I know that these won't entirely replace electric power, but I love how we finally found a carbon-neutral solution for internal combustion. I love engines, so seeing them have a clean future makes me very happy. Sure, they may not replace electric power entirely, but the two can work together in the world :) ⚙️

Well done jake 👍👍👍. Hydrogen the way forward. Not electric. Don’t know why the car industry doesn’t embrace this tech 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@christopherfairs9095

2 жыл бұрын

I don't believe hydrogen is the way forward for this type of machinery. Battery/electric motors are far more efficient and will become increasingly so as technology evolves. These engines are too complicated compared with an electric motor. The cost of hydrogen as a fuel will be enormous as the process of making, storing and transporting it is inefficient. That's why Toyota is back-tracking on its hydrogen cars with fuel cells. JCB already has some small electric excavators and larger versions of earth moving equipment is made by Volvo and others. Bobcat has taken it a stage further and produced an all-electric version of its well known vehicle, even replacing all the hydraulic system with linear electric actuators. It will be interesting to see what happens in this industry. Of course these hydrogen engines will work, but with increasing battery energy density and decreasing cost per kw hour of output, I think there is only one way this will go in the long term.

@merlin1346

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfairs9095 heat will be the issue for batteries with heavy plant.

@christopherfairs9095

2 жыл бұрын

@@merlin1346 There will obviously be heat generated but they seem to have dealt with that in the battery powered ships and locomotives.

@merlin1346

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfairs9095 battery powered locomotives are still 'experimental' and will consume a vast amount of battery power due to their inherent weight without the power pack. as for ships, they would be literally floating on its own fuel if HOD were used instead of batteries, not something you would want to run out of out at sea either.

@christopherfairs9095

2 жыл бұрын

@@merlin1346 Yes, these locomotives are experimental but battery electric multiple units are more developed and are in use. It would appear to make just as much sense to use them for trains as for cars. They could be recharged by induction at selected sites en route. Battery improvements will give greater range and efficiency but it won't happen overnight. At least the concept is proved.

He sounds like a Bolton lad! This is the future, I'm so happy JCB are doing this. Once they achieve this, everyone will copy and then motorsports comes next and then road cars.

Inspired thinking from JCB. You keep the Diesel engine which is modified to work with Hydrogen fuel, which is brought to the civil engineering site just as diesel currently is. You don’t change a winning combination.

Toyota,honda and other car manufacturing in japan and Europe also developed internal combustion hydrogen engine for the future they say this is solution for anyone love internal combustion engine like car enthusias,reguler user and with Zero emission.but they know about the tank still heavy compare to petrol or diesel car we know,but they say just matter of time for resolve that problem to make compact and light hydrogen tank before they sell hydrogen combustion engine car in 2030

@SharhbiniRauf

Жыл бұрын

Tank size because they still use plastic not yet high pressure metal tank with carbon fiber wraping.

@muhammadnurgosin8486

Жыл бұрын

@@SharhbiniRauf yap that true toyota say give us time

Absolutely superb it’s so good to know someone is working on a proper solution!

Hydrogen is the future.

Any chance ye guys could make a conversion kit from the cylinder head up, for current engine blocks? (Retrofit, to help speed up transition to H) Great work 👍🤗

@LandPowerTV

2 жыл бұрын

That's a good idea. Hopefully we might be doing a follow up story on this, so we'll put it to JCB.

I just want to go broom and make turbo noises without hurting the environment and without killing myself working on my vehicle

Imagine how much longer the oil can stay in the engine. No fuel dilution or carbon fouling will mean that a synthetic oil will last incredibly long. All you'd have to do is just check the level most of the time. The amount of oil burned would be negligible. The real question here is how what kind of efficiency they are able to achieve, the fuel consumption, and the projected running costs now vs. in the future when the industrial production of hydrogen expands.

Amazing ! How hot is the exhaust? With such a lean burn, what are the exhaust valves made from?

Awesome job you guys 👏 👏 👏

Love hydrogen units! Great music too

It does sound very exciting but I wonder how it compares with a diesel in terms of fuel capacity and range.

But what I'd like to know is how long can it run for on a tank and how big is the tank? Given the very low energy density of hydrogen it can't run long at all. If you replace a regular petrol car tank with a same size hydrogen tank you would only get about 50 miles. Also this kind of machinery always has fuel and hydraulic leaks if you can not keep diesel in how can you keep a gas in?

What is price

When we have simple fast hydrolysis of water this could really kick off. Imagine putting water in the tank, it gets split, it fuels an engine like this which generates the electricity to drive the motors on each wheel etc. Super efficient. Imagine a air craft doing this!! Amazing.

@christopherfairs9095

Жыл бұрын

But it's not super efficient, It takes a lot of electricity to make hydrogen, then compress it (more energy), transport it (yet more energy) and put it through an internal combustion engine (very inefficient). It will work but super efficient is not a phrase I would ascribe to the process.

@lazynow1

Жыл бұрын

Ok turd burglar

@priyanksaklani8176

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherfairs9095 Hydrogen is most energy dense fuel out there so you don't need to make or transport that much. Also if you are interested look into red hydrogen. Japanese scientist's have demonstrated a way to use the thermal heat of nuclear power plants to generate electricity and produce hydrogen. Heavy duty vehicles, planes, ships and even buses are better suited to hydrogen ice technology.

@christopherfairs9095

Жыл бұрын

@@priyanksaklani8176 Hydrogen has the highest energy content of any common fuel by weight (about three times more than petrol), but it has a low energy content by volume (about four times less than petroleum).

Cummins is doing something similar.

I don't agree with JCB's idea because, there are several reasons why EVs are becoming less complex and more environmentally friendly. Firstly, the development of carbon batteries is a notable example of this trend. Carbon batteries are less hazardous to the environment compared to traditional battery types such as lead-acid, lithium-ion, and LiFePO4 batteries. However, it's important to note that carbon batteries are just one of many emerging technologies poised to replace these conventional battery types. Secondly, the shift from permanent magnet synchronous motors, (PMSM) to switched reluctance synchronous motors (SRSM) and externally excited synchronous motors eliminates the need for rare earth metals in motor production. This advancement in motor technology reduces complexity and addresses concerns regarding the availability and environmental impact of rare earth metals. Thirdly, EVs have made significant progress in regenerative braking technology. This technology allows EVs to capture and store energy during deceleration and braking, thereby saving energy that would otherwise be wasted. In contrast, internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles lack the capability to develop such a function in the near future, putting EVs at an advantage in terms of energy efficiency. Moreover, when comparing the efficiency of converting energy from the source to the wheels, EVs outperform hydrogen-powered ICE vehicles by a wide margin. EVs achieve an impressive 80% efficiency in this conversion process, whereas hydrogen ICE vehicles struggle to reach 20%. This stark contrast arises from the fact that electrolyzers, which produce hydrogen, have an efficiency of approximately 45%, and hydrogen ICE engines can achieve around 40% efficiency under ideal conditions. Finally, it's worth mentioning that the infrastructure required for transportation and dispensing of hydrogen is separate and distinct from that of EVs. This creates additional challenges and investments for the widespread adoption of hydrogen-powered vehicles. Considering these points, I find that the arguments presented in the video do not substantiate themselves adequately.

@TheAlexagius

5 ай бұрын

The discovery of large white hydrogen deposits does change the landscape, it makes a heck of a lot more sense if we can pump it out of the ground like oil.

Why is no one talking about this?

👍👍❤️ jiuuuu❤️❤️❤️

Its fuel cell . Or combution engine . Thnx

@Farmer.things

Жыл бұрын

Internal combustion engine

I didnt get an answer to my question I posted on your other video so I will just repeat the question. Why has JCB gone for on site Hydrogen storage tanks (with its carbon footprint...) rather than Hydrogen On Demand (HOD) as developed by the great Stanley Myers, or is it politics?

@LandPowerTV

2 жыл бұрын

That's a very good question. At present, it sounds as though the company is still weighing up a lot of options and it would not surprise me if a hydrogen on demand version will be looked at. It's certainly something I want to discuss further with them the next time I'm out with JCB.

@youhen01

2 жыл бұрын

HOD probably cuts out business from making extra money.

@merlin1346

2 жыл бұрын

@@youhen01 So true, and yet the whole idea was based on reducing CO2 emissions, who is fooling who? Their money making schemes may soon draw to a close once more people are aware of this... kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnZk2bKOnb2oY7g.html

@pauldatche8410

Жыл бұрын

So, the lubrication seems to enjoy a cleaner longer life, like if it was a car, it'd do how many km between recharges/changes, 50,000km? Before the stuff gets gooey enough to completely replace? Sounds very very interesting. The other question, would be, compared to oil, what is the round trip energy efficiency of the hydrogen driven ICE? Thirdly, compared to the new Li Ion and Sodium Sulphur technologies which seem headed to maturity in the near future, how does hydrogen stack up? Is it a more cost effective solution compared to pure electric? I am aware that efficiency of electric motors are way above 90% while the 4-stroke motor stays on around 35% for the best engines...

@merlin1346

Жыл бұрын

@@pauldatche8410 Not sure I understand what you mean, but the JCB runs purely on Hydrogen gas (no batteries involved only to start the ice) so not sure what you mean about the "gooey stuff".

I won't hydrogen car