Jim Cornette Reviews A&E's WWE Rivals: Undertaker vs. Kane
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From Episode 253 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Paul Bearer doesnt get nearly the credit he deserves for getting BOTH Undertaker and Kane over the way he did. As the original Paul Bearer…the voice,the makeup,the urn,I dont even think Vince could have imagined that execution. He fit with Undertaker seamlessly. Then when he turned heel,he became this evil,fat,vindictive heel and the infamous promo being choked by Taker “KANE IS ALIIIIIVE. YOUR BROTHER IS ALIVE UNDERTAKERRRR” . Then when Kane didnt talk,Paul (or Percy) really got that backstory over and made what could’ve been so stupid and laughable,believable. Now that I fully appreciate his WORK,you can so much of him in Paul Heyman’s current style of managing. God Bless Percy Pringle,a legendary manager who deserves his flowers big time.
@carter3369
Жыл бұрын
The promo he did on Raw the night after Kane’s debut is a great example
@demetriushuffman7030
Жыл бұрын
Paul Bearer was an undertaker in his actual profession. That's why it was so good.
@bluntforcetrauma2141
Жыл бұрын
Paul knew the trick to make a book go over. Every time.
@brianmilici3473
Жыл бұрын
And the key was PERCY created that character and added those nuances after decades in the business. If you ever get the chance he was a great interview before he passed. RIP Percy Pringle.
@metallicbigtoe3949
Жыл бұрын
A truly one of a kind talent.
The Highest rated WWE Rivals that they could possibly do is Jim Cornette VS Vince Russo. I'm not sure there's enough printed money in existence to get Cornette to do it but it would be epic.
@troystaunton254
Жыл бұрын
Jim would fight him for free.
@christiankarlkarganilla2763
Жыл бұрын
Jim refuses to contribute to anything that can make Russo richer than he is even if it means fullfilling his promise to us when it comes to meeting Russo again.
@specialk9424
Жыл бұрын
They could do it, but it would have to be on HBO, so Corny could cuss. Cause if we can't hear Corny call Russo a "Dirty motherfucking, shitstain, asswipe, piece of shit, dick licking, fuckwad", then what's the point in even doing it at all?
At this point, Corny doesn’t say “Shit Stain” in a malicious way. It comes off matter of factly, like it’s just Russo’s name.
And so, Glenn Jacobs' career was saved after two terrible gimmicks in WWF. Kane was amazing!
@davidgalvez5341
Жыл бұрын
I'll never forget the 2001 Royal Rumble, which was his Rumble, in spite of Stone Cold's victory.
@Damon.Norris
Жыл бұрын
2001 kane was jacked af . jusus x_x
"Can we just have them have a match first before they resort to cremation?" Immortal words. True of both Kane and The Fiend.
Absolutely love Kanes comeback in 2000 with the reverse colours, P. Bizzle walks out hands on hips and the place fucking erupts, awesome !
@chrisburrelljr9270
Жыл бұрын
Are u talking about the all black outfit he briefly wore when he was with xpac..that one is my fav
@metallicbigtoe3949
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisburrelljr9270 yeah, it was actually right after teaming with Xpac, the outfit is definitely his best 👌
@mecha2001
Жыл бұрын
if I'm not mistaken that was inspired by the mirror match palette from one of the old N64 games lol
@drillosophy1012
Жыл бұрын
P. Bizzle lol
@metallicbigtoe3949
Жыл бұрын
@@drillosophy1012 saw someone call him P.Bizzle years ago and it popped me, so that's his name to me ever since 🤣🤣
Bald unmasked Kane in the 2000s was still terrifying. I always thought he had the perfect face and eyes to convince us he was the same character
@Bubbabexgaming
Жыл бұрын
I swear I was just thinking that. That unmasked kane was scary
“Jerks the door off” will never stop being absolutely hysterical to me. 😂
@regularstan6212
10 ай бұрын
Who?
I love how unapologetically Cornette admits to ripping off multiple bookers to create Hell in the Cell. No sarcasm, a true genius, taking all those ingredients to create a new dish.
@washingtonrichards958
Жыл бұрын
A true heel move
@jonathanbohm6489
Жыл бұрын
People call him a copycat meanwhile the same people take exact spots from matches 20+ years ago
@LeeJGreen
Жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what every agent and booker do if they been in different territories
@timrichards6761
Жыл бұрын
When you steal from one, it's plagiarism. When you steal from many, it's research. Another Cornette quote. ✌️
@arthurdaffos1490
Жыл бұрын
Very few things have been good original booking ideas that nobody came up with in the last decades and rightfully so. Wrestling plays with the perception and the psychology of the crowd. you can alter the presentation and the flavour of things in order for them to remain fresh, but coming up with original ideas that nobody has come up with before without being too complicated or convulated is incredibly difficult, and i dont think that any booker nowadays have such genius that they Can pull this off.
AEW should sign Glenn Jacobs/Isaac Yankem and make him Dr Britt Baker's father.
@BB-ed4om
Жыл бұрын
Britt already hurls insults at Glenn on twitter because he doesn’t adhere to her political ideology.
@raydiabolico
Жыл бұрын
@@BB-ed4om even better. Family feud. Like Kurt Angle and Jason Jordan. Like Viscera and Rhea Ripley. Ill have to pitch it to Tony later.
@Thecultofwrestling
Жыл бұрын
@@BB-ed4om because glen thinks she shouldn't have rights. If you wanna call that a political ideology sure.
@jeremysammons9710
Жыл бұрын
Terrible idea
@jayb-clay2724
Жыл бұрын
Book it!
“Can we just let them have a match first before they resort to cremation?” That, my friends, is a hard quote to top.
When you think about it, the real rivalry was Undertaker vs. Paul Bearer. When he first turned on Taker and aligned with Mankind and Vader against him, it became all about Paul’s vendetta. And he single-handedly made this formerly and still somewhat supernatural character into a real person that had a family. Paul’s genius and skill made this entire thing.
@deadpilled2942
4 ай бұрын
That shit caught me by surprise. Lol.
I swear, Vince is looking more, and more like a mail order ventriloquist doll everytime I see him!
@MrShades92
Жыл бұрын
Lol he looks labotomized in this artwork
@TheGM-20XX
Жыл бұрын
He looks like the Vince McMahon Wax Sculpture at Madam Toussads' started to melt.
@papboybrooklyn77
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Bale4Bond
Жыл бұрын
It's literally the same design as always
@brettbanta2100
Жыл бұрын
Good shit, pal !!
Retconning & convolution really tainted the character of Kane. He had been unmasked on several occasions in storyline. I believe in 1999, I can remember an instance when the corporation attacked Kane, unmasked him & took pictures of his face. They used the photos to blackmail him & reacted to his disfigured face. All that gets muddied when he unmasked in 2003 & stated that his scars were "psychological".
@undefeateddynasty7974
Жыл бұрын
It all went downhill once he started dicking around with DX
@Noah-fv6dt
10 ай бұрын
Yes, but no one saw it until 2003
One of the best stories they’ve ever done!
@tylegend1986
Жыл бұрын
EVER!!
Just want Kane's standalone documentary!!!! The kane till 2004 was untouchable 🔥
@ImCummyElizabeth1979
Жыл бұрын
Yep after that WWE killed his mystic and swag. Idk why he and taker agreed to some of that stuff
@Noah-fv6dt
10 ай бұрын
Well more Kane than UNDERTAKER. But Kane was also involved in horrible storyline. Katie Vick comes to mind.
This was a great doc, grew up loving the Taker-Kane rivalry. It was hilarious though that they omitted Dr Isaac Yankem and fake Diesel (even just so Glenn could 💩 on it), as well as their first match in Smoky Mountain.
@kaptainkibiroproductions45
Жыл бұрын
Hilarious but not surprising. Glenn will literally hang up on people if they try to talk to him about it.
@wereallscrewed9714
Жыл бұрын
Because it was about Undertaker vs. Kane. Not Yankem vs Punisher or whatever. 🤷♂️
@CarloisBuriedAlive
Жыл бұрын
They covered it on the Most Wanted Treasures episode (A&E) and also on the episode of WWE Evil (Peacock)
I wonder if Corny knows that in every episode of Nash’s podcast he’s name dropped Jim. At least twice an episode too 😂
I actually liked unmasked Kane, because the subtext (to me at least) was that he wasn't badly burned, he really just had severe body dismorphia, which I thought was an interesting development for the character.
Cornettes TDS NEVER LETS ME DOWN IN THE END
@tylercox1875
4 ай бұрын
He showed it in the beginning too
I love the insane brain of Vince "make new Razor and new Diesel Paaaal"😂😂😂😂😂
"They shoudnt touch till Wrestlemania. Ofcourse Russo wants the next damn week. Kane to chokeslam The Undertaker throught the announce table" - Jim Cornette
@jeffreyklima7612
Жыл бұрын
Yeah we heard him say that. In this video and about a 1000 others. Why do people put quotes from the video in the comments?
@Sky_Blaze
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyklima7612 they choose quotes that aren't that funny or good I hate the people that do this.
This rival between them reminds me of Terry Gordy, and Steve Williams where their great rivals, and fiercest tag team
I could have gotten behind at least 90% of Jim's concept of what he wanted for Kane, that shit would have been pretty badass.
@raynwolfsbane2084
Жыл бұрын
I still think the costume they went with was a winner. That's one of the coolest attires in wrestling history. But yeah I would've loved to see the moldy bread Omen vignette lol
I like how the power-drill matches Kane's mask.
@derpderpin1568
Жыл бұрын
Craftsman Kane
@TakerKaneanite619
Жыл бұрын
Details.
@slifer875
Жыл бұрын
its the little details....
@mikeyoutubeaccount7120
Жыл бұрын
There was a matching offer on at Walmart😂
@mistermetalskull3107
Жыл бұрын
Color coordination is very important.
Vince caught a case of Shawn Michaels Wonky Eye. I didn't know that kinda thing was even transferable between two people when they kiss. Crazy shit man!
One of the best rivalries in WWE history!!
Yankem actually lasted over a year, appeared just before Summerslam 95 and last appearance was as late as the fall of 96.
Listened to the drive thru on my journey earlier and just started listening so not sure mentioned here But it is INSANE how much Jim changed/influenced certain things, be it the HIAC in WWF/E or Kane etc He really isn’t appreciated on a level he should be.
@tylegend1986
Жыл бұрын
When we are old we will tell the little wrestling kiddies about Uncle Jim!
Unmasked Kane in chains with security escorts was awesome
I enjoyed this A&E rivalry program to a certain extent. It was nice to hear from the undertaker and Kane speak about the different storylines (since well both of those individuals couldn’t talk as much without breaking kayfabe). What I felt that was boring was seeing them rehash the same footage from the undertaker documentary and seeing them gloss over 1999, 2001, 2002, and 2003. They barely even discussed Kane’s role in the buried alive match. But I digress. These were two of the best characters the WWE has created. The mystique, the dark overtones, and the fact that they were monsters…made it extra special. I think undertaker needed to change to the American badass because you could only do so much with the deadman/lord of darkness undertaker. There was no need for the ministry of darkness gimmick when the group disbanded. Plus undertaker adapted in the ring as a wrestler. I’m not sure who said this, but undertaker returning as the deadman (or a hybrid of the character) at XX was special not only because of Paul bearer, but he was able take a little of big evil in the ring and use that in the ring. He didn’t have to be big evil outside the ring. But he could use those moves without going full blown deadman in the ring.
Jim's stories are chicken soup for the soul
I'm loving both the rivals and the biography shows
@Speedyreedy1218
Жыл бұрын
Who are the people in the rivals shows?
JIM CORNETTE VS VINCE RUSSO! Ratings through the roof!
@nh7680
Жыл бұрын
Best rivalry in wrestling
Lol Vince said Kane needed the killer instinct and Kane went on to become the biggest killer in WWE
@JoeMercersWay
Жыл бұрын
Arguably that would be Benoit.
@pleaseshutup7053
Жыл бұрын
@@JoeMercersWay Benoit was murdered
If Jim gets inducted into the hall of fame one day his Speech will be: Thank you! Fuck you! Bye!
@frostedbutts4340
Жыл бұрын
Lmao that could be his tombstone
@marcusstanley96
Жыл бұрын
He wouldn’t show up he will still be scared of Covid
Isaac Yankem wasn't as bad as the Fake Diesel gimmick
@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
Жыл бұрын
9/11 wasn't as bad as the Fake Diesel gimmick.
@pleaseshutup7053
Жыл бұрын
Bastin booger wasn’t as bad as the Fake Diesel gimmick
Still waiting for Cornettes take on how great of a job Biden is doing.
@platinumgnome3887
8 ай бұрын
Starting a 3rd world war takes talent, but bumbling biden is harder to watch that aew
corny is great when talking wrestling , then turns into pockets when politics come up
@DropkickNation
Жыл бұрын
I swear to God, when he started insulting Kane because he is (among the chillest) republican(s), he cemented himself as a 100% stereotypical libtard.
The Corny Kane footage in training was gold.
Jim wrote the prequel to “See No Evil”
I’ll never forget the promo where Paul Bearer is telling McMahon Kane is coming and Vince can’t help but crack up and keep laughing mid Bearer promo 😂😂
love that Jim never misses a chance to take a well-deserved shot at Michaels
The Brothers of Destruction have the distinction of having the "Greatest Gimmick" of all time The Undertaker & the "Greatest Debut" of all time Kane.
such great time listening to these stories. also love the artwork
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
"Halloween is my favorite horror movie of modern times". Halloween is almost half a century old. Aside from borrowing the iconic Halloween sit-up, Kane is much more similar to Jason Voorhees. The strap style mask, he's a thought to be dead child who grew into a monster (or an undead monster).
@CarloisBuriedAlive
Жыл бұрын
It’s still considered a “modern horror” considering the first true horror movie is basically from 1920 lol A lot of Undertaker came from Michael Myers, and a lot of Kane came from Undertaker, and Michael Myers has always been more methodical than Jason Voorhees
6:35 Brian Last is the antichrist of good radio
He switched from Isaac Yankem to Diesel in September of 1996
Halloween is also my favorite horror film series. Having it set in a suburb always freaked me out when I was growing up bc I could imagine it actually happening in my neighborhood. Its so scary bc its so relatable. Plus John Carpenter is my hero. Dude wrote the famous creepy piano line in the movies along with writing and directing too!
That rivalry was a awesome rivalry!!!
They're (WWE/A&E) trying to emulate ESPN and their E60/30 for 30/Michael Jordan era Chicago Bulls The Last Dance documentary style, they can do it, because they have epic rivalries and personalities to do them about.
Anyone who says vince McMahon is a genius should just watch this. His original ideas are garbage. He supposedly can put a cherry on top of things but that's about it. It was always the guys making his garbage smell better. If Steve's wife didn't say stone cold his name would have been ice dagger or chilly mcfreeze or a combination and you would have got a month in wwe and vince would blamed Steve.
Excellent podcast!
It was a great documentary but, it just sucks it was only over an hour as went into detail about their respective characters, WM XIV, Unforgiven:In Your House, WM XX, and their final storyline in 2010. But, it left out their brawl at SS 2000, The Ministry vs. The Corporation, Judgment Day:In Your House and the fall out, and their reunions in 2006 and 2008 that forced them back together.
@raynwolfsbane2084
Жыл бұрын
Barely a clip of their HIAC match. That was a dream come true for me as a kid.
@CarloisBuriedAlive
Жыл бұрын
Watch their episode of WWE Evil on Peacock
The only upside to Fake Diesel, is that in hindsight we get to see Glenn Jacobs in his prime with long hair, (a look that would've made him look infinitely better than unmasked Kane with the bald head).
@TBrizzle01
Жыл бұрын
The unmasking was stupid but his lack of hair really killed it. He looked like someone's Uncle Cletus with the shortened hair. Then he just went bald.
Holy shit the image of Kane brooding while all the pictures of Undertaker are burning around him sounds badass.
Percy also managed Undertaker before the old WWF & Bruce. Also before Heyman in the NWA/WCW...
Kane losing the mask was fine. But he didn't need to lose his top or shave his hair
@ImCummyElizabeth1979
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he was too nice.. Other than his unhinged phase that was decent but He should have used his star power as leverage in some way. Keep the top and hair I say.
@9:55 So that is the origin of the 5 moves of doom.
Ok. I thought the Isaac Yankem vignettes were hilarious, very amusing and very well produced, specially the one with the goofy X-Ray view special effects. As a matter of fact, I consider the Isaac Yankem vignettes to be the best wrestling vignettes in history! Seeing those Isaac Yankem vignettes on a Saturday morning on WWF Mania made the rest of the day felt great! We all wanted more of those Isaac Yankem vignettes. Also, I think Kane's debut was amazing! Paul teased Kane for a very long time while no one got a glimpse of what he looked like. I was thinking Kane was going to be small and thin, to sort of give a slither and creep vibe of terror, like the feeling we get when we see a crawling insect. When Kane walked down the ramp on that HC match, everyone jaws dropped! HUGE AND SCARY! The costume looked great! Red makes everything look bigger. So, I think the way Kane was introduced was great. Also, it took me 4 years after Kane made his debut to figure out the guy wearing the mask and costume was Glenn. Around the year 2000, I was scrolling through some news articles on AOL and seen an article on Kane, that's where I found out Glenn is Kane.
10:22 *intensely waiting on hair flip*
Yeah that voice box thing was great, at that time, I thought he really needed that thing.
I just recently found out Kane has an autobiography. I saw it at Dollar Tree.
Yankem debut at summerslam 95 He was used until about beginning of 1996
"The blind leading the fat" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Debuts for Glen Jacobs Summerslam ‘95 - Yankem vs Bret Raw after ‘96 Buried Alive - Fake Diesel Hell in a Cell ‘97 - Kane
That 1st Isaac Yankem vignette featured Bucky Beaver as a patient with bloody gauze over his mouth running out of the dentist office. A definite rib by Vince on Dunn.
Looking forward to Jim discussing Vince’s retirement.
jerry the king lawler came up with the issac yankem gimmick based on that old joke
Awsome give us more taker stories please
Where can people watch this in 🇬🇧?
I know people don’t care for unmasked Kane but that first run literally was terrifying! Unmaked Kane was a beast for that first run! Everyone was scared of him!
The red suit IA iconic
Jim Cornette's explanation of this story is just great. It really brought all of this to life. He made a great story awesome.
Love how JC likes people. Then he finds out they have different points of view so they are crazy. 😂
@saulsilver5753
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've never been a fan with the way Jim has essentially dragged his name through the mud ever since he became a mayor. He talks about him like he's some evil person now because he happens to be a Republican politician. It's some very irrational thinking on his part. He legit goes on the most unnecessary 10 min rant about it in the Kane biography review.
@MM-zq9cj
3 ай бұрын
@@saulsilver5753it’s unfortunate how political sycophants need to base their entire feelings of a decent man on all accounts/coworker for a decade on which politics they support. Really makes cornette come off bad not that he cares because he’s that radicalized. Hopefully this way of thinking is rooted out eventually
I can't help but think these creative meetings at WWF were a mirror of the ones going at a Days of Our Lives....Male Soap Opera, I've always said...
That's gotta be Kane.
Really tells you what a creative genius Vince Mcmahon is, hearing all these stories from Bruce, Jim etc and still making your own decision thats eventually a success...truly a Legend.
Never mind Unabomber, never forget the Xmas creature (or whatever it was in Memphis)🎄🎄
I had no idea Jim shared such a hand in The Undertaker storylines, which was ironic in that his mouthy manager character was often the one antagonizing the Undertaker and sending his proteges after him. Lol! But you can tell just from Jim Cornette's personality as shown here in this video as well as many others, he is the perfect kind of guy for the writer's team. He has that personality to know what will keep you enthralled and engrossed in something just like his whole delivery throughout this video kept me enthralled. He seems like a natural storyteller and probably who WWE need to hire back right now.
I didn't remember Nash doing the choke slam. Something I forgot about. I remember him doing the sidewalk slam.
I remember when they announced that Razor and Diesel were coming back I immediately thought, "Holy shit! They really are going to have an interpromotional ppv!" which is what I thought when Hall and Nash first showed up on WCW television.
@chrischar9428
Жыл бұрын
Please tell me you were 12
So it sound like ol' James E. came up with a Mankind style look for Kane.
Jim cornette idea for Kane don’t sound that good to me man.
We loved the Christmas creature
Bruce should've made dozen of vignettes of Brother Love's backstory & tease Taker just before Survivor Series We need a one on one of Kevin Nash & Glenn Jacobs talking about the Diesel & Razor gimmicks and their late partners on WWE Network/Peacock....
I remember Cena and I talking to Jim backstage and undertaker walking up and said to us ask jim about the banana and Jim's face turning red with that smile and laugh that he has.
If I'm not mistaken Kane as Yankem worked with Bret at Summerslam 95, and was only used sparingly after that.
@Devypocalypse
Жыл бұрын
Only times I remember him afterwards on PPV was at Survivor Series (coincidentally eliminated by Undertaker) and then at Royal Rumble 96. There might have been a dark match at one of the IYH against Bret but that's all from what I remember.
Once Jim said the Docs name I remember that character lol...I feel old ha
I love This Podcast when Brian Last is on it
Anyone know where I can see these A&E WWE documentaries? Not including Reddit or illegal streaming
@augustushaynes1311
Жыл бұрын
A&E app. A number of episodes are free too but if you have cable, you can sign in using your cable company sign in info.
@byron7583
Жыл бұрын
@@augustushaynes1311 ah ok. Thank you very much
Something just dawned on me listening to Jim talking about how the old thick blue/black bar cage was so much stiffer than the far more forgiving chain mesh. Wasn't the last match featuring the old thick bar cage Austin vs Mcmahon at st valentines day massacre? Did he nix that version of the cage specifically because he had to experience it firsthand? "Goddamn pals! Why didn't you tell me how stiff that cage was?"
@lildwell2
Жыл бұрын
More than likely. Especially since Vince's tells them to lay it in thick when he wrestles. He took some ecw stiff shots into that cage. They probably nixed it because it's easier to lower the chain link cage than it is to have it built.
@Andrew-gk6bn
11 ай бұрын
Thats why they changed the rings as well when Vince started taking bumps lol
As much fun as hearing Jim ripping on AEW is, I could listen to him talk about WWE/WWF all day.
@CarloisBuriedAlive
Жыл бұрын
Whenever he watches WWE, he always finds at least one or two things he genuinely likes, and hearing his passion for wrestling mixed in with the ranting is always better than him talking about AEW which will end up being a minuscule portion of wrestling history with a very limited future.
Listen to the pod cast at work waiting to go sit on my golden stones
They kept Kane strong for a year and a half and then they booked terribly for the rest of his run. One of the biggest what ifs in the last 25 years. And that says a lot
@kennethrawlings7265
Жыл бұрын
What I mean by what if: The kane character was successful because of the initial idea and the work ethic and dedication of Glen. The booking didnt help him at all after 1999. There were many times Vince couldve pushed him as the monster heel or tweener that is demented but the fans love. Instead for majority of the time Kane was the gatekeeper. Anytime they put him in a long angle with someone, the other person was being groomed to be world champion/main event push. And he was beaten on tv so many times its a shame
@CarloisBuriedAlive
Жыл бұрын
He shouldn’t have lost to Austin clean after winning the belt, and they shouldn’t have given him a series of girlfriends unless he would still be seen as dangerous around them instead of abnormally sensitive
When kane came out the following year of wrestling was great. When he came out and destroyed everyone on RAW was GOLD then Austin comes in at the End and the program ends and the fans are going insane. Gooooood memory.
10:31 "Squisher, Squisher, Snake Eyes"
@8:50 You can almost hear Jim cover his face in frustration.
Has Jim reviewed Ric Flair’s last match short film yet? I’d love to hear his thoughts!
@TheeCoachg
Жыл бұрын
Same but I dont think they will. I enjoyed it a lot