Our Final Thoughts on Drake vs. Kendrick Battle go.nfrpodcast.com/EP65

@user-hj5wg5xw7r

26 күн бұрын

Euphoria, Not Like Us, 6 16 in LA and Like That better inform? Did you even listen to Might Delete Later?

@San.Garcia

26 күн бұрын

@@user-hj5wg5xw7r might delete later was ass. Stfu.

Damn it felt like these guys were about to drop diss tracks at each other 😂

@NFRPodcast

27 күн бұрын

👀

@yallamusic9134

27 күн бұрын

That’s just what love for hiphop can do. Sometimes you have to let it go to see it as a chess game.

@1MinuteVibe

27 күн бұрын

@@NFRPodcast Ant bout to leak his own diss track, and Lu already cooking up 11 responses. Maple leaf on maple leaf crime

@rizwankhetani5005

26 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

I need a We Cry Together edit of this

@NFRPodcast

27 күн бұрын

😂😂

@justhaku9240

27 күн бұрын

Fantano vs Los pollos we cry together is amazing

@Non-Existent13

26 күн бұрын

I'd pay to see that lmaoooo

@DFMusic811

26 күн бұрын

"Hum the FUCKING MELODY OF THE SONG" "IT'S BEEN 72 HOURS I DON'T KNOW IT!!!" ​@justhaku9240

@justhaku9240

26 күн бұрын

@@DFMusic811 AND THE WAY ITS LOWKEY ON BEAT

I hate when Mom and Dad fight 😢

@hungryutkarsh

27 күн бұрын

who's the mom?! XD

@alix0788

27 күн бұрын

Yoo

@charlinnell8971

27 күн бұрын

@@hungryutkarshant is mommy

@joshrentos216

26 күн бұрын

You were adopted

If you don't wanna listen to 30 minutes of yippidy-yappidy, i got you: Ant: If J. Cole drops album of the decade, he's on the same level as k-dot. Lu: No ...

@tariq6319

27 күн бұрын

Thanks bro

@krestenpikhaar

27 күн бұрын

He will never be lmfao wtf

@Clashedroyaled

26 күн бұрын

@@krestenpikhaaropinions…. He is

@Cehesebrugre

26 күн бұрын

@@Clashedroyalednah, he high on the list but Kendrick is a genius. I love Cole, but Kendrick is above Cole.

@wavecontroller5647

26 күн бұрын

@@Cehesebrugreso your opinion won’t change if he drops a classic that surpasses any of kendrick’s projects?

‘THE FALL OFF’ has to be the hip-hop bible for our generation…he been working on it for six plus years

@Skin-mu5ku

26 күн бұрын

😢don't expect too much

@joaopedro.8206

26 күн бұрын

Its gonna flop/never gonna drop

@hemme100

25 күн бұрын

@@joaopedro.8206it’s going to be a classic

@loganlund6801

24 күн бұрын

​@@joaopedro.8206lol cope

J Cole will always be part of his eras Big 3-him, Kendrick and Drake are solidified in their spots forever. BUT, as a Cole fan now that the dust has settled, I do believe that this Fall Off album is probably the most important album of his career, or at the very minimum it's definitely the most pressure he's faced due to perception.

@luiz_fuego

27 күн бұрын

from the first track that album has to take me to another galaxy wen i listen to it

@NFRPodcast

27 күн бұрын

Definitely the most important

@user-uu1kf5wo5n

27 күн бұрын

@@NFRPodcast NO it's 2014, and I don't even think itt's his best, it just is his most important !

@anthonyhernandez13

26 күн бұрын

Maybe his dark fantasy moment?

J. Cole showed real maturity in apologizing. He showed he cared more about being authentic than getting streams, and I will respect him for it. The Fall Off is about to be AOTY.

@hintssabbat

27 күн бұрын

Stop it lol. He made a mid diss and ran, knowing kendrick would destroy him.

@talonfusco9564

27 күн бұрын

W pfp, love crae

@consolas2514

27 күн бұрын

​@hintssabbat he only made that diss because people were pressuring him so hard. It's so out of Character all over the track. Cole wants to be the best by showing his talent and not by tearing others down. Even as someone who doesn't fuck with him that much (the weird transphobic bars on PI and a some lyrics that in total make me question him a bit much), even I can recognise this in his character. Calm down

@RB-.-

27 күн бұрын

J Cole is not an album artist. People are going to be let down again if that is seriously their ultimate expectation.

@jaymc116

27 күн бұрын

@@hintssabbat yeah it was kind of mid I'm not arguing it's good. I'm just saying I respect J Cole for backing out of something he clearly was only half-heartedly doing

Cole literally has songs out that show he’s a top lyricist we can’t ignore that just because he backed out of a beef, that wasn’t his beef to begin with.

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

​@@Enneti Show me a song where Kendrick barred up the way that Cole did on Pi and Johnny P's Caddy.

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

@@Enneti Pi was packed with bars and not one was wasted.

@jojo_akay

25 күн бұрын

@@Enneti If you think Pi wasn’t one of Cole’s best verses of all time if not arguably his best, then you just hating. And answer his question, which kendrick verse(s) do you have over those 2?

@jojo_akay

25 күн бұрын

@@Enneti And you go ahead to pick some of his overrated and mediocre stuff too lol You’re a Kendrick stan, not a rap/hiphop fan. It’s now very obvious.

@Human-panda

25 күн бұрын

​@@Ennetiwith songs like sing about me, dying of thirst, you had to choose those?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love when they argue bro said you yapping and calling me arrogant 😂

Sometimes Lou and Ant are actually saying the same thing but they go off on each other so their point sounds most dominant lol

@megalamoniacal

26 күн бұрын

I think in this case Ant is trying to say there’s still a road for Cole to take where he could be considered better than Kendrick and Lou is saying “absolutely not.” I agree with Lou. There is no road for him to take anymore.

@Dropnostop

26 күн бұрын

@@megalamoniacalit’s actually worse than that. Ant copped out by saying Kendrick’s always been my number 1 so no matter what cole can’t be number 1. But is mad lou feels the same way for a different reason lolol.

@dylanwebb6117

25 күн бұрын

I was hoping to find a comment addressing this 😂

J Cole is definitely in the GOAT conversation. I'm team K dot all the way but J Cole can still be the greatest you don't have to war to be great

@SweaterSwagg

25 күн бұрын

No masterpiece albums, no unique ideas brought to the game, no influence on any subsequent relevant rappers, he's solid but GOAT of what bruh

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

25 күн бұрын

People really acting like finding dirt on other rappers and calling them pedos makes you a better rapper. Rap beef is cool but it never decided who was the better rapper.

@loganlund6801

24 күн бұрын

​@@SweaterSwagg4yeo is a masterpiece. I would say 2014 is too. Imo born sinner as well

@yourgrandmama

23 күн бұрын

@@SweaterSwagg You just yapping crodie

@jayyy1677

20 күн бұрын

@@loganlund6801heavy on 4YEO day my know about the rest

next JID album will change everything

@insight1239

27 күн бұрын

Facts

@astroh4936

27 күн бұрын

Do y'all think he can top TFS?

@damianperez329

27 күн бұрын

@@astroh4936yea if he takes his time with the album

@format9802

27 күн бұрын

​@@astroh4936TFS was like JID's GKMC... We know what comes after gkmc 😂

@iangarcia1585

27 күн бұрын

​@@format9802Jid is not Kendrick. Jid is Jid.

Im a hip hop fan and I been writing music for 18 years J Cole backing out isn't a stain bro.

Lou ignoring rap history.. Jay-Z loses battle to Nas but drops Blueprint, Black Album and cements himself as a lot of people’s #1. We’ve literally seen it happen before.

@manny2door

26 күн бұрын

Exactly

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

I just said the same thing. Kendrick hasn't been impressive since Damn and he has been rapping since...just been a little slow with releasing albums. Mr. Morale was garbage. His shit with Keem? Garbage. Now he no longer has his hatred for Drake to ride off of, so where will his inspiration come from next since now people are tossing him the crown? Will he even have that hunger anymore? He's not the great feature artist that Cole is and does not work with anyone outside of Keem.. I say if Cole drops one or two classic projects within the next year or so and continues to click up with the industry on his features then he will be able to make up ground. Cole is lyrically better and there is still ground ahead to cover.

@yaboycurtis1103

25 күн бұрын

Difference is Hov DIDNT BACK DOWN win or lose jfold did

@DonnyS997

25 күн бұрын

@@r.johnson1170Mr Morale garbage lol, just say that album isn’t your bag. It’s a great album but that aside I see what you’re saying. Cole been impressing consistently since 2018 whilst Kendrick was mostly absent and I wasn’t impressed by many Dot features in that time either. Now I don’t think he needs to ride off Drake hate to deliver heat either that’s also foolish, he can still bar up for sure but I think that’s down to him choosing what music he wants to make, since all his albums have a different sound

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

25 күн бұрын

Difference is that jay clearly lost a beef, cole just backed out when he realized it wasn't his beef. But yeah in terms of public opinion jay-z is the most obvious example of someone losing respect to gaining it all back

Luca shouting at Anthony and then telling him to calm down 5 seconds later is peak nfr

also it's crazy how we all say cole apologized but he never used the word sorry or apologize during that whole speech lol

@TribeExcursions

27 күн бұрын

Damn he didn’t when you think about it😂😂😂

@ayevisualz8726

26 күн бұрын

He definitely didn’t but the internet ran with that Narrative lol

@chief-long-john

26 күн бұрын

Oh come on. As a rap fan you have to understand how this works. You can even apologize without speaking. Imagine I stepped on your brand new shoes, said nothing, but bought you the exact same shoes brand new as a gesture, that's literally an apology. He apologized

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

THAT'S WHAT THE FUCK I'M SAYING 😂😂😂. Just like on Heaven's EP where he said "niggas threw the bronze at me" and Akademiks and other internet niggas spun it to him saying that he accepted the bronze. He said that the diss was lame because he felt no way about Kendrick's attention seeking antics and that he hope that his audience could forgive him from straying off of the path that's he's been adamantly walking on for the past 10 years. His choice of words could have been less meek though. Saying that he couldn't sleep the last 2 days and leaving people to interpret that it was because he was scared of Kendrick was crazy.

@ramsescano5622

19 күн бұрын

​@@r.johnson1170All this makes sense except for characterizing Kendrick's actions as attention seeking antics lmao. Kendrick wanted smoke w Drake and that was clear from the jump.

ScHoolboy Q really saved Cole's career wHen He told Him to back out at Dreamville Fest

@VareaIII

27 күн бұрын

Do the apology but it's just your voice my boy.

@grimeybussy7851

27 күн бұрын

Spectre, your half-baked comments are a joke, keep it up and and I'll turn ya to a ghost. I'll haunt you with rhymes so sick, you'll wish you had a antidote. You gon think I'm a phantom, the way I'm handing out smoke. 🚬🚬🚬

@nicholasanderson9019

27 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 saved his career?

@havocch6508

27 күн бұрын

Spec I would totally watch the apology but just my voice, would be funny as shit

@yannkyony3742

27 күн бұрын

​@@nicholasanderson9019k dot was about to kill that nigga but I think cole would end up at the number 2 song

I still love J. Cole he’s proven himself over the past 5 years I’m not discrediting his work all because of this battle tbh.

J Cole hasn’t lied cause nobody has ever out rapped him on a song. You don’t have to be in loved in a rap beef to prove you are the greatest. Get on a feature and see who got the better verse. Cole has proven time and time again that he’ll dominate anybody on a track.

If Cole and Kendrick got on a track together right now Cole is washing Kendrick. J Cole is the better rapper

@EvilSweboySMM2

24 күн бұрын

You’re funny

If j cole drops an album an album this that is considered a masterpiece and one of the best albums of the decade, and drops Kendrick disappears for a couple years, J cole will be the best in the game no question

J. Cole was my fav rapper before this, and will be forever after it. If anything it made me realize how much pride has a hold on me and how you need to just let it go. Imo Kendrick is the greatest rapper of all time but Cole is my favorite. After The Fall Off I think Cole could become a top 10 rapper of all time

@nils8584

27 күн бұрын

i like that you have an objective and a subjective opinion

@NFRPodcast

27 күн бұрын

W

@Goldstone67

27 күн бұрын

same my fav rapper is j cole but kendrick is a better all time rapper

@jfraz1992

27 күн бұрын

Of all time is wild

@MrASAPAB

27 күн бұрын

@@jfraz1992why do you have a problem with people’s personal tastes so much? Everywhere I go you’re complaining about people not liking the same music as you 😭

Cole has a lot to adress 😂

@grimeybussy7851

27 күн бұрын

He's gotta go fold a dress

@ilycozzy5790

27 күн бұрын

Like what

@dsmth3261

26 күн бұрын

nah only Kanye

I feel that if The Fall Off is a masterpiece, then the whole apology means nothing to most of the fans and the hip hop community and it won’t be a stain in his legacy but if The Fall Off is anything less than a masterpiece, the apology will always be a topic that’s brought up. But apology and beef aside, he said that this album will be like Reasonable Doubt…. To me, he put all the pressure on himself with that line alone.

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

25 күн бұрын

He's been hyping it up for over 6 years the pressure was already there

@enterthejaa

24 күн бұрын

That’s true but most rappers do that. Comparing it to arguably jay Z’s best album is something else entirely. Thats a new level of pressure and expectation. Hope he can deliver but we’ll see.

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

24 күн бұрын

@@enterthejaa I don't know the only other albums I can think of getting hyped up for so long are like detox and that's it, the fall off is an outlier by a large margin. Even like eternal atake took 2 years and that felt like forever. I definitely would not say that most rappers hype up albums for 6+ years

Kendrick can win on J Cole with his catalog but can't win on the feature run Features of Cole is a sector where even Kendrick is below him

@AllTheArtsy

14 күн бұрын

people only grade JCole's features because his albums are not that good tho. features are not even a factor that people usually care about 😅

The day we acknowledge in the mainstream that there are more than 3 good rappers that exist is the day we move forward as a society

@iangarcia1585

27 күн бұрын

Facts

@clkgtr12

27 күн бұрын

yeah bar for bar some unknown rappers would wash the big 3 and others but it's about accessibility

@iangarcia1585

27 күн бұрын

@@clkgtr12 this unfortunately

@Jbuckets23

26 күн бұрын

I really do like them all and have been listening to them for a long time now, but I feel like Kendrick is the only one who really is on that top tier level when it comes to pure rapping.

@iangarcia1585

26 күн бұрын

@@Jbuckets23 as far as mainstream rap I agree

The FantasticHip-Hop influence is real 😂

@lamarjohnson598

27 күн бұрын

How the FantasticHip-Hop influence will change everything...

@YFN12370

27 күн бұрын

🐐

@ebenezerbiniam71

27 күн бұрын

Do the apology but its just your voice

@gavin1391

27 күн бұрын

What does that mean?

@AliFrankTheTank

27 күн бұрын

he hates Drake more than Kendrick does 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

J Cole slander online gotta stop.

@TrapSection

27 күн бұрын

Unfortunately his alter ego has been set in stone as j fold legacy ruined

@iangarcia1585

27 күн бұрын

Ehh I don't mind it🤷🤣

@HowardoColeBrown

27 күн бұрын

Bro let us down to make up to kendrick dissing him first lol and sold drake out for some metro beats😂

@ace2311

27 күн бұрын

Nah the slander will continue. Cole fumbled big time not only on the diss, but on the route he chose.

@calisthetics

27 күн бұрын

Not really, people are apologizing to Cole now (including me). Cole knew that this was deeper than just a rap contest. ​people NOW are understanding why he backed out. Now that Kendrick got Drake out the way i wanna see him and Cole go at it now @TrapSection

I’m with Ant 100% with his take on Cole. If J. Cole comes back and delivers strong with The Fall Off that can absolutely will keep him up there even if he backed out of the battle with Kendrick. Cole has been the most consistent and most inform artist out of him, Kendrick and Drake for the past couple of years with the Offseason, Might Delete Later (even though I got mixed thoughts on it) and the feature run he has been on. I don’t think it’s fair to downplay and lower him and his discography all because he didn’t want to battle Kendrick which you can’t blame him for what was really going on between Dot and Drake. Cole has been putting on a clinic with just endless feature verses that stole the show every time and his rapping ability is better than ever. I truly think if Cole is actually putting 110% on his penmanship for the Fall Off this album might be on par with the likes of 2014 Forest Hills Drive and 4 Your Eyez Only.

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

He's going to have to make an album with a balance of FHD and 4YEO. A lot of people do not like 4YEO. He needs something that's deep where he's talking his shit, but will also need some shit that will hit commercially for the casual listeners.

Hot take: The falloff will have better lyricism than any project since illmatic

Greatness is greatness and J Cole is that guy with much room to grow.

Does Cole really have to take a back seat to Kendrick after his apology? The fact he chose not to fight might be a more noble move looking back, especially morally speaking. Ending a cycle of violence, taking after his character in “4 Your Eyez Only”. Kendrick built a character of heighten morals on TPAB, Cole built one on 4YEO, only one of them stayed the course.

Cole’s the only artist that would gave K Dot a run for his money. But I’m glad he stuck to his roots and continued doing him

@ramsescano5622

19 күн бұрын

This means absolutely nothing when he had the opportunity to do so and folded.

@hayate_soe260

13 күн бұрын

Lupe can for sure

SOO Hyped for the fall off

@NFRPodcast

27 күн бұрын

Going to be crazy

everybody else: Tuesday NFR: Chooseday

Ant should narrate a movie, that beginning was smooth af

"you're just yapping at this point" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Can’t wait for the Fall Off hopefully we get a Kendrick collab on there reflecting on these past weeks and maybe other features on it like JID, Rome Streetz and Black Thought. With Conductor Williams on the beats and Cole reflecting on all the hate and how it turned to love at the end of it all! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

I love the friendship between you guys but that "you're just yapping at this point" and the "chill the fuck out" response had me cackling 🤣🤣

Cole definitely rapping the best rn. Tryna erase the run he been on no one has ever been fans

@ylgotbars4531

26 күн бұрын

Point exactly brother. He's put the artform on his back. If he didn't do features we wouldn't have had real raps on the radio and a song like "Alot" or "all my life" wouldn't exist.

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

​@@ylgotbars4531 What you will find is that most people who are tripling down on this legacy stained narrative were either Kendrick fans (mostly) or Drake fans to begin with. They still wanted Cole to prove himself to them as if he hasn't been lyrically smoking both for the past 5 years straight. Kendrick won off of Not Like Us and because he put out Meet the Grahams right after Family Matters. One song won the audience over because it's a bop the other won the audience over because of strategy. Very little was said about punchlines or bars. Kendrick's wordplay outside of the Melly bar really wasn't mind blowing as far as wit goes. Cole will never make more hits than Drake. No rapper will. You have to give him a crown for that, but Cole is a far better lyricist than Kendrick and I'll stand ten toes on that. There is a reason why we have records where Drake embraces rapping with Cole while Kendrick opts to sing when he's on a record with Cole.

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

​@@ylgotbars4531 Niggas are so unappreciative. I want Cole and Drake to both take a break and see how Kendrick puts the genre on his back. Nigga is not a hitmaker and bats below average when it comes to features.

@ylgotbars4531

26 күн бұрын

@@r.johnson1170 that is a bowl statement, but one I truly respect and can understand. I said that the best battle would’ve been Cole and Kendrick. Cole is a far superior MC to Drake, which is still no knock to Drake because Cole is a special MC. I definitely agree with the collaborations between the two (Cole and Kendrick), always seem to lack something like Kendrick doesn’t want to rap toe to toe with J. Cole. I’ve been telling everyone that I truly understood where J. Cole was coming from because of the mental place you have to go to win beefs nowadays and some of the smear tactics when it can’t be about the music, which I know Cole believes he’s thebest and has the stats/songs to prove it. If anything, I hope this beef now brings us back to the bars and good music because if so, Cole could be the ultimate winner here.

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

@@ylgotbars4531 It's a take that I'm comfortable with. Kendrick's best bet will be to tap into the energy he has now as well as the momentum and put out an album that will complement this moment. Otherwise, I truly wonder what will happen once he finally comes off of this high (putting Drake on the mat). I think if his next project isn't received well and Cole's is then it narrows the conversation again. You can tell who is acting out of emotions and who is acting out of logic when it comes to this whole beef thing. Anyone who doesn't think a 40 year old man stepping out of his self to cut low at a person that he is actually cool with just for public approval is wild. Anyone who can't tell the difference in Cole's participation and the other two when the record has shown that Kendrick and Drake have had a decade's worth of animosity towards each other is foolish. You're asking a grown man who is indifferent to channel the hatred that the other two have organically towards each other on top of asking this grown man to dig around for dirt on his friend just to show that he belongs in the conversation as the greatest as if he hasn't been outrapping both as of late. This wasn't about bars, this was about out snitching on and out gossiping the other...and these are 40 year old fathers. Hip hop is still immature.

You two are extremely passionate! Love it ❤

Y’all underrating tf out of Mr Morale. It’s not even comparable in quality to any Cole album. It’s not close. At all. Mr Morale is by far the best album of 2022 and shits on the Offseason.

@rizwanbhangar3021

26 күн бұрын

people think offseason is better and off season is better for me though.

@Humbleasamumble

26 күн бұрын

@@rizwanbhangar3021 literally no one thinks the offseason is better. It’s a 6/10 album with no direction or purpose, is sonically redundant, and while it does have Cole’s least offensive rapping and some of his better punchline raps, it’s a very forgettable record. Mr Morale is one of the best written albums ever.

@rizwanbhangar3021

26 күн бұрын

@@Humbleasamumble i like kendrick mr morale have skips for me but off season is banger

@Humbleasamumble

26 күн бұрын

@@rizwanbhangar3021 looking at albums as to what you can add to your playlist based on “skips” is the most brain dead way to value an album. By that logic an album with no direction, purpose and all only barely passable songs will be better to you than an album with many 10/10 tracks and maybe a couple you don’t like. It’s not a playlist, it’s an album.

@rizwanbhangar3021

26 күн бұрын

@@Humbleasamumble man i want album with good songs not with deep meaning or direction bullshit

Would love to see a top 10 featues of all time vid .

@ryandanahy08

27 күн бұрын

rick ross on devil in a new dress and kendrick on no more parties in la both top 10

@Kruger_69000

27 күн бұрын

@@ryandanahy08 cole jhonny p's caddy and eminem on renegade too . W take

@eatluxury8907

27 күн бұрын

@@Kruger_69000em on renegade is a top 3 verse from him imo

@BigAssPelican

27 күн бұрын

lil tjay on pop smoke mannequinn

@malvinelpinnoy

27 күн бұрын

Johnny P's Caddy (COLE X BUTCHER) is gotta be top 5

I will keep saying that he didn’t back out of a battle. He backed out of an unnecessary beef cuz he doesn’t have any animosity against Kendrick.

@yaboycurtis1103

25 күн бұрын

Too late for j fold

@Chille10

24 күн бұрын

🥱

@ramsescano5622

19 күн бұрын

You don't gotta have animosity to lyrically spar with somebody. You can't be saying you the top dude in the game for years and when one of the few that's on your level challenges you then back down. It looks funny as much as some of ya'l try to downplay it.

Slim dude is always in his head.

@avetlsyan001

27 күн бұрын

Slim dude is INSANE 😂😂😂

@jojo_akay

25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

Still my personal favorite rapper, but he cannot tap into certain themes after that. He cannot go and say again "i'm the best around, they fear me" and all that, people would not take him serious anymore, I know I would not for example

@AliFrankTheTank

27 күн бұрын

touché

how do you guys not have millions of subs? your love for the genre is amazing

Everyone wanna be a demon till they get chipped by a throw away

NFR IS ONE OF THE BEST CHANNELS OUT

@NFRPodcast

27 күн бұрын

Appreciate you bro!

1st off, great convo fellas. You made great points about the perspective around this entire situation and anticipation of the fall off. As much as I wanted to see Cole put himself in the arena of a 1v1 due to the fact that Cole grew up in that era of hip hop, Kendrick is someone that he considers a friend. No matter what he would’ve came with in said battle, it wouldn’t have been received well due to the fact that he has nothing but love for dude. The Fall Off and J.Cole’s position in the game is so on brand for who he’s shown us to be. The album title alone appears to sum up everything that’s transpired thus far.

Anthony… “You’re just yapping now…” Lou… “Shut yo whole ass up and make some drums bruh!’

Respect to Anthony. He really knows how to set his bias aside, great open minded person.

@doomalogist

26 күн бұрын

You're being sarcastic right, never seen him get in his feelings so much

Ima say this. If The Fall Off lives up and is up there as J Cole's Best Album and gets up there with Kendricks Best Album he'll still have a Right to be Called Best Rapper Alive

@macnedic3592

26 күн бұрын

Jcole will never have a TPAB or GKMC

@bigdaddylocdiesel5688

26 күн бұрын

@@macnedic3592 I'ma say this. J Cole's Unreleased song JAVARI/Want You to Fly over any songs from from the 2 albums. 2014 FHD > TPAB imo

@yaboycurtis1103

25 күн бұрын

Jfold had too many pump fake barz

@bigdaddylocdiesel5688

25 күн бұрын

@@yaboycurtis1103 "Idgaf about Lyin. When I learn these N***** Fraud" 🔥😎. Drake Battled Kendrick..... Only for his Reputation to be TARNISHED. I rather be known as J Fold then be known as a Undercover Diaper Sniffer 🥴🤷🏿‍♂️

@ramsescano5622

19 күн бұрын

​@@bigdaddylocdiesel5688yea bro we gonna need to drug test you 💀

Haha love the energy, this is what hip hop is all about. Props to you guys for having these conversations and stay friends lol

I've started listening to these guys recently as of now like a month. And still do not get used to them getting so into convos it really is like We Cry Together

J Cole backing out officially locked himself at number 3. I think he raps better than Drake but Drake just one upped him and even held his own. Even tho he lost. Drake gained my respect over Cole.

@MrASAPAB

27 күн бұрын

So Drake gained your respect over cole even though he was paying for people for dirt on Kendrick and made up several lies throughout the beef that we’re all false? These guys are my favorite artists but what Drake did was so lame

@samuelcarrillo4378

26 күн бұрын

@@MrASAPAB I agree that he is lame. But he didn’t rap bad. All I’m saying is j Cole cant talk shit anymore. He literally backed out. I’ve been trying to listen to j cole and his new shit sucks. I can only listen to kod. Even listening to 2014 is weird since he talks about how cold his is on the mic. He just ruined it for me that’s all

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

25 күн бұрын

@@samuelcarrillo4378not a single sentence you said is a respectable take

We’re speaking in hypotheticals as well. We’re saying “if J.Cole drops album of the decade” when we’re in 2024 very early to say so and as if Kendrick possibly didn’t drop the album of last decade so he could possibly do that this decade. Anyway at least there’s hope for J.Cole only time will tell.

I just hope the album is more conceptual rather than bar heavy. I want him to make me think, feel emotional, happy, etc. I want him to make me feel something.

I still don't respect it and it's not just Cole. I wouldn't respect it if Drake or Kendrick did that weak shit either. Cole still a dope MC, this doesn't take that away but it's still a wack move tho

Yea, j cole is goated

Literally just the other day Lu talked about how Freddie Gibbs has been the most consistent in-form rapper of the last 5-6 years and then today at 12:00 he just says J cole is bar none like what???

@WaddupYT

27 күн бұрын

The term “big 3” has done so much damage to the genre. So many people get forgotten.

@Jbuckets23

27 күн бұрын

Man I agree so much. And I swear bro it’s because everybody always wants to like compare rap to sports. Idk it’s weird 😂

@iangarcia1585

27 күн бұрын

Mianstream bias at his finest😂😂😂Honestly, I think Freddie Gibbs is a better rapper and makes better music than Cole though

@mlgdigimon

27 күн бұрын

@@iangarcia1585 thats not true... j cole is the better rapper

@WaddupYT

27 күн бұрын

@@iangarcia1585 danny brown, earl sweatshirt, freddie gibbs, Mac, tyler, future all have valid arguments to be better. And these are just the mainstream names.

Ngl, I have Cole at 11 all time in my list, if The Fall Off is 2014 FHD quality ir better, he could lowkey sbeak into top 7 convos

Right on gentlemen. The whole situation has been so crazy. As far as the apology, I'm glad he did it. I'm still think he shouldn't have released the song to begin with, so it was the best he could make of a bad situation. Given how long The Fall Off has been teased, I don't expect him to address everything going on recently. However, I do think Cole has a great opportunity to use it as some inspiration. I think he could still be boastful and confident, just approach it a different way. Personally, I'd like to see him go into the beef stuff on another project. Even if it's not based on it conceptually, or he doesn't address it directly in the lyrics, I think there's so much to take in from the situation that would make for great ideas to go super introspective.

Honestly, i have always preferred Cole to Kendrick and Drake but right now after what happened, I'm curious about how he's going to bounce back and what his choice of words is going to be like in the case of "ain't no way around it no more, i am the greatest..." (Fire Squad) when Kendrick clearly claimed he's selfish with the crown 😂😂

Respectfully no, the album will be really good, but it’s not changing anything lets be serious 😂

@jojo_akay

27 күн бұрын

So you putting Nas above Jay?

@SP2Crazy

27 күн бұрын

@@jojo_akay Nope. Even though Nas’s recent albums since 2020 have elevated his discography as a whole, it’s closer but I still got Hov above Nas.

@jojo_akay

27 күн бұрын

@@SP2Crazy Now, you’re displaying a bit of some cognitive dissonance. I’m genuinely curious, why do you still have Jay ahead of Nas, when Nas smoked him on the battlefield?

@SP2Crazy

27 күн бұрын

@@jojo_akay Hov didn’t lose the beef in my opinion, Super ugly was the most disrespectful track during the beef to me personally.

@jojo_akay

27 күн бұрын

@@SP2Crazy Objectively, he lost Otherwise, Drake fans can say the same thing about this battle

This is the topic I've been waiting for. Cole has to drop his best album yet just to keep the big 3 alive. His legacy is on the line.

I think, even with the backing out of the beef, J Cole, right now, is the most inform rapper I have ever seen in my life, throughout history. The only other times i can think of is Eminem with his SSLP to Encore run, and, yes, I include Encore, even though it was worse than the others, because that album was hindered due to leaks and might've been one of Eminem's best projects if not for that factor. I say this because of the four studio albums, endless features, and his involvement with 50 Cent and other Shady Aftermath artists projects. Then, secondly, I think Kendrick had a similarly in form time period, between TPAB and Damn, and it say that because he went on a phenomenal feature run, dropped 2 amazing studio albums, including arguably the greatest album of all time in TPAB, and also put out a phenomenal album in Untilted Unmastered. These two runs are the only ones I can think of that can compare to Cole from KOD to present day, and what's really crazy about Cole's run is how long he's been going. From 2018 to 2024, with 3 albums and countless features.

i disagree with lou on this he backed out because it was gonna get personal j cole is not the type of rapper to get personal its more so about ur craft and ethic its not about ur skeletons in the closests to cole so ion think that means he conceited being better then kendrick by doing so its the same thing with biggie vs pac Pac won the diss but biggie has the better catalog so that doesnt mean he cant be better the pac cole doesnt have a better catalog then kdot but unlike other rappers his projects get better and better while other rappers all be it like kendrick are still amazing albums they go down hill since tpab

@Obie_24

27 күн бұрын

From 2017 to now Cole hasn’t put out a better album than Damn

@anj2500

26 күн бұрын

Neither has Kendrick himself 🥰

@RobertTorres-fj2jw

26 күн бұрын

@@Obie_24damn was probably his best tho and Cole FHD

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

25 күн бұрын

⁠@@Obie_24off season

I'm so hyped for the Fall Off

I hope you guys do a Top 10 J Cole songs like you did for Kendrick

I don’t know how the fuck these two run the same podcast

J cole gonna finally fight Kendrick one on one only Bars not allegations. He did what was best for his career, imagine Kendrick calling J.cole a Nazi out the bat.

@Spectre0799

27 күн бұрын

Hot take: Kendrick had better bars in this beef than any mainstream rapper has ever had in a rap battle. Also J. Cole's 7 Minute Drill had weaker bars than every track from Kendrick and Drake. Kendrick only brought up allegations after Drake played that game with him first on Family Matters. Don't be wilfully ignorant

@jadencandelario7880

27 күн бұрын

Not really a hot take, 6:16 imo proves it

@BucketBeast123

27 күн бұрын

@@Spectre0799nah u wrong about that second take. Did u not hear the second part of that song? “Fly pebbles at your dome we the Stone Temple Pilots.” Second half was 🔥and he himself said it was only a warning shot

@grimeybussy7851

27 күн бұрын

​@@Spectre0799Spectre, your half-baked comments are a joke, keep it up and and I'll turn ya to a ghost. I'll haunt you with rhymes so sick, you'll wish you had a antidote. You gon think I'm a phantom, the way I'm handing out smoke. 🚬🚬🚬

@Goldstone67

27 күн бұрын

@@Spectre07997 min drill wasn’t bad lyrically. the diss was bad and the beat was and but the bars were pretty good

Might Delete Later came and went... so not overly confident about this.

@ayevisualz8726

26 күн бұрын

It was a surprise drop and just a mixtape so I don’t really matter

@saintkevinofficial

26 күн бұрын

​@@ayevisualz8726 There's always an excuse. Even if he did drop the album with promo, you'd say, "it dropped with little promo". I hate this shit man. No one cared about this project. It came and went, even with all the attention "7 minute Drill" got.

I wonder just a thought if J.Cole drops an album better than Illmatic or Tpab could he still talk about being number one? TBH the beef was alright but I feel like drake and Kendrick didn’t drop nothing harder than PI off of MDL. Plus I don’t look at the mdl differently than when it first came out and he says ppl don’t want no smoke on the same song cause of he will show he has the better pen and he has just look the ft he had on fps it was better than drakes verse. He hasn’t been on a song with Kendrick with both of them having their own verse since Black Friday so if he gets on one now what will happen? This might just be a lot of yapping though so yea

Kendrick and Drake hate each other for real - Cole doesn't hate either of them. Apology was disappointing in the beginning , but I get it now. Might Delete Later still an amazing project and The Fall Off will be a classic. Still comfortably top 2 for me.

Cole’s album WILL I repeat WILL be Grammy nominated

@r.johnson1170

26 күн бұрын

All his shit gets nominated for a Grammy 😂.

@yaboycurtis1103

25 күн бұрын

"F the Grammy Cs ain't neva done nutn for me"

Let’s be honest, if Kendrick had been the one to bow out, his fans would be falling over themselves to explain the level of wisdom Kendrick has. 😭🤦🏽‍♂️

@WaddupYT

27 күн бұрын

I’m not saying they wouldn’t but aren’t Cole fans doing the exact same thing rn?

@narwalesaurs7363

27 күн бұрын

​@WaddupYT yes but I think it would be more total shift in opinion

@akaibs

26 күн бұрын

But he didn’t…

@dsmth3261

26 күн бұрын

@@akaibs because its real beef between him and Drake. He doesn't have beef with Cole

@RobertTorres-fj2jw

26 күн бұрын

Well let’s be honest the diss was all drake in reality Kendrick knows what Cole is capable of they both know is that why he didn’t agree to get on FPS ohh wait he didn’t Because him an drake had issues enough with the bs about Cole not lyrically capable

i love how these 2 never be like "if you like this ill also agree" they always stand on what they believe and when they talk about hip hop its like they were never friends. love the content lu and ant

Love you guys content. I do wonder though if an argument could be made for coles 2018 - 2023 run could be considered just as great as the 2 highest touted albums in K.Dots discog (GKMC & TPAB). It's really hard to compare but I really think Cole Put hip hop on his back for almost a 6 year period and few rappers EVER could say that.

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

25 күн бұрын

Wayne def could

@ylgotbars4531

24 күн бұрын

@@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 absolutely Brother and I was in high school during that time so that’s the greatest run I’ve ever seen. It just sucks that he got locked up when he did because there was no one hotter.

J Cole is not capable of ever being a better artist than Kendrick Lamar, let’s be serious

@malvinelpinnoy

27 күн бұрын

Cole fumbled the chance with that back out and that was a permanent fvck up

@vicstone8817

27 күн бұрын

The fall off might go down as the greatest album of the decade and I still don’t think that’ll be enough. KDOT has GKMC, TPAB and DAMN.

@RobertTorres-fj2jw

26 күн бұрын

@@vicstone8817damn his best GKMC solid TPAB garbage

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

25 күн бұрын

🧢 he has been for a long time

@AllTheArtsy

14 күн бұрын

JCole's best is not better than Kendricks worst. JCole is just not that guy. I dont understand why his fans are this weird abt it.

Who u think won in this video... Ant or Lu? Who dissed each other better 😂

Can you please make a podcast with Knox Hill as a guest.I love watching both of your channel and his. Where you can talk about underrated songs or mainstream songs that are not much appreciated based on there technicality. Breaking down the song. Also talk about different rappers and rank them based on there techs, writing and delivery. It can be on features, solos or mixed. This can move on to albums. Also it can be verse vs verse battle between the rappers, as you take two rappers and come with there verses from any of there song.

Am I the only one not shaking with anticipation for The Fall Off? J. Cole has some solid albums, and he’s obviously a fantastic lyricist, but his only classic album is 2014 Forrest Hills Drive, as far as I’m concerned. By in large, I honestly prefer his featured work to his solo albums. The chances The Fall Off lives up to this expectation that it’s gonna be one of the best albums of the decade are low, considering you could definitely argue that he hasn’t released a universally beloved album in a decade.

Where is this Fall Off album of the decade hype coming from? Like legitimately. Cole having a couple of nice features with Benny & Lil Yachty doesn't prove to me he can finally craft a generational tracklist of song after song. Especially after the disaster that was MDL.

@abiolaadekanbi7463

27 күн бұрын

Exactly it’s hope and hypotheticals.

@nicholasanderson9019

27 күн бұрын

I'm also baffled by this whol narrative especially following the kendrick disaster, J Cole fans are loyal dogs for real 🤣

@kuatulyyy

27 күн бұрын

MDL is just the throwaways. The Fall Off will be the conceptual, it will have more storytelling, more bars, and etc. He's been working on this album since 2017. So thats why the conversation about album of the decade began.

@WaddupYT

27 күн бұрын

I think it has potential to be cole’s best project to date and maybe aoty too. But I don’t see it being this masterpiece that is aotd material.

@kuatulyyy

27 күн бұрын

@@nicholasanderson9019are you a fan of Kendrick? Because they respect each other and the fans also should have some respect for each other. The problem is the Drake, Kenny just wanted smoke with him, not Cole. So stop the slander and be more positive man 🙌🏻

This is how I know most of y’all “hiphop” fans don’t understand the craft. Winning a Rap battle has never been about being the better rapper…rather it’s just more about being the wittier and/or pettier rapper. That’s that, if you truly believe winning a rap battles makes one a better rapper then you truly aren’t qualified to be having these conversations

@vicstone8817

27 күн бұрын

That alone doesn’t determine who is the better rapper however it is part of an overall checklist. A rapper being “battle tested” is apart of the criteria to see if they’re a GOAT or not.

@Obie_24

27 күн бұрын

Kind of. It’s not the end all be all however its apart of the checklist. Plus there’s a lot more to battle rap than you stated. Also, cleaver & witty is apart of being a top tier lyricist. Abc raps don’t make you a top emcee. As well as battling is old as hip hop itself pretty much.

@jojo_akay

27 күн бұрын

@@vicstone8817 So Wayne, 3K, Big L, etc aren't one of the GOATs because they aren't battle tested?

@War4Skills

27 күн бұрын

It is a big part of it imo and backing out of it does influence your ranking.

@DaltonBurrowsz

27 күн бұрын

What are you talking about bro

He took a non contest not a whole L

Battle rapping ability is so low on the list of criteria to me (not heavily weighted). Far more important is song writing ability, artistic ethos, discography, lyricism. Traditional battle rappers are lethal with their diss pen game, but can’t write a song-let alone an album to save their life. There is no stain on J. Cole imo

I’m sorry bru but that rap beef was not the Super Bowl of the Big 3 which is irritating that you guys try to make it that way. It would be horrible if Cole’s claim to fame to take the number one spot was just through two songs in a beef against Kendrick. Let Cole try to get number 1 or claim the throne by making a generational album. Yall put Kendrick at 1 with the albums he’s put out and not through rap beef why can’t cole do the same?

@jojo_akay

25 күн бұрын

The slim guy is just a nerd who doesn’t understand how this really works

My Glorious King Jermaine🙏🏾💯

Diss or no diss Cole still holds tha throne today Kendrick hasn’t done nothing strong enough since 2017 Damn Cole been putting work since then you all both are lucky Cole is Humble “The Fall Off” December 2024

@Chille10

24 күн бұрын

Lol

People should look back at this rap beef and really ask themselves whether they would have liked cole to be part of it

Pi is the best song to drop this year

@PAULPAUL-2004

26 күн бұрын

It's heavenly

@johnherbert9171

25 күн бұрын

Better than anything kendrick dropped since 2017

@51teazus38

25 күн бұрын

He made an entire album about helping you get yourself together & you think cool rhyme schemes are better? Pray for you

@ramsescano5622

19 күн бұрын

​@@johnherbert9171chill 💀

Ant taking a dub here with j cole being able to come back if the fall off is immaculate

I believe that J. Cole has the potential to secure the number one position in the music industry, and all he needs to do is create a track that effectively addresses the mistakes made by both parties involved. This simple task could propel him to the top of the charts and solidify his reputation as a trailblazing artist.

Hold up let me ask Lou, how can you say, you cannot be number one anymore, if you lose a battle, yet the general consensus for years was even After Jay Z lost to Nas he still was considered to be the greatest rapper alive. Any has a point because if Cole dropped an album of the year and continued to then he would literally go the Jay Z route.

@RobertTorres-fj2jw

26 күн бұрын

Ty

Anthony gets so butthurt when Luka spits them facts😂

The anticipation for The Fall Off don't matter anymore, sorry not sorry🤷 Anyways, Montana by Freddie Gibbs & Madlib is the actual real deal💯

@MrASAPAB

27 күн бұрын

You’re so corny bro lmao, your boy Gibbs will go double wood but cornballs like you will hype it up for a week or two on the internet

@iangarcia1585

27 күн бұрын

@MrASAPAB you lost me when you were trying to bring sales numbers like they matter over the quality of the album, Piñata did 9k, but it's still a timeless masterpiece ten years later. Bandana did 16k, and it's also another modern masterpiece, aging like fine wine as the years passed by. Already Freddie Gibbs has two perfect albums, something that Cole would ever dream to accomplish, which he would never have and don't have. Talking about an actual cornball, which in reality is you Imfao🤣

@MrASAPAB

26 күн бұрын

@@iangarcia1585 lol, I bring up sales because you’re talking about anticipation, when the guy will sell double plastic and you’re here talking about anticipation especially with a guy who’s main praise is getting hype on the internet, lol. Piñata and bandana are timeless masterpieces according to you, but in reality, cole will always have more praise by way way more people and that is by hip hop heads and the legends themselves, regardless of what cornball wanna be hip hop heads like yourselves on the internet say.

@MrASAPAB

26 күн бұрын

@@iangarcia1585 piñata and bandana being timeless masterpieces are an opinion. At the end of the day, Cole’s music will live on so much longer and is impact is ten times that of Gibbs regardless of what cornballs like you on the internet think.

@Jbuckets23

26 күн бұрын

@@MrASAPABcool dude and the only reason J Cole is so big compared to him is because he actually got promoted by the industry unlike Freddie who got fucked over

Ant gets defensive any time they talk about Cole I understand that he is passionate but it’s super noticeable. Love these guys and what they bring to the music podcast game

That's right, Ant! Make Lu accountable for his words