The Irish Potato Famine ranks as one of Europe's worst agricultural disasters--scattering a people to the winds. bit.ly/EHPatreon

@kikobobcat725

5 жыл бұрын

Extra Credits God save ireland

@imran.k5681

5 жыл бұрын

I love potatoes too

@prajwalghogare6055

5 жыл бұрын

Hey bros and siss make video about Bengal Famine. . Btw love from India .

@JonManProductions

5 жыл бұрын

DID I SEE A MODERN GERMAN FLAG?!

@elhombredeoro955

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Extra Credits please do a video for Bengal famine. I hear it on every video related to Churchill.

During the height of the famine, the Choctaw Nation, Native American Indians sent $170 to Irish famine victims to try and help. We still remember this generous gift over 170 years later. There's a statue in Cork and Ireland sponsors Choctaw students to come over and study in Universities here. The Choctaws are a great bunch of lads

@CultofThings

5 жыл бұрын

I've never heard of the Choctaw Indians.

@casillus

5 жыл бұрын

@@CultofThings I believe they are mainly around Oklahoma or around that area.

@striker8961

5 жыл бұрын

they were some lads for doing that i hope the Irish that went to america were good to those bois

@CultofThings

5 жыл бұрын

@@casillus I looked them up. I'm sad now.

@lochness96

5 жыл бұрын

@@striker8961 Some lads that's for sure, but did they know how to play big ball like? Or swing the ol hurley?

When the Ottoman Sultan tried to help the Irish, while the British tried to stop them. The Ottomans sent aid secretly to avoid angering the british queen. There is still a crescent and a star incorporated in some Irish cities' port in their honour.

@kamanashiskar9203

3 жыл бұрын

By 1837, the Ottoman Empire was known as the Sick Man of Europe. So the Ottomans weren't really a problem for the Brits in 1837.

@mehmetsancargurci8142

3 жыл бұрын

@@kamanashiskar9203 They were defeated in Gallipoli to the country they described as sick man.

@corvus2512

3 жыл бұрын

Lets ask the Armenians how charitable the Ottomans were... oh wait we cant because most of them were killed in a genocide. Im not british btw so this isn't me sticking up for the british, just pointing out the hypocrisy of claiming the ottomans gave a damn about human life.

@antimidas345

3 жыл бұрын

@@corvus2512 dude that was the Ottoman Empire after the dethronement of sultan abdulhamid, when nationalists took over. Before that the ottomans weren’t that brutal to cause a genocide. Jeez please consider your facts

@peterdenov4898

3 жыл бұрын

@@kamarulrahman8394 tell me one good thing the ottomans did for the Balkans, just one, I can wait.

Teacher:What was the name of the parasite that caused the Irish Potato famine? Me:The British Teacher: A+++++++++

@shambosaha9727

3 жыл бұрын

@Ponniah Uthayakumar How is that even remotely relevant

@mrreyes5004

3 жыл бұрын

Plot Twist: The teacher is Irish.

@possesedcake5422

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrreyes5004 obviously

@oldaccount1254

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.KokoPudgeFudge weren’t we all?

@ematic0054

3 жыл бұрын

*F*

As a native New Yorker, I appreciate the depressingly accurate shout out.

@danielwatson6529

2 жыл бұрын

Ah cool! Which tribe?

@RustyRedRhombus

10 ай бұрын

@@danielwatson6529 The Fugawi. A nomadic tribe. they'd wander around, get lost and say "Where the Fugawi."

The Choctaw tribe in the U.S. donated about 170 dollars to the famine relief at the time. It was a huge amount for a people that were barely over their own forced displacement, the Trail of Tears, at the time. There is a sculpture in Cork to mark the generosity of the Choctaw people.

@Theo_Caro

5 жыл бұрын

You're the second person I've seen mention this. That's really amazing.

@whoes_joe

5 жыл бұрын

Midleton Co.Cork*

@kaleeshsynth9994

9 ай бұрын

Amazing

@hellotherefoye7778

3 ай бұрын

One of the many native American tribes,and in my opinion, the best

Fungus caused the blight, England caused the famine

@brendangarvin7787

5 жыл бұрын

Fungus

@redwanhasan1721

5 жыл бұрын

England caused lot of famines across the globe still they think they are the most civilized nation. What an irony.

@placeholder8768

5 жыл бұрын

Redwan Hasan mate, you’ve clearly been indoctrinated if you think we all think we’re still superior, or you’re in the 1800s. We caused little famines, but the ones that were caused were horrible. Also, every nation has done crimes and genocides, America with native Americans, Britain with native Africans and Indians, France with North Africans and Haitians, and Russia with Ukrainians and many others.

@AnuragKumar-ik1kc

5 жыл бұрын

@@placeholder8768 lmao a lot of them have apologized for their actions. Britain still hasn't apologized to India for 200 years of exploitation

@ironcaptainurrienpelles6964

5 жыл бұрын

Bobert Baratheon the tea is great today

The greatest villain for the longest time in history goes to the British.

@eggy6745

3 жыл бұрын

Idk the Roman's were around for a long time

@VenomousSpyro

3 жыл бұрын

I mean. Every major country in existence has done unspeakable things. The UK at it's worst is still better than many nations. Modern day China straight away comes to mind.

@AwakeWheel-fi9tm

3 жыл бұрын

VenomousSpyro as much as I hate the UK, I have to agree with you. China is by far much worse. Something that UK should be given props for is that they are one of the only US ally willing to aid with military support

@chriskopp1361

3 жыл бұрын

They set back entire continents how is China any worse? Edit: China is much worse than Britain with its genocidal actions and South sea aggression.

@pkhaloobonaccio9883

3 жыл бұрын

Britain literally sold cocaine to chinese for their goods. What joint did you smoke before commenting, pal?

When you realise India and Ireland have the same colour scheme and were both starved out by the British *Coincidence? I THINK NOT*

@makswel9874

3 жыл бұрын

What about Italy????😳😳😳

@Kingkillersstripe632

3 жыл бұрын

And yet these two weasel nations are two faced one minute they kiss up to the English by turning them against Asians,Arabs,Africans and also Muslims and at the sane time hating them but still migrating to the country what a bunch of plonkers

@diyaroy5059

3 жыл бұрын

@@makswel9874 You tell me 😂😂

@AmanKumarPadhy

2 жыл бұрын

Its politics man. Plus its the politics that keeps the hate weirdly in control imo. Otherwise a lot of people arent happy that they were colonized but we are infortunately too poor to care.

@AmanKumarPadhy

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately*

Potatoes naturally contain the overwhelming majority of vitamins and minerals humans need, so potato diets allowed people to live healthier and longer (and this was before proper food/nutrition science). It was also a "wonder crop" in China, because it could grow easily in areas where other crops would fail. The spud was responsible for doubling the world's population within a century.

@watcherzero5256

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it was something you could survive off in a mono-diet similar to wheat (though the high starch of potatoes would be problematic to health in the long term). Same thing happened in Japan where the farmers grew rice to sell (as it was virtually the countries currency) and grew Millet for their own sustenance which if solely eaten without supplementing the diet would cause them to go blind. In Ireland however you could argue the population came to overrely on it. in the 1500's the population of Ireland was 1m and they had issues with not enough arable land due to the poor soil conditions (this was before the marshes were drained and most of the peat was harvested for fuel), by 1840 the population had increased to 8m relying on the fact that you could grow enough potatoes in half an acre to sustain an adult for a year and potatoes grew well in the damp soil. Ireland experienced the same problems with overpopulation that India and Bangladesh would experience in the 20th century and North Africa and North Korea would experience in the latter half of the 20th century/21st century,

@metametang7628

5 жыл бұрын

And world war 1 was assisted by a sandwich. The wonders of food.

@idiotically-everything

2 ай бұрын

Potatoes are amazing. I grow them on my balcony to save on food costs

I'd like to point out a minor error in this video. The organism responsible for causing the blight, Phytophthora infestans, is an oomycete, not a fungus. The two are similar in both morphology and lifestyle, but are completely unrelated genetically. Fungi belong to the kingdom fungi, while oomycetes belong to the kingdom chromista. Mixing these two up is like confusing a bat and a bird: they look sort of similar and they do a lot of the same things in the environment, but they aren't related to each other at all. I realize some may see this comment as pedantic, but it is an important difference.

@decus9544

5 жыл бұрын

Scientific knowledge is never pedantic. Thank you.

@Overhazard

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I looked it up. Apparently, the organism that causes the blight was thought to be a fungus until very recently, when it was discovered to be more closely related to algae than fungi. So recent that I can understand where Extra History might have gotten it wrong if the historical documents used to make the research were before that reclassification. Also odd that I had never heard of Chromista until now, as looking it up, it had existed and was accepted when I was in high school. We were taught five kingdoms--Bacteria, Protista, Fungi, Animalia, and Plantae, with algae put into Protista--but later on, we were taught about Archaea as one more kingdom. No mention of Chromista at all, but it was still enough for me to get a 5 in my AP Biology test.

@cakes4494

5 жыл бұрын

And a slight point out to for the video the pronouncation of Ireland is way off it's more like areland.

@idk-ow1gt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that doing a test on this tommorow

@floatippity

Жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

england: starves irish irish: revolts england: why are the irish so mean :((((

@freeplex589

2 жыл бұрын

Stop talking rubbish

@ihonestlydontcare1158

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@iridiumhamster3924

2 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo

@iridiumhamster3924

2 жыл бұрын

@@freeplex589 What do you mean

@kitdoesstufflmao

2 жыл бұрын

Irish: are literally fighting for their lives, drowning in the ocean because of coffin ships and are getting turned away at ports because they speak Irish and not English English: you didn't pay your really high rent so you're out of your house

"Oh, hi NYC! I didn't see you in this analogy." Oh shit, shots fired! *Wait, it's NYC. They're used to it.*

"The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people." - Sir Charles Trevelyan, Assistant Secretary to HM Treasury during the Irish Famine Honestly, this quote must sufficiently demonstrates how little the British Government cared about Ireland.

@abloogywoogywoo

5 жыл бұрын

The British Government has NEVER cared about the rest of the UK. They've only ever cared about their own monetary interests and pursuit of further wealth. Everyone outside London can go to hell for all they care. Brexit highlights this problem further. Same could be said for many other countries too

@TheJK300000

5 жыл бұрын

Actually historians have said that the response to the situation by the British was good at least in the beginning (look up F. S. L. Lyons book Ireland since the famine) under Prime minister Robert peel whom at least tried to help the Irish with policy (mainly trying to repeal the corn laws) he even brought maize and cornmeal from america in secret to help but a combination Whigs, Radicals, Irish Repealers, and protectionist Conservatives formed an opposition against his policy's and forced his resignation as prime minister in 1846 just before the worst of the famine hit. The new Whig-liberal (yes they were called liberals) administration, influenced by the doctrine of laissez-faire (trade without intervention) believed that the market would provide for Ireland (which it didn't) removed all of robert peels policy's including food and relief efforts, this was mainly due to Sir Charles Trevelyan whom as assistant secretary held sway over most of the leading members of Parliament he later realized the error of using free trade in an emergency and prompted a scrabble to put in place similar though still unimaginably worse policy's to those Peel put forward

@matthewmannion4227

5 жыл бұрын

Was this Trevelyan the same as the one with the corn?

@kevindowling157

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJK300000 you used whom wrong so may times. It's primarily used with prepositions, for example: "in whom I have placed my trust"

This was a genocide. Irish langauge and tradition culture are still struggling to this very day.

@MGustave

5 жыл бұрын

Genocide implies an explicit intent to destroy a race or group of people. That just doesnt apply here.

@xirtheplayz8684

5 жыл бұрын

irish isnt useful outside of school

@croakyengine3580

5 жыл бұрын

From some of the other comments it sure sounds like a genocide. The British government was helping to starve an entire race to death.

@aaronconlon3880

5 жыл бұрын

Harry Dibbs Charles Trevelyan, the British Secretary of the Treasury, was the man placed in charge of famine relief in Ireland.Trevelyan deliberately withheld almost all aid to the Irish population, blocked foreign nations from providing aid, increased use of the death penalty in Ireland and made deportation to penal colonies the primary punishment for nearly all minor crimes in Ireland. Trevelyan wrote that the reason he wanted as little help as possible to go to the Irish people was because "the judgement of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson for their lack of loyalty". Trevelyan also wrote that he believed that radically reducing the Irish population would make it easier for Britain to manage. Genocide is defined by the UN as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group".

@Loafed_Beans

5 жыл бұрын

@@xirtheplayz8684 Gee dude I wonder why

*The Troubles begin* British: *SURPRISED PIKACHU*

@tecnicstudios

2 жыл бұрын

Remember: Ulster loyalists started the troubles not the IRA.

@freeplex589

2 жыл бұрын

Not funny

@jimmyjohnson1870

2 ай бұрын

@@tecnicstudios Gotta love gerrymandering and first-past-the-post.

@tecnicstudios

2 ай бұрын

​@@jimmyjohnson1870 well that and petrol bombs...

@jimmyjohnson1870

2 ай бұрын

@@tecnicstudios Ah, I see.

As someone who opened a bag of potatoes only to find it completely rotten and filled with blight, I can only imagine what sort of deathly stench a whole field of plague ridden potatoes would would smell like. I still remember that stink.

“Prime...Minister...Peel...” Why are you emphasizing his name? Am I supposed to know who that is? Oh, you’re doing a potato pun.

@aaron9042

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@_am_i_ell_

4 жыл бұрын

BigBadSeed no sir Robert peel created the peelers (police force)

*Great Britain:* "Why did the Irish Rebel?"

@googlesucks7840

5 жыл бұрын

Why did the Irish invade Britain?

@Lenoh

5 жыл бұрын

It was Walpole.

@Crusader-7382

5 жыл бұрын

Me being of Irish decent I don’t know maybe because you forcefully invaded us

@ryanjapan3113

5 жыл бұрын

Crusader Conner territory

@raleighburner1589

5 жыл бұрын

Warren point a excellent military operation 1979

My great, great, great grandfather managed to raise a family during this time. I had no idea it was this bad.

@1ZeroGamingX

2 ай бұрын

Mine too

The blight was responsible for the death of potatoes, while the british was responsible for the death of humans. Just like the famines in India in practically the same decade, famine struck Ireland continued to export farm goods to England because all government positions and ministerial positions were colonial. And the system of Ireland was not designed to protect irish people. They were left to the mercy of the “invisible hand”

"Flanders lost 92 percent of potato" oh, God, what have I diddily-doodilly - done wrong?!

@turkeybeard2010

5 жыл бұрын

Stupid Flanders.

@kieranfitz

5 жыл бұрын

Олег Козлов gods punishment for being left handed.

@ms30x14

5 жыл бұрын

Shut up Flanders

@TheCimbrianBull

5 жыл бұрын

Flanders could turn to his Canadian neighborino in the oodly-doodly north!

@jorenlavaerts3970

5 жыл бұрын

Flanders is a part of belgium.. so wtf

I wonder if Otto Von Bismarck had a plan to counter this? After all *Bismarck Always Had a Plan*

@aerach7075

5 жыл бұрын

GOD DAMMIT

@thestrangecaseofharryhinde9473

5 жыл бұрын

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS

@gideonjones8088

5 жыл бұрын

Unless Walpole was behind all this. In that case it's a toss up.

@MrTVintro

5 жыл бұрын

Except for the Mongols, they are always the exception

@yuvalsela4482

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrTVintro nice going, ghengis! I bet that will last for a long time

Clone Propagation was a big part of this. You can grow a potato plant from a potato or even a slice of a potato and since it has fuel to get it going it will grow faster than a seedling will. The problem is that each plant is a clone of it's parent and since each potato plant can yield like twenty potatoes you can quickly fill a field with nothing but clones of the same, or dozens of fields. And if some microbe crops up which effects one one plant, all of them are vulnerable.

I'm so glad to see such a huge part of Irish history explored by your show! I really hope you do the 1916 Rising or other events eventually

The Irish population today is 4.8 million people. More than three MILLION people less than in the 1840s. While every country in the world (I think) has experienced population growth since the 1800s Ireland's population has declined. This is a directly caused by the famine and English colonialism of Ireland.

@fullirishham1015

5 жыл бұрын

due to the famine and how it was handled we had a declining population for the next century. it wasn't until something like the 60s that we got a growing population again. though to be completely honest, considering the aging population demographics elsewhere in Europe, perhaps some minuscule good came of it in the end.

@Packless1

5 жыл бұрын

...today there are more Irish abroad tha in Ireland itself...!

@fullirishham1015

5 жыл бұрын

@@Packless1 well wouldn't have a Diaspora if that wasn't the case

@OCinneide

5 жыл бұрын

@@fullirishham1015 Yeah it's gonna be good for the Irish economy as we will reap the benefits of being an advanced Western Country without the downside of over population and an ageing population.

@Packless1

5 жыл бұрын

@@fullirishham1015 ...indeed...! :-(

This video did a great job at describing the conditions imposed upon Ireland at the time. A few points left though: Some penal laws were still in place under different names. They also included limiting of the Irish language to the point it nearly died out. They were also expanded in new ways during the famine. The limited aid sent to Ireland was actually used as leverage to gain even more land. If someone wanted to avail of food aid they had to do one of two things: farmers had to give up their tiny strips of land and keep only 1/5 of an acre, essentially meaning after food aid was gone they would die. This was because of Malthusian economic thought at the time proclaimed this as just. This allowed the British to consolidate even more control over Ireland. The other option for urban working poor was work houses. They could not farm so they had to make use of the limited aid which required them to work in work houses. Families were separated, disease was rampant, the diet was terrible and many never left. Families were destroyed by this and was another way of making the Irish population dependent on the English government to suppress rebellion. The Ottomans organised 2000 tonnes of aid to be sent to Ireland, and although some saw this as a political move to anger the British, most of it was actually collected from the poor in the ottoman empire who had heard of the Irish plight and had sympathy for them. The British didn't allow the food to come into Ireland and threatened to sink their ships. The English purposely created conditions that would allow a famine to destroy Ireland. Given the land laws, potatoes were the only option. The English wanted to exterminate the Irish and take their land but wanted to make use of their labour too, so they struck the balance with these laws and conditions which in a way...kind of resembles an island wide gulag or concentration camp. Death as the end goal but making use of their labour in the meantime. The topic of the famine being a genocide is hotly debated today, however the UN definitions of genocide actually define the famine as a genocide. Because the English intentionally created the conditions for it to happen, it kind of is a genocide. After a smaller famine in the 1700s, they changed the laws further to worsen the effects of a future famine. This added with their apathetic response and literal rejection of outside aid means they exacerbated it too, taking advantage of a situation they could remedy, and using it as a genocidal tool. By definition of this UN convention, the famine was indeed a genocide for which the English government has not officially apologised for. There are appeals being issued in international courts to make them acknowledge it as a genocide and possibly even pay reparations. India are going through something similar in relation to their famine in the twentieth century.

@AChannelFrom2006

5 жыл бұрын

As someone who is from descendants of those who left Ireland during the potato famine I never knew about the Ottoman aid before, but that is quite nice that they would have done that.

@mattheweades

5 жыл бұрын

What the aristocratic government at the time did to the Ireland is horrible, the only use I take is blaming people of Britain now, the government at that time was not elected, and would how done the same thing to the English working class, it's a shame the the past actions of a government the modern British people had nothing to do with and hated too, have lead to the tensions between the isles

@ThinkerYT

5 жыл бұрын

Hey man thanks for your comment. Very nice to read the additional info! Hope you have a nice day!

@CatManUtdFC

5 жыл бұрын

@@mattheweades I mean, the whole Brexit/Breaking the terms of the Good Friday agreement going on at the moment does strongly indicate that a large chunk of the UK's population still doesn't care about maintaining stability in Ireland despite their government's part in causing said instability.

@mattheweades

5 жыл бұрын

*issue not use

Narrator: The Irish potato Famine My brain: don’t say it Don’t say it Don’t say it Don’t say it Don’t say it Don’t say it Don’t say it Don’t say it Don’t say it Don’t say it. Me: It wasn’t a famine it was a mass genocide by the English government.

@raduavram8312

5 жыл бұрын

I would disagree. Genocide requires intent to wipe out a specific people. Did Britain deliberately introduce the blight to Ireland with the explicit purpose of killing all of them? No. Therefore not genocide. Mass murder and just generally a really horrible thing? Yes. Genocide? No.

@irishgamer8729

5 жыл бұрын

The government of England back then was as bad as the Nazis

@user-uq3um5nq7d

4 жыл бұрын

I mean he did say that the Scots held the farm lands too so :/ Either way it's just greed to be honest

@ajohara8664

4 жыл бұрын

Radu Avram, the english wanted the Irish gone, it’s clear to see by the practically non-existence of counter-famine plans by the english to help Ireland. They imported tons of barley, wheat, and maize, to England at gunpoint, while the people who produced this were starving, the irish weren’t completely dependent on potatoes, saying that we were was just an easy cover up for the english to try and get rid of the irish

The Irish famine wasn’t a famine - it was a genocide.

@user-qi5jw2hg1c

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@bingbongbongbing5932

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-qi5jw2hg1c lol?

@user-qi5jw2hg1c

4 жыл бұрын

@@bingbongbongbing5932 'lol' because the genocide business is not backed up or endorsed by a single reputable historian on the famine

@nettie9312

4 жыл бұрын

E They literally didn’t feed them in soup kitchens if they didn’t give up their irish name.

@user-qi5jw2hg1c

4 жыл бұрын

@@nettie9312 Source? That's a complete and unadulterated lie

Don't let starvation get in the way of good land profits.

@C_Bat

5 жыл бұрын

I mean...... who doesn't like a good starvation. Tasty, right? Except nothing goes to the mouth. Tasty tasty starvation.

@michellebottle6900

5 жыл бұрын

P E A K C A P I T A L I S M

@BothHands1

5 жыл бұрын

Mitchel Ravida P E A K

@bubblesbomb8949

5 жыл бұрын

Good job comrade. Now, it is time to devalue a currency and have many assassination attempts on our lives.

@michellebottle6900

5 жыл бұрын

@@BothHands1 I have stupid

uk: *SUPPRESSED IRISH PEOPLE* irish: *revolt and hate the uk* uk: *Why ThE iRiSh hAtE uS ?!?!?!?!?!*

@ciarancassidy7566

5 жыл бұрын

I think Irish English relations can be boiled down to the phrase "the Irish can't forget and the English can't remember".

@TheJK300000

5 жыл бұрын

@Joseph Perks oh no the English remember hell there several museums in Britain that display the famine as a major reason for Irish independence as well as one of the worst tragedy's in the history of Britain and Ireland.

@ciarancassidy7566

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheJK300000 I'd like to see what kind of coverage and what sort if slant the famine has in British schools. I don't mean to generalise but the majority of English people I have met have little to no understanding of the effects both of the famine and British rule in general on Ireland. I think the term "tragedy" is revealing. You don't call a genocide a tragedy. You call it a crime.

@campkira

5 жыл бұрын

Human love to think, they are better than other people.

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

5 жыл бұрын

No taxation without *POTATO*

My dads dad was baby on the boat from Ireland to newzealand. This is why im here and i feel very much thankful to be in such a lovely country and feel very connected with the people here that went through similar pressure from the British 😂

“While English farmers showed similar devastation” *shows Union Jack*

Literally in Ireland every year we learn about the Irish famine thank you for covering it!

@dewittbourchier7169

4 жыл бұрын

And mostly you learn lies and slander.

@freeplex589

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerrybrown7488 don’t hate the english

@hermanngoulhorn581

2 жыл бұрын

@@freeplex589 ah yeah, the poor ol brits don't hate anyone. Get a grip you nonce.

@timdadwagan

2 жыл бұрын

@@dewittbourchier7169 like the fact the British people took most of the remaining crops or that they tried to kill of catholic’s in Ireland because that’s not slander

@cygnusmir1627

Жыл бұрын

@@dewittbourchier7169 what lies?

Oliver Cromwell laws for Ireland "that sound like slavery with extra steps"

@JohnDoe-jn4bz

5 жыл бұрын

That's what the English saw all none English as. From Wales to Scotland.

@michaelc225

5 жыл бұрын

Oh they did actually use slavery to don't worry they sold Irish citizens into slavery

@younissaif4156

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelc225 I didn't know that the Irish were sold to slavery can you please tell me more about it

@michaeldepaor6844

5 жыл бұрын

@@younissaif4156 wasn't slavery but indetured servatude, around 30000 Irish people brought against their will to the Caribbean islands most notably Mont serrat

@joebrunton2682

5 жыл бұрын

@@younissaif4156 over 200,000 children were shipped off to the Caribbean. After their parents were murdered and their land stolen of course. They were sold into contracts of "indentured servitude" so in theory it wasn't slavery as they could apply for their freedom after X amount of years. However the contract was between the ship captain who brought them their and their new owners. There are plenty of recorded incidents of the Irish being refused their freedom in court as long as their owner extended their contract indefinitely. To summarise, like the op said it was slavery with a few extra steps.

2:17 Ehm, isn't Flanders part of Belgium? Besides that, you've used the flag of the province of North-Holland, not the one from the Netherlands.

@Espi0nage_Ninja

4 жыл бұрын

Comred1 Flanders was it’s own country/city state also you do know that flags change over time right ?

@Agate717

3 жыл бұрын

Espi0nageNinja no, at the time of the 1800s Flanders wasn’t an independent country but incorporated in Kingdom of Belgium

@carolusrex8488

3 жыл бұрын

@@Espi0nage_Ninja the flag of te netherlands was NEVER like that....

I'm an Irish tour guide working on a famine site and I have to say that this level of research is excellent!

9:06 They didn't dissappear, per-se. They were still being grown in Ireland, the Catholics just weren't allowed to eat it because it was owned by British landowners and had to be exported. The potato was the only crop that could produce enough yield on small Irish-owned plots to support a family, while other crops required larger plots of land that could only be owned by Protestants/British. So they were literally watching boatloads of food taken away while they starved to death. (Source: college Irish History course. I might still have the textbook somewhere...)

@FrozzenBeeiscrackedatFn

Жыл бұрын

They couldn't have potatoes cuz they mostly ate the potato seeds

@FrozzenBeeiscrackedatFn

Жыл бұрын

They couldn't have potatoes cuz they mostly ate the potato seeds

@hyzmarie

8 ай бұрын

@@FrozzenBeeiscrackedatFnpotato seeds are potatoes

@freebeerfordworkers

8 ай бұрын

You might try reading Alexis de Tocqueville's journey in Ireland 1837. A Catholic Bishop he said that many of the Protestant landlords were bankrupt and were being bought out by Catholics who were the majority of the farm produce merchants

As the saying goes "God brought the blight but the British brought the famine"

@googlesucks7840

5 жыл бұрын

God brought the church but Catholic priests brought paedophilia.

@antagonist7924

4 жыл бұрын

@@googlesucks7840 Ok dumbfuck

@jkkennedy9280

4 жыл бұрын

@Max Smith and so many protestants are, the royal family are inbred but people only try bring up travellers when that point gets risen, these things are in all communities you fool

@TSkippiestOfBoys

4 жыл бұрын

Google Sucks you mean the Greek.

@ibnbattuta7031

3 жыл бұрын

@@googlesucks7840 okay

British: How could the soviet union strave it's own people to death, man they ŜÚĈĈ so much.... *Also British:*

@comradekenobi6908

2 жыл бұрын

If they want for the world to recognise holodomor they also have to let the world recognise the Irish famine

@markbrook7468

2 жыл бұрын

@@comradekenobi6908 when has the uk ever tried stopping a country from recognising the Irish famine?

Error in the video: Flanders is (and was also back then) a region in Belgium, so to give statistics on both of them seperatly seems a little off in this context.

@appleslover

3 жыл бұрын

You mean southern Netherlands?

@joshuasitzema9920

3 ай бұрын

Flanders at the time was a majorly important trade center. Makes sense to list it

The last of us: potato edition.

@finntraynor3904

5 жыл бұрын

at least there was food in the last of us

@EastwoodFPS

4 жыл бұрын

@@finntraynor3904 And just blood sucking zombies.. Not the more terrifying blood sucking British government.

@vortexmilitant757

3 жыл бұрын

aged weirdly

@Adamkww

3 жыл бұрын

Partato

@Gadget-Walkmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@vortexmilitant757 still accurate.

Ireland got hammered by the potato blight because potatoes are basically magic and they were the only viable strategy in a broken game. Guess god should have done some more balance testing before rolling that out?

@DragoniteSpam

5 жыл бұрын

See also their first order optimal strategy video I guess? kzread.info/dash/bejne/d52ovLSFpJWtY9o.html

@kikobobcat725

5 жыл бұрын

DragoniteSpam Potato O.P.

@InquisitorThomas

5 жыл бұрын

"God created the blight, England created the Famine."

@timothymclean

5 жыл бұрын

Potatoes were only broken as part of a combo that relied on livestock and whatnot that only existed in Eurasia-you know, plows and plowhorses and the like. I'm not surprised the bugs went unnoticed before they went live.

@TurboKingCandy

5 жыл бұрын

Probably why you need to focus on redundancies. It’s just expensive to prepare those redundancy so most players don’t invest in them, and then bitch about it when a plague event kills their only crop.

Both branches of my Irish family were still in Ireland during the blight, and weren't able to leave. They only were able to leave after. The trauma of food insecurity is still encoded in our DNA I swear. We either all panic about not having a surplus non-perishables, or just subconsciously horde things like ramen noodles.

@strawberri_.swxrlzz

8 ай бұрын

that sounds really awful, i’m really sorry

"Famine" There was plenty of food, the brits just kept taking the edible food

@kertchu

3 жыл бұрын

TheDimHall so a holodomor?

@irishbattletoster9265

3 жыл бұрын

YEAH

@sirjimgreen2275

3 жыл бұрын

Bollox!

@Doofnut040tv

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirjimgreen2275 Care to explain or are you just being the usual denying brit?

@joshuacondell1686

3 жыл бұрын

@@kertchu the holodomor comparison is false. Ukraine was an area that was plagued with famines repeatedly. But Britain deliberately set out to starve Ireland.

Cromwell was so bad that people actually wanted Royalty again.

@alexanderthegreat445

5 жыл бұрын

valcarni1 If it wasn’t for Royal underestimation of Cromwell as a general then Drogheda may not have happened.

@hypergraphic

5 жыл бұрын

True. An excellent movie about Cromwell is To Kill a King.

@cakes4494

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah my teacher says that Cromwell to us Irish was similar to Hitler to Jews. He came into towns and smashed women and childrens heads in with clubs on order rather then shooting with guns

@tutmosislll9063

5 жыл бұрын

Even as a German one of my favourite song says: "A curse upon you Oliver Cromwell You who raped our Motherland I hope you're rotting down in hell For the horrors that you send" (Young Ned of the hill by the Pogues")

@ThePkmage

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Cromwell was evil as could be, insane too with his puritan ideals, even my fellow British hate him

If brexit goes through are we going to get a northern Ireland border DLC for Papers Please

@blackacidgaming5672

5 жыл бұрын

lmao, Now i can play papers please without needing a PC, just a car to drive to the border!

@TJ5897

5 жыл бұрын

And at the end your desk gets bombed

@LeviForWaifu

5 жыл бұрын

Ireland is also an exception to Shengen. They joined Britain in saying it doesn't apply to them because they're an island. Jury is still out about Cyprus and Malta.

@MrSwj2009

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe Ireland needs to unite. And DUP can migrate their hatefulness to another land?

@ColonizerChan

5 жыл бұрын

Northern Ireland might just join the republic

Would love to see a series on the troubles in Northern Ireland. I've lived there all my life and still only have some knowledge. It's so so complex would love to see an outsiders narrative on it

@user-qi5jw2hg1c

4 жыл бұрын

@@Espi0nage_Ninja What are you on about

@badowskikarol4200

3 жыл бұрын

@@Espi0nage_Ninja there still live many Irish Catholics there. mainly in South Western part of Ulster, so Britain could cede the part full of catholics to Ireland to solve the issue, or wait until pro-unificationers win the whole of Ulster in a referendum (which might happen knowing how different parts of UK see Brexit)

@Dino-lemon265

3 жыл бұрын

@@Espi0nage_Ninja please no! neutrality please no just no not the TroUBLLeSsßs

I love this channel, it actually makes history fun for me☺️

This was so bad that even to today, the population of Ireland is still only around 6.5 million

@dam_ly

5 жыл бұрын

In the 2016 Census, Pop. 4.7 million

@juxyoh4659

5 жыл бұрын

Stryke Deltoro That’s just the republic. The population of the entire island is 6.5.

2:10 the flag for (North) Holland shown here wasn't a thing until 1958. Before this time the flag for Holland was the regular Dutch red-white-blue flag and if another flag were to be used it probably would've been the red lion of the county of Holland.

@freakyvisser

5 жыл бұрын

god that irritated me they failed utterly in the flag game this episode

@panzerpunisher7028

5 жыл бұрын

They at least could have used the correct flag. Also mentioning Belgium and Flanders separately is weird.

@coledevlin3984

5 жыл бұрын

And the fact that Germany wasn’t a country at the time of 1848 and would be using that particular flag for their country until well into the 20th century.

An excellent explanation, thank you. so much better than the other animated descriptions of the famine on youtube. Much more comprehensive.

I have watched every single one of y'all's videos at least three full times now and it has only ever gotten better

@Kyle_Schaff

4 жыл бұрын

*SpongeBucket* Which series is your favorite? I think mine is the one of Shaka Zulu

So, Prime Minister Peel...peeled the potatoes away from Ireland. God does have a sense of humor.

@alumbo

5 жыл бұрын

If only gallows humor. :)

@gideonjones8088

5 жыл бұрын

@@alumbo It's the best kind

@robertwalpole360

5 жыл бұрын

A dark sense of humour, but humour nonetheless.

@redkingrauri3769

5 жыл бұрын

Depache Mode's Blasphemous Rumours were right!

@spearhead7777

5 жыл бұрын

Not since a man named 'blunt' ran a 'hallow' sword company has there been a more amusing list of names related to the situation on the British Isle.

1:10 That's a good point. I've only ever heard of 19th century Irish "immigrants," but this isn't just emigration. They were refugees from famine and a repressive (arguably genocidal?) government.

@jetenginegaming431

5 жыл бұрын

77cicero77 it wasn’t arguably genocidal, it was cold blooded extermination

@mateusmorais7835

5 жыл бұрын

@hunter christensen i think the meant Ethnocide in the end.

@blackacidgaming5672

5 жыл бұрын

@hunter christensen I mean they continued to export grain and even stuff like carrots for horses out of ireland and too england.

@andrew_li

5 жыл бұрын

@hunter christensen Well technically they did. They deliberately created the conditions that would lead the famine to turn in a monster. Exporting food and dividing land just resulted in the population to depend on the English government which would repress a revolt. Death being the end goal, they just used their labour while they were at it. That's pretty close to genocide.

@voiceofraisin3778

5 жыл бұрын

@@blackacidgaming5672 The potato blight affected the poorest end of the labouring classes, the people who owned an absolute minimum of land. The British government tried to support those people by creating work schemes, using government money to pay for projects that provided wages to people forced off their lands except of course being a government scheme it went out of control and ended up with roads to nowhere being built just to provide jobs. They also imported cheap food and subsidised the export of people on the theory that if they couldnt get food to the people they could move the people to places where there jobs and food like America. the problem is that exporting food from the richer agricultural areas brings in cash, if you stopped exports you would destroy the economy of those areas creating unemployment, starvation and disaster to match the famine hit areas of Ireland unless the government went on a massive buying spree. And where do you think that food was going, Scotland was hit by the blight and was starving, food was going to the cities who were creating the industry and making money to pay for the food.

Your description of the rental system in famine Ireland is a precise description of the rental system in my country (NZ) today.

My Irish ancestors came to NY in the 1840s and I guess this is why. When I look at the census records for NYC for decades after, so many people are listed as being from Ireland.

"Irish men are more handsom" *looks at my boyfrIend* "ur damn right they are"

@babblingalong7689

4 жыл бұрын

That's sweet :love

@jacksonguillory8114

3 жыл бұрын

@@babblingalong7689 *grabs bug spray*

@basicallyarobloxian4533

3 жыл бұрын

*looks in mirror* How the hell did they know?

@greywolf187

3 жыл бұрын

I only found out our irish accent is sexy, Im gonna move to america now

@Kingkillersstripe632

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but English men are way more handsome then Irish men

My mum once asked my great granny about the famine, and she started crying and said she was too sad to tell her anything.

@diyaroy5059

3 жыл бұрын

🙏

You have to follow this up with a series about Cromwell and the New Model Army in Ireland.

0:37 Such a gentle and pleasant jingle :)

Next the 1916 Easter rising

@andrewlynch4126

5 жыл бұрын

Might as well do the war of independence for the 100 anniversary.

@seancrabbe3094

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah Ireland is the best country

@Lepper36

5 жыл бұрын

I'd rather the history of the Wild Geese of Ireland. After all, this Famine flooded the new American nations with Irish immigrants, many either fleeing to the US, or Latin American countries. Of course... around 1846, the US would inadvertently remind their Irish immigrants why they disliked the English, leading to one of the biggest desertions in US Army History.

@thewiig2170

5 жыл бұрын

Or the civil war, troubles,war of Independence,1798 rebellion,Gaelic revival, plantations and 1916 Easter Rising. Hello from the republic of ireland

@wizardpig02_81

5 жыл бұрын

yes!!!

This is why my family moved to America. Thanks for covering this!

@SeraphimRoad

5 жыл бұрын

or to East Prussia

@cpob2013

5 жыл бұрын

yeah and then the men got drafted to fight in the civil war equipped with shotguns and told to charge by officers that saw us as expendable while our families in the slums were harassed and beaten and prostituted. the army frequently "lost" pay in the mail figuring that they could just say the soldier died and sooner or later it would be true.

@diyaroy5059

3 жыл бұрын

@@cpob2013 So Sad to hear , I wonder it's the Irish Men US govt sent in Vietnam and Afghanistan cuz they never cared about Irish life .As you see majority of Soldiers in Vietnam war were Young and amateurs and died mercilessly . I wondered why would a strong country like USA send it's kids to get killed . ( Sorry My English is Bad )

@rajkaranvirk7525

10 ай бұрын

@@SeraphimRoad East Prussia? That's odd

Hey, the thing where they're using pawn shops every week for things they use every week? That's still a thing in America. I work at a pawn shop. Seriously, for some people it's still like that. I have pawned a jacket for someone who wanted money for one night in a room out of the cold. Not a complaint. I love these videos so much. Thanks for giving me something instructional to listen to.

If I had been taught with videos like this in school, I would have paid MUCH more attention. What a great way to present what would be a "not-so-interesting" class video!!

economists and governments prioritizing money over human lives? where have i heard of this before?

@greensteve9307

5 жыл бұрын

The USA?

@lolmeme69_

5 жыл бұрын

Everywhere.

@metametang7628

5 жыл бұрын

Taxing somebody half to death is a common courtesy.

5:18 This sounds like an apartheid state

@johnnybigbones4955

5 жыл бұрын

Well, yeah. It was.

@Mugdorna

5 жыл бұрын

To be blunt Northern Ireland was an 'apartheid state' until the late 20th century. And the current UK Govt is being propped up by a party that wants a return to that apartheid state.

@Mugdorna

5 жыл бұрын

@hunter christensen Look up what the DUP stand for. They opposed the Good Friday agreement and want a return to 30-40 years ago. As for Brexit, well my hearts bleeds for the UK. I hope it works out better than its currently looking for them. Im a bit confused by how leaving the EU can be classed as Fascist though.........

@Zack2G

5 жыл бұрын

@hunter christensen The DUP who do indeed prop up the UK government are hardcore scumbags. They and the communties they represented at the time fully opposed the Irish civil rights movement in Northern Ireland. Look up the conditions that Irish catholics were living under at the time and you'll see where he was coming from. It was systemic and deliberate descrimination.

@Litleblusmurph

5 жыл бұрын

The current British government is a coalition between the conservative 'Tory' party, and a northern Irish political party called the DUP, or democratic unionist party. Without the support of the DUP, Theresa May's government would collapse. The DUP is also well known in Ireland for being bigoted religious fundamentalists who continuously push exclusionary sectarian laws reminiscent of the penal laws

"the bacteria strain came from America.". America: Totally our bad!!!! Sorry!

@greywolf187

3 жыл бұрын

Im from Ireland. So I speak for everybody. We cool.

I loved your comparison to current living situations here in new york city, if we forget history it will repeat itself over and over and over.......

*London* “I have a plan” *Me* “uh oh”

The Earth: exists Englishman: *IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE*

Flanders is part of Belgium

@appleslover

3 жыл бұрын

No! As a Dutchman i can tell you its only southern Netherlands..

I love these videos so much. Thank you so much Extra History! Feel like I’ve been living under a rock for years! Hope y’all achieve more success. I love all the comments regarding why Brits are surprised when Irish hate them! Same regarding India.

*insert literally every potato joke related to Ireland here*

@danacoleman4007

5 жыл бұрын

Are there any?

@dr.vikyll7466

5 жыл бұрын

@@danacoleman4007 yeah all the jokes got a fungus and died.

@TheNovakv23

5 жыл бұрын

@@abcdef27669 ... That is some dark, dark, pitch-black humor right there. Nice.

@bubblesbomb8949

5 жыл бұрын

What is a potato fueled bomb called? A Spudow!

@Prich319

5 жыл бұрын

They come over here and they take all our land They chop of our heads and they boil them in oil Our children are leaving and we have no heads We drink and we sing and we drink and we die We have no heads, we have no heads They come over here and they chop off our legs They cut off our hands and put nails in our eyes O'Grady is dead and O'Hanrahan's gone We drink and we die and continue to drink O'Hanrahan, no O'Hanrahan They buried O'Neill down in Country Shillhame The poor children crying a fe dee din de Hin fle di din fle di din fle de din de In hey bibble bibble hey bibble bibble hey fle bibble hey O'Hanrahan, no O'Hanrahan We drink and we sing and we drink and we sing, hey! We drink and we drive and we puke and we drink, hey! We drink and we fight and we bleed and we cry, hey! We puke and we smoke and we drink and we die, hey!

It’s so cool that you guys are covering this major historical topic. My great-grandmother used to tell stories from her mother about being on the crowded ship.

TANK U SO MUCH THIS IS THE FIRST VID IVE SEEN ABOUT IRELAND ON KZread EVER. TY

It also happened a lot in Hong Kong with subdivided flats in industrial buildings

rip my hash browns

British Conservative: socialism causes starvation Irishmen:🤔🤔🤔

@AM-kf2zt

5 жыл бұрын

Irishman: No, you are confusing socialism with British colonial assholes. British conservative: That's preposterous! How can you justify that? The Irish, Africans, Indians and most of the world: They have both spread untold misery with a few rare moments of goodwill from other foreigners. They have a hard-on for wholesale repression. They both have had horrible track records but it's because the former is poorly implemented and the latter needs to have a rotten potato shoved up its a**hole.

@artofthepossible7329

5 жыл бұрын

Corruption and greed caused this one. Which can often be found in socialist countries.

@n.o.2769

5 жыл бұрын

@@artofthepossible7329 ahhhh, no. You have no knowledge of the famine and it shows. The British left the free market to solve the crisis. The term laissez-faire was the way many historians use to describe the British's policy in dealing with the Irish famine

@georgeamoran

5 жыл бұрын

@@n.o.2769 there is nothing laizze faire about the state totally repressing your social, political and economic life. Like yeah it wasn't socialism and it was completely the fault of British colonialism but to lay it at the feet of the free market is disingenuous.

@n.o.2769

5 жыл бұрын

@@AM-kf2zt sadly most of the world preferred socialism because the soviet Union was the once supporting their independence struggles

6:58 the farmer looks like Jacques snicket from a series of unfortunate events

Hi extra credits! I've been watching your videos for a long time now and enjoyed all of them including this one! I was just wondering if it would be possible to make an extra history episode on Lapu-lapu and the battle for Mactan in the Philippines. That would be cool. Cheers from the Philippines!

If each plot was less than 5 acres then should you now have: " As opposed to: "> 5 acres"

I always learn something knew with this series. I had known for years that Ireland was overly reliant on potatoes to feed their population and that the British government exasperated the problem to their own advantage. But I did not think about how the land laws created the reliance on potatoes which made the famine inevitable once the blight hit. Very well done as always.

Thank you for this Rory.

@mannychinchilla

3 жыл бұрын

Same 😂

Awesome informative Video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya 🙌🙏

Probably shouldn’t have clicked on this with food

@fullirishham1015

5 жыл бұрын

try watching the worst toilet in scotland scene from trainspotting while eating...

@PPandaPete

5 жыл бұрын

I am eating Potatoes

@fullirishham1015

5 жыл бұрын

@@PPandaPete Mashed? Baked? Jacket potatoes? hash browns? what kind man, what kind?!

@PPandaPete

5 жыл бұрын

@@fullirishham1015 they're kinda black brownish and soapy with a weird earthly smell. OMG I THINK I HAVE AIFIEHWBDJKD...

@bubblesbomb8949

5 жыл бұрын

@@fullirishham1015 potato flavored potatoes

Emigrate not immigrate. They're emigrating from Ireland to immigrate elsewhere.

@deckeroful

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe they were thinking of it from the American point of view, not sure tho.

@markydev

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Alpaca96

4 жыл бұрын

Well they are also immigrating to their new home, so they are both. Using migrant is easier though.

I hope there will be more videos about world history and Vietnam. Thank you team, every video is good

Man this is the best start of a video ever

Incredible that Ireland is such a great country today, all things considered. They are the country in western europe that had the deck stacked against them the most.

@FlyinBlaney

5 жыл бұрын

Besides Poland.

@Sundara229

5 жыл бұрын

@@FlyinBlaney *western europe

@FlyinBlaney

5 жыл бұрын

Sander169 oops

8:09 less than 5 acres is 5acres

@s_t_r_a_y_e_d

5 жыл бұрын

no.

@flaccidreflex5563

5 жыл бұрын

No it reall isnt x>5acres = more than 5 acres x

@randomguy-tg7ok

5 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@silverhusky7993

5 жыл бұрын

maybe

@yonokhanman654

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

wait, the name of the British Prime Minister at this time was "Peel"? That's both ironic and hilariously coincidental.

was actuallty studying this thx

Britain could control 1 third of the world, but they can't control an island of potatoes farmers

@duke9534

5 жыл бұрын

January 1801 until December 1922 we controlled them, compared to other colonies that wasnt that bad

@chadchederson8240

5 жыл бұрын

Thx for the facts mate. I'm a sucker for knowledge

@UltimateBass2

5 жыл бұрын

@@duke9534 so I suppose the early Norman invasions and land seizures just don't count? I'd say as a colonial training ground, Ireland had a rough ride. Who would you say had it worse and why?

Emigration was the right word.

@timothymclean

5 жыл бұрын

Eh...there are a bunch of "right words". Emigration, flight, and goin' bye-bye all have the same denotation, but each has a different connotation. Denotations are objective, but connotations are subjective, apt to change based on what context is accounted for and how one interprets it.

@blackacidgaming5672

5 жыл бұрын

exile is the right word

@Teb_

5 жыл бұрын

Forced out

@jamestown8398

5 жыл бұрын

"Refugee Crisis" seems like a good word for what happened.

@AnimeOtaku2

5 жыл бұрын

Luke Henderson the term you’re looking for is genocide.

Please do a series on the Bengal famine too..

continue the great work !!!!!!!!!

Hoo boy, It's never a good thing when a Cromwell is in charge of something...

Belgium and Flanders, what? By Belgium did they mean Wallonia?

@WouterDmusic

5 жыл бұрын

Ksi Orze was thinking the same. I’m sure he meant to say Wallonia and Flanders. Or maybe accidentally miscalculated

@WOLF36554

5 жыл бұрын

Flanders was a lot harder hit than the rest of the country. Because Flanders at the time had rather agricultural economy and Wallonia was a lot more industrialised .

this is so informative accurate and well done. thanks for making it. this is still a very controversial topic in northern ireland.