I don’t know why, but I really do like the overall look of Snyder films. The way they look is so distinct.

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

That's part of my love for his shit. You cannot watch a scene from a Zack Snyder film and NOT KNOW Zack Snyder directed it.

@MarkFilipAnthony

3 жыл бұрын

His background is commerials and art history. His is well trained in making every second and frame have meaning and impact, both visually and symbolically. In commercials u only have a few seconds to capture the audience attention and sell a product/story, and in art history like old paintings one single picture, like a wall or tappestry, needs to tell a whole story using composition, symbols, allocation, nostalgia, mythology and associations. U can see him taking cinema as a "visual storytelling medium" quite literally as he convays his stories through visuals more than dialouge. Even his dialouge seldom are straight forward and only says exactly what is needed both narrativly and symbolically for the characters anf plot. He ofteb dwells ik symbolig layers, which is a storytelling trooe very common used in paintings but also very frequently used in comic books. Simoly because page numbers, sizes and frames is usually the currency in a comicbook as a medium. U usally have limited with space, so u tell your story visually more than through dialouge. The same is what snyder naturally does in all his films. His visuals are his stories

@brickfilmtime4736

3 жыл бұрын

iamthatroby I mean for me, MOS felt more like a Malick film if anything, until the destruction, I would argue it’s his most non-Snydery film yet.

@shotbro4998

3 жыл бұрын

MarkFilipAnthony he also directed music videos, one each for Morrissey and Peter Murphy :D

@MarkFilipAnthony

3 жыл бұрын

@@shotbro4998 true that😁

Can we even call Justice League a Snyder film? Lol

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

God no. I just wanted an excuse to publicly say "fuck geoff johns"

@alvinanis3006

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobyFN2169dtf Lmaooo

@KingOfKingz819

3 жыл бұрын

Not yet

@calebbradford7906

3 жыл бұрын

Now we can

@vishnualcyone9170

3 жыл бұрын

NOW WE CAN!!! WOOHOO!!!

Before I watch this - 1. Watchmen 2. Dawn of the Dead 3. 300 4.BvS 5. Man Of Steel 6. Sucker Punch - he makes spectacle-heavy action films with an admittedly childish stylistic perspective. His films are the closest thing I’ve gotten to how it feels to play with action figures as a kid.

@YggdrasilAudio

3 жыл бұрын

That scene in Shazam when the kid smashes the Batman and Superman figurines together sums it up pretty well.

@lospolloshermanos6800

2 жыл бұрын

@@SkinnySant because the writing is awful

There's just something about Snyder's films that I just have such a love for even when they're not great they just kind of make me happy (i also love Watchmen so much it was my first experience with a superhero movie that made me feel uneasy and that experience really stuck with me)

@Jakeyisdead

3 жыл бұрын

I also have 2 Watchmen tattoos (the Comedians bloody badge and Rorschach)

So, what's your ranking of Snyder's filmography? ALSO: let me know if you guys wanna see me rank the work of anyone else?!?! Tarantino is an obvious one, but I’m keen to hear from y’all!

@LoverboyMedia

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoverboyMedia best ranking i've seen - even beats mine

@lukepringle4635

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Roby. Respect the hustle man. How about ranking Nolans movies with the recently release of tenet??

@starlord6433

3 жыл бұрын

How about David Fincher or Wes Anderson?

@ajhaggstrom

3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see you tackle Richard Linklater and Terrence Malick (who I would not be surprised if an influence on Snyder)

Filmmakers, actors, musicians and crew: “He’s the nicest guy. he inspired me to take the role, hes so easy to work with.” Angry fans: “he ruined my boy. He’s a misogynist, AYN RanD!” Something doesn’t add up here....

@conorowens8382

3 жыл бұрын

Alex Palamito this is a strawman argument and really faulty logic. There’s a major difference between being a nice guy (what you described in your first paragraph) and being a bad director (what you imply people say). They’re not mutually exclusive and being one does not have much bearing on the other. Some of the greatest and influential directors of all time were assholes. While that bad behaviour shouldn’t be tolerated, they nevertheless were gifted directors (thinking of Hitchcock, Kubrick and to a certain extent Tarantino. Hell, even Spielberg has been reported to be harsh sometimes)

@YggdrasilAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@conorowens8382 Completely agree, I mean, Adam Sandler's late comedies are notoriously bashed on the Internet, but from what I've heard, he's the sweetest guy. You can dislike someone creatively even if they're alledgedly nice and good to work with, and vice versa. Honestly I think Snyder is a good director, my big problem with him is that he overreacts whenever he gets criticized.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@YggdrasilAudio Well, he doesn't overreact. He was confused and questions himself that those "criticisms" are nitpicks or actual criticism.

@YggdrasilAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@kartikadewi3270 Is it a particular interview you're referring to here?

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@YggdrasilAudio yes, but I can not find the video from which I remember the video 6 was years old.

I absolutely love Sucker Punch, it's Zack Snyder in his purest form and i'm all for that

"Until 'Joker', I don't think we had a big comic book movie that purely felt like the directors vision." Um.... The Dark Knight? (abridged quote, I know)

@SuperBeybladerocks

3 жыл бұрын

I think he means like post MCU

@YggdrasilAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperBeybladerocks Um...The Dark Knight Rises?

@conorowens8382

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah its a stupid comment. Sam Rami's Spiderman trilogy oozes with vision and personality. Kickass and Kingsmen both really feel like Mathew Vaughn as well. Logan, Deadpool and the rest of the xmen movies (whether you like them or hate them) have a 'feel' to them thats significantly different to, say, the MCU. Hell, even movies within the MCU can sometimes have unique vision. The first Iron Man movie was pretty tame and grounded compared to current MCU standards, and James Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy could only be written by him.

@YggdrasilAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@conorowens8382 Oh my god, completely forget about Kingsman, now that is a movie that just gets better and better. I don't know how serious he is when he makes that statement though, because he throws around the budget of 300 million, but "Joker" had a budget of approximately 70M, at most.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@YggdrasilAudio Ironically, Kingsman and Men in Black are from marvel comics.

Zack Snyders films are art and if the critics won't understand............. So be it.

@ABCD-ex5td

3 жыл бұрын

Snyder films are art?? WTF? You should watch more films.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@ABCD-ex5td by Visual storytelling is already proof that it's art NOT ONLY WRITING Is important for MOVIES to be artistic

@ABCD-ex5td

3 жыл бұрын

@@kartikadewi3270 every director does visual storytelling. Visual storytelling and good cinematography isn't the same thing. Snyder does good cinematography but he isn't much of successful in storytelling.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@ABCD-ex5td if he is not successful, then what can you tell about 300, Legends of the guardians, then??

@kartikadewi3270

2 жыл бұрын

@@ABCD-ex5td again , visual storytelling is art since film movie cinema is ALL VISUAL MEDIUM, not an audiobook.

I get some inspiration from great established directors like Zack Snyder because he came up with a totally different cinematography and unique style -James Cameron

Been pretty keen for your ranking of the Snyder-Man.

Rankings for Edgar Wright, The Coens or PTA would be cool. plus it would make you watch the great stuff they've made if you haven't yet.

Snyder Cut can't get here soon enough.

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

You’re tellin me

Zack's take popular themes and gives them MYTH.

It says alot that other good filmmakers praise him. The haters have no idea what his movies are about and the high level of self awarness in them.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, Zack's 5 movies are in MY TOP 10 MOVIES EVER MADE

I think I prefer his more recent films (Watchmen up to the present). Before Watchmen, I think he was still in the phase of trying to better his style of filmmaking. Just look at 300 and Sucker Punch, almost every shot is a slow-mo with a speed rack. But with Watchmen, it started getting a bit "cleaner." The uses of those film techniques started to feel more purposeful rather than just random creative choices. That's my opinion anyway, still a huge fan of his work. Been a day one DCEU fan and MoS is one of my top films of the 2010s.

@purplevertig0

3 жыл бұрын

Yh dude ik there's the whole meme of Snyders slo mo but I think recently you can tell he's become selective with his style and really begun to use it for storytelling rather than spectacle

I LOVED 300 when it was released and it’s crazy how its style inspired so many films that came after it. None of those films came even close to the beautiful style of 300.

enjoying the videos. thanks my dude

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

hey, if you keep enjoying them, i'll keep making them :)

The way he films is actually incredible

My personal top 3 is: 1. BVS: UE 2. Man Of Steel 3.Watchmen

@doomsday4311

3 жыл бұрын

1. 300 2. Watchmen 3. Man of Steel

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@doomsday4311 those 3 you choose are in my top 10 movies ever made in my opinion

We need more awesome video essayists like you. You're the best. 🥺😭

Hey Roby could you make Stanley Kubrick?

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Kubs would be quite intense... but sure

@bacht4799

3 жыл бұрын

iamthatroby Alex Cox.. especially Repo Man 😎

Seriously amazing video and I can't wait for the Snyder Cut!

Hey, we are on the same boat. I have never apologized for enjoying his movies (isn't that one of the reasons why forms of entertainment are made?). In my list though, 300 and SuckerPunch switch places. Visually I love SP, but prefer the battle scenes in 300

Also i think a Jake Gylennhaal ranking would be rad

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

well #1 is obviously bubble boy

@Jakeyisdead

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobyFN2169dtf Look im not one to argue, that film is a cinematic masterpiece.

It's funny when I saw BvS in theaters I felt the same exact way. I sat there when it was done, I didn't know how to feel. Then I saw it a bunch more times and each time I understood it better and like it more, now it not only one of my favorite comic book movies, it just one of my favorite movies

14:00 That's for all the people that say Zack Snyder "didn't get" Watchmen or "missed the point"

I hope you saw the extended cut of Sucker Punch... While still not Snyder's original vision, it's the closest to what he had in mind... God I love that film and I love that you liked it more than 300

Batman vs Superman is his best work without a doubt for me.

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

I guess Watchmen just holds up insanely well for me (hard to believe it, but the film is bloody 11 years old!).

@brucew565

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobyFN2169dtf Watchmen is my second favourite Snyder movie. 🙂

@benakinnusi2518

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah bvs was fucking insane. I just wish we seen the ultimate cut in theatres

@doomsday4311

3 жыл бұрын

Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition was incredible

Have you ever thought of doing a video about the Cohen Bros, Marc Webb, Denis Villeneuve's other films, American Graffiti, or Jon Favreau's Chef? Regardless, great video! I look forward to whatever comes next.

@bacht4799

3 жыл бұрын

T I L B maybe he do one on Alex Cox .. Repo Man.. Alex Cox is lot like Snyder .. he makes movies there either are great or bad.. and a lot of people has opinions about the guy.. so maybe that next time.. and yes Coen Brothers would be great..

@TILB9

3 жыл бұрын

@@bacht4799 Love Repo Man and Walker, and Highway Patrolman is criminally underrated (pun intended). So if that's his next video, awesome!

My favorite director for sure, I love all of his movies but as a DC fan MoS and BvS are the top ones for sure, followed by Sucker Punch. I'm waiting on that cut of Sucker Punch with the real ending lol. Basically: 1. MoS-BvS(-ZSJL), 2. Sucker Punch, 3. Watchmen, 4.300, 5. Dawn of The Dead, 6. Legends of Ga'Hool

One of your best videos Roby! Love it!

I’m not well-versed in Zack’s entire filmography. That said, I enjoy 300. I respect the fullness of his images. He is a uniquely gifted mind for the DC films. His problems there stem from his utter lack of surface sentimentality. He presents those movies as realistic epics.when the urge is to stick to a well worn safe playlist.

5:30 what do you mean by “moments over scenes”?

I'd love to hear you talk about Nicolas Winding Refn and Robert Eggers. Them and snyder are my 3 favorite directors.

@robinnadjiZ

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Eggert only has two movies... lol

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@robinnadjiZ maybe Dimitri Gonzales love those 2 movies so much.

@GlareBoxTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@robinnadjiZ Nosferatu (Egger's next film after The Northman) better be as good as it's hyped up to be.

perfect ranking

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, my guy

Question. We are all excited to watch JL Synder Cut, but do you think there’s a risk of us convincing ourselves it’s great on first viewing? I’m think like a lot of people did when they watched Phantom Menace for the first time.

It's awesome to come back to this channel

My Ranking would be: Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition Man of Steel Watchmen Director’s Cut Dawn of The Dead 300 Legend of The Guardians Sucker Punch But overall I find enjoyment in all of his movies,Zack Snyder is one of my favorite Directors of all time and I’ve been a fan of him since I saw Man of Steel back in 2013

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Seeing a lot of BvS’s up top :)

@sebcenteno

3 жыл бұрын

iamthatroby BvS is my favorite comic book movie of all time and one of my favorite movies of all time I absolutely adore everything about that film

I unapologetically absolutely adore batman v Superman. It is my favourite superhero movie ever made. A epic fucking masterpiece. And I’ll defend it until the day I die.

Denis Villeneuve? Not sure I spelled that right.

I kinda like how divisive he is. His aesthetic is really unique.

Legend of the Guardians isn't really a kids movie. Look at how dark and violent it is, I mean Metal Beak gets stabbed at the end.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

and in my theathers, LOTG is the first animated film that is pg 13.

@leeobrien2004

3 жыл бұрын

@@kartikadewi3270 That's cool.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@Bobo Boy Sadly, WB didn't want that Because THEY HATE ZACK SNYDER. It's Sad. But I wish Zack can do another sequel story for Sorin again.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@Bobo Boy well for me, Snyder definitely gave me 6 perfect films so much that I think that His weakest film is his flawed film only . which is his Sucker Punch extended cut. I still love that movie, but that movie is below 95 but above 80. It Had Perfect Ideas I wanted but execution, Not so amazing or great but not bad at all.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeobrien2004 in my opinion, Zack's 5 movies are in my TOP 10 MOVIES EVER MADE

Man of Steel is probably my favourite film ever, or joint top. It's fantastic in everyway.

Great. Except for two movies I agree with the ranking and I completely respect it. Awesome video. Do one like this for the director of blade runner (he is now the new director of the dune movie) I think that video would be awesome too.

I just gotta say. I LOVE Zack Snyder!

For year, I have said Zack Snyder is the Stanley Kubrick of comic book films. I was wrong. He is the Stanley Kubrick of this generation. #restorethesnyderverse

@kartikadewi3270

Жыл бұрын

Finally! Someone I can agree . And even when watching dawn of the dead, I got full metal jacket vibes for most of the movie !

Wes Anderson would be perfect for a list like this imo

Honestly, I'd probably love Snyder's work if he just paced them better. Visually they are all amazing and genuinely breathtaking, especially Man of Steel and Watchmen. My only problem is that some scenes stretch on for too long, while some deserve more time. If he just edits them a bit better, he'd be in my top 5

I love Snyder 🥺👉👈

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

Imo, 5 movies of him are in my top 10 movies ever made

Mad respect being tossed your way. Snyder is the most inspiring filmmaker of mine. Loved the little Watchmen rant at the end: “you can’t make fun of one medium in a different medium, that doesn’t work, that’s why Zack Snyder didn’t do that in watchmen that’s why he made fun of comic book movies in the comic movie adaptation of Watchmen”. I’d love to hear your thoughts on Robert Eggers. I’m really psyched for his upcoming film The Northman, and I adore his previous two features: The VVitch and The Lighthouse. What do you think?

A vision like Snyder's, with real ambition, that swings for the fences without fear, is more compelling than a thousand summer blockbusters meticulously designed by a committee to succeed at marketable mediocrity

is the theatrical cut of Sucker Punch okay to watch?

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

yes it is fine.

6:28 it didn't pop anywhere 😔

You get Watchmen as a movie better than anybody I've seen on the Internet. I always scratch my head seeing criticisms of the film saying "it over stylizes superheroes and shows off their coolness like it's Batman!!" Yeah that's kind of the goddamn point: he's relating his movies to other movies.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, Watchmen is in my top 10 movies ever made

I love the aspect ratio lmao

long live the Snyder Cut baby

Everything 👏you 👏said 👏about 👏Josstice👏 League 👏was 👏on👏 point!👏👏

@banelemkhabela3229

3 жыл бұрын

Josstice league sucks

I know you don't do reactions but can you please give your thoughts on the snydercut trailer...

I wanna see you do a ranking of john Hughes films. He was a filmmaker who did have a visual style of his own although he wasn't an auteur type. Plus his films still hold up to this day and he did make a pretty big impact on the film making industry

To me Watchmen is his best work, when I was in junior high I don't like it but after I grow up I can appreciate more of his vision in Watchmen, especially when he visualized the birth of dr manhattan

There was interferance with the theater cut of BVS.

I’m not a massive fan of Snyder but I love watchmen but that’s the only one I rlly like properly.

First! Love from Thailand brother!

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Notification Squad Present!

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

love to see it

King 👑

That aspect ratio... 🔥

I whole heartedly agree with your top 3 picks! Zack Snyder will be remembered as one of the greats. Can't wait for Justice League!

i love your videos

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Edgar Wright, I'm a huge fan and most video essayists are so I would love to here your take. Personally I love Hot Fuzz!

You should do the conan brothers

What I love about BvS and a lot of Snyder's work is its surrealism. MoS and Nolan's DK trilogy were going for "realism" and it works, but BvS almost had to go dramatic. It's operatic.

I COMPLETELY agree with your point about the "iphone" movies. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to argue that Style IS Substance even in 300, where the last scene is the only "real" scene in the film and you realize all the flashy action has been a propaganda film to hype up the Spartan army. I find it similar to something like Verhoeven's STARSHIP TROOPERS, but 300 winks even less at the audience.

@lospolloshermanos6800

2 жыл бұрын

Except Starship troopers is a smart parody of the novel itself while 300 is completely devoid of meaning

@kartikadewi3270

Жыл бұрын

@@lospolloshermanos6800 the devoid of meaning is supposed to be depressing that the war is nothing but pointless.

@lospolloshermanos6800

Жыл бұрын

@@kartikadewi3270 no, it being devoid of meaning means Zack Snyder just wanted to shoot some cool slow motion action scenes for the sake of it. I like the film but let's not pretend that there's anything deep going on with it

Do you think Snyder will get to direct the next justice league movies and complete his story?

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, as of right now? No. BUTTTTT, hollywood is constantly changing, man. If people absolutely lose their frickin’ minds of the snyder cut, I can’t see wb letting him go do some other stuff. It all depends on how people respond to it.

Hey, my girlfriend actually despises Owls of Gahuul because it does such a bad job of following incredible source material. Could have actually been a great thing or franchise.

I think Snow Steam Iron is a masterpiece :D 300 is my number 1, Watchmen is my number 2

Syder is my idol

Zack Snyder is the best film visionary for Superman.

I’m gonna be honest here. My personal favorite movies of his are: Man Of Steel, Watchmen, and Legends Of The Guardians: The Owls Of Ga’Hoole

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, MOS and Watchmen Are in my top 10 movies ever made

Amen

I love your ranking. The only Zack Synder films I didn't see were Dawn of the Dead and Sucker Punch, and I saw some parts of Watchman on TV. I think most of his films are really good and extremely underrated. Also, can you rank the Tim Burton and M. Night Shyamalan movies?

It could be interesting to know how you rank Denis Villeneuve films. Other favorite directors of mine are Antoine Foqua and Rian Johnson.

Second comment: I want to say More about zack I think he didn’t deserve the hate and definitely some evil jerks says reason why his daughters hanged her sect cuz his films are bad 😡😤 how really unhuman you are said that too broken director?! I hope those people got karma and I love his 300, Watctmen, man of steel and BVS he respect the source material but well he made Batman a killed that only I disagree about zack but i think he really practice and improve his writing plot to the high level many scenes are didn’t work that just bad and some scenes that are chiema masterpiece I really love his style directing like lighting, camera angles etc it’s look good I hope DC fans and Warner let him countine the DECU series after Snyder cut

Dawn of the dead: Love it just as much as the original. 300: Over the top as hell, but a SHIT ton of FUN. Watchmen: MY FAVORITE COMIC BOOK MOVIE AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE MOVIES PERIOD. Legend of the Guardians: Love it. Could've expanded the world and characters with a sequel. Sucker Punch: #ReleaseTheRealSuckerPunchCut LOL Man of steel: Another beautiful addition to Superman's long and wonderful mythos. Batman v Superman: THOUGHT PROVOKING & AMBITIOUS AS HELL, AND I ADORE EVERY SECOND OF IT. A love letter to a comic book geek like me.

keep working on it man

My ranking: 1. Watchmen 2. Man of Steel 3. Dawn of the Dead 4. BvS: DoJ 5. Sucker Punch 6. 300 7. LotG: OoG

Ok finished the video, awesome ranking. I still gotta watch the Owl movie but this is my personal list: 1. Batman V Superman: UE 2. Watchmen 3. Dawn of the Dead 4. Man of Steel 5. Sucker Punch 6. 300 7. Snow Steam Iron 8. Justice League (fuck Johns, Whedon, and Berg☺️) Snydercut is gonna be fucking rad I can’t wait. So glad to see this director appreciated more recently by the general fanbase.

Would love to see a Denis Villeneuve ranked video.

I think you should watch "Kingdom" on Netflix. A Korean horror drama involving zombies. I think you'll love it.

I just saw a ranking list of his movies that had Man of Steel and Watchmen at the bottom after Owls 🤦 needless to say I didn't bother finishing it

I am waiting for ZSJL to surpass Watchmen as my favourite superhero film

Zack Snyder is my favourite director now

Not sure if this is done intentionally but I like how when you talk you use the same aspect ratio as the snyder cut trailer

@thegenerator9178

3 жыл бұрын

Or at least a similair aspect ratio

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

It’s all inspired by the man

@thegenerator9178

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobyFN2169dtf That's the way brother

Would be super interested to see a Dennis Villa-noo-ay-vay ranking, if you're into him!

Fuck. I love Zack Snyder. It’s odd that I feel I always have to explain myself for liking such an accomplished director, he’s garnered so much hate/unnecessary bias against him. Really great video Roby.

I think his style is inspired by Stanley Kubrick whos my #1 filmmaker

Honestly I swear I’m one of the few people who actually doesn’t hate the theatrical JL film.

Bold move to be positive on Batman v Superman. Not many people (mostly the DC fans) like it. As for me, I didn't like it at first, but then I started appreciating the style and acting. While I think some of the writing was not great, I thought it was cool with action.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

Which writing you don't like ? Chris Terrio or David Goyer ? or both of them ?

@lizafootfor5471

3 жыл бұрын

@@kartikadewi3270 Chris terrio because rumor went that he wrote that "Martha same name" scene. Though I'm not sure. It's possible.

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@lizafootfor5471 That is true. Not a rumor. Chris Terrio did that Martha scene.

@lizafootfor5471

3 жыл бұрын

@@kartikadewi3270 good to know. So my answer is Chris's writing on the film. Don't know which one of them wrote killing off Jimmy Olsen scene. Still makes me upset to this day ☹

@kartikadewi3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@lizafootfor5471 That Jimmy olsen killed it was Chris Nolan's idea which is his controversial idea.

Zack Snyder : Because I'm always cool😎