"Can I give credit?" "Nope. Get outta here." lmaoo

Jordan is the blueprint!

@nitrologly

6 жыл бұрын

CJ With the W LeBron is the upgrade.

@mefilmmaking

6 жыл бұрын

CJ With the W for KOBE

@llecrac2

6 жыл бұрын

nitrologly As long as “upgrade” is not used in a disrespectful way. LBJ and everyone else is simply…Building on MJs foundation.

@llecrac2

6 жыл бұрын

Filmmaker J agreed. Kobe is the closest so far to MJs style and killer instinct.

@aboundedchimeratv

6 жыл бұрын

Jordan is the blueprint Jordan is the GOAT!!!

This is the best segment 🤣 settling arguments the right way

I had so much anxiety watching the blocks😂😂

LeBron is a great player but Jordan is a legend! I’m a Pistons fan, so that’s saying a lot. 😂😂😂

@IcyNation-sy2fy

6 жыл бұрын

RipLady People keep saying "he kept losing to the Pistons and Celtics" like they were trash, those were some dog ass teams, that also went on to the finals. Its not like they got eliminated after beating the bulls a round later. He lost, but you gotta lose to succeed. Lebron fans talk like lebron is so perfect, talk about his finals appearances, but don't wanna bring up rings at the same time like wtf? Cause 100% of the time they'll lose that debate 😂😂😂😂

@homs7351

6 жыл бұрын

Can u tell Isiah Thomas that for me 😂

@RipLady

6 жыл бұрын

HOMS ! 😂😂😂 I don’t think he’ll listen to me.

@brandonjohnson3797

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao aye a Pistons fan, same here brotha!!!😊✊💀

Whew! I thought for sure Tony was gonna lose this one

@donaldmcknight22

6 жыл бұрын

Roddy Rod Right I was the same way

@itscrazyson

6 жыл бұрын

Legit I didn't want tony losing this one 😂

@harrykeobounhom8356

6 жыл бұрын

no lie i was scared on that..... tony coming in the clutch, much like jordan

@belizaire28

6 жыл бұрын

IKR... This one had me on the edge of my seat. Literally. Felt like I was watching the finals.

@kweli05

4 жыл бұрын

If Tony lost this, I would unfollow. My 7-year old son can explain why Jordan is the man. It's damn near a fact.

Let me educate you young LeBron fans. Now those of you that say LeBron is a better all around player I want you to look at these stats and this will prove he is not more of an all around player than Jordan. Career Totals Points Jordan: 30.1 Points Lebron: 27.2 Assists Jordan: 5.3 Assists Lebron: 7.2 Rebounds Jordan: 6.2 Rebounds Lebron: 7.4 Steals Jordan: 2.3 Steals Lebron: 1.6 Blocks Jordan: 0.8 Blocks Lebron: 0.8 Turnovers per game Jordan: 2.8 Turnovers Per game Lebron: 3.5 So in this case its Jordan 3 Lebron 2. Now lets go to the most all around stat there is in which is Player efficiency rating. Per Jordan: 27.91 Per Lebron: 27.69 So now it is Jordan 4 Lebron 2. Now let’s look at the defensive side of the ball. While many of you say that Lebron is a great team defender because of his blocks Jordan still averages the same amount of blocks Lebron has. Lebron is a terrible on ball defender and you can tell just by watching his games his whole career. But I will give proof Jordan was a better defender. Jordan won the defensive player of the year in 1988. Mean while Lebron never won a defensive player of the year. MJ would lock stars up and shut them down playing on ball defense while lebron would cherry pick a lot of his rebounds and his man would score on him plenty of times. Michael Jordan also has more All NBSA defensive teams. So again if we are going all around it is Jordan 5 Lebron 2. And people I just want to point out Jordan can even pass the ball like Lebron did believe it or not. In the 1991 finals Jordan had to play the point a lot. He averaged 11.4 assists per game on the biggest stage in which lebron I am sure has never averaged that many assists per game on the biggest stage. Jordan could pass the ball if he wanted his game to revolve like that but he wanted to take the game in his own hands most of the time because he was clutch. Meanwhile Lebron, needs his teammates at the end of games to step up for him. Anything Lebron can do Jordan can do AND better. So when we look at all around game I must say it is close but that is the only argument Lebron fans have. I would give Jordan even the edge on that. But I will be nice let’s say they are even. Now this will put the nail in the coffin as to why Jordan is better than Lebron. Now NBA finals wins Jordan: 6 for 6 -never allowed a game 7 Lebron: 3 and 6 -has had multiple melt downs in the finals. Michael Jordan was a way more mentally tough player than Lebron James he always stepped up his game when the game got bigger, meanwhile, Lebron relies on teammates too much in the fourth quarter. Just like the Mavericks finals game. Lebron has made the finals many times because the eastern conference is so weak and the times where he actually has competition he is 3 and 5 which is pretty pathetic if he wants to be called the GOAT. I realize this year he has stepped up his game in the post season. He as in LBJ hit two game winning buzzer beaters which was very good but unlike Jordan, Lebron had to take years to develop the clutch gene meanwhile MJ had it his whole career, MJ always wanted it when it counted most and Lebron has had too many times in his career 2005-2015 where he shies away from the ball in the clutch when MJ never had to do that. Now let’s go season MVP’s Jordan: 5 Lebron: 4 Lebron still has a career to go but most likely will not win another MVP with Harden winning this year and with LBJ getting much older. Jordan played in a much tougher era where there was hand checking. For those of you that say handchecking did not make a difference I want you to go outside and have someone guard you. I want for the first play someone to hand check you and then the second play for someone to guard you straight up without even touching you. Trust me you will see a major difference in difficulty. Now Lebron has like 30 pounds on Jordan but player that have played against both say that Jordan was just as strong as Lebron going to the whole. Also Jordan even got up higher than Lebron did. Lebron is 2 inches taller BUT Jordan’s vertical is 5 inches higher. People it is not even close as to who is better Lebron or Jordan. As you can see with proof Lebron was not a better all around player and Jordan was better than Lebron in the big games. When you compare who is the better player at their best you look at the per game averages and not career total points, assists, or steals. Lebron will have more career total points than MJ because he will play like 7 more years most likely so that is like saying you scored more than someone in a season when you played 20 games and the other person played 13 games lol. You always look at the points per game because that is the average and consistency of the player. Karl Malone has the second most points of all time but we all know MJ was a better scorer than Malone comparing the ppg and clearly watching both of their careers. If anyone says ohhh Lebron played in a tougher era I can say MJ played in a tougher era with hand checking but we all never can prove factually which era was tougher that is opinions but the stats and accomplishments I put up are facts that you must look at that clearly shows MJ dominated his era more than LBJ did. Don’t mind the grammer I rushed through this shit lol.

@jaybird8192

6 жыл бұрын

CJ Dalton Dam, you just swept lebron, after GS just swept him!! LOL! Way to educate all the Bronsexuals!

@olayinka_ekky

6 жыл бұрын

CJ Dalton nice one bro. Good job exposing Leexcuse

@Jcasify1250

6 жыл бұрын

Lebron is the better basketball player. Jordan has the rings. But lebron has playoff stats. If you asked me who I wanted to start a franchise with. Out of any nba player to live. I’d say lebron first. He can play any position in the game. And play it well. He can shoot and drive. And him complaining about fouls isn’t because he’s soft. It’s because the league has these soft rules, and when lebron knows there is a foul and it doesn’t get called, it’s annoying.

@johnkreese1343

6 жыл бұрын

You say Lebron has the stats when I literally proved MJ put up better stats per game. You need to look at the per game stats not the career total stats because Lebron will play 7 more seasons than MJ when it is all said and done. That is like saying someone scored more points than me when I played 13 games and they played 20 games. MJ dominated his era more than LBJ dominated his which is a pure fact. Lebron can play 1 through 5 because the game changed from now to the 90s. There were much stronger big men in the 90s in which todays game the big men play like little men and are spot up shooters. You say Lebron put up better playoff stats right? Well let me prove that wrong with the most all around stat in player efficiency rating. PER in Playoffs Lebron 28.27 Jordan 28.60 The only thing LBJ has on MJ is 2 more assists and one more rebound. And if you really watch Lebron play he cherry picks rebounds while MJ would lock down his men on defense. Would you rather have somebody sag off his man and cherry pick rebounds or Lock up his defender and be a 11 or 13x all defensive first team? Mj put up better stats in points, steals, less turnovers, more defensive player of the years, and will wined up with more MVP's. I literaly proved MJ is the better player and you are just a delusional LBJ fan, that gets caught up in the moment if you cant see otherwise, most lebron fans even say MJ is the better player cause they have to be real with themselves. By the end of lebrons career he should be top 5 of all time, MJ does not only have LBJ in rings but stats too.

@johnkreese1343

6 жыл бұрын

It really is not even close son go back and watch some MJ tape if he played today he would have like 45 a game.

All u had to say that Lebron been in the league longer than Jordan, of course, he is going to pass him. What is impressive is that Jordan accomplished all the thing he did in Less time than most Basketball Players

I think it's hilarious when people keep saying that Michael Jordan couldn't get past the Pistons, Celtics or Lakers without Pippen, Grant or Phil Jackson as their coach. Don't these morons watch basketball? Here's a newsflash... Jordan DID have that crew with him when they were getting kicked out of the playoffs every year. Pippen and Grant joined the Bulls in '87 and Phil Jackson took over as head coach that year as well. Meanwhile, they still got spanked by the pistons in '87, '88 and '89. The REAL reason why the Bulls were eventually able to get by the Pistons in 1990 is because they finally started to come together as a team and trust the system they were playing under. The "Bad Boy" Pistons were a super team with 3 HOF players and a HOF coach. There's no way one player was going to get past them and yet, Michael Jordan and company SWEPT them in 1990 with no All-stars on that team except for MJ! Pippen was not an All-star yet. If anything is impressive, it's that. Now you have the real truth.

@fordatimebeing

6 жыл бұрын

Carolina Reaper Phil Jackson took over in the 1989 1990 season. That season they took the pistons to 7 games and Scottie didn’t play because of a migraine from all of those ass whipping Detroit put on him and Jordan still single handily carried the bulls to a close game.

@brandonjohnson3797

5 жыл бұрын

The reason why the Bulls starting winning is because the Pistons were of course aging while the Bulls were still on the come up. The Pistons were beating them at first cuz that was the bad boys peak years. You gotta be smarter than that.

I hope everybody watching this buys or bought that... Tony Baker: Scaredy Cat

@southeastdaygo6193

6 жыл бұрын

Jeff B felt every piece of it

@LivinMyJeffLife

6 жыл бұрын

Southeast Daygo619 at 80 minutes it's a pretty robust special. I see what he's doin out here. Lavish. I do miss his co-host...water though.

@southeastdaygo6193

6 жыл бұрын

Jeff B I was just thinking about that podcast... Yeah I agree this guy's comedic genius is rare..

@LivinMyJeffLife

6 жыл бұрын

Southeast Daygo619 Not many people you can just listen to talk & laugh & be entertained. I think of Bernie Mac immediately...Another son of Chicago.

@drewood4747

6 жыл бұрын

I did watched it so many times. But it’s GOAT JAMES 🐐

JORDAN IS STILL BETTER #GOAT

Jordan is better hands down!!

"Can I get credit?" "Nope. Get outta here!" -- Classic Tony lol.

Wow!!! This has got to be THE BEST KZread CHANNEL EVER!!!

JORDAN!!! Especially after LeBron QUIT in game four of the finals. So this debate between Jordan and LeBron is officially OVER!!!!

Awesome video tony!

😂😂 I'm watchin the clock count down during ur last move then see his struggle last move and I was like oh no hes gonna lose!😂👏🏻 love these Tony!

I see what y'all doing 😂😂 this was great 👏🏿👏🏾👏🏿👏🏾👏🏿👏🏾👏🏿👏🏾

O.k. I am a few rounds in.. and I have got to say this is the most entertaining version of a debate ever. Great work.. I'll be watching.

This was great all around, awesome show and concept to try n prove one’s own opinion.

Amazing video. Loved it

jordan won his first title against the Showtime Lakers

This segment of the channel is rapidly becoming my favorite of them all (I still give the nod to the movie/television reviews)

You should have mentioned the finesse...the dunk contest and the fact that he had to actually compete with the best in the league.. instead of them being on his team!

You should have a link to your comedy special in the description of your videos so people can be aware. Also thanks for holding it down for Jordan. You're a tough opponent in this game.

Very on point and funny...good job to both...

Not even a question Jordan

@justinpettit3432

6 жыл бұрын

Shanonkla *Lebron

@justinpettit3432

6 жыл бұрын

Shanonkla I corrected it for you.

good shit! Tony

This was great!

Lol yo this is a dope concept series!

LeBron only got high stats because he's in the NBA longer than Jordan

@kristion9774

5 жыл бұрын

FRED FLINSTONE nba changed the rules to increase scoring is also why. “Adam Silver -- NBA rule changes boosting offense as intended Adam Silver upbeat on NBA's scoring surge, cites rule changes Commissioner Adam Silver said Thursday he believes the league's new rules that have led to more offense are going well. "We had a call with our competition committee last week, which is made up of coaches, GMs, owners, players, officials to discuss just that," Silver said at a news conference to announce Cleveland as the 2022 All-Star Game host. "And the consensus, or the strong feeling from the group was that the rule changes were happening as we intended." The league-wide scoring average of 112.3 would be the highest in a season since 1970-71, when it was 112.4. Of the 30 NBA teams, 19 are averaging 110 points this season; six did so last season. Silver said the intent of the new rules was to cut down on defensive players clutching and grabbing.” www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25149345/adam-silver-nba-rule-changes-boosting-offense-intended%3fplatform=amp

@karkarrot5786

4 жыл бұрын

Literally only 1 year at the time of this video

Awesome video

This is the funniest segment I've seen in a minute! LMAO

everyone forgot about kobe huh. Jordan will b the best till mankind doesnt exist the media trying so hard to make a new Jordan

This was a great Tony more of these and ofcourse your right MJ all day

Where do you buy the Scaredy Cat?

Jordan all day no question, forget bron bron

Tony, thank you for mentioning Lebron's Oscar nominee winning flopping. And also thank you for mentioning how the Eastern conference is soft. Because it is. And I am from NY.

Lebron james is a crybaby, he changes teams every two yrs, and has been to eight finals and has only won three michael jordan is 6/6 and is the M.V.P. in all of em michael jordan is the greatest ever period.

@_codycameron

6 жыл бұрын

Michael jordan also has not one but TWO three-peats

@mchan2141

5 жыл бұрын

Truth

@zackhayes1268

4 жыл бұрын

Cody Cameron not to mention he has an argument for the fact that the 2 Finals he stepped away for........ would’ve been won as well making it 8

@benpickard3203

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Jordan didn't quit on his team during his prime.

Tony knew about the Last Dance before the Last Dance!!

Weak eastern conference Overrated 8 finals appearance's Inflated stats Lebron apologist need to hear this "Stats don't lie but they don't tell the full story" ESPN and FOX Sports are biased towards lebron. Jordan tried on defense playing on both sides of the courts, lebron gets tired (EXCUSE) isn't going to work. He made the team his way. I would like the lebron blind witness to answer this question. What player would you say be greater? (scenario) Player A averages 32 6 6 4-0 record in finals Better intangibles, no excuses, CAN CLOSE A GAME HAVING A 6 POINT LEAD 3 MINS LEFT Player B 29 7 7 2-7 record in finals Has more triple doubles "NEVER HIS FAULT FOR LOSING IN THE FINALS " AS LONG AS HE HAS GOOD STATS ITS THE TEAMS FAULT Who stopped lebron? JASON TERRY KAWHI LEONARD ANDRE IGUODALA PAUL PIERCE DWIGHT HOWARD

7:03 Tony is so focused like he doesn't want to lose at all. LOL

Its still an honor for LeBron to be even compared to Jordan. I give him credit for what he has done in his own time which was still transcendent . He is the greatest of his Era and that's no debate.

@_codycameron

6 жыл бұрын

nationofmillions tru

TB’s facial expressions 😂😂😂😂!! I’da lost that game

jordan made his teammates better >>pippen. They were good during his temporary absence. Lebron made his teammates worse. Wade, kevin love, kyrie, bosh were all franchise players before teamming up with lebron.

🙌🏾

Tony baker do Tekken vs Street fighter!

🔥🔥🔥

Jordan 9× all defensive team, oh and the east was way tougher than it is today. And LeBron is more about stats than winning.. sorry Bron, I'll take the man with the heart of a champion

This guy against Tony needs to keep making drones.

That's the longest Jenga game I've seen in my life.

tony is from chicago so i'm guessin...

@TheSpook313

6 жыл бұрын

Baldino Salvador Tony is actually from Michigan, he was raised in the Chi, but still...

@Baldinosalvador

6 жыл бұрын

+TheSpook313 I never kneeew

@kayd7023

6 жыл бұрын

Baldino Salvador LMFAO

@stevieb274

6 жыл бұрын

TheSpook313 but I think he went to school in New Mexico

@OGSaintLoc

6 жыл бұрын

Hes from brooklyn

What people have to remember basket ball has changed how it is played over the years these two people have played

Is Brennon the boy from the Bernie Mac show?

His AIRNESS

Lets go tony

One of the few times I agree with Tony Baker

Tony you forgot to tell him to "feel every piece" of that L.

*THE RUNDOWN* *Jordan* - 6/6 in finals *James* - 3/9 in finals *James* - down 1 in the last few seconds,would be too passive. *Jordan* - down 1 in the last few seconds,he'll take,and make the shot *Jordan* - was getting buckets when handchecking was allowed (hard to do) *James* - complains if the defender even breathes on him *Jordan* - Never lost,or been swept *James* - lost 6 times,and swept twice (2007,2018) Its a no brainer who's better

@junyah1

6 жыл бұрын

FACTS

@alexlewis5068

6 жыл бұрын

LeBron has more game winners. LeBron is bigger and gets fewer calls cause of it so he has to sell it more.Jordan got swept in the first and second rounds alot of years. And when Phil Jackson left he retired cause he knew nothing was gonna happen for him after that.

@SBzKillFrenzy

6 жыл бұрын

Alex Lewis its a difference in selling foul calls..and complaining.. and as far as jordan getting swept...im speaking specifically finals. Didnt think I would have to specify that lol I thought I made it obvious

@alexlewis5068

6 жыл бұрын

2m0rrow is not promised you didn't need to specify. Just felt like adding a piece you missed. Jordan lost in the first round. LeBron lost in the final. It's better to be out in the finals than out in the first round

@SBzKillFrenzy

6 жыл бұрын

Alex Lewis lol Its not really infornation I missed. I just didnt speak on it...and honestly you can believe that shit if you want...but the further you get in the playoffs,the harder it is when you go home...losing..and not just losing but getting swept....in the finals. Is a stinger

"Oh we doing build now?" 😂

Tony got that Kevin Garnett half hoody

This aged perfectly!

God damn, it took Tony an hour to pull that damn block.

Yesssiiirrr MJ is the G.O.A.T!!! Tony I have a confession to make. Your videos are HILARIOUS & I follow you on FB, but the only way I was subscribing to your KZread channel was based on your answer lol! Soon as you said, "MJ" I clicked SUBSCRIBE!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 Don't judge me lol😂😝😉😊😛

Two things! 1). What if each of them swapped shoes. LeBron played with Jordan’s Bulls and Jordan Played for Lebrons Teams during all of his finals appearances? Can LeBeron replicate Jordan’s 6? Can Jordan take Home more titles? 2) 1v1 in their Primes. Who comes out on top?

MJ = 🐐

Jordan was a MUCH BETTER DEFENDER. Why is it that people pretend like that doesn't matter? It only doesn't matter when LeBron is being argued against Jordan, but any other time, it matters. Nah. Jordan was the better defender and scorer. That leaves rebounds and assists. LeBron handles the ball more. LeBron is bigger than Jordan. Two physical advantages that was out of Jordan's control. And when Jordan was tasked to play point, he averaged a triple double.

Check this great video of MJ vs LBJ - kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2d4qdexiNnTado.html

Dat was good

the real GOAT vs the man claiming to be the goat? and got swept 2 times in the finals...damn people comparing MJ to LEBROOMS!

Why this one had me on the edge??

Jordan retired and came back and still won. He could've went to the finals 8 times and potentially won 8 times. Lebron didnt go to the playoffs with the lakers and of course he loss to the mavs who had 1 superstar and got blown out by historical amount in the finals to the spurs on the championship team heat

No comparison. Jordan is legend. Now question is Jordan or Magic?

Jordans all stars: Pippen, BJ Armstrong (made it the year Jordan was playing baseball) Lebron: Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love

i could care less who's better. i liked the video cause you keep making the disclaimer about your braces.

Jordan

First of all MJ Made Pippen better and the reason why the team was able to make it far was because unlike Lebron Jordan actually made his teammate better! Also Scottie Pippen was a scrub when he first came to the NBA, He barely averaged 8 Points, 4 rebounds and 4 Assist his 1st and 2nd Year in the NBA. The only reason Scottie became as good as he got was because in practice he had to defend agaisnt MJ! and MJ played every game like it was his last even practice games! So Scottie had no choise but to get better and become a defensive Threat, He had to defend MJ! MJ Make Scubs like Scottie in to one of the Top 50 greatest players, Lebron Make Super Stars and All Stars into Garbage Players!

If I ever meet you we playing this game

This was str8 up entertainment.

Tony! How you give a pass to this guy, Micheal played the Lakers in his first NBA Finals!

I dig both arguments. I’m going with MJ though. Jordan did actually play the Lakers, too.

Bron almost has as many final losses as MJ has rings

@sidjones16

6 жыл бұрын

Dre Jones not almost 07', 11', 14' 15' 17' 18'

The better question is Lebron vs Kobe

"but he not gunna steal it tho" lmaooooo

Bring back the 2 min drill

"And we had Pippen" 👏🏿👏🏿 Tell these folks to put some respect on Pip's name Tony 👊🏿 And Phil Jackson isn't special at all, he just inherited teams with great talent 💁🏿‍♂️

"Lebron's an only child, and it shows." I felt every piece of that statement. Ouch.

I don’t care what the argument is, Tony needs to stay off the table when it’s not his turn.

TONY won the Jinga portion???? You are a Jinga Jedi Master!!!!

Hey I watch dronr.

Shit was intense

I am.

Tony Baker!!! Jordan is the GOAT!!! Tell that other cat to go "reflect" and "be better dawg".

what squad on the bulls look at that roster for his first 3 rings and come back and talk to me look at LeBrons super team at the time in Miami and lost to the mavs cause at that time that was considered a super team he played with 15 all stars in his career go look at how many mj played with hold that down buddy

My boy said "he the Meryl Streep of the NBA"

You can't compare players from different era's b/c its a different game

The 1 time I actually disagreed w/Tony’s argument... & just like the infamous ‘Jordan rules’, Tony shaking that table is his WAY OF DECEITFULLY WINNING. 😏 we 👀 u, Tony

#TeamJordan!!!!

yes Wade watched Ray from the sideline. Jordan needed a team to make him

Leads Jordan in all offensive playoff statistics except championships and finals mvp’s.

@TonyBakercomedy

6 жыл бұрын

Where that defense tho?

@grumpee8432

6 жыл бұрын

Tony Baker Comedy you’re right. And Jordan’s defense was A-1!