Gray or not, he definitely is a badass and a great character.

for me, I interpreted Cal developing attachments and "time to leave the order behind" as a recognition that the Jedi Order in the prequels were flawed. a true jedi is about serving the force to keep balance and not necessarily about all these rules. especially when it was attachment in RotJ that brought back Anakin, but supressing his attachment turned him to the dark side. PS, Zee from the "golden age of the jedi" also called Cal a real Jedi too

@grimlord3181

10 ай бұрын

Attachment is a possessive bond, so the Jedi were actually right about that.

Read the title as “is cal kestis a gay jedi” and was expecting an interesting upload

@carlosboozer6017

Жыл бұрын

Well if you watched Shameless he is

@TacticaLLR

Жыл бұрын

🏳️‍🌈

@Butter_Warrior99

Жыл бұрын

Lol.

@sentientmustache8360

Жыл бұрын

After the events of this game he’s bi at most

@sprinkleman8103

Жыл бұрын

@@sentientmustache8360is that confirmed

No, he’s very much a light-side Jedi, but he’s struggling with his inner darkness, especially after the events of Jedi Survivor

@lucaricci1987

Жыл бұрын

This is the way

@garlixbread

Жыл бұрын

Grey Jedi would also refer to those that do not follow the Order, some consider Qui Gon a grey Jedi for example

@samreddig8819

Жыл бұрын

But the door is very open to him becoming a true grey jedi

@c.lvr2602

Жыл бұрын

​@garlic4742 Qui-Gon was one of the most Jedi Jedi to ever have Jedi'd. The reason he chose not to serve on the council was because he wanted to better serve the common people and follow the true path of the Force. People just use "gray Jedi" to pretend there are Jedi who use the dark side willingly and frequently, when doing so would mean they aren't actually Jedi. Gray Jedi don't exist. You can't be a Jedi and use the dark side without turning to it completely

@patricksavan7530

Жыл бұрын

He's a mix between a grey and dark Jedi

Tho Kanan also developed a strong romantic connection with Hera, as well as a more familial type of connection to the rest of the members of the Ghost crew. Not to mention that both Kanan and Cal were knighted as Jedi Knights. Tho I’m sure Cere would have disagreed if she discovered the romantic bond that was sparked between Cal and Merrin. There’s a lot of parallels between the two characters; but if anything they’re more like True Jedi rather than Grey Jedi imo; it’s their connections and relationships with those close to them that make them True Jedi imo. But I mean, not unless the title of “Grey Jedi” has become like a very wide ranging type of description, (which to my knowledge it hasn’t) but weather it be in canon or legends, the Grey Jedi terminology always seemed rather vague and subject to change by the fan base, and/or new shit is added to the teachings of the Grey Jedi constantly to help identify them easier) otherwise I think the whole “Grey Jedi” term just muddies things tbh, it should just be scrapped lol

@maninanikittycat4238

Жыл бұрын

Tbh Kanan reminds me a little bit of my dad. Especially with Ezra

@Roger-1999

Жыл бұрын

@@maninanikittycat4238 Yeah honestly, I get that tho. I first started watching the show when I was like 15, and the whole Ghost crew had just reminded me of my family, my parents, my older siblings and everything… it’s probably why I like the show/the characters so much lol

@owenparris7490

Жыл бұрын

Let's not forget Luke and Mara, or the High Republic Jedi who also had romantic relationships. Just bc a Jedi has a partner, that doesn't make them automatically "Gray" or not a Jedi anymore. Also I'm pretty sure Cere wouldn't have minded Cal and Merrin dating bc why would she care? The Order is gone and honestly needed reform anyway, and everyone's just going through life trying to survive and find out what being a Jedi means to them.

@Roger-1999

Жыл бұрын

@@owenparris7490 Yeah definitely. Tho, I really only meant that cause Cere is more bent on the old ways of the Jedi. Lesser so in the first game I’d say (cause she was only rediscovering herself in a sense) but in Jedi Survivor she seems more in tune with the way of the Jedi of old. At the most it would probably bother her, but I’m sure she’d understand since Cal is kinda alone and impulsive at times.

@Lord-Emperor-Vader

Жыл бұрын

@@owenparris7490 The main reason that Luke married is because the prequels were not out yet. The Phantom Menace would release the year after Luke proposed to Mara Jade (1998's Vision of the Future by Timothy Zahn) and the wedding happened in comics the same year The Phantom Menace released (1999). The attachment rule on Marriage/ dating was not really expanded on until Attack Of The Clones although the basics of no attachments were in The Phantom Menace.

I think the term "Grey Jedi" is a misnomer even when talking about the Jolee Bindo sort. Mostly because something we've seen consistently is that the dogmatic Jedi Order where they have things like rules against "attachment" and relationships are the versions that are about to be destroyed or fall. There are also eras where the Jedi allow and even encourage relationships both romantic and familial and their more concerned with morality than dogmatism.

@Tomwithnonumbers

Жыл бұрын

Jolee Bindo is 'grey' in that he specifically disowns a lot of the tradition of the Jedi of his own time, but not 'grey' in that he's clearly dedicated to the light

@michaeld.jconnolly1281

Жыл бұрын

Greys finished training and tend to walk away from the Order. They refuse the Darkside and are just outside the Order. They are more Self Exiled and keep using the Force. Since the Order is Destroyed well Call os more An Exile.

@zkapsh

Жыл бұрын

While I understand where you are coming and agree to a degree. I agree that calling someone "grey" is relative to their era. But your arguments against the jedi and what era are good or not. Your misusing the word dogma here. Do the jedi have dogma yes any big organization like the jedi that holds some moral, ethical, philosophical, political dogma. You need some kind of dogma to hold your group. Dogma doesn't make something good or bad it's the specific thing they advocate for that is good or bad.

@SephirothRyu

Жыл бұрын

I like to think of a gray jedi as being someone who doesn't follow the Jedi order's ways, but doesn't seek out power over others. They give in to a desire, but don't want to do the Sith things because its not part of what they desire. They would be willing to use the Force in pursuit of wealth or things, and may take bounties, etc. The Sith and major full-on darkside users tend to usually try to rule the galaxy or assist in doing so (often with dreams of eventually moving up from second fiddle to first fiddle).

The second well made Cal with facial hair I’ve seen! Wow, the customization in this game is intense!

@jackdubs25

Жыл бұрын

His base look is the best imo

@californiarespublica

Жыл бұрын

the customization is definitely an awesome part of the game

@TAP7a

Жыл бұрын

RIP poncho

@dutbud9049

Жыл бұрын

@@TAP7a You can still get the poncho, actually, it's just behind an annoying boss.

I think part of the confusion also somes from a misunderstanding about the Jedi Code, and understanding the difference between "Tradition" and "Doctrine". The Jedi Code is the Doctrine, but the "Code if the Jedi Order", forlack of a better term, is Doctrine combined with Tradition. That's why the original Legendsverse EU included alternative Force organizations, and why they also pop up in the Disneyverse canon. Being a member of the Order and following their traditions doesn't make you a Jedi. Leaving the order doesn't mean you are no longer a Jedi. Both the Old and New EU have commented on how one of the reasons why the Jedi Order fell was because at the time, that Order had near monopoly on Code interpretation and recognized authority. "Maverick" Jedi like Qui-Gon Jinn recognized the difference between the Jedi Code and the Order's Code, and would use that to "go against the Council", but at the time, Jedi like him were few and far between.

Geetsly just did a really good video on why most people misunderstand the force, and his points show us why the concept of grey Jedi is fundamentally flawed. He points out that, according to Lucas himself, there isn't really a "light" side of the Force. The Force is a fundamentally good thing that intends to do what is best for all life, and to serve the light is to do for others. To provide for and help other people, and through that selfless action to be proud of the good you have done and thus find peace. The "dark side" is the deliberate perversion and corruption of the Force's power to serve selfish desires, to improve yourself at other's expense. The Force isn't a Ying-Yang, two halves of the same coin thing that are vying for power with each other. It is just positive (the force) and negative (the dark side). The phrase "light side" was used purely for the sake of simplifying the concept to the audience. Basically we should stop looking at the Force as a teeter-totter with one side being light and one side being dark and the middle being grey, and instead look at it as a boat on the water. The surface of the water is the Force, and that is where the boat should be for it's own safety. If you poke holes in the boat and it sinks it is now submerged by the dark side and it will eventually decay and be destroyed. It is everyone's best interest to stay above water.

@JarvisIsMyCrush

Жыл бұрын

I love geetsly

@enzoamore8971

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Love Geetsly

@tiberiuscodius5828

Жыл бұрын

Spacedock has a good video as well - this is absolutely correct

@silcoxjakob

Жыл бұрын

But doesnt rule of 2 contradict that? If it wouldnt dilute the dark side why is their not a sith army

@tiberiuscodius5828

Жыл бұрын

@@silcoxjakob the Sith philosophy is wrong. That's the whole point. The Rule of Two really exists because any time a large number of dark side wielders get together, they inevitably destroy each other out of their envy, anger, and ambition

I think we can’t ignore the fact Cal did embrace the darkness to defeat and kill someone and he did that willingly. In my opinion I think they are setting up Cal to potentially fall from Grace in a potential sequel, and I think that’s a natural progression of Cal. We see Jedi in the form of Dagan and Bode that good intentions and desire to do what’s necessary to protect your love ones or the things you desire leads to darkness. When call double tapped Bode I took that as him engaging embracing a inner darkness. Remember we had to embrace the darkside to overcome him during the fight and that can’t he ignored.

@derekbradley3763

Жыл бұрын

Exactly not to mention how cal manipulates the force hallucination dagan used against him to kill him using the dark side to stop bode was one thing then double tapping him seemed slightly excessive cal might not be yet but I do believe the seeds have be planted to make him a grey jedi especially since the story as a whole makes cal bode and dagan all parallels to each other desire for tannalor they all hate the empire all at one point where jedi and all have those they cared about and all where betrayed so it would make sense that cal much like bode and dagan did embrace his darkness but unlike them control it

@Roger-1999

Жыл бұрын

That would be quite interesting. It would be kinda reminiscent how in Rebels S3, Ezra felt helpless after all that went down on Malachor with Ahsoka who was thought to be dead, and Kanan loosing his sight to Maul; so he turned to the Sith Holocron for guidance on how ti become stronger and more powerful so that he could protect the members of the Ghost Crew whom he considered family. As he opened the Sith Holocron, and began to converse with the voice of an ancient Sith Lord that emanated from the Holocron, he said: “Show me how to become stronger, more powerful! I will never let my friends get hurt again.”

@GorillaHeck

Жыл бұрын

He double tapped Bode because Bode double tapped Cordova idk if it was deeper than that

@TheUncivilizedNation

Жыл бұрын

Remember the visions of him becoming an Inquisitor? We only know that it’s a possible future for him. What we don’t know is how far into this possible future we were looking into when we saw the Inquisitor Cal The vision Cal was fighting could very well have been from a time post Jedi Survivor where he fell to the Dark Side. The details have changed and there’s a beard now but the potential is there

@Roger-1999

Жыл бұрын

@@TheUncivilizedNation Now that you say that…… what if Cal is that random Inquisitor that was fighting Ahsoka in the trailer for the Ahsoka series… It’s a stretch ik lol but who knows 🤷‍♂️

Cal is basically the Disney version of Kyle Katarn to me, especially now with the beard and gun lol. A Jedi that follows the light side but is pretty lenient with following the Old Order’s rules A classic Legends Jedi before the Prequels

@cristianbernal8009

Жыл бұрын

Qui-gon Jin. Which is also prequels.

@vihurah9554

Жыл бұрын

To me the whole current jedi series feels like a spiritual successor to the old. Indiana Jones type jedi going on wild adventures uncovering ancient jedi stuff? Sounds familiar

@ohawwgeez3112

Жыл бұрын

You can actually wear Kyle Katarns clothing. You can buy that leather shoulder pad at Doma’s

@odinulveson9101

Жыл бұрын

Disneys Kyle? Not by a long shot! And I despise it. I would like to see Kyle, Cal, Luke ++form a new Jedi Order though. Closes similarity would be the dude from Rogue One. THE film pisney or Lucasfilmcould have introduced their version of Kyle Katarn. Maybe changed it so he stole PARTS of the Death star plans not all, like in Legends canon

@aaronbood1999

Жыл бұрын

I feel like cal is the modern day luke skywalker, except Disney not ruining him

You should pay attention to the meditation circle it turns red when he’s falling to the dark but after the end scene with cere it goes to a blueish grey

On the topic if the Jedi were wrong to forbid attachment/love; I find it interesting that Cal's attachment/relationship with his makeshift Mantis family is sort of what set off his rage when Bode betrayed them and Cere/Cordova died. On the opposite end, his attachment/love for Merrin is what pulled him back from the brink when he was about to kill Denvik, I honestly think that he would have fallen if she wasn't there to stop him. That being said I'm pretty sure if Bode killed Merrin Cal would also turn, I know I was ready to. Double edged sword I guess.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again; I believe that Star Wars fundamentally misunderstands human nature. There is a way to draw on the darker parts of yourself without relinquishing yourself to it, and trying to reject those darker parts of yourself is an impossible task that only makes things worse. Hate, anger, fear can be transformed into confidence, determination & caution. It can give you the wisdom and strength to find balance within yourself if you are guided properly. The Jedi order can be, and is wrong about many things.

Gonna be that guy: Gray Jedi don’t exist. You’re either Jedi, Sith or Force Adept with a lightsaber. Plo Koon had a force lightning but for light side

@anteprs7908

Жыл бұрын

in legends they existed

@RezistanceJedi

Жыл бұрын

Plo Koon uses force judgment

@shadw4701

Жыл бұрын

There's jedi who've used dark side abilities without going to the dark side entirely as well as characters who have used both without being jedi or sith, gray jedi. There's even dark jedi which are dark force users who aren't sith. Darth maul post clone wars is a good example. There's even light sith

@0din176

Жыл бұрын

​@@anteprs7908Legends isn't canon anymore so don't even try using that to explain something from current canon

@anteprs7908

Жыл бұрын

@@0din176 i am not explaining only saying that in legends grey jedi worked and are canon to a point

You deserve a million subs bro. Love your stuff and have for years 👍

Good arguments I think it’s hard to put a label on someone who is ascribing to the tenets of an order which no longer exists. Without its structure nobody can hold the line perfectly especially if you need attachments just to survive

No he's the ginger Jedi

@StephDLegend

Жыл бұрын

You’re right

Is very interesting that on the new game when you meditate on the animation of him sitting down he always says “there is only the force”

To be fare the narrative of Jedi Survivor is made to put Cal in the position Cere was in Fallen Order, as she was in struggle with the dark side while trying to mentore Cal and finally being able to overcome the darkness and truly became a paragon of the Jedi Order. And this is probably what Cal will face in the 3rd part of the saga, training Kata and fighting his darkness.

My sleep-deprived ass read this as ''Is Cal Kestis a G@y Jedi?''

Maybe when he's older. For now he's a ginger jedi.

New Jedi protagonist comes out. Their fans: "Is this a Gray Jedi?"

3:15 That low key sounds like the middle way in Buddhism. For those who don’t know Buddhism the middle way is described as “the avoidance of two extremes of practical life, namely, indulgence in sensual pleasures on the one hand and severe asceticism on the other”

i think one of two things will happen in the sequel to this game: 1) he will (somehow) learn vaapad and use his dark side to his advantage (idk how that would translate gameplay-wise) or 2) in some moment that cal is about to turn dark, force ghost cere will speak to him and he will understand how cere won her fight vs the dark side and he will follow in her footsteps (i could picture this happening in a fight with vader)

"Is cal kestis a grey jedi" "No this is patrick"

The quote from pirates of the Caribbean movie said by Geoffrey rush character, barbossa "the code is what you would call guidelines rather than actual rules"

There's only two kinds of grey jedi: the light siders that doesnt go full Jedi order And then there's Revan waltzing between light and dark side like it's Bastilla Shan's bedroom and a pile of dead mandos

@59hawks

Жыл бұрын

I immediately had a thought of revan just doing an electro swing dance as he brutally kills a bunch of mandos before sliding into bestila's bedroom. Thank you

3:24 Gotta admit though, Cal look great in Imperial officer's uniform. I used to picked Imperial officer as my character in MP lightsaber duel in Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast.

Chiss ships have what they call an electrostatic barrier which is weaker then a normal shield and I believe can stop the plasma spheres the chiss use as well as slowing down incoming objects though I can't remember if it has an effect against lasers

Cal doesnt strike anyone down out of hate or anger. Keeps going to the brink but always steps back. Still a jedi

What we learn from the Father, Son, and Daughter in Clone wars or Bendu in Rebels about the force is that it is light AND dark in balance that makes the complete Force. George’s view for the force has been outdated since legends tbh let alone the more recent canon.

Cal is just getting in touch with his inner Kratos

For a second I though I read “is Cal Kestis a gay Jedi.”

@JebBushHimself

Жыл бұрын

If he is, I bet he would be quite shameless

@CaptMeg

Жыл бұрын

same, way to get people to have a double take. lol.

Good one

In EA's mobile game star wars Galaxy of Heroes Cal is in the game and he is called a "Unaligned Force User" Along with Cere and Ashoka Tano (fulcrum)

According to Lucas there's no such thing as grey jedi. The whole "grey jedi" thing just seems like a video game power fantasy.

Me and my friends can't decide whether he's a Grey jedi or not so we constantly throw around the joke that he is a "free-lance jedi for hire".

I'm just glad they made him into something likeable and have a mindset with stuff that would happen in a normal person (emotion wise) instead of being a high and tight rules rules rules jedi type

Read that as "Is Cal Kestis a Gay Jedi" 💀 Merrin would not approve

@Red-sb8fj

Жыл бұрын

Same

#AskEck I am currently in the middle of rereading the Darth Bane Trilogy and noticed something odd, the Jedi and people of the Republic (even the higher ups) seem to believe that with the destruction of the Brotherhood of Darkness at Seventh Battle of Ruusan the Sith were permanently wiped out, why would they think that so soon after since this is a scenario they faced multiple times in the past.

#askeck what warships, asides from dreadnoughts, did the Mon Cal have during the clone wars? Lore ship Versus video request: Resurgent vs. Starhawk Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version) Keldabe vs. ISD II MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator Praetor vs. Subjugator EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III

When you embrace the darkened Cal gets the same moveset as Cere

Cal Kestis is what we thought Jedi in Luke's New Order would look like before the sequel trilogy.

I like Cal arc across the two games so far, he still hold the Jedi ways close his heart so to speak, but at the same time, I feel like he could be a Anakin type Jedi. He was only a kid basically when Order 66 was executed, he saw his master die right in front of him, he had to go into hiding like all Jedi that did, also seeing his mate on Bracca die to the Inquisitors and showing himself to be a Jedi, fighting on throughout the first game, and now in Survivor doing something more. Lost of so many of his friends, can either strengthen or destroy him. I want to see more on what they do with Cal in future installments of the Jedi Fallen Order series, more than any other character.

"We are about 11 days out from the release of Jedi Survivor" lol can tell this was recorded a few weeks ago, great video tho

I like to refer to the Geetslys video on this topic.

Could you do a video about if the Systems Alliance from Mass Effect could stop an invasion from the Galactic Empire from star wars. I thought it would be interesting to have 2 parts. 1. Systems alliance on its own vs the Empire 2. A united mass effect galaxy from the end of mass effect 3 vs the Empires invasion. I've always enjoyed your videos, and just wanted to be able to throw an idea out there everyone to enjoy

#AskEck what do you think of people referring to Anakin's saber as the Youngling Slayer often with a number varying from 3000 to 9000

Cals dark side super is awesome after respawn finishes the jedi trilogy i would like to see them do a sith game set in the old republic so they can really go all out with the power fantasy but still keep the souls like gameplay that makes the two jedi games so satisfying to play.

Haven't watched the vid as I'm still trying to avoid spoilers for a future play through.. but the concept of the grey jedi has always bugged me. The whole good and bad and the in-between. Kyle Katarn Welded lightning and choke powers throughout the games jedi Knight and I never doubted his goodness... He was just a little less devote than the jedi of old.. he was a product of the new republic having survived the empire! Starkiller also welded force powers that were inherently dark but I don't think anyone doubted he had the good intentions of a jedi, he was just naive and manipulated..

You know cal would be a great route towards fret Jedi in the cinematic universe

Cal is a bad Light side Jedi, but if we’re talking about “grey,” his emotions and attachment with Merrin can probably color him a shade darker than most jedi would prefer, though still firmly in the light

I feel the best example of a grey jedi or grey would be Galen marek. To hell with cannon he was AWESOME.

A new term introduced by the high Republic is a wayseeker. A jedi who ever indefinitely or just for a period of time decides to operate indipendendently from the jedi order like supporting a side in a civil war when the jedi and the Republic cannot or will not get involved or just to be able to better follow the will of the force. This to me perfectly describes Jedi like ahsoka or qui-gon, they are still jedi but decided that they can better follow the will of the force apart from the direction of the jedi Council.

See I feel this idea of tapping into emotions when fighting is the essence of a gray jedi, they don't embrace the dark side, but it still flows through them, not to mention the willingness to kill, I feel that makes Cal a gray jedi. I honestly even feel mace windu could be nearing the idea of a gray jedi as he let's the Darkseid flow through him even if he doesn't use it

@reniorjd

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what a grey should be but most people dismiss the concept as wish fulfillment.

@Reach42a

Жыл бұрын

That is not what is happening, Cal is struggling with the dark side, not harnessing it. They’re just setting up his internal struggle for the third game. The dark side in game is portrayed exactly how Yoda describes it. It’s easier, it’s quicker, and it’s tempting to use. He isn’t letting it flow, he’s struggling not to drown.

@insomnia2904

Жыл бұрын

@@Reach42a I understand what you mean to a point, but I argue even when cal is 'giving in' we see use of his emotions, but we don't see him force choking or anything, we see him using abilities someone like mace windu uses. I think cal could spiral into the Darkseid fully or he could master this sort of in between that again is very close to Mace Windu and his actions

Hes definitely with the lightside but struggles with his emotions. I always give him a Orange saber, a mix of yellow, protection and red, passion.

In cannon he's blue, personally I think he should have a purple saber, considering he uses the dark side only when he has too but still dedicates his life to the light side

#AskEck Have you ever done a Star Wars Rebels Tapcaf Transmissions episode? If not would you consider doing an episode per season in preparation for Ahsoka.

I'm under the opinion that the grey jedi stuff is pure wish fulfilment. People who want their OC to be a good guy yet have the cool sith powers (like my KOTOR character) and doest stack up to established lore. I feel that the force pushes you to one side or another and that any jedi using sith powers is on the path to the darkside and any sith doing good is pushed toward becoming a better person. Ad for the "not doing what the council says" stuff, I feel like that doesn't make you a grey jedi, it just makes you not a jedi. Not a sith, but a light side forc3 user not affiliated with the jedi mysticism and dogma.

@SabreKen

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I personally blame the West End Games Star Wars TRPG for some of that wish fulfillment. In that system the consequence for falling to the dark side is you hand your character over to the game master and your character becomes an NPC, which is basically character death

@flamesofchaos13

Жыл бұрын

Nah if they're disagreeing with the Council they're a Dissident or Unorthodox Jedi. Then they'd be a Rogue Jedi if they left. They're still Jedi because they still follow the various Codes and Ideals and Teachings they just don't agree with the dogmatic strict interpretations and actions of the leadership.

@lancethedecayedguardian2719

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that not listening to the Council makes you not a Jedi, after all the Jedi Council always had flawed ideologies on the Force just look at Qui-Gon. He is a shining example of what the Jedi should be yet he did not want anything to do with it. Some other great examples include Kyle Katarn and Legends Luke, both of which have gone rather lenient on the rules of the Jedi yet are considered Jedi nonetheless

@Pantherblack

Жыл бұрын

"Wish fulfillment" explains the "Gray" perfectly. Either definition is rooted in a desire to have some edge. Frankly any Jedi that doesn't follow the orthodoxy but still hews to the spirit of the code it still very much a Jedi, probably a more honest depiction than the rule-followers.

@flamesofchaos13

Жыл бұрын

@@Pantherblack We'll see which interpretation is more honest when the Dawn of the Jedi film comes. Looks like even in Disney canon the Jedi start as using both the Light and Dark Sides but given that can't work something will go wrong somewhere. Then we'll see what the first Light Sider interprets their purpose as.

sooo the intro thing still isnt back right well thats sad to see :/ edit: no why was it on the other video im confused

Thanks for spoiling two specific things in the footage without warnings. A certain boss and an intimate scene.

Just so you know,the chiss ships do in fact have shields, just worse shields called electrostatic barriers which block frequencies of spectrum lasers.

Bro I didn’t know this would have spoilers

@liam1318

Жыл бұрын

Is bode a dark side user

I think because by the end of the game cal still uses the dark side with the super ability thing or whatever, since he still openly uses the dark side I think he would be considered a grey Jedi

I mean, there's a reason in the current canon the Story Group and co aren't fans of using "Grey Jedi", it's just a weird and confusing term, not to mention what makes you a Jedi is identifying with their Order or philosophy. Every Jedi struggles with the Dark Side too, you don't suddenly become a "Grey Jedi" if you force choke somebody one day.

@tjmcfadden5137

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think even before the Disney story group the officials were to big on the term as even George has never liked the idea of grey Jedi. It was just used more back then because more games were coming out which is where the idea can live and a lot of fans were very vocal about it.

@TyrannoNoddy

Жыл бұрын

@@tjmcfadden5137 yeah, like the only way i can see the term being useful is it being basically shorthand for "nonaligned force user not bound to the light or dark", like how everyone just used "jedi" for any old force user

@Tomwithnonumbers

Жыл бұрын

​​@@TyrannoNoddy I don't think it's possible to be a 'non-aligned force user not bound to like or dark'. The Force is _light_ and the dark is seductive. Either you're a force user who tried to stay in the light, or you're a force user who falls to the darkness

In the 'Star Wars Legends' comic book, Force Healing, a lightside technique, can only be learned after mastering Force Lightning, a darkside technique. As for your intentions ... your actions, and the outcome of those actions, matter more than your intentions. As the saying goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." It was the intention of the Jedi Council to ensure that Anakin didn't fall to the darkside by treating him as any other Jedi Padawan, even though they knew that he'd already formed attachments outside the Order (being too old to begin the training), and in the end it was their actions that alienated Anakin, leaving him susceptible to the machinations of Darth Sidious.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Ancient Sith and their knowledge, or lack thereof about the Star Forge! Ajunta Pall alludes quite heavily to the treasure of the Ancient Sith from his era to be the Star Forge, but I have yet to see this referenced anywhere else. I don't believe anyone other than the Rakatta, Revan, and Malak had anything to do with the Star Forge, or even had any knowledge whatsoever about its existence, and yet Pall seems to state otherwise and the Star Map is located within Naga Sadow's tomb, which couldn't have been a coincidence. Continuity error? Plot thread left unresolved? #askeck

As far as I am concerned, to be a gray Jedi, you must simple want something other than power. And hold to that. You don't want to conquer the galaxy. You don't want to ascend to second fiddle in doing that so that you can plan your attempt to become first fiddle. But you want something. And you will use The Force and training in its use, in your attempt to reach this. In a way, this means that Anakin/Darth Vader himself was in fact a so-called "Gray Jedi," albiet one who was swallowed by the turbulent darkness of his times and misguided by the hand of another. BUT He seemingly fell, and then redeemed himself, in the end and beginning, because of love. Love of his wife, and love of his son. A Gray Jedi is one who cares about something other than power, but refuses the ways of more "self-controlled" sects. There may be cases where Gray Jedi then joins one side or the other. There may also be cases where they never leave that side, the way Anakin left the darkness in his final moments. There are desires between control of self/nurturing the emotions of light of the classic Jedi, and the embrace of strong emotions/desire to control others that represents the darker aspects often associated with the Sith. It is when these desires are strong enough, that a Gray Jedi can remain... Gray.

For me a Gray Jedi is someone who balances the light and dark side of the force within themselves. I don't think Cal is one yet, because it's clear that he struggles with the presence of the dark within himself and fears it might over take him. But I believe cal will be able to embrace his passions and some of the dark side while staying mainly on the light. I believe him and Merrin are meant to be a ying and yang. She's a dark side user while Cal is on the light side. And both might embrace some of the other side within themselves.

@Kpengie

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That’s not how the dark side works. You can’t “embrace a little bit of the dark side” and tap into it consistently without being corrupted by it. As per George Lucas himself that is impossible.

The jedi rule against attachments feels like the prime directive. They only ever talk about the rule when they're breaking it

In star wars the old republic game it used to possible to be on the sith side and follow the compassionate or light side. I think that might be described as grey. Time and time again i have talked about how utopia can come through the sith way because the jedi dont allow divergence from the path. In the game you could also be a jedi and follow the dark side. Would that be grey?

it would take a special person to be a real grey jedi

i think since Cal was young when he lost his mentor he puts his own spin on the force/fighting styles and its just because he is basically a self taught jedi. I really wouldn't even call him a canon jedi because of his fighting style and using the force but more like the ancient jedi in the books and comics where they use both dark and light side of the force

…Me playing the game for a week Video :”hey, we are just a few weeks out from the release”

There are no more proper Jedi. He is simply Cal. Former Padawan and current badass.

Now that the order is gone, i think what it is to be a Jedi has changed or at least it can be.

I think he will be eventually. He's started down the path in Survivor. Let's see what happens.

Hey I was caught off guard by the spoiler, I could've been more careful but it's not that hard to note spoilers. No hard feelings but I would appreciate it :)

I'm inclined to think that Cal's arc in probably the next game will mirror Cere's in a way and we'll see him overcome his struggles with the darkside and hold his own against Vader, probably still die but probably inflict the greatest injury on Vader since Obi-Wan and till Luke, and much of that arc will probably revolve around him teaching Kata as a new Jedi

@nameynamename3758

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him dying to vader would be such a lame anticlimactic way to end the character's story

I hope he gets a Lightwhip in the third game

What about calling cal a je'daii? for they used both light and dark but never let one side be in control just a thought.

He’s definitely a gray jedi and definitely a strong on

Well bringing Kyle katarn From July legend's actually a good point because yes you can learn it but I know during the jedi Academy game he actually tells you that it really is no evil power there's only The Choice in which you use it so he does encourage you to learn different abilities and even if you learn some dark's abilities like he said it's a power it's not the power that makes you good or evil as the choices you make with it so he also could be considered a Great jedi from philosophy point of viewAgain though I'm not sure if you consider him a fool Gray jedi where he walks both pass

The way I see it now (not 100% complete though) is that he’s basically seeing himself as not a Jedi at all any more

Which of these two fleets would win in a head to head match; the Phoenix Squadron in the Star Wars Rebels season two premiere, or the Mando fleet from Chapter 23? #askeck

Good video. I would like to say though that Cal is not a Gray Jedi and to me the gray Jedi concept isn’t exactly canon yet so that disproves that he is a gray Jedi.

@flamesofchaos13

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Yeah he's still a Light Sider just an Unorthodox Jedi pushed to the brink and having to endure an era where no Order exists where the old rules failed to prevent the current horrors and even arguably helped cause. One can't blame him for having such anger and fear and doubts and just wanting some kind of happiness with someone that reinforces his commitment to the Light (because True Love is actually something that leads to the Light the leadership was incorrect...Proven by the redemptions of Revan, Anakin and Ben because of Love).

@acev3521

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Common order L

Why did force ghost qui gon not seek out jedi survivors like cal or ahsoka

since the jedi series is suppose to be a trilogy what if he falls to the dark side in the last game, he temps the dark side in survivor with his super which kinda reminds me of the power trip aspect of the force unleashed, so what if it goes further and him tapping into the dark side makes him fall and he becomes the final boss of the last game. like since merin was trying to keep him on the light side if she dies then that might make him fall. we’ve seen in both games through dagen and talon a jedi falling because of either obsession or greed for power, what if we get to see a more in depth view of it from the third angle where attachment and love is what causes a slip to the dark side

Isn't that in the new Star Wars law, they seem to be open in rejecting the old ways. This is considering that the rigidness of the Jedi were the causes of their downfall.

I feel like the rules like the "no attachments" one are the because Jedi were not selective enough with who or how they trained. Kanan was in love with Hera and even though he has shown some unsavory behavior because of that he never got seduced by the dark side (even when it seemed like he is about to lose her). Falling for the darkness is a character flaw like when some people have anger issues and because there were thousands of Jedi, they needed to slap an "one-size-fits-all" policy on everyone.

possible hot take: Cal is the new Kyle Katarn in the next game he is going to probably going to stop useing the force all together at least in the beginning due to fear he will use the dark side again

Is this spoiler free?

People mistake gray Jedi with a Jedi who use dark side powers when in reality it means it’s a Jedi who strays from the normal Jedi norms but they are not sith

If u think about it, a jedi with no master and no dogma telling him what to do will eventually incorporate his dark side with his light side.

I misread the video title.

Not really, but he’s certainly heading there

Would still be cool to see him be the founder of the grey Jedi order

U could sorta classify Luke Skywalker as a Grey Jedi; as in post-Return of the Jedi

I kind of thought every jedi is supposed to have visited his dark side of the force at some point to understand it in them and then make their choice, i guess, kind of like this life, thats our gift too, choice....... to do good or evil with any energy or matter you entangle with...