Johnny Ace is a prime example of people being elevated above their level of competence

@dunnwell7780

3 жыл бұрын

He certainly has a track record of failing upwards.

@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats

3 жыл бұрын

Stephanie liked him though because he was so friendly....

@marlonthomas8042

3 жыл бұрын

It’s called the Peter principle I believe I only remember that because I used to have an incompetent manager named Pete We always used to refer to him as mr principle Dude was such an idiot he thought we were complimenting him by calling him a man of principles 🤦🏽‍♂️

@user-do2ev2hr7h

3 жыл бұрын

I think he was probably not as bad at his job as many people think, but his job wasn't really what many people think it was. He was doing what WWE wanted him to do.

@mr.x9566

3 жыл бұрын

@@marlonthomas8042 Yep. When people are promoted to their level of incompetence. The problem with people like that, is that they go on to gain employment elsewhere trading of off the job title they have/had.

Switching Jim Ross out for John Laurinitas as head of Talent Relations was the beginning of the end of the WWE product. The shit show they have today is a direct result of Laurinitas inability to spot genuine talent and “IT” factor.

@planetschlock

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe, but it seems like a lot of the talent Johnny handpicked (like all the lingerie models and lumbering goons) have long since washed out.

@obtuse186

4 жыл бұрын

@Smith Hart you best not criticise any movie, any song, any art or damn near anything because I doubt you could do any of that shit.

@MrAbridgedTV

4 жыл бұрын

Coachg I can always smell a blanket statement when someone says “genuine talent”

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

Coachg aj styles, samoa joe, Balor, Daniel Bryan, shinsuke, punk, etc they still sign quality talent.

@obtuse186

4 жыл бұрын

@@1882Stu none of which they trained themselves nor have they used effectively outside of Bryan and maybe AJ

"He could squeeze a nickle till the buffalo farted." - LOL!!!

I love that story John Cena begging Vince not to screw over Danny Davis.

@RSans4210

4 жыл бұрын

@1:06:18

@scottishdanny2432

4 жыл бұрын

@@RSans4210 u da real MVP

Poor Jim, all he really wanted was a little respect as a legitimate promotion that was training future stars for the WWE and turning profit at the same time. He and Danny Davis were a great partnership and took great pride in their business. It was a neat little arrangement actually, but of course WWE have to get their dirty mitts into everything and shape it into their preferred image. Massive props to John Cena going to bat for Danny Davis, a good man never forgets where he came from.

@jjjjj2220

4 жыл бұрын

He not in the Vince club he doesn't like it

@timf7413

4 жыл бұрын

I understand Jim's point about OVW being it's own business, but WWE''s position is understandable too. From their perspective, the entire point of a developmental system is to train people to work for them, so it's understandable they would want that system to operate as close to how they do as possible

@jjjjj2220

4 жыл бұрын

@@timf7413 yes but if they only ever work for them is it going to work

@timf7413

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe so, but again from their perspective, why should they care about spending money to train people to work for anyone other than them?

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

ruaridh2k7 the ruthless aggression doc does all that

The most nauseating thing about that special was the Bella twins contribution. Hearing them complain about going to FCW, being there for a few months, and then getting frustrated, like "when are we gonna get called up already"! They said themselves they had zero training before FCW but they think they need to go to the big time so quickly. Such ego and naivete. It's gross really.

@-BigMike-

4 жыл бұрын

You nailed it.

@dwlc4288

4 жыл бұрын

That is why that women's division sucked for many years, not just the Bellas but a lot of those women that was brought in during that time had that same attitude.

@avalond1193

4 жыл бұрын

The bellas slept their way to the top

@mikepuppetz9

4 жыл бұрын

The fact that they're going in the Hall of Fame this year before Undertaker, Jim Johnston, The Rock, and even Jim Cornette himself is a disgrace and singlehandedly invalidates the Hall of Fame. What did they accomplish other than blowing their way up the ladder?

@NomnomJawsnomnom

4 жыл бұрын

But.....but....but.....they had tits. Hell, to Vince they're halfway to being stars right there!

Next time I need a name for a create a wrestler on a video game, I'm calling them "Chauncy Blubbershit"

@DefendYoungstown

3 жыл бұрын

Chauncei Blüberschitt

@ThomasBahamas

3 жыл бұрын

@@DefendYoungstown @newlegacyinc

@jasonstinebaugh8447

3 жыл бұрын

Right?! I see him as a big bastard in the vein of a Haystacks Calhoun 6'9 or so 500 lbs and hairy! LMFAO!

@oldsman7

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of an Abdullah the Butcher looking creature complete with neck rolls and tit flaps.

@shootfromtheright2712

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldsman7 Hey quit looking at my Facebook.

People can badmouth Cornette on a lot of things, but the man does know how to run a wrestling promotion in a bankable way to a small niche audience of die hard fans. That's what Smoky Mountain was, that's what OVW was, and the only time it didn't work was when it was RoH where the market SHOULD be bigger based on the powers that be behind the scenes. Granted, no one seems to have cracked that RoH code yet. Regardless, there are indies and major promotions overextending past their means to do things that don't draw, with talent that's killing themselves, that haven't been able to accomplish what Jim has with well booked textbook wrestling in two different territories.

@young321bookie

4 жыл бұрын

If he knew anything about the wrestling industry as it is today then he'd be employed by someone mate. He's passed it and the WWE knows it.

@ItDoesntMatterReally

4 жыл бұрын

@@young321bookie Over the past decade he's worked with TNA, ROH, and MLW on a creative and (more importantly) business oriented level. The problem with Cornette isn't that he's out of touch, the problem with Cornette is that if he's not running his own company he becomes a malcontent. Outside of maybe MLW, he's burned every bridge he's crossed based on pettiness on his end. The man booked the last great years of ROH television before lizard man took the books and goofed everything up, helped Court Bauer coach talent and staff on how to present a show worth airing, and would still be with TNA right now in one of it's better runs if it weren't for visa issues. If the man wasn't an asset, then no one would take a chance on him despite the PR backlash that constantly surround him.

@cliffwaltz8223

4 жыл бұрын

@@young321bookie you spelled sports entertainment wrong...today's product is not wrestling

@zamiel3

3 жыл бұрын

@@cliffwaltz8223 🤣 👍

@joeski1073

3 жыл бұрын

The problem Corny had was that short time period was bad for the bigger promotions so it definitely wasn't gonna be good for his newer company. People like to say he worked everywhere na didn't last but they were literally all on his own terms, to my knowledge. Like excuse him for standing for something and not wanting to be a stooge.

Johnny Ace had delusions of adequacy

What I liked about this FCW show was how OVW produced the likes of Cena, Lesnar, Batista, Orton & Shelton Benjamin yet you hear Jonny Ace saying "We thought a territory in Florida would attract bigger stars". The next guy to be shown from FCW was Heath Slater! 😂 Good job Jonny Heath Slater is way better than anyone hired in Kentucky 👍

@DarkLordofTheSith69

4 жыл бұрын

😂 The one man band baby !!!

@gamesthatiplay9083

4 жыл бұрын

Attract bigger stars? I assume living in Florida is the attraction. I have friends with big degrees that when scouting for jobs they say... Minnesota? Not a chance. Kentucky? Not a chance. Plus it seems like half the wrestlers live in Tampa anyway.

@MeNoSpeakJibberish

4 жыл бұрын

@@gamesthatiplay9083 Well yeah its a nicer place Im sure & yes a lot of big talent have been based in Florida for years. It was just funny to me after the high calibre stars produced in OVW they move to Florida to attract bigger stars then show Heath Slater of all people as one example of the guys FCW produced

@josereyes1148

4 жыл бұрын

a fine example of how incompetent people think.

@vvstreetfightervv

4 жыл бұрын

Slater... Who's now fired... ~L O L~

OVW might be Corny's biggest achievement. Anddd would you look at that, he even talked Tyler Black out of not going to TNA and go to FCW. Corny's greatest irony is that for all the hatred he has in modern wrestling, he's the one who actually helped and develop the superstars and legends of modern wrestling.

@six12it47

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, just like how he invented the star ratings that all the aew wrestlers go crazy over today

@mkits7350

3 жыл бұрын

@@six12it47 why did you bring AEW up? lol they are living rent free in your head it seems haha

@wolfcrewe7474

3 жыл бұрын

@@mkits7350 no it’s just dog shit and an embarrassment to ‘professional wrestling’.

@DarksaberForce

2 жыл бұрын

His crowning achievements were Brock, Cena, Orton, and Batista.

Johhny ace being in charge makes me shake my head.

@ronsoyesmickeymousetattoos4020

4 жыл бұрын

UhhhhhHhhHhhhhHhhh... Beavis and Butt-head, you two are suspended!

@DarksaberForce

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronsoyesmickeymousetattoos4020 "You little bastards"

I love these long stories from Cornette. Who needs a biography when you have so much archive on youtube.

@Blaklyon0

Жыл бұрын

The amount of detailed information that Jim provides in most of his videos that last about an hour long, Are more informative than anything that you Could see on a A&E!

I'm old & when I think of Florida Wrestling I'll always think of Dusty Rhodes, Kevin Sullivan, Purple Haze, Woman, Barry Windham, Lex Luger, Wahoo, & Brody. I can't help it.

@christinablakley7261

4 жыл бұрын

Neil Goldring snd that's what it will always be. They can't take that away from us

@neilgoldring4832

4 жыл бұрын

Christina blakley you said it sweetie 😀

@IanIsrael

4 жыл бұрын

Christina blakley Kevin Sullivan and Dusty Rhodes had a legendary feud in Florida.

@mdhotstuff

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Cocoa Samoa

@ianschroth6575

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. At the good old Eddie Graham Sports Center. Saw some great concerts in that old metal barn too.

These thumbnails kill me. I’d buy an office desk calendar of them. May be some licensing issues though.

"Go to the back of the promo line and when you come back you're a fucking Earthling."

Danny Davis will always be a true badass. He never took any guff.

Getting trained by Dr.Tom now. Dude is amazing! His knowledge is never ending and he really does care about you and the business. eve when he is screaming instructions it doesn't feel like he is pissed off just trying to guide you through it.

@alanrudy2546

2 жыл бұрын

i know Im asking the wrong place but does someone know a method to log back into an Instagram account? I was stupid lost the account password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me!

@omarifinn9987

2 жыл бұрын

@Alan Rudy instablaster ;)

Doesn't hurt that there are no state taxes in Florida. That is why so many retirees live there. It also allows companies to skip out on paying state taxes.

@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats

3 жыл бұрын

Taxation is theft

@manuelper

3 жыл бұрын

Not just companies dude, residents. This is why I live in Florida.

Jim is making this quarantine more bearable for me .... Thank You Brian too.

I used to tape OVW when i was like 10 (it was on satellite @ like 2am,) & watch it in the morning having breakfast before school it was awesome LOL

Please, go hit one of these fake backstabber with your tennis racket. Most of all, thank you for remaining faithful. You will always be one of my personal favorites.

John Laurinaitis, a man who wanted full control but who didn't want responsibility. Surely many of us at one point or another knew somebody like John Laurinaitis.

@JaculaDudek

2 жыл бұрын

... so pretty much like a woman XD

Despite Cornette's valid points I hope for a WWE OVW documentary in the future. Hearing Jim's reactions to it alone would be golden XD.

@walsh9080

4 жыл бұрын

Same here. I've wanted that for a while. I only caught OVW toward the end of their relationship with WWE (I watched FCW though). Wouldn't mind seeing WWE make a documentary on OVW, that's appealing to me. Although I reckon Corny would be invited to appear on an OVW documentary. He was on the Ruthless Aggression documentary talking about OVW and like Corny said he's happy to do stuff with WWE because he always loved how the production staff operate (in fact he loved it so much when he did the HOF they let him into the production truck because they knew it would make him happy, Corny himself said McMahon let him because McMahon knew he'd like that and Vince wasn't wrong Corny said it was like heaven to see professional production staff that know what they're doing because he hasn't seen that since he left WWE) he just couldn't be paid enough to work there full time again.

@thehandoftheking3314

4 жыл бұрын

God no. Can you imagine the propaganda it would be?

@SensiofRabbitude

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if we'll be able to get better documentaries when either Vince passes on or WWE is sold? Probably not because if he died, they'd be insistent on protecting his legacy by preserving the history of wrestling from his viewpoint. If the WWE was sold the new owners would want to protect their investment by maintaining that 'the WWE was the good guy' historical narrative.

@13JacksonMr

2 жыл бұрын

Well, we got some of it about a year later

@fayezfawzi3255

Жыл бұрын

@@13JacksonMr an OVW documentary? I don't recall seeing one.

Laurinaitis is a certified YES man who wished he had half the talent of other wrestlers have. Cornie is the MAN.

@shockjockey5036

4 жыл бұрын

He helped alot of ppl become famous and ruined a lot of others

i loved OVW back in the Davis arena. i didn't even know they were a developmental, for me, it was on par with ROH back in the 02-04 when both were on top of the wrestling in US

Now NXT is kinda what OVW used to be but times 100 and it's a promotion, a brand, a developmental territory and a wrestling school all in one. It even has its own developmental territory, NXT UK, and a few feeding tetritories like Evolve and Progress officially and Impact and ROH unofficially. I call ROH and Impact feeding territories because in the past 6 years a lot of their stars have eventually signed with WWE and it might not be a coincidence.

@thelinedrive

4 жыл бұрын

Well that’s because Gabe Sapolskei ran ROH and now works Evolve and NXT. So direct connections make it easy.

@djzero5893

4 жыл бұрын

Not really, at least NXT after 2016. NXT's has gone down hill creatively since Dusty Rhodes and the main writer got promoted. Never mind talent has seemingly ceased evolving for the most part just like with Raw and SmackDown. Too much of NXT has become bad booking propped up by work rate. NXT is still the assembly line of talent they wanted with FCW just with a bigger investment and more people already assembled from their plundering the Indies. Triple H creating his own NXT territory system hasn't really worked out yet.

@thelinedrive

4 жыл бұрын

Bubba Sawyer If they make Dijak a main eventer I’ll give them credit for that given his short comings as a promo. The Street Profits are a success, Bel Air is a success, Ripley is a success, 3/4 of the two groups of the four horsewomen. Zayn you could make the argument of being an NXT creation given everything he’s done has been almost completely separated from his El Generico history. Dream, Gargano and Ciampa together has built them higher than they ever were on the indies, AOP would be a success if not for health issues. Just those off the top of my head.

@anxofernandez3344

4 жыл бұрын

@Bubba Sawyer I disagree. Charlotte is a WWE product, Becky Lynch had left the industry for a while before she tried with WWE, Bailey and Sasha were in the independents for a cup of coffee but their personas, their style and everything is a result of their time in WWE. Alexa Bliss is another case of 100% home grown talent. AOP have had their health issues but they willk succeed. The Street Profits are a hit. Big E came through the system as well. Bray Wyatt is probably the best that came from NXT. Braun Strowman is another guy in the periphery of the main event that came from NXT. Sami Zayn is the opposite from El Generico. Velveteen Dream also was in the indy scene for a cup of coffee and not with this gimmick. Bianca Belair is another succes story. Baron Corbin had no previous experience and now he's a solid midcarder (who btw was getting over during the Kinh of the Ring tournament).

@anxofernandez3344

4 жыл бұрын

@Bubba Sawyer however, it's true that they use talent from other promotions, which I don't see why it'd be wrong because everyone does it and has always done it. Undertaker, Austin, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and many others were originally from WCW. Hogan, Piper Savage...they weren't always WWF guys.

Goes to show WWE does not want any individual wrestler to be above the company.

The way Jim describes the way Lauranitis treating him & OVW is legit infuriating. We've all been disrespected in some similar fashion before and it's just the worst.

I remember the night where I got to watch John Cena tear the house down on a house show match with the hot newcomer Chauncey Blubbershit. Still have the program to this day.

“I love ya Tommy, but you’re a shitty booker” Pure gold

A fun listen. Basically jim explains why and how big john messed with him during ovw. probably gonna listen again in a year so

I find it hard to believe that a documentary about WWE, made by WWE would be anything other than 110% accurate and honest ;-)

Jim and Brian on a roll 🎲

The biggest problems with wrestling today is 1 the standard of the booking 2 the Internet no kafaybe anymore 3 there's only 1 major production really just now AEW just gathering momentum 4 the wrong people in charge of wrestling development, until this is all sorted wrestling viewing figures and the standard of the wrestling will continue to drop

1:06:19 Goddamn. After all these years, I'm now a John Cena fan. I always figured he was only a nice guy because of the Make A Wish deal. Great to see l was wrong.

@crowns9966

4 жыл бұрын

He is legit a great dude is not his fault that he got a superman push, he was only doing his job

@spencer2745

4 жыл бұрын

He's not a great wrestler but he's a good dude

@jamalwashington7831

4 жыл бұрын

So you're admitting to being a sheep. You went with what people said years ago. Now you're going with what Corny said. Have a mind of your own, dude.

@jonahtexhex2835

4 жыл бұрын

A good guy; but like everyone else has the same good days & shitty days. The way things go.

@davidharrison9893

4 жыл бұрын

What happened?

Wwe needs the indies to be in business as this is how they get the starts of tomorrow. Wwe raided the territories for the guys that made them so popular back in the 80’s but without those territories wwe lack the ability to make a good worker a legend, they haven’t got the same pool to choose talent from. Wwe has cut its own throat and will starve to death now

@EmmaBonn96

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not so much just taking from the indies but taking the top In the 80s Vince got all of the AWAs Mid Card but left their main eventers to grow old and dull and kill that territory If you take the top guys when they’re done you create a replenishing fountain of talent

@GangstaSparkleFairy

3 жыл бұрын

Good god, everyone heralding the death of the WWE...you people are fools. It's the only big promotion, publicly traded, with decades of history and loyal fans that wont abandon it...there will be no death, just years of stale and uninspired product.

@Matt-cr4vv

2 жыл бұрын

I get not liking creative. But how do people genuinely think WWE is on its death bed when it just reported it's most profitable year ever.

I saw a lot of OVW shows during the time Jim was running it, in London, Ky at the Armory and I always thoroughly enjoyed them.

Chauncey Blubbershits 🤣

Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!🙌🐐🐐

OVW should never have sold their library to the WWE.

@DarksaberForce

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine watching their library on KZread like Smokey Mountain Wrestling right now.

Unrelated - can we get Cornette to do a long-form review of "Tiger King" on Netflix?

@youngmedi8447

4 жыл бұрын

Haven’t seen tiger king yet would you recommend the show or no

@jackjenson3881

4 жыл бұрын

Young Medi it’s a trip

@Paducahrus

4 жыл бұрын

@@youngmedi8447 Absolutely

Why am I imagining Paul Heyman giving Bianca Belair her ponytail patent?!!

@MaestroJericho

4 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, I could imagine them getting her back in those days and just wasting all that talent, since she didn't have a wrestling background afaik

Kim has my respect for respecting the wrestling business. It should be taken seriously not as a flip show

Vince would sacrifice every single talent that went through FCW for the early 2000s OVW class in their primes.

@bigroaststyrone8135

4 жыл бұрын

You’re giving Vince too much credit lmao

@user-yf4gx9lw6c

4 жыл бұрын

DJ Zero he still does now half the time. Batista,Cena and Orton still get pushes over newer guys and Brock is wwe champion.

And you wonder why CM Punk buried Laurinatis when he had the chance.

I thought the FCW documentary was pretty good, but listening to this was way more enjoyable. One of the most Interesting segments I've ever heard on this show. Great stuff

@shutterbuggfan

4 жыл бұрын

Let's put it this way, it's probably why WWE did not want Jim cornette's views on this, because he would not hold his tongue and tell the truth.

@walsh9080

4 жыл бұрын

@@shutterbuggfan They've had him speaking about OVW on the Ruthless Aggression documentary series. Cornette has said repeatedly for all his problems with WWE, he loves the production stuff just because it's top quality professionally made. He said he would do it again but he wouldn't work for WWE full time again.

@shutterbuggfan

3 жыл бұрын

@@walsh9080 This is true.

@shutterbuggfan

3 жыл бұрын

@777killad there nothing wrong with my comment,

Have you noticed yet that the only ones who come up from WWE developmental who eventually become stars on the main roster only did so once they felt their backs were against the wall and said to themselves, "F*** it, I'm going rogue and doing this my way" after feeling like their time was running out? People like Becky Lynch, Bray Wyatt, Daniel Bryan, Bayley, and- most recently -Matt Riddle. Each of these performers broke protocol in some form or another and took control of their own fates by bypassing the front office altogether and appealing to WWE fans directly. The WWE offices didn't want some loudmouth Irish chick coming along and outshining Ronda Rousey after the king's ransom they signed her to. The front office didn't want a UFC washout openly discussing his pot smoking habit, and publicly challenging their most valuable commodity, Brock Lesnar, to a retirement match. They didn't want Bayley turning heel because they didn't want to lose their childrens' merchandising goldmine. Nor did they want someone who wasn't your typical WWE 'body guy' introducing a terrifying new horror character as a commentary on WWE's current kid friendly programming with a warped, perverse incarnation of Mr. Rogers. And they especially didn't want some 5'8", 185 lbs guy who'd made his name by wrestling all around the world for independent promotions becoming WWE World Champion, thus becoming the face of the company in the process. WWE management wanted none these things to happen yet they did, and it's ultimately been how they got over on the main roster finally.

@Matt-cr4vv

2 жыл бұрын

That kinda seems to be how every big star became a big star. Think of the ownership Stone Cold took of his character etc.

Chauncey Blubbershit 😂😂😂

Back then it was called Bright House Sports Network you're right Jim cornette

"HERE COMES SEAMON." Lol

If Jim Cornette ever wrote a tell-all book about his time in WWF/E/OVW I'd be all over it

I'm imagining this scenario happening on a regular basis: Brian: "Gee, Jim, we don't really have anything to talk about for the podcast this week. How are we going to fill a couple of hours?" Jim: "I don't know. There must be something we can talk about!" Brian: "John Laurinaitis" Jim: "That no good son of a ...." :::3 hours later::: Brian: "OK, we're good." Jim: "I'm just getting started!"

I've never understood WWE's love of the business and tv and "real sports" people. I'm not saying it to knock them, I'm sure they're all extremely talented in their field. The problem is that they're being valued so highly in not their field. This would be like if you had a barbershop and you wouldn't hire anyone unless they were a certified electrician. Sure, he may be shit at cutting hair, but your lights are always running and you need to be able to see to cut hair! Except now everyone hates your barbershop because the hair cuts suck and a prodigious beach volleyball career does not qualify you to teach people to wrestle.

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

That’s the worst analogy I have ever heard

@jordan_8329

4 жыл бұрын

@@1882Stu its not far off considering several ppl over the years in wcw or wwe went from sales/tv production/magazine writing and various other fields related to pro wrestling only in a fringe way right into having high level say so in creating angles or deciding who would get a push

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Gathany it is far off. A ridiculous analogy.

@jordan_8329

4 жыл бұрын

@@1882Stu the point is that its not more ridiculous than the ACTUAL stories of ppl coming in to WCW or WWE from various jobs having nothing to do with wrestling and then having say so in who's careers would get a push or how they should be portrayed on tv.

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Gathany so you can only get a job in the industry if you’re already in the industry ? That doesn’t make sense 😂

Two takeouts from this: 1) Gotta give Cena props for going into bat for Danny Davis. The only other two I can think of that might have are Lesnar and Austin. Lesnar probably wouldn't have on second thought, and even if he would have he likely couldn't have as he was out of WWE by then and even if he'd still been there he by all accounts didn't have anywhere near the relationship with Vince that Cena had begun to have by that point the first time around. And Austin of course was pretty much out of the business. 2) There will never be anything like OVW again. Ever. Next time you wonder why WWE brings back old stars for a pop, blame Clubfoot Lauranitis. His appointnent was clearly the beginning of the end for WWE. There's clearly something to be said for the old school guys and old school pro wrestling. As say what you want about Corny, but no one can say he doesn't know wrestling. Thank you Jim Cornette for telling us the truth.

I grew up my first wrestling was The Nightmares Kenny Wayne and Danny Davis! Continental wrestling was my first. I think they worked in Florence AL, also dennis Condrey went to school with my dad in Central AL. So I think me and Jim are kind of same minded, henceforth why I think Jim should be the King of America!

I never clicked so fast for something

I feel Jim is the only wrestling mind that can bring back old school wrestling as a new promotion as an alternative to wwe. Too bad noone sees it the way he does. Such a smart mind for the business

Jeez, Laurinaitis destroyed the developmental system in the late 2000s.

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

jakeinator722 fcw was a massive success

@antman1001000

4 жыл бұрын

cobedizzle What were some of the big stars it created?

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

antman1001000 Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt, Seth Rollins, sheamus,, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler, Dean Ambrose, Drew Macintyre, Jack Swagger... shall I go on?

@antman1001000

4 жыл бұрын

cobedizzle Sheamus was already a wrestler for 5 years before FCW. Ambrose was already a big Indi Wrestler for 7 years before FCW. Seth was in RoH a much bigger promotion than FCW way before then and made a name for himself. Kofi went to Deep-South and OVW first not FCW do some research. Ziggler began in OVW and was already in the WWE Roster before FCW. Drew was in the Indis for 8 years and shortly in the main roster before FCW that only lasted a year. I'll give you Wyatt and Roman since they really started there. Swagger began in Deep-South then went to OVW. So to sum it up three on your list were by your own definition OVW stars before going to FCW or just never went there. While everyone else except Wyatt and Roman had at least half a decade of experience before FCW so that promotion never made them. Meanwhile guys like Cena, Orton, Lesnar, and Batista all went there either at the beginning of their career or only had a year or two of time before being trained at OVW so they were proper homegrown talent.

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

antman1001000 no. Everyone I mentioned was developed in FCW. The development territory.

anyone know why wwe doesn't have all ovw library but some matches? jim talked about a few great shows they put on and was curious to find em.

"John C. Blubbershit" 😂😂

The little I saw from OVW, with Finlay and Punk and Beth and ODB, I liked it. It was more believable than the WWE. And women took part in the same type of matches as men, which is something that the WWE has only done recently. I think it was Beth who broke a ladder when someone threw her to the outside. And I got to see a trouser malfunction, which revealed a sexy black G-string. But yeah, it was pretty damn sweet.

Corny and Davis gave the wwe the last superstars they had, they (wwe) have disappeared since that ended and wwe don’t seem any closer to waking up from the coma!

@Matt-cr4vv

2 жыл бұрын

If signing billion dollar rights deals and reporting the highest profitability they've ever had is disappearing than I think they're cool with that.

I only got two hours left of work and a good majority of that time I'm going to be listening to Jim cornette. It doesn't get no better than that... Other than being home not working drinking a beer while listening to Jim cornette.

How in the hell does John Laurinitas still have a high ranking job? Madness...he literally makes anything he touches worse.

I love how much cornette love the business

Tell me who cant hear Paul Heyman in this rant?

1:06:19 Cena going to bat for Danny Davis. Good dude.

1:06:19 Prime example of why John Cena deserves way more respect.

@al112v4

Жыл бұрын

Burying talent screams respect to you?

@azapro911

Жыл бұрын

And what talent would that be?

That's a cool story about John Cena going to McMahon about Danny Davis. Stand up move.

And now FCW is NXT 2.0..But that's what became of WWF after the get the F out,ruthless aggression era..To really push the SPORTS ENTERTAINER THING..So FCW produces..the bellas,Kofi and Naomi & Cameron that went through ridiculous and very stereotypical characters..Of Vince hates the term wrestler, and big John and Prichard The Bitchard are members of his Kiss My Ass Club..

Poor old Danny Davis...

I never understood the Batista hate. He praised Cornette in his first WWE documentary. Just seems that jim was only told about the books statement

@fayezfawzi3255

4 жыл бұрын

link to him praising Cornette? never heard that one. What documentary was it?

@90sctv

4 жыл бұрын

Fayez Fawzi it’s not on KZread but it’s the “I walk alone” wwe video on Batistas life

William regal & Dean Ambrose only memorable matches feud on the pre nxt

Everytime i see this screen shot, i think i would love to see a Cornette cartoon similar to Mike Tyson Mysteries 😆 😆

@AWX_Wrestling

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Cornette Wrestling Mysteries.

Lol! Chauncey Blubbershit, best alias ever!

When you come back in this room you’re an earthling LOL

Cornette did phenomenal work with OVW.

I cant imagine that Chauncey Blubbershits wasnt a great gimmick...

They were on Brighthouse Networks which was about local high school sports and news. Hell I was on it more than FCW haha

All of a sudden you’ve got someone putting words in your mouth - you can’t do that. The writers are taking the business from the boys, and that’s what the problem with creative is. They’ve got to give the business back to the damn boys. When you got a guy who’s been in the business three, six, eight, ten, or fifteen years, it doesn’t matter. Asking a damned writer what he’s supposed to say? There’s a problem.

Back in the 70's, you got your experience with live matches, on Saturday nights, made $50 in wwa drove home at 2AM with 4 guys in a shot box Ford with 112,mil on it🤑

@immortalmp1720

4 жыл бұрын

And the fans either left very happy or ready to murder the top heel.

@paulsydenham7853

4 жыл бұрын

@@immortalmp1720 No HEELS ANYMORE in WWE,AEW Have got The Best HEELS in the Business, Jericho, Jake,and MJF, what more could you ask for?

@erics8018

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulsydenham7853 maybe more then 3 names when one of em is jake the snake lmfao.. Who's he wrestling? His run was 30 years ago. He can cut a promo.. So can paul heyman... Just saying and i don't watch any wrestlinf

@erics8018

4 жыл бұрын

Wrestling****

@aariesharris7894

4 жыл бұрын

Eric S he meant Jake Hager.........

I'm starting to break out. My Lauranitis must be acting up again

Johnny Ace... Wasn’t dynamic as a wrestler. And when you have absolutely no talent, How in the hell can you be put in the position of “Talent Relations”

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

Was Jim Ross a good wrestler?

@jonalbertson10270

4 жыл бұрын

cobedizzle No, But Jim Ross knows the business.. Had an impeccable eye for talent. Don’t try and compare apples to oranges

@1882Stu

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Albertson it’s not. The reason u gave for Ace being no good as TR was the fact he wasn’t a dynamic wrestler.

@jonalbertson10270

4 жыл бұрын

cobedizzle Jim Ross!!! Has TALENT! Mr Dynamic Dude has NO personality! No Talent, Couldn’t recognize talent if it walked up and introduced itself to him. See the broader point, Before speaking and making yourself look like a dumbass troll wanting attention!

The only FCW show, that I can remember; is the one where Moxly and Regal beat the shit out of each other.

@JaculaDudek

2 жыл бұрын

Ambrose vs Rollins feud culminating to a match for a medal that lasted whole episode was also great.

This story in a whole was better than any Russo rant

@planetschlock

4 жыл бұрын

The inside stories behind the WWE's developmental territories throughout the years are endlessly fascinating to me and I have no idea why.

Very very glad Jim explained all this because as an OG OVW fan from Louisville he's filling in the gaps of the behind of the scenes stuff going on. I too did not understand why midcarders in OVW were getting called up before the main eventers who were tearing the house down every Saturday night on TV. Then of course once they were called up they were put into non-sensical gimmicks. The E comes off as a petty vindictive wrestling-hating behemoth which only gives me satisfaction AEW and MLW and NWA are taking back the disgruntled fans who want an alternative.

@boosterkidrg

4 жыл бұрын

Chancellor Karla they are still doing it to this day...Look how they have treated fan favorites in NXT on the main roster...The people they want to push will be pushed such as Alexa Bliss and Baron Corbin...

@bigroaststyrone8135

4 жыл бұрын

The sad thing is a lot of talent used to be able to get over in NXT but then get completely buried on the main roster. There are many examples but a great one I think is the Ascension who were absolutely mismanaged

You wanna feel empowered? Uplifted? To borrow a phrase from Steve Austin, take your ass to church.

I'm not gonna sit here and listen to Jim run down the good name of Chauncey Blubbershit.

To answer Jim's and Brian's question about what original "stars" did nxt create that didn't start in fcw or got plucked from the indies, roh, impact or new Japan Only Big E, Rusev, Braun, Rowan, Alexa, Carmella, Velveteen, and Street Profits come to mind. Other than those people.....everyone was either in fcw first or got plucked from some other well known non promotion or indies.

@VladamireD

4 жыл бұрын

Rusev and Rowan were Indy guys. Rusev was trained by Gangrel.

@walking00dead

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah none of them are over tho lol

@madddoggnogood1491

4 жыл бұрын

@@walking00dead big e, velveteen, alexa and braun are. Rusev was but vince sabotaged him

@Ted_Bell

4 жыл бұрын

The street profits are fucking garbage. More shuck & jive bullshit

@madddoggnogood1491

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ted_Bell on raw yes.....in nxt they're awesome

This is very interesting thanks Jim

Jim is a true American icon!!!

The best way to get a good job from your employees:KEEP IT TRUE TO YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES & don't hire family!🤔😁

@jonahtexhex2835

4 жыл бұрын

Depending upon going back to the territories back in the day if the family members was invested & worked to bring in the money. However family business today in wrestling doesn't work today. Vince, Stephanie, & Paul or Jeff Jarrett & TNA.

Oh, you WISH complimenting VKM's physique was the extent of Johnny Deuce's contributions to the company. He's as much to blame for their inevitable stagnation as their myopic focus on Bald Spot John in lieu of building new stars.

@TheTennesseeFistMachine

4 жыл бұрын

Don't talk like you were there idiot

Listening to Jim Cornett tear into Johnny Ace is a welcomed change. I'm kind of glad the scandal was revealed. If anything, it gave Jim a opportunity to verbally suplex John for our entertainment!

If you put credits on this and added the where there gonna be at the next and meet and greets, but I'm sure I'm not saying anything that jim doesn't already know.

25:22 "don't talk about the Challenger, kid"....one of my favorite Corny stories

What is a Cornette clip without the mention of Louisville or midnight express lmao

HA HA HA! *"Chaunsey Blubbershit."*

Man Cornette needs to just take my money to teach me life lessons, and he could have a 38 and his best toughest wrestler! I need to meet Cornette,