Ireland: Doesn't join the war The Allies: "UN membership is only for the winners. You get to be all alone" Spain: _"Just the two of us.."_

@someguy3766

2 жыл бұрын

We can make it if we try

@Pribumi1

2 жыл бұрын

Just the two of us...

@angusyang5917

2 жыл бұрын

Switzerland: Welcome to the club.

@MrTerrorist

2 жыл бұрын

You and I

@eastcorkcheeses6448

2 жыл бұрын

De Valera was half Spanish anyway so ... Almost a double ..

My friends grandfather was a prison guard were downed German pilots were held. None of the Germans tried to escape, they were safe in Ireland, treated well and even let out of prison to go to dances on Saturday. When a German officer asked him why they let them out he said "sure it's an island, where are you gonna go?" One German officer tried to encourage the others to make a break for it but the rest refused and reported him, saying they would rather stay prisoners in Ireland than return home and be sent to fight in Russia.

@joshuacarre06

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@gavind351

2 жыл бұрын

Much better than the Russian gulags

@imperialrebel1256

2 жыл бұрын

Where they allowed to stay in Ireland after the war?

@Ronocos

2 жыл бұрын

@@imperialrebel1256 I believe they were repatriated to Germany but some returned to Ireland to live when they could. I think it was a legal issue thing.

@federicomauri6208

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, such a cool story!

*Churchill:* "Join the war & we will give you Northern Ireland." *Ireland watches episodes of History Matters on KZread:* "... and so the British came up with an ingenious plan - they lied."

@alabamaal225

Жыл бұрын

Naw, I feel Churchill was probably sincere with the offer. Truth is, Churchill didn't give a whit about the Irish one way or the other. But as the video pointed out, transferring Northern Ireland to the Irish Republic wasn't something Churchill had the power to unilaterally do; it was a certainty there would be strong opposition in Parliament and Northern Ireland. Also, lip service to the contrary, I suspect the Irish government wasn't all that enthused at the prospect of having a bunch of malcontents suddenly incorporated into the country.

@conlaiarla

Жыл бұрын

@@alabamaal225 Churchill was seldom sincere about anything or anyone. He was Machiavellian in the extreme. He deliberately failed to pass on information regarding the presence of U boats and so the Lusitania was sacrificed so America would join the war . Horrible little alcoholic.

@CubeInspector

3 ай бұрын

​@@alabamaal225 northern Ireland belongs to the Irish not the English invaders

@user-fq6bj4cd5m

2 ай бұрын

the lie a disgusting but often used tactic

@XXXTENTAClON227

20 күн бұрын

@@CubeInspector that makes every Irish Catholic redundant, they’re just Norman pretenders stemming from Henry II of England In fact by your criteria the only true Irishmen are severely inbred

Churchill: How would you like a Northern Ireland: Ireland: You shouldn't, you wouldn't and you can't.

Me: huh why would he say no that seems like such a good offer. Also me but 5 seconds later: yeah no that’s fair

@eddiemoran8044

2 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same thought process

@Player1776.

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@Jotari

2 жыл бұрын

For some added context, De Valera heavily disagreed with the partition of Ireland and outright rebelled against the fledgling government over the issue, believing it was either all Ireland independence or nothing. So turning down the offer says a lot about how shrewd a politician he was (as does the mere fact that he came to rule a country after previously playing a role as a failed insurgent against it, in addition to somehow getting Ireland out of the war when a condition for their independence was to assist Britain in just such a scenario). Check out the speech he made just after the war in response to Churchill insulting him for being neutral.

@oliverlacota3112

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto, haha.

@fredericrike5974

2 жыл бұрын

@freneticness _ Anything but- you need to do a little more reading up on De Valera , the Troubles of 1914-16, read up on Churchill's long running knee jerk refusal to any proposal of an any sort of Independent Ireland, going back to before WW1. FR

Churchill didn't just "consider" invading Ireland, he openly threatened De Valera with it.

@tuurehu3392

2 жыл бұрын

@UC7UTnD3D99LP8kAU4sV-PFw hot take only among Brits

@Tattletale97

2 жыл бұрын

@UCcbVdLgz6uK_KLeAUiNLyhg Churchill is also the person who regularly go to ww2 front line just for the hell of it, so it is definitely not for the lack of guts.

@girlgarde

2 жыл бұрын

@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 Can't say I blame him. De Valera was an asshole who seemed to go out of his way to piss off the British during a time of war when the freedom of both of their nations were at stake.

@greaselfrompapasfootsoakings

2 жыл бұрын

@@girlgarde British have only themselves to blame for years of hostility prior. Neutrality was the correct choice on principle.

@rdrgtreer

2 жыл бұрын

@@girlgarde worth it

In 800 years Ireland had only 1 enemy who conquered its land, brought it starvation and genocide and left it with a legacy of religious hatred. What I find astonishing is anyone even asking why Ireland did not come to the rescue of its only enemy.

@billywalker9223

2 жыл бұрын

Damn! Hit that nail on the head!

@someoneelse.2252

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@artrandy

2 жыл бұрын

Because if the British had been invaded, then Ireland would have been next. You people didn't even have a f*rt of wind for an airforce, and the Nazis thought you as low as they thought gypsies. Mind you, what a brilliant scenario that would have made, lol, you spend 700 years hating the English, get partial independence from the Anglo-Saxons, and are then invaded a few years later by another Germanic race of people, who then claimed a thousand year Reich! Then you'd come to understand what the real meaning of genocide is, should any of you have survived the camps..........

@josephshields2922

2 жыл бұрын

@@artrandy Real meaning of genocide -Ireland's population went from 8 to 4 million under English Rule! Millions starved in famine while enough food was taken out of the country to feed it 5x over- The English invented the concentration camp in South Africa - take a look at the photos of the victims they look similiarly emaciated as the victims of Dachau! Why would a non imperialist country with no ambition to bomb its neighbors need an airforce

@artrandy

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephshields2922 Im not sure what to make of a reply with 3 lines of it crossed out, but I can confirm this: That the difference between British concentration camps and Nazi ones, is that the latter added that special touch of luxury, which was en suite showers........

Just a minor point; the bombings of Dublin were accidental. The German state actually apologised and gave money to those harmed by the blasts.

@Diamond-bd5ox

7 ай бұрын

What about the time the Irish sent firefighters to help in the aftermath of bombings in the North and Hitler bombed Dublin in retaliation

@causti9744

7 ай бұрын

I was thinking that when i heard it, as it wouldnt really make sense for germans to bomb Dublin with everything said before. aircraft navigation was so primitive at the time, they used maps and compass to get around and easily got lost at night or when weather was bad. Must be a crazy feeling to have bombed a city that you werent even supposed to bomb.

@edwardplackett7403

6 ай бұрын

Irish Nazis@@Diamond-bd5ox

@oliverr3408

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@Diamond-bd5oxThats not true, there was an accidental bombing of Dublin due to lack of navigation. Additionally Germany apologised profusely, fearing Irelands entry into the war as it would strengthen Britain.

@geoffreyriddell6651

6 ай бұрын

How could the Luftwaffe be so off course?

Some of the shots are so well set up and dripping with irony or humor that I have to pause the video. I think everyone wishes there could be more 10 minute videos but it’s great to see that you’re developing the shorter snappier format as best you can.

@chickenlord2757

2 жыл бұрын

My idea with the 10 minute format I he makes videos with topics that need more time added to the (eg League of Nations, Vietnam war etc...)

@willandersen3695

2 жыл бұрын

@@chickenlord2757 last I heard he had made a conscious decision not to make the ten minute videos anymore

@nadarfa9413

2 жыл бұрын

@@willandersen3695 can u elaborate?

@jacob4920

2 жыл бұрын

If I was a history teacher, I would try to begin each subject that I taught with one of these videos. They're short, they outline exactly the correct talking points of each subject, and they contain most of the facts that the majority of history exams would be asking the kids, anyway, so the videos are actually great study material.

@vacri54

2 жыл бұрын

@@nadarfa9413 He said it was due to youtube's seemingly random demonetisation. 10-minute videos are a lot of work, so if they get demonetised, he loses out financially quite a bit. If the shorter videos get demonetised, it's easier to take the hit since there are more of them.

Ireland had lots of four leaf clovers and also…. “What was Vietnam like after the Vietnam war?” would be a good future video idea.

@icecoldpolitics8890

2 жыл бұрын

Economic collapse

@chmeee9562

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this one. Just what happened afterwards when the N Vietnamese took over

@goldenwarh

2 жыл бұрын

real bad governing with China advisors, economy is suck, war with khmer rouge and china border conflict,…. things spiraling down until the “Renovate” policy start, accepting capitalism and foreign invests along with many government reform, currently, they’re doing fine

@Nathan-jh1ho

2 жыл бұрын

@@icecoldpolitics8890 shot all wealthy people, political opponent, intellectuals. Economy collapse, sides with USSR in the Sino-Soviet split, now enemy with China. Goes to war with Cambodia, which sided with China, the Kharm Rouge tried exporting their genocide to Vietnam and Vietnam wanted to created a "Indochina Union" led by themselves. Gets invaded by China for daring to topple the Khamr Rouge. Hyper-inflation, finds out socialism doesn't work, goes to capitalism. USSR collapse, becomes sort of friends with the US. Edit for Grammer

@harry258

2 жыл бұрын

It’s shamrocks, four leaf clovers aren’t an Irish thing

An American plane 'Taint a Bird landed in a small town in Cork on APRIL 7th, 1943. The crew was ‘detained' in the local hotel. Much partying and drinking took place. But their pet monkey which they brought with them died from alcohol poisoning. He was buried in the back garden of the hotel and their is a plaque to him. Guy Tice, the youngest of the crew members, made a return trip to the town in the mid-1990s.

@taintabird23

11 ай бұрын

I can confirm this story as true.

@lunalingo4461

3 ай бұрын

@@taintabird23 were u part of that crew?

@taintabird23

3 ай бұрын

@@lunalingo4461Yes, but I'm dead now as you can see from my avatar.

The sad thing for a lot of the Irish soldiers who fought in WW2 for Britain was that when they came home they weren't seen as heroes by most as they fought for Britain and they weren't praised or thanked by the British as they were part of the "cowardly Irish". Their heroes who fought for a war that wasn't theirs to fight and fought for no glory or fame but because they deemed it the morally correct thing to do. Just another reason I'm proud to be Irish and despite the shit DeValera gets he kept true to his word and deserves praise for how he managed Ireland throughout the war.

@winnienguyen4420

2 жыл бұрын

They were pretty cowardly for not declaring war on Germany after sinking their ships though. That to me is just ludicrous. Can't really imagine any other country allowing someone to just sink their ships and then send the perpetrators a letter of condolence after the dictator who started the whole war and killed millions of innocent people decided to shoot himself. Sounds pretty shameful to me.🤔

@finnl6887

2 жыл бұрын

@@winnienguyen4420 not really. That entire body of water was infested with submarines enforcing blockades on Britain. It was inevitable that Irish ships trading with Britain would be sunk. That's what happens when you ignore a blockage

@winnienguyen4420

2 жыл бұрын

@@finnl6887 sorry but I just can't get over the whole sending a letter of condolence to the Nazis after Hitler and his wife committed suicide. I just find that to be very odd. It would be like my country of Vietnam sending a letter of condolence to Japan after they executed Hideki Tojo or another Japanese war criminal.

@finnl6887

2 жыл бұрын

@@winnienguyen4420 I mean, if you consider Tojo himself a war criminal despite all evidence to the contrary simply because he was a Japanese figurehead I really doubt it's possible to make any headway clarifying something like why the Irish would've bothered with the letter

@stevekildare4053

2 жыл бұрын

@@winnienguyen4420 It was a condolences to the people of Germany for the hurt they were feeling at the time and as well as sympathy for the inevitable gang rape spree the Allies went on afterwards. If it puts it into context for you then your government sent condolences to Russia on the death of Stalin, despite his killing millions of people too.

These are the questions we need answering…even if we didn’t ask them.

@internationalrtg5602

2 жыл бұрын

I love the nigga that makes this channel

@calibvr

2 жыл бұрын

@@internationalrtg5602 ong

@connorgolden4

2 жыл бұрын

@@internationalrtg5602 Amen

@Delightfully_Bitchy

2 жыл бұрын

This is one of the few questions people probably asked.

@jmgmarcus808

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently, that Hitler guy could be a real jerk sometimes.

“A bit of a rough time” - The Blitz simplified.

@JakeandElwoodBlues

2 жыл бұрын

A very British description of the Blitz.

@jonbaxter2254

2 жыл бұрын

Stiff upper lip and all that, what what

@MrBannystar

2 жыл бұрын

It's you, AGAIN! I see you on videos everywhere! The YT algorithm really wants us to be together. Wanna get a pint together?

@sanhcman666

2 жыл бұрын

I always wondered why the mustache fool began to fight russia when uk was not defeated yet. Maybe some of the stories are true, he either wanted victories or he was cocaine addict. Im not absolving him of the horrible camps, just wandering of his strategic fails.

@manuelsaal9331

2 жыл бұрын

A bit of a RAF time

My grandad was Irish and fought in WWII because he felt he should. I think he really took to heart the "All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing" quote. I have the utmost respect for any man that takes a stand against evil. Far too many people today look the other way rather than help others.

@MrBurkeandr

Жыл бұрын

The black and tans shot at my grandfather who was just ploughing his fields so maybe there was a lot of evil happening and a lot of people ignoring it for hundreds of years !

@nuraby_9228

11 ай бұрын

"All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing" Too bad the genocidal raping pillaging Brits won't ever get a taste of the karma they so richly deserve.

@anna-gt2mu

10 ай бұрын

Qaqapera

@InfernosReaper

8 ай бұрын

The sad part is plenty of evil coming from Britain, which is why most Irish didn't sign up to fight

@freebeerfordworkers

8 ай бұрын

Don't be ridiculous thousands of them did they were crossing the border to sign up in such numbers the Irish government was worried it would affect their neutrality. Not only that the Irish permanently resident of Britain were conscripted along with everyone else. My father like many Irish was a valuable addition to the British labour force and by agreement he and others like him were not liable to conscription @@InfernosReaper

I don't have a whole lot of time for De Valera but: “the approaches which the Southern Irish ports and airfields could so easily have guarded were closed by hostile aircraft and U-boats. This was a deadly moment in our life…However with a restraint and poise with which history will find few parallels His Majesty’s government never laid a violent hand upon them...and we left the de Valera government to frolic with the Germans and later with the Japanese representatives to their heart’s content.” -- Winston Churchill May 13th 1945 “Mr Churchill makes it clear that, in certain circumstances, he would have violated our neutrality and that he would justify his action by Britain’s necessity,” “It seems strange to me that Mr Churchill does not see that this, if accepted, would mean that Britain’s necessity would become a moral code and that, when this necessity was sufficiently great, other people’s rights were not to count. “It is quite true that other great powers believe in this same code - in their own regard - and have behaved in accordance with it. That is precisely why we have the disastrous successions of wars - World War Number One and World War Number Two - and shall there be World War Number Three?” “It is, indeed, hard for the strong to be just to the weak. But acting justly always has its rewards. By resisting his temptation in this instance, Mr Churchill, instead of adding another horrid chapter to the already bloodstained record of relations between England and this country, has advanced the cause of international morality an important step.” "'Mr Churchill is proud of Britain's stand alone after France had fallen and before America entered the war. Could he not find in his heart the generosity to acknowledge that there is a small nation that stood alone, not for one year or two, but for several hundred years against aggression; that endured spoilations, famine, massacres, in endless succession; that was clubbed many times into insensibility, but that each time on returning to consciousness took up the fight anew; a small nation that could never be got to accept defeat and has never surrendered her soul." -- Eamon De Valera May 16th 1945

@EdMcF1

Жыл бұрын

From the man who signed a condolence book at the German Embassy a fortnight after the liberation of Bergen-Belsen.

@ahlads

Жыл бұрын

@@EdMcF1 big mistake for sure

@annoyingbstard9407

Жыл бұрын

So he signed the condolences book following Hitler’s death because…he didn’t like Churchill? Or maybe he was a nazi sympathiser?

@deancushen5822

Жыл бұрын

​@@EdMcF1 Great moment showing our neutral stance front and centre. We owe the world nothing.

@Minime163

Жыл бұрын

He starved 2million people in Indonesia to feed British troops that the moral code he had the same one Britain had for centuries lucky for them uncle Sam won the war for them. Plus dev wasn't long making short work of that speech of Mr Churchill's

Fun fact, the Irish Govt also established the Donegal Corridor, which allowed British planes to fly between N Ireland and the Atlantic by overflying a bit of Irish territory, thus avoiding a long journey around the north of the island. One plane that made use of this corridor was a Catalina seaplane that pinpointed the location of the Bismarck, causing the series of events that led to her destruction.

@biulaimh3097

2 жыл бұрын

Ireland was probably just doing it`s bit for the environment.

@joebrowne9217

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, i think it was called the Erne corridor after the river that flowed from Fermanagh. Im from quite near there.

@winnienguyen4420

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly what would the Irish have done had the British invaded their airspace? Just saying Britain was a far more powerful country.

@IceWolfLoki

2 жыл бұрын

@@winnienguyen4420 written a very polite letter.

@johndaugherty7465

2 жыл бұрын

@@IceWolfLoki - In Irish...

It's rather strange that the Soviet Union were so opposed to Ireland joining the UN when they didn't object to Sweden joining - a country that had sold Germany most of the steel and ball bearings they needed to invade the Soviet Union.

@phantomJK

2 жыл бұрын

my though, though with no research: The USSR probably believed they could influence Sweden since it was close to their new boarders and would be a important trade partner to the USSR, Ireland on the other hand was surrounded by "Allied" nations, and would be influenced by them. So Sweden would be an "unofficial" extra vote in the USSRs interests while Ireland would be an extra vote in 'Allies" interest. Therefor keeping Ireland out would indirectly strengthen the USSRs power projection.

@matso3856

2 жыл бұрын

Because Sweden was the only country who told them(through the britts) about operation Barbarosa which Sweden had managed to intercept plans for. Which of course Stalin didnt believe because of the Molotov pact with the germans.

@MrRushhour4

2 жыл бұрын

Probably because the Soviets feared Sweden joining NATO and siding with the west. Ireland on the other hand wouldnt really matter if it did. It gave little strategic value to the Soviets

@2doctoma

2 жыл бұрын

Another possible reason is that the Soviets may not have been sure whether to recognize the Irish government. The Irish Republican Army in the post-war era were the remnants of the original IRA that rejected a treaty with Britain to accept a partial Irish republic with limited freedom until long after the war, with the IRA groups that accepted the treaty becoming the army of the Irish republic. As the IRA did espionage for the Soviets (and indeed the Nazis at one shameful moment), it's possible the Soviets didn't want to damage relations with a potential revolutionary movement down the line. Sure enough, a great deal of weapons were obtained from the KGB by the Marxist 'Official Irish Republican Army' (which formed the main body of the IRA after the 'Provisional IRA' split in 1969, soon overtaking the Officials) in the early 70s before they went on ceasefire. It never came to anything, but there was a real chance of a Marxist armed revolt in Ireland in parts of the 20th century, even beating the Bolsheviks to the punch with James Connolly's openly socialist Irish Citizens Army taking part in the 1916 easter rising, which then prompted the war for independence.

@HondoTrailside

2 жыл бұрын

Did Sweden harbour Nazi terrorists like Otto Skorzeny post war? Realistically it could just be a vote counting exercise. Maybe they just figured that the Irish would always back the British, as they would expect their satellites to do. Another possibility is they were screwing with whomever was for it.

Don't forget that during the Home Rule crisis decades before, Churchill and Lloyd George tried to screw Dev so badly that he sent Michael Collins to sign the treaty to avoid the blame. Churchill would, and often did, say anything to get his way and everyone knew it

@danielashworth3244

11 ай бұрын

Good on him.

Wow. This was interesting and well done. Felt like you didn’t dumb it down too much but still kept it easy to understand.

Churchill: I’m gonna make you an offer you can’t refuse Ireland: you legally cannot fulfill the offer Churchill: And I took that personally

@mumflrpumble9107

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt Churchill was really planning on letting Ireland keep the north. Especially since he had a plan to invade if needed. The man probably anticipated some civil war to excuse Ulster's restoration. Even De Valera saw through that deal

@OffGridInvestor

2 жыл бұрын

If you understand ANYTHING of the ABSOLUTE BS Ireland had got from England for the last few hundred years... they're VERY lucky the Irish didn't side with Germany!!

@mumflrpumble9107

2 жыл бұрын

@@OffGridInvestor They practically did, they even sent their condolences after Hitler's death. Only reason they worked with the Allies at all was because if they allied the Nazis they'd get nearly instantly invaded

@uzaidgurjee4798

2 жыл бұрын

@@OffGridInvestor they pretty much did.

@gloin10

2 жыл бұрын

@@mumflrpumble9107 The Irish Free State NEVER sided with Hitler's Germany. The reality is that Ireland was neutral, and most of its actions benefitted the British, and more especially the USA, after the Americans entered the war.

A few things omitted here. Ireland had a war of a civil war following the war of independence from British rule. Both of these were fresh in peoples' minds, meaning neutrality had cross party support and wasn't only the preserve of de Valera.

@stephenwright8824

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't just the fact of the Civil War being fresh in people's minds, it was the damage to infrastructure, too, which was in a lot of cases conspicuous enough to give people flashbacks To that Civil War and the war against the British that preceded it.

@malachy1847

2 жыл бұрын

Treaty Ports weren't handed back until 1938 ...Churchill railed against the handover of same in his broadcasted interviews, calling Dev in same Mr...DEVIL...era

@valleyshrew

2 жыл бұрын

And more importantly, the IRA were deeply antisemitic and ideological allies of Hitler, who wanted him to kill the British and published poems saying so in their newsletters. The IRA gave aid to terrorist groups around the world such as Hezbollah, and are one of the most antisemitic and anti-west countries in Europe. If Americans only knew how much the Irish hate them, they would not HQ all their companies there.

@MrModorichie

2 жыл бұрын

This is a complicated issue that wouldn’t fit in a KZread comment section, but the IRA of 1940 where not the armed forces of Ireland.

@DCFelix67

2 жыл бұрын

And the fact that Britain still had control of the 6 Counties. Germany never invaded or stole anything from Ireland. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. German submariners came up on the west coast to get water and other supplies too. Churchill's talk about returning the 6 Counties was empty promises. He sent the Black and Tans in.

When Belfast was badly bombed in 1941 some Dublin firefighters were sent north to help out. Also, De Valera made a speech that the citizens of the North were "our people" (Irish) too. So it is possible that the bombing of Dublin was then done as a warning to not help the U.K. But the Germans didn't push that, not wanting to antagonize Irish-Americans.

@davidwilkins683

Жыл бұрын

The citizens of Northern Ireland were not "his people"! The Protestants there hated DeValera!

@kieranowner527

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwilkins683 Ireland is Ireland, lad. Despite any religiously drawn lines by the British. Most would defend the right of any DUP building in the north, like they would for any other Irish based political party. Problems in a north of a country will often drift south, so help is always needed.

@riof.7947

9 ай бұрын

@@davidwilkins683 You mean the Irish Unionists? They may not like him, but they were still irish, same island with the same name in its title.

Churchill: "Join us and we'll give you Northern Ireland" Ireland: "Do I look like fookin WW1 Italy to you?"

As an Irishman, kudos for using the term “Taoiseach” instead of PM!

@ilikecheese4518

2 жыл бұрын

why is that pronounced the way that is thats worse than french

@JJaqn05

2 жыл бұрын

It's the same thing. Ireland uses both English and Irish.

@dl5498

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilikecheese4518 It is an irish word...

@dl5498

2 жыл бұрын

Disgrace how we even need to congratulate people for calling the Taoiseach by its proper title

@seneca983

2 жыл бұрын

@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 "it's a phonetic language" I would like to nitpick that the *orthography* is phonemic. Calling the whole language that doesn't make sense.

A Side note: De Valera responded to Churchill's complaint about Ireland's neutrality after the war and said "Britain had fought Germany on its "own" as did Ireland fight britain"

@dewittbourchier7169

2 жыл бұрын

Yet more proof that De Valera was a POS

@rightonrightonrighton

2 жыл бұрын

Mic drop

@mertcanasfg7986

2 жыл бұрын

@@dewittbourchier7169 Disagree. He protected his peopleand when we look england's history with ireland it was a right choice.

@Eren03eren

2 жыл бұрын

@@mertcanasfg7986 Honestly. Nothing wrong with trying to keep your people away from war.

@alexweirdyoung

2 жыл бұрын

@@Eren03eren But there is in being a holocaust denier.

"He didn't trust a word that came out of Churchill's mouth"! Good call!

I am British and in schools we were only told that Churchill was great. Yes kind of, but we needed to be taught the full story. It's like Russia with Stalin Russians are only told of the good parts of Stalin. (Yes Churchill Is not as bad as Stalin but you get my point. Hopefully).

@rhuephus

2 жыл бұрын

yeah ... depending on what country you live in, you hear stories of the exact same historical happenings .. yet those stories never match the real facts. it's like the olde sayin "there are 3 sides to every story ::: Your side, My side ... and the true facts"

@DevonSt2008

2 жыл бұрын

That's a good way to put it.

@mbbsboi7248

26 күн бұрын

I am Bengali and I’d have a lot to tell you about Churchill xD

I suddenly remember that one Archer episode where he thought the Irish were part of the Axis powers cause he misunderstood what his mother said about her hating the Irish for not joining the Allies, and everyone repeatedly pointing out the Irish were neutral.

@janiwersen9417

2 жыл бұрын

The hilarious part is when archer gets asked at the beginning which is the murder? and everyone is from the axis except the Killer.

@VinceroAlpha

2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad there are other people of culture out there

1:31 Should be pointed out that German attacks against Ireland were cases of accidental mistaken identity. The aerial bombing was an incident where a German pilot made a navigational error and bombed Ireland, thinking he was over England. For that reason a giant sky facing IRL was placed along the coast to avoid later mishaps.

@evanray8413

2 жыл бұрын

The signs say ÉIRE

@Joker-yw9hl

2 жыл бұрын

Britain should have done that too, putting EIRE throughout the countryside

@stevekildare4053

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joker-yw9hl "Modern problems require modern solutions" 😂

@jimtaylor294

2 жыл бұрын

Germany used the same "zee whoops!" excuse when bombing London for the first time too. The key difference if the UK had a modern airforce... and S-Ireland... didn't. (I'm sure the Dubliners would have *loved* to have flattened a German city or two after being bombed... but cursing was all they could do)

@ARGhostie

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joker-yw9hl LMAO

As always, great job with uniforms and rifles! SVT-40 at 2:20.

@keelanmurphy9941

2 ай бұрын

Im more impressed that he got the Irish equivalent of the Home Guard's helmet right at 1:10. Now that's an obscure bit of equipment.

I love your channel keep up the great stuff

Ireland: The weather is wet. Britain: Isn't that always the case...

@jimtaylor294

2 жыл бұрын

The Welsh counties: We're the Wettest!

@danielcunningham648

2 жыл бұрын

similar weather

@jimtaylor294

2 жыл бұрын

@Ryan Granted: "Wetist" sounds more like an irrational fear of / hatred of water XD.

@hachwarwickshire1718

2 жыл бұрын

The weather data that was sent from Ireland was the data that set off the D Day invasion. South Western Ireland.

Saying "Irelands Taoiseach" instead of "Irelands prime minister" is a massive thumbs up from me! Good man yourself!

@caolangordon8167

2 жыл бұрын

Pronunciation was bang on as well

@attiepollard7847

2 жыл бұрын

That title is hard to say so we English speaking countries will just call them prime ministers

@SebastianPeitsch

2 жыл бұрын

Fun thing is I understood it even though I‘m German ☺️

@gene7887

2 жыл бұрын

@@attiepollard7847 Tee-shock not really that hard to say

@liamcosgrave2937

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

Like always. Great explanation

Informative. I forgot I myself asked this question years ago until I stumbled on to this video.

I think it's worth adding that most small European countries wanted to, and tried to remain neutral at the beginning of the war as most of their populations didn't want war. Ireland just happened to be geographically peripheral enough to be able to maintain its neutrality. Had it been invaded, it would have fought back just like the Dutch and Norwegians etc.

@jarlathquinn2628

2 жыл бұрын

Plus if Britain invaded they would be seeing a second war of independence with a country right beside them for weaponry and also there would be a sort of aces for Germany that wanted to fuck up the brits and any part of the war with them would be a thing where the British were being a bloodbath of the Irish troops doing a massive damage to them sort like with what happened to the nazis by the Soviets

@seanolaocha940

2 жыл бұрын

@@jarlathquinn2628 It would have been a propaganda disaster for Britain.

@jarlathquinn2628

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanolaocha940 yes thought of that after making the comment

@Xer405

2 жыл бұрын

They tried to remain neutral but when peace wasn't attainable the smaller nations tried to mobilize but were pressured not to by the "allies". Had ireland been connected to the mainland Britain would have gladly handed them ireland like Czechoslovakia, Poland, austria and the rest of the unfortunate nations.

@jimtaylor294

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xer405 False. The UK only declared war *because* Poland was invaded, and we had a defence pact with Poland... *because* Germany broke the 1938 treaty re' Czechoslovakia.

Shame there wasn't time in the video to talk about the hilarious joint Allied-Axis internment camp in the Curragh (yes as in one and only one camp) , which was were active combatants (fighter pilots, U-boat crews etc) from either side that ended up in Ireland were kept, would have been a fun animation for the video =D For reference by mid war Allied service personnel that landed in Ireland that were non active combatants were taken to the border and told walk across. There were 3 very VERY senior US generals that were traveling to Britain as passenger on a US Army Air Corp plane that force landed in the west of Ireland, there were considered non active combatants and so allowed to travel to Northern Ireland. The incidence was only declassified by the US in the mid 90s I believe.

@Jotari

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like great material for a comedy.

@legothug

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a great topic for a future video!

@Warriorking.1963

2 жыл бұрын

You ever read the book Guests of the State? It's all about this and is really excellent!

@pet_cow_5452

2 жыл бұрын

Class! Just Googled it! For anyone that is interested: In Ireland, the Second World War was euphemistically called “The Emergency”; the country was neutral, prisoners of war were “guests of the state”, and they were interned in very comfortable camp: the Curragh. When the Second World War broke out, Éamon de Valera, then taoiseach (prime minister) and later president of Ireland, reaffirmed the country’s neutrality. Irish ports and airspace were off limits to Axis and Allied forces. The government built No. 2 Internment Camp, also known as K-Lines Camp, on the east side of the Curragh army base in County Kildare, west of Dublin. Any Axis or Allied soldiers who landed in Ireland were interned there. Some of them were bomber pilots who mistook Ireland for Britain; some had to make emergency landings; and some were German aircraft or U-boat crews who landed in Ireland to escape the horrors of war. Around 2,000 Irish Republican Army members were also interned during the war, in No. 1 Internment Camp on the west side of the Curragh base. K-Lines was divided into two compounds separated by a fence topped with barbed wire. The 200 or so Germans were in G camp; the 40 British and Allied internees in B camp. Security was very tight to begin with, but procedures were gradually relaxed after a visit by German ambassador Eduard Hempel in 1940. Later, prisoners on both sides were allowed leave the camp if they gave their word, in writing, to return by an agreed time and not to take part in any activity connected with the war. Initially, parole was for three hours in the afternoons, but this was gradually extended to include two nights a week so that they could go to the races at the nearby Curragh racecourse, or to one of the three cinemas in the area. The prisoners were given a weekly allowance, which was billed to their respective governments. Some of them met local Irish women when they were on parole, married and settled in Ireland. Towards the end of 1943 most of the Allied prisoners were secretly released, and 20 German prisoners were allowed move to Dublin to enrol at university. The Curragh Camp now serves as a training centre for the Irish Defence Forces. The camp’s story during the Second World War was dramatised in the 1998 film The Brylcreem Boys, with Gabriel Byrne as camp commander. Ralf Sotschek (of goethe.de)

I love that your depiction of british pilots at 1:09 is Lord Flashheart!!

I love your content!!!

"Ignore the last 700 years and help!" Comedy gold right there 😂

@winnienguyen4420

2 жыл бұрын

It's funny but would Ireland been better off under the Nazis as opposed to the British?

@shadowrunner2510

2 жыл бұрын

@@winnienguyen4420 I doubt that Ireland would've taken to facist rule..

@winnienguyen4420

2 жыл бұрын

@@shadowrunner2510 likewise

@mito88

2 жыл бұрын

@@winnienguyen4420 nonsense

@warrenpuckett4203

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe because Kaiser Wilhelm and Queen Victoria were not the best of friends with the Irish. Maybe also because the Irish have good memories?

Ireland: *Doesn't join the war so didn't get to be in the UN because they didn't help. Turkey, who joined last minute and got credit despite not doing anything: *Pathetic*

@ordinaryperson-my7qr

2 жыл бұрын

C H A D

@Xer405

2 жыл бұрын

@Beakew - They would have and everyone is shitting on Ireland in the comments just because they refused to fight the Germany.

@wobkgs

2 жыл бұрын

@Beakew - In the fifth century CE the Scots from northern Ireland invaded what is now western Scotland and established a kingdom in the highlands...... and stayed there.

@jimtaylor294

2 жыл бұрын

@@wobkgs Precisely. The Irish are hypocrites XD.

@morganmcallister2001

2 жыл бұрын

@Beakew - It's just amazing the British didn't try to pull an Iceland with Ireland. They probably tried to and didn't realize they went to the wrong island until it was too late.

A big thumbs up on this one, History Matters channel. Whoever wrote the script should be a diplomat.

I watch these videos just to read the commentary below. It's nice to get the multiple perspectives on history!

"He didn't trust a word that came out of Churchill's mouth." Yeah, that was probably the wise choice.

@PhantomFelix211164

2 жыл бұрын

Based Valera

@daevious_

2 жыл бұрын

Given that Churchill's other words consisted of "Hey France, want to give up your sovereignty so you can keep fighting against Germany?", it's not like Churchill is a particularly good negotiator either.

@SocieteRoyale

2 жыл бұрын

Boris Johnson is closer to Churchill than most people realise....

@Alsadius

2 жыл бұрын

Why? It's not like he was a famed liar like Hitler. I totally get why De Valera didn't *like* the old imperialist. But Churchill pretty much wore his heart on his sleeve - he wasn't really a cagey fellow diplomatically. Very much of the "Here's what we want, now how many people do we need to blow up to get it?" school of thought. It's not a very deception-heavy approach. @daevious That wasn't the proposal. In the chaos of the fall of France it got misinterpreted, but the actual offer was a full merger of the two nations, not one being subordinated to the other. The logistical issues would have been ridiculously complex (for one, what happens to the King?), but the base of the deal was straight equality.

@Xer405

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alsadius It was a bluff offer History Matters pointed it out too. One he didnt consult anyone on it, two it would lead to a civil between the two Irelands.

Why didn't Ireland Fight in World War 2? Ireland: "Not our concern."

@SSMMTTEE

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, apparently ethnic cleaning and genocide isn’t of interest to Irish people 🙄

@AlexC-ou4ju

2 жыл бұрын

I mean dublin was bombed and irish ships were sunk.

@mathewvanostin7118

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly lets us get drunk in pubs alone and go mister big empire with echothers 😂

@KR-mm4el

2 жыл бұрын

@@SSMMTTEE it isn’t lol.

@SSMMTTEE

2 жыл бұрын

@@KR-mm4el Apparently!

Very interesting thanks

great video

Archer: They were Axis? Lana: NO, THEY WERE NEUTRAL YOU SON OF A "%"!#!4

@RealFemale69

2 жыл бұрын

I love Archer

@montecalvomike

2 жыл бұрын

"and I'm actually Canadian"

@matthewmccallion3311

2 жыл бұрын

Archer: "Wait, they were Nazis?" Lana: "No." Archer: "Well, they weren't Japanese ..." Lana: "Neutral!"

@ChallisVenstra

2 жыл бұрын

Are we not doing “phasing” anymore?

"Are you insane?! If we reincorporated Northern Ireland into greater Ireland now, especially without consulting them, it would lead to widespread civil conflict!" "What makes you say that?" *points to the last century and a half of British/Irish history* "Besides that."

@marke4663

2 жыл бұрын

I once read that the Republic is wary of Northern Ireland being reincorporated as both the Protestant and Catholic populations are so highly politicisised and militant.

@hokutoulrik7345

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt that Ireland reunification would be possible even today. The issues are just too deeply ingrained.

@ninjacell2999

2 жыл бұрын

@@hokutoulrik7345 the issues are primarily between different communities in the North though, the rest of UK and Ireland don't have such a big problem with it. It would logistically be a nightmare but not impossible

@MrBrock314

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjacell2999 It could reignite the Troubles, that's a nightmare.

@mathewfinch

Жыл бұрын

Also the fact that Churchill would have 100% said, "what deal?" after the war was over.

Thanks for a history lesson I was totally ignorant of knowing about.

De Valera sent fire engines and ambulances to Belfast when it was bombed in the Easter blitz in 1941. He also permitted Short Sunderland aircraft (based in lough Foyle) to overfly county Donegal in the hunt for U boats in the Atlantic

@randomcommenter5552

2 жыл бұрын

thats little reason for germany to declare war

@harrynewiss4630

Жыл бұрын

He couldn't have stopped them

@LDCSQUECK

Жыл бұрын

@@randomcommenter5552 no as technical it was humanitarian aid or medical aid so technically we were still neutral but the Germans then "accidentally" bombed Dublin afterwards so we had a warning.

Another point to make was that Ireland was a relatively new country that just got it's independence and came out of a bloody civil war, so I believe Eamon did not want to jeopardize our freedom by joining any side in the event we lose the political gains we've made in the last 20 or so years leading up to WW2

@tacitblue8979

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. At the time Ireland was not in a state where it could handle a full-scale war even with allies, and since it was not in immediate danger itself, it didn't really need to, either. I find it reminiscent of position the U.S. had when the French revolution occurred.

@WilliamWallace42

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly it was the best decision you made to stay out of the war, as a Scotsman I am massively jealous you managed to secure your independence from the crown and in the same life time stuck your finger up at a pointless world war where countless people died for no reason, whoever was running Ireland in the early 1920s and in the 40s you should be proud of their decision making, they certainly knew what they were doing and Ireland is still benefiting today from their decisions, Scottish, Northern Irish and Welsh economies are all lower in GDP in comparison to Ireland.

@Tom-2142

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamWallace42 you talk as if Scotland was in the same position as Ireland before it got independence, as an oppressed people, and not the actual integral part of the kingdom willing and disproportionate participant of the empire that it actually was. The Ulster plantations were started by Scots, and like already mentioned, they made up a disproportionate amount of colonisers and colonial authorities in the empire compared to their actual population. It’s dishonest and pathetic after all of that to turn around with some “England bad” rhetoric.

@WilliamWallace42

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tom-2142 At the time of 1920 and 1940 Scotland was no longer on equal footing with England and were long away from the glory days of the empire, by that point how much respect do you think people like Churchill had for countries like Scotland, he was racist and looked down on everybody especially us, a small country of 5 million now has to bolster the weight of the debt sustained by world war 2 created by the UK government mismanagement of the empire, all the colonies were lost and the amount of debt a nation of over 60 million can generate is huge and now small Scotland has to bear the brunt of it, Margaret Thatcher also stole the oil from the North Sea and sold it from underneath Scotland and used the money to give herself and all her friends in parliament tax reductions, at the very same time Norway had access to very similar amounts of oil and created a private trust fund that is now the richest in the world of it's kind worth billions and it's enriched the economy of the country, Norway is still profiting from it's oil today and Scotland doesn't. The industry in Scotland is worthless to most of the local population. Ireland now has one of the best gdp per capita in the world alongside all the other small European countries, guess what Scotland has in common with them? We are also small and European with a lot of sparsely populated land, we have a country much bigger than the population and it's filled with natural resources, Scotland has one of the best renewable energy potential in Europe, we have all the factors of being a small successful rich European country and the only reason we are behind all of our neighbour's is because we are locked into a union that hasn't been good for the economy of the country in over 100 years.

@jimtrack3786

2 жыл бұрын

But it was okay to watch others lose theirs?

I love having answers for question I didn’t ask

@gabrielcaldura8782

2 жыл бұрын

I love seeing a comment copied by 8 years old 1000 times

@fly8641

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielcaldura8782 I'm not sure it was the guys intention to make this sound rude

@gabrielcaldura8782

2 жыл бұрын

@@fly8641 I know

@gabrielcaldura8782

2 жыл бұрын

@@fly8641 bt stop copying the same comment

@afdalridwan3813

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielcaldura8782 for sure, it was it Unless this comment still copied from fresh times it aired

The relationship took a hit... gad damn my man you are funny as hell

1:39 I never would have thought I'd find a gag about the blitz funny, but here we are 🤣

Also notable that Irish people who did volunteer for the British army were ostracized and shamed for years after, as the Irish people saw them as "traitors"

@ordinaryperson-my7qr

2 жыл бұрын

Wait what?

@kyledoherty2039

2 жыл бұрын

Technically they were as the went AWOL from the Irish army

@Heff-Curry

2 жыл бұрын

Joining the army of a nation that attempted several cultural and agricultural genocides on you will do that

@Corc-Duibhne

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the ones that deserted the Irish Army in a time of international crisis were shunned. This gets into turned into a myth that Irish people were pro-Nazi or some other bullshit

@Admiral45-10

2 жыл бұрын

So did Poles who signed Volkslist. After the war, new Communist government accused many people of collaboration with Germany and purged them (around 20 thousand people died this way) - of course, with majority of them being just AK soldiers uncomfortable for Communism.

"He be lyin" should be used more often in history books

@kobusg7460

2 жыл бұрын

You just doubled the amount of pages in each historic book

Just one point regarding the "condolences". DeValera did not sign a book of condolences it appears there was never such a book. He didn't visit the German ligation (Embassy), but instead went to the German Ambassador Hempel's home. Arguably very naive but he was following diplomatic protocal for a neutral state. But it is not as has been portrayed in Ireland or particularly in the British press.

@annoyingbstard9407

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know who to believe. The contemporary history…or an unsupported claim on KZread.

@seankavanagh7625

Жыл бұрын

@@annoyingbstard9407 Have you a source for your contemporary history or did you think this was like PM Question Time where any old bs can be said as fact?

@annoyingbstard9407

Жыл бұрын

@@seankavanagh7625 You could start with “The History of Ireland” by Dermot Keogh. He is professor of History at Cork University and, unusually for an Irishman, quite prepared to admit to some of the misdeeds of the Irish State. I realise it is difficult for many in the country to accept their history because of the strict censorship applied to the Irish press preventing them reporting much of the truth, he also writes quite frankly about the anti-Jewish sentiment prevalent in Ireland - including in parliament during the nazi years. Sorry, but it may be better you know as secrets always leak out in the end.

@seankavanagh7625

Жыл бұрын

@@annoyingbstard9407 No Englishman has ever read a book about Ireland so how would you know what's in it? Was there some snippet of it online you saw and liked? Press censorship you say?🤔 Do you mean like how all the booing was edited from Charles being announced as your new -owner- sorry King? If we're discussing secrets getting out in the end then you won't mind releasing the records outlining British state involvement in the Dublin & Monaghan bombings. Technically an act of war on a neutral country but alas, we can't get any Nuremberg trials organized for ye. Not yet anyway.

@seanolaocha940

Жыл бұрын

@@annoyingbstard9407 Sadly, antisemitism was very prevalent in Ireland at this time, as it was across Europe, America, and the Middle East. I'm afraid that antisemitism is something that most countries have to grapple with, it certainly isn't unique to Ireland.

“‘Tis better to die ‘neath an Irish sky than at Suvla or Sud-El-Bar”

The only reason they could stay neutral was their geographical position. Belgium and The Netherlands tried to stay neutral too and it didn't work out because their position was too strategic and easy to invade.

@Aegis---

2 жыл бұрын

Same with Denmark and Norway

@DonetskChildrenBidenBomba

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aegis--- What made Denmark weird was that their leader was a dipshit and didn't want to fight.

@TheSmeggyBean6000

Жыл бұрын

Ireland was an incredibly strategic point, its the furthest west point of Europe and could seriously threaten an invasion of the UK from german soldiers entering the republic

@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822

Жыл бұрын

@@DonetskChildrenBidenBomba to bad denmark probably get the least of the horror during ww2 because of it.

@lunkycultist5519

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheSmeggyBean6000it's the 4th furtherst Portugal 1st Spain 2nd Iceland 3rd

Imagine if they had taken Churchill’s offer of unification. Absolutely minimal impact on the war, huge ramifications for Irish history in the 20th century.

@tigermunky

2 жыл бұрын

When he said that, my jaw dropped!

@nanucit

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, like the imperialist fatso would have given them anything...

@SSMMTTEE

2 жыл бұрын

@@nanucit Churchill had tried to give NI away twice that we know of. Certainly an imperialist, but not exactly caring about NI.

@jamesgiles4517

2 жыл бұрын

The unionists would be very unhappy

@daire5377

2 жыл бұрын

Churchill was lying he had no intention to give it.

These are great.

Never knew this history, I enjoyed it.

Many Irishmen fought in WW2, My Grandad and his brothers who were living in London all joined up. After the war there were mixed opinions of this when they went home to visit. I asked my Grandad why he joined up rather than go back to Ireland, he simply said it was the right thing to do.

@melodykelly1396

2 жыл бұрын

My four great uncles, who were brothers and from Dublin, joined WW2. When I asked my dad why, he replied, "They needed a job!"

@2dradon2

2 жыл бұрын

While theres many pointless wars in history, ww2 was different due to hitlers ethnic cleansing/genocide. If Hitler won ww2, he wouldn't have stopped and most likely would have invaded Ireland and sent many minority to 'camps'

@c0wqu3u31at3r

2 жыл бұрын

The state didn't formally recognise or apologise for shunning Irish combatants in the British army in WW2 until fairly recently. Hopefully the recent downturn with Brexit is just a blip in the generally improving state of relations amongst these islands.

@philiphawley1319

2 жыл бұрын

Many Irishmen joined the Royal Navy and were very valued. Naval ratings at that time were still considered to be pressed men, so Irishmen who joined did not have to swear allegiance to the Crown, as they did with the other services ( It was hidden in the papers they signed). The largest Royal Naval Veterans Association outside if the UK was in Cork, in the Republic.

@xwiretapx1247

2 жыл бұрын

My great grandad served in the British navy in ww2, for the same reason as it was the morally correct thing to do

Ireland: "We send our condolences..." Allies: "To the US? For the death of FDR? How nice-" Ireland: "...to Germany, for the tragic suicide of their beloved moustache man. RIP" 🇮🇪

@TorIverWilhelmsen

2 жыл бұрын

Well, Hitler was baptised Catholic, like most Austrians.

@jacob4920

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... I can kinda see why Ireland wasn't exactly "welcome at the dinner table" for a few decades after that...

@DISTurbedwaffle918

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacob4920 Kinda based ngl. Plus fuck FDR tbh. Hitler had basically zero negative impact on the world today while FDR turned America into an invasive hyperpower that ruins any country that looks at it the wrong way.

@bruhbruh-us6gl

2 жыл бұрын

I take it Ireland was not happy about the constant threats and pressure to join the allies.

@crafciak31

2 жыл бұрын

@@DISTurbedwaffle918 Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm You know, that's like saying, that Hitler didn't knew about Holocaust?

Never ask an English person the history of ireland.

@lunkycultist5519

Жыл бұрын

Don't asked and Irish person or and British person about there history because all sides will be biased

“In 1940 as Britain was having a bit of a rough time” I adore this Chanel’s nonchalant humour 😂

The tricky situation Ireland was in so carefully and briefly explained. The humour sharp as always. This has been one of your best vids, and that is saying a lot.

@alliinase9076

2 жыл бұрын

@Ryan You yourself made an actual grammatical error after criticising him for an alternative spelling...

The most interesting part of this whole video was someone telling the British no because they knew their territorial offer was just a bluff.

@ihateregistrationbul

2 жыл бұрын

Dealt with them the longest??

@girlgarde

2 жыл бұрын

I guess they remembered how the British offered the Arabs their own independent kingdom if they fought the Turks in WW1 only to break the agreement to please the French.

@icemanire5467

2 жыл бұрын

@@ihateregistrationbul Well they offered Home Rule to Irish nationalists and promised the it wouldn't happen to Unionists if they recruit in WW1, which they both did. Of course it was BS in the end they had no intention of Home Rule. The two sides pitted against each other for recruitment. That was Lloyd George and of course Churchill again which also is responsible for partition and the notorious Black and Tans.

@jimtaylor294

2 жыл бұрын

^ Complete BS. Home Rule was to be enacted straight after the war. German backed Terrorists though scuppered all of that, with the Protestants choosing to remain British rather than be supplicant to a genocide prone catholic majority state.

@icemanire5467

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimtaylor294 Jim is clear with all the BS your posting that you're a bitter pallet collecting W⚓. Your fellow huns signed a covenant in blood vowing to start a war of Home Rule was passed. Ironically using guns they smuggled in from Germany.

My grandmas family are Irish, and her brother fought not only in Spain against Franco’s fascists, but also in the British Army. He died during the Normandy landings, a Lt. Colonel. He must have been some soldier, having joined the British Army in the ranks. He was called George Crane and I believe he formed a battalion of Irish volunteers.

I learn more from the comments of this channel than from the brief historical summaries

Churchill: "We'll give you Northern Ireland if you join the war on our side!". De Valera wasn't that stupid. This would create an ethnic conflict in Ireland and the British "would have been forced" to send troops to protect the protestant minority and in the process occupying Ireland. It was very difficult for Churchill to swallow that Ireland had left his beloved empire and he couldn't stop them. If he just knew what was awaiting that empire. But de Valera acted in the interest of the Irish people and called Churchills bluf.

@jimtaylor294

2 жыл бұрын

False. S-Ireland whined when Ulster opted to stay British in the '20's, and postwar [uptil the present] tried every dirty trick in the book to get it. It's both the N-Irish and UK that have said no.

@kyleleonard2014

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimtaylor294 you really don't know our history if you think we tried to get them or still try. Did you not see Northern Ireland in the 70s-90s? Who would want that? They spent decades slaughtering each other and the British had to sort it out by paying for it, and handling it with their army. So Britain kept Northern Ireland and suffered miserably with it and still does now. They don't even have a government anymore again. While down South we got rich, and became a hugely successful country despite British attempts to stop us. Win for the Irish and suffering for the British. Even now if the British try anything they get backhanded by Europe and the US, especially the US because Americans are obsessed with us. And Europe values us as a very important member especially since Brexit.

@TomorrowWeLive

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyleleonard2014 and in 50 years you'll be a minority in your own country, just like the British. So, was it worth it?

@barryb90

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimtaylor294 They didn't opt for anything Jim it was partioned by Lloyd George and Churchill. Unionist leader, Edward Carson was disgusted at partition. The 1918 General Election Irish Republican movements won more than 75% of the vote. Unionists only took a clear majority in Co. Down and Antrim.

@XXXTENTAClON227

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyleleonard2014 Britain would’ve benefited off of having Ireland out of the UK, since now they can control the border and make it easier/difficult for you to trade with your biggest trading partner. The British will never need to try anything because you don’t prove to be significant to them unless you commit a terror attack. You’re also thinking of Americans with Irish diaspora, but you forget that England has the biggest diaspora out of the entire British Isles and the governments are borderline intertwined between the UK & USA. Those two countries are inseparable, no way a country like Ireland could change that. Ironically it would be Russia and China who’d back you up, in an effort to portray the west as evil and the USA would back the UK like it has in every single war ever. You have the population of the West Midlands and Greater Manchester, and only half of London. You have ironically inherited the arrogance of Britain, but without the success. Fascinating.

As an Irishman who has studied Irish history quite in depth of just like to say I’m impressed by your level of knowledge on this subject. Even your use of the word Taioseach rather than Prime Minister (as a lot of English people do) really shows the depth with which you’ve researched.

@iggyzeta9755

2 жыл бұрын

We don't call any other country's PM or President by the native name, why the hell should the Irish be special?

@TheBomber15

2 жыл бұрын

@@iggyzeta9755 Because that is the actual legal and political name for the leader of the Dáil Éireann. There’s no such thing as a “PM” in Dáil Éireann, other than a translation for folks who require an equivalent for familiarity purposes.

@poruatokin

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBomber15 Sorry, that's simply not a reason. When speaking English we use English words. For example we don't try to say, 首相 or そうりだいじん when referring to the prime minister of Japan or primer ministro for a Spanish speaking country. Just Irish being uppity Irish.

@kaibaing4288

2 жыл бұрын

@@poruatokin are Irish arrogant 😳

@poruatokin

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaibaing4288 Not all of course, but definitely the ones in the comments here praising the narrator for his "correct" wordage.

Machiavelli could have predicted that final outcome for Ireland opting to remain neutral. True it saved Irish lives by remaining out of the war, but in the long term it only soured international relations, leaving them even more isolated. Had they been more proactive in the conflict, it is possible that the U.K. and Ireland might have had better ties afterward, finding a mutual respect for one another in a common enemy.

@WangMingGe

Жыл бұрын

You really need to research Irish history....Britain has never been Ireland's friend, and neither Germany, nor any other nation, for that matter, has inflicted on Ireland the cruelties which Britain has. There were less Irish in 1940 than in 1840, despite trends everywhere else in the world, because the British starved so many of them.

@michaelrigoletti2410

Жыл бұрын

@@WangMingGe Never said they were friendly at all, though serving together side by side could have created a whole new bond and respect for one another. The U.K. and France for example seem to get along a lot more than they did centuries ago, their wars being so long they got named after their length. This isn't to dismiss British wrongdoings at all, though in warfare, those whom you fight against become hated, those whom you fight alongside become closer.

I was not aware that being a history buff I'm very surprised not what I expected

A Question for you: Why do Bhutan exists?And why it doesn't recognize any China?

@TheOtherOne122

2 жыл бұрын

If I had to guess. They don’t recognize the PRC because they control Tibet and have disputed claims against the Bhutan border. They don’t recognize the ROC because doing so would provoke the anger of the PRC. My guess

@rolanddeschain5161

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOtherOne122 The ROC also claim Tibet

@albens5852

2 жыл бұрын

Because China wouldn't dare invade THE THUNDER DRAGON EMPIRE

@Kefkaownsall

2 жыл бұрын

Based

@mrbisshie

2 жыл бұрын

They took the Chad way out.

The Best bit is that is is an actual chapter in Irish curriculum for history

@liamcosgrave2937

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah lol

@niallhiggins2342

2 жыл бұрын

The Emergency, a great bit of JC history that doesn’t at all address the fact that the Irish decision was utterly cowardly and driven by the unprecedented idiocy of DeValera.

@Xer405

2 жыл бұрын

@@niallhiggins2342 Cowardly or smart enough not to get involved in a war that had nothing to do with them? Dumbass imagine thinking it's bad to keep your people safe from the horrors of war especially when your nearest "ally" used Irish regiments for fodder during WW1.

@stastu6484

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xer405 totally agree. Im not a huge fan of devalera but i respect him for keeping us out of unnecesary bloodshed

@chrronicle1212

2 жыл бұрын

@@niallhiggins2342 So the choice to protect your people and families from war is cowardly?

You mentioned that Britain handing Northern Ireland over to Ireland might have triggered a civil war. This is not to be dismissed out of hand. After London granted independence to the 26 counties of the Irish Free State in 1922, a civil war DID break out in Ireland, ironically called, "the War of Friends." This made Ireland skittish about involving itself in military conflicts - except as UN peacekeepers. More soldiers from Ireland have given their lives in UN peacekeeping operations than have those from any other nation.

Very interesting.

Churchill: Shit, they're neutral, guess there's nothing we can do. Elim Garak: Well....

@ennius42

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think it would work. The Irish representative would probably discover the forgery and dramatically say, ‘It’s a FAAAAKE!

@howtoappearincompletely9739

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever danced with de Valera in the pale moonlight?

1:39 When you're the only one in the server with lag

Thank you for including a Jewish grave marker in the final shot. I visited the beaches of Normandy as a teenager, and you got the occasional Magen David sprinkled in among the crosses.

Very interesting, this fills a void I had in my ww2 knowledge

United Kingdom: "I have no idea why those Irish aren't eager to help us!" Republic of Ireland: "Do want the list of our historical grievances to be chronological, alphabetical, or in order of importance?"

@t.robinson4774

2 жыл бұрын

Churchill in particular would have been a divisive character in the eyes of most of Ireland’s population, considering his actions in the 1920’s. In fact for the same reasons he found himself untrusted/ unpopular among British people at the same time. It’s worth remembering that he came into office only after all diplomatic actions regarding appeasement had failed. Once a European peace was achieved he was subsequently voted out. As an antidote to Hitler he was just what was needed but not the right person to win the trust of the Irish.

@fartingfury

2 жыл бұрын

I often say that the Irish were caught between a racist, concentration-camp-owning government bent on global domination and constantly threatening to invade on the one side, and Germany on the other. I'm not surprised we went with neutrality...

@jimtaylor294

2 жыл бұрын

^ Blarney. Spain invented Concentration Camps, not the UK :P . Also: No. S-Ireland has vety little in terms of *actual* grievances; just tons of contrived copium for the sake of national creation myth making.

@danielcunningham648

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimtaylor294 what is s ireland? Also what myths is there to be told about grievences here in ireland? The famines devastation being as bad as it was due to the incompetence of the british government, no representation for ireland in westminister and little help in dealing with the food crisis and the blight, or with Cromwells genocide acroos the island such as in drogheda and killing at estimates of up to 600,000 people, or the fact ireland is still divided as a nation itself to this day?

@herrzimm

2 жыл бұрын

Pft, Just point to Easter 1916 and leave it at that. If the UK couldn't figure out why Ireland wouldn't join their side after reminding them of THAT moment in history, they never will.

My grandparents on my father's side were Irish and emigrated to London after the war where my father was born. My Irish grandfather served in the RAF in Asia during the war but unfortunately I know little about that at the moment. A lot of Irish fought for Britain throughout both wars despite the government's neutrality

@alanpennie8013

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of Wild Geese only flew as far as England. Getting to see the world on the English King's tab was always tempting.

A bit more to it than that my friend hopefully your post will encourage people to look into more factually and historically 🇮🇪

Very interesting

The "Britain was having a bit of a rough time" bit at 1:39, might be one of your best "dry humor" delivered lines of all time.

@Yoo_Vinny

2 жыл бұрын

So funny... One Brit fighting and the other running for cover.

Anyone notices how the ship near Cornwall at 2:18 crashed and caught fire. Damn I love these little jokes.

@weepingangel3478

2 жыл бұрын

I don't get it

@KenpachiQwan

2 жыл бұрын

@@weepingangel3478 That coast is pretty prone to ships wrecking around there especially compared to the others.

@LudicrousPlatypus

2 жыл бұрын

Also, look up Slapton Sands.

@pyridonfaltis9761

2 жыл бұрын

I though it was torpedoed by a german sub, considering the point being made at the moment.

@pieeater957

2 жыл бұрын

@@pyridonfaltis9761 nah, the south coast of ireland is surprisingly dangerous, had both the spanish and the french sink there at some point

Interesting, I often wondered.

my granny lived in a non bombed area in WWII, but she recalled the fact that you could hear the Luftwaffe planes flying overhead going over to bomb Belfast and Derry. Also, something HM didn't mention here is De Valera also sent fire engines up from Southern Ireland to Belfast during the Belfast Blitz.

@PinkBroBlueRope

Жыл бұрын

I think you mean LONDONderry

@platinumfalcon798

Жыл бұрын

@@PinkBroBlueRope it's genuinely either or, people call it either Derry or Londonderry, i just call it Derry because its easier

@charles5553

Жыл бұрын

@@PinkBroBlueRope reason why it's sometimes called Londonderry is because the layout the city was built was similar to that of London besides us Ireland call it Derry and plus the football club is called Derry City not Londonderry City

@alanmcgowan3457

Жыл бұрын

​@@PinkBroBlueRope there was a compromise made. Derry City in/and the County of Londonderry.

@alanleahy2047

Жыл бұрын

​@@alanmcgowan3457 are you saying Derry girls isn't real?😂

2:00 as person from Poland, I would say it was a good call

@Admiral45-10

2 жыл бұрын

Myśmy dostali tą bolesną lekcję...

@legokingtm9462

2 жыл бұрын

there was no way of saving Poland anyway

@marcinkrz3140

2 жыл бұрын

@@legokingtm9462 So He (Churchill) shouldn't have promised it

@Admiral45-10

2 жыл бұрын

@@legokingtm9462 British could at least show graditude towards Polish soldiers, not deport them and act like they've never done anything.

@LOEKASH

Ай бұрын

​@@legokingtm9462 Then don't make false promises

Ireland had nothing to gain, even north Ireland would have been a problem as this dude said. They mission was to keep their citizens safe and not to get bombed which they accomplished just like Switzerland Sweden and Spain. Love Ireland from an Irish living in Pakistan.

@lunkycultist5519

Жыл бұрын

1st, ireland wouldn't of been bombed, the Germans bomb raf base because its a smart moved, and hitler bombed english city's because raf bombed Berlin and hitler got mad There was no reason to bomb ireland, not while Britain was still fighting him 2nd, Unlucky 🇵🇰 < 🇮🇳

Why didn't Ireland fight in WWII?" Fight? Fight with WHAT? You correctly pointed out that thousands of Irishmen enlisted in the British armed forces during WWII - as my father did. What you didn't mention was that many Irish people treated them as traitors when they returned home, and they were treated with contempt, hatred and in some cases physical violence.

@useryou2

2 жыл бұрын

God bless your family sir and your father a true hero 🙏

@MouldMadeMind

Жыл бұрын

@@useryou2 my enchantments to him too🧙‍♂️

@EAlyahya

Жыл бұрын

Why traitors? Do Irish people back then secretly sympathise with the Nazis?

@taintabird23

11 ай бұрын

My great uncles received no such treatment when they returned home from the RAF.

@greatsageequaltoheaven8115

9 ай бұрын

Good, karma happens to traitors.

Britain: "Hey bestie, wannna jo-" Ireland: "Piss off"

Was just talking about this yesterday great timing !!!

It is also important to mention that Ireland were sort of conned into backing Britain during the First World War in return for home rule (a form of independence), that Britain went back on after the war. Furthermore, Irish troops had a high death rate in comparison to other British nations and the British leadership cared little for them when it came to losses on the frontline. All of this made Ireland reticent of joining Britain in another European campaign.

@ufosrus

Жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised that the Brits would send the Irish soldiers to the frontline.

@markhutton6055

Жыл бұрын

Home rule was going to happen. It was why it was thought their would be no support for the Easter Uprising. The Easter Uprising and subsequent actions only served to delay 'Home Rule', intentionally so on the part of the rebels, who wanted independence NOT home rule.

@Shnipe1

Жыл бұрын

@@markhutton6055 I’m sorry, “was going to happen”?? You have absolutely no way of knowing that. And saying that it was because of the actions of the rebels that home rule was scrapped is nonsense. It had far far more to do with unionist efforts in the north to stop home rule.

@brandonparnell6160

Жыл бұрын

@@markhutton6055 That is a moronic statement with no basis in reality, home rule had been fought over for the past 50 years at that point and the British refused to nudge. The original Easter rising was a home rule based movement. The British cracked down brutally like they repeatedly did for the past century and a half. I don't know who told you this but it clearly was in bad faith and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if its based in anti-Irish stereotypes and discrimination.

@markhutton6055

Жыл бұрын

@@Shnipe1 it was the government policy of the day.

Thank you.

nice!