Drake masters the business of HipHop, Kendrick masters the artistry of Hip Hop, and J.cole masters the nostalgia and humanity of Hip Hop.

@handlebyme

2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@FELLABORIS

2 жыл бұрын

Genius

@alem2443

2 жыл бұрын

j cole does nothing

@jefjef601

2 жыл бұрын

Humanity?

@bhutmaswidi2755

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said

The way I've thought about it is that Drake, Cole, and Kendrick all occupy different roles in the image of current hip hop. Drake is the body because he is more commercially successful and has more songs that you can dance too and feel on a physical level more than the other two. Cole is the spirit of hip hop because he makes song that you can connect to and relate to on a more personal and human level more than the other two. Kendrick is the mind of hip hop because when you put on a Kendrick Lamar album you go into it expecting to come out with new thoughts and ideas and he makes you think more than the other two artists.

@jayc5756

2 жыл бұрын

FACTS!!!

@CookieHeadQuaters

2 жыл бұрын

This right here…

@johnzgambo9818

Жыл бұрын

This is so perfect man

@roachesworld3170

Жыл бұрын

Amazing explanation

@seekgod365

Жыл бұрын

I agree with everything you said but ill say that everything you mentioned about cole is also true about kendrick in my opinion.

I know this may not be popular opinion but for most of us who are not from the hood and neither grew up rich, J Cole is #1 as he is more relatable. He really is the middle child between Kendrick and Drake. His subject matter ain’t as gritty as Kendrick’s or as flashy as Drake’s, he seems to be the perfect equilibrium. Also, don’t forget that he went triple platinum with no features: 2014FHD

@Abdullah-vg1uc

2 жыл бұрын

True, I relate more to cole than kdot

@simeonesdelle784

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@user-fd6rf8ht4u

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly man, Cole is by FAR the most relatable out of the 3. He appeals to everyone's humanity. Whilst he may not be the best on paper in terms of numbers (Drake) and artistry (Kendrick), he's the one that would be most people's "favourite rapper" if they listen to all 3 properly due to his relatability

@vsam3861

2 жыл бұрын

You’re right. This is not a popular opinion, probably because it’s wrong :/

@streetside2833

2 жыл бұрын

You're exactly right

I think Cole starting his album with “this shit too easy for me now” shows he knows he’s competing

@kennyshemar2537

2 жыл бұрын

I like this point

@angelusgnz5784

2 жыл бұрын

eh

@Abdullah-vg1uc

2 жыл бұрын

Cole has always been competing. Look at his features. Listen to middle child Listen to everybody gotta die Cole always wanted smoke. Even on the track with kdot ,Cole wanted the smoke

@jacobstevenson163

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abdullah-vg1uc yeah man I know this - just seems like some people miss it

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abdullah-vg1uc kdot would smoking him on a track

Cole literally says “the tales official, the best nigga breathing it just failed to hit you, you couldn’t tell cuz you fell for the bells and whistles” just a few lines later Lue 😐

@deebo3618

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you I was coming here to comment this

@Ky-go1wj

2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯

@noblemayombo9198

2 жыл бұрын

Preach my nigga😂👑

@ale.6195

2 жыл бұрын

Imo cole is overated, but that doesn't mean he's bad. His lyrics are average or below average for lyrical rappers. If you look at artist in his lane his bars don't really stand out anymore. I feel like Kendrick has better lyrics, and he outperforms cole in the things he talks about. I don't really like drakes music and in the rap game I feel like he's one of the best in his lane.

@gur1885

2 жыл бұрын

@@ale.6195 And thats your opinion For me 1. Cole 2. Drake 3. Kendrick

Interesting a lot of people interpreted Heavens Ep as “Cole accepting Bronze” and “Being Lil Bro’d. I thought the line was more of him just objectively looking at what people think he is… similar to KD saying people think Bron is better. A couple bars after he says “ The tale's official, the best nigga breathing, it just failed to hit you” He still knows hes the best and is just acknowledging that not everyone feels like that

@tibbyornottibby

2 жыл бұрын

he still knows he's the best? lmaooooo

@rafedanos3995

2 жыл бұрын

He definitely still knows he is the best and people think he is third

@ajgray6965

2 жыл бұрын

@@tibbyornottibby that’s what he said in his song if you paid attention

@kinglistertv9524

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@tropical9913

2 жыл бұрын

This is why you always need the full summary instead of just a single line. Good comment!

Lou can’t stand it when someone disagrees with him 😂

@lumiii7391

2 жыл бұрын

This! 😂😂😂

@ggguNeck

2 жыл бұрын

He’s a competitor 😂

@bigroddempsey4082

2 жыл бұрын

People in general can't

The fact that kdot is still in the topics tells u how powerful his albums can be he doesnt need to release every year to be relevant

@chancepope7395

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly man Kendrick's releases impact the culture WAY more in my opinion.

@Wavy-fs4mr

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Dogman sorry but that’s a terrible take. Kendrick is superior in every way. Albums, rapping, lyricism. You’re just a cole stan

@Perry....

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Dogman Are you shitting me?!? TPAB alone washes Cole's entire discography. Get a grip dude..

@Monrig

Жыл бұрын

@@Wavy-fs4mr you cant be a better lyricist when you are both at a high level like the two of them rapping is literally a 50/50 but if they got on the same song with eachother today cole would outperform him kendrick hasnt dropped an album that is on the level of even TOS since UU cole is better today and kendrick was better 10 years ago literally pointless to argue because its strictly opinionated is sumb

@Wavy-fs4mr

Жыл бұрын

@@Monrig I see your bias is towards Cole. It’s not 50/50 rapping. I don’t even know what TOS is? Anyways, on the track Black Friday Kendrick outperformed Cole by a wide margin in my opinion and I don’t think Kendrick lost any of that technical rapping ability. It’s a reason why Kendrick has better albums than Cole🤷🏿. Also 10 years ago? 🤣🤣🤣. To pimp a butterfly wasn’t 10 years ago. Damn era was not 10 years ago, his elite feature runs was not 10 years ago. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You mad NFR has Kendrick at the top spot? It’s all subjective at the end of the day

Producing your own music is a MAJOR W. Especially at the commercial level Cole is at.

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

NAh focus on your pen and songwritting and let the better producer make the beats

@DERRICKMBUGUA72

2 жыл бұрын

@@leorodrigues9596 so someone that can do both at the highest level shouldn’t be celebrated?

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

@@DERRICKMBUGUA72 jcole need to focus in one cuz he does neither of in highest level

@DERRICKMBUGUA72

2 жыл бұрын

@@leorodrigues9596 your delusional if you don’t think Cole is of the highest tier in hip hop

Imo it goes Kendrick Lamar > J. Cole > Drake

@fictionalcharactermov7471

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@Flo_Resolution

2 жыл бұрын

To me, It's Kendrick > J. Cole = Drake

How is this subject going over everyone’s head... I’m genuinely confused lol Cole never admitted to being third he adamantly stated that he’s the best in Heaven’s EP. He was just letting us know that he’s aware that the “consensus” thinks he’s third but he shut that down literally two bars later lol

@ayevisualz8726

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Idk why this is so hard to understand lol

@fyemusicplug6486

2 жыл бұрын

People want him to be delusional

@brackenfire132

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayevisualz8726 because it’s not hard to understand lol. Everyone’s just looking for an excuse to talk about shit and a target to draw people’s attention, and Cole’s an easy target that draws a lot of attention towards people that talk about him.

Let’s face facts Kendrick Lamar can go for 3 to 4 years without releasing any tracks but he will still be referred to as one of the greats he doesn’t have to release music every 2 min for the fans to not forget bout him…. His music got impact and will live withn us for a long time in fact forever🤝

@streetside2833

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine you're in a competition that has ten rounds and then somebody comes in the last 2 rounds and expects everyone to hand him the prize because he did good on the last two rounds. Kendrick loses points for me because of lack of participation. If participation doesn't matter then we can still put Jay Z in that top 3

@techandy1747

2 жыл бұрын

@@streetside2833 it’s not about how many round there is it’s in how impactful ur work is… U can drop 2 albums and people can feel it more than the other person who drops 10 albums🤷🏽‍♂️ Quality over quantity

@chancepope7395

2 жыл бұрын

@@streetside2833 imma remember this once Kendrick drops. Kendrick is much more mature in the fact that he doesn't sacrafice his craft just to release more stuff. J Cole and Drake will never do what Kendrick does. In the Heart Part 5 Kendrick legit uses himself as a mouth piece for Nippsy Hustle (RIP) Yes J Cole and Drake might be more relatable, but Kendrick is literally bringing up controversial topics (such as Black Culture and how its fked up) and can actually change the fking game

@streetside2833

2 жыл бұрын

@@chancepope7395 He could drop the most amazing album of the last 3 decades my point still stands. RAP IS A SPORT

Kendrick is just the greatest man

@qaqtix6700

2 ай бұрын

Nas exists

I love how they're talking about 3 mythical legends of hiphop whit theyre classic albums in the back gotta respect that

All three will be remembered that's for sure. They all have iconic hits and bodies of work with replay value. Also dope that all their names are their real names.

For me Kendrick is the top dawg from the two. He's like the combination of Eminem, Andrea 3000, Jay-Z, Pac, Biggie, DMX and Nas. He's got Eminem's cadence and Lyrical ability in his pen game while still getting commercial success. He's got Dre's acrobatic voice change. He's got that Biggie and Hov confidence and swag on his delivery. And you can feel that passion from his music like when you listen to Pac. He's also got that DMX gritty attitude on his Lyrics. And Lastly he's got that critical thinking storytelling ability of Nas. He's a full package

@wuspatterwukd9104

2 жыл бұрын

Fr

@wm_9640

2 жыл бұрын

Well said 👏🏻 The poetry of Nas The artistry of 3 stacks The passion of Pac The rhyme schemes of Eminem The off-kilter deliveries of Lil Wayne And on top of all that he’s still incredibly unique.

@hivemind3000

2 жыл бұрын

This! But I do love Cole!

@zimdollar3229

2 жыл бұрын

He's got masterful Kung Fu moves

@blessingmvananhlozi7362

Жыл бұрын

yazi uqinisile mfethu🤔

J Cole is the Nas of this generation

@cjn6564

2 жыл бұрын

that's an insult to nas

@oualidmh.1103

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutley

@purplenemo77

2 жыл бұрын

🧢

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

Dont disrespect nas like that kiddo

@brianlarkins4250

2 жыл бұрын

Please don’t ever disrespect Nas

1.Kendrick Lamar 2.Kdot 3.Kunfu Kenny 4.Oklama

@riyazsadiq1920

2 жыл бұрын

Fax

some of the best conversations regarding hip hop being held 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯 Interesting perspectives gentle men and I concur with both views 100%

Cole is the most traditional of the 3, he's more of a nostalgic rapper of what the game was like in the 90s and he's the most relatable & most humble. Kendrick is on top, then Drake

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

Sit down be humble

@levisperling138

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely wouldn’t say he’s replicating the 90s in any way, it was a much different time and the rappers were rapping about totally different topics than they are today, even his music sounds nothing like any music coming from the 90s

@R4NG3LW0ND3RZ

2 жыл бұрын

Cap

@thedon0516

Жыл бұрын

@@levisperling138 J. Cole has an old soul and his music can be very simple yet traditional in terms of subject matter and relatabillity just like the old school rappers.

@herivaldoagostinho1694

Жыл бұрын

Nooooo

I would rank them Kendrick > Drake > Cole But I think Kendrick is a significantly better artist tbh

@Realmadridfan309

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@tylerharris2430

2 жыл бұрын

Drake over Cole? smh..

@angelusgnz5784

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerharris2430 what does cole do that drakes doesn’t.?

@Rob_M_8

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerharris2430 Drakes 2011-15 run is better than any period of Cole imo

@ttgtayoijabiken6956

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rob_M_8 hell noo 😭 atleast not to me .

guys im binging your podcast episodes rn, pls and thankyou

The bars right after the one u guys are talking about showed how he truly feels about where he places. He said if he was in the limelight as much as the other two, he'd be considered up there like them mainstream wise. He literally said he's holding himself back because he doesn't care to promote like the other two do.

These are the conversations I love having with friends

Some people say I’m running third ( small forward ) , they threw the bronze at me (Lebron) People say it’s Jordan , Kobe then Bron but at the end of the day it’s subjective. He’s giving them their flowers , staying true to what he said on FHD - note to self , (thus adding to the imagery in the middle child video where he talks about drizzy , there’s a shot of loyalty tattooed on a girls foot who is in the morgue - loyalty is dead ) Then proceeds to call himself the best because you can respect others while calling yourself the goat ; look at Eminem and Jay. The people who think Cole is “not as deep as Kendrick “ in my opinion though don’t look hard enough into his content ; things that include his production changes as the album progresses , hidden bars and messages all over his catalogue (not just the surface level stuff) , not to mention his story telling ability and multiple flow changes. Crazy how some of his verses can be taken in multiple ways but people dont look hard enough and just discredit him . Cole gets the endorsement stamp from Nas , Em , Jay , Jada & Styles , Big daddy Kane , Gang star , Rakim , etc for a reason , he’s solidified. It’s like comparing Jay , Em and Nas , to each his own . Personally I choose Cole.

Speaking of lyricism and impact, when are we getting that Griselda episode? 👀

J cole underrated bro imma keep saying it. even if people place him 3rd.

@trenhen4311

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not underrated. Complete opposite. He’s praised as a lyricist but everything he does is surface level.

@jeremyhuard1537

2 жыл бұрын

J cole a better rapper than drake

@fictionalcharactermov7471

2 жыл бұрын

@@trenhen4311 that's not true

Love the videos guys I’m a big fan! Keep it up!

The ability to tell a story by cole is unmatched on some projects and you are not gonna feel cole the same as another black person my guy 🤝

@fabioexplores

2 жыл бұрын

Kendrick can paint better and HAS painted better stories

@ethanjacobs1314

2 жыл бұрын

@@fabioexplores very true but these guys each comes at rap from a different path of life and thats is reflected in their art, people should just stop comparing and enjoy them while their here.

@chancepope7395

2 жыл бұрын

DAMN, The Blacker the Berry, How Much a Dollar Cost, Sing About Me I'm Dying of Thirst, The Heart Part 5. I rest my case

@kiarce3

3 ай бұрын

@@chancepope7395no flow or melody tho

I agree with Ant, Cole is at that point of his career where he doesn’t have to confirm that he’s the best. No matter how big you are, if your artistry is at Kendrick’s, Cole’s, or Drake’s level, you’re always gonna have that mentality to call yourself the best. The difference is when Cole links with an artist with that mentality, instead of debating about it, he humbles himself and he gets the same response from them. I don’t think Heaven’s EP was a conclusion to where he is now, but rather letting us know where people place him at. When you listen to the song, you’ll notice he never agreed with that placement, he just said yea those two are superstars😂, and that’s what I love about J. Cole

Cole and Dot on another level than Drake as far as music that’s gonna be long lasting as where Drake is of the moment and catchy

@fictionalcharactermov7471

2 жыл бұрын

agree

@MR12AMAZING

2 жыл бұрын

Disagree personally. Take Care, Nothing Was The Same and IF Your Reading this its too late are still going to have replay ability in 20 years time.

@mandem2362

2 жыл бұрын

That’s only Drake’s mainstream stuff. Songs like Chanpagne Poetry and others on CLB are pretty deep and lyrical and aren’t in the moment. The Remorse is gonna live on for years.

J. Cole is actually #1 IMO if I had to rank them. The reason why is because I can honestly relate to him more than the other 2 and with every song that he puts out he hits me very deeply. Then I would say Kendrick comes second simply because I respect his lyricism and how with each album in his discography he has a different approach but they still somehow and someway seem to connect to each other and then Drake is obviously 3rd. I like Drizzy because he makes consistent radio bangers and has been dominating in that lane for 10 yrs plus and he can definitely spit, but to me his lyrics doesn’t hit as hard as Cole & Kendricks.

Anthony, Luca I love the content and consistency from you guys I’ve been rocking pretty consistently for the past few months and I know this was per patreon users requests so you guys have to stand behind certain points and I know you guys both respect and show love to all 3 artists and their crafts so I won’t get you guys Jammed up but I wanted to pick on a few things I noticed!!! A point Luca made at 8:20 that connects with a point Anthony says at 14:38 all in regards to the tone Coles name was spoken on so here goes the connection and I think it comes from lack of engagement with his catalogue vs familiarity with the super stars that are Kendrick and Drake (which PS this is probably what Cole was talking about on the Pipe Down Freestyle😂) like it is for most people.. Luca @8:37 if you wanted to go for Coles political consciousness direction conversation ‘Change’ is a cool record BUT that ‘Be Free’ live performance on Letterman infront of a crowd that thought he was there to turn up and dance 🤣 would’ve been a much better song or moment to plug into (Check it out if you haven’t seen it)… COME ON GUYSSSSS “Fat Joe Show Voice”.. and Anthony @14:38 like I said I know you respect Cole and even stood up for him being his own producer and giving him that hat to wear above the other two BUT…… I encourage you to take back a statement on him not giving us anything aside from Studio Albums, let me bless your ears homie… Back in 2013 Jermaine dropped an extended play (really a mixtape) titled Truly Yours 2 with appearances from Jeezy, 2 chainz, and his future artist Bas on there… play Cole Summer and 3 wishes then revisit the whole story telling convo with a little more fire under coles name the music ain’t just relatable that shit is incredible! Aside from that solid episode Gentleman keep up the solid work 💪🏼

Dope content! Cole is just warming up don’t worry.

Kendrick has been the best rapper since he was 25

@Killabeeeez

2 жыл бұрын

been like that for a while now, he's 29

if we’re being subjective then anyone of these artists could be anywhere on the poll. but if we’re talking about numbers and popularity then i’d say Drake is on top. these type of conversations will never have ONE RIGHT answer. These artists serve different people and obviously their fans would rate them on top. Cole isn’t in 3rd place. They’re all on top imo.

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

Your in denial cuz cole is ur fav. But if you measure everything his in 3rd

@reeroow

2 жыл бұрын

@@leorodrigues9596 bro Kendrick is my favorite 😂 and obviously I would put him number 1, but the point i was trying to make is that this debate will never have one answer.

J. Cole is a tough one because it really does seem like there are a few other guys that could really make a case as #3, but they have never had quite the mainstream shine that Cole has. Freddie Gibbs really comes to mind here.

imo, yeah i’d say so. cole has never had a monumental and generation-defining album like tpab nor has he released chart-topping singles like drizzy has. kendrick for sure beats both artistically, while drake edges them out in the numbers. i also think that dot and cole fall under the same niche of conscious rap by educating the youth, and even then kendrick’s gkmc does this way more masterfully than 2014 FHD. no disrespect to cole though, definitely one of the goats of the 2010s. i’d even put jermaine over kanye when it comes to lyricism.

@traplover6357

2 жыл бұрын

Old or new Kanye? Cuz I would put MBDTF and TCD to Graduation Kanye over all of J. Cole.

@tomv2063

2 жыл бұрын

@@traplover6357 straight up

@fictionalcharactermov7471

2 жыл бұрын

Cole is a better rapper than drake

@callmekimotv

2 жыл бұрын

Facts.

@TheBoyJA

2 жыл бұрын

kanye’s pen has never been as good as cole’s so i agree

1. Kendrick Huge gap 2. Drake 3. Cole Drake and Cole interchangeable

@jameswhu9042

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@fictionalcharactermov7471

2 жыл бұрын

nah cole is better than drake his album was better than drake clb

@curledseeker6139

2 жыл бұрын

@@fictionalcharactermov7471 I agree with the second thing but drake has WATTBA and IYRTITL

@yoloslapss8389

2 жыл бұрын

@@curledseeker6139 j cole has 2014 FHD and Friday Night Lights

@curledseeker6139

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoloslapss8389 i think 2014 is better than any drake but I think 2-4 goes to drake tbh

People seem to miss the bars later in "Heaven's EP" where he clearly states he's the best rapper breathing. This line about being 3rd behind Drake and Kendrick was the headline but many many people misinterpreted what he was saying in this song.

I think the bar is in the same lane as the "They think 2 legends can't co exist" bar. He's just trying to say although they may be competing, he still looks up to those guys and is inspired by them and vice versa.

Kendrick Lamar is #1 no question & I think it’s a huge gap. But after that gap, J.Cole is 2nd & Drake is 3rd

@Thatmansaint

2 жыл бұрын

Your mad

@Monrig

Жыл бұрын

thats just blatantly wrong

I love the energy in this video

And I agree Kendrick’s making his “808 and heartbreaks” with his new rock influenced album that’s gonna reshape the rap game🤷🏾‍♂️🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯 Nonetheless hip hop is alive

@avyukt7112

2 жыл бұрын

thats kanye you 1head

@leodropsknowledge

Жыл бұрын

Tap dancing

Fire episode

Cole x Drake X Kendrick the holy trinity, three-headed monsters. The last decade was the top three for me each of them brings something that the others don't I go to Drake to listen for a feeling and I listening to Kendrick for thought and I listen to Cole for the reliability and the emotion of a man who rap with a purpose to make you feel several emotions. It's hard to choose who is better when in my eyes they are GOATS.

@avnoorsinghkohli3967

Жыл бұрын

chill its not that seriousss

Bro he was totally right about Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers

To be fair they are all in different lanes of hip hop imo.... like they make different styles of music for the most part 🤷🏻‍♂️

@ale.6195

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like kendrick and cole are in the same lane, cole just takes more of a story telling side of it.

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

@@ale.6195 jcole is nowhere near kendricks storytelling. Actually i cant think a single categorie that cole is above kdot

@ale.6195

2 жыл бұрын

@@leorodrigues9596 I never said cole was better when it came to story telling, but I did say cole focuses on telling stories in his music

I see Cole as the type to not correct anyone if they think he's below 1st place bc in his head he knows he's 1st.

I agree with almost everything here. I love this channel and your perspective on this conversation. But one thing i have a problem with is you thinking that Kendrick is miles away from Cole and Drake. I think he's not. For me personally, it's a lot closer than you think. Cole is my personal favorite from three

@khairulkabir8489

2 жыл бұрын

Imo he is but I see your point

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

Hes way above and beyond but go off

@SoulOfTheSouth

2 жыл бұрын

I never understand why people thinks Kendrick raps way better than Cole. I don’t get it.

@split_head_776

8 ай бұрын

Drake clears with the vibes, but I would rather listen to Cole rap than Kenrick 99 times out of 100. I think Cole's conceptual albums, 4 Your Eyes Only/KOD, have gotten him undue slander. I actually think 4 Your Eyes Only is good. Also, people just live to hate Drake for some reason. They hate him, but you'd have to be a hermit to not hear his music. Kendrick is, inconsistent and rarely drops projects. No clue how the hell this guy randomly teleported to 1st place. "Every album is a masterpiece" is just a fucking lie, I personally would only listen to Good Kid Maad City. That includes this mid 5th album he just released. Cant believe 5 albums in 15 years somehow gets you over Drake, the guy who has dominated the entirety of that 15 years

Ive had Kendrick last since 2013-14 when I first heard him and Cole. Never changed. A few songs dont mean an album is perfect. Having 0 skippable songs means an album is great. Listening to it them front to back, Good Kid Maad City is the only great album to me, the others have several skips. Objectively, by my own criteria. Kendrick has 1 album with no skippable songs, Cole/Drake both have at least 3. Based on that the answer is easy. Drake dominated the entire decade, and personally I prefer Cole. If I had to listen to any of their albums on repeat, Kendrick would be the first one dropped. Even if its not albums, Kendrick's list of great songs is much smaller because he doesnt release regularly. This is all opinion, I dont have to love Kendrick the same way others dont have to love Drake. Its all about what you wanna listen to, not conforming others peoples favorites. Cole over Kendrick is a 'hot take' to others, but I think he clears

Putting Drake above J. Cole in anything that isn't sales should be a crime.

J cole is really good but honestly, I’d say that Kendrick and Drake are quite untouchable atm. Kendrick is the 👑 and Drake’s numbers can’t seen to be matched.

@nintendofannot4898

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly Kendrick and Drake always do something big or bigger. Just Kendrick's part in family ties and his part in King's Dead sets another unique more agressive energy. Plus most of his albums are regarded as the best albums of the 2010s. Drake always has a bridge from Pop to Lyrical. He always has some music to chart. We never know what we're gonna get from him. It could be a lover boy song a hype song or even a lyrical song.

Drake and cole being good friends and then Kendrick come in saying imma kill everybody that’s outside

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

Goat talk

@drejackson5464

2 жыл бұрын

We still waiting for him to kill everybody tho so I’m confused

@kikoferras7369

2 жыл бұрын

Kendrick always sending threats but not really doing it

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

@@kikoferras7369 go listen kdot snippet dissing big seanbut he take it off from element

@SoulOfTheSouth

2 жыл бұрын

Cole and Kendrick are friends also. Kendrick and Drake are not that cool with each other.

J. Cole is the goat. His music will be played the most in decades to come.

In terms of popularity? Yes. In terms of making a conceptual album? Kendrick is miles ahead.

@thatocavan8969

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't they talking about j Cole

@tatertots0046

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 Kendrick is lazy. He is too focused on trying to maintain some silly ass mystique instead of actually rapping.

@KestraMusic101

2 жыл бұрын

@@tatertots0046 the fact that kdot is still in the topics tells u how powerful his albums can be he doesnt need to release every year to be relevant

@tatertots0046

2 жыл бұрын

@@KestraMusic101 or it tells you how much people hate Drake that they're still trying to keep Kendrick relevant

@KestraMusic101

2 жыл бұрын

@@tatertots0046 Nah there are many artists out there they could have used to hate against Drake fam so many its facts that Kendrick is better , thats why his in the conversation how many rappers u have heard of that go silent for years but still are relavent commercially ?? i will wait .

Yeah, I agree with the dude in the blue. Facts!

Kings 🔥

Lmao every time Lou pronounces conversation as converzation 😂

"I'm on a money routine I don't want smoke, I want cream I don't want no more comparisons This is a marathon and I'm aware I been playing it back from a lack of promotions I was never one for the bragging and boasting I guess I was hoping the music would speak for itself But the people want everything else"

Did the guy in blue even listen to heavens ep, he was paying homage to those guys, he also said in the song ' the best nigga breathing, it just failed to hit you. You couldn't tell because you fell for the bells and whistles'.

Kendrick on top, Cole and drake are interchangeable

@gavatundejr4986

2 жыл бұрын

Drake above cole, cole dont have a project as good or influential as Take Care, And drake is overall more impactful as an artist

@aidencole5012

2 жыл бұрын

@@gavatundejr4986 Cole is way more consistent than drake sure most cole projects are like 6/10 but more than half of drake albums are legit bad. Neither come close to Kendrick tho.

@bakhtiyarguseinov9402

2 жыл бұрын

Cole def above drake, drake has some of the worst lows in his discography out of any rapper

@sads7999

2 жыл бұрын

Ya but saying j cole over drake just proves your a drake hater. Drake regardless of status has battle rapped more than Kendrick and Cole, and performed well on occasion, and made hip hop way more mainstream

@fictionalcharactermov7471

2 жыл бұрын

@@gavatundejr4986 no j cole albums are better

You guys should do a video about mixtapes that aren't on streaming services

Aye finally found this guy's from TikTok

The only ones I hold in the same regard or above Cole (in his era or semi in his era) in terms of lyricism are Lupe Fiasco (above) Kendrick Lamar (above) Big K.R.I.T (above) Conway The Machine (above) Nick Grant (same) Joey Bada$$ (same) Mick Jenkins (same)

For me it’s Kanye Kendrick drake and jcole all four are the heads of rap HipHop

As an MC Cole is definitely on top(I'm saying this in 2024) His lyrical ability just keeps getting better and better over time, and I agree he was worse than Kendrick, but now he's better. He has so many songs to prove he's a better lyricist, for example: -03 Adolescence -Fire Squad -Immortal -4yeo(song) -95 South -Johnny P's Caddy -The Secret Recipe -FPS +A lot of songs I didn't mention

They both almost got in an argument but they calmed it down (nfr podcast)

As always, I totally agree with you two but cole will forever be my favourite rapper

Drake is the voice of hip hop Kendrick is the soul of hip hop J Cole is the mind of hip hop

@younggod3906

9 ай бұрын

💯🔥🔥🔥💯

@jslf1871

4 ай бұрын

Kendrick is all 3 in my opinion 🏆🥸👍

The appeal of J. Cole is him being able to be human and acknowledging that the reception of his music affects him in some way. As men, and black men in particular, we are expected to be tough and never show emotions or insecurites. The whole thing about J. Cole is that he's able to show that vulnerable and honest side of him but also show the side where he feels like he can't be f'd with. I don't think one cancels the other. As an artist, you should express yourself, even if people don't agree with you or if it seems like it goes against what you said in the past. And personally, I don't think Kendrick is above Cole, no way, but that's just me.

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

And its just you cuz kendrick is more vulnerable than cole

@ouvretagueule

2 жыл бұрын

@@leorodrigues9596 I'm glad you think so, I still like Cole better

J.cole has mastered story telling..

Please talk tier 2… that’s where it gets difficult. Big Sean, Meek, Pusha, Mac exc.

Kdot. Certainly wins at consistency and album-making

@Rayne2013

2 жыл бұрын

I’d also argue Kendrick’s music will have an appreciation for years and years

@herivaldoagostinho1694

Жыл бұрын

Lyricism Storytelling Kendrick > cole

4:50 I feel what ant is saying you could say that the Griselda boys are better that Cole from a lyrical stand point but coles creates memories with his music and connect to the lister other lyrical rappers that you could say are better don’t do that

ant rly put drake third as he’s wearing an ovo hoodie , the dis 🤣🤣

you guys gotta keep composure while arguing, that could fuck the podcast up in the future

Personally I don't think that Kendrick is miles away ahead from Cole and Drake, it's disrespectful to say that. To me they are all 3 interchangeable in the standing. We have 3 🐐, let's appreciate that! My favourite is Drizzy though!

@jayc5756

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY. Thank You!

@leorodrigues9596

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh you right its disrespectful campare kendrick to cole and drake hes way above and beyond

31:15 Yo 288k first week sales for a 12 song album is more than Great for this climate...its literally 3rd highest for hip hop and top 5 for overall falling behind a 27 song and a 21 song album...Olivio Rodrigo whos been the biggest pop star this year sold 295k even with 3 no. 1 singles on her album.....With the changes billboard made with album sales alot artists albums naturally dropped so STREAMING is the main determinant...thats why tracklisting matters

We need that Mainstream vs Underground video.

This lu guy is always in a mood to argue 😭

You guys gotta do the soundcloud one tho☝️

Guess we know the answer now lol

@mrerri2363

Ай бұрын

Lmao

I agree

5:10 hahahah I'm dead 😂

Cole literally says he the best on heavens ep

Kendrick, Drake ,J Cole

Yes

Cole dropped the off season the day after a special person said yes to me🤩

Cole, Drake, Kendrick Cole also the best wordsmith

I see you with the OVO hoodie 👀

J cole for the creativity and passion, Drake for a perfect blend between rap/r&b and radio hits, Kendrick for straight bars and old school inspired sound

Which artists are the 3 headed monster of the 00s that we would equate to the level of Drake, J cole and Kendrick lamar?

@mandem2362

2 жыл бұрын

Eminem, Hov, and Nas. Then without them it’s Wayne, Ye and 50 Cent.

Yes he is....numbers and popularity wise.

@nfrpodcast after the Cole features and d-day mixtape has anything changed

Yes.

I think there is something to say about J Cole being bar for bar more consistent even though Kdot is might be better overall

I agree it feels like cole is accepting the Bronze not saying he should buy he should've exuded more confidence. Even middle child it's the similar sentiment and I do think j.cole is 2 and kendrick is bronze strictly bc he is not as prolific

yes. yes he is

Kanye ahead of all em

@burritogamer3984

2 жыл бұрын

feels like this ranking is more for a more recent generation of rappers tho, kanye still precedes them with his come up being early 2000s

@TuneSquad296

2 жыл бұрын

As an artist, yeah As a rapper, no

@yoloslapss8389

2 жыл бұрын

Kendrick is better than Kanye

@flamingoxe5984

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoloslapss8389 definitely not in terms of artistry

@yoloslapss8389

2 жыл бұрын

@@flamingoxe5984 but Kendrick dropped TPAB and GKMC