Thanks, for showing off all these boats.

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

You bet!

I reckon that flow is a winner, simple, but clearly refined. If this is the start of the next generation of boats it's going to be awesome!

@gemmawatson6100

10 ай бұрын

And I am NEVER enthusiastic about Jackson boats....

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

Yeah seem way more polished

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

I had a few karma UL Nirvana Antix and mixmaster

@wildcard7799

10 ай бұрын

Just saw one in person and agree it looks like a winner. Seems like a perfect winter boat for more casual boaters who never run more than class 4. Also, great boat to teach beginners how to edge and do the basics without being too much of a barge to inhibit learning (like the zen 3 was).

@gemmawatson6100

10 ай бұрын

@@wildcard7799 Will be ages till we see any down here, but I am tempted to put in an order...

Interesting to see next to my current boat. This Flow really has my attention and I’m looking forward to demoing one at some point. Only concern is the comments I’ve seen about the low knee position. I’m really curious about your thoughts on overall feel for a novice/intermediate boater, so I’m looking forward to your on water review.

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

It’s just what they seem to do is have the knees lower than most boats out there

@chrispaine2265

10 ай бұрын

@@WadeHarrison Do you consider the Z3 to have low knees as well? I’ve only paddled it and the Code. I was assuming they were more standard upright position, perhaps not. They both seemed okay to me. Not sure how they compare to others.

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

It not bad really about the same as this one

I want to see this compared to the Soul Hammer

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

Will see if can get both

Interested in a boat like this and wondering how the flow is different than the small gnarvana? The specs and profile are so similar. Any thoughts? Probably a win with either boat …

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

There will be a comparison of those 2 uploaded

@channel.285

10 ай бұрын

Awesome - thanks for all the great ww kayak content Wade!

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

that would be interesting

The cockpit area looks just different to me, I don't know if it is camera or what , looks more cramped , just the high edge on the top

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

JK has a tighter outfitting setup I don't think it's very cramped outside the knee height and that what you might be seeing

@FeWolf

10 ай бұрын

@@WadeHarrison it is the area around the cockpit rim, it looks built up from the normal JKs, will be interesting, you know me, kayak design is always interesting to me

Looks like great beginner boat/spice up your local 5+ if your initials are DJ, otherwise why would you choose this over a hall slice? Bummer to hear JK went back to their lame knee height position, seemed like after EJ got fired they had a brief moment where they saw the light, Gnar/Rockstar V have great knee height/position.

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the whole EJ "fired/ask to leave" and now doing his own boats to compete against his old brand with his name on the side is something I find very interesting to say the least? I don't feel this boat is crazy low in the knees, but it feels lower than what I'm used to.

@mikecatura6210

10 ай бұрын

Is the knee position as bad as the nirvana?

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

would not say it's bad buts it right there with the NIR

@danejacksonkayak

10 ай бұрын

The knees are lower than boats like the Scorch as our boats are traditionally, but it's far from the Nirvana or our lower knee boats in the past, still plenty of space to be comfortable. Had a 220lb 6.2 paddler get in the medium on the Moose comfortably. @@mikecatura6210

I’m not a fan of how low the knees sit, I’m probably just spoiled from the generous knee room in my scorch

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's something JK has done a lot on their boats, and I agree I like the more vertical natural knees position...

@wildcard7799

10 ай бұрын

I had an issue with comfort in some jackson boats until I realized that adding some cheap thigh lifter foam would basically relieve it all.

@followingrj

10 ай бұрын

@@wildcard7799 I wouldn’t say it’s much of a comfort issue on my part but more of a preference issue. Jackson decks tends to sit lower which causes legs to butterfly while other manufacturers like pyranha for instance have a more vertical natural fit. Just my preference though

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

Exactly agree I don't feel it's bad thing I have paddled both a lot and you get used to it after awhile

Man that flows the worst thing I've ever seen in my entire life. The boat no one was asking for, how much more fun is this hunk o junk gonna be than the gnarvana? If you want a more playful boat you can basically creek in but aren't worried about running huge stuff, why wouldn't you just get a half slice? They should have made a Gnarvana X - 10'3", 113 gallons, wide as hell for us beef eatin' Montana jabronies.

@WadeHarrison

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think it looks bad and i think it’s more of a modern Zen3 did they need it with the gnar in the line up well that’s a good question? but do agree with you that the newer HalfSlices are pretty much the sporty creekers.

@BackGan9

10 ай бұрын

@@WadeHarrison yeah I think it's gonna be the boat some people are looking for, I was just hoping they were gonna release some sort of Scorch-x spin on the Gnar ... maybe one day - could you imagine it, 29" wide, 113 gallons, 10'3, man it'd be beautiful.

@opcfoundationtac

10 ай бұрын

Its a replacement for the z3. I would think many people are looking for that.

@BackGan9

10 ай бұрын

@@opcfoundationtac People would have had to buy the zen 3 in the first place to replace it! ive only ever seen one guy using a zen 3 on a river and man i bet he’d buy a gnar X if they made one… Look how the team guys talk about it now that its out of their line up!

@opcfoundationtac

10 ай бұрын

@@BackGan9 i dont paddle big enough water for a gnar x. I had a z3 but traded for a machno because the z3 was too wide/barge like