I love how T-Mac is completely calm while Max and Stephen A. are freaking out that an NBA star chose LeBron over Jordan in something

@unspokenrespect

4 жыл бұрын

lol hes just a laid back guy.

@Ali-vk6jm

4 жыл бұрын

BEAST MODE06 His point is true though The only person lebron had in his first championship run was Zydrunas Ilgauskas Thats a fair point because he wasn’t near the level of scottie pippen

@suppaman12

4 жыл бұрын

But tmac has Jordan as the goat. As the best ever. As the pillar of the modern nba.

@NwoFresh

4 жыл бұрын

Naruto Uzumaki it’s not a fair point because they had no one to go through in the east that year!

@GG-gd3uf

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ali-vk6jm U meant first finals because they lost that year to the Spurns 4-0

Starting my team with Kwame Brown

@detroitharris

6 жыл бұрын

Oh how blasphemous...KaaaWwaaaaameee Brown!? You have got to be kidding me! *SAS voice*

@TenThumbsProductions

6 жыл бұрын

I'll take Sam Bowie, see you you in the finals!

@godpigeon2784

6 жыл бұрын

Big Boss “ you came in the league without a jumpshot, without the ability to rebound to do nice footwork and is years later and you’re still that dude” -Stephen a Smith 2007

@donice4835

6 жыл бұрын

The goat

@RaiNdiGGs

6 жыл бұрын

That's not fair

I'm so tired of this LeBron vs Jordan debate on every show a minimum of 3 times a week...

@soothingmoments2139

5 жыл бұрын

i'm tired of people getting tired of lebron vs jordan debate .but will still click on the video and watch and comment how tired they are about the topic...if you are tired...dont watch and tell the whole world you are tired of watching jordan lebron debate...and YOU have to tell the whole world about how tired you are...are you baiting for a like...there i will you one.

@TheAliisawesome

5 жыл бұрын

Shahmir ik we all know its MJ. Lets move on.

@GOATSLAYER95

5 жыл бұрын

@Ethan Petro same here bro they need to let this debate go like bruh come on it's getting on my nerves, MJ is the goat period

@Sam-oe4dt

5 жыл бұрын

lil nope

@aldex2303

4 жыл бұрын

They make money out of LBJ & MJ that is why they never stop comparing them 2 great players that has very different skills & generation. It is incomparable

I’m confused how was t Mac going to defend his words when all they do is talk over him 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

why is SAS telling a former NBA Star/Hall of Famer how he should feel like SAS ever played a NBA game.

@sergio.ea.gaytan

6 жыл бұрын

T mac overrated

@itskoota

6 жыл бұрын

EA cookeditup because stephen a thinks only he knowns anything and everything about basketball and uses shouting loudly to get every point across. SMH

@anthonycummings9174

6 жыл бұрын

EA cookeditup another example of old people not realizing how great LeBron is they won't they won't figure it out until he retires

@cimi93x

6 жыл бұрын

cause he a loudmouthed 12 year old child

@fresh2354

6 жыл бұрын

i definitely agree! i say this all the time

I dont like Mac as an analyst. But Stephen A was unnecessarily aggressive. He was acting like Tracy said something about his mother 😂

@LaMiGrAFrAnK

6 жыл бұрын

Sandernista they just being black.. culture difference. Nothing to see here

@letmegetughh4722

6 жыл бұрын

Sandernista that's how a lot of Jordan fanboys are they get personally offended

@Zero-wy2gx

6 жыл бұрын

LetMeGet Ughh A lot of the time they forget that we're just talking sports it really isn't that deep to get all mad about that.

@justinramirez3795

6 жыл бұрын

felt like his aggression was deserved, tmac was terrible here

@soun.slayerTTV

6 жыл бұрын

Because he want MJ to be his daddy

I don't understand how they miss the whole point of T-Mac's original statement. He said that him being a scorer, him wanting the ball as much as MJ, it would be easier for him to team up with a guy that's not like him. And I m sure that if MJ had to pick between a guy that's not like him for example Pippen and T-Mac, he would choose Pippen every single time. Great teams are not built by putting 5 people with the same characteristics. And T-Mac knows that

Stephen A Smith trying to tell him how he played 😂💀

@tytytyme33

4 жыл бұрын

Like a talker would

Where does this come from, this idea that Mike doesn't care or doesn't try to make his team better? He WILL get on his teammates for not performing. He DID put in the work to be an example to his team "this is what I am willing to do to win, what about you?" Where is this coming from? This idea that MJ didn't care about teammates and didn't care how good or bad they did as long as he got 30 or 40 points? MJ was about winning, and he's not an idiot, he knows he can't just drop 40 and win, he learned that in his earlier years when facing the pistons and celtics.

@donjohnswaggert

6 жыл бұрын

REAL spill!!!

@teedee1683

6 жыл бұрын

I already know u don't know what u were talking about cus MJ didn't face a celtics team in the playoffs

@Millicente

6 жыл бұрын

SixBrosGamingHD I already know you didn't read properly. Where did I say playoffs in any of that wall of text I call my comment?

@donjohnswaggert

6 жыл бұрын

SixBrosGamingHD I don't understand MJ face the Celtics in the playoffs and held the record for most points scored in a playoff game on Boston Garden floor so what is this about

Why would I wanna build my team around Lebron? He just gonna leave 😂

@ultimatechrisso6592

6 жыл бұрын

he's a lazy bum no heart

@justdatgoonuneed5650

6 жыл бұрын

LAKER NATION that comment is gold pure gold🤣

@Kstewart14

6 жыл бұрын

Kobe wanted out never forget

@ralphie8852

6 жыл бұрын

Never forget that he DIDNT THO. He stayed and dropped 60 in his last game and then retired a laker

@Kstewart14

6 жыл бұрын

Actinike he didn't want out is false don't matter if he left or not Jordan never wanted to leave he played baseball bc he was doing a tribute to his father n stunk it up n came back so like I said never forget Kobe wanted out too

I really wish they brought up Jordan when he was asked to be a point guard. He had a triple double in 10 of 11 games

@BiGGSODMG

5 жыл бұрын

Sports 23/7 hell nall

@SMohinder

5 жыл бұрын

Did he really?

@erikmerced6329

5 жыл бұрын

@@SMohinder yeah he did. LeBron has the ball in his hands so much he could be a point guard. MJ was just a force. Unstoppable

@Saxandfifths

5 жыл бұрын

@@SMohinder No this really happened.... It was either his first or second year I think. Look up "Michael Jordan The Puppeteer" on youtube. Dude was an all-time passer who just ended up with a teammate who could play point forward. It's like Steph. He's a great passer, but the system he plays in will never let him show that off like he would if he was ball-dominant.

@SMohinder

5 жыл бұрын

@@Saxandfifths Damn. He is the goat without a doubt.

I’ve watched both Jordan and Lebron play from their very first year. To say that Lebron is a great player is an understatement but to suggest that he’s on the level of Jordan is absurd. Watching MJ dominate games is something you had to see in order to believe. That pixilated KZread doesn’t do him justice. I don’t think people realize the impact of HD and 4K at various camera angles play into how great a player appears. No doubt that MJ would average 40+ a game by today’s rules. And that’s not a stretch given that he had a season in which he averaged 37pts/game and 35/game. Just let that sink in for a second. 37 points a game while also being a first team lockdown defender.

@cjarce

5 жыл бұрын

Jordan was from another planet, and that's it. From 1985-1993 just unbeatable.

@cubbdacrossfacecrippler

5 жыл бұрын

I saw MJ play too. He did a load of damage. My problem isn't with him or LeBron. The thing that gives LeBron the edge to me is the caliber of the teams he's faced in the finals. All of those teams had at least three Hofers on them. The opponents Jordan faced only had one or two. Utah having the most. Jordan was every bit as good as I said he was. His opponents is the difference between him and LeBron.

@mihajlomilisavljevic3438

5 жыл бұрын

The fact is LeBron would've average 40+ if he wanted to in his prime.

@cubbdacrossfacecrippler

5 жыл бұрын

Put each player in each other's era and they would still be the best player. They like to say that the game was much more physical back then but think about this. If MJ was 6'6 around 220 lbs and was a slasher what would LeBron be as a 6'8" 250 slasher with a Jump Shot.

@mihajlomilisavljevic3438

5 жыл бұрын

@nabil chowdhury So you're saying that centers were not physical because they aren't fast, explosive, couldn't shoot and weren't quick?

Damn. You would think T-MAC molested a amputee the way how Steven A is acting. Why is it so much of a crime to prefer Lebron over Jordan. You ask a question let the man give his own answer.

*T Mac got buried alive!*

@Danny-sg4xp

6 жыл бұрын

YourTechGuide why? Because sas was screaming and didnt let tmac talk?

@deanlowry6945

6 жыл бұрын

YourTechGuide Stephen A Smith yelling and screaming and won't let Tracy Mcgrady talk Of course 😂

@roberttorres4116

6 жыл бұрын

he sure did lol

@isboredandonline

6 жыл бұрын

If you think that you already decided who you thought was right before it started

@7popqpop4

6 жыл бұрын

Yeap he did stupid coment by tmac

Lets not forget that Michael Jordan averaged 31 points and 11 assists in the 1991 finals and out point guarded the goat pg Magic Johnson.

@lcasanova1202

6 жыл бұрын

Brianaxel44 Facts

@whoneeditigotit7359

6 жыл бұрын

Brianaxel44 He had HIV

@g2bearded862

6 жыл бұрын

Plus they I had one of the top 5 defenses in the league at that time. They always throw in that he beat old teams. The teams Jordan beat were at least top 7 in defense at least when he went into the playoffs.

@nataliegayle5160

6 жыл бұрын

Brianaxel44 magic was old

@whoneeditigotit7359

6 жыл бұрын

natalie gayle and was infected

Did Dirk and Jason Terry build a super team to beat LeBron ?

@Yungmaize

5 жыл бұрын

They built a smart team , that's why they won .

@shaynecox853

5 жыл бұрын

Flashyfinancier Good points sir. My how they forget

@cubbdacrossfacecrippler

4 жыл бұрын

They already had a superteam. Dirk was playing with 3 other All Stars on that team. People don't like to acknowledge that. Dirk Hall of famer,. Jason Kidd HOF,. Shawn Merrian All Star, Caron Butler All Star, with a good bench.

@erikmerced6329

4 жыл бұрын

@@cubbdacrossfacecrippler you are a moron. LeBron got outplayed by a bench player in that series and you really try to push that false narrative? Dirk was the only star with an old Jason Terry and Jason Kidd. LBJ had D Wade and Bosh. How TF did he lose bruh? Jordon over LeBron any day of the week, month, year forever

@softwarefoodiee

4 жыл бұрын

@@cubbdacrossfacecrippler Yup I would really take Jordon over Lbj. But I would never take Kobe over lebron. Lebron is better than kobe.

I'm starting my team with TMac

@hart7668

6 жыл бұрын

Very fun team to watch, that's for sure.

@Bobo_mo_Bro

6 жыл бұрын

goodluck making it past 1st round of the playoffs 😂

@runescape89076

6 жыл бұрын

If you starting your team with Tmac you ain't getting any rings lol

@DonavanMcdabb

6 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@kamotetops1572

6 жыл бұрын

And there goes THAT one guy that plays Fantasy Basketball, after the first few months he will be inactive because of his silly drafts. 🤣🤣

This Gonna Forever Be A Debate. Just Agree To Disagree

@bakedbenji9268

6 жыл бұрын

Sicnesses23 ❤️

@naturewisdom677

6 жыл бұрын

Baked Benji nope. Jordan wins over a 5 time loser gtfoh we not celebrating losers in 2018

@Shahzebnaeemminhas

6 жыл бұрын

Fitness Transcendence oh so being 2nd is worse than being 3rd. Alright mate (y).

@chikushodiz91

6 жыл бұрын

Lol Jordan never got swept in the finals 😂😂😂😂and don’t bring up mj first few years in the league when he got swept by the Celtics twice the bulls were the 8 seed and Celtics only needed 3 wins to advance

@robj22

6 жыл бұрын

Baked Benji what tmac is saying isn’t a debate. Lebron has not and will not lead a weak supporting cast (like he has now) to a championship, so what’s the point? If Lebron was in the west as the 6th seed or whatever your not making past the 2nd rnd if that. Lebron needs more help than anybody 😂 quiet as kept

For this generation Lebron, but in comparison to Michael Jordan. I would pick Jordan, seeing Jordan perform in the 80's and 90's. He took over the game on defense and offense. He had 100+ blocks and steals 2 seasons in a row, while being the scoring leader. Plus the NBA back then was rougher/physical than it is now. But I guess the generations are changing, women becoming more masculine and men becoming more feminine.

@jacobhickman1005

5 жыл бұрын

LBJ is far better. LBJ da GOAT

@adamsamuel8593

5 жыл бұрын

+Jacob Hickman You wish. MJ was a leader especially during the second 3 peat. Jordan was just like Lebron during the second 3 peat. Lebron can't win without any other allstar. No one can. Ĺebron gets praise for carrying them to finals but you lose. It didn't make any sense what these idiots are saying. I get what Tracy saying but you still lose with Lebron. I don't want to go to the finals to lose. Lebron gives up unlike any other top player.

@mahoortebyani3623

5 жыл бұрын

The game was played differently back then, but McGrady DOES have a point, no matter what Jordan dick riders say, LeBron DID have lesser talent to work with. You can't become the next Jordan without another player with the same talent as Pippen.

@TheAliisawesome

5 жыл бұрын

Pa P Facts

@cjarce

5 жыл бұрын

LoL women becoming... jajajajaja so true also! and of course the rest of ur message ;)

What I hate about this topic is that Stephen A doesn't let anyone finish before he starts talking

T Mac’s ending argument 😂😂😂 Kd needed to join a super team to beat Lebron, but Lebron needed join a top 3 all time shooting guard in d wade and all star in Chris bosh and then ditch them when they weren’t good enough and join kyrie and Kevin Love 🤭 Kd a snake, but Lebron is a repeat offender, but shout out to ESPN for cutting the video before SAS could get to that point to show mercy to t Mac and his foolish argument

@skywalker2676

6 жыл бұрын

Locust&WildHoney Chris Bosh and D Wade were not healthy dumbass

@coolboyterrence

6 жыл бұрын

Locust&WildHoney so LeBron should stay on a declining heats team

@TheVboyfresh

6 жыл бұрын

K love wasn’t there yet dumbass and the Cavs was a lottery team

@stonecold316339

6 жыл бұрын

Locust&WildHoney: Kyrie was leading the Cavs to the lottery every yr n missing the playoffs. Bosh was a big fish in a small pond only reason why he was an All Star was cause he was in the East. He wouldn't start over Duncan or Dirk. U act like he had 06 Wade n not two bad knees Wade. Love wasn't even making the playoffs. To compare that to a 73 win team who already won it all without KD is ridiculous

@misterwillyouplaywithus6619

6 жыл бұрын

Hi T1000 Kyrie All Star Chris Bosh All Star Dwyane Wade All Star Kevin Love All Star don't try to play Down then being all stars lol

SAS fake hype is cringe asf

@alves10best

6 жыл бұрын

Jay and he thinks he knows more about tmac's game than tmac, I mean he's so fucking idiotic.

@user-qr8bl6kz9g

6 жыл бұрын

Jay YallMad. StayMad

@theYT_moderator

5 жыл бұрын

It's so hard to watch.

Lebron is amazing, but there is no way I would choose him over Jordan. Jordan was actually a solid all around player who was required by his team to be a scorer first. When they needed him to run point guard, he averaged 32pts/8rbs/8ast. Jordan accomplished more in less time, with less help. Tracy, you lost this one.

@lcasanova1202

6 жыл бұрын

CJ Chewjore FACTS

@TCOVPRODUCTION

6 жыл бұрын

CJ Chewjore also played nobody if we’re being honest. In his short lived career... there were 6 new expansion teams. With a top 50 player and one of the greatest tenacious defensive/rebounder. He played mostly bigs. Not many great guards in his time..

@wh3resmycar

6 жыл бұрын

Lebron would've averaged 15apg if his teammates weren't shooting bricks.

@jeremiahgreenwood7505

6 жыл бұрын

T C O V so why didnt anybody else dominate like jordan LOOL stop lebron out here playing teams in the east that dont even have A SUPERSTAR... derozan lowry .... tatum brown.... oladipo come on 😭😭 all the superstars besides giannis and lebron are in the WEST

@wh3resmycar

6 жыл бұрын

you fucking high? "WHY DIDN"T ANYBODY ELSE DOMINATE LIKE JORDAN?" Kareem, Magic, Bill Russell. folks. jeremiah greenwood is the perfect example when someone watched way too many nike commercials and considered it facts.

I'm taking Stockton.

Seriously why do people only judge LeBron’s from when he went to Miami? Like everything he did before that was irrelevant? Yet they bring those « irrelevant » times against him when it comes to counting his finals losses. Bring up the times Mike didn’t make it to the finals too then. Let’s keep it objective all the way

@williamalexanderalexander4073

6 жыл бұрын

so we're gonna count how many 2nd place he have instead of how many rings he had ? stupid , lechoke 2011 MAVS , no argument ! talk about lebron 2011 finals first

@emmanuelenyinwa1443

6 жыл бұрын

Jordan NEVER ONCE even got to .500 without Pippen. Yes, the "goat" had a losing record EVERY SINGLE YEAR (Five seasons) Pippen wasn't there. He played 11 playoff games without Pippen...and lost TEN. Yes, he was was 1-10 without Pippen in the playoffs, and yes, he made the playoffs with LOSING records every year (including a 30-52 record in 1986), but the "East is weak" in LeBron's era.

@omersuliman5207

6 жыл бұрын

Stunna P man I’m tired of people missing out on greatness smh.

@paradisee3293

6 жыл бұрын

BRUHH THIS FAX

@sirrocfromdalow035

6 жыл бұрын

Stunna P naw bru you missing the point when mike made it to the Finals he Won when Lebron made it too the finals!! 3-8 you can’t compare the two

Not one team Jordan beat in the finals is even close to these warriors teams

@williamalexanderalexander4073

6 жыл бұрын

how about spurs and dallas lol ? stupid

@bigman94able

6 жыл бұрын

william alexander alexander spurs had Duncan Kawhi Tony and Manu and the greatest or second greatest coach ever. Try again casual

@mrmvp2323

6 жыл бұрын

william alexander alexander dallas had 3 hofs..jason terry ,dirk and kidd

@celticsfansean

6 жыл бұрын

Gamin Messiah. Lololol revisionist history man. Lebron and the cavs couldn’t beat the rockets with Hakeem, Barkley and Drexler. Period

@ligondis

6 жыл бұрын

Gamin Messiah thats because he was that team

Here's an easy way to settle this. Yes Lebron passed Jordan in mostly all Playoff stats, but he also had to play 45 more games to do so. If u compare Lebron's stats at 179 playoff games (which is how many Jordan played), Jordan beats out Lebron in almost every category. It's pretty simple, when comparing the 2 evenly game per game, Jordan has the better numbers, more points scored, higher average, more clutch, ect. I don't even know how this is a debate. The guy who had to play more games just to brake even with the guy ahead of him is obviously not the better, a 5 year old can figure this one out.

@ryansamuels8894

6 жыл бұрын

Gross numbers... But percentages NO... It is about efficiency not about who can take the greatest percentage of the shots.. that does not prove shit

@shuffle_3gz

6 жыл бұрын

It took LeBron more games to outscore Jordan in the playoffs but Jordan still took more shots in those less games

@ritvikdutta4824

6 жыл бұрын

Mikey Teflo Is it his fault, he went further in the Playoffs?

@rasakiki

6 жыл бұрын

RYan Samuels Jordan's PER is higher than Lebron's so I do not see your point.

@zr03f0rt7

5 жыл бұрын

per game all that matters, Dirk is 6 all time in pts but not even a top 10 scorer for example

Pleaseeeee Jordan career average 30 playoffs 33 damn 33 in d playoffs career average 6 NBA titles 6 NBA final MVP defensive player of the year offensive player of the leave Mike led the league in steals . how dare u compare LBJ to MIKE

@dunnamicduo

6 жыл бұрын

So how many top 20 players did Mike play against in their primes? Go on I'll wait.

@Akirah1231

5 жыл бұрын

Right. Lebron not on MJ level.

@TheSands83

5 жыл бұрын

Larry bird...magic johnson. Shaq..hakeem..u want me to keep going? Lebron how many top 10 players he play? Maybe kobe? Jordan played prime bird prime magic prime isaih prime shaq prime hakeemthats 5 top 10 players lebron played kobe 1 top 10 player u r a fucking simpleton thats the worst thing u could hsve said..he played magic n bird in their mvps seasons god u r dumb..shaq was in his prime from 95-2004.. N prime kobe in 2002 u fucked up

@isaiahruiz5166

5 жыл бұрын

He didn’t play those people in the finals so that’s y they always won

@jayhoward337

5 жыл бұрын

Stop Think Observe Proceed who you a fan of MJ or LBJ?

Pippen was in his prime about the same Time as mike. Which is why they were able to sustain that for so many years. D. Wade started to decline in play after the second year. First year back in Cleveland his two all stars were hurt. 2nd year 73-9 team down 1-3. He won. That same team get KD to win. This year his All star and supporting cast aren’t playing any where near a level any time during his finals runs

@MichaelP-ke1tm

6 жыл бұрын

Chosen TheBarber Brush over the Mavs finals you Bronsexual

They had nothing on tmac he made all points in the first minute and they knew its pointless to argue but still pushed to lol

@lukegentry5131

5 жыл бұрын

Jan Kaufmann it was pointless bc any human with a brain would pick MJ

5:26 that's my way of arguing

@jaybrown1324

5 жыл бұрын

The Great Western Trendkill SAS had a moment

It’s not that LeBron makes others better, that’s the wrong narrative.. LeBron puts players in better and more efficient positions, TO BE better. There’s a difference. No player can make another player shoot better or make more free throws, but they can enhance their chances of doing so, as LeBron does.

@fourloko1017

6 жыл бұрын

Jay Kelz well said!

@jaykelz1528

6 жыл бұрын

alray Blasphemy.

@FlossyKP

6 жыл бұрын

Fax

@el84oro

6 жыл бұрын

and he'll jumpship again after this year. the whole thing about making others better is a myth. why? cos lebron gets high assists- assists don't always mean "making teammates better", in the words of dean smith, assists can also be selfish. if lebron made people better as the narrative suggests, he wouldn't always whine about needing help, he wouldn't always switch teams, and he wouldn't always feel the need to play as the point guard. say what you want about mj, but he never did the "we are top heavy" route. the only time he went public was when he came back from baseball and said he wanted pippen to stay, cos bulls and pip where at logger heads.....if lebron really made folks better, people wouldn't be crying everyday about he needs help

@jaykelz1528

6 жыл бұрын

el84oro I see you didn’t acknowledge my first sentiment when I said “LeBron can’t make others better, there’s no such thing.”

Title should read SAS and Max beats T Mac at a shouting contest. You brought a guy to explain his opinion but you don't actually let him explain. You could have just shown a tmac clip and proceed with adoring the sounds of your own voices. Cheaper too.

Max's argument is so flawed. First of all, Pippen wasn't just an "all-star". Pippen was a top-5 player, elite on both ends of the floor. He was the Kawhi Leonard of the 90s. Think about that! Michael Jordan's wingman FOR 10 SEASONS was a Kawhi Leonard level player. Secondly, notice the verbal gymnastics Max engages in. He started by blaming Pippen's migraines for Jordan losing game 7 to the Pistons in 1990. Then he says JORDAN swept the Pistons the next year, failing to give Pippen the credit he deserved. THEN he very cleverly says that Jordan never didn't win the title "when he played a full season" and had all-star level Pippen. That is such a weak argument. It's a shame how Jordan lovers try to dismiss his loss to the Magic by saying that he didn't play a full season. What a joke! Furthermore, Max's disingenuous argument belies the fact that Jordan didn't just have Pippen. He also had Rodman, Harper, Kukoc, Kerr, Cartwright, Armstrong, Salley, and 2 legit 7-footers in Longley/Wennington to bang with teams that had dominant centers. Michael Jordan played 5 seasons without Pippen (first 3 and last 2). In those 5 seasons without Pippen, Jordan's team was below .500 every time.

@Odeezee

6 жыл бұрын

so you completely missed everything Max said? remember Pippen became great because he played with Jordan.

@C2Poke

6 жыл бұрын

djuanOD - No. That's the bulls**t argument Jordan lovers make, but it ain't true. Pippen was a top 5 draft pick, so he was expected to be a great player. Pippen is a 1st-balot HOF'r and one of the top-50 players in the history of the NBA. Jordan doesn't deserve credit for that. If Jordan "made" Pippen great, then why the hell didn't didn't Jordan make any of his other teammates HOF'rs and top-50 all-time players?

@Odeezee

6 жыл бұрын

did you even bother to see Pippens numbers during his first 3 years with the Bulls? he became a Top 50 player *AFTER* they had already won the chip, not before like Jordan. no one claimed that Jordan could make *EVERY* teammate a HOF/All-Star (Pippen was at a level to start with that was a good base to build on) but without Jordan, Pippen would not have been great, literally just take a look at his first 3 seasons even with Jordan and the Bulls and then watch what *HE* himself said made him great; paraphrasing here but, "scrumming everyday at practice *AGAINST* Jordan". so while it may be an unpopular narrative for one such as yourself because it goes counter to what you want to be the truth, the truth is Jordan and Phil helped make Pippen the great player he is known for today. i find it fascinating that you expected Jordan to beat the Magic after not playing ball for almost 2 years and coming in at the last ~15 of 82 games of the season, now that's called mental gymnastics and such a disingenuous statement to even make given that it's a *FACT* that he did not play a full season. Max acknowledged the loss but gave context to it, so how is that a joke?

@C2Poke

6 жыл бұрын

djuanOD - Did you even bother to see that before Pippen, Jordan’s Bulls only won between 30-40 games every year and were never even competitive in their 1st rd series? The Bulls went from 40 wins the year before Pippen was drafted...to 50 wins (and a playoff series win) in Pippen’s ROOKIE year. Forget individual stats. Pippen immediately made the Bulls better. The only reason it took 3 years for Pippen’s offensive numbers to reach all-star level is because it took time for Phil Jackson to convince Jordan that his teammates were good enough to help him win titles....if he would just learn to trust them and the system. Jordan NEVER had a winning record without Pippen. He also never won a playoff series without Pippen. Pippen did both without Jordan. So GTFOH with that bulls**t argument of yours! Every teammate that ever played with Jordan “scrummed with him every day”. Yet NONE of the others ever became what Pippen did. If you’re going to give Jordan credit for Pippen, then he deserves criticism for failing to have that level of impact on any other player throughout his career. When did Jordan develop that magical ability? Because he sure as hell didn’t show that “special” ability during his first 3 seasons or his last 2 seasons (the 5 seasons he played without Pippen). Coincidentally, those 5 seasons are the only losing seasons of Jordan’s career. Those 1-on-1 battles against Jordan may have been a benefit to Pippen, but Jordan did not “make” Pippen. FOH!

@Odeezee

6 жыл бұрын

you really have an peculiar way of debating don't you? you keep presenting logical fallacies in order to push your narrative. i never said that Pippen was not a good player what i did say was that it took him years to start making it to an All-Star level, when was not even starting or playing more than ~20 mins mind you. Pippen was good and due to his personal talents (base), Phil Jackson's coaching and Michael Jordan competitiveness and demanding the best from his teammates, he was able to reach All-Star level. saying that Jordan should make the other Bulls teammates All-Stars just because he helped Pippen become one is illogical and rather facetious; the other teammates need to have the potential to become All-Stars in the first place, they at least became better ball players due to playing with MJ, but more importantly why you are trying to even make such a specious argument, in the first place, is rather disappointing. also saying Pippen won a playoff series without Jordan, is just such a ridiculous statement to make without context, as Pippen only won that series *AFTER* they were already 3-peat World Champs. by your "logic" i could say that Pippen also subsequently did not make the finals or win a championship without Jordan either, just to show you that i can make ridiculous non-sequitur statements too. that's not what we are discussing or what Max was even saying. he was just saying that MJ only had one All-Star on his team for all 6 chips, and you even admitted that the other players on the team, while good at playing their role, were not in-fact All-Stars as well. that is all.

I dont care how wrong he is.....Love me some T-Mac, my favorite player.

year 2020 and still this is the conversation...

Tmac nailed it at the end haha

um....Phil jackson vs Tyron Lue....

@martisuper7963

6 жыл бұрын

um Spolestra (Pat Riley)? He run away from good coach or he dismiss him (David Blatt) so what???

Tracy is so right on this!

@roylopez9797

2 жыл бұрын

Micheal Jordan is the greatest of all time !

This argument completely disregards the level of competition of the opponent which Tracy started to bring up at the end. LeBron has lost in the Finals to a Spurs team with Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli twice, and they had Kawhi the second time. And, he's lost to the Warriors twice, the second time when they had Kevin Durant. Michael never ever played against teams that were as good as these.

Max come in the cut all nerdy. "Actually guys did you know.."🤓

How does lebron make his teammates better when everybody he plays with play worser with him

@MikeBNumba6

6 жыл бұрын

jacoby mannie that stupid myth came back in 06 when Daniel Gibson went off on the pistons. And it was because the pistons were focused on lebron driving the paint it left Gibson open. The pistons under estimated Gibsons shooting so they paid for it. But yea lebron doesn't make anyone better. He turns everyone into spot up shooters

@HemanParkFilms

6 жыл бұрын

Dude! Thank you for pointing that out. This is why Philly is foolish to go after LeBron. He would ruin them at an early stage in their development. He makes people jump shooters cause he is a stat chaser.

@wevo2k

6 жыл бұрын

That's not true everyone he's played with since Miami had jumper except for a few centers they could knock down their shots wen they were open u get wat I mean n then players that were traded this year are shooters

@zulu2615

6 жыл бұрын

Are you dumb? It doesn't mean players literally become better then lebron, the best player in the NBA right now, it means he makes bench/role players better then what they really are

@likemikegenerationx2

6 жыл бұрын

jacoby mannie Back in 2009, Mo Williams was an all star when he played with LeBron. LeBron leaves and Mo Williams becomes trash

Get'em straight T-Mac!

*FUN GAME* pause at literally any point in the video and Stephen A’s face is like he’s about to say “BLASPHEMOUS” like he did to Lavar 😂

The difference is: Jordan played with the only super team in the league, while Lbj plays in a super team era... so naturally, in Lebron’s era it is harder to win championships as it is more reliant on the team you end up with

@richardturner1063

6 ай бұрын

Thank you Sir

Jordan’s era was just totally different man. The talent level was totally different. Jordan was the only dude with his talent and skill level. Now the league is full of athletically gifted, skilled and talented freaks of nature. The game was different. Jordan’s Bulls teams would have a tougher time competing in today’s NBA. Yes, the great ones can be great in any era and Jordan would get his, but today’s game would create all kinds of matchup issues for yesterday’s players. Guys in that era were usually known for being good at ONE aspect of the game (ie. A “dunker”, a “rebounder”, a “bruiser”, a “defender”, a “shot-blocker”, a “scorer”, a “passer”). Now these guys are doing multiple things in ways we’ve never seen before.

1min05 stephen a: "LETS JUST CALM DOWN" (continues to shout at a maximum volume)

What SAS said is the most accurate description of LBJ: he never sacrifices, other players who play with him had to sacrifice to contribute to LBJ's 'greatness'.

Mikes the GOAT.

@Amir-vs9xx

6 жыл бұрын

Julius Isome 2011

@Bnoise22

6 жыл бұрын

no hes not

McGrady argument is weak. He's contradicting himself. Lebron HAD to JOIN forces with WADE and BOSH to win in MIAMI!

@itsyoungamazing1610

6 жыл бұрын

Kev D hes saying kd had to team up to beat Lebron..1 man..lebron didn't join those teams fearing 1 player..he just wanted to win..where kd had to join a 73win team to finally beat Lebron

@williamalexanderalexander4073

6 жыл бұрын

stupid, he's joining the heat to be celtics, ( pierce )

@williamalexanderalexander4073

6 жыл бұрын

omgegalul ? nerd. if you dont think he try to beat the celtics by joining the heat than u are stupid

@williamalexanderalexander4073

6 жыл бұрын

celtics doesnt have pierce allen and garnet in 2007 ? lol

@williamalexanderalexander4073

6 жыл бұрын

NERD

So the playoffs are so unwatchable this year that we're back on this topic.

Tmac should not be in the hof

@PERC_ANGLE.96

4 жыл бұрын

💯

@dominquejaccson2520

4 жыл бұрын

🤦🏿‍♂️ nonsense y'all didn't watch this man torch shit

@illmatic826

4 жыл бұрын

He’s a first round virgin

@mtdubdachamp6917

4 жыл бұрын

Smh.

@terrenceperkins5282

4 жыл бұрын

@@mtdubdachamp6917 can i ask u a question. Who got these # in the nba & is this hof # . 1. Rookie of the year 2 . 4 scored titles 3. League mvp 4 . All star mvp Are these # hof 🤔

There's no one I would start a team with over Michael Jordan. No brainer.

@adamsamuel8593

6 жыл бұрын

What Shit you talkin. Didn't the Bulls win 6 championships. I know i building a team around MJ. You could build a team around MJ Lebron Kobe Magic Leonard.

Stephen A just yells at the guy to make his point sound better

@paradisee3293

6 жыл бұрын

Brady Ferg I swear this show so bias

dont know why this is an argument. MJ is greater than LBJ BY FAR.

@yrnxkj7607

5 жыл бұрын

Wali Toor Jordan has a better Career but LeBron is a better player

@erikmerced6329

5 жыл бұрын

@@yrnxkj7607 that's not true either. After watching both of them, you can't tell who is better because it was a different era and they play different styles of basketball. Then I look at records. Records that LeBron can't match and records that took LeBron longer to pass MJ in. LeBron is a beast don't get me wrong, but he's not at MJ's level. And yes, 3-6 is a huge reason why

T-Mac is my favorite player. He made me become Rockets fan. When he played I had the same feeling when I watch Harden play: This team can do something. Unfortunately injuries he and Yao suffered stopped any success they might have had. When Rockets got Harden, I got that same happy optimistic feeling about Rockets potential I had with T-Mac on the court.

Lebron needs more because everyone needs more in today’s nba. No two all stars an a roster would be able to win a championship in today’s nba. Let alone 6

@PritDeLaGhetto

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Peck what did dirk do? He beat a team with 3 all stars. That was only 7 years ago. The spurs won and they're extremely old except for kawhi

@PritDeLaGhetto

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Peck the Celtics right now could've gone to the finals and this is without an all star on the team

@PritDeLaGhetto

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Peck not playing*

@cubbdacrossfacecrippler

4 жыл бұрын

@@PritDeLaGhetto the Mavricks was well equipped to beat the Heat that year. Two Hall of Famers,. A defensive player of the year a deep bench, and two more All Stars in Caron Butler and Shawn Marion. ( Who should be in the HOF). The Mavricks was loaded.

@carterbilbro4615

4 жыл бұрын

psingh ok and the warriors had 4

Stephen A was flatout lying too when he said that Lebron has never sacrificed. Lebron had to learn to play off the ball (which is something he never did before) in order to make things work with D-Wade AND Kyrie. He also had to develop a post-game. He also had to embrace playing the PF position when he didn't want to. He also had to defend the opposing teams best player in crunch time....EVEN when they were PGs or Centers. Also, Stephen A asked the question as if other players didn't have to sacrifice to play with Jordan. Max and Stephen A exemplify perfectly how irrational and delusional Jordan lovers are. You can't have a reasonable debate with Jordan lovers if you prefer anybody over Jordan for anything. It's f**king ridiculous.

I love how a player can sit and tell debaters about their own career and the say he’s wrong... smh unreal

@JironMitchell919

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯 smh

They gone run this debate into the ground lol.

Why does PHIL JACKSON never factor in. Jordan did not coach the triangle himself!

@RxOxPx

6 жыл бұрын

Lmfao GTFO that is weaker than tmac last statement thats why it doesnt factor. soon we'll hear y does steve kerr not factor for curry or heck tylue for bron. great players make great coaches and vise versa.

@hectorrayray3371

6 жыл бұрын

Rizzy idiot it doesnt matter????

@ReneParada

6 жыл бұрын

Jordan had to sacrifice his style of play from '84 to '89 (most dominant version of MJ) to play in Phil's system and Tex Winter's Triangle Offense. Tex was the one who invented the triangle offense and Phil was the "conductor" (like an orchestra) to execute it. MJ can play any system and under any coach, just ask Doug Collins, Phil Jackson, Dean Smith, and other coaches who he played against or played with in All Star games. Jordan was the perfect competitor and student of the game, he evolved his game throughout his career, perhaps the only one to truly do that. But Phil was never the legendary coach before coaching Jordan and winning the first 3-peat. Phil did not get Chicago the championship in 94 and 95, in which Rudy T of the Rockets won with Olajuwon. Phil never won in LA with only Kobe as a superstar, he needed to have Shaq and Pau Gasol.

@celticsfansean

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Moore, perhaps if lebron didn’t kill his coaches, aka allow himself to be coached better coaches would wanna coach him. Why would a great coach go where a man can coach the team to the finals have two all stars go down still compete thanks to the best player on the team and get fired. Blatt isn’t in nba because he tried to coach lebron.

@zReNAgAdE504

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Moore mj didn even wanna PLAY in da triangle 😅😅

T-Mac, how you gonna say MJ doesn't make his teammates better. Jordan's first 3-Peat Jordan, Pippen, and a bunch of role players. 2nd 3-Peat Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman(who wasnt a scorer), and a bunch of role players. James when he left for Miami had Wade, Bosh, Battier, Allen, and other high rated players. James back at Cleveland, had Kyrie, Love, J.R. Smith, etc. James has always played with higher rated rosters than Jordan did. Here are some role players Jordan played with B.J Armstrong, Craig Hodges, Cliff Levingston, Dennis Hopson, Randy Brown, Jud Buechler, Dickey Simpkins, Jason Caffey. Here are some role players from Lebrons title years Shane Battier, Mario Chalmers, Udonis Haslem, Mike Miller, Ray Allen, Chris Andersen, Rashard Lewis, Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson, Iman Shumpert, Mo Williams. Jordan 6 for 6 in NBA Championships Lebron is what 3 for 8.

@matthewrobinson4156

6 жыл бұрын

Stupidly biased list of role players Jordan had. Conveniently forgot to mention: Steve Kerr, Tony Kukoc, Horace Grant, NBA All-Defensive Player and 7x Rebounding Champion (who you just disregarded as some average player) Dennis Rodman, Phil Jackson as one of the all-time great coaches and of course top 50 all-time (8x Defensive First Team) Scottie Pippen. 72-10 team had no role players? Look up 2007 Cavs that Lebron got to the Finals vs the Spurs. The 2010 Cavs had a record of 61-21 after Lebron left they were 19-63, that's called making a team better.

@2340mystroe

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Robinson even adding those, Lebron still had higher rated role players. Kerr, will be remembered for one shot, he wasn't a scorer., Horace Grant is in the same group as Rodman. Kukoc was a decent player. So Kukoc and Battier cancel each other out. With the teams Lebron has had, he should be 8 for 8.

@2340mystroe

6 жыл бұрын

Ultimately, this is a debate that will never end. Two different era's.

@emmanuelenyinwa1443

6 жыл бұрын

"James has always played with higher rated rosters than Jordan did." James went to the FINALS with Mo Williams as his second best player. In 2015, Love AND Kyrie were injured. LeBron took a team to the Finals where Matthew Dellavedova was the next best player. Jordan NEVER ONCE got to .500 without another Hall of Famer. He played 11 playoff games without Pippen. He was 1-10 in those games. You REALLY think there is a comparison?

@bigde131

6 жыл бұрын

THEGR8ONE it should end. Lebron played better teams than Jordan did. Nowadays everyone’s so athletic. I just watched some Jordan games on KZread and some of the people guarding him wouldn’t be in the nba today.

Why does molly look like shes about to perform a rendition of "whats its gonna be" with busta rhymes?

what was the point of tmac saying the last thing he said

Jordan had style, swag and killer instict...it was beatifull to watch him. Lebron is great but not on jordan level...my opinio tho

@russell9411

6 жыл бұрын

Elvisnation go watch LeBron witness greatness

@hectorrayray3371

6 жыл бұрын

Elvisnation E your idiot that note

@sdjosh9081

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, Jordan and Kobe were way more fun to watch than Lebron. Iverson and prime D.Rose too.

@OfficerJakeyPoo

6 жыл бұрын

Elvisnation E "killer instinct" LeBron has 4 more career game winners and game tiers at a higher percentage

@N123dog

6 жыл бұрын

funny how athletes are more stronger, faster and smarter than ever in literally every sport but basketball apparently.

Tmac sounded stupid the last few seconds of this vid bringing up kd joining a superteam when LeBron made 2 different ones to win championships in the first place

@Soldier979

6 жыл бұрын

Did Kyrie or Love make it to the playoffs pre-Lebron james? Did Wade and Bosh make it to the playoffs the year Lebron left (2015)? Nope

@treyymacc

6 жыл бұрын

soldier2009 did LeBron win a ring without either of them???? oh ok

@og384

6 жыл бұрын

treyymacc Did jordan win a ring without pippen? Oh ok

@Soldier979

6 жыл бұрын

Did Jordan win without Pippen? oh ok Did Kobe win without Shaq and Gasol? oh ok Did Magic win without Kareem? oh ok Did Bird win without Parish? oh ok What was your point

@treyymacc

6 жыл бұрын

OG March no but he won 6 with him what's LeBron excuse?????

Stephen A sorta sounded like Kanye when he says how much Tmac's bodyguard loved him lmao 'the crips love me'

Max is basically comparing Pippens greatness to Kevin Love. Kevin is good but not that good especially defensively.

@keithdoherty7396

Ай бұрын

Ya but even though kyrie is a d bag he's better than pippen was

"Lebron elevates his team"...B.S... those guys at cleveland where solid pieces before turning into spot up shooters to fit the 'Lebron System'.

@eldenrace1489

6 жыл бұрын

Championship Barbosa Lol I have been telling bronsexuals that for a long time. He actually makes his teammates worse. Jordan played off the ball alot because he was a killer from the midrange. In turn his teammates actually had the ball more than LeBron's teammates.

@zowalk321

6 жыл бұрын

Championship Barbosa Thankyou bro. I can tell you know basketball. Jordan made his team mates way better because he actually played in a system. Lebron holds the ball way to much.

@eldenrace1489

6 жыл бұрын

Mr Apocalypse Lol last game he held the ball for 47% of the time. He is a stat padder and can't play in a system that prioritise team ball. He turns his teammates into one dimensional spot up shooters. This is just facts you bronsexuals cant stand. But hey atleast he can get his triple doubles while playing no defense whatsoever, his fans love that right?

@makaveli6053

6 жыл бұрын

Mr Apocalypse yeah Flopden, LeBrick, Westbrick they’re all stat padding

@seanthornton9539

6 жыл бұрын

Championship Barbosa they wouldn't be in the playoffs without lebron dumbass

Jordan is a better competitor than lebron its "mind over matter". I like lebrons game better for a team sport but I do believe Jordan was a better competitor and winner than lebron because his competitive drive plus game pushed him to a level most players can't hit. Lebron has the most God given talent plus basketball IQ but does not have the same competitive will that Jordan had it's not a knock it's just what it is. Lebron is a general he wants to win as a team whereas Jordan is a assassin he does most of the work himself to win.

@shaquillbranch9561

6 жыл бұрын

Kyle Adams this is actually a really good assessment. I like this.

@marioedwards6289

6 жыл бұрын

Kyle Adams well said. U are absolutely right that is the difference. Lebron is genetically a better player period. But lacks the will to win that mj had. Kobe had that will thats why he will always be better than lebron.

@makehumanitygreatagain8128

6 жыл бұрын

Jordan is more naturally talented then JeBrawn.

@Play2Hiswill

6 жыл бұрын

I just want to hear your explanation? It's all subjective for the most part but please explain

@hashtrey6338

6 жыл бұрын

Kyle Adams perfectly said

I wonder how Bron & Jordan be feeling when they see all these debates

Greatest debate in American Sports History

If MJ joined the Heat they would’ve won all 4 finals by sweeps...I rest my case

@kaqueburlington4278

6 жыл бұрын

DreDaGr8$ Very well said!

@Karlog06

6 жыл бұрын

DreDaGr8$ sweep.who 😂😂😂. The Spurs ? 😂😂😂

@Xanninja

6 жыл бұрын

with Wade14.9 ppg and Bosh 10 ppg vs Duncan? and Wade and Bosh getting abused on D that series? Ano NO bench vs the Spurs SHOCK Troops?? and LBJ shooting 50% from 3, 58% from the field 28-29 ppg? And Chalmers quitting on Erik Spo? And HEAT getting outscore 15-0 in a tie game the moment LBJ went out with leg cramp? I rest my case too dumbass, MJ wouldnt of went no 4-0 clown.

@dredagr848

6 жыл бұрын

Xanninja you know it’s funny you said all of that and not mention the Dallas finals one time...just ☝️ , that alone let’s me know you and I both know MJ wouldn’t had let that happen. And the MJ wouldn’t have got beat by the Spurs and even IF he did it wouldn’t had been no blowouts 4-1 I’m sure we can both agree to that

@tlinscents

6 жыл бұрын

Have you ever looked up some of Jordan's stats in the finals... he had plenty of games where scottie pippen carried the load....

Tmac has no points I expect better from him

@conspiracybrother7935

6 жыл бұрын

Sanji Allen I know bro, this debate made me think that T-Mac maybe shouldn't be debating.

Good shit Tracy !

Mike must have denied T-Mac a autograph

OH MY GOD, this is the first time I have ever heard ESPN ever admit this crap about LeBron. finally. he's had at least 2 other all stars with him the last decade and has had the highest payroll team also. you better make the finals with that kind of talent. MJ the goat. always will be

@Northphilly-wu4oq

6 жыл бұрын

The Karnige Just like they keep saying the warriors team Lebron beat is better than any other team Jordan beat,this is a bunch of Rubbish they forgetting LeBron had two other future hall of famers in Irving and love

@mrmvp2323

6 жыл бұрын

Brian Lane future hofs because they won with lebron! Stop acting like these guys werent on lottery teams before joining lbj.the first time they played in the playoffs was with lbj but they were just that good huh? Foh😂😂

@Sain065

6 жыл бұрын

And half the games they were injured

@madarah3722

6 жыл бұрын

What talent does he have nobody scores more then 15 then love an bron and they have terrible coach unlike Jordan with Rodman pippin and Phil so don’t talk about goat

@Northphilly-wu4oq

6 жыл бұрын

aka Storm Rodman was like 35 when he went to the bulls and they only had him for defense

Such a great interview. Steven A and Max made two perfect points abt LeBron. 1: players sacrifice to play with him. 2: it's easier to build super team with MJ. Such perfect, precise and accurate points! Hats off to you guys!

@lalapanikan725

3 жыл бұрын

all mj do is score and defense that's why its so easy and people love when players score a lot, they under estimate when players pass and make plays because they dot understand basketball like that

If other players have to sacrifice, then its not elevating others. Tracy needs to acknowledge that Wade, Bosh, Kyrie n Love were already established players. However, Pippen was not an established and all star calibre when he joined Jordan. As a matter of fact Sonics traded Pippen.

SAS is that old man 👴 talking about ‘in my day...’

Lebron making his teammates better has been the fakest plug ever created by the media in nba history.

@SidestickPilot

6 жыл бұрын

Gmoney Mozart bro you don’t know what you’re talking about look at all the teams he played with statistically with and without Lebron.

@RD-ub8ck

6 жыл бұрын

lebron makes his teammates worse holds the ball to long takes his teammates out of rythem

@gamebred-gannicus2060

6 жыл бұрын

Gmoney Mozart that is so true 2007cav players numbers dropped when lebron came

@SidestickPilot

6 жыл бұрын

STATS DONT LIE no they don’t. Statistically and performance every team he’s played for played substantially better. Don’t talk out your ass.

@savage_gaming1465

6 жыл бұрын

STATS DONT LIE ur dumb lmao

Jordan couldnt win a chip before he got help either. To win you need a core of good players end of story.

@The_Gamers_Gamer

6 жыл бұрын

beterbutz Terrible argument. No one has ever won a ring by themself. No one.

TMAC's hair in the clip lol...like a wind sock.

Lowkey wanna see Stephen A Smith debating with Shannon Sharpe about this topic

Max is such a liar and Stephen A thinks being loud and disruptive is being right. Am sure Max's knows but ignores that Scottie Pippen started playing with MJ in 87. They had to gel and wait till 91 for their championship. That's 4 years! So where is this 'as soon as Jordan got Scottie he won' rubbish coming from?

@ricowins9538

6 жыл бұрын

thekenyanpaul Scottie wasn’t an allstar the first chip

@williamalexanderalexander4073

6 жыл бұрын

MAYBE U SHOULD GET URSELF AN EAR or brain , BECAUSE U SURE DO NOT HAVE ONE , MAX SAID " AS SOON AS PIPPEN BECOME AN ALL STARS "

@thekenyanpaul

6 жыл бұрын

@Rico Wins Scottie Pippen was an ALL-STAR in 1990 and played with Michael Jordan but they didn't win the championshiop in 1990. I don't accuse anyone of being a liar lightly. Max is a liar with his 'As soon as Michael got an all-star ...' rubbish.

@thekenyanpaul

6 жыл бұрын

william alexander alexander It is inaccurate even if you shout. Scottie Pippen became an all-star in 1990 but Bulls/Jordan lost in conference finals. So the "as soon as Jordan played with an all-star' is a nonsense Max loves to regurgitate.

@lukegentry5131

5 жыл бұрын

thekenyanpaul not rlly bc lebron got swept in the finals with 2 all stars on his team and lost 2 more times with more 2 all stars on his team and he lost to a team with 1 all star so i don’t wanna hear they didn’t win the championship the first year Scottie became an all star bs bc lebron played with 4 established all stars and lost 4 times you wanna know how many times Jordan played a full season with an all star and lost... once... yikes that hurts ur argument

That last statement was the worst bail out I seen lmao. KD joining the warriors has nothing to do with a Jordan or James argument on who makes a team better. KDs move was weak but who has already done something similar to that TWICE! And about to be a THIRD time after he either gets beat by the Celtics or 4-1 in the finals. MJ made Scottie who he is easy

@fredmarques9292

6 жыл бұрын

If you think lebron going to Miami is equal to KD leaving to Golden State, you need a new brain.

@fredmarques9292

6 жыл бұрын

He's a great player but yes, you're right.

@captaincc2735

6 жыл бұрын

And scottie had a 55 win team without Jordan

@joshuagarcia3319

6 жыл бұрын

Bulls without mj will win vs lbj without cavs thats how these two affect their teams

Get me on the show please I need to teach these boys

Tmac still getting it done off the court

jordan only needed one other player in a time where each team would only have 1-2 allstats. GSW has 4 hall of famers on their team man. of course lebron gunna need more talent to beat more talent. Compared to the their competition tho, Jordan needed more than Lebron.

@89Giorgiom

6 жыл бұрын

Except Lebron needed 2-3 superstars before The Warriors became a contender.

@Nate-cx6gl

6 жыл бұрын

Wasif Zulkernine made a super team in 2011 then ran back home n made another super team in 2014. Warriors made theirs in 2016 so wtf u talkin bout😒

@Sportyman310

6 жыл бұрын

Nathan Thomas celtics didn’t have 3 superstars?

@Sportyman310

6 жыл бұрын

Nathan Thomas spurs didn’t have 3 superstars?

@Sportyman310

6 жыл бұрын

Mikeman Jordan at the rate they going all 4 gunna be hofs

Stephen A. is the biggest joke ESPN can offer. Makes me sad to watch Tracy endure through it

@lovebirdrica22

6 жыл бұрын

Tracy wanted to punch stephan a smith

@WutangClan4LiF3

6 жыл бұрын

he entertaining though . Imagine this show with max and a random guy

@ProvenHueMan

6 жыл бұрын

Mantas Šlečkus this man said "wah wah wah, lemme get my point out" 😂😂

5:24 Describes The whole Show Period.

Maybe the quality of opposition wasn't as good

Tracey McGrady don’t never need to talk NBA Basketball never again😂🤦🏾‍♂️

The league may be less physical today, but people completely neglect the fact that the league is at such a deeply talented phase. There are so many damn good players in this generation. The league wasn’t as deep then despite it being tougher and more fun to follow.

“They had to join forces “ ‼️

Real talk

what i want to ask tmac is. since he admits that someone should sacrifice when teamed up with another allstar. would lebron really defer to you? do you believe you are better than lebron that you would be the first scoring option of the team? The way I see it, lebron would not sacrifice for you. he usually is more effective when he has the ball,which also means You(tmac) would probably be 2nd. with that being said. if you wanted to win, which of the both would you rather defer to? I'd pick MJ 24/7.

@AosZas

4 жыл бұрын

Even Lebron himself would volunteraly hand over the ball to prime T-Mac to take the last shot what you talking about

@mosesblue8952

4 жыл бұрын

To win, just pass the ball to Jordan. To get some spotlights & last shot, team up with LeBron

KD didn’t join the warriors to beat LBJ 🤦🏽‍♂️ he couldn’t beat GS so he joined em

@theindivisible

5 жыл бұрын

Facts lol.. and LeBron did it first.. couldn't win a chip so he joined D'wade, a proven winner and already won a chip, and Bosh. He still kept losing finals with a stacked team

@daddydaddysititobadang6947

5 жыл бұрын

Q logic but miami didn’t beat lebron, BOSTON did! I wonder why lebron didn’t go to boston because that make his championship runs easier? BECAUSE HE NOT KD. When lebron joins miami FINALS WERE STILL COMPETITIVE AND EXCITING TO WATCH. Unlike that dumbass snake that could sign anywhere else and build his own team rather than joining a already-built team LOL

@daddydaddysititobadang6947

5 жыл бұрын

Q logic stacked? Gsw is more stacked and spurs were more stacked LOL

@theindivisible

5 жыл бұрын

@@daddydaddysititobadang6947 doesn't matter. Two snakes, just different shades. If KD wins a chip on a different team, he'll be on the same level. Both are 🐍. LeBron's Miami team with D'wade was a stacked team

@jackjack9331

5 жыл бұрын

Here's the worst part, LeFraud joined stacked teams and failed miserably!! Got his ass whipped by the Mavs the 1st year and Ray Allen saved him. At least KD took care of business immediately. Unfortunately he got hurt on the 3rd rodeo..

I’m a put the prime Tmac as my #1

Staring my team with Alex Caruso