I would have told you at the beginning how Israelies would respond. I am from Iran and we have Jewish people and non of these stereotypes that we heard about Jewish people when we moved to Europe exist in Iran. I have so many Jewish frieds and they are so different from each other from appearance to being religious or secular nor they together the way people think in Europe or are roomers. They have been missudetstood without people asking them, to me they have been the nicest people and friends that am still thankful of. just empty your mind and look forward for getting someone new to know and could change your life.

@schlafcomandante5662

Жыл бұрын

@Kids in Trouble Help Page 🇮🇱 Freedom for Palestine.

@jonathanharell5254

Жыл бұрын

@@schlafcomandante5662 first for iran, iraq, syria, lebanon, yemen, afghanistan, libya, sudan, somalia and many more. freedom will come to palestine when they want peace

@RobespierreThePoof

3 ай бұрын

Well, that would have defeated the purpose of gathering interviews! But it is always interesting and important for the world to hear from Persians / Iranians who are not part of the Tehran government.

@1camilia

3 ай бұрын

@@RobespierreThePoof yes the people of Iran are misunderstood just like the people of Isreal. For the world it's hard to believe that the government of Iran does not represent the people of Iran. Iranian people would be the most ideal people for being friends with Jewish people. Iran being anamie of Israel is unnecessary and is herding Iranian people. On the other hand no one should take side with Israel or Palastin. If so then one should take side with both. Because both suffer. Two state solution is not good. If the Israelites are better of then Jews need to run the country for both and Palistinian need to adjust them self to the culture. So the next generation would grow without hatred. Iranian people are not pleased with the Mullahs supporting Palastin. Its not there problem, they have enough problems in Iran. Trust me this is what 90% of Iranian think, but it doesn't mean that they want Israel to bomb them. It's in the human nature that they unify and become one when they are thretend. If Iranian people went to the street for Sulaymanie was because he was a general and defiedet there borders against Iraq , when Iranian were sleeping safely. But it doesn't mean that Iranian like his thoughts and Idialegie. It's like Americans wanting to be bombed because they don't like Trump. So don't get confused and keep your faith,. We must believe and hope for peace and good. No matter what reality is. All human achievements were a dream at first.

The woman had it correct when she brought up Shabbat. Judaism sanctifies life. Violating Shabbat is one of the largest desecration as you can make in Judaism. One of the LARGEST. The fact that you are permitted to desecrate this in order to preserve life, to desecrate it, if life is even in question of being at risk, shows the extent that life means. We do not go and put our life on the line needlessly for a cause. This is sacrilegious. there is a difference between fighting for your country and your people, but we do not glorify death. If they die, it is unfortunate. But we do not glorify it. We do not promote it. We do not want it.

@chugalongway01

Жыл бұрын

Liar…..just look at those illegal squatters in the West Bank. The Zios use them has human shields to colonize the natives. Then the State swoops in and takes the spoils. The illegal settlers are the tip of the spear of the Zionist project. It happens in all settler colonial projects. The Zios are still bogged down in the “frontier” zone “redeeming the land”…..ie ethnic cleansing the locals so the settlers became the natives

@StayTheFuckAwayFromMe

Жыл бұрын

Fuck What the Tooraht say We are not god worshippers

@StayTheFuckAwayFromMe

Жыл бұрын

We only wrote it To keep god worshippers Away from us , as they hunted us Bearded Zionists Because We did not worship No god as the indians did and on it goes

@mdaslam6337

Жыл бұрын

Then what you have to say about secular or atheist Jews who don't observe the Shabbat regularly or at all?

@StayTheFuckAwayFromMe

Жыл бұрын

@@mdaslam6337 i call them original Jewish view of the Jewish race view on life .

loved the ending it's not Israeli conversation if you don't interrupt and speak over other people, love it

@manishas9411

Жыл бұрын

That's non-Europeans in general though and so comical.

@jasonkemmerer5654

Жыл бұрын

@@manishas9411 The Perfect Martyr already died 2,000 years ago so that we would not have to suffer the ultimate penalty for sin which is the second death also called "hell fire" and "eternal condemnation". but because of what This One did when HE died and tasted death for us; because of what HE did those who put their trust in HIM and believe that HE IS GOD who became a Human Man, died to make The Final Atonement for our sins, and rose from the dead 3 days later those who believe in these things and The One who did all this whose name is YESHUA HA MASHIACH (IE Jesus THE MESSIAH/CHRIST) those who put their trust in HIM will not have to taste the second death in everlasting hell fire but will past from death to life and have Eternal Life. and i only ask all here if not already done so to please make the wisest choice you will ever make by choosing to trust in THE MESSIAH/HA MASHIACH WHOSE NAME IS YESHUA/Jesus so that you too will have Eternal Life, peace greater than anything the world could give, love/compassion for your enemies, and Salvation for your very soul.

@8xXcoolbeansXx8

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonkemmerer5654 No way. Innocent life is never sacrificed for the sins of others. Death doesn’t bring anyone salvation. Death is a tragedy, because in death you can’t serve God anymore. Life is sanctified, and if you sin you continue on to be better in life and repent as God commanded in the Hebrew Bible.

@manishas9411

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonkemmerer5654 Your post made me thankful I'm not religious...🙏

@manishas9411

Жыл бұрын

@@8xXcoolbeansXx8 totally agree

That is the FIRST and ONLY honest reaction I have ever heard--"the elders are not sacrificing themselves as martyr ls, so why should we sacrifice our children??" Excellent perspective!!

And that exchange at the end.. epic

@RobespierreThePoof

3 ай бұрын

I have to rewind and watch that one again. I was a little confused by the young haredi's argument. I also had to remind myself of that cultural point where it is said that it's easy for foreigners to mistake a lively conversation for an angry argument in Israel.

Corey, a lingual criticism : when you ask questions in Hebrew you sometimes make it sound like you are making statements instead, like when you asked the guy who refused to answer, it sounded like you were stating that he wants his children to die for Israel.

@thehuguenot5615

Жыл бұрын

He should have asked "is israel worth enough for your kid to die for"

@syoels

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that too! In many of your videos people don't understand what you want from them on your first try, because you don't emphasize the tone of question. If you find it hard/confusing to use your tone to communicate you are asking a question. consider using an interrogative word like ״האם״ (I think that's the one you are usually missing)

@trekflyer

Жыл бұрын

@@syoels yes... please Corey, use "Haim", please. It turns what sounds like a command in to a question.

@minskdhaka

Жыл бұрын

It could be because he's my fellow Canadian. In Canadian English our questions often sound like statements (more so than in other varieties of English).

@chugalongway01

Жыл бұрын

Give him a break. Corey is only new to the Forgotten language and he is still learning about the Uknown Homeland.

I remember hearing the story of a rabbi in Hebron in 1929, the Arabs thought he was not a Jew, they were going to let him go, he stood up knowing that claiming he was a Jew would mean his death. He said, I am a Jew, they killed him.

@Linda43

Жыл бұрын

Dr. Baruch Goldstein died for his Jewish sisters and brothers.

@MissJustagirl1985

Жыл бұрын

You talk a lot of bullshit. Muslims don’t want 2 kill. They want there land back and live in peace.

@djfhdjdjfhfbdjfhdjdjfhfb

Жыл бұрын

The Arabs in Hebron wanted to kill only the Ashkenazi yeshiva students in the town. They didn't want to harm the Sephardi Jews. The Sephardi rabbi went to the Ashkenazi yeshiva and stood together with the Ashkenazi Jews, so they killed him too.

The Young guy on the bicycle at the end is the only one in this whole video that showed the insanity of the meaning of a Jewish martyr. Thankfully He is deranged and not the mainstream thoughts and ideals of Israelis. The older Guy who was also religious answered him well. There is no such thing in Judaism as a martyr. Only a hero who gives up his life in the active defence of his country.

@josefabuaisheh6262

Жыл бұрын

Can you explain his views... it seemed to me that following the commandments, was for him the most important thing and therefore he and his people refuse to kill for the Israeli Country, because for him the country has no significance, right? But I didn't understand why he wanted to commit suicide... I thought you could simply go to a military prison, if you refuse to enlist in the army? Or is this a warning of what is going to happen, if they forcefully enlist ultra orthodox people? And really why does he not go and join the IDF and try to change something there?

@itsytyt5192

Жыл бұрын

ממ

@Abilliph

Жыл бұрын

@@josefabuaisheh6262 it's not because he wants the IDF to be different.. those people want to dedicate their lives to studying the Torah, and some believe Israel should return only when God tells them, and therefore, refuse to acknowledge its existence. There are some crazy people (apparently) who believe it is better to die than to be a part of a secular organization that might weaken their belief... They wouldn't join any army, but they have no problem to kill for the Torah, because for them it's a just cause. So no.. they don't care about the country.. but they very much care about the land, and believe it will return to them when God decrees. And they don't want to change the IDF.. they couldn't care less about the other side.. they don't even want to work.. all they want is to study Torah.

@happydillpickle

Жыл бұрын

@@josefabuaisheh6262 That kid's views are outrageous. If indeed there is a rabbi telling children this nonsense, he's going to be better off being placed in a psychiatric hospital for his own and others' safety. If someone refuses to do national service there are many other options that are better than suicide! Surely it would be better to go to prison, or even be a cook, for example, in the army. Suicide is forbidden in Jewish law. Imagine if conscientious objectors like Atalya Ben-Abba were being told by some lunatic to commit suicide! G-d forbid!

@bB-oy2rw

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure there are other ways to get out of the army and it’s theoretical about taking the religious girls to the army, they can do public community service instead. There are people who are riled up. It is very important to learn Torah and they don’t want the influences from the secular army, but there can be a balance

We jews don't cherish death - we cherish life

@avi3860

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Jews sanctify life, Arab terrorists live to kill and die as martyrs for Allah. Hashem commands us to live.

@chrisconnor7934

Жыл бұрын

Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Rahim: 6. Say, "O you who are Jews, if you claim that you are allies of Allah , excluding the [other] people, then wish for death, if you should be truthful. [Qur'an, 62:6]

@mercyjames2639

Жыл бұрын

Then cherish palestinian lives too.

@Evantrop

Жыл бұрын

@@mercyjames2639 Guess what dumbass Israel never fires first.We always return fire. What army in the world makes a phone call to warn the population first?None. Also hamas hides in hospitals schools and kindergardns.They deliberatly use civilians as live shield.Including children.So shut up!!

@FactsChecker007

Жыл бұрын

Then care for the Palestinians life too.. what a selfish bastards.

"The people of Israel sanctify life, it doesn't sanctify death" Lady at 4:30 "We love death as much as they love life" Mohammad Hijab

@SirEnzo371

Жыл бұрын

To many Muslims that isn't a slight. Loving death means being able to meet your creator which makes them more devout to their causes and resistance in this world.

This is a really stupid question. He's trying to equate a martyr with a hero. In Islam a terrorist who blows himself up in a cafe would be considered a martyr no Israeli would considered a Jew who does the same thing a hero or a martyr. In Judaism someone who dies saving lives is a hero.

@josefabuaisheh6262

Жыл бұрын

Most definetly they are not a Martyr... They take innocent life, just to cause pain and revenge their loved ones! And most importantly they hurt Islam the most! The most common Palestinian Marytr is the shot Civilian! 😣 And as Israel get's more agressive, this has become an even more likely future for the average palestinian... May god gives us all the strength to seek peace rather than conflict!

@starhopper1706

Жыл бұрын

@@josefabuaisheh6262 As Israel gets more aggressive? What about you guys? Wtf do you think they are REACTING to?

@mgigachad3170

Жыл бұрын

Killing yourself is forbidden in Islam

@starhopper1706

Жыл бұрын

@@mgigachad3170 Seems to be just fine as long as you're trying to k. a J when it happens.

@mgigachad3170

Жыл бұрын

@@starhopper1706 what do you mean lol

It was intense at the last seconds of the video 😲

i loved the discussion in the end of the video, so tense

I never thought about what it meant to be a parent in Israel up until now. When I was growing up going a little bit back and forth between America and Israel for vacations and to visit family I always took it at face value. When you turn 18 you go to the army. I was not going to be living in Israel so I would not have to go to the army. And going to the army doesn't necessarily mean fighting on the battlefield or being in risk, there are computer teams, engineers, media teams, etc. but it holds a weight to it. There is always a chance that it doesn't have to be as much of a threat though. Perhaps some of these parents can look towards a future where their kids won't even need to join the army or at least to be at any risk while being in the army.

3:16 is not translated correctly. The commandment is not against killing but against murdering. There’s a great difference.

@shanihodia6257

Жыл бұрын

True

Regarding Masada, there are 2 times in Jewish law where martyrdom/suicide is appropriate. Forced conversion is one of them. So if someone puts a gun to your head and says "convert to another religion or die" Halachly you're supposed to accept suicide over forced apostasy.

@nashmi-8609

Жыл бұрын

In Islam you can lie and say yes i wil convert because life is more important than this

@ForeverRepublic

Жыл бұрын

@@nashmi-8609 We may have that rule as well, but I'm not sure. There really are a lot of similarities between Jewish and Muslim theology.

@nashmi-8609

Жыл бұрын

@@ForeverRepublic O believers! Do not devour one another’s wealth illegally, but rather trade by mutual consent. And do not kill ˹each other or˺ yourselves. Surely Allah is ever Merciful to you. Surat alnisa aya29

@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046

Жыл бұрын

Actually, it is three instances, and it is not only appropriate, it is mandatory for Jews to give up their lives: when you are forced to worship an idol, commit adultery or kill somebody. In Islam we don't have such a tough ruling, so the people saying the difference in answers is because of religion are wrong. The difference is cultural and due to having a different take on the conflict.

@tamaralexander9379

Жыл бұрын

@@nashmi-8609 Many Jews who had to convert lied about it and continue living as Jews. Like Crypto Jews.

Just to be clear what that teen was saying about killing the daughter not to go the the army is an absolutely extreme thing to say, coming from a religious Jew I can tell you that the majority of religious Jews absolutely do not think this way at all. They would figure out other solutions if it was important for them to not go to the army, they would absolutely not kill them. What that kid is saying is extremely extremely extreme and I’m sure I tiny amount of people would believe that.

@David99356

Жыл бұрын

He's probably the only person in the world who believes that. He sounds like he's not all there.

@minskdhaka

Жыл бұрын

​@@David99356 : I don't think he's the only person who believes that. He was quoting Rabbi Karelitz (1926-2019), and the rabbi must have some other followers besides this guy.

@myx0mop

Жыл бұрын

That teen is a moron. And, most religious Jews would tell him that he is a moron, just as that older guy did.

@user-xv8kz7dy7g

Жыл бұрын

@@minskdhaka The Rebbe probably says this to emphasize the severity of sending a women to the army and he doesn't really mean what he says about poison he was just being extreme to emphasize a point i guess

@jasonkemmerer5654

Жыл бұрын

@@user-xv8kz7dy7g The Perfect Martyr already died 2,000 years ago so that we would not have to suffer the ultimate penalty for sin which is the second death also called "hell fire" and "eternal condemnation". but because of what This One did when HE died and tasted death for us; because of what HE did those who put their trust in HIM and believe that HE IS GOD who became a Human Man, died to make The Final Atonement for our sins, and rose from the dead 3 days later those who believe in these things and The One who did all this whose name is YESHUA HA MASHIACH (IE Jesus THE MESSIAH/CHRIST) those who put their trust in HIM will not have to taste the second death in everlasting hell fire but will past from death to life and have Eternal Life. and i only ask all here if not already done so to please make the wisest choice you will ever make by choosing to trust in THE MESSIAH/HA MASHIACH WHOSE NAME IS YESHUA/Jesus so that you too will have Eternal Life, peace greater than anything the world could give, love/compassion for your enemies, and Salvation for your very soul.

That was fascinating!

Before watching the video: I 100% doubt that anyone answered "yes".

@linoyohana1186

3 ай бұрын

you’re wrong! and you should watch. jews have a value to life and they won’t kill themselves to kill someone else like muslims.

I didn't consider all the ramifications of this question until the last segment where the knowledgeable gentleman (I'm guessing he's Sephardic) confronted the younger haredi gentleman whose faction teaches it is desecration(?) of Torah to serve in the IDF. (Am I hearing this right? I just read an article in TOI referencing this.) Very interesting video, Corey.

@viewercjg

Жыл бұрын

btw, I've read that there was a third option for Iberian Jews during the Inquisition: you could leave Spain. Many did and headed to the Ottoman Empire. This may have been unevenly applied.

@saftabracha1140

Жыл бұрын

Being in the army is not a desecration. Hashem has and army that physically fights to protect combined with a spiritual army through praying

@viewercjg

Жыл бұрын

@@saftabracha1140 thanx for your explanation

@Abilliph

Жыл бұрын

@@saftabracha1140 the spiritual army is a very modern thing. Originally Jews prayed and studied Torah when they could.. but they also worked and fought when they were needed to. In ancient history, the tribe of Levi was the only exception.. but today many Haredi men believe it's their right to not work or fight for their country.. no matter if they're Levites or not. They also seclude themselves in their closed communities.. separating themselves from the other Jews.. while the Levites were traveling the land and teaching the word of God.

@David99356

Жыл бұрын

@@viewercjg Yes, the guy in the video mentioned that option. But you can see why a lot of people wouldn't want to leave everything they built and go somewhere else.

Love it, lived 9 months in Jerusalem and still learning new words if I watch the videos. Also the content is awesoeme! Keep it up and god bless and protect you.

@fickdiebullereiundnazihund5852

Жыл бұрын

@@ef2718 you re right

The last part was so interesting!

One Jew, Three opinions. Love the end conversation. Most Rabbis, even ultra-Orthodox would not say to die by your own hand. They should make national service for the Orthodox. There is no reason that their Torah study must be 24/7 they could do non-combat jobs for the Army. Most of those Haredi children don't know how to throw a basketball, let alone Krav Maga. If an Orthodox village was attacked, they will stand and pray?? Even the Jews in the ghettos of Europe, like Warsaw fought back. They had no food, no clothing but rags, no clean water. But they fought back. The idea of Judah Maccabee or the Prophets who died for their beliefs because the kings did not want to hear what the prophet said.

@mayavai2096

Жыл бұрын

You are an aggressive FAKE azkeNAZI ''jew''. Those HAredi are REAL jews and thus a very wise teenager compared to that filthy Zionist scumbag! Real Jews are against having a country, let alone stolen!!!

@shainazion4073

Жыл бұрын

@@mayavai2096 That boy was severely disillusioned, thank you for your kind words. Most Haredi Jews know ot is against Jewish Law to take your own life. What he said is against God. There is nothing in Torah that prevents a country at all, in fact it says in Torah that you should live in Israel, unless work or health doesn't allow. There was nothing stolen. All the land before 1948 was bought by Jews. The rest was not owned State land from the Ottomans. The Palestinian people owned 3.3% of the land in 1945. That is from the original Land Survey.

@cinnaminson0653

Жыл бұрын

The older man was wise the young guy is a fanatic.

great video

Mostly beautifull. A culture of life facing a cult of death.

@Linda43

Жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@thestruggleisallthatmatter8833

Жыл бұрын

Cult of death Judaism 🐖💨💩🇮🇱💩🇮🇱 they teach their children to hate Goys/Arabs

@niro4002

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@theoBaba773

Жыл бұрын

Do the math, who's gonna win??

@dogbert52

Жыл бұрын

@@theoBaba773 hey adolph. For the whole 1400 years of the culture of peace?

In the army i almost die many times but i feel like hero and bless and honour to serve my country Israel and my people the jews

@solvingpolitics3172

Жыл бұрын

What happened to you there? Part-2 did you get my list of movies, your thoughts on them?

@shanihodia6257

Жыл бұрын

@@solvingpolitics3172 they take my to arab village when i said i need to get to camp they not stop tge arab driver in the bus dont stop and take my in to the village i thought he and all the arabs on the bus will going to kill me

@shanihodia6257

Жыл бұрын

@@solvingpolitics3172 i dont get the list of movies 😊

@Србомбоница86

Жыл бұрын

That's honorable

@1995yuda

Жыл бұрын

נשמה יקרה אוהב אותך שתחיי חיים ארוכים

This is a really loaded question man

The last young guy was pretty arrogant but the elder but him in his place!

@mayavai2096

Жыл бұрын

The young guy is blessed by God and WISE! The elder was sooo dumb and a brainwashed zionist pig.

@shhiknopfler3912

Жыл бұрын

1 was pro Zionism the other was against. No putting anyone in his place

@1995yuda

Жыл бұрын

As an Israeli I'd smack him over the head in no time, he's an overly confident kid who lives in a zealot religious bubble and he doesn't represent Judaism or Jews at all, he's an anomaly.

@WorldifySanity

Жыл бұрын

The elder will be reporting him to the rabbi for admonishing. His views are totally incorrect and he needs to be re-educated.

Great ending!

Martyr?? There is no such thing in Jewish logic ..Life is precious to us so as to Worship HaShem and enjoy his blessings..as we look forward for the עולם הבא (The coming World with the Messiach)

@jacobbarker544

Жыл бұрын

We have martyrs in Judaism. We don't aspire to be one necessarily, but it's totally a concept we have.

@HyperSe

Жыл бұрын

Be ready to die and hide behind stones and גוג'י ברי 😊

That teenager is a classic case of yeshivah kid that takes hyperbole literally. The Chazon Ish did not mean that anyone should literally poison themselves. He was trying to make a point about how hard the Haredi community in Israel should fight the drafting of Haredi girls.

@shhiknopfler3912

Жыл бұрын

He probably used the simple wording of Yehereg v'al yaavor. He came up with the poisoning stuff

The last conversation went off the rails. What an end 😂

Corey when you ask questions you sometimes say it as a statement. I guess it's because in English you use "do you" to start a question, while in hebrew if you start questions with "do you" - it ment a statement

Just some clarification: The way that the question was posed in Meah Shaarim was not posed correctly and therefore not understood by them. Here is the stance according to Torah: 1. As a general rule, Judaism does not glorify death. 2. JUDAISM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE ISLAMIC CONCEPT OF SHAHID! 2. There does exist a concept of Martyrdom in Judaism, but it differs VASTLY from Islam's concept of Martyrdom. Islam believes (apparently) in a proactive Martyrdom as a first line of offense. Thus, many Muslims teach their kids to glorify blowing themselves up to kill their enemies. Judaism wants NONE of that. Martyrdom in Judaism, as a general rule, means ALLOWING oneself to be killed as a G-d Fearing JEW rather than convert to another faith. 3. As far as war, the first line of defense is to try to make peace. When that is not possible we look to defend ourselves. In very extreme cases where there is absolutely NO other choice, then martyrdom is allowed as a defensive strategy (NOT as an offensive one). The only case I can think of that is remotely similar is with Shimshon HaGibor and even there the circumstances differ greatly. Shimshon fought for years against the Philistines, but never as a suicide mission. However, once he was captured and put on display shackled to two pillars for the amusement and rejoicing of 15,000 Philistines over his capture and ultimate death, he realized that there was no possibility for him to escape. Thus, being that he was going to die anyways, he decide to take the opportunity to protect his people from further attacks by taking out as many Philistines with him as possible. His destroying the building killed almost all 15,000 people. Of course, he died in the process, but if he could have somehow escaped instead, he would have done so. His action of Martyrdom stopped the war for some time as a result. This, however, is VERY different than deciding to go on the offensive and attack the Philistines with kamikaze intentions. WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN DOING THAT! 4. As one woman stated, she could not fathom how any mother would want Shahid for her son. I do not know ANY Jew who would desire such actions as becoming a suicide bomber for their child. This is FAR from our thought process. It's UNTHINKABLE!!!!

@rokayamane2668

Жыл бұрын

5 you sound like an expert, can you bring me a verse in the Quran or hadith that support your statement that Muslims have to blow themselves up to fight their enemies 🤔? Bring me one verse!!! The question here should be: would you glorify the death of your child who fought for his country? Or if Israel is in real war and need all citizens to be involved;, would you send your child for the sake of saving this country or you keep your child away from the war?

@mhm92267

Жыл бұрын

@@rokayamane2668 1) Ask your Imman who tells you to blow yourself up and receive 72 Virgins. 2) We send our kids out to defend hoping they'll return from war. You send your kids out hoping they don't return. That is the difference!

@d.rothenberg8295

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely and beautifully expressed!! Tenets of Juaism as per the Torah. Thank you for speaking for us all 🙏🏻

@rokayamane2668

Жыл бұрын

@@mhm92267 bring me evidence…..waiting ….. we don’t want to hear your schizophrenic thoughts.

@user-vm9xz4kv9z

Жыл бұрын

1-Nope! That's not this works in Islam Sucide is a major sin, according to both the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet 2-Also, doesn't the Tanakh glorify Samson's suicide in order to kill the enemies?

Love that (mizrahi?) man in the end of the video

@joaoribeiro5938

Жыл бұрын

He ashkenazi

@kebenavez

Жыл бұрын

@@joaoribeiro5938 good to know!

The difference between both sides is abysmal, I do understand where the Palestinians come from (even if they are wrong) but their way of justifying murder is beyond my understanding.

@canmanlam

Жыл бұрын

You'll understand it when you live one day under the apartheid Israeli occupation. Don't give patronizing judgement when you haven't experienced what Palestinians go through every day

@starhopper1706

Жыл бұрын

@@canmanlam Your pals create their own reality.

@rses916

Жыл бұрын

So why did you guys fought against Hitler? Shouldnt have murdered those sweet nazis.

@starhopper1706

Жыл бұрын

@@rses916 False equivalence.

@joaoribeiro5938

Жыл бұрын

@@canmanlam Portuguese people know what is to live under Islamic/Arab dominance, their country was created to fight that dominance

I think the question should have been, ''would you be proud if your child,died protecting Israel?'' And I also think every citizen of every country would answer yes.But no one would be glad.

@miriambenshimon6029

Жыл бұрын

They wouldn’t be proud I think… they would be sad. That’s all

@myx0mop

Жыл бұрын

Palestinian Arabs celebrate and share candy in such instances. Sick.

@EatYourVegs

Жыл бұрын

As an Israeli I wouldn't be proud

@Athenian888

Жыл бұрын

@@EatYourVegs As a Greek, I can tell you that despite the great pain,every Greek parent would be proud. In the Illiad,there is an incident when an oracle advises the Trojans who were fighting, defending their country,not to go to battle because the ''signs'' were bad.Then Hector,their hero,stepped in and said ''There is only one proper ''sign'', fighting for and defending your beloved country''. And from what I know of your history, if some brave Jewish men and women hadn't fought with courage and passion for your land,a lot of them dying in the wars,you wouldn't have a country now. (Of course every effort should be made to avoid a war.)

@EatYourVegs

Жыл бұрын

@@Athenian888 Yes I agree. Not feeling pride doesn't mean we wouldn't do it. We just see it as tragedy

Israel has traded 1 kidnapped soldiers for 1000 Palestinian convicts, that's how highly life is valued in Judaism to this day.

@eclark3849

Жыл бұрын

wake up the evil 1s and their top puppets control all leaders and military groups they need chaos to control stupid humans

The young man on the bicycle is very confused and does not understand the question.

The Ten commandments Does NOT say "Thou shalt not kill" it says, "Thou shalt not Murder", When Israel was attacked on Yom Kippur, this question came up, the Rabbis all said that you must protect yourself, fighting back, is not murder. Life is the most important law. In no way should yoj attack someone without cause. If someone is firing on you, you protect yourself.

@tamaralexander9379

Жыл бұрын

There is also " If someone comes to kill you, rise and kill him first."

@shainazion4073

Жыл бұрын

@@tamaralexander9379 Thanks Tamar!! Have a Happy and Healthy!!!

A debate of the haredim was fascinating!

Wow Corey what a great video such an explosive ending ....enjoying your videos from Canada thanks again

@ef2718

Жыл бұрын

Fringe of the fringe of the fringe.

All due respect to the partipants of this video. They answered well.

Great video, and very interesting question. Getting down to a fundamental difference in the values and attitudes held within the two Faiths.

@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046

Жыл бұрын

Not between the faiths, between the cultures. In Islam, life has absolute priority and a sin is not even considered a sin if you are forced to do it with a gun to your head. In Judaism it is a bit different. But Israelis are influenced by Western thought where life is the highest good, because you only have one. Also, Israelis are aware of their relative safety and their better position in comparison with Palestinians. Though it is often said, Israel is not really under a threat, they are a nuclear armed power under the protection of the most powerful country on Earth. They don't think about losing their lives due to the conflict as much as Palestinians do, also, they are satisfied with the status quo. Being prepared to give up your life for liberty and a life in dignity and prosperity is different from giving up your life just to fight off some "terrorist" attack on 7 people who have nothing to do with you. I can relate to both positions, to a certain extent

@tamaralexander9379

Жыл бұрын

@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 Actaully Jews do think a lot about loosing their lives due to the conflicts thats why u see how majority vote right.

@Abilliph

Жыл бұрын

@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 but I don't get it... Israel isn't a direct threat to Palestinians who simply live their lives.. they have their own territories in which they would never even see an Israeli.. they are practically their own country in areas A and B, and their lives are certainly not threatened just for living there... So who in their right mind would want to give the lives of their children, to fight to expand its territory.. not even to fight for their lives. And even if they were in danger.. who would choose dying a martyr, when it's clearly possible to negotiate with Israel to gain independence. Also.. Israelis aren't really that safe. They might be strong, but they have lots of enemies, from the outside and from within.. one small mistake could lead to the country being cut in half. Israel doesn't have the manpower to fight all the Muslim world in all fronts.. and you are never expected to use nuclear weapons.. they are pretty much there for show. And the USA does whatever it wants. We see how much it helps Ukraine despite agreeing to protect it 30 years ago. They wouldn't risk their soldiers' lives to honor an agreement.. not even for Israel.

@jasonkemmerer5654

Жыл бұрын

@@Abilliph The Perfect Martyr already died 2,000 years ago so that we would not have to suffer the ultimate penalty for sin which is the second death also called "hell fire" and "eternal condemnation". but because of what This One did when HE died and tasted death for us; because of what HE did those who put their trust in HIM and believe that HE IS GOD who became a Human Man, died to make The Final Atonement for our sins, and rose from the dead 3 days later those who believe in these things and The One who did all this whose name is YESHUA HA MASHIACH (IE Jesus THE MESSIAH/CHRIST) those who put their trust in HIM will not have to taste the second death in everlasting hell fire but will past from death to life and have Eternal Life. and i only ask all here if not already done so to please make the wisest choice you will ever make by choosing to trust in THE MESSIAH/HA MASHIACH WHOSE NAME IS YESHUA/Jesus so that you too will have Eternal Life, peace greater than anything the world could give, love/compassion for your enemies, and Salvation for your very soul.

The end debate was interesting

Hi Corey, how do we send questions to you? I think I remember the email addresses, but I'm not positive I'm right, and don't see them featured in the description or on your channel page. Thanks

@arandomyoutubenerd276

Жыл бұрын

I think there is a video link in the description of the video which explains it but not sure

@ItsTheQs

Жыл бұрын

@@arandomyoutubenerd276 I don't believe so, but if you spot it, let me know. Thanks -

I LMFAO-s at the end. 🤣

Big difference. One side cherishes life and the other side fetishizes martyrdom as a goal in life.

@canmanlam

Жыл бұрын

The Difference is one side being the oppressed and the other being the occupier. Troll

@starhopper1706

Жыл бұрын

@@canmanlam Nope

@tamaralexander9379

Жыл бұрын

@@canmanlam Yes arabs are occupiers .

@canmanlam

Жыл бұрын

@@tamaralexander9379 😂😂😂😂. Even half of Israel doesn't believe that. Like I said you guys keep deluding yourselves. Keep making excuses. Keep dehumanizing Palestinians. Believe me nothing's gonna work.

@rses916

Жыл бұрын

@@starhopper1706 yep

At 2:13 the translation is wrong. It's the opposite of what she's actually saying. She said WE DON'T AGREE and the translation says LET'S AGREE.

@CoreyGilShusterAskProject

Жыл бұрын

You're right. and I sent it to two Israelis to check the subtitles. They missed it. I will correct somehow

@laurad3056

Жыл бұрын

@@CoreyGilShusterAskProject Thanks for your response! As an American who doesn't speak or understand Hebrew all that well I'm feeling way more proud of myself right now than the situation calls for. 😜

Corey I like when you are asking thr tough questions keep up the good work! if you are in Israel last week of december and first week of Jan let me know שוארמה או מעורב ירושלמי עלי !

Corey, there actually are 3 "cardinal sins" in Judaism that a Jew must be willing to die, but NOT do that sin. If somebody takes a gun to your head and says (1) kill this other Jew or I will kill you, (2) do this idol worship or I will kill you, (3) have sexually intercourse with a forbiden relation (such as with your mother, sister, daughter, a married woman, etc.), then, in all 3 cases you must give up your life but NOT commit that specify "cardinal sin". If that evil person does kill you, then you died as a "martyer". Also, any Jew killed for reason that he is a Jew, he is consider a "martyer".

It's scary that the concept of martyrdom in Islam is so loose and vague that it can be exploited by terrorists any time. recently, a guy mass shot a mosque in Iran knowing he's gonna be killed by police/security, but he still did it anyway, because he thought he's martyr for slaughtering and being killed by the people he considered heretics. all muslim should watch this video and learn from the jews about the concept of martyrdom. Nothing is wrong with martyrdom. martyrs exist and their death is honorable. I'd consider Marie Curie a martyr of science.

@josefabuaisheh6262

Жыл бұрын

The majority of Muslims know that this is not martyrdom, nor is any suicide attack especially on civilians! The only reason for those attacks is revenge and to hurt the other party as much as they hurt us! It most definetly is not Martyrdom, whether it is a sin, I think is debatable! Allthough like in Judaism, revenge killing is technically tolerated ( eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth). But they kill on the basis of nationality and not those who actually killed their loved ones! Most of our Martyrs are civilians who were killed by the IDF, some fighting and some caught in middle of it. So when we say, it is an honor to die a Martyr, it is a way to honor those who have died trying to defend us or that died because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time! It is a way to prepare oneself for the future, because with israel getting more agressive every year, it's highly likely that Palestinians will die a Martyr, especially Civilians! I and the majority of Muslims believe, those who commit suicide attacks on civilians are not considered Martyrs according to Islam!

@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046

Жыл бұрын

The concept IS kind of loose, in the sense that there is a discussion among scholars as to who is considered a martyr except in the obvious case of dying to fight off islamophobes who want your life. For example, a woman who dies fighting her ra.pist is also considered a martyr though she really didn't protect her faith, but just her body, purity and psychological health. However, there is a consense among scholars that terrorists can't be considered martyrs. They don't defend but harm Islam, abd they commit lots of sins while doing so (mur.der, tort.ure, sui.cide, just to name a few)

@principal_optimism

Жыл бұрын

​@@josefabuaisheh6262 definitely seen more than a handful of Hamas militants being hailed as martyrs 😅 and the whole Palestinian Authority Martyr fund thing sits uncomfortably with me.

@tamaralexander9379

Жыл бұрын

@@josefabuaisheh6262 NO, they kill on the basis of religion.

@tytiw516

Жыл бұрын

Types of martyrdom in islam: Besides being martyred in the path of Allah Almighty, there are seven types of martyrs as well. 1. The one who passes away due to plague 2. The one who passes away due to drowning 3. The one who passes away in pleurisy 4. The one who passes away due to an abdominal disease 5. The one who passes away due to being burnt 6. The one who passes away due to being crushed under something 7. The woman who dies in the state of ’Jum’. (Abu Dawood, vol. 3, pp. 253, Hadees 3111) Further forms: 1. The one who passes away in the state of travelling 2. The one who dies due to the ulceration of the lungs (a disease that forms wounds on the lungs and blood oozes out of the mouth) 3. The one who passes away by falling from a riding animal or due to epilepsy 4. The one who passes away in fever 5. The one who is killed while protecting the right of his 6. Wealth, 7. Life, 8. Family (wife, children, etc.) 9. The one who is mutilated by a beast 10. The one who is imprisoned by a king (i.e. ruler) unjustly and dies 11. the one who is beaten and so dies due to it 12. The one who passes away due to the bite of a harmful injurious animal (e.g. snake, etc.) 13. The one who passes away while seeking Islamic knowledge 14. A Muazzin who calls out Azan to reap reward 15. A truthful trader 16. The one who struggles to provide for his family, makes them act upon Shari’ah, and feeds them Halal 17. The one who reads اَللّٰھُمَّ بِارِکْ لِیْ فِی الْمَوْتِ وَفِیْمَا بَعْدَ الْمَوْتِ twenty-five (25) times daily 18. The one who offers Doha Salah, keeps three fasts every month and does not miss Witr Salah whether travelling or not 19. The one who fastens a horse on the border to fight disbelievers 20. The one who recites Surah Yaseen every night 21. The one who falls asleep in the state of Wudu and passes away 22. The one who recites Salat upon the Noble Prophet صَلَّى اللّٰهُ عَلَيْهِ وَاٰلِهٖ وَسَلَّم hundred times 23. The one who prays for embracing martyrdom sincerely 24. The one who passes away on the day of Friday 25. The one who recites اَعُوْذُ بِاللّٰەِ السَّمِیْعِ الْعَلِیْمِ مِنَ الشَّیْطٰنِ الرَّجِیْمِ three times and then recites the last three Ayahs of Surah Al-Hashr in the morning.

You should've let the two haredim at the end finish arguing

August 1 is the Feast day on our liturgical calendar for the The “Holy Maccabean Martyrs” in memory of Eleazar and Hannah a jewish woman and her 7 sons who refused to eat pork and were tortured to death during the persecution by king Antiochus IV Epiphanes, preceding the Maccabean Revolt.

Epic

Lol at the end things got really heated

Jewish people have a hard time with the root word מ-ו-ת (death) especially if you connect it to their children. It's too harsh.

@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046

Жыл бұрын

Well it is always harsh when connected to one's children. In any language

@Србомбоница86

Жыл бұрын

​@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 no ,not to Muslims

@rses916

Жыл бұрын

@@Србомбоница86 go back to Poland and shut it about matters that dont concern you.

@Noxcho-li8pn

Жыл бұрын

@@Србомбоница86 i mean You Gypsis sell your own to anything related to money

@Србомбоница86

Жыл бұрын

@@Noxcho-li8pn gypsies lmfao 🤣

Corey, just because he has a beard, does not make him a billy goat. Not all Haredi are telling you law. You should have asked Rabbi Breitowitz. He knows Jewish law.

@Linda43

Жыл бұрын

Rabbi Breitowitz is a Hareidi Jew. The majority of Hareidi Jews are knowledgeable about Judaism.

@shainazion4073

Жыл бұрын

@@Linda43 Thanks for the assist. Corey has had Rabbi Breitowitz on various videos before. He is very knowledgeable about Torah law.

@Linda43

Жыл бұрын

@@shainazion4073 Obviously Corey payed little attention.

@CoreyGilShusterAskProject

Жыл бұрын

I don't ask experts, I ask random people on the street. If I happen to meet someone who turns out to be an expert on a subject, I am happy to ask them the questions I have. But I am not searching them out. The point of the channel is to ask random people and get a lot of different views

@CoreyGilShusterAskProject

Жыл бұрын

@@Linda43 I love Brietowitz but the channel is not about asking experts, its about asking regular people

Hi Corey, regarding the decrease in views you mentioned: a couple weeks ago, I hadn’t been receiving any notifications for your videos for like 2 months, and I genuinely thought you were taking a break from posting. I was missing your videos! To my surprise, one day one of your recent videos came up in my recommendations and guess what, I was no longer subscribed to your channel! And you had actually been posting! It wasn’t me unsubscribing, and if I’m not mistaken, this is the 2nd time this happens to me with your channel! Shame on KZread… Seems like they’re sabotaging your channel for some reason… 🤷🏻‍♀️

@lizberezin2919

7 ай бұрын

Same here.i also thought you were taking a break.

That's the big difference between Jews and Islams point of view and their mentality.

GOOD ANSWERS, i appreciated you from Turkey, you are contrast of palestinians in this topic, good job.

@canmanlam

Жыл бұрын

It's different being the oppressed from being the occupier . You should understand the situation before making such stupid conclusions.

@starhopper1706

Жыл бұрын

@@canmanlam The Arabs do the attacking. They are oppressing the Israelis that have to baby sit their b s. And you can't occupy a country that has never existed.

@timurcan2210

Жыл бұрын

@@canmanlam you are stupid indeed, READ HISTORY FIRST when you write these idiot things. We are Turkish, arabs backstabbed us and we hate them verrrry much because of that. Go on Israel.

@canmanlam

Жыл бұрын

@@timurcan2210 ur an illiterate idiot. Learn some grammar before you write. As clueless as all other Turks. No history no culture. You live on stolen Greek land.

@timurcan2210

Жыл бұрын

@@canmanlam ARAB KEEP AWAY POINT

Wow. That girl at 4:00 😭 👏

We have two religions here from the same Semitic stock. One sanctifies life and peace and the other death and war. Life will overcome death.

@SirEnzo371

Жыл бұрын

The irony is, Islam was literally born because they believe God's message keeps getting diluted because they're not devout enough to him. So Jews valuing this life rather than the next is exactly the message Islam portrays anyways.

@malkyrottenberg-schonfeld7205

Жыл бұрын

It literally says in the torah and you should choose life, not death. How exactly is this diluting Gds messages?!

This is interesting. I didn't know that Judaism had any formal concept of martyrdom.

@solvingpolitics3172

Жыл бұрын

They don’t!

@ForeverRepublic

Жыл бұрын

We don't. The only thing I can think of are specific blessings said for Jews killed as a result of antisemitism.

@jdub2378

Жыл бұрын

The last interview was the best part! I’m going to have to rewatched a few times, though! Sparks starting flying and I couldn’t soak in all the words! I am in my second year of learning Hebrew and I heard interviews are one of the best ways to learn. BeEzratHaShem

@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046

Жыл бұрын

Jews are required to rather give up their lives than to commit idolatry, murder or adultery. But I am not sure if people who gave up their lives in those cases are considered martyrs

@principal_optimism

Жыл бұрын

​@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 They're not exactly... While not branded with a title, the Jews of Masada were immortalised for their bravery in defending their faith. The Torah and Jewish people highly praise those who maintain their faith against strong coercion, even if (and one could argue "especially if") that coercion leads to death (because it could be seen to elevate the bravery/show absolute commitment). This drive, though, to see commitment in the face of death as exemplary isn't religious in nature but human.

The Torah was written at a time when there was no concept of Paradise, but rather total destruction or a shadowy afterlife in Sheol. Therefore obviously it does not encourage reckless actions to get oneself killed as though there is an afterlife to compensate it. By the time of the books of the Maccabees, the belief in resurrection already existed, so people were more willing to die for that defensive martyrdom (death for refusing to apostatize to Greek paganism). In Christianity, there was also that concept of course, since it's also from the late second Temple period. In Islam, influenced by the increasingly aggressive imperial Christian propaganda of the time, martyrdom started to be more acceptable for offensive wars. And then finally Islam took the final step to promote death in the battlefield, even in aggressive, offensive wars for the spread of the religion and the caliphate, as not just acceptable, but the supreme goal in life, further seduced by the carnal descriptions of the afterlife. Sad...

@hanna319

Жыл бұрын

FALSE! There is heaven and hell in Judaism (although completely different from the Christian and Muslim concept), such concepts have always existed in Judaism and in the Torah (oral Torah). There is no nation that was murdered for its faith and gave its life for it more than the Jewish people. And they did not do it for the reward (heaven), but to sanctify the name of God.

@tFighterPilot

Жыл бұрын

@@hanna319 The Oral torah was written after Christianity existed and was influenced by it

@hanna319

Жыл бұрын

@@tFighterPilot Nope. oral Torah and the written Torah are ONE Torah, we've received them BOTH from God at Mount Sinai.

@tFighterPilot

Жыл бұрын

@@hanna319 The rabbis quoted in the Talmud don't even agree with each other.

@hanna319

Жыл бұрын

@@tFighterPilot Talmud is all about understanding the oral Torah. Oral Torah is the Mishna, based on THAT, the Talmud was written.

The old dude at the end was having none of that kill your own children bs.

In last video, secular Jews so angry to young ortodox Jews 🗿

@ef2718

Жыл бұрын

Both were orthodox.

One of the points of the story of Abraham being asked to sacrifice Isaac is that G-d doesn't human sacrifice.

Ok I have to say, I straight up burst out laughing when I saw this title 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 then I went to watch lol it’s so ABSURD to ask but I guess it’s just absurd to us if someone is asking this seriously .. but that takes a minute after the initial brain explosions after hearing the question 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

The culture of Life ✡️

The argument at the end was perfect. Jews value life. The closest we come to the concept of martyrdom is to argue about it! Actually, there is a concept of kiddush HaShem, sanctifying G-d's name, which we can do in many positive ways. However, there are circumstances in which we should die rather than violate three specific prohibitions: idolatry, sexual prohibitions such as incest or adultery, and murder, and this is also considered kiddush HaShem.

Many martyrs, ritual breakers, oath takers, sacrificial lambs, volunteers, and hero worshippers hard-core yeah.

At 3:16 you should have translated "לא תרצח" as "You shall not *murder* " not "shall not 'kill' "

@tbishop4961

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think this?

@tbishop4961

Жыл бұрын

שֹׁפֵךְ דַּם הָאָדָם, בָּאָדָם דָּמוֹ יִשָּׁפֵךְ: כִּי בְּצֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים, עָשָׂה אֶת-הָאָדָם

@guywhousesapseudonymonyout4272

Жыл бұрын

@@tbishop4961 It's the most accurate translation. The Torah says לא תרצח not לא תהרג

@tbishop4961

Жыл бұрын

@@guywhousesapseudonymonyout4272 I didn't ask what you think is accurate. I asked why

We want more to hear from mea shearim

@dogbert52

Жыл бұрын

Vladtepeswasright#

What a difference between them and the Arabs 😂😂😂😂 really tells us a lot about the conflict

@PodcastCentral333

Жыл бұрын

@@Userm2155 wrong because European Jews are originally from the Middle East

It’s ironic how In Arabic and in Hebrew agreed on the same word for dying (Mat/yamoot) lmao

@1995yuda

Жыл бұрын

It's not Ironic bruv they're both Semitic languages which share many words

@winxclubstellamusa

7 ай бұрын

It’s because they are both Semitic languages and people. Arabic and Hebrew share a lot of words.

The message of the story of Isaac is *not* to kill your child for a god... remember the bit at the end where the angel intervenes? The point is god would never want you to commit human sacrifice in his name. Masada is also viewed as a tragedy, not something to celebrate.

Rabbi Karelitz sounds nuts

So many ppl did not understand the question. Would you die for your country or faith or honor; die defending. The question was not do you glorify death in judaism.

Becoming a “shahid” (martyr) in Islam basically contributes to what ancient Israelites would recognize as “Tikkun Olam” and the hesitancy of potential martyrdom is what caused all but 2 of the 12 spies to lose hope in entering the Holy Land under Moses (God’s peace and blessings upon him). Muslims believe and trust in God and we aim to serve Him in order to bring to fruition an Earth of His liking.

@dogbert52

Жыл бұрын

Tikkun olam by bl owing up busses for of je wish kids. WOW.

@moosa86

Жыл бұрын

@dogbert52 My friend I’m not saying that I am justifying individual cases of violence, etc. I’m only trying to give proper context to the Jewish audience members who don’t understand what motivates Muslims. *PS:* The fact that Muslims were stewards of that land for as long as they were and were granted victory over the Romans when they were (by the permission of The Most High) is alluded to in Deuteronomy 21:15-17 were God informs us that the descendants of Ishmael have a legal claim to the birthright via their ancestor Abraham (God’s peace and blessings upon them). Instead of viewing each other as enemies Muslims and Jews should work together in spreading knowledge of the oneness of God and how He prophesied many things in His scriptures that have come to fruition.

@yjlion

Жыл бұрын

No, Tikkun means atonement, and Olam means world. It means doing something good for the world. Nothing to do with dying for a holy cause. This is what happens when people google stuff.

@moosa86

Жыл бұрын

@yjlion The atonement is of our souls in improving the world. By becoming a martyr (like many of the Israelite warriors who fought during the many battles during the Exodus) the world is improved and the soldier’s soul is an atonement that serves to lay the foundation for God’s divine guidance for humanity to be established in the land and eventually disseminated to other civilizations, etc. Do you deny that the Israelite warriors who cleansed Canaan of the unrighteousness of idolatry, witchcraft, and child sacrifice were partaking in “Tikkun Olam?”

For "Shahid" the death is likely and desirable end and target. For hero in Jewish understanding the protection of other is the target. And death is the risk. Unlikely and undesirable. You are not a hero just because you die and you can be a hero and stay alive. What's so hard to get?

ow did you manage to get three wholly different sects in Judaism, including the ultra-extreme religious Yerushalmi, into one frame?? Respect, man. But in Judaism there is an adage: he who saves one life, it is as if he saves the entire world. This should tell you just how much life is sacred in Judaism.

@happydillpickle

Жыл бұрын

You know, in Islam, they have exactly the same words as ours! It's written in the Quran. Which is why I have trouble understanding those Palestinian parents who answered "yes" in the other video. The other part, of course, being who destroys a life, it is as though they have destroyed the entire world, is part of both our traditions.

@lihigers1290

Жыл бұрын

@@happydillpickle Yeah, well, in the Quran it says also that you can take 4 women if you can support them and if you can keep them all in peace with each other and if they all approve. I don't think that this is what is happening in reality *shrug*

@happydillpickle

Жыл бұрын

@@lihigers1290 I think it must be difficult to get approval for that one...I remember Corey did a video on that too.

@dogbert52

Жыл бұрын

@@happydillpickle both in islam and judaism , a life = a life of a mus lim / je w .

@shainazion4073

Жыл бұрын

The Muslims stole that quote also.

In Judaism we do have Shaheed, but they are called Kaddoshim, which is very different than Shaheed in Islam. Kaddosh, from my understanding and what I have been taught, are those who have an obligation to save someone at all costs -- if those people who are to be saved number a Minyan or above. Martyrs in Judaism are heroes not for dying, but heroes for saving others and self-sacrifice. Even those who do not die are still considered to be Kaddoshim. Those who are killed for the sake of their identity are also considered Kaddoshim, people who die before they are willing to forsake their identity. The definition of a Martyr in Judaism is, "A holy one", one who dedicated their lives to goodness. To my understanding, Shaheed in Islam, is the sanctification of death, whereas in Judaism it is the memory of life.

Slight correction to the first person's comment: There are 3 situations for which a Jew must die rather than perform a specific act. One must die rather than commit impermissible sexual act - one must die rather than kill another person under coercion - and one must die rather than commit an act of idol worship under coercion. It is true that we do not have a cult of martyrdom - but there are these 3 occasions when one must choose death rather than perform these immoral actions.

For Judaism matters how you achieve your goals. For others it doesn´t what you do to achieve your goals.

What the first guy said also counts for muslims. It is just they can ot explain it as wel as that person

The orthodox ones are the most interesting on a record

9:56 אברהם לא עקד את יצחק, הוא רק הועמד למבחן אך ברגע האחרון אלוקים ציווה "אל תשלח ידך אל הנער". אם אתם לא יודעים בוודאות את הסיפור עדיף לא להגיד כי זה סתם מטעה את הרבים... Abraham didn't kill Isaac. The commandment was to test loyalty to God (are you willing to sacrifice the most important thing in your life?), but God did not want Abraham to kill Isaac, it was only to test Abraham's loyalty to God. And once Abraham proved his faithfulness, God commanded him not to kill the child

God wants life preserved! To make someone a martyr and praise and glorify them for the ACT is only going to encourage more crazy violence. ✌

@josefabuaisheh6262

Жыл бұрын

Most Palestinian Martyrs did not choose to become Martyrs... The most common Martyr is the shot civilian! Those who attack innocent civilians just to cause pain and revenge their loved ones, can't really be called Marytrs!

@starhopper1706

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@@josefabuaisheh6262 Stop acting like the ones that do it intentionally are not glorified and paid for it, and like most in your society don't fully approve of ALL of it. Your side glorifies de@th, purposefully encourages your own children to put themselves in danger, then u cry when they are harmed and try to demonize Israelis for defending themselves from that insanity. How about stop all that?

@Abilliph

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@@josefabuaisheh6262 I'm not so sure about that. Civilian deaths are are more common in Gaza during war times.. and the ratio is usually about 1 to 1.. which is not bad considering urban conflicts in hostile countries. In the West Bank people rarely die because of the conflict, and almost all of them are militants (and I consider anyone who attacks first as a militant.. including rock throwers.. which also rarely die). When an innocent civilian does get hurt, his body is paraded throughout the streets, and the whole world hears about that.. like with the reporter.

@josefabuaisheh6262

Жыл бұрын

@@starhopper1706 Yeah no... this is only propaganda... We most definetly don't promote dying and killing to our children... And those who actually celebrate are also but a tiny minority... it's also more a celebration that it happens to you instead of to us! But yes their families now have to take this burden, and they still honor them... it's a certain way of grief! If this conflict didn't exist they be still alive! So they try to blame Israel for the revenge attack from their child!

@josefabuaisheh6262

Жыл бұрын

@@Abilliph Yes it happens daily that an innocent body is transported through the streets! With shereen it was different! She was special, and she will be mourned for quite some time...

Ask them is it okay to killing innocent people of the land in order to occupy that land for yourself?.

@ro6493

Жыл бұрын

The "innocent" people you're talking about often hold illegal weapons and want to hurt civillians. They play victim when they are held responsible for their actions. They "cry" that they're being treated badly while they teach their children to kill all the jews. They are hypocrites and so are you, or maybe you're just a fool. Israel has the right to protect itself, and it will always do that

would have loved to hear more about the last 2 guys.

@d.rothenberg8295

Жыл бұрын

Part of a tiny, but noisy, sect within the Lithuanian stream of Orthodoxy, who are anti-Zionist aka anti State of Israel and all it contains. Similar in principle to the Neturei Karta sect in the small Meah She'arim Quarter of Jerusalem.. Not representative of any one else

@shhiknopfler3912

Жыл бұрын

@@d.rothenberg8295 nobody is representing of anyone else. 2 Jews 3 opinions.

Masada is more of a myth than an example of martyrdom. The legend may not even be exactly true. There is only one account of the event, by Flavius Josephus. In any event, it was ignored for centuries and then became a symbol of Jewish national heroism after the site was excavated in the 1960s. Furthermore, there is much discussion about whether such a mass suicide would even be warranted.

There is no reason for having nation-states anymore. They are obsolete. Few people want to admit that, but questions like this show that most want it.

Sabbath is rest on seventh day of the week accordingly the Bible. Saturday is seventh day of the week accordingly now widely used Julian/Gregorian calendar that is based on Babylonian calendar and not Biblical/Hebraic.

The question here should be: would you glorify the death of your child who fought for his country? Or if Israel is in real war and need all citizens to be involved;, would you send your child for the sake of saving this country or you keep your child away from the war?

Therein lies the difference.

I wonder if the Islamic mothers and fathers who say they are happy for their martyred sons are really happy for their sons to die for some country or is it just a statement, an act purely out of fear of to be rejected by society. I wonder if the same logic applies to Muslims in Islamic societies, who perhaps fear leaving Islam in their faith and do not dare to talk about such a thing, but honestly want to leave the dogma.

@solvingpolitics3172

Жыл бұрын

Yes they are, it is how one moves up in Palestinian society. Islamic death cult.

@chugalongway01

Жыл бұрын

You are projecting. The Zionist force their young to become murderers for the Israeli Occupation Force Israel is 4 X more militarised than Nazi Germany.

@dogbert52

Жыл бұрын

To answer this , you must understand what is belife. The beliver , from an early age , considers paradise in the afterlife as the pinnacle of existance. So mothers and fathers of ji hadis are very happy plus in gaza and the PA they get tons of cash for each je w their son mur dered.

@lotcam4046

9 ай бұрын

Then why fighter who are Daredevils only emerge from the muslims

The true God is a God of Life not death❤

قل يا أيها الذين هادوا إن كانت لكم الدار الآخرة خالصه من دون الناس فتمنوا الموت إن كنت صادقين، ولا يتمنونه ابداً بما قدمت أيديهم والله عليم بالظالمين ...❤☪️🕋

@whatsgood3854

Жыл бұрын

If that's your religion you might consider switching it

yea not everyone is a death cult