Keep your religion to yourself and stop spreading it first.

@Johnmhatheist

6 ай бұрын

I was about to comment that, but you beat me to it

@user-wg8vc2is4w

6 ай бұрын

This is a phone-in show. Religious views are positively solicited

@Johnmhatheist

6 ай бұрын

@user-wg8vc2is4w What we mean is in real life. If theists want us to keep our atheism to ourselves, theists must keep their religion to themselves in real life.

@user-wg8vc2is4w

6 ай бұрын

@@Johnmhatheist my point is still relevant. You can't solicit people calling in to the show and then shut them up. The whole point of the show is to debate and debunk theists.

@Johnmhatheist

6 ай бұрын

@user-wg8vc2is4w I'm not talking about on this show. Of course. Theists, call in, make asses of y'all'selves with y'all's irrational arguments. All I'm saying is that in real life, theists tell us to keep our atheism to ourselves out there in the real world but will gladly shove their religion down our throat. They're being hypocritical.

A few times a week, on my way home from work, I drive past a guy in a yard full of signs screaming at me telling me why I'm a terrible person and will burn in hell. But yeah, I need to keep my beliefs to myself...

Would Slavic count being gay as immoral if it would hurt the rest of a bigoted family? What about surgery? It causes physical pain, but is necessary in the long term.

I no longer speak with my family because of their hateful actions. You sometimes have to protect yourself.

Let's make a deal: Keep Your Theism to Yourself!

@theendisthebeginningistheend

6 ай бұрын

The caller wasn't a theist, he was a Buddhist.

@TiKallisti

6 ай бұрын

@@theendisthebeginningistheend Fine, then lets make a slightly different but in essence same deal: Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself! (as G. Carlin used to phrase it)

@ossiedunstan4419

6 ай бұрын

And stop raping children !

@ossiedunstan4419

6 ай бұрын

@@theendisthebeginningistheend , Absolute rubbish, if you pray to Buddha , You are not a Buddhist . Buddhism is about a pathway to ascension, Nothing else, get the Writing of Buddha and learn . Buddha died a very slow painful death. Your ignorant

They say as they call into a call in show lmfao...

@holygore

6 ай бұрын

If they had any kind of introspection they probably wouldn’t be a theist.

@theendisthebeginningistheend

6 ай бұрын

​@@holygoreThey weren't though. They were Buddhist.

@Farce13

6 ай бұрын

​​@@theendisthebeginningistheendBuddhists are theists... Forehead

It's as meaningless as saying "Keep your Aphilately to yourself". How dare you not collect stamps!

I've never heard karma as one of Newton's laws of motion. Feels a little ad hoc to me...

@baronmilo371

6 ай бұрын

Nah, just poorly explained. Since karma is based on the law of causality, action (cause) and reaction (effect) is not too far off.

@sparki9085

6 ай бұрын

@@baronmilo371 I get that part, it's the "Newton's laws affect matter, therefore karma exists" jump that gets me. Especially when I have no reason to believe karma exists.

@Farce13

6 ай бұрын

​@@baronmilo371except newtons laws only apply to motion of physical objects, not ambiguous cosmic forces

Why should I keep my atheism to myself while religious people are perfectly comfortable forcing their beliefs onto me, my body, my family, and my relationships? I absolutely refuse to let someone’s bad ideas influence me just because I don’t want to make waves or cause them to feel bad about their beliefs 😂😂😂 pinecone

@kenshiloh

6 ай бұрын

Atheist Penn Jillette has no respect for Christians who do not share their faith. How monstrous, how cold-hearted do you have to be not to warn someone of eternal hell and to share that there is eternal life through the Cross of Christ? I hope you will not take offence at this post, but all those who do not make things right with Christ will have an eternity to lament about it. It is my neighborly duty to warn you! I hope that you will be open to Jesus. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

@tarayarizzo6602

6 ай бұрын

@@kenshiloh threats don’t work on me 😘

@kenshiloh

6 ай бұрын

@@tarayarizzo6602 Hell is only a threat if it is unjustified. For example, would it be a 'threat' to warn a bank robber about jail? It is just common sense! Ever hear the phrase, "Noboy's perfect"? Those two words hold the key to the secret to life: there is a moral law that no one lives up to. Yet, any law broken produces consequences. There is an afterlife where all wickedness will be judged. Is that a threat? How about: if you are a good person, you have nothing to worry about? However, if you have lied and stolen, you should be tried as a lying thief. The Cross is our only hope. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

@tarayarizzo6602

6 ай бұрын

@@kenshiloh comparing “existing” to actually causing harm is just one of the reasons I can’t take yall seriously. If you want to believe in some kind of punishment for existence be my guest. Until god shows up and tells me personally, his lackeys can only go so far to convince me and none of them have. Have I done bad things? Sure. Do any of the warrant eternal punishment? Only if you’re a psychopath ❤️

@kenshiloh

6 ай бұрын

@@tarayarizzo6602 If you knew God, you would know that you deserve hell. You have no idea how wicked your own heart is. How many lies have you told? Do you belong with God, Who never lies, or with satan, who is the 'father of all lies'? For example, have you ever stolen anything? If so, then you are a lying thief. Where do you deserve to spend eternity? Frankly, I am glad that there are no lying thieves in heaven. Should I have to lock my heavenly mansion? Will there be lying politicians in heaven? You can argue hell until you are blue in the face, but you are not fit for a perfect heaven. Do you agree or do you consider yourself to be a morally perfect person? Where do you deserve to go? Christ died on a Cross for our sins. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

The interesting exception to the point Slavic made is that you're bound to be in a position where you choose to harm a sentient being in order to prevent hundreds or thousands of sentient beings from being harmed. Such as if someone had a chance to murder Adolf Hitler, for example, before he started his rampage. "Avoiding harming sentient beings" is really not a thing.

@Leith_Crowther

6 ай бұрын

It’s more like “avoid allowing as many sentient beings who don’t deserve it to come to harm as possible.”

'Natural Law' is a renaming of 'God's moral law is written on everyone's heart.' The idea was invented by Aquinas to explain how non-Christians are naturally able to learn, care for others and to feel shame and guilt without the Church.

@ossiedunstan4419

6 ай бұрын

First prove god , then you go an an claim more rubbish. Till then keep your trap shut

Someone told me I needed j.c. in my life & when I said I was an atheist they were not only in a state of disbelief but also somewhat offended..... get over it.....

If only they kept their belief to themselves; from shouting on street corners to missionaries invading other countries en masse and insisting other people change their belief to theirs.

The Arab known as 'Jesus' commanded his followers to keep their beliefs to themselves and not scream 'bout their beliefs in public like a street corner Harpy.

@davidallen111

6 ай бұрын

Jesus, if he existed, was Jewish. He was not born or live in Arabia. However, both Jews and Arabs are Semitic.

Excellent, guys!👍💙💙💙🥰✌

My answer to Slavic? Why don't you make me? *flips Slavic the bird*

Keep your sanity to yourself. Insane people don't want to hear about it!

@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

6 ай бұрын

Sanity is edible, but it tastes weird.

Secular humanism already answers all those questions about morality and all without the need of a subjective god.

Did I miss the part where the caller said "keep your atheism to yourself"?

Morals are based on the thriving of one's species. It is natural selection. Not subjective.

@SleepyMatt-zzz

6 ай бұрын

Place a group of ten people and ask them about their morals, most likely they will not come to a consensus on everything. Why? Because morality is subjective. It's why we see humans exhibiting differing moral values across the world.

@ecocentrichomestead6783

6 ай бұрын

@@SleepyMatt-zzz There's variation in all traits, but an optimum for every trait. That is why, while our morals are different, they are clumped around certain values. The subjectivity comes from the environmental and population conditions at the time they evolved. Religion prevents the evolution of morals based on environmental conditions.

He needs to say WHAT BIBLE is the right one!

This is one reason why I'm antinatalist. One being's thriving is another being's suffering.

Slavic sounds painfully confused.

Nice video :3

18:05 "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction" If you poke someone, the equal and opposite reaction is them getting poked. It's a bold misinterpretation of this law of physics to say this has anything whatsoever to do with cosmic karma or whatever.

Freedom for me but NOT for thee. Such hypocritical, indoctrinating unable to critically think zealots!

What is "natural law"?

@wasssyup

6 ай бұрын

Death and survival of the fittest maybe?

6 ай бұрын

nazis who try to hide they are nazis promote it a lot.

There can never be objective morality because it's always a CHOICE! If you decide that you doin't want to cause harm, that's still subjective, thus no objective morality. Just because some people want objective morality to exist, that doesn't mean that it does. Kelley is also wrong, since you still have to go with your own personal interpretation of actions. That makes it all subjective. No matter what subjective standard you start with, there is nothing demonstrably objective that you can draw from it since you are the one that is deciding what you are going to do and what you think causes "harm". There is nothing objective there at all.

@Leith_Crowther

6 ай бұрын

Yeeeeeh, “harm” is a bit too subjective of a standard because the word is a little bit liquid in English. “Wellbeing” or “happiness” are better because everyone who speaks English well knows exactly what those words mean. Although that does make me think, what about other languages where the best translation of those words might also be a little too ambiguous? Are they supposed to use a totally different standard? That strikes me as a bit ridiculous.

@BitchspotBlog

6 ай бұрын

@@Leith_Crowther Except neither of those takes into account what the individual might want. What makes one person happy might make another person miserable. Therefore, it is always a choice because every individual is different.

@ossiedunstan4419

6 ай бұрын

Yet every middle eastern religion promotes uses gods morality to genocide any people who wont convert.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion. No worship. No specific beliefs.

Why does the title seem to quote him saying that when I never actually heard him say that? He was remarkably calm and civil, even though he was wrong. Using quotes implies he said that, and does a disservice to him as a caller whom the host praised and calls into questions the integrity of this channel. It is unnecessary, and appears to have only been written that way for Clickbait, which again undermines the integrity of this chin

Alt title: Utilitarian Ethics Deconstructed As Relates to Religion

Yeah, keep your theism to yourself.

Religion is the cause of all suffering !

Can i request that people on these ACA shows actually do some research instead of spraying the fan with your own faeces.

Thank you jimmy jr , i was just shit on bye a friend of 8-10 years, all gone in instant, It happened when my friend has christian around her, so 10 odd years of friendship gone because of christians. Buddhism is not a religion, If you pray to Buddha your not a Buddhist

@reefhog

6 ай бұрын

Buddhism is a non theistic religion. *you’re

Buddha actually died a slow painful death from the ignorance he showed towards his own life.