Wow, so pleased to see someone who genuinely appreciates the engineering talent that we have in the UK and who's not afraid to challenge the current "fashion" of battery powered vehicles.

@terryjimfletcher

2 жыл бұрын

Horses for courses, most industry experts say that hydrogen should be for heavy goods, heavy plant, and aviation. Both Lord B and Harry are disingenuous when they say hydrogen combustion engines are zero emission, they produce Oxides of Nitrogen (NOx). Currently 98% of hydrogen production isn't green, so we'll need to ensure that the oil and gas companies don't try to push their grey hydrogen. It's a shame that he doesn't know that "Musk" is already developing Cobalt free batteries. There are also Sulphur batteries and even better, Solid State batteries.

@sarahlivingstone8367

2 жыл бұрын

@@terryjimfletcher They mention the NOx issue and have got around it.

@phamnuwen9442

2 жыл бұрын

The real question is if you're basing your economy on a synthetic fuel (hydrogen), why not just make a synthetic liquid hydrocarbon fuel instead? That way you wouldn't need to change the engines or even the fuel infrastructure at all. Refueling a liquid fuel tank is far faster, simpler, cheaper and safer than using highly compressed and volatile hydrogen.

@richlee509

2 жыл бұрын

Musk is a melt

@ryrylandcripps5811

2 жыл бұрын

@@terryjimfletcher exactly making hydrogen is one of the most energy intensive processes we have.

About 6yrs ago, I worked for a company who made an electric city road sweeper. Design duty cycle ( between charges) required was 8hrs. We developed it to have two batteries that could quickly be removed and charged separately. This allowed it to run pretty much non stop. Problem was price. Several councils in various countries had them for trials and loved them. Price of the diesel version was around £60,000. Battery powered version, over £200,000.

His points on inflationary vehicle prices are spot on, it’s been happening in stealth for several years now and it’s absolutely intentional by the car manufacturers who have taken the ‘easy route’ for EV development (BEV) by bringing to market unrealistically expensive cars that appeal only to the wealthy to make them feel better about saving the planet, which they aren’t doing by buying EV. Then the price gap in the range is simply filled in by raised the existing price of the ICE vehicles. Honestly, if we can co very existing engines to run off of hydrogen then we can use all our existing cars and stop building new as a way of fixing the planet - reuse and recycle as much as possible.

@sw651

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely true, we'll said. If you listen to auto execs from Ford or GM, they are going along with this push to worldwide socialism. According to them, you won't own a car in the future. You will simply call for one for a certain time and get a ride to your destination. No more just hopping behind the wheel and hitting the back roads for a relaxing drive through the hills. They are building electric appliances that won't give you the joy of running through the gears, downshifting for a corner, and hearing the exhaust note as the ram's go up and down.

@Obi-WanKannabis

2 жыл бұрын

It's crazy. The EU is partly to blame aswell, they have stricter restrictions on tiny city cars than they do on big luxury SUVs. It's clearly driven by money and not a wish to reduce emissions.

@wearetheremnants1615

2 жыл бұрын

Yes electric cars are about control not environmental factors

@josephward6422

Жыл бұрын

@@wearetheremnants1615 Yes, one can just see how they are shoving them down our throats.

JCB - well ahead of the game, I’m really impressed.

@IonorReasSpamGenerator

2 жыл бұрын

Statements in this video are a bit misleading: Some new li-ion batteries did not use cobalt at all exactly because of limited supply mostly from shady unstable countries, this is also done for reducing price which falling constantly as cheaper compounds being developed. Copper in Tesla car motors was replaced by aluminium, others will follow if not done so already both in terms of battery and motors to limit their EVs to readily available affordable materials or at least limit use of expensive ones to a minimum. Thus hydrogen is currently destined for special-purpose applications where low weight or special logistic requirements are more important, as there currently is not a way to produce hydrogen both cheaply and eco-friendly for a wide-scale application like civilian cars. While you can use excess energy from renewables, the energy conversion ratio for getting hydrogen through electrolysis from water is rather poor when compared to use that energy for battery charging. I would personally prefer a hydrogen fuel cell plug-in hybrid with a 30kW battery for usual driving needs compared to an EV with a 100kW+ battery for comparable primary do-it-all car performance any day, but without eco-friendly mass production and hydrogen infrastructure it does not make any sense to even bother, As for using hydrogen for combustion, this is at best stop gap technology that will be hard sell in any country with hash environmental protection laws as are expected to become the norm in the future... But wait, there is more, check some issues Toyota has with developing ICE hydrogen engine: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZX2EtJdpXdbVfqQ.html

@johnpeacock9673

2 жыл бұрын

All. These negative comments I’m sure he wouldn’t spend vast amounts on a pink elephant.

@SK-hv3zn

2 жыл бұрын

Germans are already working on producing similar type of fuel such as synthetic fuel.

@sre331l

2 жыл бұрын

@@IonorReasSpamGenerator do your homework. It makes more sense to use lpg, the energy density, and efficiency is higher. The CO2 produced breaks down with photosynthesis and is locked in by plants. Solar cells and wind generation doesn’t supply our needs, and is a poor use of land. Plant grasses.

@phamnuwen9442

2 жыл бұрын

@@IonorReasSpamGenerator You don't need to spam you battery propaganda in every single thread.

So interesting. This demonstrates very clearly why Engineers need to lead the way, get the status and recognition they deserve, and be represented at the top of British politics.

@ShipwreckCaptain

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly reason and logic do not dictate advancement. If the masses all follow battery electric development than that will side will be more developed.

@famus801

2 жыл бұрын

What ever the masses want will happen

@redpoll4628

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShipwreckCaptain this is true, sadly, even if this method is better for the environment, etc.

@yeovic2242

2 жыл бұрын

Can enough hydrogen be produced?

@richardprior6501

2 жыл бұрын

Bravo Baron Bamford keeping Britain Great

A brilliant video, our politicians are reactionary, they're very seldom pro active,they need to see this. Lord Bamford is a pleasure to watch and listen to,so modest,well done Harry.

@s2hjt

2 жыл бұрын

This is going to make me popular. Trump was proactive.

@julianl6369

2 жыл бұрын

Just with the sheer heritage and expertise, not to mention the quality of the equipment made by JCB, makes it likely they are on to a winner.

Finally a company that gives the legitimate credit to the hydrogen ,once and forever

I see JCB machines on sites, operators love them, managers trust them. Now I know better how they develop an engine for the future: they are amazing! Not just tractors and plant machines, but also buses, HGVs, LGVs and Electricity Generators will be burning clean and efficient! Blown away by this British ingenuity! Thanks for the video!

There's a chairman with his feet on the ground, understands his customers needs and of the common man/woman too

@bbbf09

2 жыл бұрын

But doesn't undertsand engineering or physics

@secallen

2 жыл бұрын

@@bbbf09 What are he and his customers missing?

@bbbf09

2 жыл бұрын

@@secallen physics & engineering. Not unknown for a CEO

@secallen

2 жыл бұрын

@@bbbf09 ...and his customers?

@bbbf09

2 жыл бұрын

@@secallen i don't think customers have had a chance to vote with their wallets on this yet , as its not being offered as a product. So you can't say customers are or are not being fooled. If it is ever launched then its possible some might get caught by this boondoogle as it offers - at first glance - technology they are famiar with (i.e. combustion engines). That is always a comfort blanket to those of conservative minded disposition. This is at first glance only though..and the fact you fuel them and they sound similar on start up belies the facfs that this approach is in fact very different from combustion engines they are used to. Long term (full life cycle) they will be problematic in servicing and environmental Nox emissions as well as fundamentally wantonly wasteful and will be very costly by comparison. If JCB get initial pricing at partial discount (i.e. hiding development and initial production costs as loss leaders) then the machines might be on par with current diesel ticket prices ..but long term with the additional very high costs of servicing and maintenance (compared with diesels) along with paying for double the amount of hydrogen that you would need compared with say hydrogen fuel cell then the customer will lose out - big style (JCB will win though). The sunk cost investment into the kit will likely keep customers coming back for more though - unless short term contract leasing lets them escape earlier. Whilst you can 'fool people for some of the time' overall and longer term this technology approach is a cul-de-sac dead end to nowhere. See my lengthy response elsewhere for the underlying physics and engineering reasons why that is.

Absolutely fascinating. It is easy for politicians to say we will stop using diesel at a certain point, without any consideration to the consequences.

@MickeyMishra

2 жыл бұрын

with war with China coming up I really want to see this really happen because you know what would be really interesting for politicians trying to actually talk their way out of that one. everybody's all great with electric until it gets really cold outside

Fantastic, I worked there for 34 years and saw the machines develop over my time but this is a leap forwards for all of us this could be the answer 👍

My word! I have been talking about hydrogen fuelled ic engines for years but folk seem to be conditioned to think electric. Now JCB have blown the lid off the arguments so I am ecstatic. Now we need to move this very rapidly into the consciousness of politicians and the public. Lets do this. Thank you JCB and Harry's Garage for covering H² so well.

@darrenkuthalane5080

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more!!! I've dreams of this since I was a kid in school playing around with electrolysis. Harness the sun to create electricity and hydrogen and the world will run on clean energy! No need for mining rare earth materiels or fossil fuels.

@darrenkuthalane5080

Жыл бұрын

@Edward Elizabeth Hitler it turns back into water when we burn it or use it in a hydrogen fuel cell. That's the beauty of it 😊

Wow that’s amazing, our Government should get behind this and help make it reality. JCB could easily be a world leader in this technology, and should be. 👌👌👌

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

That is not role of government.

@SharonD369

2 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 Nope your right, but without Government support with infrastructure it would never get off the ground. Thought that would of been obvious really.

@joedennehy386

2 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 its not the role of government but it kinda is. Look at the subsidies being poured into green energy, and evs. If a fraction.of that was put into a hydrogen supply chain they would be off to the races

@aflaz171

2 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 It is totally the role of government!!!!

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

@@SharonD369 No matter how much infrasture a government tries to build it is not going to overcome the issue of there not being enough copper.

I have always liked JCB, now even more.

@simonmawdsley6864

2 жыл бұрын

All rubbish. Fuel cells twice as efficient than a combustion engine and no nitrous oxide. Torque on electric motor better than on a combustion engine.

@kardy12

2 жыл бұрын

@@denisovanhybrid9610 And?

@bbbf09

2 жыл бұрын

@@denisovanhybrid9610 No - his point is well made I think. I suspect you don't understand what you are really talking about. So I ask also - what is your point exactly? Hydrogen fuel cells coupled with electric motors ( which in terms of power to weight ratios vastly outperform any combustion engines) can easily cope with whatever JCB do. You realise that the largest powerplant transports on earth (aircraft carriers) run on electric motors. The UKs new QE class carriers for example output over 100,000 horse power at props shaft via electric motive power. Getting onto to 500 times more than the feeble 250 horsepower that largest JCBs put out. Hell, my Tesla puts out much more than the largest JCB machine. Laughable.

@mikebradshaw8530

2 жыл бұрын

Am i listening to really outdated and uninformed information here? First of all japan has already looked into mass producing hydrogen vehicles a long time ago. Second all internal combustion engines can run off hydrogen. Third there has been hydrogen powered buses here in America for years. They are developed by a company calles the sun bus. Last but not least Toyota has the most advanced hydrogen fuel cells. This video seriously made me feel like my brain was losing 📉 intelligence.

@simonmawdsley6864

2 жыл бұрын

@@denisovanhybrid9610 but we’re saying fuel cells convert hydrogen at 70% to electrical energy compared to only 25% when you combust it! Please understand before one of us dies. 😀

As someone who works in the live events industry, this option would also provide a solution to the portable power sector. Hydrogen-powered generators would be an obvious route to take for not only festivals and concerts, but also construction ancillary infrastructure such as site lighting, etc.

This article is really interesting to me. I have experimented with constructing a hydrogen generator on a small scale and have made small amounts of hydrogen in my basement workshop. I have often wondered why automobile manufacturers aren't looking into hydrogen powered cars. It seems to be the perfect solution to carbon gas emissions. Thanks for the article.

@abdullahal-ahmati5030

Жыл бұрын

From what I understand, hydrogen isn't as energy efficient as electric or diesel, because there are big overheads to creating it and storing it.

@MrChainvapor

Жыл бұрын

@@abdullahal-ahmati5030 - Definitely would be cheaper creating and storing Hydrogen then refining Crude. Refineries are Mega expensive and regulated to the max. Hydrogen and nuclear are the future of energy. The big oil companies are just trying to slow it down because it will destroy their hold on the world market. Electric is still mainly created with fossil fuels. That is the only reason the big oil companies are even allowing electric vehicles to exist. The sooner we realize we need to take matters into our own hands and remove the government from the decision making, the sooner we can eliminate the need for fossil fuels and go full nuclear and hydrogen. The government is pushing solar and wind when neither can make even close to enough energy for our world.

JCB always the pioneer, amazing company.. and no I'm not an employee! Just very proud of a superb UK company.

@brayworthpark5542

2 жыл бұрын

@@strangelove9608 Agree - my company does a lot of work for JCB - they are great to work with, a fantastic British success story that supports a lot of other industries.

@garymurraya

2 жыл бұрын

@@brayworthpark5542 shame I believe they were so in favour of brexit which was for some of their very customers, farmers, a disaster and not to mention for many of the rest of us......... But yes, a good UK company.

@sweetfreedomGB

2 жыл бұрын

@@garymurraya I think people need to move on from Brexit now... my personal opinion is that once eventually worked through Brexit could actually be beneficial..it is what it is.

@barrynash5565

2 жыл бұрын

@@garymurraya I wonder if you ever thought, he might just know what he's talking about.

@garymurraya

2 жыл бұрын

​@@barrynash5565 i think a lot about brexit sir, and for me it has ended a 15 year old business. Does he know more than the government and banks and 80% of the chamber of commerce? Of course he and you and I always know what we are talking about, in theory, but when the majority of businesses are against what you think, well maybe "you" dont know and maybe the majority rules, rather than the older people and the bigots of the country. ANyway, its a futile argument as apart from the billions already spent/wasted in preparing for brexit, on both sides, we will never know if it works, as there will always be an excuse, but go ask the scottish fisherman, ask the farmers, ask anyone who exports to the EU, then get back to me with all he knows. Just as he is rich and successful, based on a family business, ie born into money, does not necessarily mean he, or witherspoons know what they are talking about....

Fantastic interview with Lord Bamford Harry, That interview needs to be shared around. I hope long distance touring cars can also use this technology.

@mikebradshaw8530

2 жыл бұрын

Am i listening to really outdated and uninformed information here? First of all japan has already looked into mass producing hydrogen vehicles a long time ago. Second all internal combustion engines can run off hydrogen. Third there has been hydrogen powered buses here in America for years. They are developed by a company calles the sun bus. Last but not least Toyota has the most advanced hydrogen fuel cells. This video seriously made me feel like my brain was losing 📉 intelligence.

@reonvanwijk

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikebradshaw8530 This is different in that it is a hydrogen combustion engine. Toyota cars and most green busses are mostly hydrogen fuel cell to electric motors.

@mikebradshaw8530

2 жыл бұрын

@@reonvanwijk Toyota City, Japan, April 22, 2021―Toyota Motor Corporation (Toyota) announced today that, toward the achievement of a carbon-neutral mobility society, it is developing a hydrogen engine. It has installed the engine on a racing vehicle based on Toyota's Corolla Sport, which it will enter in competition under the ORC ROOKIE Racing banner starting with the Super Taikyu Series 2021 Powered by Hankook Round 3 NAPAC Fuji Super TEC 24 Hours Race on May 21-23 global.toyota/en/newsroom/corporate/35209996.html

@tatradak

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikebradshaw8530 at last some one with a brain.. You are totally right.. Its incredible how people just don't understand when the knowledge and data is in plain sight.. Just look at the Tesla Plaid.. That battery pack could run a 8 tonne excavator all day maybe even a 13 tonne excavator..

@tatradak

2 жыл бұрын

@@reonvanwijk yes and that makes it 100x worse... Its simply a terrible idea. Plus the cost of producing the hydrogen.. Just not a commercially worth while..

Harry, well done for looking at this. So so interesting. Thank you for promoting JCB - a fantastic British company and well done to them for their engineering ingenuity. Look forward to see how this pans out in the future.

15:13 ha! He worked on the design of my 2zz toyota celica T-sport engine. This man is a legend! Any grease monkey or enthusiast would know it was one of the best 1.8 4 cylinder engines ever made. 😊

'Literally a flying visit' - Harry, the only KZreadr to have ever used that particular adverb correctly.

@paulredding5864

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed...not many people have the facilities to be collected by Jet Ranger 😎

@helipeek2736

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulredding5864 it’s a S76

@gdfggggg

2 жыл бұрын

It’s literally raining cats and dogs. Me: no it isn’t.

@DLWELD

2 жыл бұрын

@@gdfggggg It is! I just stepped in a poodle.

@DLWELD

2 жыл бұрын

@@CertifiedSlamboy That's literally crazy.

You’ve just cheered me up Harry !

@RalphEllis

2 жыл бұрын

Hydrogen sucks. Hydrogen is NOT a fuel - you have to make it from a fuel. Hydrogen is the mist inefficient energy storage known to man. you will lose 80 of the energy, before it powers your vehicle. Hydrogen can leak though any tank or pipe, no matter what it is made of. You can lose 2% of your hydrogen every day, through leakage and cooling. R

@rhett7716

2 жыл бұрын

@@RalphEllis tell toyota that !! 🤤

@andyjota8906

2 жыл бұрын

HHO generators are a great way forward!! Hydrogen is the most common atom in the universe and theres 2 stuck to every oxygen atom in the H2O water molecule. Water fractured with electrolysis is a super cheap and clean way forward and zero emissions will be easily within reach HHO engines burn clean and the only by product is water. HHO can be separated out very simply and hydrogen bled off and oxygen used for other jobs if you require.

@garethdavies502

2 жыл бұрын

@@rhett7716 Toyota know already, they spent more last 6months in developing solid state battery's than they did in hydrogen. That's a big red flag for me

@idenhlm

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyjota8906 Design and build a power plant exclusive to hydrogen and all will be settled.Hydrogen on-demand, injected directly should be the obvious approach.

Only a single word is needed to describe what JCB have achieved and that is : GENIUS

Engineers like him are the people we all need to listen to rather than TV muppets who think they know it all.

Love how Lord B avoids naming the UK gov etc by saying "the powers that be" a Lordship doesn't come without the perks, benefits or OTC payments for being one . But all in all JCB is an awesome British brand which I credit him for, looking forward and investing for the future for green energy and maintaining a skilled workforce that can move with the times and technology..

@Tom_Hadler

2 жыл бұрын

"The powers that be" is while more vague; more accurate. It's not just UK gov, many other actors both official & behind the scenes

@mikebradshaw8530

2 жыл бұрын

Am i listening to really outdated and uninformed information here? First of all japan has already looked into mass producing hydrogen vehicles a long time ago. Second all internal combustion engines can run off hydrogen. Third there has been hydrogen powered buses here in America for years. They are developed by a company calles the sun bus. Last but not least Toyota has the most advanced hydrogen fuel cells. This video seriously made me feel like my brain was losing 📉 intelligence.

@donalddalley7274

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that he said fly-in.

@geoffaries

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikebradshaw8530 British Gas have been developing fuel cell engines, at Loughborough University since 1998 and maybe earlier, but we don't see them in many vehicles - why do you think that is? the answer is cost, you're either very rich or too stupid to care about us hoi polloi, did you miss the part where Harry discussed the price premium for a bog standard, small family car?

@mikebradshaw8530

2 жыл бұрын

@@geoffaries 1998 lol. You talk as if thats ancient. Listen dummy. That was an idea that was being tested. It was not manufactured in mass.

I was successfully running my RX 7 rotary engine powered 50 KVA generator on rainwater sourced hydrogen, 12 years ago 😎

@fenflyer

2 жыл бұрын

After 35 hours successfully running on rainwater sourced hydrogen a slight technical hitch caused a leak which blew the rx7 engine with PTO driven 50 KVA generator and the side of my workshop to pieces , explosion took my camera and recordings out also, the only survivor was the rainwater to hydrogen electric converter 😬

@ChrissyThePoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@fenflyer haha so a totally safe technology ready for consumer use then

@nordic5490

2 жыл бұрын

Very hard to tame detonation in a h2 ice engine. The reciprocating engines BMW was testing suppered knock. H2 works better in rotary engines.

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

You RX 7 idea is simply not viable for the whole planet.

@thecraggrat

2 жыл бұрын

@@fenflyer That must have been a hell of a leak - one that occurred in poorly ventilated areas that allowed for stoichiometric ratios of hydrogen, that then saw an ignition source...Hydrogen usually will self evacuate from a ventilated area as it is so light. Normal petrol usually forms a more explosive mixture as it is heavy and stays in place unless the area is really well ventilated.

This is rivetingly interesting. I have long extolled the virtues of hydrogen power but have always been decried as being too difficult and logistically impossible. This gives an insight into the future of motor transport and travel

Really good story, BMW was experimenting with this many years ago already. Makes sense to have more than one solution, aside from the fact that all these rare earths are very finite indeed.

This really is the future... well done Mr Bamford and team.

@Brascofarian

2 жыл бұрын

Mr? That's Lord Bamford and he's earned it, cos he's been fighting for British Manufacturing and put his money where his mouth is too.

@bobz1736

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brascofarian - here here!

@Lemma01

2 жыл бұрын

Born on Staffordshire, always been massively proud of JCB - a nice reminder of home wherever in the world you come across one!

@bobz1736

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lemma01 - so true. I was on a business trip in India and was amazed at how many JCBs there were. I think they have a factory there for the local market. Heart warming indeed.

The man is the only living human being to own two 250 GTOs, and makes no mention of it even to a classic car channel like Harry’s. That is class

@mikesage9544

2 жыл бұрын

Breeding more like me thinks.

@henalihenali

2 жыл бұрын

Why would he mention it...? He was educated at a famous independent school comes from a wealthy family and English gentlemen of his background are understated.

@candlercando

2 жыл бұрын

There must have been some blokes who owned more than one when they were still manufacturing them and much less expensive

Lord Bamford speaks all the truths. Would love to do some testing!

Inspirational firm JCB - we had their Fastrac at Silsoe back in the day. The JCB factory is an amazing place.

Please put Harry and Lord Bamford in charge of ......... well everything really.

@weinisable

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly not if they follow the logic they display in this mis guided , ill informed, bound to fail, little project.

@tyrrelli4733

2 жыл бұрын

and Jeremy Clarkson

@CertifiedSlamboy

2 жыл бұрын

Given his donations to the Tories, you're not a million miles away.

@secallen

2 жыл бұрын

@@CertifiedSlamboy The tories receive far more from the chinese.

@EamonnKee

2 жыл бұрын

Did he not move manufacturing of his main jcbs to India??? Is jcb not a tax dodging pro brexit? Got fined by eu for dodgy trading. Are pro brexit.. and yes. He is precisely the type of leader UKanians love. Posh voice and a title too. Oooh swooooon.

Great video showing alternatives……..I’d hate to be the labourer who forgot to plug the JCB in before going home 😂

What a fantastic interview with Lord Bamford 👍🏻 It’s the future and the U.K. need to embrace this and sell it too the whole world 🌎 👍🏻

Well done JCB and great interesting talk between Lord Bamford and Harry's garage. Thankyou

Extremely interesting, once you offer another refreshing view of the challnge we all face. It has been battery or fuelcells. And now this! You would not be Harry if you didnt go outside the envelope!

@weinisable

2 жыл бұрын

JCB / Bamford are a ledgend and respected in their field, ..but they are out of their depth with this idea.! Many greater minds backed by organisations with limitless research resources have been down this road and found it a dead end. Sure you can run an ICE on H2, but not easily, economically, reliably, or even safely,...compared to alternatives. Harry failed to ask (or know ?) the right questions.

Farmers throughout NZ have just been protesting against the government for pretty much fineing us for having diesel tractors and utes (small flat deck trucks)

@Aldoor

2 жыл бұрын

We will end up like Cuba with the oldest fleet of cars in the world as a lot of people like me Tow. Hurry up elections!

@BobJones20001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aldoor Don't talk elections. It's depressing, the choices are all bad. Pharlap or Crusher? Seymour maybe but I'm not certain I've seen enough of what he would do I don't see ICE H2 working, the consumption is much too high, fuel cell H2 is my pick

@richlee509

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aldoor they are all the same. All global puppets

The jcb top dog is proper professional loved this gave me more knowledge

Thanks for this video, Harry. I was convinced that hydrogen had a future in cars when I rode in a Honda hydrogen car from Malmö to Copenhagen at the COP 15 in Copenhagen in 2012 (I think). Hydrogen vehicles (buses and taxis especially) are growing in numbers in Denmark (as are EVs and PHEVs), where sales of petrol and diesel cars will cease in 2030 at the latest. Fuel cell technology can be - indeed is - used in shipping , including some of the ferries plying Danish ports. I was hoping that Lord Bamford would comment on electrofuels and biofuels in JCB machines, as they, like hydrogen, can be used in internal combustion engines. at least theoretically.

Great video! Love that the UK is at the vanguard of that technology and that JCB have an academy at that scale! Brilliant! Can we have a Harry feature on Lord Bamford’s car collection please!

@mikeuk1954

2 жыл бұрын

Japan has already invested in Hydrogen for cars. So we are not at the forefront of this technology actually we are running behind because of a lack of political will. Johnson for some reason only sees electric as a solution being blind to the obvious solution which is Hydrogen.

@azzajames7661

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk1954 I'm sorry you are incorrect mate, as the Japanese are using hydrogen fuel cells, which creates electricity that powers the electric motors that drive the wheels, however what JCB are doing is completely different to a hydrogen internal combustion engine 🤔

So interesting, thank you. I hope more the government and more companies get on board with this. It seems far more logical than every manufacturer trying to build big, expensive batteries

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

You'd rather they built big pressurised storage facilities for hydrogen instead then? Along with all the risks of having something stored at 10'000 psi near you? And those "big expensive batteries" you mentioned may soon be be much smaller, lighter, less costly batteries once solid state technology becomes mainstream........ And EV battery manufacturers aren't "trying" to build batteries, they ARE actually making them!

Excellent video -- especially dealing with the advantage of having competing or (perhaps, better) complimentary technologies. One of the ways in which we can think about progress is by the extension of possible ways of dealing with a problem rather than having to decide on the One True Way of dealing with them.

Great video, Harry. Enjoyed it tremendously...!

Absolutely superb content Harry - I was totally glued to my screen! Common sense solution to a real world problem!

Absolutely fantastic piece. I loved watching it. I am totally convinced that Hydrogen is the only way forward. Fair play to Lord Bamford.

@riggald9864

2 жыл бұрын

BMW had a Hydrogen internal combustion vehicle in their model line-up 15 years ago. It only lasted 2 years.

@John1986ATR

2 жыл бұрын

Is this video all it took to convince you :o

@IonorReasSpamGenerator

2 жыл бұрын

Statements in this video are a bit misleading: Some new li-ion batteries did not use cobalt at all exactly because of limited supply mostly from shady unstable countries, this is also done for reducing price which falling constantly as cheaper compounds being developed. Copper in Tesla car motors was replaced by aluminium, others will follow if not done so already both in terms of battery and motors to limit their EVs to readily available affordable materials or at least limit use of expensive ones to a minimum. Thus hydrogen is currently destined for special-purpose applications where low weight or special logistic requirements are more important, as there currently is not a way to produce hydrogen both cheaply and eco-friendly for a wide-scale application like civilian cars. While you can use excess energy from renewables, the energy conversion ratio for getting hydrogen through electrolysis from water is rather poor when compared to use that energy for battery charging. I would personally prefer a hydrogen fuel cell plug-in hybrid with a 30kW battery for usual driving needs compared to an EV with a 100kW+ battery for comparable primary do-it-all car performance any day, but without eco-friendly mass production and hydrogen infrastructure it does not make any sense to even bother, As for using hydrogen for combustion, this is at best stop gap technology that will be hard sell in any country with hash environmental protection laws as are expected to become the norm in the future... But wait, there is more, check some issues Toyota has with developing ICE hydrogen engine: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZX2EtJdpXdbVfqQ.html

I have to add. Thank you for the great production and presentation.

Proof that engineers should run industry, not financiers. When I started work in engineering I was told that accountants were a useful tool, but if put in charge there would be very little advancement because the key to being an accountant is to not take risks. The engineer must take calculated risks to improve the product or come up with new technology,

I've been talking about this type of ICE for some time now. I just didn't understand why someone didn't go ahead and build one. Brilliant JCB!!

@textB00Kcase

2 жыл бұрын

Economics.. Hydrogen made from natural gas is expensive to make and is the opposite of "green" Fuel cells make more sense in any case. JCB just wants to use the infrastructure is already has to make a very low efficiency ICE engine.

@UAPJedi

2 жыл бұрын

Infrastructure! Hydrogen infrastructure is hugely expensive, it makes a lot more sense for the vast amounts needed to go to heavy transport and heavy industry. For passenger vehicles it makes hardly any sense.

@buffviking2379

2 жыл бұрын

It's not something new, it's well known technology. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_internal_combustion_engine_vehicle

@ciaranwebb6871

2 жыл бұрын

@@UAPJedi Hmm. I'd like to know what is easier - scaling charging infrastructure for people who have on street parking (near enough half of the uk) or a hydrogen infrastructure. Rapid charging hubs not really a scalable solution - they're inconvenient for the end user and the load they'd place on the grid if everyone without a driveway relied on them would be too great. But rolling out millions of on street chargers ain't gonna be cheap or easy.

Fascinating interview, and very clarifying. There is hope in the future, to combine the classic combustion engine, with the environment. The best of the two worlds.👍🌎🚜

@guygadbois1068

2 жыл бұрын

Is it really the best when you're still dealing with hot oil, eventually leaky gaskets and seals, constant heat generation slowly degrading all the plastic parts around the engine, coolant systems, the need for a fully stainless steel exhaust system so it doesn't completely rust out from the water... From a philosophical point of view the combustion engine is a beautiful thing like a fine automatic watch, but it's a huge amount of complexity to solve a problem with a far easier solution.

@geral1187

2 жыл бұрын

@@guygadbois1068 well put.👍

@mpershyn31

2 жыл бұрын

This technology has been available since 70s. BMW invested a lot in Hydrogen engines, as I remember they made 750 in 80s

@vubear

2 жыл бұрын

@@guygadbois1068 Batteries simply aren’t the solution. They’re nowhere near being capable of doing the work and I use work in the scientific meaning.

@nordic5490

2 жыл бұрын

@@mpershyn31 and they didnt work well. Very hard to tame detonation in a h2 ice engine. The reciprocating engines BMW was testing suppered knock. H2 works better in rotary engines.

As a British born New Zealander I'd never heard of JCB. But he and his company (I'd never heard of) make me proud to be British. And I wish him well. I have always worried about the cost and disposal of electric car batteries. And they are so expensive and not every country has lots of spare clean energy (like NZ does - or did until we had a power outage yesterday)

Watching this for the second time when Lord Bamford mentioned our great British engineers I had a lightbulb moment, persuade the formula 1 genius engineers to take a good look at this technology. It would offer totally green racing and the tech would trickle down in the usual way

@kawasakikev8905

2 жыл бұрын

do you know that JCB are involved in Formula 1 already .

Wow ! What an opportunity. Lord Bamford is an absolute legend !

@nickturner2813

2 жыл бұрын

"Bamford", you ignoramus. Are you deaf also, how many times did he say his name?

@justabouteverything4924

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickturner2813 n0nce

@nordic5490

2 жыл бұрын

In what way mate ?, all I watched was a one side promotional puff piece with no hard questions asked. It is very hard to tame detonation in a h2 ice engine. The reciprocating engines BMW were testing suffered knock. H2 works better in rotary engines. Given an ice engines typical efficiency of 20%, and the entire supply chain energy cost of generating that hydrogen and distributing it, then 5 - 10x more renewable energy might need to be generated overall, to produce the same power at the wheels, than for a pure battery ev that has a >97% conversion efficiency. H2 fuel cell cars, are not much better. H2 fc cars are basically a battery powered ev with the fc charging the battery, and a h2 to electricity conversion efficiency of eg 40%.

@phamnuwen9442

2 жыл бұрын

@@nordic5490 Internal combustion engines are approaching 50% thermal efficiency. An EV is more efficient but absolutely not 97% with battery losses, and they're very expensive and impractical.

Fascinating and enlightening; please this kind of content coming, Harry. Cheers

@mikebradshaw8530

2 жыл бұрын

Am i listening to really outdated and uninformed information here? First of all japan has already looked into mass producing hydrogen vehicles a long time ago. Second all internal combustion engines can run off hydrogen. Third there has been hydrogen powered buses here in America for years. They are developed by a company calles the sun bus. Last but not least Toyota has the most advanced hydrogen fuel cells. This video seriously made me feel like my brain was losing 📉 intelligence.

@richspjones

2 жыл бұрын

@Mike Bradshaw Mike, it’s a shame your brain didn’t learn anything from the video, but mine did. We can’t all be equal!

@John1986ATR

2 жыл бұрын

@@richspjones What did your brain learn from the video?

What a fascinating video. Excellent interview with Lord Bamford. I think he’s right - IC engines do have a future; it’s the fuels that must change.

@aldelemo5817

2 жыл бұрын

Hands down hydrogen is the proper way to Climate change always has been, always will be, and it free...!!!

Very good in redesign of the top end to run this fast burning fuel. They should get together with CV Motiontech for their bottom end technology. They would then have an extremely good engine

That was very interesting and educational, top quality content as always Harry.

@mikebradshaw8530

2 жыл бұрын

Am i listening to really outdated and uninformed information here? First of all japan has already looked into mass producing hydrogen vehicles a long time ago. Second all internal combustion engines can run off hydrogen. Third there has been hydrogen powered buses here in America for years. They are developed by a company calles the sun bus. Last but not least Toyota has the most advanced hydrogen fuel cells. This video seriously made me feel like my brain was losing 📉 intelligence.

@kissumisha

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikebradshaw8530 Actually if you watch the entire video you see that they explain that this is nothing new, it's the way and application they give to it.

This has the virtue of pure logic and a lack of politics. Great piece Thabk you. Who the heck wants to lug batteries around 👏👏

@brendanmoran397

2 жыл бұрын

All the reasons you listed (logical, not political, smart solution) are all the reasons the politicians will never let it fly!

@janklaassen6404

2 жыл бұрын

Hydrogen cars are much more complicated than ev's. Also, that tank empties itself if it stands still.

@tomaskusnir2374

2 жыл бұрын

hydrogen has the problem of lesser efficiency - you have to transport the hydrogen around, EV's do not have this problem. On top of that making hydrogen itself is also not very efficient energy wise. Battery powered cars are not without problems either, however. I like the idea of hydrogen cars for the sake of the driving experience (engine sound, manual gearbox etc.)

@bryanfeeney8285

2 жыл бұрын

While it might be cheaper up front than an electric car, the running costs will be massively higher. To get hydrogen you need a lot of processing, which requires electricty. Transporting compressed hydrogen is also much more expensive in power terms than just running electrons down an overhead wire, even with losses in the grid. This is why battery-electric cars are better at turning watts from the power-station into miles on the road than fuel-celled ones. A combustion engine will almost certainly be less efficient at turning hydrogen into power than fuel cells (most combustion engines are about 20% efficient compred to 40-60% for fuel cells), so even fewer watts from the power station get turned to miles on the road. I'd imagine the running costs will be at least 10x worse. For certain commercial vehicles, in certain cases, this may make more sense. But for city cars for commuting and the shops, you'd be better off getting a used Telsa for ~£35K

@nordic5490

2 жыл бұрын

Your lack of logic astounds me. It is very hard to tame detonation in a h2 ice engine. The reciprocating engines BMW were testing suffered knock. H2 works better in rotary engines. Given an ice engines typical efficiency of 20%, and the entire supply chain energy cost of generating that hydrogen and distributing it, then 5 - 10x more renewable energy might need to be generated overall, to produce the same power at the wheels, than for a pure battery ev that has a >97% conversion efficiency. H2 fuel cell cars, are not much better. H2 fc cars are basically a battery powered ev with the fc charging the battery, and a h2 to electricity conversion efficiency of eg 40%.

JCB...bubbling with two things that are rare these days. Honesty and ingenuity

Great video Harry and I believe it's the best remedy for Heavy Machinery and even airplanes. However, hydrogen is usually stored in tanks 5000-10,000 psi tank pressure. Because the pressure is so high the tanks deteriorate very quickly when compared to Diesel or Petrol tanks. I wouldn't be very impressed if a Hydrogen station was built near my house, with all the risks hydrogen storage brings. Lord Bamford mentioned the rare materials that make up the battery, such as Lithium, Cobalt and Copper. Battery technology is advancing so fast now with the approach of the Solid State battery and other alternative materials being used instead of Lithium, Cobalt and Copper. Those alternative materials are not rare and will not get more expensive. In fact the solid state batteries are getting denser and smaller.I think both technologies have a place in our future. I love JCB and I hope the hydrogen engine is a great success.

@wigs1098

2 жыл бұрын

This is correct, great for heavy vehicles that can carry heavy tanks, not so practical for cars which will be limited in range simply due to the size of tanks required to safely carry the hydrogen fuel.

What an enlightening video Harry, filling a tank with hydrogen gas is going to be a lot faster than a slow charge from the national grid. Lord Bamford needs some investment into his hydrogen engine development as I would like to see them as a serious alternative to an electric car.

@rayw9067

2 жыл бұрын

Have a look at James Mays new Toyota. JCB and Toyota are onto it the electric car cannot last with technology like this.

@yup3398

2 жыл бұрын

@@rayw9067 his toyota is electric.

@rayw9067

2 жыл бұрын

@@yup3398 it’s a hydrogen fuel cell!! Which is a shit tonne better then batteries it’s forward thinking! Long term engineering! obviously we can’t just keep plugging our EV in fossil fuel powered power stations for ever…….Co2 emissions went up last year even with planes not flying and many many cars off the road 🤔

@lachywocky

2 жыл бұрын

@@yup3398 ha! yeah kinda

@yup3398

2 жыл бұрын

@@rayw9067 I agree batteries need to improve immensely from what they currently are.

All engineering has it's place and time . I knew a decade ago we would likely come around to this solution as the engine technology was never the stumbling block that scale of production and distribution of fuel is .

Brilliant video. As an operator of a 15ton 360 excavator it’s fantastic to see someone thinking realistically about our industry. When we turn up to a site there is NOTHING there, no infrastructure whatsoever, no drainage, no power, nothing, so our new electric excavators would need charging with a diesel generator at the end of shift what a crazy idea. This is such a common sense idea compared to battery power for construction machinery and heavy plant. Well done JCB 👍🏻👍🏻 Thank you so much for making this video.

Nice job JCB. Also, just pointing out- Toyota already built a H-ICE (Hydrogen- Internal Combustion Engine). They are also testing its endurance in 24h race in Japan. One of the main factors holding hydrogen back is its infrastructure, especially for refuelling, and cost of Hydrogen.

Thanks Harry, as you have said there may also be opportunities to convert diesel machinery to hydrogen, which looks like a much cheaper and simpler option than converting to battery power.

@toshe.6690

2 жыл бұрын

idiot politicians are the biggest obstacle.

@IonorReasSpamGenerator

2 жыл бұрын

Statements in this video are a bit misleading: Some new li-ion batteries did not use cobalt at all exactly because of limited supply mostly from shady unstable countries, this is also done for reducing price which falling constantly as cheaper compounds being developed. Copper in Tesla car motors was replaced by aluminium, others will follow if not done so already both in terms of battery and motors to limit their EVs to readily available affordable materials or at least limit use of expensive ones to a minimum. Thus hydrogen is currently destined for special-purpose applications where low weight or special logistic requirements are more important, as there currently is not a way to produce hydrogen both cheaply and eco-friendly for a wide-scale application like civilian cars. While you can use excess energy from renewables, the energy conversion ratio for getting hydrogen through electrolysis from water is rather poor when compared to use that energy for battery charging. I would personally prefer a hydrogen fuel cell plug-in hybrid with a 30kW battery for usual driving needs compared to an EV with a 100kW+ battery for comparable primary do-it-all car performance any day, but without eco-friendly mass production and hydrogen infrastructure it does not make any sense to even bother, As for using hydrogen for combustion, this is at best stop gap technology that will be hard sell in any country with hash environmental protection laws as are expected to become the norm in the future... But wait, there is more, check some issues Toyota has with developing ICE hydrogen engine: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZX2EtJdpXdbVfqQ.html

@idenhlm

2 жыл бұрын

@@IonorReasSpamGenerator Look at what's been achieved just by applying themselves. The argument you use seems more phylisophical than anything.

'it sounds more like a petrol' Harry and everyone else will be very happy.

@V8PropaneBurner

2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to running a hydrogen powered V8 in the future 😎

@Neojhun

2 жыл бұрын

@@V8PropaneBurner There is BMW Hydrogen 7. 6.0L V12 which kicks out a glorious 256PS and 290lb/ft. While being 2300kg. A glorious 111PS per tonne. (fyi H2 piston engine is idiotic)

@bbbf09

2 жыл бұрын

@@V8PropaneBurner The fuel tank for same range will be 7 times larger than a gas tank and weak power output will be about half for the same size engine. Hydrogen combustion engines are not the most stupid idea ever in the history of engineering technology - but they will be definitely merit an honorary mention in the hall of fame.

@lajucb

2 жыл бұрын

I have a dream. A hydrogen powered TVR.

@andrewb2514

2 жыл бұрын

​@@bbbf09 My "research" on fuel storage size says the number is 3-4 times but your point is well made. Maybe I haven't accounted for the low power output. What I can't work out is why a commercial fleet operator in particular would use a hydrogen ICE in lieu of a fuel cell when the ratio of efficiencies is at least 2:1 and I'd expect it's quite a bit more, the way that diggers, dozers, haul trucks & the like use their power. Anyway, they'd be paying at least twice as much for fuel, which is the major operating cost for any commercial vehicle. Many might say purchase price but as with BEV's, this will soon disappear and even if fuel cells are expensive now, in the commercial realm this would soon enough be overtaken by the cost of fuel. To return to your point, a hydrogen powered ICE vehicle will also need at least twice the size of fuel tank as one with a fuel cell drivetrain to do the same amount of work. Yet another packaging problem, and let's not talk about a hydrogen ICE powered vehicle having the same high maintenance regime as every other ICE powered vehicle when compared to electric drivetrains. Sounds like a dead end to me. Apologies for the rant.

Lord Bamford, thank you, Brilliant elegant solution for the world. Thank you, finally a leader on the ground with their customers.

Thinking that when you take into account the difficulties and costs of mining, processing and refining fossil fuels, the infrastructure for making making hydrogen isn’t any worse. Just need to keep investing in more solar and wind power for the electrolysis of water. On another point, I was impressed that they had found an engineering solution for the one issue there could be in burning hydrogen, and that is how to avoid the production of NO2. Great engineering and a world leading company the UK is rightfully proud of.

Excellent work by JCB. 🚜👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Harry, I love your work…please do your amazing videos justice with some better sound equipment…🙏❤️

We had CNG powered vehicles here in the USA in the late 90's but that had infrastructure issues. CNG was 89 cents when gas was $2.00. I really think we can get Hydrogen out there if the effort that is put into Electric infrastructure is put into Hydrogen infrastructure. Excellent Video, please forward these types of videos to our politicians in the USA!!

What a great, informative, classy and to the point video . The best video on hydrogen engines on youtube .

Splendid, Harry.

Harry I love your channel I really do, but PLEASE invest in some lapel mics. I could barely hear what was being said and it's not the first video of yours that I had that problem with. Aside from that, hugely interested in this tech, Hydrogen is the future.

BloombergNEF estimates that generating enough green hydrogen to meet a quarter of our energy needs would take more electricity than the world generates today from all sources combined, and an investment of $11 trillion in production, storage and transportation infrastructure.

JCB a British company to be proud of…I have worked on jcb machines as a fitter 👍.

I was in Japan a couple years ago, they have hydrogen filling stations for cars. I was so impressed i took a photo of one. It's definitely viable.

@simonhbacon

2 жыл бұрын

I believe I heard James May say that the UK has 3 H2 filling stations, nationally.

@edwardbyard6540

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonhbacon There are about 5. They cost north of £1.5m each and can fuel about 10 cars a day. H2 is woefully inefficient, and made largely from natural gas. For passenger cars, forget it. It is just not going to happen.

@bujfvjg7222

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardbyard6540 simple electrolysis fdrom sea-windmills. Problem solved....

@nordic5490

2 жыл бұрын

@@bujfvjg7222 simple solution for simpletons. Scania, the 10 largest trucking company in the world, says no newatlas.com/automotive/scania-ditches-hydrogen/ H2 cars are actually battery powered evs, with the h2 cell charging the battery. Efficiency of h2 is very poor @

@simonhbacon

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardbyard6540 It only takes about 5 minutes to fill a car, so i don't know where you get a limit of 10 cars a day. If its the size of the tank, this is easy to increase. Define inefficient, the video stated that it contained more energy than diesel for a given, presumably compressed volume. Video also envisaged generating H2 at off shore wind farms, electrolysing sea water. Costs will be driven down as technology improves and becomes more mainstream.

We have known for years that an internal combustion engine can run on H2. The trick will be to make enough H2 at a price that we can afford. And to date there is a massive hill to climb on that front. I don't think that will ever be solved. And that's before we mention the logistics of H2.

@russianbot1420

2 жыл бұрын

There's a company startup in Ireland dealing with the manufacture of hydrogen.

@VolkerHett

2 жыл бұрын

At least the storage problem seems to be solved. I remember BMW battling the leakage problems on their test cars back in 2000 to 2015. The tank drained itself within 9 days in the BMW Hydrogen 7 (E66 760iL). Oh, the 260 instead of 445hp and 3.6kg H2 per 100km at (subsidized) 10 Euro per kg where somewhat disappointing for BMW 7 owners at the time.

@andreasvgbe

2 жыл бұрын

hydrogen fuel cells are 2x more efficient, our professor says that it burning H2 in IC is not the way to go for the vast majority of applications

@GrrMeister

2 жыл бұрын

@@VolkerHett *And that's with NO TAX on it !*

@richardharrold9736

2 жыл бұрын

@@VolkerHett yep, and it was more like 200bhp... I've got an E66 760Li and can't imagine how miserable it would be to drive with around half the power.

I used HHO with a 1994 Ford pickup. The MPG increased dramatically under all conditions. The HHO helped the #2 diesel burn more completely. Amazing results There were a lot of issues and this would not work on newer vehicles. I discontinued the effort due to too much maintenance on the HHO generators. I suspect that Liquidized Natural Gas would do as well. It simply helps the diesel fuel burn more cleanly and efficiently. This "additive" could save lots of fuel for all types of vehicles with minor modifications.

wow this is amazing so their is hope that i could pass my early defender on to my son with low emissions and still pull our trailers that we use for horse transport business in portugal. .sometimes our journeys to shows or vetinary hospitals would not be possible by battery at the moment i also like the fact that no need for mining all these heavy metals regards Robert

Harry, You’re welcome to ride with me in the Countach Rally next month in my LP400S2 😃. Or I’d be happy to bring my 88 QVI also and let you drive it! I’d be honored either way.

We have the understanding and the engineering its " the powers that be " are generally made up of politicians , the legal fraternity and the most dangerous of all the " paid expert advisors " the majority of which are way out of their area of expertise - add to that lobbyists and its a disaster - we need more basic common sense !

@tonystanley5337

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately common sense cannot replace ignorance. These guys are either lying or kidding themselves, JCB appear not to understand batteries, nor Hydrogen. They will fail.

@andyf10

2 жыл бұрын

You have the engineering to make, compress and transport the H2 in a green way - that's the problem

@thamesmud

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonystanley5337 So explain how to build a battery light and compact enough to power earth moving equipment. If anyone doesn't understand batteries my money is on you, you appear to be believing the hype and not checking the figures for yourself. Do you realise that Diesel oil is over 45 times more energy dense than the best current battery packs? Even assuming diesel trucks to only be 30% efficient and electric traction to be 100% efficient the battery will be 15 times heavier than the fuel load. When you consider a semi carries up to 1.2 tons of diesel when full the equivalent battery will weigh 18 tons and not get lighter as the miles go by.

@tonystanley5337

2 жыл бұрын

@@thamesmud I would roughly agree with your figures, the best a battery artic can manage today is about 500miles range without compromising the load ability. However that meets the needs of about 80% of trucks. This is where you approach is wrong, you need to work out the daily use, not how much diesel a vehicle "can" carry, and compare that with how much recharge time you have. Once we have built out that 80%, battery tech will be more than capable of fulfilling the remaining 20% of applications. Did you know that the theoretical limit on density of a Lithium Air battery is the same as Diesel?..Yet with greater efficiency, so will have more duration. My rule of thumb is that you need 13xdiesel gallons use per day in kWh of battery. That means we could run a battery combine harvester (the most challenging of applications) for about 4-5 hrs today on 1 MWh battery. Battery tech is improving (Hydrogen isn't) and we can expect 50% more range per kg in the next 3 yrs. I fully appreciate batteries cannot do applications like harvesting that needs to be done maybe 24/7. There is no arguing they don't have the density today, but neither does Hydrogen, Hydrogen can just about compete with battery on range/duration if you use 10,000 PSI tanks and fuel cells, but it takes up more space and weight (contrary to popular belief), you just need to look at practical examples like the Mirai and Model 3. Using combustion engines and 5,000PSI tanks is a joke. I'm sure you can work out the rough comparisons are not pretty.

@rhett7716

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyf10 the real problem is rampant pop growth and rampant consumption !!

This is exciting, Hydrogen ICE. Congratulations JCB for pursuing this technology & not buying in to the whole EV being the future. Lord Bamford’s opinion on why the world has become obsessed with EV makes complete sense, seems obvious on reflection that VW Dieselgate & Musk popping up that started this.

The controls of the Fossil powered engines (ICE) are far more complex than the Electric motors inverters!

Dragging us into a future that actually works

@MickeyMishra

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad the British are starting to get their independence again and start doing what they do best actually make things wonderful

@manoo422

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha ha yeh right...NOT!

@mikebradshaw8530

2 жыл бұрын

Am i listening to really outdated and uninformed information here? First of all japan has already looked into mass producing hydrogen vehicles a long time ago. Second all internal combustion engines can run off hydrogen. Third there has been hydrogen powered buses here in America for years. They are developed by a company calles the sun bus. Last but not least Toyota has the most advanced hydrogen fuel cells. This video seriously made me feel like my brain was losing 📉 intelligence.

@Solidsnake0208

2 жыл бұрын

Mike Bradshaw you’re confusing this with a hydrogen fuel cell, which converts hydrogen into electricity which then drives an electric motor. This is an internal combustion engine that runs on hydrogen.

@vinlondon8904

2 жыл бұрын

@@Solidsnake0208 which is 200 years old outdated technology. Highly inefficient but I guess you wouldn't know that.

Even Ross Brawn predicted H being the future of F1. We need one of major auto manufactures to develop this in tandem with EV.

@rattusnorvegicus4380

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and limit the engines to 5k revs and develop throaty exhaust systems. Do away with KERS maybe.

@johngorton5468

2 жыл бұрын

Toyota are developing hydrogen engines and fuels at the moment they also believe internal combustion engines are not finished

@rattusnorvegicus4380

2 жыл бұрын

@@johngorton5468 Yeah, Scotty Kilmer covers the subject often. I think EM must have a contract out on him, haha.

@bernhard.k

2 жыл бұрын

Toyota an BMW

@londoner752

2 жыл бұрын

Too many with vested interest waiting their turn to get their investment money back on other energy sources. All lined up in a queue. Why Us Humans don’t get the benefits of ANY great inventions that hurdle existing tech.

Brilliant film, I never understood why we were not able to reuse the combustion engine with hydrogen. Very impressed with the work going on at JCB, hats off to them!

@bbbf09

2 жыл бұрын

Because what s the point of just re-using a dreadful inefficient exisiting technology especially if what you are fuelling it with isnt really sustainable (or at least is only sustaible via stupidly ineffiicent processes). You make hydrogen from electricicity. But *much* better just to use electricity directly not introduce a pointless extra inefficient step. (p.s. also you can't use existing combustion enegine tech - look up hydrogen embrittlement as just one reason why ---apart also from fact they are way too small to gove much useful power out with hydrogen)

Truly awesome, we must push our local MP's to get the government to facilitate this method of combustion. It makes total sense as it will create large employment opportunities for our British based engineers and supply industries. 😀 Great interview Harry 👍

Sir Bamford got a lot of balls to come out like this in front of his peers.. We’ll done Sir You certainly have common sense must be in your DNA 🧬 😌

@OOpSjm

2 жыл бұрын

huh? What are going on about?

@Only-one-life-68

2 жыл бұрын

@@OOpSjm I’m going on about what I said.. Sir bamford is coming out on video to tell his peers what he’s up too.. I.E. his competitors and those in government.. Those in government that think that it’s all going to be electric ⚡️.. As a major investor in the conservative government he’s also telling them.. That electric works in small but not in big .. Also he’s got some common sense.. Not like these woke lefties that think electric is the future for every think..

@paulbarton957

2 жыл бұрын

@@Only-one-life-68 “every think”?

@RichardASK

2 жыл бұрын

@@Only-one-life-68 It's Lord Bamford.

@Only-one-life-68

2 жыл бұрын

@@RichardASK Yes your correct sorry all

Brilliant!! A very interesting video, a lot of good sense being talked here. In my opinion Hydrogen is definitely the way forward and I do agree 100% with the Elon Musk theory!!

Great video. Thankyou for an alternative view instead of this one track mind electric will solve everything

If you need a solution employ an engineer. Well done JCB, a leading light in British engineering.

Hydrogen is already produced for next to nothing, using surplus tidal power electricity, in Orkney. The hydrogen is then used to power the hospital and the ferry when on berthed overnight. That is easy to scale up, and will be soon. Hydrogen powered trains are a big topic of discussion in Scotland right now.

@jayedgecombe2571

2 жыл бұрын

Shell is/has built a large hydrogen plant in Germany, hence the EU push for Hydrogen, Totota is developing a IC conversion for Hydrogen use,

@karlf.karlsen4365

2 жыл бұрын

This is the reason why Scotland could leave Great Britain, and do very well indeed. There’s no reason why Scotland couldn’t do what Norway did fifty years ago, and prosper. Scotland has a commodity the EU craves more than anything, - an abundance of clean, relatively cheap energy. If Scotland invested in infrastructure to exploit waves, wind, and water, and build cables to the continent, rhe EU would beg them to (re-)join the Union, if Scotland chose to apply for membership. The EU needs energy, and at the same time they need to decrease their dependence on gas from Russia. I am Norwegian, I have followed Brexit, and would nothing less than for our Cousins in Scotland to do well on their own, and have a prosperous future.

@thamesmud

2 жыл бұрын

@@karlf.karlsen4365 You forget that all these green energy schemes are subsidised, not by the Scottish Government but the UK government using mainly English money.

@karlf.karlsen4365

2 жыл бұрын

@@thamesmud So you don't think a desperate EU will do the same? They need green energy, and they need to loosen their dependence on Russian gas and oil. Scottish energy from wind, waves, and water is just perfect in such a scenario. And even if green energy is subsidized, it will become profitable in the near future. Oil and gas needs to be taken out of the equation as much as possible - specially after this summer of disasters - and green energy is the substitute. Rapidly developing technology will make green energy much more efficient. You seem like Americans when confronted with other nations doing things better than they do. The reply is always; Interesting, but it won't work here!

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

But surely hydrogen produced by tidal means would require transporting to where it is stored or sold, using large trucks which produce pollution?

Can we have a video of lord Bamfords car collection please. I have a feeling it’s pretty special

Got to admire the Brits! From Oz. JCB owner.

Very good, It’s good to see that Lord Bamford actually knows what he is talking about. Hydrogen is the way forward not just for JCBs but also, other heavy plant, busses, trucks, trains, vans and cars.

Great video. Lord Bamford talked real common sense. The future looks a little brighter with people like him in charge

@timboness1

2 жыл бұрын

He literally backed Johnson. So no, the future isn't brighter because of Bamford. The work his engineers do on the other hand...

Thank the Lord ( Banford ) at last someone with sense, all thats needed is convince the Government, lets be world leaders in Hydrogen

@seamusmcmahon1182

2 жыл бұрын

How can you convince bad people

@alexndichu6629

2 жыл бұрын

I have two problems with hydrogen engine, one too many moving parts calling the need for frequent servicing, two production of hydrogen fuel that would lead back to the problems we are running from, carbon production.

@Maurice_Moss

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexndichu6629 what if the production is linked to clean energy like wind etc?

@sheilamclaughlin963

2 жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t have to, there is a lot of H2 in water, there is the tech to break water out there and has to evolved a lot since I knew how and what they were doing

Can you imagine trying to drive an electric road train across the states of Australia. Or any vehicle for that matter. This must be the way forward wherever an internal combustion engine is used. Well done JCB.

JCB is absolutely a first rate leader in manufacturing today’s innovative heavy duty machinery, farm, industrial, and otherwise. Congrats JCB, keep leading the world with your tech. Far ahead of Cat, John Deere, etc.