Ironic that McDonald's was made famous by a milkshake machine salesman yet their machines are always broken

@DinorwicSongwriter

11 ай бұрын

The product doesn’t have to be good quality, the salesman has to be.

@tmac2798

9 ай бұрын

never ran into a broken mcdonalds machine in my 30years of eating there. at least in canada anyway

@maplethebunny1936

7 ай бұрын

It's a joke that stems from UK banter, because of one ex-employee stating "It was never broken, just we didn't bother cleaning it." Ever since then it became a meme.

@baronvonnembles

7 ай бұрын

@@maplethebunny1936 No it stems from the machines being broken on a regular basis at many franchises. My wife and i have joke whenever we approach one town with a McD's because their machine is ALWAYS broken.

@MH-YouTube-Controlled

6 ай бұрын

No money in burgers and milk. It's all in the margins, if you want McDonald's to go broke buy a hamburger and a milk. Nobody does.

My heart really broke for the McDonald Brothers when they took their McDonald's sign down.

@kr1dfy453

3 жыл бұрын

They dug their own grave. Committing to a deal based on a handshake? Are you kidding me?

@ellenekanem

3 жыл бұрын

@@kr1dfy453 Well, people were more trustworthy in those days, and the brothers trusted Ray Kroc. Big mistake. Big. Huge.

@lodii7246

3 жыл бұрын

@@ellenekanem if that handshake didint happen Mcdonalds would've never came to our mouths

@45tqk45

3 жыл бұрын

Krex GB lol don't speak if you don't k ow what you're talking about

@renesalinas9025

3 жыл бұрын

Shut Up Meg

The turn from protagonist to villain was accomplished in fantastically in 110 minutes, vs Game of Thrones who couldn't do it for Danaerys for the last two seasons

@samuela9245

3 жыл бұрын

nice

@shamusbob7969

3 жыл бұрын

Lol this movie was waaay too quick, great 1st act, great acting, but overall the script felt like a bad imitation of Aaron Sorkin's expose writing.

@jamesxiaolong2199

3 жыл бұрын

And Disney couldn’t do it with two obviously evil characters either.

@wildfire9280

2 жыл бұрын

@@shamusbob7969 eh

@samuelplacensia9979

2 жыл бұрын

No he wasn’t a villain. That’s just business it happens often in the corporate world.

Folks, this right here is why you get everything on paper.

@funkyflights

3 жыл бұрын

100 percent, no option, no way, no how, just walk away and demand it in writing or the deal is off !!

@aaronsmith6416

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@itsjemmabond

3 жыл бұрын

And if possible, on video

@Oliver-cg5ud

3 жыл бұрын

THEY DID. He went around that, he had a contract. But soon he became rich, started a separate company and then when they went to court of course he had better lawyers, more money, so he beat them.

@Oliver-cg5ud

3 жыл бұрын

You’re wrong, they had a contract. But he had better people and saw a workaround. It’s not that they didn’t have it on paper, it’s that they weren’t through enough I guess

I've watched The Founder 3 times and it BAFFLES me how Michael Keaton wasn't nominated for an Oscar for this performance. He was so good in this film.

@ChadMichaelSimon

2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, everyone in the cast of The Power of the Dog was nominated. All four leads turned in ‘80s television movie-of-the-week performances on a boring script and were given the highest nod in the land.The system is broken.

@jamesfields2916

2 жыл бұрын

Saw this at the theater and I was the only person in there. Not sure why this movie didn't click. It was good.

@griswoldclark6835

2 жыл бұрын

I had to search this movie out really hard when it was released in theaters. Its like it was meant as a small release when it really should have got a great marketing push and wide release. Truly great movie

@joemckim1183

2 жыл бұрын

Well you can't really make blanket statements that a certain actor deserved to be nominated unless you axtually list who was actually nominated so we can determine who he deserved to be nominated over. There are only 5 nominations every year and there is more than 5 great acting performances every year. The lead actors that year were Casey Affleck, Andrew Garfield, Ryan Gosling, Viggot Mortensen and Denzel Washington, not exactly a bunch of chumps.

@Beltzer0072

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChadMichaelSimon I'd advise you look up how Harvey Weinstein essentially bought the Oscars in 1999, when Shakespeare in Love won best picture instead of Saving Private Ryan. It's never about the merit of the film or how good it is, it's all about sucking up to the Academy.

Dick McDonald mentioned in his final interview before his death (available on Amazon Prime) that he purchased a large portion of shares in the McDonald’s corporation shortly after selling out, and that he made “a lot of money” from this in the years since. Also, this movie is inaccurate about the royalties: Dick and Mack actually gave Kroc a choice - either he gave them $1m both up front, OR he agreed to a perpetual 0.5% royalty deal (half of what they ask for in the movie). It was difficult for Kroc, but he was able to sum up the $2m to buy them out to avoid the royalty deal. Don’t be fooled by the movie - in real life the McDonald brothers benefitted well from Kroc's success. They weren’t fools. The only travesty was that Kroc erased them from the history of McDonald's, claiming himself to be the founder. It was only after his death in the 80s that Dick and Mack were re-recognised as the true founders. PS. For the record, if a handshake deal is witnessed in the presence of attorneys, and a written follow-up made, it is just as legally binding as a signed contract. So assuming the handshake deal was even real, Kroc would not have been able to renege on it. Hence why he had to buy them out to avoid a perpetual royalty deal.

@soulsemblance3163

2 жыл бұрын

I believe you but 1 can you link where you found this? And 2 it still sucks to lose what you build from the ground up

@ken52682

2 жыл бұрын

@@soulsemblance3163 except the brothers didn't build the mcdonalds corporation from the ground up. Ray did. He did all the leg work. The brothers just wanted to manage their san bernadino location and collect royalty checks. Without ray there never would have been a international multi-billion dollar Mcdonalds corporation.

@crazymelvis5877

2 жыл бұрын

@@ken52682 Either way, he stole it, ruined it.

@dannysunay8099

2 жыл бұрын

@@ken52682 multi billions the McDonald brothers NEVER OWNED!!

@morningstar6552

2 жыл бұрын

@Brandon : Too busy villifying a businessman for being a businessman.

I felt depressed after the movie was over

@anthonytobias620

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@winser21

3 жыл бұрын

I felt inspired

@evansclan4eva49

3 жыл бұрын

@@winser21 dog eat dog, rat eat rat. Bon appetite.

@Pranks313

3 жыл бұрын

@@winser21 to each their own I guess.

@ihsankamil6279

3 жыл бұрын

Got depressed too. It made me hungry and bought some McDs

I took a few business classes in college and let me tell you, this movie should definitely be shown. It’s the brutal truth of business and most people are too afraid to tell you this when you start out. Lives will be ruined, and if not, then there will definitely be people who will resent you.

@cowsmuggler1646

Жыл бұрын

Old McDonald had a farm and now he doesn't.

@hoptard

Жыл бұрын

@@cowsmuggler1646 e i e i ohhhhhhh sh*t

@rangergxi

Жыл бұрын

He came out of it a millionaire so I would hardly call him a loser.

@JohnSmithyy365

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much goes with doing anything substantial in life.

@CamaroAmx

Жыл бұрын

No business becomes successful without stepping on someone else along the way. Most businesses become successful by if not doing crime (maybe not a crime at the time), then at minimum, doing things of seriously questionable morals.

They knew the handshake deal was no good. I guess they felt they had no choice.

@andywood375

3 жыл бұрын

I doubt it happened in real life. I've read that if a handshake deal is witnessed by lawyers, it counts just as much as in writing. But for the purpose of the movie, I guess at this point they just wanted closure, and were happy to walk away with their cheques alone.

@Elchompiras04

3 жыл бұрын

@@andywood375 so the handshake is just for adding drama to the story? I wouldn't accept that handshake. It just has no sense

@RoastBeefSandwich

3 жыл бұрын

​@@andywood375 a handshake deal or verbal contract in general is just as binding as a written contract, lawyers don't have to be present.

@Wired4Life2

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoastBeefSandwich But a handshake ends and words float out into the ether, unlike ink on paper.

@jonaslafleur2429

3 жыл бұрын

Kroc fooled them knowing that they were nice guys and he was a shark.A very important scene in this movie is when Kroc comes and gives them flowers and a blank cheque at the hospital.Kroc gave them a choice but they didn't stake their claim.The McDonald's brothers were too stubborn and narrow minded to see Kroc's vision.He just played them because they gave him no choice.

And they never saw that 1%.

@marcoAKAjoe

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah bcuz they were dumbasses

@PradaYouJosh

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcoAKAjoe ikr they should’ve listened and thought about it

@kirstenholmes6081

3 жыл бұрын

@@PradaYouJosh they kept getting lied to and wasn’t fully aware

@bricksblood200

3 жыл бұрын

Well, kroc work hard for his business, they just create problems for him.

@WhoBlah21

3 жыл бұрын

@@bricksblood200 Kroc overstepped his boundaries and contract in a business that he didn’t help found. The business was doing well without him.

Keaton was such a lovable prick in this movie.

@james9311

3 жыл бұрын

Good actor

@dangitzcory

3 жыл бұрын

James seems like every Michael Keaton movie

@BLACKMETALMUZIK

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao fr

@prodigygaming5102

3 жыл бұрын

Basically every role he plays

@samuri1887

Жыл бұрын

Loveable in the first 30 min. After that I hated bro😂

Kroc’s vision was incredible. What he did was amazing. But can’t say I didn’t feel sorry for the brothers. Especially watching Mac in the movie, he was such a nice guy. Unfortunately though being a nice guy won’t get you far in the world of business, which was why Kroc was so successful

@OfficialGangSets

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure their quality of food was far better than the franchised version. McDonald's is garbage

@nomado.3855

3 жыл бұрын

@@OfficialGangSets actually Kroc made sure that every franchisee follow the brothers standards of food quality, after he died things well ya know, turn very bad, but I have to say that not all McDonald's establishments are bad.

@marcoAKAjoe

3 жыл бұрын

@@nomado.3855 truth

@User-sb6er

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@anthonyvillanueva5226

2 жыл бұрын

I'm actually more mad about his marriage

“A guy named McDonald, he’s never gonna be pushed around in life.” “That’s clearly not the case.” “So, you DON’T have a check for 1.35 million dollars in your pocket?” I know he’s supposed to be the villain here, but Ray’s kinda got a point there.

@Rockhound6165

Жыл бұрын

I keep replying to others that $1.35 million is over $12.5 million today. He didn't leave these men in the gutter like other big deals where the true founder was given peanuts.

@CamaroAmx

Жыл бұрын

@@Rockhound6165 except for the fact that when the brothers started a new restaurant, not fast food, Kroc sued them for using a name similar to McDonald’s. He then built a McDonald’s next door and did everything he could to run them out of business. It worked and the restaurant went belly up within 5 years and the brothers went broke.

@kevina5337

Жыл бұрын

Plus a million back then was worth like $10 million today... They got enough to do whatever they wanted with the rest of their lives, as long as they don't blow the money like idiots

@kevina5337

Жыл бұрын

@@CamaroAmx if you get a check for $1.3 million (worth like $10 million today) and you're broke 5 years later you've got no one to blame but yourself LOL

@alexx960

Жыл бұрын

@@Rockhound6165 lol but $12.5 million dollars is nothing considering the fact that McDonalds is worth over $196,000,000,00 BILLION dollars in todays money.

The biggest finesse and steal of business history damn. Is like your buying apple for $1 Million or less and your only giving the original guy who created it like $5 dollars

@nickc4063

3 жыл бұрын

thats not exact, McDonalds wouldn't have been as big as it is today with out Mr. Krock. A better analogy would be to buy a house for 100k and then flipping it to be worth 100mil, yeah the original owners didnt get much from it but they wernt going to turn it into 100mil.

@robinabernathy2829

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the "Famous Amos" dude. He can't even use his own name.

@marcoAKAjoe

3 жыл бұрын

@@robinabernathy2829 who??

@ZEROs0000

3 жыл бұрын

Little late but wait till you see Social Networking

@blubaylon

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickc4063 That's like stealing a 100k house and then saying "I turned it into 100mil so I'm not a scumbag"

This is probably where the phrase, "What a Kroc." Comes from.

@alexnoble3815

2 жыл бұрын

Wowwww 👍

@strangelee4400

2 жыл бұрын

'Crock' is an earthenware bowl. 'Crock of gold' is a very old saying. It's probably a reversal of that saying when people were disappointed to find out there was no treasure but a 'Crock of shit'.

@PyroJohn19

Жыл бұрын

​@@strangelee4400 ty for the education!

@honrodgers9472

2 ай бұрын

Cigarettes

Kroc saw the true potential of McDonald's.

@crispychicken2003

3 жыл бұрын

*The Golden Arches*

@dylanreynolds62

3 жыл бұрын

John Smith right on... don’t get me Wrong I get why he did it but he pretty much sandbagged them too

@podsmpsg1

3 жыл бұрын

@@dylanreynolds62 he was smart.

@josephstalin6913

3 жыл бұрын

He fucked it all up

@luisbaltazar127

3 жыл бұрын

Crosses , flags ..... ARCHES

Deep story aside, this movie is a really good business case about strategizing and planning for scale. You don't have to be a genius to make it work, you just have to understand it's an important step and then find people to help you.

@kbanghart

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but do it the right way, not the way he did it.

@kan1039

Жыл бұрын

By destroying other people's life?

@kbanghart

Жыл бұрын

@@kan1039 well I don't think he destroyed the lives of the brothers, they had money but I'm sure his wife didn't enjoy it when he left her for the other married woman.

@kan1039

Жыл бұрын

@@kbanghart money is not everything the older brother had diabety, he was sick he loved his restaurant. He felt he was idiot by helping Ray. These things change people forever.

@kbanghart

Жыл бұрын

@@kan1039 that's true. People don't realize what others go through. It's too bad they couldn't get Ray to give them the 1%.

The way he says “Bye, Dick.” Kills me every time.

@vic748

6 ай бұрын

Says it without a comma. just “Bye Dick!”

@FaqihArdani-qg5yx

5 ай бұрын

🍆dick

Kroc actually had a legit point here. The McDonald's brothers were never going to turn it into anything bigger than 1 restaurant & he made them $1.35 million from that check, plus the franchising revenue before Kroc took over. The dude earned it.

@nerd6414

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I dont get why the people think of the Brothers as the victims, Kroc deserved it all. The brothers don't even deserve the 16 mil(in today's money) cuz their store was never going to make that much and they had no interest in expanding, they got even that much bcoz of Ray. He was not the villian

@zeroronaldo9313

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerd6414 lol haha

@rayloc420

2 жыл бұрын

truth

@aug-pahunters51

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerd6414 not only that, but investing in '61 private equity would have made them 100x in 20 years. I still have Disney shares that I bought with my communion money in 1990. Split multiple times.

@lobo0

2 жыл бұрын

Nah they would’ve grew and he took advantage of that.

And this is where the saying: " What a Kroc" came from.

the mcdonald brothers only got .00000828 percent of mcdonalds current net worth, pretty crazy

@WaffleSauze

3 жыл бұрын

way less than that

@Oliver-cg5ud

3 жыл бұрын

It was supposed to be more

@iliaadamanthark8336

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest, they could've just bought a lot of McDonald's shares back then with that million dollars... Maybe they were not that confident with what their own company could do in the future...

@rs72098

3 жыл бұрын

@@iliaadamanthark8336 Exactly! They could have reinvested $100,000 in stock, and had a huge revenue stream. 1 million in 1961 is equivalent to 8 million today. The McDonalds brothers still died very wealthy.

@blackksabbath

3 жыл бұрын

Now adjusted for inflation they were paid .00000000986% (Im a business major and I totally made that up cause who gives a fuck?)

This movie is an amazing piece of film. Tells this incredible story and shows a businessman exposing his true colors and being a cutthroat jackal along with the heartbreak of two brothers that wanted to keep it simple. I could watch this over and over again.

@drestathagangsta8880

Жыл бұрын

They could've avoided that heartbreak by not going into business with him in the first place. Don't think they didn't know what type of man they were dealing with in Ray. Ray saw dollar signs and wanted growth while they didn't. Can't feel too much sympathy for them.

@brentfarvors192

10 ай бұрын

It was inevitable. If not for Crock, someone else would have quickly realized the potential and copied their design...Except for claiming to be the "founder", (for which, they were eventually given credit), it was the best deal they could have received @ the time...The movie was also wrong about the royalties; They had a choice, and took the cash over the royalties; Then, bought stock in the company. All in all, they made out better than Crock, since all his shares were sold after his death, and the proceeds donated to charity.

@playversetv3877

10 ай бұрын

i mean the brothers had a choice, they did it. im sure they were happy with the decision in real life

Despite Kroc being a sly bastard and how heartbreaking it must’ve been for the brothers they didn’t have the vision that made McDonald’s what it is

@jakeplumber1373

2 жыл бұрын

That and nobody forced them to accept that deal

@jakeplumber1373

2 жыл бұрын

@@amitkenan3878 oh stfu

@samuelplacensia9979

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Kadabera

2 жыл бұрын

@@amitkenan3878 actually we bring that on ourselves its a person's choice to order a big Mac large fries and drink with nuggets and a mcflurry really you could order a mcdouble small fry and drink and be happy 😊

@andrewn5239

2 жыл бұрын

@@amitkenan3878 I dont understand how people can look them selves in the mirror and still think like this. Do restaurants force people to eat? Do restaurants prohibit people from exercising? Honestly, how can you honorably blame a restaurant for the state of people’s bodies? Its not the McDonald’s fault that people are choosing to eat there. You and you alone are responsible for your own body and health. By the way, a meal at McDonalds costs roughly $6-8 dollars. While a nice organic salad and a gallon of water costs less than $6 after tax at my local grocery store. So people clearly have the choice to eat healthier and save a little money while doing so.

The thing I appreciate about this movie is that while they portray Ray Kroc to be the villain (and in many aspects, he is), they leave the door open to interpretation. Was Ray Kroc really that brutal of a business man? Or did the McDonald brothers just enrage him to that point that he felt the need to go around them? All the while he was expanding the brand of McDonald's, they were along with him for the ride but they refused to give him any room to help the franchisees (and therefore the brothers) make more money. What would the story of McDonald's be had the brothers listened to Ray about menu advertisements? About instant milkshake mix and cutting out the freezer costs? About allowing Ray to get a small percentage more of the pie? Was Ray Kroc a ruthless business man or did he just have more vision for what McDonald's could really become?

@yourvenparianen5390

Жыл бұрын

he is just the better businessman, you have to be ruthless to be successful

@Seahawkfan1108

10 ай бұрын

He just had the better vision and sensed more opportunities than the McDonald brothers. But yea....he was ruthless, pretty much a villain

@josephososkie3029

10 ай бұрын

Ray was pure sociopath, not even just having the traits. All his actions. Just running on narcissistic injury.

@joeblow2069

6 ай бұрын

All Ray Kroc did was make the McDonald's brothers rich. Why do so many idiots act like they got a bad deal? They did not have to sell out. They were getting royalties from every dollar in sales at every restaurant.

@joeblow2069

6 ай бұрын

@@Seahawkfan1108 The bastard made the Mcdonalds brothers rich! How dare he.

The one guy was staring at Ray like he wanted him to burst into flames. These guys were just too nice from the get go.

@charlesg7926

2 жыл бұрын

They weren’t nice. If they were nice, the one guy would not have wanted him to burn into flames. They were weak. There’s a difference between nice and weak. Never confuse kindness with weakness

The fact that it was a handshake deal should of been the first sign that they were going to get swindled.

@jotarokujo5132

16 күн бұрын

they didn't. they got more money than they ever made on their own.

@countquackula8539

16 күн бұрын

@@jotarokujo5132 I'm talking about their 1% cut of future profits.

The thing is that Kroc took the McDonald brothers ideas and made it nation and eventually a worldwide success. In real life, the brothers made a lot of money, but what Kroc did was essentially as one of the comments said seem like he was the founder. It wasn't until after Kroc died that the corporation actually acknowledged the brothers as the founders.

@electrictroy2010

Жыл бұрын

RAY KROC DIDN’T INVENT the franchise concept. The brothers did. If he had not joined, we’d still have a national chain of McDonalds but on a smaller scale (like Wendys or Arbys or In N Out) .

@nicoledickson6099

Жыл бұрын

​@@electrictroy2010the brothers didn't even want that, they legit only wanted one location

@S0L12D3

Жыл бұрын

@@nicoledickson6099 and they got one location along with one million dollars which was a tremendous amount of money back then. That’s a lot for being complacent. In all honesty the brothers are lucky that he didn’t just create his worn franchise. They never had any ambition to grow

@tylerharris4392

Жыл бұрын

@@S0L12D3 "ambition to grow" dude, u obviously didnt watch the movie

2 million is worth 18 million today, for those of you who are understandably upset by the ending. The lawyer in this scene was also pushed out of the corporation by Ray Krok.

@amunra4015

2 жыл бұрын

And they very well could've bought the IPO of McDonalds with those checks and be billionaires today with $50m per year in dividend income. But they didn't because they never had the ability to see the big picture. The truth is, the McDonald brothers got exactly the amount of worth they brought to the table and it's probably more than they ever would have got if Ray never entered the picture.

@kbanghart

2 жыл бұрын

@@amunra4015 false. Kroc wasn't nice guy. He stole their 1% just because he was a narcissist. In the movie they all knew the brothers didn't have money, so couldn't afford a good lawyer. He took advantage of them. He also tried to oppose a minimum wage bill, and supported Nixon. But he was a drunk, and heart failure caught up to him... and cheated on his wife . Karma?? And I love how his wife gave tons of money away to causes like NPR (that Trump supporters hate). Oh, and he originally didn't want McDonald's and urban areas so people wouldn't break into the stores... In other words of course people with less money, generally people of color. Oh yeah and sure, make the food cheap to eat, give you obesity but that's ok.

@amunra4015

2 жыл бұрын

@@kbanghart How is it false? $1 million dollars bought at the $22.50 IPO price would've got them 44,444 shares. After stock splits, today they'd had 32,400,000 shares. Stock is $241 today. Thats $7.8 billion dollars. Annual dividend is $5.52 which means they'd get $178 million per year in dividends today. So yeah, the only way its false is that i UNDERESTIMATED, the dividend income.

@kbanghart

2 жыл бұрын

@@amunra4015 my comment about it being false is that I disagree with what you said about their amount of worth. In the movie, and I'm going just on that for now because I haven't done any other research, but in the movie Kroc offers them a blank check of sorts, asks them what they will take. He then agrees verbally to 1%. Of course, in the meeting with the lawyers, he says no, and all parties knew (discussed earlier) that the brothers don't have the $ to fight. Now, IRL *if* Kroc said hey, invest it, and in fact I've heard they did invest some, great. But the fact remains that he went back on his word. Plus, I'm also taking into account the fact that he cheated and left his wife for someone else who was also married. These combined factors put him pretty low in my view. However, I love the fact that after he died, his wife gave away the tons of money to different causes, one of them npr.

@-007-2

Жыл бұрын

@@kbanghart ​ - Wow. You sound like a terribly bitter and hate filled person. The amount of hate-filled dog whistling in your comment is astonishing. 1) Misusing the word narcissist. Go look up the clinical definition of "narcissist" because it doesn't mean "selfish person I don't like". Misusing negative labels to stereotype someone is a classic tactic of a bigot. 2) Oppose minimum wage bill. (Any source of evidence?) Classic socialist / communist anti cooperate dog whistling. 3) Using your personal hatred of Nixon to smear Kroc by association. Again showing your bigotry and bias. 4) Drunk? more "evil" person dog whistling. 5) Heart failure - you are gleeful about another person's poor health? Implying he deserved to have poor health? Wow. 6) Cheating on his wife. You imply he's an evil person for cheating, but know NOTHING of the circumstances. Classic labeling and bigotry. Strangely dog-whistling to the religious crowd here? 7) Gleefully rejoicing in his money being donated to the NPR, without even knowing if Kroc supported it or not. 8) Wild attack at Trump supporters for some reason. Now, dog-whistling for the left-side. Again showing your labelling, hatred, and bigotry. (as well as your ability to be brainwashed by media). 9)You try to label him a racist next, by taking a VERY long stretch; but don't know what the definition of "Urban" is. Classic extreme left dog-whistling. 10) Then the final cherry on top is trying to blame HIM for the Obesity Epidemic, even though ANYONE who would have brought McDonalds into prevalence would have inadvertently done the same thing. (Also ignoring EVERY American's freedom of choice. Suddenly Kroc has taken away everyone's personal agency?) You need to take a LONG look in the mirror. That was a LOT of bitter vitriol and red flags showing how programmed and bigoted you are. In fact; you are so idiotically programmed that you are subconsciously littering your comments with an astonishing amount ideological dog whistles. You are a literal talking head robot. No freedom of thought demonstrated at all. You are not in a healthy state of mind or heart. In fact, I suggest you are as bad, or worse, off as you feel Kroc was. Wake up and get help.

Why didn't the McDonalds brothers' lawyer advice against such thing? It was obvious Kroc was gonna break the deal if it's not on paper.

@michaelsong5555

3 жыл бұрын

@Javier Navarro I'm specifically talking about "handshake for royalty", which Kroc did not keep his end of the bargain, obviously.

@andywood375

3 жыл бұрын

It never happened in real life. Legally, if a handshake deal is witnessed by the attorneys, it counts the same as if it were in writing. But for the purpose of the movie, I guess the McDonald's brothers were burned out and just wanted closure and be rid of Kroc for good.

@M3Lucky

2 жыл бұрын

@@andywood375 it DID happen in real life. Geez look it up

@zhibaniola6460

2 жыл бұрын

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@michaelsong5555

2 жыл бұрын

@@andywood375 No, it doesn't. The devil's in the detail, esp when it concerns business deals. You need to be able to present it in the court. The lawyers witnessing the handshake doesn't mean anything, even in the real world, because finer detail must and will be discussed, and there would be disagreements. And that opens up just about everything.

Biggest “doh!” In business history

@jeremydyar7566

3 жыл бұрын

I mean Kross Mcdonalds and the Mcdonalds Brothers Mcdonalds aren't really the same thing at all.

It is just crazy / sad a random stranger came into their life and pretty much stole their idea / company. Can you believe it ?

@RELubber

3 жыл бұрын

Stole the company? Dick and Mac McDonald willingly agreed to let Ray Kroc franchise the restaurant. They got 1.5% profit from EVERY location. And they agreed to a MILLION DOLLAR PROFIT each to sell everything to Kroc. And they got that million dollars in 1961! Sorry, no sympathy here.

@jessejames863

3 жыл бұрын

@@RELubber That is a good question? Why did they sell? In the film, it makes it look like they have no choice but to sell? One of the brothers even says, we can never beat him. So in the movie, they make it seem like the brothers had no choice.

@isaiahyoung6930

3 жыл бұрын

MrWalt they did not get any of it though. Ray held onto it.

@user-bs6os7dn5v

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessejames863 If you remember on the phone near the end when they were talking on the phone, Ray said he already has alot of ownership of real estate in different states and the brothers only had local ownership. So ray more power to buy them, and the brothers didn't.

@Infinity17728

3 жыл бұрын

That’s life.

This is my favorite scene. “Even you don’t know what it is...”

"You wanna eat at Kroc's?" sounds like you wanna chew on a slipper.

I never understood why the bothers never used one of the million to buy McDonald’s stock. Buying the stock in the 50s or 60s, whenever this happened, would of made them a major owner and major cash windfall for decades.

@cryptoal8577

3 жыл бұрын

Dick bought a lot of the stocks soons it went public.. he said that's all he was waiting for soon as they sold it

@rakkoolthediju2909

3 жыл бұрын

alseyni dansokho Source?

@JJ-id3lq

3 жыл бұрын

I looked it up and they went public in 1965, with over 700 franchises. I don’t know if the bother bought any stock...

@joeblow2069

2 жыл бұрын

Good point. They knew what Kroc could do. They seem too conservative for something like that. More like CD type guys.

@rasheemthebestfirstone3274

2 жыл бұрын

@@cryptoal8577 source?

Kroc was relentless and an American success story as well has the McDonald's brothers. The brothers created the the idea and brand and Kroc made it an empire. 2.7 million is 1961 is around $24 million in todays money. Not bad after 6 years of leasing out your brand at that time.

@electrictroy2010

Жыл бұрын

RAY KROC DIDN’T INVENT the franchise concept. The brothers did. If he had not joined, we’d still have a national chain of McDonalds but on a smaller scale (like Wendys or Arbys or In N Out) .

@Youraveragegamer_97

Жыл бұрын

​@@electrictroy2010 No they wouldn't they would have only had up to 3 or 4 chain restaurants in the state, let alone across the country

@Youraveragegamer_97

Жыл бұрын

​@@electrictroy2010 Also speaking in all caps doesn't make your point more valid

@joeb2860

Жыл бұрын

Just like TSLA

@l.alaker3569

Жыл бұрын

@@Youraveragegamer_97 before they met Kroc they had 20 franchises restaurants and 8 of there own so yeah they where going to expand

Never make a deal with someone that refuses to put it on paper. Family, friends, strangers; put it on paper.

The way he says “Bye Dick” at the end when he walks away is PERFECT. You can just feel the “in your dreams loser” type expression in his voice.

@wall8080

4 ай бұрын

Not only is he done with the conversation, he’s done with the brothers. He’s taken what he wanted from them and they’ve got no recourse. It’s over. Such a great performance by Keaton

During the handshake scene its obvious Kroc knows they won't get the royalties. The subtle use of the word "unfortunately" he uses twice tells it all.

"You sure about that?" That shit gives me chills. This scene is amazing.

I passed this movie sooooo many times when looking for something new to watch . Turns out it was a phenomenal movie with valuable lessons to be learned and at the same time very inspirational

Out of principle and health, I won't be going to mcdonalds again.

@airplanegod

3 жыл бұрын

Out of spiting you, I will be eating at McDonalds from now on.

@rs72098

3 жыл бұрын

They took their yogurt parfaits and salads off the menu, worst decision to date. Most millennials know how unhealthy it is and will eventually stop eating there. They've noticed a slowdown in sales, also due to impersonal computer cashiers.

@shamusbob7969

3 жыл бұрын

@@airplanegod I'll be eating McDonalds on my own accord, I don't do things based on what others do, I go to McDonalds cause I'm hungry and I live in a corporate fucking hellscape.

@God_3712

3 жыл бұрын

@@shamusbob7969 hell yes

@gorillone86

3 жыл бұрын

Haven't been to a McDonald's in 2 years, haven't regretted It.

Michael keaton is good in this scene. You just feel his dominance here and overpowering of the Macdonald brotheres. He saw the whole chess board ...big picture guy

I feel bad for the brothers but this is basically someone coming in and taking it to the next level. Business can bring the evil out of a lot of people but you have to remember this person wants out of whatever shitty life they have. Crock seen it, jumped on it and eventually made it his own franchise. As a fellow business owner I hope this never happens to me but I can also see both sides.

@201hastings

Жыл бұрын

This movie is close to 100% bullshit fyi

Michael Keaton' s scariest role.

@jacobtennyson9213

Жыл бұрын

He was THE BATMAN!

Following this deal, one brother went into a management role at a local government in Indiana, the other was later suspected to be the zodiac killer although it was never able to be proven.

@paulwalker7498

2 ай бұрын

beyond underrated comment hahahaha this is gold

I just paid $17 CAD for large fries, 4 nuggets, a double cheeseburger and a medium chocolate shake. That's a load of crock right there.

Anyone who sells milkshake machines cannot be trusted. Lesson learned

@giosy0072

Жыл бұрын

However, there's a silver lining to this story. I don't know Maurice, but Richard has never held a grudge against Ray Kroc. In fact, when he said his name he always had a gentle tone.

Kroc finessed them so well he sent ol boy to the hospital

Never make a deal unless it's on paper

just finished this on netflix, good movie, watched it right after the social network and damn the parallels

@jacksonplaysgames2422

3 жыл бұрын

I just realized how similar they are

@thechrisman1345

3 жыл бұрын

Especially similar in the fact that they are not even 95% correct

@X_479

3 жыл бұрын

I watched it straight after the social network too

@youareloved1455

2 жыл бұрын

@Ketan Kulkarni More so the betrayal between Mark and Eduardo.

@youareloved1455

2 жыл бұрын

@@thechrisman1345 Of course not, why would anyone expect a hollywood movie based on real events to be 95% accurate? That's pretty insane accuracy. At the end of the day it's a movie *based* on real events, not a historical documentary.

This 1% thing was actually disputed. The only claim came from a nephew of the brothers. Richard and Maurice themselves have never commented on it.

Much of what was in the Founder didn’t happen. He didn’t cheat the brothers out of royalties. They gave them up for the sale money.

God never realized how great and actor Michael Keaton is!!!

It wouldn’t be easy to say no to the handshake deal when it means you’ll get a $1.35 million cheque immediately (worth like 10 million today)

Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well. Thanks for posting this.

"Don't talk to us. Talk to Mayor Mccheese."

If Kroc didn’t franchise and expand McDonald’s, McDonald’s would probably not be the world’s biggest restaurant today. He saw the true potential in McDonald’s.

@ctwishkeyprn2039

2 жыл бұрын

Some things maybe aren't meant to be global, look what it does to the people who made/created it?

@melohype396

Жыл бұрын

true potential is making America obese?

@leepalmer9558

11 ай бұрын

@@ctwishkeyprn2039 Made them infinitely rich?

The lines here were accurate. I remember reading Ray Kroc saying years later he just knew critics would say the food tasted "half-crocked" if he'd named it after himself. Also, I think here he's also talking about BRANDING and in this case, aligning it with family, mom and apple pie. The brothers didn't share the goal of building a brand.

@joeswanson733

Жыл бұрын

the brothers were making $100,000 profit cash per year from 1949 to 1954 when they first met ray. ray was the deseprate one not the brothers. the brothers had it all. lived in a nice house, had money, drove nice cars.

Not only did Ray swipe the name, he snagged the wife to boot. You gotta admire his purity..

@agathaellajadwiszczok9840

4 ай бұрын

There is an irony to this. He took the name....but he made it immortal. They couldn't have done that on their own. Everyone on the planet has heard of McDonald's, even the Amish. No one knows who Kroc was.

it a shame to see what type of man he became when he got successful his greed and envy poison his character

@arandomguysshh8614

3 жыл бұрын

Money gives you power and power makes who u really are

@pauljorge5089

2 жыл бұрын

He was literally trying to help the bros in the movie and even asked for a higher cut bc he couldn’t afford his house and other stuff. So bc of the stubbornness of the bros Ray literally had to do what was best for him which was to buy them out at the end

@marquisford9583

2 жыл бұрын

@Jesse A what you saying is true the brother could never come to a common ground with Ray.But at end of the day no one can make us be something we're not either you is or you ain't

@marquisford9583

2 жыл бұрын

@@pauljorge5089 Yea the brother should have gave him a raise after seeing him been a great asset expand their business, That's was wrong but Ray did a lot of wrong too plus he agreed to give them royalties which they never received

They knew they were gonna get screwed out of their royalties when they shook his hand.

If they were smart they could have had continuing use of their name and logo as part of their deal and future acknowledgement that their restaurant is the official McDonald's flagship with 100% control. If you don't want it as a franchise at least secure your original restaurant's future and not risk having another built across the street to run you out of business.

@AdityaSingh-lf7oe

3 жыл бұрын

The point is, the brothers never cared about business. Exactly why the franchise thing couldnt succeed under them, they were more interested in quality.. The fact that they were ripped off is unfortunate, but that's what it is..

@daviddufresne9905

10 күн бұрын

They were retired in reality. The restaurant was owned by some former employees who they wanted to see do well, but I'm sure it wasn't quite the same as them owning it and working for it still.

Guys like Kroc are why there's things like franchises everywhere, and guys like the McDonald's Brothers who create an idea but don't know how to or don't see that special thing with their idea, I watched this movie years ago and I feel like I should watch it again, right now I'm McDonald's but I'm trying to step it up to Kroc

@texaswunderkind

Жыл бұрын

It is also why anybody with some money to invest can get a franchise of literally thousands of different businesses that already have a successful product and marketing plan. A franchise is usually a turnkey business opportunity, but the downside is that you have to pay franchise fees.

@CamaroAmx

Жыл бұрын

@@texaswunderkind franchisees existed before McDonald’s.

There are people who can screw other people over with a smile like no big deal and there are some who would feel sick of just thinking that.

@MikkoSimila

2 жыл бұрын

So how about we consumers bring Mc on its knees and let Kroc turn In his grave. They deserve it.

Remember that $2.7 millionin 1961 is around $20 million in todays (2023) terms.

@GaryTongue-zn5di

17 күн бұрын

No! No it isn't! Inflation isn't an exact science! That isn't how that works, 2 million dollars was 2 million dollars! Period!

@tomedward8652

17 күн бұрын

Actually inflation is an exact science.

Ray had vision where the brothers did not.

wow,, what a movie,, one of the best i have ever seen. Michael Keaton was incredible!!

Well done movie. You go through a bevy of emotions towards Keatons performance. He did a phenomenal job and deserves more accolades.

Was it morally reprehensible? Absolutely. But the brothers would have squandered it all if Ray Kroc hadn't show at their door and offered them the deal. Just imagine how much people might had amazing ideas over the centuries and they just were forgotten by history because while they might have hit a goldmine, they had no business sense, initiative or will to push it forward.

@kbanghart

2 жыл бұрын

Squandered what? The brothers were fine. Did you know that plenty of other fast food places also started running from mcdonald's, because of the success? So someone would have been successful even if it wasn't Kroc.

Notice how he reached his hand over to Mac first to shake. He knew exactly what he was doing. A true master at work.

@cowsmuggler1646

Жыл бұрын

McDonalds lures you with the subliminal saex. Their logo is upside down TTies. The "arches". Then they sell the Big Mac, Quarter Pounder, Mcnuggets. And then you have Taco Bell. Guess who has tacos. Once again a female bodypart. And Burger King with the whopper. That is all slang for the pecker. Big Mac, Quarter Pounder, Whopper. And also you In and out. What goes in and out? Also Shake Shack. What is a shake shack, a motel room

@Rude_Boi

Жыл бұрын

@cowsmuggler1646 and then we have Starbucks with it's logo... Jamba Juice with it's "666" logo, and the list goes on.

And that is how billions are made. New concept, strong demand, low competition, mass scale expantion.

i saw a different clip from this movie on this page earlier today, so good that i went and watched the movie again today. How Michael Keaton wasn't nominated and won for this performance is crazy. You see the character change from ambitious to shrewd and cold and with that the true nature of business is it's nothing personal, it's chess.

MICHEAL KEATON HAS ALWAYS BEEN A UNDERRATED ACTOR!:( he will always be BATMAN to me;)

1:04 The look on his face is probably the same look he had when he realized how much potential McDonalds had later on when they didn’t own it

A “handshake basis” is code word for “we don’t want legal requirements”, meaning “you’ll NOT be getting your full royalties.”

I love this movie. It taught me everything I needed to know about business.

@fullydetta5859

2 жыл бұрын

What's its name??

@startmirca

2 жыл бұрын

@@fullydetta5859 The Founder

Wouldn't wanna buy food from a restaurant named Croc's, but I'd definitely love wearing their shoes/sandals So, IDK if the 'Name' paradigm is what makes a business big, or if it's what you make of it

@stanknugget

Жыл бұрын

You don’t know anything.

@SidechainStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@stanknugget Enlighten me

@stanknugget

Жыл бұрын

@@SidechainStudios Case and point: You need enlightenment. You don’t know anything.

After their restaurant closed, the McDonald brothers went their separate ways. One went to work as an administrator in a small town parks and recreation office. The other moved to Flint, Michigan, where he became a barber.

@collinhoward651

2 жыл бұрын

That’s sad

@jayaychare7318

2 жыл бұрын

@@collinhoward651 wooosh

@danielwalker7008

Жыл бұрын

Gran Torino was set in Detroit

@stanknugget

Жыл бұрын

Mac actually became an assassin. He regrets it everyday.

@groofoot

2 күн бұрын

They didn't need to work, though; that was their choice .... in 1961, if someone handed you 1.3 million dollars, you were set for life

the golden arcs from the roof to the ground, genius now it's all ordinary

Michael Keaton (Ray Kroc) will reprise his other iconic role as Batman in The Flash in June.

"How many of them succeeded? No one ever has, and no one ever will." *Burger King has entered the chat* *In-n-Out has entered the chat*

@stanknugget

Жыл бұрын

Did the brothers give them tours of the original McDonald’s, too?

Bruce Wayne buying McDonald’s

What a movie , lessons to be learned

If the movie if accurate, McDonalds has a dark history. This was a fascinating movie. I actually felt sad for a moment.

@polishherowitoldpilecki5521

21 күн бұрын

Corrupt

"Nice guys finish last." a goddamn cliche quote that truly is a fact

@lewisburton1852

2 жыл бұрын

So they didn’t have 1.35 million dollar check? I don’t think they finished last.

McDonald's ingredients are mostly quantity not quality. Well.. they wanted quality too. That's why they made their burgers, mold resistant. But it's All grease and sugar on the inside.

Have to admit, if someone offered me today's equivalent of $13M dollars for a business I had no interest in expanding, even if I didn't want to sell it, I'd have to try a little bit to feel cheated. That's a lot of money. Guess that makes me more like the brothers than Ray.

The ability to say it all with just faces, they knew then they wouldn't get their royalties but had no fight left

I hate these hindsight-type conversations, as if any of them knew what it would actually become.

This made me cry to the brothers who basically got their company stolen by Kroc I felt bad for them but I get it him turning McDonald’s into franchisees was amazing.

@kbanghart

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@texaswunderkind

Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for the investor who got his wife (portrayed by the comely Linda Cardellini) stolen from him. Bummer, man.

@AnimationAirlines

Жыл бұрын

the bros wanted to give quality food

@Rockhound6165

Жыл бұрын

Um, getting the equivalent of $25 million didn't make it stolen. No one had a gun to their head to sell. They made out pretty good and I believe Dick McDonald became a major stock holder and when he died his net worth was in the neighborhood of $600 million. In short, he did OK.

@35mm21

Жыл бұрын

I have no love for Ray Kroc but the brother pointing out that he didn't steal the business model and instead worked to buy the company is a lot better than what he could have done. Like how Instagram just ripped off Snapchat. THAT is dirty.

Cheats on his wife, steals their Restaurant, then stabs them in the back and never gives them the 1%....what a shack of shit

@joeswanson733

Жыл бұрын

wtf kroc didn't steal the restaurant. ray wanted the brothers gone and the brothers said sure $3 million dollars cash. this was a lot of money in 1961. ray had to spend $18 million over the interest he had to pay on his loans for that $3 million in cash for hte buyout.

Michael Keaton was perfect for this movie.

This is the moment Ronald McDonald became the joker

I feel bad for the two brothers

@rs72098

3 жыл бұрын

They still became very wealthy out of this deal.

@nerd6414

3 жыл бұрын

@@rs72098 And they honestly didn't even deserve that much. They were happy in their tiny place in the world, and their restaurant would have never ever made 16m in today's money, they only got that much because of Ray

@MikkoSimila

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerd6414 nah. Kroc was scumbag, they should have gotten their 100 million as promised. McDonald's should pay them.

@MikkoSimila

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerd6414 ps. I always knew that McDonald's is company based on scums, shady deals ja it crappy all the way. You can even taste it In their food. There is no soul and no heart In it.

@jakeplumber1373

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, they're the ones that accepted the deal 🤷‍♂️

Keaton is such a great actor.

Crocs brand: write that down write that down!

Keaton's best role ever

Incredible acting by Michael Keaton. I have to watch this movie.

When asked later they said they were fine with the deal, they lived out their lives as millionaires thanks to Ray Kroc

@metsrus

5 ай бұрын

how much revenue did their original store bring in? seemed pretty successful

@khabbad

5 ай бұрын

@@metsrus They were nowhere near as successful. I read they were making about 40k a year with their restaurant, thanks to Kroc they had an equivalent to 10 million dollars. The movie also fails to show that Dick had no interested in traveling all over the country to open new franchises the brothers wanted to be bought out

@metsrus

5 ай бұрын

@@khabbad seemed like Kroc did them a favor, but the movie had to create some fake ass drama

Ray Kroc did all the work building McDonald’s into a franchise. Ray Kroc bought them out for what would be 23 million dollars today, where they had one shop prior. Ray Kroc turned there name into something everyone in the world knows. He’s seen as the villain, over some rumor he offered them a 1% royalty, which if true, they were morons for not getting in the contract. Ray Kroc is the hero to this story, because he turned a billion dollar idea into multi billion dollar company. The McDonald’s Bros stayed in San Bernardino when Ray Kroc built an empire, making no money for years.