for lesser violent & aggressive behaviors because it's easier to get away with, because they know how wrong violent criminal acts and murder are and that prison exists. Look (if you want) at stories of women who've survived strangulation by their partners. These stories are not publicized, but many people could tell you they were strangled at one point by their partner (which means they had a 70% higher chance of being killed by them), but either fought to escape, regained consciousness and got medical help, had a more minor incident where the perpetrator stopped before they went unconscious or killed them, or simply left the relationship before it could escalate to that scenario. There are people walking around with long term physical effects from surviving strangulation. For those who don't survive, well here is one case. In his reactivity and rage he didn't stop until she was dead, and then tried to cover tracks in the worst ways possible. But he is very sadly NOT an anomaly and it is dangerous to assume or assert so. I know someone whose partner strangled them just till they were almost unconscious to assert control because they knew anymore could easily result in criminal implications, and someone else who was told by their spouse that they WOULD regularly violently assault them to keep them in check, if they weren't surrounded by a community they knew would swiftly condemn and ostracize them for it, making them lose everything and possibly be imprisoned. They're smart and that's why people get abused undetected ... until they're murdered.

Chris Watts face when she surprised him with the "I'm pregnant again " video said it all :(

@tamousha

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. That one broke my heart. She was so happy and any normal man Who truly deserved her would have been too.

@thebeasters

3 жыл бұрын

She was on Facebook way too much seeking attention. Probably because of the marriage. I'd lose my shit

@Hypno_BPM

3 жыл бұрын

Mastashake yeah i wouldn’t want a wife on social media that much either. privacy with your family is very much needed but so many women need that attention from anywhere they can get it

@ramonacarroll8388

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he definitely wasnt happy about the baby cause he had been talking to skank by then.

@HeatherDMorris

3 жыл бұрын

Yea..he goes " wow "

*What unreal about the watts case is you can watch the whole thing from 911 call, to guilty, to post prison interview all on the internet*

@RR-bd4jp

2 жыл бұрын

The only one I wish we could of seen is the handcuffs being put on him. If they have it I don't remember seeing it. Let's not forget the phony news interview or the neighbor showing himself on video camera!

@TheTERMlNAT0R

2 жыл бұрын

@@RR-bd4jp the nerve of him , with that fuckin bullshiit news interview

@RR-bd4jp

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTERMlNAT0R Yeah I remember watching it live thinking he did it

I don’t why I waited so long to see this analysis. I think this was the best one I’ve heard you do. I loved how you brought up the feelings that were involved. It made me think how we all have made bad decisions that can have a ripple affect. We all need to be careful about the decisions we make and how they can affect our lives and others.

@irisjasmincook6918

11 ай бұрын

Rest assured a Narcissist doesn't care. In hindsight I consider myself lucky because I found myself in an almost identical position. My ex narc had it also planned out. I also still feel that he had also planned on killing me because beating me up and strangling wasn't good enough. He went even so far to bring his girlfriend to our house saying that she was just a friend. He had his new life all planned out already. Apart from our daughter which I feel he just wanted to raise her with her with the least minimal input financially and emotionally. Narcissim is dangerous and please be aware especially after it ends. Police need to be better trained and lawyers

Wonderful, what a calming voice to describe such horrific things. Really helped me understand (as much as one can about these things). Got yourself a new subscriber!

It was very damaging and painful for Shannan being pregnant and being cheated on by her husband, that's so true. That alone in itself is heartbreaking.

@tamekkaknuth9612

Жыл бұрын

I use those exact words

@tamekkaknuth9612

Жыл бұрын

Love my medical field. :)

@devorah935

Жыл бұрын

@@tamekkaknuth9612 what

@Lovepeacejoy..

Жыл бұрын

💔

I’m really glad you mentioned Shannon’s suffering BEFORE the murder.

@glamdolly30

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, she was evilly gas-lit by that sly bastard - she suffered terribly, weeks B4 he murdered her & her babies. Tragic!

@kathleenhebert7757

5 жыл бұрын

correction “their babies”

@LfunkeyA

4 жыл бұрын

@@kathleenhebert7757 nah, it's her babies. the guy never referred to them as 'my' or 'mine'. let him have it his way, in prison. good chance someone will wipe him out there.

@theSpiritofTamzin

4 жыл бұрын

@@kathleenhebert7757 HER babies!! HE never cared about his daughters! Malignant narcissists like Chris only get married and have kids in an effort to make themselves seem normal... Chris was never normal, and when he met Nichol K., he wanted her, and a new lifestyle, so that is when his family's usefulness to him ran out... Idealize, devalue, discard. It's what malignant narcissists do... Chris is also a sociopath, so murder came pretty easily to him. But don't you DARE refer to those lost little girls as THEIR babies!! I can't believe your level of pettiness, correcting someone on that!!!...

@kathleenhebert7757

4 жыл бұрын

Tia Marie I hope you feel better after that rant!

Chris saying he felt like a different person during the murders is just a way for him to detach himself from his disgusting actions without taking actual accountability.

@blueseptember2174

8 ай бұрын

Narcissistic rage. It's when you don't work on yourself and you let the demons win. Lust facilitates it.

Updates to this heartbreaking story include that he admitted it was all premeditated. He's been moved to several different prisons due to threats from within, and is probably solitary 23 hrs/day. He actually fits the profile of other family annihilators; white, 30s, financial troubles. The pregnant wife didn't deserve this, but when I think about how he coldly threw away his daughters...and the older one watched, begged him not to take her...forgive me but I hope Karma (in the form of inmate or guard) delivers justice in the most excruciating way.

@marioguti9887

Жыл бұрын

It's weird but even hardened murderous criminals in prison have a sense of honor, rapists, pedophiles and child murderers are pariahs in prison and will be killed if left in the general population. They are held in solitary confinement for their own safety.

Dr Grande brings up such a good point, the utter sadness for Shannan the last weeks of you her life. She knew something was wrong & was so desperately trying to save her marriage wondering what she had done or what she could do to make it work. She reached out to her friends & was completely honest with them regarding her part in the failings. SMH her last weeks truly were sad.

@TangledTrueCrime

2 жыл бұрын

I know!! It’s absolutely heartbreaking! I wish she had fought and killed him instead! If only she had known WHO he really was....

@markprange4386

2 жыл бұрын

@@TangledTrueCrime: Shanann had some awareness of danger from Chris; to a friend she had texted that she was afraid for her unborn. Mrs Rzucek must have had a subconscious sense that Shanann was in danger: Mrs. Rzucek awakened in a fright the night that Shanann got back home in Colorado.

@colenexoxo8939

2 жыл бұрын

What she had done??? Belittling and abusing him emotionally shannon. She led him right into the arms of another woman. Then she panicked. Her fantasy world was going to be figured out. Unfortunately what happened was Horrible...smh

@annamija4247

2 жыл бұрын

What about huge debt? How did they manage to get into debt and decide to have a third child?

@annamija4247

2 жыл бұрын

@@colenexoxo8939 Belittling and abusing him emotionally Shannon?? First time I heard about it...

If there's an Oscar for best KZreadr in the category 'Mental Health Topics, based on Scientifically Information', Dr. Grande deserves to be the winner.

@Dawnseeker2000

5 жыл бұрын

There's the KZread Webby awards that have a health and fitness category. I voted for Dr. Grande last year or the year before. www.webbyawards.com/about/categories/#social-544-12166

@pocoeagle2

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dawnseeker2000 Thank you for letting me know. I didn't know this exists. I will use it to vote for Dr. Grande 🙌

@Dawnseeker2000

5 жыл бұрын

@@pocoeagle2 Oops, it's the Streamy's, not the Webby's: www.streamys.org/categories/

@pocoeagle2

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dawnseeker2000 Aah, ok I got it. Thanks

@AngelinaATF

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely stuck to the REAL DISCOVERY which is 100% all can be done here. I hope when the case starts to crack further, as I see it just about to do, ... a different set of characters may emerge & in that case, I would like to see how you ... alter your perception & dx’s. It is a truly gripping & sad case despite how one looks at it. Dr Angelina

I just discovered your channel a couple days ago. Had no idea you've been on YT for 4 years. I'm binge watching your videos and your opinions are very interesting and 99% right on.

Hearing this makes me look forward so much more to seeing and giving big hugs to my kids after they return from school.

I have two daughters and I would not be able to stop crying for a year if something happened to them. He is a monster.

@renzotube3949

2 жыл бұрын

You are showing symptoms of crazyomania .... Dr Grande !? Please say what you think 🤔

@Londonistan_Calling

2 жыл бұрын

Not an appropriate reaction for this video, I know but awww... how sweet 😥

@Mystery207

2 жыл бұрын

That’s kinda why I can’t totally understand his motive. Kill wife one thing he killed his kids as if he also hated them ? So many things about this I can’t understand , I often though parents loved their children.

@gina1emo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mystery207 Monsters only Love themselves.

@gina1emo

2 жыл бұрын

A yr is that all I’d be crying foreva🥺

The grass is not always greener people and if it is, it's fertilized with bull$hi+!

@pachohybsky6154

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, great addition to old age saying 🙂👍

@iLitAfuseiCantStop

3 жыл бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@nigelcarren

3 жыл бұрын

Bravo 🏆

@rociolovesalex

3 жыл бұрын

So true

@iLitAfuseiCantStop

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheRubberStudiosASMR nice victim blaming. Yeah, her fault he murdered his kids 🙄

Oh and brilliant as usual Dr Grande. I love you so much! I'm going to support you on patreon now. Well done on such a malevolent topic 👏

Excellent job doctor. You have by far, one of the best channels on YT, and even in this one which is four years old, you were very interesting and concise, and you've only gotten better. Thank you for doing this one as it's really intrigued me.

Definitely no remorse from what I read he killed the youngest first. Bella pleaded with her father, begging him not to do what he did to CeCe. Her pleading didn’t even snap him out of it, that’s cold and calculated

@cathygray9092

4 жыл бұрын

OMG !!!!! Life in prison is not enough punishment for this heartless , soulless savage That poor little girl :(

@brittaolson6550

4 жыл бұрын

cathy Gray Bella said exactly that, too. Of course, that’s according to Chris, but I’m thinking that’s one thing he said that WAS true, because it sure doesn’t make him look good.

@hazztv6317

4 жыл бұрын

JR 😢😢😢😢

@rawanwael4138

4 жыл бұрын

Oskar Ryberg you don’t need to be a psychologist to he able to tell that a person killing his 4 year old daughter after she pleaded him not to, after driving for 45 minutes to kill her and her sister and mom is not someone that “just snapped” but someone that is just evil and vile. I don’t see how you could ever say otherwise.

@cathygray9092

4 жыл бұрын

@Brad Sinacore I agree with you Brad. This savage had no feelings. He only knew the feeling of lust. The only justice for what he did would be if we could see the proof, of him burning in hell for 100 years. And we can not see any proof of that, so justice for his wife and three children and the pain he caused her parents and brother, will never be enough justice for this savage :(

The whole “never gonna see the kids again” and “snapping” is Chris’ story. Unfortunately Shannan can’t be here to give her side of the story. Chris’ story also at one point was such that Shannan killed the kids and he killed her. Evidently he’s done much to shift the blame on his dead wife, rather than taking responsibility for his actions. It’s likely he just decided to kill her after months of planning a life with his mistress.

@marlatrosper7064

Жыл бұрын

Very well said!

@kungazopa2831

Жыл бұрын

Chris stole the scenario of Shannan killing the girls from the female crime investigator who administered the lie detector test. He picked up that suggestion from a female “in authority” and lied that that was what occured. Chris had to be told what to do by women, starting with his most unpleasant & devious mother, Cindy. Chris needed for Shannan to be the Alpha in the dynamic between them that is until he replaced her with his next source of Narcissistic Supply, Kessinger! His life with Kessinger would have devolved rapidly too as she was very controlling, but also with a much less positive value system than Shannan.

@Kimber123

Жыл бұрын

We'll never know whether she threatened him with that, but I could see how a father would get enraged at hearing that - to the point of killing, no, but it's not right for a woman to use this as a threat. If he didn't love her, why would she want him.

@ssmith3547

9 ай бұрын

To me, his lies are so obvious. He cared so much about his kids that when she said “you’ll never see them again”, he snapped and killed her but after the supposed rage was over, he calmly strangled those babies to death. When I was going through my divorce my son was three years old. My narcissistic and cruel ex-husband told me if I divorced him he would take my son somewhere I would never find him. We had to sneak out in bare feet late at night by rolling the car out of the driveway. I was afraid for a while, but then I realized that it was all just an attempt at control. He never even attempted to visit his son let alone steal him after that. I guess I should consider myself lucky that in that way he was just a narcissist, and not a psychopath like Chris Watts. Ironically my name is Shannon also.

@a.m.9474

4 ай бұрын

@@Kimber123he wasn’t threatened with “that” by shanan at all. It’s utter 🐂💩

I appreciate the thought put into these videos. Every point is well-reasoned and as stated in the first few minutes - if Dr. Grande doesn’t feel like he’s got a handle on the topic, he takes a step back. It’s difficult not to have an emotional response topics like this and can take quite a bit of effort to get there. It’s refreshing to see someone do this so consistently.

This is my favorite video of Dr. Grande and I value that in this video there weren’t jokes. This case is just so very sad, exhale. I love how comprehensive this overview was & how sympathy was expressed for the victims.

This is a perfect example of “sleeping with your enemy”

Fascinating analysis, Dr. Grande. This case breaks my heart, but it’s also frightening. I realized recently that my ex is a pathological liar and narcissist. We were together for nearly 20 years, and I found out that he was cheating on me for the last seven of those. He is incredibly charming but lies even when there is no need to lie. It became painfully clear to me that you never truly know someone no matter how close you think you are to a person.

@leonora993

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you're doing fine now!

@designchik

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonora993 Much better now. Thank you for the kind wish. ☺️

@margaretsanfran7317

2 жыл бұрын

Mines was SAME WOULD HAVE CLIMBED A TREE TO TELL A LIE EVIL EVIL PEOPLE...

@carolbell8008

2 жыл бұрын

I feel for you, healing from a nine year narcissist “relationship “ eight months narc free, liar free!

@mireillebartoli1679

2 жыл бұрын

J'ai vecu pareille histoire que vous avec mon mari. Il mentait et menait une double vie, nous ne connaissons jamais les gens même les plus proches

Thank you for sharing your thought process while making this video. Insight into human nature is fascinating.

I completely agree with you Thank you for this analysis . I believe it will help many people. You did a fantastic job Articulating this horrific tragedy And I commend you for it.

The early morning conversation with wife could have been made up to make the murder look less premeditated . After all the guy is full of shut. The lack of struggle suggests he attacked her while she was asleep.

@aliciamesa5314

2 жыл бұрын

I believe he probably drugged her the night before, he had already decided to kill them all.???

@tamara6212

2 жыл бұрын

@@aliciamesa5314 Big possiblity.

@passionfruitprincess

2 жыл бұрын

Of course it was. No chat, no sex, no talk about their relationship, no rage. He just up & murdered her.

I'm now even more convinced that he never had any love for those 2 little girls. Looking at footage of the family the emotional detachment is actually crystal clear.

@thesummerland6165

3 жыл бұрын

agree, he's a textbook malignant narcissistic sociopath, a robot mimicking being a human and having normal emotions

@cathycollins9538

3 жыл бұрын

You’re right. He is completely emotionally detached.

@debratolbert7926

2 жыл бұрын

Truer words were never spoken. Totally agree with you.

@mariahyohannes

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly and he mimicked Shannans entire personality but most of us can see he was just going through the motions. I believe he google searched "how to act when someone tells you they love you" that right there tells me that he didn't know how to have organic human emotions. He is just a blob of emptiness.

@rougecartouche5745

2 жыл бұрын

I watched the Netflix documentary about this case, which included a lot of video footage. There's a scene in the airport where he's welcoming home his girls after their time away. It's so so cold. He literally is a blank slate. It chilled me right to the bone.

Always clear & concise in your ascertation. I hope you cover more of the psychology behind true crime/cases.

I’ve watched a lot of true crime, and this one really was the saddest story I’ve ever seen. So many unanswered questions, so much left to ponder over. I believe Chris is a psychopath, you cannot snap over potentially losing your kids & then murder them in a car. The biggest question for me is “how did his thought process lead him to believe, murdering his family was the solution?”

It's cruel when the person you completely trust is conspiring against you behind your back and you can't figure out what's going on,

I hate this disgusting case. It makes me feel like throwing up.

@TheNoSuchThingPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It upsets the hell out of me

@robinmaynard1640

3 жыл бұрын

As does the Powell case

@douglasmowat7143

3 жыл бұрын

So what makes you listen

@TheNoSuchThingPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

@@douglasmowat7143 the same thing that makes cars slow down on a highway to observe a bad car accident

@Girl-101

3 жыл бұрын

It makes me feel anxious, I already have anxiety but this case heightens it 😭😭

Thank you for this insight. It must have been very difficult to research this case. Best wishes to you and those that watch this video.

Dr. Grande I so appreciate how you talk through and explain things. There are other channels that try to psychosplain but you do it the best.

@LeanneFowler-ms5xc

9 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree with you!!!!