"It's Rewarding Failure!" Piers Morgan vs Bianca Westwood On Mary Earps SPOTY Win
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Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by former Sky Sports News broadcaster Bianca Westwood, TalkTV contributor Esther Krakue and associate editor of the Mirror Kevin Maguire to discuss and debate the Sports Personality Of The Year Award being presented to England Lionesses' goalkeeper Mary Earps and whether she deserves she accolade after failing to win any major trophies for club or country this season, compared to the other nominees who had won major honours in their respective sports.
Piers believes that the other nominees, such as Rory McIlroy, who led his team to the Ryder Cup victory this year, should have been voted ahead of Mary because she failed to win anything major. Bianca then points to all the individual accolades Mary won this year including the Golden Gloves in the WSL and World Cup and explains that she has dominated in her field on the pitch as well as her contributions off it.
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What about leon edwards. In past 15 months he became 2nd brit to be ufc champ and defended belt twice
@davidbrearey4147
5 ай бұрын
😯😯😯 Is he a girl, like the woman we are all talking about? 🤨🤨🤨
@demejiuk5660
5 ай бұрын
Right but how many people know Leon Edwards outside of MMA fans and casuals? Great story but I dont think it was so impactful.
@bushwacka5187
4 ай бұрын
Definitely Leon Edwards but he's not mainstream enough.
@darrenfearon4288
2 ай бұрын
Its Sports personality award , the award is about not only what she achieved in the last 12 months but how the public has taken towards Earps, When Dina Asher-Smith won the award I thought she deserved it because she had a great year and her personality shown over other athletes that year, its also about media coverage as well.
She said she played center mid and was Declan Rice … how is that inspiration from the lionesses 😂😂?
It is the Ms. Congeniality award!
Why do these people insist on lying about women’s football. Look at their WSL crowds across the whole league and in the women’s champions league. It’s laughable to call it a serious sport rivalling decent men’s football
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed..." Malcolm X
@georgecase5908
5 ай бұрын
lmfao
@Yorion33
5 ай бұрын
Only some women think women are oppressed, just remember that .
@connorf4035
5 ай бұрын
Are you insinuating the winner of SPOTY is oppressed?
@mathieusimoneau3358
5 ай бұрын
So many people citing Malcom X without never understanding the context ...
@gabrielegagliardi3956
5 ай бұрын
I can't find this Malcolm on X, do you have a link to his account ?
They should put her in goal for the mens team, then we could see how good she really is.
@mattcoates8466
5 ай бұрын
Put boys into a mens team, see how good they really are? Boy's are built differently to men just like women are ffs
@davidbrearey4147
5 ай бұрын
Better !!!!! Better get a bucket. !!!!! 😉😅😂🤣
@itsdavew5766
5 ай бұрын
why?
@mattcoates8466
5 ай бұрын
@@itsdavew5766 because if you compare women to men, then compare boys to men
@80sKitty
5 ай бұрын
Yeah because reactions to things being kicked at you is gender specific 😂
Mary Earp helped England to lose the World Cup. She wasn't good enough in the critical final match. So why did she get this award? There are so many better players who deserve it more.
I think it’s the BBC’s fault for not throwing this open to a wider range of sports in the nomination list,including golf and snooker, which were criminally overlooked. The public voted for Mary Earps based on the BBC’s shortlist so don’t blame her if the public voted for her. SPOTY has always been controversial.
@yosserc
5 ай бұрын
GOLF and SNOOKER ? Neither is a sport in any sensible definition. They're both hobbies.
@mikemactavish1665
4 ай бұрын
Right on . . . If its awarded on a public vote it is a popularity contest not an award for merit
Why do they call it personality award? That's always puzzled me.
@garethparry6673
5 ай бұрын
Cause of what Bianca said, it’s sporting merit and what impact you have on people. Example if Joey Barton was to win the World Cup in any sport next year he’d never get near SPOTY.
@michaeljust1193
5 ай бұрын
Good point , Andy Murray won it once ,and he doesn't have one .
@mrchico2621
5 ай бұрын
@@michaeljust1193 He won it three times.
@garethparry6673
5 ай бұрын
@@michaeljust1193 Andy Murray is very funny and he’s got a great persona!
@michaeljust1193
5 ай бұрын
@@mrchico2621 three times really he must have a fantastic personality I must have just never noticed ,always saw him as a moody tennis brat with zero charisma .
I’m shocked that Lucy Charles Barclay wasn’t even on the shortlist. She was a deserved winner of the award as she won the world Ironman triathlon championship which she lead from start to finish over 8 hours of swimming cycling and running. BBC should be ashamed for not even considering her when they have a goalkeeper who didn’t win anything.
Well said Joey 👍
My big issue with this is that the woman who finished third actually won her second world championship on the back of recovering from a career ending injury. So it's not that there aren't women worthy of the title, more that it should change it's name to personality of the year as the chances are that the bulk of the public votes were cast based on whose name they know because of the mainstream and social media rather than their sporting accomplishments.
@shoviksarangi5287
4 ай бұрын
YES!!! 🎉🎉 KATARINA JOHNSON THOMPSON!!!
@jamesbreslin5053
4 ай бұрын
Yes but that would be rewarding failure as well. KJT record in the pinnacle of her sport (Olympics) has beens dreadful.
@user-mz2uc3du9o
4 ай бұрын
@jamesbreslin5053 given that it is supposed to be an award about 2023 and not their careers in general I kind of find your comment baseless.
Bianca Westwood's voice is so annoying. I remember the argument with Joey Barton about working hard to get where she is. Is it really that hard to watch a game of football and tell people what's happened, how could we cope without these people.
@JAEGATS
4 ай бұрын
Some of you are such incels
If Jordan Pickford won the best goalkeeper in the world, I would pinch myself and wake up.
Greetings "Piers do you condemn hamas morgan" 😂😂😂😂 never going to get old that one
@sunnyexposure5922
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
Spent half hour trying to bully Joey Barton into shutting up and this is exactly the type of shit he's talking about
Joey Barton was spot on 😂
@junk_rig_sailor1698
5 ай бұрын
Darn right he was.
@Benniton1
5 ай бұрын
He talks like he played and managed, nonsense…
@PoldarkGodzilla
5 ай бұрын
@@Benniton1 but he is correct on this
@GerryT.
5 ай бұрын
Bartons a tosspot,always has been always will be.
@Scoobydoo19677
5 ай бұрын
Barton is an orange bastard
Phil Taylor never won it. Darts is a now a huge game because of him, the standard of all players has Improved because of him . Michael Bisping first Brit to a win ufc title never won it. It’s an award that means very little now.
Mary Earps inspired Piers Morgan's daughter to be a centre midfielder like Declan Rice 😂
@timcomley5948
4 ай бұрын
Bum bum
@darrenpaulschofield5268
4 ай бұрын
😂
Stop bullying people, Piers ! *If you didn't like her dress, say it straight !*
I remember when Jenson Button won the F1 drivers championship as a British driver for a British team in the teams debut year in which the British team won the constructors championship. A feat which will likely never be achieved by anyone anywhere ever again. Ryan Gigs won that year for doing nothing special. It’s a popularity contest in a country that just thinks duuurrrrr……football football footballers.
@RedWeather2004
4 ай бұрын
Yep and the same team were in crisis when they were Honda a year ago
Did she try and compare her to Gazza, the world is lost
where was Tom aspinall or leon edwards ? both became world champs in MMA
How can she say Ronnie O’Sullivan isn’t isn’t inspiring people? Crazy
@davidbrearey4147
5 ай бұрын
She does not really know what that stick is for, and what does it do. !!!! 😉😉😉😉
Mary Earps winning the SPOTY is the logical endpoint of the woke 'include and reward all women, even if they didn't deserve or earn it' mindset currently en vogue. For Piers to disagree with Joey Barton and yet come down on Earps win shows how clueless he really is.
I never heard of her before the award and I am a massive football fan!!
@MarkStevens8899
5 ай бұрын
You should get out more
@CanYouHandleThis
5 ай бұрын
@@MarkStevens8899huh?
@abstraqtphilosophy7357
5 ай бұрын
@@MarkStevens8899 get out more to do what? Nobody knows her outside London. Most male football fans don't know her and could care less about her. She has no relevance to male football fans
@WilliamGarrow
5 ай бұрын
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357Well I've heard of her and live in London.
@Maggie_n_Mitch23
5 ай бұрын
I've heard of Wyatt the Marshall 😂😂
Why is this even a discussion? Mary Earps was brilliant in 2023. She won the award on merit. Simple.
Ronnie is one of the greatest in any field this country has ever produced.
@dcoughla681
5 ай бұрын
I agree.
@WilliamGarrow
5 ай бұрын
Snooker isn't a real sport. Fat Dave down the pub is good at snooker but he's no athlete.
@andsowot
5 ай бұрын
@@WilliamGarrow Yeh every knob head who can't play it says that. Same as golf🤷🏻♂️
@reavston95
5 ай бұрын
@@WilliamGarrow neither is that fat goalkeeper for England what about Leon edwards guy won the ufc title no one even mentions him
@illyaedwards7188
5 ай бұрын
@@WilliamGarrowfat Dave would beat any woman football player.
Shes inspiring for the next generation of Only Fans.
We have this nonsense of participation medals in South-African freestyle wrestling (probably many other sporting codes) for the younger ones. It only serves to teach them how to be entitled brats.
@theculturedthug6609
5 ай бұрын
In that kind of Culture you don't produce elite athletes.
@dewalddewet759
5 ай бұрын
@@theculturedthug6609 Exactly my point. The proof is in SA' s olympic cycle history. We had some tough guys (albeit few), but at least they qualified. This was after the boikots during the 90's and 2000's. Around 2012 ish this shit started, administrators got hungry for this of the year and that of the year, and we have not qualified even 1 wrestler for the olympics since. 🤮
I know she's our goalkeeper for United and she saved a penalty and then shouted “fuck off” loudly 😂😂😂
@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn
5 ай бұрын
I am also a Manchester United fan and I don't give a sugar-frosted f*ck about the Women's team.
@Pnsbcor
5 ай бұрын
@@charlesstilesmysterydinersfnUr only a mens team utd fan then, get 1 thing right at least lol
@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn
5 ай бұрын
@@Pnsbcor yeah, a Manchester United fan. Women that wear the badge as part of a circus act don't count.
@Pnsbcor
5 ай бұрын
@@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn 🤣🤣 the sexism coming out of u is crazy men r so desperate for women
She deserves the award if she condemn Hamas 😂
Kevin Sinfield should have won. If it’s on contribution for sport.
Mary who?
So basically it has the same value as a participant award
@80sKitty
5 ай бұрын
Not really, people voted for her to win, so people like her, wanted her to win and voted for her. She has lots of fans 😊
@MrSolenoid
5 ай бұрын
@@80sKitty aaaa ok I got it. It's a popularity award, not an achievement award . Cool 🤡
I'm an American. I have no idea what these people are talking about😂
@EvoraGT430
5 ай бұрын
Storm in a tiny teacup, honestly.
@vanturner9000
5 ай бұрын
You are so fortunate
@Afc1987
5 ай бұрын
That's no surprise 😂😂
She won all the individual awards in a TEAM sport ☠️☠️☠️
Its rewarding effort and commitment!
List of all the awards that Mary Earps has won.... The Best FIFA Women's Goalkeeper: 2022 Women's Super League Golden Glove: 2022-23 FIFA Women's World Cup Golden Glove: 2023 PFA WSL Team of the Year: 2016-17 FA WSL, 2022-23 FA WSL UEFA Women's Championship Team of the Tournament: 2022 England Women's Player of the Year: 2022-23 Freedom of the City of London (announced 1 August 2022) BBC Sports Personality of the Year: 2023 BBC Women's Footballer of the Year: 2023 Sunday Times Sportswoman of the Year: 2023 Northwest Football Awards Billy Seymour Impact Award: 2023
@magggotface
5 ай бұрын
Every 12 year old boy is still better than her....
@kenspedding4594
4 ай бұрын
Never won a football trophy as she is 💩💩💩💩
@pauldavies7251
4 ай бұрын
She shouldnt be compared to top class athletes as she plays in a sport thats well below average , Take the thought of sexism away & womens football is absolutely terrible but its being forced on to the public just to look like its equal to the mens game, which it isnt
I didn't know who she was until she was on A League Of Their Own.
It's in the title of the award. The Sports PERSONALITY of the Year. It is nothing but personality and nothing to do with who is the best at a sport.
@davidbrearey4147
5 ай бұрын
Better !!!!! Better get a bucket. !!!!! 😉😅😂🤣
she won that award for what she was not wearing. Meeeeeow ;)
I completely agree with what she says ,she did win loads of things as a player herself and she is right if an England player (male) won world player of the year and all the other stuff as well plus got to the world cup final there would be no discussion about it? And let's be fair the women have reached the world cup final! When was the last time these totally overpaid men do that?
@---df5sr
5 ай бұрын
The trouble is that womens football is at such a low level of competition compared to the men that you can’t compare trophies. Winning a trophy is the men game means so much more, it just does. Any half decent comprehensive school team would makelight work of any womans team
Ronnie O'Sullivan to Not even be on the List after 8 UK Championships and 7 World Titles. Bet more people watched all of Ronnies UK Championships Games then Any Woman's England World Cup Games.
I am a bit shocked , Piers showed humanity towards the end of the show .
Tbf she wouldn’t save any of them pens😂 would have to rely on Barton missing the target for a chance
Piers - it's called PERSONALITY of the year award NOT - who won the most award that's the Ballon d'Or - there is not one other person on that list that managed to get one of the biggest brands in the world to make a u-turn in their production of tshirts that beat any record of any tshirt sales in the UK! How is that not a major achievement...
FRANKIE DETORI SHOULD HAVE WON 🏆 HE INSPIRES YOUNG JOCKY SPORT BOTH MEN AND WOMEN ALIKE..VERY GOOD JOCKY 👍 FRANKIE
"I just don't know how she won a popular vote, I mean I know it was a public vote and people voted for her to win, but I don't get how she won" Lol
@michaelmarron8441
4 ай бұрын
😧
Mary Earps - 1/8 Stuart Broad - 12/1 Katarina Johnson-Thompson - 22/1 Frankie Dettori - 40/1 Alfie Hewitt - 66/1 Rory McIlroy - 250/1 The betting kind of sums it up for me obviously someone knew something And take a price now on next years winner which will be Harry Kane you might get evens if your lucky
@mrchico2621
5 ай бұрын
Never even looked at the odds, that's crazy. They knew exactly what was going to happen 😂
@timcomley5948
4 ай бұрын
I’ll lay you evens
Leon Edwards won the UFC title and has defended it twice and has been completely overlooked.
Leon 'Rocky' Edwards this year became the first British UFC double world champion and he wasn't even mentioned on the show.
It was a public vote. Looks like piers doesn't like democracy. And at this point in time, ronnie has won 7 world titles, not 8 ( as of 2023).
With respect, It is even more strange given that the poor standard of goalkeeping is the biggest problem with the women's game.
Piers, you’re wrong on this. Mary deserved this, she has had many successes over the past year and is very inspirational - and has great personality.
Joey Barton spoke no wrong along with women, minorities are there to tick a box, being a military man who is also of colour I think it’s outrageous what the MODs diversity recruiting policy, that’s starting to be implemented, in a wartime or other catastrophe scenario I don’t want someone who is incompetent to be leading making decisions on life and death matters purely cos they was chosen to tick a box
Young girls on their phones texting...say no more .
What did Stuart Broad win?
Harry Kane was top scorer at the 2018 World Cup and finished 3rd...
As female commentators/pundits go, Bianca is excellent.
Joey is spot on with the pundits.. nothing worse than a woman commentating on a game am watching in premier league. It's making the game boring and var is stupid and the referees are useless.
Alfie Hewitt?! A person who won the Australian open and the US open, was a finalist in Wimbledon and the French open. He also won the Australian and French opens as well as Wimbledon in the doubles tournament. I guess a person with a disability can be overlooked… as long as he’s a man
Piers morgan saying he loves the impact the lionesses have made on women and girls football...his daughter comes home from school saying she played Central midfield like Declan Rice, 🤔 not that big of an impact then.
Alex Scott for saying her big line "WELL THEYVE NOT BEEN AT THEIR BEST LATELY. UTTER DUNG. NO OFFENCE MALE PUNDITS MALE FOOTBALL. FEMALES FOR FEMALE FOOTBALL. ITS NOT COMPLICATED.
Bonkers
Gazza was the best player in the 1990 world cup by far.
@CKD3332
5 ай бұрын
And the 1990 World Cup was the worst World Cup in history.
@BaronVonGreenback1882
5 ай бұрын
@@CKD3332 It was one of the best in my life and I'm 56, probably the best, I remember Pavarotti and the three tenors singing at the start of each program, Gazza was the best player in the world at that tournament, it was a shame that the Germans cheated in getting him booked in the semi, I swear, he never touched him but the ref fell for the screams from the German bench.
Piers - ''I'm just mad cause a woman won something and I'm really a misogynist'' 🤣
@mathieusimoneau3358
5 ай бұрын
Piers citing Tate you mean ...
@AndrewLuke
5 ай бұрын
Okay, I'm done with this. No, Sorry. Alright. See you later. Sorry, can't do this.
@PR7-82
5 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯 he's such a hypocrite 🙄 he's all for women's sports when trans invade until women are doing it for themselves
@davidbrearey4147
5 ай бұрын
@@AndrewLuke Was that a hissy fit, I see. ???? 🤔😉😂🤣
Josh Kerr didn't even get on the shortlist for what he achieved. Its just become a wokefest
Did Piers/or anyone have a problem when Gazza . won SPOTY in 1990 ..?
The English men football team lost the final against Italy in England . The women Won the EU Cup . In the World Cup the women had chance to win the World Cup if they had got the same support the men usually got .
@davidbrearey4147
5 ай бұрын
The English men lost, but the manager was at fault for that. Giving young inexperienced young guy's all that pressure when there were lots of older experienced players avaiable. !!!! The women are basically playing a game that is even less than a boys school standard team. So any mistake and each goal keeper will have no chance of making a save, hence why they have so many goals. !!!!! If you like that kind of play, I am happy for you, but for every you, there are a thousand men supporters of the real game. !!!!! 😉😉🙃😆😅😂🤣
@pauldavies7251
4 ай бұрын
Why would people support a below average sport? I can go down the local field on the weekend & watch better players than the lioness's!! Sport is about being the best women are no good at football just like rugby union & rugby league thats just the harsh facts of life no sexism just truth
I’m the best golfer in my house so I should have won it 🤔😩😂😂
@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn
5 ай бұрын
I voted for you.
Had to laugh a Bianca when she tried to put down Rory for winning a team event but listing losing a team event for Earps as a reason to win.
When it comes to sport, men prefer the company of other men, just as i would also assume women prefer the company of other women. Its a simple as that
UFC champion Leon Edwards should have won it. UFC World Champion who's defended his title multiple times in a physical fight sport. Rocky Edwards should have won it.
Never heard of Mary Earps. That said, I don't follow women's football and I haven't watched SPOTY in the last 20 years or so. I know equality and diversity are at the forefront of everything the BBC stands for now, possibly to extreme levels.
@80sKitty
5 ай бұрын
So because a women won a public vote because people like her, that's "extreme diversity" ? Ffs, you guys just can't cope can you 😂
Piers you've lost the plot man nobody's getting rewarded for losing what the hell are you talking about
Where was Jordan Pickford's nomination when England lost the euros in the final. He was class in the euros even saving that vital free kick in the semis against damsgaaard. He was played better then Mary earps in that comp. But he didn't get nominated at all
@michaelmarron8441
4 ай бұрын
Midfielder Jordan Henderson was the football nominee that year
I’ll be honest, I thought her winning was ridiculous until the point made about Gazza and Owen. That put it into perspective. I’ve changed my mind. I believe she deserves it on that comparison. However Ronnie O’Sullivan could easily have won it for personality alone, never mind his success
@olela6018
5 ай бұрын
tbf not a lot of ppl thought owen or gazza should've won it either. they just accepted the actual competition for the award in those yrs was terrible other than the Rocket. (He was robbed both times again)
@WilliamGarrow
5 ай бұрын
She actually won a trophy with England this year as well. So what Piers is saying is nonsense.
@deltabravo9908
5 ай бұрын
@@WilliamGarrow yeah. It’s like a man winning woman of the year. That would NEVER happen 😳
@barry2924
5 ай бұрын
Ronnie never gets close ffs, gets the odd mention but never in the running absolute scandless
@chozusmakavelli
5 ай бұрын
Earp's "famous" penalty save was a cheat (she was over her line by over 1 foot) . you cant award cheats.
It's about personality and not victories or trophies.
Comment on Ronaldo is spot on Piers! I’ve been saying since Ajax ten Hag was under qualified, and how could Ronaldo “be the problem” if he scores almost 30 goals in one season
@barry2924
5 ай бұрын
Because he didn't defend and everything was about him, no manager needs that coming in trying to stamp there authority, united doing no worse than when Ronaldo was there anyhow
@LiamLifts.
5 ай бұрын
@@barry2924 they are doing worse tho 😭😭
@Freezerburntpeas
5 ай бұрын
@@LiamLifts.cry
Listening to this, actually listening, I'm less bothered that she won.
Ronnie O’Sullivan should have won the BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2023 but he didn't even get nominated due to politics.
Katrina Johnson-Thompson! My God, what has she got to do to win?
I don't know if she should have won over the others, but it's unfair to say she hasn't won anything. Being a World Cup finalist is an achievement in itself; in the Olympics, they call them silver medal winners. Would Piers have objected if Johan Cryuff had been given the equivalent award in the Netherlands in 1974 because he lost in the final?
@mrchico2621
5 ай бұрын
Mate they're different sports, getting to a final in the ladies game is NOT the same as achieving anything in the men's game.
@piruz3243
5 ай бұрын
@@mrchico2621 First of all, they are different categories of the same sport. But it doesn't matter, and I don't think you got my point, my friend. Being the runner-up in ANY sport on the world stage is a great achievemet, and she had a lot to do with it. They are also the current European champions. If the men's team had reached the final and had lost to Argentina, I'm sure all the English fans would have been heartbroken, but I think they still would have considered it a successful campaign. Personally, I think her winning the award was politically motivated, and probably someone else should have won it. However, my objection is when Piers undervalues her achievements and all but calls her a loser. I think she's a great athlete, but there were more deserving candidates.
@mrchico2621
5 ай бұрын
@@piruz3243 Funny you said that when you didn't understand my point at all. Obviously all sports are operating at different levels of skill and intensity. When you take away all the bluster and nonsense surrounding women's football, it's really just a low level minority sport played by very few people. So no, it's not really true that being a runner-up in ANY sport on the world stage is always some kind of special achievement.
@michaelmarron8441
4 ай бұрын
@@mrchico2621 I'm tending to agree. The pool of players in mens football is huge I'd also apply this to F1 and equestrian events How many people play those sports?
Is woman's world cup the same as the woman's ? In popularity, in playing.
He loves the sound of his own voice
Are normally agree with Piers, not this time, on a more serious note, Phil Taylor, 16 times world champion never got a look in, why does he not get a mention, yo we’re still talking about losers, not Phil….
Mary you are the best 👍
This is silly. In a one to one comparison, Tyson Fury would murder every other athlete mentioned here. It doesnt necessarily mean he is the best sportsman in the country
@mrchico2621
5 ай бұрын
Who mentioned Tyson Fury? 🤨
Please make it stop.
Boxing ticking is what it's called....
I didn't vote because Josh Kerr the World 1500 metres Gold medal wasn't even one of the six. Barbara Slater The BBC equivalent of Amanda Blanc of Aviva, decided she wasn't going to give a male challenge to her choice.
Ronnie has won 7 snooker WCs. No big deal, someone has already done that. Maybe if he wins 8, he can then say hes the King of Snooker, until then Hendry is that King.
The man who said Brexit was a democratic process and we just follow the vote then hammers the outcome from a democratic process
I’ve never never ever heard of her
I get participation medals for little kids starting any sport (if you’re smaller it’s harder, see; trans women in sports) but for HSers give the winners a trophy and tell the losers good game bc “everyone wins” isn’t how life works out, it seems.
Morgan got owned here on the logic front.
" or better than the men??????" Fantasy!?! cheers
I’m not sure how Mary earps winning this is a question, she’s fantastic. The women’s team did not fail they made the World Cup final and in amongst that she won lots of individual honours and the Arnold cup. Conveniently kept on being ignored. Mary earps has serious personality and inspires many people. Well done earps!
fact is, it's a public vote, most the people sitting at home, watching TV, voting, are women.