Brilliant auction format sir ❤really appreciate your information 🚘🚙🏎️🚘🚙🚗

@oscarsgarage447

4 күн бұрын

Thanks and welcome

Buy a car to have fun, why worry about prices……..swings and roundabouts.

As a previous owner of one, hearing an MG Maestro described as “a nice little car” made me smile. I was actually sad when an attempt to steal mine was thwarted. Worst car I ever had, felt like it had been made up from leftovers and bolted together in a shed 😁

Older cars from the 50’s and 60’s will drop now as sadly the people that can relate to them are passing away, cars from the 70’s 80’s and even 90’s are the big ticket items now, it all rolls on relative to the age of the buyers.

@waregraham8335

7 күн бұрын

Yes, Model T Fords were ( relatively ) their most valuable in the 70s, now 1950s cars are losing their audience

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

I think you are right. The only pre war car with value seems to be the Austin 7. I look forward to Ford XRs only being worth a couple of thousand!

@terrapyn99

7 күн бұрын

​1950s cars are better looking than 1980s cars.

@MX-Mug

7 күн бұрын

@@terrapyn99 Agreed, but it’s what we can relate to, a 1950’s Ferrari is a thing of beauty but for me as a 54 year old bloke I go gaga for a 80’s 308 or Testarossa 😄

@catherinewright8933

7 күн бұрын

@@MX-Mug Iconic brand names like Ferrari, Bentley , Jaguar etc etc will always have a huge following no matter what their age. As a person nearing 60, classic racers / sports cars from the 50's and 60's appeal the most, rather than cars from the 70's that I owned during the 80's.

Not surprised so many cars were unsold. Estimates were unrealistic and reserve prices were too high

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Estimates are generally based on the reserve set, which is down to the sellers ambitions. As I said at the end I think sellers need to recalibrate their expectations. Its a buyers market at the moment.

@ianmontgomery7534

7 күн бұрын

and the auctioneer was not enthusiastic enough.

@russthebiker

7 күн бұрын

Caused by greedy people watching TV shows and thinking their cars are worth the same money Also far too many cars have been messed about with and not original or have had poor repairs carried out

Very interesting video Trev. IMHO it would be better if the auctioneer remembered that it doesn't matter where you start, it's where you finish that matters.

The classic car market for the lower prices has been cooling for a year or so. There is always something not in the favour of the vehicle that stops it from making good money, Example BMW is Automatic, if it was manual I believe it would fetch better money. The average person has other stuff to worry about in the current economy. Auctions might be stretching the prices just to get the stock. Volvo C70 basically a ford with a different body, and if the roof goes wrong massive money.

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

You could be right on the C70, there was a 207CC there as well that didn't sell (not really at the right auction IMHO). Maybe classic buyers are being cautious and waiting for the right car to come along?

@frictionstreaker

7 күн бұрын

@@oscarsgarage447 Ford bought Volvo in 1999 and owned them for ten years, along with Jaguar, Land Rover, and Aston Martin. C70, S40, and V50 all used the same platform as the for Focus, and Volvo’s iconic 5 cylinder engine ended up in the ST.

I'd say that these lots were at the wrong auction. Most attracted an average of one bidder -- that has to be down to the auction house.

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

Or could be a lack of buyers? They do have two internet bidding options so easy to access on line. I don't know the correct answer though!

@johnbriggs3916

8 күн бұрын

@oscarsgarage447 Lack of buyers is down the auction house. They only have three jobs: listing the lots, estimating and attracting bidders. They fell down on the last one.

@martinbernard1052

3 күн бұрын

Agree. Also the Auctioneer made virtually no attempt to 'sell' the cars and just read the catalogue scripts. If I was a seller I would be furious with lack of errort and enthusiasm.

@johnbriggs3916

3 күн бұрын

@@martinbernard1052 No, it was already lost at that point. The (right) bidders just hadn't turned up to the auction. The only bidders were dealers hoping to get things really cheap.

Thanks for posting. Very interesting to see how classic car prices are going. I’m sure there are a lot of buyers of hot Fords that are going to have their fingers burnt in the next 5 years.

@oscarsgarage447

4 күн бұрын

Very true!

£2.5k for the respray of the Lotus Eclat. That paint job is possibly the worst I have ever seen if you look on the close up photos on the website

@simonw8626

8 күн бұрын

Why would you not Polish the wolf race wheels too

@Matnrach2-mf9qr

8 күн бұрын

@@simonw8626 why would you not put the correct wheels on either. Those Wolfrace wheels look terrible

@simonw8626

8 күн бұрын

@@Matnrach2-mf9qr I have a feeling the very early ones also first esprit came with wolf race from factory I could be wrong

@Matnrach2-mf9qr

8 күн бұрын

@@simonw8626 Actually this is the base model 520 could well be. Never seen another early Eclat with these wheels though

@simonw8626

8 күн бұрын

@@Matnrach2-mf9qr I looked to buy a 1983 model in late 80s was a beautiful car but got scared of mantance so settled on a starion turbo very similar looking car one I should have kept lol

Great video thanks for sharing 👍.

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Prices are all over the place but quality cars still show through, difficult to buy a 'good' car at a cheap price these days. I've been to several auctions and dealers and frankly buying from a good dealer appears preferable than chancing it at the auction on a car that ok but not great.

Makes me laugh when you see all the extremely average condition sapphire cosworths for sale on eBay etc for 30k plus, I’ve seen some very original low miles cars sell recently through auctions for below 20k there are some lovely cars out there for reasonable money at the moment, that MK2 Jag was beautiful and a bargain

Interesting video Trevor. Looks like the bottom has definitely fallen out of the market. Only £3800 bid for the E30, ridiculously cheap. People are (possibly foolishly) ploughing tens of thousands into these cars as we speak.

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

Thanks Bob. I think we will see the 'project' cars really drop in value if good examples are available for sensible money. I have just bought a classic for a quarter of what someone spent on its restoration...

@bobfrankish8883

8 күн бұрын

@@oscarsgarage447 yep, that seems to be how it is Trevor. I watched an immaculate R reg. Aston Martin DB7 go through Mathewsons, it fetched £12,750. It came with receipts for work done by Aston Martin for over £51000, which obviously doesn't account for what the poor guy paid for the car originally, he'd owned it for about 10 years I think. He must have been sick as a parrot!

@davidthomas8317

7 күн бұрын

@@bobfrankish8883 IF THAT E 30 WAS A MANUAL IT WAOULD OF SOLD

@russthebiker

7 күн бұрын

Been repainted in a different colour ! Original colour schemes always hold car values

@gartgreenside3657

7 сағат бұрын

@@davidthomas8317 I'm looking for a more modern BMW than an E30, but still an old one... most are autos and manual is a must for me.

Thanks really enjoyed that video. I'm very keen to purchase a weekend car.

@oscarsgarage447

5 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

eclat, with broken headlights, has cosmic wheels not wolfrace

There are so many auction houses and online auction selling platforms. The are only so many sellers of good cars and only so many potential buyers. Matching the two to get a sale and a good price is becoming a bit of a challenge. A lot of auction houses are accepting pretty average stuff to sell and are effectively watering down the quality of cars going through. That wont attract bidders in a big enough numbers to get a bidding war, hence so many cars going for the starting bid and minimum reserve ! I'm not sure what the answer is other than to research the auction houses to see what they are selling and previously sold lots by them. That should you an idea if they are suitable to sell your car.

Really enjoyed this more of same please

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

Thanks! Will see what we can find.

the bidding was certainly a bit grim at this auction. Could that 2009 Volvo really have featured in a 1997 movie? You said the link was tenuous but I had to go back and re-read the sign in the window that stated a cherry red C70 featured in the Saint movie. Only 1000 degrees of separation😃

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

Unfortunately production deadlines stopped me investigating further... I will have a look. You may well be right with that degree of separation!

@chrishart8548

4 күн бұрын

Crazy thing is the 1997 C70 doesn't look anything like this one. Also the 1997 was a actual Volvo and the later 2009 one was made by ford and was more or less a ford mondeo with different panels and a volvo badge

The Volvo was a steal! I have a rare Ford Mondeo 4wd sedan. It's for sale at a bargain price. LHD in Sweden.

Wish I'd known my old Hawke was up for sale. £5k is a bargain, probably not helped by the failed mot and rubbish weather so far up until June when this auction was. There were plenty of very average cars going through, the more desirable, rare, exotic will always find good prices. Some of todays "collectable" cars aren't really that great and never were, a reality check might be happening for sure.

@johnbriggs3916

8 күн бұрын

It only sold because the one bidder was prepared to bid the reserve.

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

I did think someone bid early on that one!

@johnbriggs3916

8 күн бұрын

@oscarsgarage447 That was to scare off other bidders. We'll never know if it worked, because there were no further bidders 😉

@catherinewright8933

8 күн бұрын

@@johnbriggs3916 Setting the reserve at the right amount is very important. The single bidder might have been happy to pay more, he did jump in early.

@johnbriggs3916

8 күн бұрын

@catherinewright8933 The lowball bidding would have been from dealers -- professional time wasters. Most of the bidding was against the reserves -- wasting everyone's time. If you find yourself bidding against one of them they may run you up for the fun of it. Bidding high early will deter them. It's an aggressive move, suggesting you are prepared to go higher, without guaranteeing it. If they bid against you, they may find themselves stuck with it.

Hey up oscar interesting video thanks mate

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

How did he Ever become an auctioneer 😖... His dad must have handed it to him on a plate ...He couldn't sell burgers to a fat bird outside a health spa !!!

@russthebiker

7 күн бұрын

Looks like he has put a few away 😂

Lotus, same issue, ULEZ!

Wasn't the elan a GM project? Given the Isuzu engines they had

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

You are correct (the auction is beyond all data range so have to wing it on my memory banks), however once Proton bought Lotus they sold the M100 design to Kia who then marketed it as the Vigato, mainly sold in Japan. So Proton was in the story, just not at the point I thought...

Very tidy mkII jag. The Eclat was nice as well and for the informed buyer shouldnt cost too much to run.

@oscarsgarage447

2 күн бұрын

Agree on the Jag. Up close the Eclat had a few issues, and apparently stuck up headlights can mean a chassis issue - I was told the chassis is used to create the vacuum to hold them down, and so this suggests the chassis isn't air tight...

There will be a big rebound in the classic car market, especially in the sports car market when all new cars have to be fitted with speed limiters. I think it becomes law in the UK next week !! Just imagine taking delivery of your new Ferrari and driving away from the showroom only to have the steering wheel judder, the instrument cluster light up, flashing warnings at you and the throttle pedal try and lift up under your right foot, because you went 3mph over the limit ! Its the future apparently, I'll be living in the past with older classics thankyou !

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

Me too. You could well be right on future values. 20 years ago two stroke motorcycles were worthless, now highly sort after as no longer available.

Reaction from the continent: too many bread and butter cars. In my opinion the market is only letting steam off. No need to worry.

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

You could well be right. Market was strong during covid and now people are selling those cars more sensible market rates.

will older car be able to be repaired soon under these proposed new laws ?

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Yes, I believe I saw an article in one of the classic weeklies that said it didn't affect working on older cars.

@alancrisp1582

7 күн бұрын

🤥 Only if you trust what government politicians say they are going to do. And I myself do not trust any of them ! ⚠..

Ghia X, Dripping with rust tow bar panels are different colours and velour interior?

@andrewwalls4082

7 күн бұрын

I wouldnt say dripping with rust but I saw some specs from a computer screen in poor lighting !

@sportshatch

4 күн бұрын

@@andrewwalls4082. It’s an old Ford. Not a classic car.

Yes classic car prices are collapsing

when the Elan s2 was made Lotus were still under GM ownership the S2 was born because of the amount of unused parts leftover at the factory. The Kia Elan was the Later version

@oscarsgarage447

3 күн бұрын

Yup, someone pulled me up on that earlier. I was close, but no cigar...

Jaguar mk11s are ten a penny these days, nice origional cars seem to sell well,also colour is important and engine size and manual gearbox The auctioneer looks pig sick at times A secret to selling is personality, he just reads it out like the news ! No charisma The granada is spoilt by all the tat all over it, crappy spotlights etc,ruins the clean lines, and if you look closely black paint on the rear of the sill, provably hiding recently repair or rust A friend has one the same without all the chav junk all over it,looks much nicer

The Granada described as a "lovely big old granny" 😅😅😅😅😅 he will get rapped on the knuckles these days for that

That auctioneer is at the wrong auction. He should be on Bargain Hunt selling knick knacks.

@RAW555R

4 күн бұрын

Not very engaging is he, I follow ACA the 2 auctioneers there are great each with their distinctive catch phrases to listen out for which ads some interest!

@tillyfoxtrotter

Күн бұрын

@@RAW555R The two on ACA are dreadful, The fat old cockney parrots the same old lines on every car whereas the bearded bloke seems only to have 'fill it up' as a strapline. If you think thats great then you need to get out more.

Classic and second hand market has topped out and prices are falling, I drive a Mercedes W124 320ce, eighteen months ago I'd have got 10 grand plus, now they are for sale at half that price and still not moving, not that I'd sell mine, I love it, Anglia Classic Car Auctions might be worth a trip to do a video on, they've always got some nice stuff going over the block

@oscarsgarage447

6 күн бұрын

Think you are right of values, and thanks for the heads up.

What was the buyers premium? Another 30%?

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Buyers premium is 12.5% plus VAT, so 15% in total.

Poor old auctioneer getting moody about everyone chatting up the back rather than bidding on his overpriced cars.😂 Anyone who bought into classics as a pension scheme must be twitching a bit currently.

@AA-69

7 күн бұрын

Hopefully... Because it's those speculating Barstewards that drove the prices through the roof !.. And all to sit in a bloody heated garage and gather dust ... Get it up them 😄

@alancrisp1582

7 күн бұрын

​@@AA-69🤔 Not true, I think you are greatly generalizing in your comment. Not all of us buyers at these classic car auction houses are like that at all !...

The 2009 Volvo starred in a 1997 film... ?

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Damn good spot sir!!! Now I have re-read the sign it just states another C70 appeared in the film. A red one... There is tenuous, then there is this!!!

@PaulMappud

7 күн бұрын

@@oscarsgarage447 : Bunch of Ham Shankers, it's not even the same gen C70, it's like trying to flog every single Capri on sale by saying it starred in The Professionals... 😁

All orginal boy races of the 80s Clean riight and correct selling well.The 17:45 up market 90s gear and the pre 70s stuff is falling of a cliff at the moment.The interest is not there.The people who looking for it want it for nought.Wish all the buyers and sellers well.

MGB with 5 spokes? Presumably the owner kept the orig wheels...

Jag is nice but Automatic?

I personally think the 80s and 90s cars will grow in market value

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Think they are already doing well, think the early noughties stuff will be the one to watch next.

@phillipevans9414

7 күн бұрын

Yep, they are already off and running, for desireable stuff (check out the money early Supra's and other Jap sports/hot hatches are bringing) for last 5 - 10 years ish, and the more regular/everyday stuff will follow to some extent. I'm going the other way, I love my '80's & '90's stuff, but over the next 5 - 10 years will be looking for a couple of '40's & '50's bargains (Citroen Traction Avant, and a '50's Americana gem (Buick Roadmaster or similar), which are sure to come, to supplement my other '80's/90's desires. Cheers!

Do you know what the white alpine made?

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Don't think it sold, est was £11 to 12k. Project one sold for £1800

@roystonvehicles9129

7 күн бұрын

@@oscarsgarage447 OK, thanks

As spectacular as the Jag Mk2 restoration appears to be , its restored not in its original colour and the receipts for the restoration are missing. True collectors only collect original cars or high level restorations in original spec , if the car was restored with its original colour im sure it would have made decent money even in this market

@phillipevans9414

7 күн бұрын

I think it made about what I would expect...IMHO it's a GBP20-25k car. Cheers!

Only uk marques why no oldie foreign ones ?

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

It depends on what sellers want to sell I guess?

@dcarbs2979

7 күн бұрын

BMW is foreign

So did the XJS convertible sell at £15k,?

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Only if a deal was done after the auction. I think it was some way short of the reserve.

The Mini It’s got a hole in the roof.

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Ah, you spotted that...

ULEZ,ULEZ, ULEZ, the Volvo a typical example!

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

To be fair, a lot of us go no where near ULEZ...

auctions are for bargains you don't buy at an auction to pay retail prices.

@phillipevans9414

7 күн бұрын

Indeed, the guide prices were akin to full retail whack, for top level cars. With a few exceptions (the '63 Jag), these were average fare, or flawed examples (auto in a BMW, non orig paint, aftermarket mods or just plain scruffy). Cheers!

I think the bottom is about to fall out of the classic car market especially for cars that require expensive professional work. So Rolls Royce BMW Mercedes will really suffer because these vehicles are too complex for most good home mechanics. Porsche and many others will also suffer.

@oscarsgarage447

3 күн бұрын

Fair point. I think the number of people prepared or able work on their own cars is contributing as well.

Gee, if the classic car market is crashing maybe some people who like old cars will be able to afford them instead of investors.

@oscarsgarage447

3 күн бұрын

Looks like its a buyers market at the moment...

I don’t get the auctioneer shushing the crown, what’s that all about?

@RAW555R

4 күн бұрын

Yeah that's really off putting isn't it never seen that before, should have raised his voice if he didn't like the hubbub

If I was one of these sellers I would be furious. Not enough effort made by auctioneer just the basic catalogue description.

How did a 2009 car appear in a 1997 film?

@oscarsgarage447

11 сағат бұрын

Good point that I answered in an earlier comment. I didn't do my due diligence on that claim...

Can't believe a 69 immaculate Mini cooper highest bid was 10 grand, this particular Auction house can't possibly advertise whats coming up in the next Auction. Mathewsons nearly all their cars go over estimated guide price , ive seen alot of minis through them do a lot more . The XJS in the video from 91ish to 2000ish until Jaguar killed off the V12 i was responsible as a metrology technician quality engineer Foundry tooling approval and all dimensional engineering reports for the jaguar V12 block & left & right hand heads & Straight Six block & head .

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

To be fair I have seen them at least advertise on Car and Classic website and also in one of the Classic weeklies.

WOW they are going cheap that mk2 Jag OMG cheap as chips

Wow, painful to watch. Buyer’s market

@oscarsgarage447

8 күн бұрын

I think you are right, at the moment it definitely is. I think sellers may need to recalibrate their expectations.

@besenzon1

8 күн бұрын

@@oscarsgarage447 less people with spare cash.

@jjefferyworboys8138

8 күн бұрын

It's an opportunity to trade up and buy the car you thought you could never afford.

@scottyg7284

8 күн бұрын

That auctioneer is definitely painful to watch.

@johnbriggs3916

8 күн бұрын

Most didn't sell because the buyers didn't turn up.

The bmw 325 was cheap unless it was a shed?

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

There was a bit of rust on top of the passenger door otherwise it looked good.

@dominicedwards9117

7 күн бұрын

@@oscarsgarage447 very cheap then

People are struggling

@oscarsgarage447

6 күн бұрын

I think that is part of it.

the new generation wants 2000 era cars. dont see how these 1970s and 1980s cars keep their inflated values

@jjefferyworboys8138

7 күн бұрын

The 70's and 80's cars keep their value because they are largely bought by more mature people ,who are at a stage in their lives that they have both greater disposable income and savings.

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Fast Fords from the 70s and 80s are doing well still...

@londonman8688

7 күн бұрын

@@oscarsgarage447 thats tue .. but are escorts appreciating now as much as later fords.

@londonman8688

7 күн бұрын

@@jjefferyworboys8138 i would say that is done especially for the 70s cars they have had full appreciation, that generation is looking to sell their cars but the next generation wont want them

Hi bud I am an automotive electrical and mechanical engineer. We grew up with all of the very much transport for everybody. It seems though now that the youth of the day don’t want them it’s a crying shame still I have my garage queen I enjoy. It’s just like a painting on the wall we can’t drive them because we will have brotherhood thug waiting for us with a blue uniform worthless system rotten with crime. Regards Alan from down under where we have the same system. The ABC and the BBC agenda is never let truth get in the way of a good story.

@oscarsgarage447

3 күн бұрын

I think the skill set of working on your own vehicles is dying off.

Prices are going to fall even further tomorrow once LIEbour get in 😳

@sg-yq8pm

7 күн бұрын

grow up

@lestrem11

2 күн бұрын

@@sg-yq8pm Not keen on his spelling (😉 ) but he may have a point.

That auctioneer was terrible. The tone and enthusiasm of the auctioneer makes all the difference

@nickcastings1568

4 күн бұрын

Still a lot better than that bloke from the container auction series on tv!

Sorry but most of those cars are the unloved and you can see why. Absolutely hate the Lotus Eclat. Looks like a plastic door wedge!

@oscarsgarage447

6 күн бұрын

It was of its time... remember the TR7, now that was a wedge!

Market has gone to the dogs Classics are for nothing 😢

metro 'starter classic' - TRANSLATION: shite car. that only a fool would buy

@oscarsgarage447

7 күн бұрын

Interestingly a friend of mine bought it, hoping to do a video on it as the Cabrio is quite rare now.

@tillyfoxtrotter

Күн бұрын

@@oscarsgarage447 It was always rare. Strange in fact thar Rover made it at all but they sure didnt make many.

Just old rubbish

That auctioneer’s depressing voice, gloomy face and lack of charisma will sap anyone’s enthusiasm for life let alone old cars.

Just old rubbish