The infinite hbox tsukuyomi pop off goes hard I can’t lie

I ain't tired of the dude. I doubt I ever will be. He is just real passionate about winning. As for the tweet thing... i dunno man. People talk shit all the time. To him in particular. Tellin' someone to suck it is just bread and butter. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I'll never get tired of Hbox and his shenanigans

5:25 "SMD" is gender inclusive. It gets the point across.

@_YaBoiiTj_

2 ай бұрын

Society has forgotten this lol.

@GSEleven

2 ай бұрын

​@@_YaBoiiTj_ Not society, Twitter. I have been told to do worse things and have said the worst things I can think of back, even if they aren't gender inclusive. 😹😹

@DarkAuraLord

2 ай бұрын

@@_YaBoiiTj_ no, they haven't, twitter morons are just desperate to find any way they can to be the victim. That's all this shit was. That's why there was so much emphasis put on the gender of the individual being insulted instead of the fact that HBox's behaviour isn't appropriate regardless of those factors.

Hbox is not the whats wrong withinthe scene its just people are too soft now

@happymonkeyfish

2 ай бұрын

Yep people (especially on twitter) get riled up for anything. Also coming at Hbox right after the chair popoff was like baiting yourself

@Mintininja_SSB

2 ай бұрын

@@happymonkeyfishleast favorite part of twitter is that people outside the community believe that twitter represents the community in person

@happymonkeyfish

2 ай бұрын

@Mintininja_SSB agreed, the smash community are dope in person but you wouldn't know that from Twitter

@vanillafella4893

2 ай бұрын

the part where hbox said "suck my dick" and someone responds with a paragraph about "this is wrong for the scene guys😰😰 we need to foster inclusivity and not use vulgar language and" i died laughing

@cheesycheese7100

2 ай бұрын

You don't think pop offs are pretty lame at this point? Feels super forced for me

I can’t believe how much time people spend on twitter. Most of those users all hate each other over anything to feel a little better about themselves.

Only thing he did wrong was apologise

People on twitter trynna police people having a good time. Hbox's popoffs are hype, they make it so fun to watch. Same reason why the world loves crazy celebrations for soccer. Would rather have a slightly unhinged dude than some boring guy that shows no emotions.

To be clear, he didn't apologize for throwing the chair, he apologized for the tweet he made. Which I think was right.

@yasserjimenez8070

2 ай бұрын

Shouldn’t have apologized. It’s absurd that people can talk shit and you can’t clap back

@sptflcrw8583

2 ай бұрын

Ridiculous you cant clap back anymore

@ApolloSol

2 ай бұрын

I can't believe this is a sentence uttered by a human being....

@dennisd.4726

2 ай бұрын

Let's be real. If a guy bitched and moaned about hbox telling him to smd, no one would care. But because it's a 'trans' person, Twitter went for box's head 😂 super cowardly for apologizing for that shit

@Comeonnowskip

2 ай бұрын

@@ApolloSol Read Sarcasm

Twitter people pretending like theyre litterally in tears shaking over someone being cringe lmao. They cry foul when someone with a large following pushes back as if by posting on twitter in the first place they werent hoping to farm clout.

I don't even think that gremlin hole on Twitter is the community anymore. It's only lately occurred to me that there is a gigantic disconnect between the people online and the people who actually pay the venuee fees and are physically there. The social media crowd feels so empowered by anonymity and the standard "cringe bad" mentality that they can turn a goofy popoff that was completely endorsed by a energetic crowd for a great set into Hbox needing to be banned or even executed(?!). I don't want to play armchair psychologist but all of fish's tweets regarding the situation were isolated hate talk that obviously would catch attention and made her come off as feeling weirdly empowered by it especially after Juan apologized to her. Never felt more disconnected to whatever was going on that platform after i just watched the whole venue firing up Hbox. In general there is complainer culture at irl tourneys but the recent vibe at tournaments i've been to has been pretty chill with people just keeping to themselves and their friends. Social media and especially Twitter just feed on people discussing a topic, systematically encouraging hateful discourse because that always makes the most numbers. I personally always saw the reliance on Twitter as the community's biggest issue, especially in situations where random individuals shouldn't have any influence on certain topics like the 2020 allegation summer that got a bunch of people just sorted out without a fair shot no matter ig they were guilty or not or the Panda situation as you've definetely experienced yourself. I just don't think that a whole community relying on a toxic loop is or ever was healthy for anyone besides individuals who love causing problems and insulting others over little to nothing.

Terminally online behaviors on twitter i stg

Personally, I don't think what he did was wrong. My issue is if someone lesser know would've done the same thing, the entire story would be different. Only reason why he didn't get into serious trouble was because that kind of pop off is on brand.

@djjimmaster8261

2 ай бұрын

True! If anyone else had done it, they would have been obliterated

i agree with you on the fact that people don't know how to read WR. Normally a less played character has more win rate, because the only people that play the character are mains. When a character is extremely popular, people bring down its win rate. So to know fully well how good or bad a character is, a combination of Pick Rate and Win Rate is extremely necessary. There are so many cases, and Win rates alone are not going to define precise data, but are interesting to look at.

Nah Hbox always gets a pass lmao

yall trippin with that chair 😂😂 come on now haha

I feel like people have gotten over the days of 2016/2017 Hbox. The fact that he's still playing is just endearing. Dude did what, Chem Engi at UF? Then also tried to self teach programming iirc? He probably could've made a hefty sum if he chose to follow those... Instead, he chose something he loves. This is coming from a Floridian doc kid too that hated him when I saw it. I feel like it did Hbox a disservice. The way they framed him in relation to Mang0 is odd when I think back about it.

On your League example, there are also champs that are so mechanically attuned to professional play that they have to destroy them numerically, such that they have like 44% winrate, but are still winning pro games like crazy. These winrates mean NOTHING for competitive viability.

Hbox carries the community does melee and ultimate and gets outside viewers on smash

@johnkramer2144

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, but all the opinions are “Wow, Smashers are not only smelly and child groomers, but they also throw chairs around like animals.”

Idk what the opening song is but it's a banger

so many cornballs on twitter

Hbox's popoff was lit - its part of who he is, plus he was getting gassed up by the crowd. We gotta stop pretending twitter dictates whats "going on" in the scene. Most healthy adults delete Twitter eventually. "Were definitely overreaching trying to make this an issue" is like 80% of issues i hear about in smash now lol, and its always citing twitter

@nathanl8769

2 ай бұрын

Talking about healthy adults and saying his pop off was "lit" has got to be one of the dumbest contradictions ever 😂

Unsafe for throwing the chair on HBox’s side but also damage. What the hell would they have done if he slammed it and it put a hole in the stage?

Even TK is tired of Steve’s The man who can make anything hype with his commentary is saying it’s boring

Hbox paid offered to pay for the chair so all is good.

People dunk and shit on Hbox daily for over a decade, but then show up and reap the benefits of the work he put in with sponsors like Liquid and the coinbox events. Fuck if people are tired of him, if we gonna keep it a bean.

@nathanl8769

2 ай бұрын

Keep it a bean? Lol. What kinda teenager shit is that

Glad we have someone with reasonable takes. These are normal gaming comments. And def wasn’t a targeted comment

People overeactin on twitter because of popping off . It's so wierd and even wierd it's smash community calling people loser for getting excited over playing a videogame. When all they do is play video games and watch anime

"Punching down" sister she opened with the comment. Don't dish what you won't eat.

I don’t think people were claiming that he said it knowing the tweet was from a woman. I think it’s just a bit more hurtful as a result, especially with how male-dominated the scene is

I say SMD to women, men, and I don't even have one. it is definitely not a gender issue and people who were making out to be as such is sad.

Supernova naming situation could easily be a coincidence Sonic 2 and Sonic CD were both being developed as a sequel to Sonic 1in different countries Yet both were being made with the idea of time travel. The idea was scrapped in 2 though As far as I know it was just a big coincidence

I hope hbox gains fans from this. Smash has gotten so fkn soft.

Hell no we love hbones!

genuinely 2 peoplle who dk about melee mentioned the chair throw to me who wouldnt have seen melee otherwise

@nathanl8769

2 ай бұрын

Wow! How awesome! And they'll never watch or talk about it again so... Doesn't matter

Hbox is awesome he is a pillar of smash bros

Yeah I get they wanted to change the name but you're telling me not a single member of staff at SuperSmashCon didn't Google "Super Nova fighting game event" into Google?

10:00 💀

@snomanking2chennal869

2 ай бұрын

I think ruckersville where Chris Chan use to live

When the pick rates are low the people using the character regularly are holding up that win rate. people also don’t know how to fight against the character because they don’t get much exposure. Combine those aspects with almost zero labing from players on how to combat gimics and you got a very skewed win rate that tells you nothing.

heyo whatever but u know how creative smash tournament names can be? on god "goml" it refers to smash melee's randall, and many more names, like that. super nova ?

The fact that most of these comments are defending Juan is why I left the smash scene lol, it’s become overrun with cringcels

Hbox keeping things interesting and entertaining because he's truly passionate about his play, something that is sorely lacking in the scene these days. He still makes mistakes though, stay off your phone after tense sets dude.

Someone make a jigglypuff skin that is a chair

I’m not. I can’t stand this community anymore. Hbox is funny so I like him.

People really take Hbox for granted. The smash community wouldn’t be nearly as interesting if he wasn’t a part of it

@nathanl8769

2 ай бұрын

You must have a lame ass life if you really think that

tkspitting

bro he said SMD can we stop worrying about what twitter users say who dont show up to tourneys? hbox one of the only personalities in the scene and said something lukewarm, 3 words

Hbox is a pretty accurate representation of most smash players for better or worse….

If yall mad that Hbox made a tweet (haven't seen the tweet, im going off of context) ya need to step back and remember the treatment Hbox has got for the last X amount of years

@sageryfrekenstein

2 ай бұрын

he's gotten shit for everything he does for over a decade. People cheering for Hbox has happened for about 1 year now lol I can't believe a big following means you have this responsibility to post a paragraph apology when the person who posts shit about you just gets to move on without expectations to be better. Yeah he's an adult, yeah he could improve, but how do you get to @ someone then call them a bully. lmao

It seems that you really do not enjoy smash or the players. A lot of back handed comments

@Jardonius

2 ай бұрын

Giving us plenty of reasons not to like a lot of the Smash community anymore

Irresponsible, sure. Going as far as saying he endangered the crowd is definitely a stretch though. If a guy as big as hbox was trying to break the chair, it would've broke, and the stage was definitely big enough that it wouldn't have hurt anyone. If the venue or organisors were upset, sure. But that's between them, not the audience. Should definitely be reprimanded for it though, imo. He shouldn't be shit talking on twitter, but it's pretty clear to me at least that it had nothing to do with the fact that the target was a woman. He's content creator and he markets himself for a general audience. It's not like he doesn't have a track record, he probably would've never posted it in the first place if he realized it could've been taken in a sexual way. The idea that this is good attention for the community is dumb, though. The rest of the VGC already looks down on smash enough, it just looks childish to go so far.

Hgod good

Hungrybox is ZeRo 2.0 (in terms of being the current face of Smash) Imagine how awkward this era would be if he also got cancelled lmao

Smash community being lame as shit as always. Hbox is the goat they shit talking him and again down playing his achievements again.

"Childish, grow up, cringe, etc." It's the Smash community bro, chill tf out. Jesus Christ, Oscar the grouch, & all kinds of Furries were in the front row seats, ffs.

W video

The Smash community? Of course not, they love this kind of behaviour. Everyone outside the Smash community already thinks the community is cancerous. Hbox being an absolute buffoon only makes the Smash community look worse for outsiders, but the community itself celebrates and rejoices it.

@kachowabunga17

2 ай бұрын

"over the top celebration and throwing a chair" part of the smash community and "regular people that enjoy smash" and "toxic Twitter users and/or pedos" are three VERY different groups of people that are sometimes all referred to as "the smash community" when they are basically separate people for the most part

Lol, the absolute turn around the community has had on hbox. Truth is, he's always been a dick, hes just good at playing victim.

if u dont like hbox u just dont liker having fun

@nathanl8769

2 ай бұрын

If you believe that you're a lame ass kid 😂😂

First off he slightly bounced the chair also gender didn’t matter they def should go do what he suggested let him have fun people that have a problem are the people that no one likes

This is literally nothing to complain about lol people are so boring. It’s not like he threw the chair at someone

@alexandergomez3574

Ай бұрын

He's damaging other people property. In what universe is that not a problem. Not only that, if someone in charge of the venue saw that they could easily kick everyone out or never allow goml to be held there again. On top of that he used his platform to tell a woman critiquing him to suck his dick. Piece of shit behavior tbh.

Algorithm

I wouldn't have watched any GOML if someone didn't tell me about the HBox popoff. As dumb as it sounds, he's kind of right. Also smash twitter is a joke. How do some of y'all even survive in real life?

I've been watching melee for 10 years. I think hbox is cringe, his pop offs are cringe, I think his youtube vids are cringe, and he plays the most boring character. That said he's been a top 5 level player in my favorite game for like 2 decades. He's a goat and I'll always have massive respect for him.

I think hbox can be kinda corny, but you can still cook with corn (make content). I think this time he might have burnt the recipe a little

Hbox corny as hell for that popoff. We need a Kendrick Lamar in the Melee community to drop a diss track on him. Consider this a formal request.

@j0rd0

2 ай бұрын

if someone throws another crab at him I won't be surprised at this point 🦀

@kachowabunga17

2 ай бұрын

a formal request has been issued by the world-renowned j0rd0 to drop a diss track on some dude because he's "corny"

Hbox is a bit cringe now days, a bit too much

Cant believe Hbox still shows up knowing how hated he is... I could never. Maybe its the money 🤷🏻‍♂️

@kero292

2 ай бұрын

He wouldn't be the biggest smash content creator if he was hated mate

the problem with Hbox is that he's a dweeb. to outsiders he's The Guy Who Just Loves Yelling And Throwing Chairs(TM). at this point it his literal gimmick, as evidenced by him having to redo the chair throw at GOML, presumably to get a better camera shot. in game he is The Best Most Annoying Character (to many). he'll get hate for his play, for his character, for his being. these two qualities make for a combo that is very easy for people to dislike in one form or another, and for that guy to bite back with a (really widely used to the point it's pretty generic/gender neutral) insult just ends up looking immensely Not Cool (either morally or in the sense of being cringe). and while he seems fine with making these things his brand (again, he is notoriously content pilled), it doesn't make him look any less like a dweeb in the eyes of many

@alexknight81

2 ай бұрын

I think looking like a "dweeb" is miles better than having the usual labels that most people view the smash community as

@Metazoa54321

2 ай бұрын

@alexknight81 yyyyessss, but it is still "dweeb", so for the average person andd many non-average, it's still not a flattering look. (and it's not as if it lets him escape the usual associations with The Smash Community, so *shrug*)

@alexknight81

2 ай бұрын

@@Metazoa54321 I mean, by that point, isnt the "dweeb" description just any fighting game player? Like it's not a common thing at least to look at a fgc player and think "oh he is so cool", but imo thats just pretty much anyone who plays videogames, we are all nerds

@Metazoa54321

2 ай бұрын

@alexknight81 it's the adding up of things, i feel like. yes, we are all nerds. we are not all 1) Smash Players (derogatory) 2) Players who really act out in their pop offs 3) Really Content Pilled / Among the highest grossing and visible in the scene, with all the baggage that brings 4) Historically (and sometimes currently) hated for their character / play-style the layman seeing that combination, any one singular part of which could arbitrarily make someone dislike a person, could easily be primed to view their movements negatively/cynically, esp. when part of that leads to a marginalized and much "smaller" internet presence getting harassed. yeah, ultimately none of these are enough to make him any more than "cringey and annoying / a dweeb" at worst, which isn't, y'know, evil or anything. it's just cringey and annoying at times

bro was that it??????

come on mane hbox is hype.

I know Hbox didn't hurt anybody, but he very easily could. I don't think we should view it as "well nothing bad happened so it's okay", because then we would only take safety measures seriously once the lack of enforcing them actually results in injury. Hbox did literally hurt himself doing that too. I think this is foolish behaviour that should not be excused under any circumstances and the fact that he wasn't reprimanded by the organizations or other relevant party is really disappointing to me.

@sptflcrw8583

2 ай бұрын

For throwing a chair? Jfc you're way too soft

@Raykushi

2 ай бұрын

@@sptflcrw8583 No I'm not bro. It is very easily to get careless with all that adrenaline and accidentally injure people - like the 5 camera man recording him from 5 ft away. We wouldn't tolerate this behaviour from randoms, we shouldn't tolerate it from top players.

@sptflcrw8583

2 ай бұрын

@@Raykushi top players can pop off if they want to. The camera is like 10 feet away from him, lmfao. Stop crying.

@dennisd.4726

2 ай бұрын

​@@Raykushiyeahhh you're def soft. He threw it right in front of himself. Let people feel emotions. Not everyone bottles everything up and then cries in their room.

@Raykushi

2 ай бұрын

@@dennisd.4726 Obviously he slammed it in front of him, I'm not saying that Hbox is ever gonna intend to chuck a chair at the audience, my point is accidents happen and you can reduce the risk of injury to zero if we don't allow people to act like apes