James Bisonette would personally bring Ireland together

@CosmicCreeper99

2 жыл бұрын

You mean *Seamus* Bisonette

@pabcu2507

2 жыл бұрын

The most powerful character ever

@jamesbissonette8002

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like a lot of work.

@Spongebrain97

2 жыл бұрын

@@CosmicCreeper99 wasn't that also the first name of Marty McFly's Irish ancestor in 1885?

@sassythesasquatch6847

2 жыл бұрын

Kelly moneymaker can help fund the push for a united Ireland considering the last name

"When I told the people of Northern Ireland that I was an atheist, a woman in the audience stood up and said, 'Yes, but is it the God of the Catholics or the God of the Protestants in whom you don't believe?" -Quentin Crisp

@kintaro1851

2 жыл бұрын

Choose wrong to be burned as witch. 🙌🏻

@atbing2425

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but are you a protestant atheist or a catholic atheist?

@CosmicCreeper99

2 жыл бұрын

Either way, they’re gonna burn you

@kamakiller1145

2 жыл бұрын

Atheism is rising in the uk because of secularization Won't be shocked if the uk become muslim majority The netherlands are catholic majority today

@scottgrey3337

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyberwar4111 Sounds to me like some Great Replacement bullshit. Don't expect it to make sense

You're a brave man for tackling this issue. The fact you got it into three minutes is defies belief.

@sumomanify

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh he's only covering the start so much more to unpack post civil war

@andreass2301

2 жыл бұрын

@@sumomanify It's till pretty good. It took me three years at university to cover what he did in three minutes (we didn't have time for the Civil War there either!).

@ahopefor

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreass2301 Well he's a brilliant teacher of history and content creator.

@christiandauz3742

2 жыл бұрын

Wish a Time-traveler Industrialized Bronze Age Ireland

@lookinside7625

2 жыл бұрын

IWhy? It's a simple subject, complicated only by overly emotional cretins.

It’s also worth noticing a third thing, not just land. In 1921, while the war was about to end, they created northern and Southern Ireland. But one thing that was skipped over was a third reason they kept Northern Ireland. It was far more industrial than the rest of Ireland, if you look at a railway map of Ireland from 1920, then you can see easily where Industry was, Belfast, the capital of Northern Ireland was the biggest ship producing port in all of the UK during ww1, it was vital for the war effort. So keeping Belfast meant whether or not they would be able to have a strong navy. It was massively industrial, producing war uniforms with linen mills across the country, along side many British weapon factories, etc etc. The point I’m making is, Northern Ireland was an industrial powerhouse. Think of it as Ireland’s Rhineland

@facundoibarra9339

2 жыл бұрын

Hi 1921.

@ellidominusser1138

10 ай бұрын

That probably has to dk with the fact that it was majority protestant and held more rights than catholic ireland

@tomasaurusstack6200

8 ай бұрын

It ain't like that any more anyways

@AudieHolland

7 ай бұрын

@@ellidominusser1138 Probably also because it was a major investment by the British Empire. I've read somewhere that it's not so much a religion issue as an economic issue.

@zombieslayer1468

7 ай бұрын

@@ellidominusser1138 if you read the comment you wouldve realised that *i think* the original commenter said that northern ireland was more industrialised then parts of britian

I really didn't think he'd be able to make a "short" episode out of this

@piranapirate4361

2 жыл бұрын

I commend him on it though. Relatively unbiased and focusing on facts and events in history. Well done to History Matters.

@RmsOceanic

2 жыл бұрын

Helps that he resisted scope bloat and focused on Partition itself, leaving The Troubles for another day.

@United-Nations

2 жыл бұрын

Now lets just hope comments remain civil

@Jotari

2 жыл бұрын

I do feel like there could have been a slight mention of the treaty ports, maybe just on the map or something. They were a pretty significant factor at the time too.

@Chilavertish

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, yeah. Misses a bit of nuance because of it but its imoossible to dive into everything in 3 mins. it can be argued that the war of independence wasn't "won"; also, I remember seeing somewhere that Presbyterians as well as catholics were discriminated against at some point....

Note for people reading comments just in case: we didn't keep the Monarchy bit.

@kgapaneseschoolgirlb

2 жыл бұрын

You kept it until just before WWII

@uriargaman7241

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was surprised he didn't include a sentence about that

@morganpritchard4177

2 жыл бұрын

George was the Monarch of Ireland till the late 30s wasn't he?

@Ianassa91

2 жыл бұрын

Was going to ask about it.

@timfortune9

2 жыл бұрын

@@morganpritchard4177 It was because of Edward VIII and his abdication that the Irish were able to maneuver themselves out of any connection to the UK.

King James? As in James Bisonnette

@L.P.1987

2 ай бұрын

LoL

As an Irish person I was skeptical when I clicked play… I am shocked that you managed to actually summarise this quite well in 3mins. So many more small details involved but great job. Hopefully we will see a united Ireland in my lifetime

@colegilbert673

7 ай бұрын

Under london's authority that is

@stephenwright8824

5 ай бұрын

@@colegilbert673 _Been there done that, _*_burned the T-shirt._*

@colegilbert673

5 ай бұрын

@@stephenwright8824 mhm

@pathless951

4 ай бұрын

As a canidian who is decended from ulsterman.......why anyone TODAY would want to be associated with England baffles me......constant survalience, getting jailed for Facebook posts, "grooming" gangs that freely roam the streets, not being able to own firearms or even knives. I'd say England has lost her ways and isn't even a shell of her former glory. Now it's government treats its own people like it did its colonial subjects.... I guess because it's run out of other people to harass and subjugate? Idk. Whole thing is rather bizarre tbh

@sekeriyasharif6593

2 ай бұрын

Hell no

It’s worth mentioning, the plantations were actually the 3rd phase of a lot of plantations. Mary I attempted to plant the midlands to basically no success Elizabeth I attempted to plant the south west (Munster) to very limited success James planted ulster leading to a very Protestant northern area of ireland Cromwell attempted to plant the east (Leinster) and was famously cruel about it. “To hell or to Connacht” he said, telling people to go to the western province (with significantly poorer soil quality and much higher rainfall, which partially created the conditions that led to the Famine) or die.

@Barneyfromhalflife1

2 жыл бұрын

Well i did'nt have to hear the last phase

@Skorpychan

2 жыл бұрын

How can you fail to plant the Midlands? If you so much as drop a seed there, it'll grow. At least, if it's outside of the M42.

@g00dbyemisterA

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skorpychan the midlands of Ireland, not England.

@drakron

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skorpychan Connacht was the worst hit area in Ireland during the Great Famine, the Great Famine was caused by two main factors ... dependence of potato because the Irish were pushed out of the better soil and then the arrival of Phytophthora infestans, that being blight. It wasnt that crops failed, it was the Irish were depended on potato crops that were now failing due to blight, other crops were not affected.

@nicosmind3

2 жыл бұрын

Also Ulster settlement between it and Scotland went both ways many times over at least 1000 years back to Ulaid (which took western Scotland), and many if not most of those "settlers" through that history was private. Ie not under state orders. But mostly focused to Antrim and Down. Saying that Glaswegian settlers took a large section of Donegal but I believe they were unconnected to the rest of them

Please do a video on the Portuguese Colonial War. It is a super underappreciated event that changed Africa forever.

@Psytinker

2 жыл бұрын

He already did, sort of, in the Cuban intervention in Angola video. But yes, a video on how Portuguese got flexed on by Communists so hard they nearly became Communist themselves would be neat.

@conserva-chan2735

2 жыл бұрын

@@Psytinker I just think it's amazing a country as tiny and as obscure as Portugal could manage a decades long Vietnam-level war in four theaters across Africa with little to no support and only lose due to the fall of the Estado Novo.

@yousandro1999

2 жыл бұрын

not forgetting that both USSR and USA were fighting on the same side against Portugal in all of those African countries and still Portugal only gave the colonies away when dictactorship finished, being one of the last european countries to lost its african colonies

@henryhill4289

2 жыл бұрын

@@conserva-chan2735 All sorts of interesting touches: the flechas and the thousands of Katangan rebels who crossed over to join the Portuguese rather than accept Congolese rule being stand-outs to me. And yeah, the big-picture fact that in contrast with the French and Americans (and arguably the British), the Portuguese actually managed to win in Angola and were on the way in Mocambique, despite having a metropole about the size of New Jersey.

@conserva-chan2735

2 жыл бұрын

@@henryhill4289 it was because the African Portuguese colonies existed way before the scramble for Africa and were considered an integral part of Portugal, so the cultural attachment for both the Portuguese in Europe and the Africans culturally identifying with Portugal was far stronger than any other colony in the world. I guarantee if anything had been different(foreign support from NATO, Estado Novo holding out longer) Portugal would have kept the colonies.

As an Irishman, I'm very happy that you definitely intentionally released this on my birthday

The best 3 minute, concise but accurate explanation on KZread ever! Well done.

History Matters, I don't know how you did it, but you pulled off an informative, well researched & very sensitively written (not to mention replete with the Hail Mary in Irish, and what I believe is a portrait of Roger Casement?) video on a very complex, nuanced and highly contentious period of history. Absolutely marvelous work, sir- this Irishman with a history degree appreciates your work & proclaims you A Decent Lad!

@karlcasement7067

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, was worried as a Norn Irish lad, when I saw the video come up, but have to say, you've done it very well indeed for 3 and a half mins. Gives me great confidence going into your other videos of places I'm not informed about.

@CrackaPackify

2 жыл бұрын

Casement? I was leaning more Jim Larkin Funny how Carson and Craig were quite obviously them tho ha ha

@samprastherabbit

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrackaPackify Yeah, moustaches are great identifiers! Especially Arthur Griffith's in the episode!

@saparotrob7888

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the translation. I was hoping someone would post it.

It’s honestly impressive that you managed to explain this in 3 minutes

@retrocd7991

2 жыл бұрын

It is TBF! the one thing he did miss that was important in my opinion. Was the fact Sinn Fein abstained from Westminster. Hence Unionits we’re unopposed there for the government or Ireland act 1920.

@ixlnxs

2 жыл бұрын

😎 I can explain it even quicker: Ireland is divided because the UK is a bad loser. 🤩

@GhostSal

2 жыл бұрын

I felt like a lot was left out, GB has been trying to rule the Irish for 700 years.

@retrocd7991

2 жыл бұрын

@@GhostSal bit hard to summerize 700 years in 3 minutes 😭😭

@GhostSal

2 жыл бұрын

@@retrocd7991 I never said it wasn’t or that he had to, just that a lot was left out.

It always takes me like 10 minutes to finish one of these just to catch all the quick visual gags that come and go in a flash. I love it.

Having glanced at the comments, it seems you haven’t sparked outrage while still summarising the whole lot in three and a half minutes. This is an achievement for the ages.

"Quick and not very professional" One, who was too injured to stand, was tied to a chair and shot. Also another one was not an actual leader, but a brother of a leader. William (Willy) Pearse, brother of Patrick Pearse. In a famous letter Patrick wrote to their mother "Atleast after I'm executed, you'll still have Willy." (Para phrasing) Only for his brother to be in the cell next to his waiting for his own execution.

@alicemcpike54

2 жыл бұрын

Also they executed Francis Sheehy-Skeffington without trial and he was 1) not affiliated with any group participating in the Rising 2) a strict pacifist 3) trying to organize citizens to prevent looting at the time of his arrest

@paullong5208

2 жыл бұрын

*Padraig, not Patrick

@severalgeollosscreaming48

2 жыл бұрын

@@paullong5208 actually one thing I remember is my History teacher stating Mr Pearse preferred Patrick, but I get ya point

@sephritine5481

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they shouldn't start shooting at people if they don't want to be shot back just a thought 🤣

@HondoTrailside

2 жыл бұрын

Symbolic murders are always so memorable, and particularly botched ones. Though the resent troubles that seem to have had no useful strategic effect, saw over 2000 killed by the IRA, who killed by far the largest number of Catholics, and at a 2-1 ratio to the other forces in the field. Bombs and torture being so clean. As a Nazi said of his IRA allies in an earlier time: "muddle headed dreamers with no strategic realism".

I’m always so happy when a new episode of the James Bisonette Show comes out!

@winnienguyen4420

2 жыл бұрын

Produced by Kelly Moneymaker

@wattoucheng

2 жыл бұрын

Cast by Spinning Three Plates

@SteventheOrigin

2 жыл бұрын

Special Guest: Boogalie Woogalie

@winnienguyen4420

2 жыл бұрын

Costumes by PartyBoyCo

@SilenceOase

2 жыл бұрын

This thread has no business being this funny

London wants us, Dublin wants us, Brussels wants us; it's all very flattering.

@rusticpartyeditz

2 жыл бұрын

But what do we want?

@Clinkydaggers

Жыл бұрын

London got you

@tesstickle7267

Жыл бұрын

@@rusticpartyeditz we want what we already have.

Your drawing of de Valera was both accurate and amusing. Well done.

“Just a friendly reminder that if one tries really hard, even countries can burn. That’s not a threat or anything but if you pass this silly home rule act we’ll be very upset and we can all discover what Britain looks like on fire. How fun.” Never before have I seen such a well-crafted document.

@stevengreen9536

2 жыл бұрын

@Wes That seems to be a recurring theme in history. Governments pass unpopular laws despite public concerns or outrage and protests. Then act all surprised when the protests turn into violent riots. 😛

@seanorourke9027

2 жыл бұрын

In soccer northern Irish people can play for the republic if they choose to do so. Both James McClean and Shane Duffy are from Derry NI and play for the republic

@foltgameeing

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanorourke9027 It's treason then.

@seanorourke9027

2 жыл бұрын

@@foltgameeing how Northern Ireland by right is Irish. It’s occupied by people who were paid to live on the land and strip it from the traditional Irish Catholics, using them either as slaves or tenants to their own land or sending them to poorer lands in Connaught, hence “to hell or to Connaught”.

@nunny5070

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanorourke9027 It was occupied centuries ago. Those people have now settled for generations and are Northern Irish. Forcing them into the republic against their will or democratic mandate, or replacing them with the "rightful" Irish Catholic landowners, is just as morally bankrupt as what happened when their ancestors first occupied that land. If we determined modern borders based on the historical "rights" of the first peoples to settle the lands then millions would be displaced and many modern nations would cease to exist. Northern Ireland by right is British, and that will only change by democratic mandate.

What a very non controversial topic. I'm sure this comments section will remain a lovely place for calm discussion

@Jotari

2 жыл бұрын

They actually seem rather tame at present. Mostly commendations at being able to sum it up so succinctly.

@United-Nations

2 жыл бұрын

Just wait for Plastic Paddies to turn it vile and sour

@kjamison5951

2 жыл бұрын

@@United-Nations Are Plastic Paddies like Pseudo-Paddies? They aren’t Irish but they pretend to be to feel all triggered?

@chris2610

2 жыл бұрын

@@kjamison5951 they're Americans and Canadians of (at least some) Irish descent who have a very proud and pro-ireland culture, but their culture is mostly divorced from actual Irish culture and have no real connection to the island other than a couple ancestors, and most Irish feel that they're really weird from what I understand. They usually boil down Irish culture to "green thing" and "alcohol" they use Irish stereotypes to say that they're Irish

@darraghsweeney8904

2 жыл бұрын

@@United-Nations what’s a plastic paddy😂😂

I am impressed that you managed to get this topic down to three and a half minutes, including Patron list.

As someone who loves history and has ADD, I want to thank you. You get to the point, don't put too much fluff, and make your videos accurate and short. This let's me enjoy your history lessons over other's here on YT. Thanks for the great content!

As I found out earlier today at the time of partition Ulster (mainly Belfast) produced about 80% of Irish GDP. The Presbyterian Ulster Irish thought that their wealth was going to be used to finance the Catholic state and didn't want any part of that deal. They were probably correct but the partition did mean that both sides of the border doubled down on their respective positions making union harder than ever.

@josm1481

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Belfast was more populous than Dublin and pretty much all industry was around Belfast, although the Dublin/S Irish economy had been prospering up to WWI. Which is why the IRA weren't particularly popular. Another fact not talked about is NI provided more troops to WWI than any part of the UK, seen as a show of loyalty. In essence Britain and Ireland were faced with a situation similar to the US civil war. An industrialised, wealthy North not wanting to join the South. Although the South had the population, ~2.5 v 1.5M.

@ferno056

2 жыл бұрын

@@josm1481 Difference is is that the position between the two has reversed the republic is wealthier than the north nowadays due to a number of reasons(mainly deindustrialisation and the troubles)

@rouskeycarpel1436

2 жыл бұрын

Those Ulster Scots failed to realize though that they were settling on stolen land,also for centuries native Catholic Irish couldn’t sell land,hold political office and many more were driven from their homes in Ulster during the plantation.

@josm1481

2 жыл бұрын

@@ferno056 on paper, certainly. We'll see how tax equalisation effects the situation over the next decade.

@darrenflynn706

2 жыл бұрын

The irony is that if Unionists had supported Home Rule Ireland might have remained a part of the UK or at the very least a part of the Commonwealth.

2:57 I had no idea Churchill was drunk when he gave DeValera that offer, but it sounded realistic coming from him.

@Skorpychan

2 жыл бұрын

He spent a lot of time drunk. It probably helped for dealing with the stress of being prime minister.

@dallascopp4798

2 жыл бұрын

When was Churchill not drunk? The empire he came to rule was crumbling all around him and got progressively worse daily. His city was being constantly bombed and was desperate for any reprevie and small amount of help to keep his tiny island from being taken over. I would be drunk to.

Thank you for making this

I was waiting for this video for a very long time.

Fantastic video that covers most of the history in a short period of time. I also love the use of Irish (Sé do bheatha a Mhuire, which means Hail Mary), to demonstrate the Catholicism of Irish people at the time. Its a very tough and controversial thing to talk about, yet you managed to cover it very accurately in an objective fashion. I love your content and have been watching it for years, but I must say I really love your ability to show Irish History in an objective manner (Some many English Historians struggle to do to this day).

@mkgaming5823

2 жыл бұрын

Irish historians do not tell it correctly either, Most Pieces from Irish Historians on the troubles constantly seem to neglect the acts of terrorism done by the IRA and the fact that to this day Ireland protects IRA members who have committed rape and murder

@sephritine5481

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean at the time the Catholics in Ireland are still terrorists we keep having to arrest them for plotting to bomb and shoot northern Irish people

I have been waiting for this one for so long, great job as always History Matters!

a must-see crash course. thank you.

I just discovered your channel and i love it. History indeed matters, keep it up dude 🤙

This was a brave subject to take on!

@DaraGaming42

2 жыл бұрын

I he’s kinda side stepped the treaty and skipped, maybe it was for the best lol

@brokenglass9814

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaraGaming42 Even mentioning this topic at all, lad's risking his kneecaps!

Alot of love for the editing at 1:18

Great video, hope you do one on the troubles.

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!!

Excellent. A new video for when I get off work. Thank you for keeping me sane and always having a regular upload schedule, boss.

I can't say how impressed I am that you managed to boil such a complicated and tragic bit of history down to a three minute video. Well done!

Would love to see a longer videos from you.

man you really should try to do more long form videos, id love documentaries by you!

Nice video! Really enjoy these. You should also do a video on the troubles and the lead up to the signing of the Good Friday agreement.

@pugparty3799

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think he'd get away with a short there

That drunken offer by Churchill is really a forgotten moment in British history.

@sergeanthowiefromthemainland

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, basically an attempted act of high treason.

@JonatasAdoM

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeanthowiefromthemainland A drunken act of high treason

@JonatasAdoM

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't a drunk premier give Crimea to Ukraine?

@sergeanthowiefromthemainland

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonatasAdoM not sure, who was Soviet leader at the time of the switcheroo?

@Hatfright

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeanthowiefromthemainland Khrushchev. He was a doofus, but I'm not sure about the drunken part.

Your videos are great!

Fascinating! Thanks!

“Why is Ireland divided?” Well it’s a rather *troublesome* tale

@pugparty3799

2 жыл бұрын

Bruhhhh

1:18 must've taken so much work. Kudos

Was looking for this !!

I am watching a documentary about “the troubles” and this is very helpful Thanks.

He’s so good at these videos he can even make an Irish story sound objective despite an English accent. Cheers mate!

@Spud607

2 жыл бұрын

Well thats the job of a historian at the end of the day.

@jamesmccomb9525

2 жыл бұрын

@@whitefox8376 Unbiased narratives and stories are a fiction for the naive. The only way to approach some form of objectivity is to be either extremely brief, or extremely detailed.

@JonatasAdoM

2 жыл бұрын

@@whitefox8376 People can't really be unbiased but they can so their best to hide It. Also to OP, I never considered his accent to be British/English. I hope I can forget your comment.

@fweb3134

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonatasAdoM What did you consider his accent to be

@maxdavis7722

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonatasAdoM yeah what do you consider his accent to be? Also if you think he was biased here what made you think so, and which way does he lean in his bias?

I've been looking into Irish history, particularly in the North, and the impression I get is that it was a long time building, the sequence of events that ultimately led to not only the creation of Northern Ireland, but longer term the Republic of Ireland. Three Home Rule Bills were proposed (of which two failed and the third passed in 1914 but was not implemented because of the outbreak of WW1) before the Government of Ireland Act was passed in 1920.

The placards are completely hilarious (and sad). Thank you for bringing humor to such dire topics!

Brilliant channel.

As always my friend, you made a great educational and funny video!

Very impressive how much you crammed into this. I always cringe before watching videos about my homeland, usually not this accurate!

ohhhhh my thoughts were "this can go bad real quickly" but it was pretty level. Thank you.

this is the kind of real history lesson i like. short and substantial. in the same time i can brush my teeth!

I am surprised at the lack of war of independence coverage, but this is a short video and once you start on it it’s quite hard to stop (soloheadbeg, black and tans, Michael Collins’s 12 apostles, Bloody Sunday, Kilmichael, burning of Cork etc.) Same with the Civil War, Michael Collins dying was so important it’s hard to understate But good work overall, love the channel - a video on why did Britain want Ireland I think would be interesting

@TheHacknor

2 жыл бұрын

It was already mentioned that King James wanted more out of Ireland then a title so moved for colonisation. Other reasons have included paranoia that France would use Ireland like Scotland to attack England in wars, as well as the simple Medieval mentality that it was land that could be conquered for use like with Wales

@rusticpartyeditz

2 жыл бұрын

Bloody Sunday has nothing to do with the war of independence?

@ieatbananaskins7926

2 жыл бұрын

@@rusticpartyeditz there's 2 bloody Sundays in Irish history, you're thinking of 1972, I'm talking about 1920

Fantastic to see an good objective video on the topic. You kept it neutral and short, which I didnt think was possible. Fair play.

Loved Churchill peeping up from the back bench.

The short version is: "Contrary to popular belief, successionism was far from universal in Ireland. The areas where many residents had friends/family in Britain opted to stay part of Britain."

Finally a level-headed yet simple video on the subject

Would have been even greater irony to mention that when the 1916 Easter Rising happened, Home rule had already been passed 3 times in the british House of Commons. According to the paliament act of 1911, the House of Lords could no longer veto this bill. Home rule was supposed to receive the royal assent and become effective. However, WW1 meant that the implementation was postponed since most thought the war would be quick. Initially the 1916 rising wasn't popular for that exact reason, most Irish folk were already waiting for the autonomy they asked for and was already guaranteed. Contrary to popular belief at that time, full independence was only sought after by a political minority of those i.e. those who took part in the 1916 rising. At the immediate end of the rising, those who took part in it were unpopular because it was thought they were betraying those irish soliders fighting WW1 for Britian and the Home rule autonomy they were promised.

@Connor-jl9gq

2 жыл бұрын

Thats fascinating, so it would be possible for both sides to still remain apart of the home nations (atleast temporarily) if the war had been postponed?

@charlestonianbuilder344

2 жыл бұрын

@@Connor-jl9gq in an alt history, home rule was granted, and up to this day ireland still is under the uk which is more commonly known as great britain, though there are recent tensions about independence similar to whats happenning with scotland

@yurtzenika

2 жыл бұрын

@@Connor-jl9gq perhaps tensions might have kept rising and delayed the problem later... But at the time, home rule was certainly what was expected for tge majority of the Irish people. The 1911 parliamentary act was actually motivated by the King who saw the Lords continuing to veto home rule as anti democratic

@niallkinsella2687

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlestonianbuilder344 I would think Ireland would have already broken away fully, especially given the amount of decolonisation that happened after ww2. Possibly without any civil war and possibly without any partition, but very possibly with a lot more German air raids circa 1940, and a lot more world war memorial statues throughout the country. Scotland only got a watered down version of home rule in 1999, and has been chewing the scenery in anticipation of full independence ever since.

@DaraGaming42

2 жыл бұрын

The more I read Irish history I’m starring to think the rebels got impatient , but I suppose who could blame them , ww1 could have lasted 30 years as far they knew

The “Sé do Bheatha, a Mhuire” sign was a nice touch. 🙂

That well had me in stitches

The great Tayto v King debate still tearing families apart to this day

@United-Nations

2 жыл бұрын

Lyon V Barry just as brutal

@uaobrien

2 жыл бұрын

Which is why the Irish refuse to swear an Oath of Allegiance to a King, but will gladly lay down their lives for a bag of Tayto.

Guys! I just had a nightmare. I got to the end of a History Matters video and James Bisonette was not a Patreon supporter! I know, I know, it would never happen but it still shook me to my core just thinking about it.

I learned about home rule when watching a video on the construction of the Titanic. It’s on KZread, I think about 45 minutes long. Really interesting documentary.

I was wondering what flashed on the screen when you said "well" and then I remembered what channel I was watching lolz

I always feel so smart when History Matters asks a question I already know the answer to

@scintillam_dei

2 жыл бұрын

A parrot can memorize trivia just like us, right?

As someone who's Irish myself it's always cool to see how many people are into Irish history

@SteveSmith-qf7xj

2 жыл бұрын

It’s because a lot of Americans think they somehow count as Irish just because their great great great grandad once drank a Guinness in Dublin.

@United-Nations

2 жыл бұрын

It is a shame so many people are stupid about it and only see it as Haha car bomb lol! Richie Kavanagh is a good Irish historian

@lordgemini2376

2 жыл бұрын

@@SteveSmith-qf7xj Plastic Paddies as they're known in Ireland 😂

@williamhall667

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordgemini2376 same here in England. The there are real Irish and there are pretender's, who pop out of the woodwork on St Patrick's Day. Only to disappear again as soon as they appeared. 😆

@zylnexxd842

2 жыл бұрын

They are into British History not Irish

Brilliant!

Thank you.

History Matters always answers my questions so that I don't have to look for the answer myself!

@uaobrien

2 жыл бұрын

Um, so how do you find the answers on History Matters then? 🤣

@APinchOfHistory

2 жыл бұрын

@@uaobrien I see, good point, mate lol. Well, I guess I can say that the video presents itself on youtube, so that I don't have to search for it :D

"A drunken offer from Churchill" Is there any other kind?

The Churchill bit was great

When talking about modern Ireland, one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights. This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on). People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics, ever since

@7ElevenAlphaCentauri

11 ай бұрын

What if the 26 counties got Home Rule in 1886 and the counties in the North remained fully controlled from London? Would that have made a difference?

Video idea! Why Greece dont have Northern Epirus while they occupied it 3 times?

@CosmicCreeper99

2 жыл бұрын

Because it’s Albanian. Period.

@lhistorienchipoteur9968

2 жыл бұрын

isn't it because it's not greek-majority inhabited?

@HenryLeslieGraham

2 жыл бұрын

asking the real questions here

@francesco8000

2 жыл бұрын

@@CosmicCreeper99 Ok but that's not the point of the question. A lot of countries have provinces that have different population compared to the rest of the country (This video is an example).

@stephmod7434

2 жыл бұрын

@@CosmicCreeper99 ?

Few tidbits: - Home Rule in some circles was seen as a restoration of the Irish Parliament, which had existed in the Kingdom of Ireland before the Act of Union in 1801 folded it into Westminster. - Catholic emancipation in the 1830s was welcome, but there were concerns that even with this, direct rule from London had all sorts of inefficiencies for handling Irish issues. Like the famine. - The Home Rule movement really gained traction as a result of the famine. Potato Blight wasn't an Irish-only issue, other European countries struggled with it, yet Ireland far and away suffered the worst from it, and it was believed distant British mismanagment both before and during the crisis contributed to its severity. - Ireland wasn't officially independent after 1922. It was a Dominion, on the same level as Canada. It took further reforms in 1937 and 1949 to truly gain independence. Also this is extremely technical, but the whole of Ireland was part of the Dominion, but what would become Northern Ireland had the option to opt out of it and back into UK membership, which they exercised one day later. I could go further with them, but much like you have I shall show restraint. Story for another day. - Trivia: In the 1920s the US Had colour-coded names for War Plans with different countries. War with the British Empire was War Plan Red, with theaters of the war being different shades of red like Scarlet, Ruby etc. In this plan, Ireland was Emerald

@SylviaRustyFae

2 жыл бұрын

Sayin London had inefficiencies handling "Irish issues" "like famine" is such a skewed way of portraying what happened. Their British overlords forced monocropping and forced the exportation of many other crops besides potatoes thus grtly worsening a potato blight. And then the British actively failed to do anything to help Ireland thru the famine and instd actively punished Irish ppl to a grter extent and created forced workcamps that didnt provide even the calories to replace the energy used working; and required ppl to either go work there or starve. They even refused to let any other countries donate more than the British monarch had to help out the suffering Irish ppl so that the Brits wud appear to be helping the most. Actually look up the stories of that great famine, and of other famines caused by British neglect and outright abuse of native ppl.

@RmsOceanic

2 жыл бұрын

@@SylviaRustyFae You're not wrong, British handling of the famine was an utter failure from a humanitarian view. But as a Norn Iron I'm trying to keep my biases in mind.

@SylviaRustyFae

2 жыл бұрын

@@RmsOceanic As someone who doesnt live in Ireland rn bcuz my family was driven outta Ireland by those exact things; i opt not to be neutral on this bcuz gods damnit i shud be living on the Emerald Isle, not in the melting pot that saw my ppl as like third-class white ppl when we first came here >.>

@saoirsedeltufo7436

2 жыл бұрын

I love how you say "it is believed" like there's a chance British colonisation didn't cause the famine... and it wasn't so much mismanagement as a deliberate continuation of the exploitation of Ireland

@noobplays-saslow2920

2 жыл бұрын

@@SylviaRustyFae Your family was the exact reason that Ireland had suffered so hard during the famine. All of Europe was suffering from the potato blight however Ireland had an huge dependence on potatos. Most Irish either moved to England or to the US during the famine, only worsening conditions as there was now a lack of people to farm other crops and to help transport food sourced from England into inland Ireland. An often overlooked part of the famine is that the British government did provide an relief effort, in fact the largest in history up to that date. They even bought a fuck ton of grain etc from the US (buying food from foreign nations to alleviate an local famine was near unheard of during those days). Especially when in this time period most countries didn't even try anything to alleviate famine unless it was nationwide. Also you aren't Irish, you're an American and your lucky to live there. Ireland was literally one of the poorest and most religiously Conservative nations in Europe up until a few decades ago. In theory every American other than those who where originally there before Europeans came from somewhere else, it doesn't make them that nationality though.

Thank you. Better explained than my history class.

Can you throw in a COMMA when you speak please? 😉 It’s like a speed bump when talking, it makes you _slow down_ You put so much humor (and effort) in the cartoon… actually into everything, I’m sure you want us to enjoy/appreciate it. Thank you btw for this upload 👌

Very impressive. I did a history exam in Ireland today, and i had a paragraph dedicated to this. The one thing you did miss (a small thing to be fair) Was the fact Sinn Fein abstained from Westminster. Hence Unionists we’re unopposed there for the government or Ireland act 1920. Successfully partioning the country while Sinn Fein MP’s were in jail, in the run, in hiding or abstaining

@MarkusAldawn

2 жыл бұрын

Well, it also missed a few specifics of the Home Rule saga, but yeah, it would have been nice to touch on SF abstentionism, given it still holds til today. For years, we had an MP who abstained, but still drew the pay. Drove me mad, no matter the justification.

@mackenziebeeney3764

2 жыл бұрын

Now Sinn Fein is the second largest party in Northern Ireland, and on track to be the biggest after the next elections.

@wojtekpolska1013

2 жыл бұрын

i mean i dont rly see how that is relevant, could u clarify?

@overdose8329

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkusAldawn money is being printed/borrowed might as well take it from the English than not have any

@MJ-cv5ye

2 жыл бұрын

Rampantly inaccurate. only 1 SF TD abstained from the 1st & last southern parliaments only vote to ratify the treaty. The unionists won 40 seats in NI & 4 in the Free State. I garuntee you've failed that exam with an answer like this. Sorry to break it to you. The 4 free state unionists along with 1 SF MP abstained. Nothing was decided at westminister. The 40 northern Unionist MPs boycotted the vote & 12 seats in NI went to nationalists, 6 to Irish Parlimentary Party candidates & 6 to Sinn Fein. Of the 6 NI seats won by SF 5 had stood for election in the south also so they also voted on the partition. Labour & Farmers party had stood aside in the preceeding election to not muddle the vote but rewon their seats in the election that happened right after the civil war. The 125 SF TDs voted to accept the treaty by a 7 vote majority. The anti treaty walked out & the 125 minus the 6 home rulers & 46 unionist MPs transferred automatically into the 2nd Dail by default which ran consecutively with the first/last southern parliament. There was absolutely zero chance of any other form of democratic result. The pro treaty SF had a clear majority & if the other home rule nationalists had rowed in to back ant treaty. The 46 unionists would have voted too & made the pro treaty result go from a clear yes to an overwheming yes. Stop rewriting history.

Worth noting that the leaders of the unionist movement during the home rule crisis actually considered themselves Irish, not British, but a distinct protestant Irish, and held the conviction that it was a patriotic Irish stance to be pro-union. Edward Carson is a good example of this but pretty much all the leaders of the ulster covenant believed this. Today there's definitely more of a British identity sentiment among the northern unionists, but that came about after the establishment of Northern Ireland.

BIG fan of a single second cut to a picture of the well lol caught me off guard

You'd have to do a whole other episode about the Troubles and Good Friday Agreement.

Another Great video - Thanks. I have to wonder what happened to the Monarchy as Head of the State in 'Southern' Ireland?

@RmsOceanic

2 жыл бұрын

Two step program: 1. In 1937, in response to the Abdication Crisis and the damage to monarchy's legitimacy, Eamon DeValera unilaterally asserted a new constitution that severely curtailed the Crown's authority in Ireland. 2. In 1949 they went for broke and unilaterally declared themselves a fully independent republic. Britain shrugged and went along with it.

@greendayremix

2 жыл бұрын

Essentially, over time in the 1930s, the CommonWealth gave more powers to the states in it so they would be "equal" with Britain, not under it, sharing the crown. The irish changed their constitution which whittled away references and oaths of loyalty to the king (They established a president with all Head of State powers, but there was still some form (albeit minimal) of submission to the crown). Eventually in the late 1940s, they officially declared a republic, leaving the commonwealth.

@Rushfelt33

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks @greendayremix / @RMS Oceanic - I wouldn't say that was mistakingly omitted but it's a beauty that anyone that wants to know will go and search for it. In this case, helpful fellow followers who points us in the right direction ☺️

@steffenbakken4531

2 жыл бұрын

The statute of Westminster in 1931 gave dominions a lot more power over their own laws. De Valera heavily exploited the statute to systematically remove English control in Ireland. The abdication crisis gave him a good excuse and he declared an irish president in place of the king

The "well" joke gets me every time

Well done lad.

Sorry if this is not the place, but I was wondering if and where we might make any video requests/suggestions? Love the channel and the vids!

As an Irish man and has been studying about our history for 6 years well done on the video.

@scintillam_dei

2 жыл бұрын

I plan to learn Irish. The Iris should put Irish first, not Stinklish.

@2dradon2

2 жыл бұрын

@@scintillam_dei as a NI man, don't walk into anglophobia. Yes you can be proud to be Irish but dont misunderstand that for hate of the UK or England or whatever. We have a strong, shared history and like most places in the world, its mixed between bad and good history. :) have a good day

I literally finished reading a book about this today. The Rebels of Ireland by Edward Rutherfurd for those curious. It's part of a two book series telling the history of Ireland through fake characters and families who "lived" there.

_’drunken offer from Churchill..’_ Love it!!

I dont know what's UK govt stands on the Korean nations possible unification. But for me, peace has been achieved since mid 90s in the Ireland isle. So, keep it as it is for peace is the most thing human beings want.

I just read the title and was like "Good luck explaining this in 3-4 minutes"

Hello History matters, You might not see this but I have some great topics I feel you should make a video about, as I enjoy your simplicity in covering complex topics. 1.) How did Switzerland loose it's monarchy? 2.) When and how did the UK get such a great navy? 3.) When did India 🇮🇳 get nukes? 4.) Why did Hannibal cross the alps? And was it actually successful as reported? 5.) How did Switzerland and Portugal stay neutral in Ww2? 6.) Why did the Spanish, Dutch and French support the Americans against the UK in the American revolution? 7.) Why did so many countries get involved in the Nigerian civil war? 8.) What was the Japanese reaction to Germany surrendering in Ww2? Please look into them 🙏 And great video by the way!

great work again. I feel like the people of northern ireland share similarities with the people of newfoundland in ways... such that people there are a mix of irish and british culture/ heritage

1:19... brilliant animation

Truthfully, this should be a 10-minute video, especially in the years after the establishment of first, the Irish Free State, and later, the Republic of Ireland. This, of course, would also be followed by The Troubles, the Palm Sunday Accord, and Brexit.

@Darkfawfulx

2 жыл бұрын

Brexit is too recent.

@dominicguye8058

2 жыл бұрын

Brexit is far too recent to include

@KengCo7

2 жыл бұрын

The Good Friday Agreement surely?

@Darkfawfulx

2 жыл бұрын

@@KengCo7 That seems fine

"I was born on a Dublin street where Royal drums do beat"

@United-Nations

2 жыл бұрын

Of course there are these comments

That animation of the different English leaders saying “no” was pretty snazzy good job

Nice video. Although the failure to mention the Boundary Commission in the treaty is a short coming. Many thought the boundary commission would essentially end partition within time. So saying the Irish just accepted partition in the Treaty is an oversimplification. Still a fairly good synopsis though.