Almost every Chelsea player back then was the captain of his national team, they were powerful players in different aspects.

Look how animated Martin is getting I think Talksport is onto something here. They should get John Obi Mikel and Martin in at the same time on the show..😅

@latergator915

7 ай бұрын

Give him a break

The most shocking thing about this video is simon being quiet

@adnanoomaar5226

7 ай бұрын

He understands this is an outdated method of media communication….. the media wants transparency and honesty from players; when a player like john obi does that, then they try to embarrass him and use his words against him. Such an outdated boring style, whoever came up with this idea needs to retire

@jmc531

7 ай бұрын

​@user-tn8uu2cu8g😂 You're not supposed to take all of that nonsense seriously!

@natty.roots.423

7 ай бұрын

"SILENT AGREEMENT "

@ninobrownish

7 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!

@Princek202

6 ай бұрын

Simon knows Obi was right!!

Why are people surprised at this. We all know chelsea players had the power back then. Why is everyone shocked 😂

@hfwwf

7 ай бұрын

The shock is in it being talked about so brazenly. Sorry if you missed the brief there.

@davidstephenson164

7 ай бұрын

​@@hfwwf At least he's honest... And it's not as if they created a toxic atmosphere like you see in a lot of clubs these days i.e Man United. They were serial winners and would only accept a manager that met the criteria. Managers are replaceable. JT, Lampard, Drogba, Cech, Ashley Cole etc weren't.

@hfwwf

7 ай бұрын

@@davidstephenson164 Exactly, I appreciate the honesty, it pushes the conversation forward.

@davidstephenson164

7 ай бұрын

@@hfwwf fair do's mate

@imgettingold9407

7 ай бұрын

​@@davidstephenson164agreed... they only cared about winning and having fun

Those lads were beasts at Chelsea so they naturally had power and Mourinho gave them enormous power that when he left they coulf not be managed with weak managers..

@dermotwallace5533

7 ай бұрын

💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

@timilehinkolade5088

7 ай бұрын

Very true

@macteetv3508

7 ай бұрын

Yeah right, these are players are high calibers and well proven that whenever there’s a problem, most of the time we know it’s the coach

It’s not just the regular player power. It’s JT, the captain, Drogba, Lampard, Cech and the likes that we’re talking about. Those players bleed blue and actually are on speaking terms with Abramovich. If Abramovich can’t trust them, who have been at the club for almost 10 years at that time, who else would he trust? That group of players stayed together and had seen managers come and go, but they were still there. If they say something isn’t right, Abramovich would 100% follow them than the manager who has been there for a few months.

@lloydwaycott8178

7 ай бұрын

Those players were absolute sc*m. They held their own fans in contempt.

@cfcCornflakes

7 ай бұрын

@@lloydwaycott8178what consempt? Those players Are responsible for making one of the most succesfull Club the last 20-15 years.

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

lampard and terry in management now i bet they wouldn't stand for taking over a team who's players had more power than they do

@lloydwaycott8178

7 ай бұрын

@@cfcCornflakes Oh don't worry Chris, I didn't expect you to understand.

@libby4608

7 ай бұрын

They were that powerful why was Benitez appointed in the first place if they hated him that much?

Martin O'Neal was really furious😂😂😂

@michaelwallden7261

7 ай бұрын

seems U dont know much what furious is about

@jetarty4196

7 ай бұрын

Martin has never managed a big club. He doesn't 'get' the top end.@@michaelwallden7261

@MisterPete3

7 ай бұрын

He was offended for sure

@BabsW

7 ай бұрын

O'Neil*

@KennedyNik

7 ай бұрын

​@@BabsWO'Neill* 😉

Jim white egging people on to say controversial stuff then reusing it to hurt the player reputation. He really is bottom of the barrel … anything to spin a story

@pobj6723

7 ай бұрын

He's soooo bad

@beefsuprem0241

7 ай бұрын

The man can make a meal out of a Pot Noodle

“His job is to play, regardless if he likes the manager or not” In any other situation I’d agree, but Rafa was a terrible appointment. If they changed managers all the time and still won it all, it means the players were the real talent, not the manager.

@timmurray2945

7 ай бұрын

Rafa steered them to a 3rd place finish and a Europa league trophy when they were in disarray despite only taking the job on an interim basis. Yeah, terrible appointment.

@imgettingold9407

7 ай бұрын

Agreed... even rafa won

@livinusokoz306

7 ай бұрын

@@timmurray2945 winning is sometimes not everything

@macmillaneze5207

7 ай бұрын

​@@livinusokoz306at Chelsea it is!!!

@tonyfernandezCFC87

6 ай бұрын

I still remember what JT said to him about the dressing room bust up something along the lines of its acceptable at liverpool FC but this is Chelsea ... Captain - Leader - Legend

Players power is very much present in the modern game. The Ronaldo, Messi, Neyma, Kylian Mbape, Benzema etc have that much power in today’s game. Chelsea hiring Benitez was a wrong appointment from day one. Neither the fans nor the players wanted him and it’s obvious it was never going to work. The owner and top management team of Chelsea are to be blamed for it. Those set of Chelsea players have that much power. They practically set the club on auto mode hence, any manager can come in and still win trophies. The fact that they won the champions league with a non proven manager says how much of a force the players were. Whatever they did to Benitez, he deserves it. It was a wrong appointment from day 1. It made both fans and players furious. Ofcos, being a manager, I don’t expect Mr Martin O’Niel to say otherwise. It’s what it is!

This is exactly the content we want emotion realness. Shout out martin O'Neil he had receipts 😂

Martin O'Neal "THERE IS NO PLAYER POWER" Also "I KEPT TABS ON ALL THE PEOPLE THAT OVERTHREW ME AND I KNOW EVERY CLUB THEY ARE AT"

Chelsea was a beast of a club and unique with the leadership. No one messed with Roman and had relationships with the players through JT Lamps Cech etc When a coach can only survive one or two seasons a time and many key players stayed long than 7/8 years then that had to be the leadership system and it worked. The domination and success was Roman constantly changing coach’s but keeping the key players. Roman was probably one of the only owners who had real football knowledge who was involved in all aspects of the club through Buck and Marina.

@smallarmskepa4390

7 ай бұрын

Eh I think you’re wrong

@Surveillance-Ys

7 ай бұрын

Chelsea nothing without oligarch lottery. That's how their foundation was built.

@bluecarefreeforever

7 ай бұрын

@@Surveillance-Ys Abramovich were probably the first of the new breeds of billionaires with personal investment and love of football. He is a winner and had the money of course but all the top teams are now copying this with Americans and Saudis etc. Chelsea had already built the club up to regular top 6 from 1995 under Bates. This is the reason why Abramovich recognised the potential at Chelsea much attraction was many famous international players coming to Stamford Bridge before Abramovich..

@Surveillance-Ys

7 ай бұрын

@@bluecarefreeforever incorrect. There was just a top 5. This included teams that had actually won trophies. Chelsea pre 2003 had a handful of trophies. Five with one league title..Notts forest were bigger and more successful. Ra had seen the broadcast money etc and wanted a piece. At the time Chelsea were the easiest and most accessible club. His first transfer windows worth, was equivalent to £700mill today. No one is copying anyone, those who wish to buy a club do so knowing about future income guarantees. You talk about players staying on 😂which is true only because they have sell on value..managers don't, hence he went through 15 of them. I get how delusion doesn't include fact in your emotionally charged rebuttal. But Chelsea are noting without that oligarch lottery in its foundation and that's fact.

@bluecarefreeforever

7 ай бұрын

@@Surveillance-Ys You are incorrect and not following my thread at all!! 🤣🤣 I wasn’t talking about top6 as in size or worth. I was talking about position in the league table. We were in top6 between 1995 to 2002 Although as a result of the success in several cup wins and european success financially during that period Deloitte’s which is far more reliable than you I’m sure 🫣🤣 We we’re 4th largest club in 1998-1999 on the money league. generally it was only Liverpool and Man U who were bigger and before Roman we were generally 7th to 10th under European team like RM Barça Bayern Munich etc. Roman’s time though increased Deloitte’s Money League up to top 4 many years. So clearly both financially before RA and domestic cups and european success and PL table position before RA AND on the Deloitte’s Money League accepted as one of the main measures show how wrong you are and only below likes of Man U Liverpool in UK. Chelsea is one of five clubs to have won all three pre-1999 main European club competitions, and the only club to have won all three major European competitions twice. Sleep tight! 😉🤣🤣

It's amazing how everyone seems to have forgotten that Rafa Benitez finished 3rd in the league, and won the Europa league even though he was only appointed as an interim manager until the end of that season after Di Matteo was sacked, yet people say it was a disaster. What more was he was supposed to do? They were nowhere near challenging for the league title when he came in.

@justjerryblaq5173

7 ай бұрын

No one ever said it was a disaster

@hermityt1663

7 ай бұрын

With that squad, he achieved the bare minimum. Chelsea lost to Swansea in the league cup semi final because he refused to drop Torres. They won the Europa League, yes, but take a look at the opposition. Chelsea weren't just favourites, they were so clear of every other team they came up against. Let's not forget the fact that Benitez also lost the Club World Cup with his awful tactics. I remember it like it was yesterday, Benitez was a terrible appointment. The worst thing Benitez did was refuse to criticise Suarez for biting Ivanovic and lied about Terry by saying he could only play 1 game a week. We saw his true colours. He didn't care about Chelsea, and we didn't want him.

@Al-Gorithm

7 ай бұрын

Shows how good that squad was. They played for themselves.

@Al-Gorithm

7 ай бұрын

​@@hermityt1663i didnt realise we appeared in 3 World Club Cups. Won 2 lost one.

Fans come to see players not managers. Yes we have very colorful and charismatic managers but it's easier to get rid of a manager than players so I get what he is saying.

But that chelsea team won the champions league without a world class coach

@JohnDoe-gx8di

7 ай бұрын

lol great comment summed it up in in one sentence. What other club can sack a manager and then go on to win the biggest club comp out there

@lloydwaycott8178

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, ha ha, by cheating. A bunch of lousy cheats.

@backupdancer3720

7 ай бұрын

@lloydwaycott8178 Chelsea cheated from being 3-1 down against Napoli, before knocking out Barcelona with 10 men in Camp Nou and beating Bayern in their own stadium... Legendary CL run...

@lloydwaycott8178

7 ай бұрын

@@backupdancer3720 Legendary cheating.

@jimedwards9171

7 ай бұрын

@@lloydwaycott8178 who did they cheat against? I'm a west ham fan by the way . They was not gifted the title like Barcelona in 2009. I ask again please give one example of when Chelsea cheated when they won the CL.

I don’t see how you can criticise the Chelsea players tbh, they won everything there was to win. If it didn’t work then sure but it worked and Roman trusted the players and he was right.

@markwood7045

7 ай бұрын

My friend@user-tn8uu2cu8g this is not part of the way... we should not be speaking this way in public forums.

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

they should of won more during that period for the money they were spending, they were the city of that time in terms of spending at one point nobody was even close to them fincially should of won more titles and at least been to more cl finals

@darrylkemp3253

7 ай бұрын

​@@sponish0won more? they were the most successful English club in that time period lol

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

@@darrylkemp3253 no that would be man United.

@darrylkemp3253

7 ай бұрын

@@sponish0 no it was Chelsea go look it up 🤦

Get rid of these old farts that live in the past. Really gets boring. That chelsea team had a solid base due to players who really loved performing for the club. The Trophies speak volumes no matter the manager.

Definitely touched a nerve here, they knew the reaction they'd get...

@markwood7045

7 ай бұрын

Astagfirullah! @user-tn8uu2cu8g

@illyaedwards7188

7 ай бұрын

​@user-tn8uu2cu8gyour getting really annoying, talksport is not for you.

That Chelsea squad had won multiple trophies. So when a new manager is brought in, You can understand that the owners side with the players. Most clubs this isn't the case. If the players have won you multiple trophies of course you'd side them over a manger who's won nothing.If the Manager been there for multiple trophies with different squads then the owners side with him. Its all relative to the situation.

Not preforming because you don’t like the manager is another massive kick in the teeth to the working class fans who have to sit there and watch it, all because childish millionaires are throwing their toys out of the pram

@seasonedbeefs

7 ай бұрын

Smacks of rashford

@rad6666

7 ай бұрын

Don't act surprised, are you that naive?

@tatendacharleszindoga7542

7 ай бұрын

OOOOh please, we all do it at our jobs. When we do not like our boss, we take our time to do things and people can be lethargic. So it is no different.

@XerxesGammon200

7 ай бұрын

​@@tatendacharleszindoga7542So you don't have work ethic?

@seasonedbeefs

7 ай бұрын

@@XerxesGammon200 touche buddy touche

Chelsea created those “player power monsters”. It was the environment fostered right from the top that created that power balance shift to the players. I don’t think it was necessarily something that was consciously grown out of the players characters .

@syedhasan4572

7 ай бұрын

I think it's to do with the time and changing culture. Chelsea core might have pioneered it but I believe it was inevitable. The current generations are disobedient and entitled, hence the inevitability.

Coming from someone who is a victim of what Mikel described. You could feel the hurt while he talked. O’Neal, go and heal 😂😂😂 We don’t mind the player power, provided they deliver results

I don’t think it was a player power problem per se. the core group of players were immense and had the responsibility to carry on that winning ethos Mourinho instilled in them. The problem with Benitez was that he did not communicate with his players. Did not tell them why they were dropped, how they could improve etc. The tipping point was when Rafa was fine with being knocked out of the domestic cup and he was okay with it which is where JT lost it with him. If the manager had the right mentality and direction then the players wouldn’t have a problem. Look at Ancelotti, Gus Hiddink etc

It's called leadership Jim. You should take a leaf out of his book, and grow a backbone to question corrupt organisations like the PGMOL. You forget to mention Chelsea won everything in that period. So get off your eager high horse of 'yes' or 'no' questions, and understand the context of what you are questioning.

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

are you honestly saying the players should try to get managers sacked if he's not playing certain players? the fact so many of you are defending the spoilt footballers blows my mind. They are players they are paid to play ball not play politics and get managers fired. being a leader on the pitch is great they are not paid to be leaders in the club itsself they are paid to kick a ball around

@SC..28

7 ай бұрын

@@sponish0 I guess you take the view that a manager who's performing badly and making poor decisions consistently should remain and not even be questioned by players? You must be a United fan and support ETH then.

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

Am i saying he shouldn't be questioned? no, am i saying its not players jobs to stop trying and get managers sacked, yes. If you honestly think players purposely not trying because the manager isn't doing things how they want i can't help you. Its not players jobs to decides who stays or who doesn't thats the higher management its like a lot of you don't understand players are not there to run football clubs or make business decisions they are there to kick a ball around the decisions are made by those higher up . @@SC..28

It happened to Clough at Leeds United. Well before wages changed and agents were a thing.

@profA927

7 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. The best players always had influence, and always will. O'Neill is off on one here thinking it didn't happen in teams he was in and in teams he's managed.

@rohithraman6488

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't know why Martin O'Neill is shocked cause we all knew Chelsea players had the power in the dressing room. Rafa's time at Chelsea happened during the time Martin was Sunderland manager. JT said on Mikel's podcast that he exploded at Rafa after losing to Man City in the FA Cup because Rafa said "doesn't matter we have another big game next week" and JT said "that's accepted here?"

Most important people are the fans, not the players, players come n go at clubs!!

Martin O’Neill makes it all about him. The issue was what Mikel said about Chelsea.

70% of the chelsea first team and even some important subs were national captains too. They were loyal to the Chelsea course, no coach could bend their will.

Remember they won the UCL after kicking AVB out, I think they just had strong personalities and their manager just had to have a strong personality to manage them.

Martin O'Neill is definitely not to be trifled with. Top manager! He should be managing a top club, instead of being sat there.

@ubedet

7 ай бұрын

Are you joking

@Frank-ii2ug

7 ай бұрын

The game has passed him by. He couldn't handle a dressing room with players today much less the players of ten years ago.

@alanduncan1980

7 ай бұрын

@@Frank-ii2ug you have a wonderful imagination.

@alanduncan1980

7 ай бұрын

@@ubedet he's a lot better than ten Hag. Tactically he's much more clever, plus he has a far better personality, but that's difficult. I think a slug has more personality that that guy.

@Frank-ii2ug

7 ай бұрын

@@alanduncan1980 Pretty sure facts aren't considered imagination in the real world but if it makes you feel better to think Martin can manage in this day and age then by all means have at it. Let us know when he gets hired by a big club. No, actually let us know when he gets hired by ANY club ANYWHERE. I'll be waiting.

In all honesty, there's no human in the world, be it in the corporate world or in the entertainment world, who would give in their best for a boss whom they do not like. So let's stop pretending as if what Mikel said is so shameful to utter. He's being honest, what a lot of people in the media space can never boast of being.

@dondamon4669

7 ай бұрын

What? So you only work to impress your boss because you like him 😂 most pathetic thing I've ever heard especially in football when people are paying money to come and watch them not knowing the players are going to lose on purpose, there should be some kind of fine thrown at them now even

@christusigboekwe9545

7 ай бұрын

@@dondamon4669 call it what you like. Say whatever you think is sensible. But we all know that we wouldn't ever wish to work in a toxic environment... and if the boss is toxic, then he sure will get an atmosphere that is toxic. Peace be unto you

@darrenjohn8524

7 ай бұрын

​​@@dondamon4669Depends if the boss is a budget version of Kim Jong Un🤣🤣.

@langletprolet8378

7 ай бұрын

@@dondamon4669 Maybe they don’t purposefully lose but just can’t go over 100% with their performances because either they just don’t fit the system or the coaching isn’t good enough that leads to more mistakes, etc. or maybe just as simple as not feeling the respect, ie. not given fair chances or rewards based on performances. Could be a lot of factors. Feeling frustrated at the coach because you know you all can be and do better makes sense to me. (Also managers/coaches aren’t exactly the right equivalent to the real boss. The real boss at the top will always be the owners or presidents. Managers are more akin to well, managers or chief of certain branch or division for example. They can get you fired or transferred for sure, but only at the final decision of the real boss at the top who can also just fire the managers if the whole division just doesn’t function as hoped or expected)

The truth of the matter is Chelsea got rid of so many manager it actively undermined the manager’s authority. I am a Chelsea fan, and the landscape changed after mourinho’s sacking (the first one). I really believe players were numbed by the sackings in the end. See how players ran the show under Avram Grant when we reached the final in 2008, or even under Bobby Di Matteo (even though he was respected and one of the lads). I am very much for a player to be happy and well settled in his environment, but not at the detriment of the club and other players. I believe JT was the guardian of what Chelsea represents. But I want a manager who can take charge and have the main say. I thanked Rafa for his work, but he wasn’t the right man.

@imgettingold9407

7 ай бұрын

Detriment? The player power worked. Chelsea kept winning and winning. The core group won them the cl after getting rid of avb

He had Simon clicking through his mind “real madrid??” 🤣🤣

@jmc129

7 ай бұрын

Simon was shook for a moment, had to gather himself 😂

It’s a real shame Martin is now so bitter about his time at Forest. He can’t seem to accept his football was so outdated and we were going nowhere. Maybe that’s why he’s not had a job since?…

@KittySofttpaws

7 ай бұрын

He's like 78? 😂

@Dantheman87

7 ай бұрын

​@@KittySofttpaws🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 give the man a break

@pauloneill914

7 ай бұрын

Which one of the muppets are you?

@christineclarke1513

7 ай бұрын

Simon smirking.

@doromartoski4546

5 ай бұрын

@user-tn8uu2cu8gtake your religious beliefs to a religious video. There’s time & place for that bot.

Why are people shocked at this? It's really mad when you think about it. They're getting millions of dollars, they're the ones actually stepping across the line and representing teams. Nobody cares how much a manager scream, pisses and moans if the players don't do their job literally nothing happens. Respect Mikel for being honest about it, but people getting shocked by it is actually mad if anything it's even more relevant to the game today.

With Martin's current image of the old sage of football, people seem to forget what a bloody terror he was in his playing days. He was a gifted player who took no prisoners himself when required. Don't let his mild demeanour fool you now!

Martin is bang here, John Terry wanna wake up to his past behaviour before trying to get into management

Obi is wrong for his HONESTY??? Secondly, did he say he stopped playing??? Coz, he didn't! Strange!

Oneil should check Rafa Benitez records after then and tell us which club he was able to instill his discipline… character is everything, go check his last club at Celta Vigo.

Martin had never managed a big team like Chelsea. I don't expect him to understand what Mikel said. He can only respond the way he did.

@andrewhyde4708

6 ай бұрын

Martín managed Celtic, Villa and Forest, who are European Cup winners.

The trophies speak for themselves. Stop crying and complaining.

The days of ‘SHUT UP AND DRIBBLE’ are DONE! The RESPECT and UNDERSTANDING has to be MUTUAL!!! EVERYONE making things happen in ANY INSTITUTION or INDUSTRY deserves RESPECT FIRST!

He didn't say anything of value about what Obi said about Chelsea, nor anything of value about player power in general - but managed to make himself look/sound authoritative tho...so that was nice. 😆

John Terry was the problem, as soon as he was dropped he caused trouble.

@SlyCarey

7 ай бұрын

Rafa being the manager of Chelsea was the problem. Was never going to work

Martin O’neil channeling his inner Roy Keane, “Do me a favour!” 🤙

I love Martin O'Neal energy!!! Man came with all the receipts... Simon smirking is too funny

O'Neill didn't have to deal with player power because his managerial honours include something like 3 SPL titles, 3 or 4 Scottish cups and a league cup or 2 with Leicester back in the day... Achieved nothing in any competition of any real relevance to football other than being runner up in the UEFA Cup back in 2003. Give me a break mate.

Great rant. Loved it.

I don't expect Martins to understand Mikel's point. It is a big club thing. No disrespect intended please.

The love and support people have been showing for that Mikel interview is hilarious. Everything they always criticise current football for yet they celebrate it when it’s players and a team of the past that they liked. Hypocritical nonsense.

@KINGKING10109

7 ай бұрын

You gotta remember Mikel does have a podcast now also… So he was slightly playing to the gallery. For instance; He kept talking about how the players were conspiring to get Rafa out, But Rafa was only an interim manager in the first place…. He was Always leaving at the end of the season, so that didn’t make any sense to me

@goonern4644

7 ай бұрын

Exactly right. It's great when it's John Terry and Frank Lampard leading the mutiny. But the media crucified Aubameyang and labelled him a cancer in the dressing room. Even though his teammates loved him. Benitez even won them a European trophy. He wasn't a managerial nobody like Lampard twice.

@davidg7643

7 ай бұрын

The system worked, simple as. Some managers deserve the door. Like Rafa ousted JT, who 1 or 2 seasons later played every minute of a title winning season. Rafa as a managerial force was spent, and the players recognised that. I don’t particularly like it, but it worked. If more England players had had the balls, maybe they’d have ousted cappello, and won something.

@dfamx3891

7 ай бұрын

It’s not a now thing, Derby players did it before they won champions league, let’s be guided

@lloydwaycott8178

7 ай бұрын

@@davidg7643 So no moral backbone, no honour, no character, no principles, all okay because only winning matters. Is that how it is David.

Loved hearing Martin’s take there. A straight forward fella.

There have been many occasions when the players run the dressing room. France team in 2006 that reached world cup final under Domenech, many believed the players run the dressing room, with leaders like Henry, Zidane, Thuram, Vieira, etc. However in 2010 it got to the point where Anelka got sent home and the players rebelled and refused to train

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

thas not a healthy situation mate if a team is revolting when a certain player isn't playing

@rohithraman6488

7 ай бұрын

@@sponish0 I don't excuse what happened in 2010. But I don't have a problem with what happened in 2006 when France got to the final with strong characters in the team running the dressing room

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

tbf a world cup situation is different as its just a one tournament you need to win, its not like a club which is a business running day-today you need structure and hierarchy's for clubs@@rohithraman6488

Does anyone else hear Roy Keane in O’Neill here? 😂😂😂

Simon loving this, specially the Real Madrid joke.

And what’s your point exactly Martin? Those players won everything..

what 3 players is he talking about? 😂

Brilliant Martin I really enjoy you on the programme with Jim&Simon.

You cannot ignore player power in modern football. Take it or leave it.

Great segment with Martin.

O’Neill failed at Forest. And he’s bitter bout it.

‘The players are the most important people at a football club’ just shows the egos of players these days when it’s the fans 100% without fans football is nothing

@TamNguyen-cp3uj

7 ай бұрын

Fans are who paid the players, but it is extremely costly to replace players. Manager will always get the kick regardless, sometime it is not even because of the manager. The cheaper and better solution is to bring in a manager that can bring the team together.

obi is right the players are the most important part

I'm not going to lie I don't remember Obi Mikel being that good.

THANK YOU!!!!! Who do the players think they are???

Most important people at any club are the fans. Same as majority if footballers they live in a dream world

Player Power been around a Long time. Wasn`t it Player Power that got the great Brian Clough sacked from Leeds Utd after 44 days.?? Clough didn`t get off 1st base with the players after he told them their medals won under Revie were won by cheating.

Some manager, at villa he had the fastest counter attacking team in the PL

We needed Simon’s input here 😂

Lack of player power is the reason why Martin Onel won lots of trophies as a manager. 😂

They never question the ruble

Can we all pray for Martin... That he can find forgiveness in his heart for being old school and he's not employed anywhere near a football pitch...✌️

@darrenstreeton4237

7 ай бұрын

@user-tn8uu2cu8g Martin is his name mate..!!

Barca was run like that madrid was run like that bayern was run like that milan in their prime was run like that so player power has always been key part of success

Martin O'Neil was full of shithousery in this interview lmao

To be fair to Rafa… he did win the Europa league cup that season … so he left on a high… players did play for him!

6:02 Jordan having a quick shuffle while O'Neill is mid meltdown

Loooool he took that too personally

At the end of the day chelsea kept winning so it didnt matter but of course ex managers and current ones hearing this would be annoyed lol

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

they could of won a lot more though with a different model, they defo should of won the cl between the 2005-2010 period

Mr. O'Neal has never been at the football club of Chelsea's statue. I understand where he comes from but we still never liked Rafa and neither did the players. He still cant forget that Chelsea beat his teams every time.

@andrewhyde4708

6 ай бұрын

He managed Celtic, Villa and Forest, who are all European Cup winners.

Rattled 😂😂😂😂

Does not sound like an emotionally stable manager. Players will pick that up really quick!

People bang on about this stuff but if you look at the context the players were right on the money all the time. Mourinho and Ancelotti they never wanted out - clearly the two biggest successes - and Mourinho is a very fiery personality so plenty must have disliked him, but put up with him because he was doing well. The ones they wanted gone like Scolari, AVB, Benitez were not getting results and were alienating top players, and the ones who just let players manage themselves (Grant, Hiddink, Di Matteo) actually had the best results of all, although their periods were brief, they showed Chelsea were a team that thrived on just managing their own dressing room and being left to handle it.

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

nonsense mate you think players should down tools and not try if the manager isn't picking someone? they are paid to play football not play politics, if they want power to make decisions they can retire and be coaches instead

@matthewbrock8238

7 ай бұрын

@@sponish0I didn’t mention not trying and I don’t think Mikel did either - the player power they’re talking about is having the ability to go to the owner and say they would recommend a change of coach, which I’m saying they were always right on the money with. No one mentioned not playing for the shirt, and I think that whole idea is a myth anyway, I find it very hard to believe any footballer would ever step onto a pitch and make themselves look bad by intentionally playing poorly.

@sponish0

7 ай бұрын

lamps and terry in management you think they'd stand now for players they managing trying to get them sacked?i bet they'd think its wrong if their players did to them what they did to managers@@matthewbrock8238

Only saying what every one knows already. Marcus Rashford owns Ten Hag not the other way round.

The fact that Roman always chopped and changed managers.... What do you expect with JT bringing stability. He was use to success and understands the culture required to come into CFC

Sir alex ferguson always said the most important person at the football club is the manager.

We all knew they were doing this sort of thing back then in Chelsea

The boys like Martin, he’s a good addition.

David Beckam said the same thing in his documentary and he was held as a hero.. what a joke

Which big player did Martin O'Neil coach?

A lot of people who complain about player power have clearly not heard of LeGM

We were winning... That's what's important

It's the truth, Rio Ferdinand told the same about David Moyes the UTD players would not accept him.

Why is ONeill talking has if he has handled big stars. He is trying to over look it has if he has not been sacked by players. Top managers know that players dictate once they don't like your coaching style.

The quality of a manager is evident in the quality of resources that he or she manages... Groups, teams etc. pick their leader(s)- only smart managers see that.

So is it ok to work in an unfavorable environment? Martin is wrong on this...he s only talking from a manager's perspective

Martin O'Neill is right except we're talking about a team that could do it and then win to back it up.

This had nothing to do with what Mikel Obi had said. Sorry Coach.😢

shame to see he's lost any love he had for forest after what he achieved as a player there. back to back european cups is a phenomenal achievement in any era i will say it's funny hearing him rant about it tho

In every sport in the world, players have power

Martin we luv you 👍👍. The best