As Ireland reeled toward famine, in London, Sir Charles Trevelyan was retooling his relief plan to be *less* generous. Trevelyan saw this potato blight not as a disaster, but a God-sent opportunity to remake Irish society. And he was determined to make the most of it--no matter how much suffering he had to inflict. bit.ly/EHPatreon

@alextheperson1393

5 жыл бұрын

Extra Credits yay!

@ryanbowen2946

5 жыл бұрын

Hi extra credits love your videos

@theratking3075

5 жыл бұрын

Woooo also good job on 2 m

@theratking3075

5 жыл бұрын

Also you probably may not see this but could you guys do a vid on the crew?

@r.mishra6725

5 жыл бұрын

Hey,EC,what happened to the Kiner bro.s?I've noticed that they've stopped producing music for EC,so what's going on?

Rich british politician: This is fineeee. They need to pay for their own food. Literal Slaves: These people need help we're donating money

@biliminsrlar5752

5 жыл бұрын

Ottoman and Sultan Abdülhamid wanted to send 10.000£ but England Queen didn't accept that because England send only 2000£ so she didn't wanted dying Ottoman's help more than greatest empire in the world but Ottoman still sended ships carrying food supplies to Ireland secretly...

@dtownblastinsalvi62

5 жыл бұрын

Oyuncu25 ve Bilim sad thing is it’s true British caught some Ottomans helping the Irish and killed. Other people were willing to help even at the cost of their own lives but not the British who are literally united with Ireland. That’s just messed up.

@stevewondering6311

5 жыл бұрын

Moifi kea American Wilbur Ross: it’s fineeee. They can just take out a loan

@stevewondering6311

4 жыл бұрын

Abusive adopted parent that also thinks you are a broken toy

@sbrevolver15

4 жыл бұрын

"Cries In Starving Irishman"

"Policy of nonintervention in the free market." "Any maize purchased must be from British merchants."

@dynamicworlds1

5 жыл бұрын

That's about the level of consistency I find from people extoling the "virtues of the free market"

@seraphthegatekeeper

5 жыл бұрын

By definition, not a free market when the government distorts prices and bars bartering.

@tylerharris7081

5 жыл бұрын

Whenever the government plays favorites, the market and the people suffer

@theman9048

5 жыл бұрын

Sound like conservatives

@macdeepblue

5 жыл бұрын

I was disappointed by the number of little logical issues in this script, such as what you noted. In addition, they couldn't get fish because "most of the fisherman had pawned their nets for cornmeal." But presumably someone else now has the net and so why would there be fewer fish available? Also, were fisherman really saying "Hmm, I could keep my net and always be able to get food or I could pawn it and have food for today only." EC's statement seems a bit suspicious to me.

Trevelyan: "We cannot intervene in the free market!" Also Trevelyan: "Can't be importing any of that cheap American grain tho."

@requiem6465

10 ай бұрын

The paradox of Laissez-faire capitalism.

@marioluigijam3612

7 ай бұрын

Yup. No intervention except those that are politically convenient

@carteriffic1681

29 күн бұрын

⁠@@requiem6465this is a mixed market, laissez-faire would be allowing American grain aswell

God: I give you this magnificient emerald isle, I give you rich fascinating culture, I give you unique talent for music and I give you the everlasting CRAIC The Gaels: Is there, like, a catch? God: Wait till you meet your neighbors lol

@Bigclown1916

3 жыл бұрын

Chingiz Zhylkybayev LOL

@wackyboi7540

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@quasar7951

3 жыл бұрын

Even if you're an athiest, you can find this funny

@disneyfreak9011

3 жыл бұрын

The Gaels: Ó mo Dhia

@Adamantium93

2 жыл бұрын

@@quasar7951 As an atheist, I can indeed confirm that this is funny.

Frankly those officers who rebelled and sold cornmeal at cost were goddamn heroes.

@AimlessSavant

5 жыл бұрын

And likely discharged for insubordination to King and Country.

@hfar_in_the_sky

5 жыл бұрын

@@AimlessSavant Yeeeep! Sometimes life can have a real bitter irony to it.

@impervas5801

5 жыл бұрын

@@AimlessSavant F*** King and Country.They served people.

@AimlessSavant

5 жыл бұрын

@@impervas5801 the only people who should have mattered. The people of Ireland.

@sarasamaletdin4574

5 жыл бұрын

Ominethius, Queen Victoria was the monarch not a King.

I teared up at hearing that even the native Americans and African Americans sent help.

@Danjor2005

5 жыл бұрын

Because no matter where you are in the world people who are starving and in oppression are people after all.

@modothegreat108

5 жыл бұрын

@@Danjor2005 Unless you're British, apparently...

@thanhavictus

5 жыл бұрын

Motherfuckin solidarity of the downtrodden. That's as noble as you can get. And the Tory nobility who caused the famine have the gaul to call themselves "nobility"

@chanzpalau-agbayani1270

5 жыл бұрын

This brings faith to humanity, even the forgotten. Bless to those that did something big, but in a very small way.

@cutiepatooty123

4 жыл бұрын

Also almost teared up at "The Irish had 2 Choices: 1. Stay & fight for Ireland or 2. Leave. Me: My Family...chose to leave.

“Enslaved and native Americans gave charitably” Me: *literally crying* they shouldn’t have had to do that but that is so wonderful of them though

@thelordofnuggets629

4 жыл бұрын

SerenityM16 r/im14andthisisdeep

@thecoffeeengineer

4 жыл бұрын

This showed the flaws and the greed of those in power in Britain. Only wanting to protect their own interests and wealth at the expense of other countless less fortunate people.

@coby4480

4 жыл бұрын

TheLord OfNuggets wrong time to use that meme

@crestfiredetro7370

2 жыл бұрын

That's when humans are beautiful, when they can even best angels at being saints

"In the states enslaved people & native Americans raised funds for Ireland" That hit me so hard.. The Choctaw tribe who themselves went through all sorts of hardship like the trail of tears sent us funds during the famine.. People who were enslaved too.. That blew my mind. Hard times drives people together, much love to you all.

You, know I never really understood Irish hatred for the British. After seeing the videos on the famine, those sentiments make sense now.

@OwnFall420

5 жыл бұрын

Dixie Normous Tell me, how are those British Territories in Africa and India? Oh wait..

@wolfwoodphreak

5 жыл бұрын

@@dixienormous8559 nothing says success like getting your asses kicked by the colonies

@dixienormous8559

5 жыл бұрын

@@OwnFall420. Er, Duh, We got rid of them after WW2 because they were more trouble than they were worth and they wanted to be independent. Don't they teach history at your school? The colonial era was at an end and we didn't need to worry anymore about Germans, French, Dutch, Belgians, Italians, Spanish, & Portuguese grabbing them instead. We kept them while it mattered Which kept our enemies weaker and the UK stronger. Got a problem with that?

@srijayasalim3608

5 жыл бұрын

@@dixienormous8559 but Irish won the independence war against your country lol

@dixienormous8559

5 жыл бұрын

@@srijayasalim3608 Actually they didn't. They signed a peace treaty compromise agreement which allowed the North to stay British. It had been made clear to them that rejection of this treaty would result in the full might of the British army being deployed against them. Wisely they chose to sign up, but then they started killing each other instead. Not much of a win lol.

Imagine killing your population because you’re mad that they’re too poor

@VNYoshi

5 жыл бұрын

vlad approves this message

@kawaiiobama8079

5 жыл бұрын

well they weren't really considered as part of the population. they were conquered to be exploited.

@ryanjapan3113

5 жыл бұрын

Seyah I think mao and Stalin would love that

@erikanders3343

5 жыл бұрын

We still do it today. I can think of a few client populations that are treated the same way.

@michelsand5399

5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Japan dont even fucking start.

Poverty is because of moral failing. The moral failing of the upper class.

@goyonman9655

4 жыл бұрын

Exercising imperial control over someone else's land

@animalgalgamingandreviewin6280

4 жыл бұрын

OOOOOOOOOOOOH! * airhorns and confetti *

@opticfloyyyd

3 жыл бұрын

Well yes and no. It’s not the responsibility of the upper class to do so. If I was in the upper class tho I would help as much as I could but the governments incompetence that starved them.

@oceanberserker

3 жыл бұрын

@@opticfloyyyd And the government doesn't count as the upper class in it's own way how?

@ibnbattuta7031

3 жыл бұрын

it's because of a system of class which exists to reward the rich and destroy the poor. This goes against all morality.

"A nation’s greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members" - Mahatma Ghandi

@Bloodlyshiva

4 жыл бұрын

Most nations are terrible, then.

@kaparg

3 жыл бұрын

nope.

@freshlypouredbingwater7913

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bloodlyshiva also true

@vanshverma6581

3 жыл бұрын

Gandhi* not ghandi

@Hankrecords

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bloodlyshiva well, yeah.

As an Englishman I am disgusted at what the English people did to the Irish. No wonder anti-british/English sentiment was rampant after this.

@leaf7392

5 жыл бұрын

AlphaxAlex yup it was fuel for the Easter Rebellion

@vfaulkon

5 жыл бұрын

American here, and I've heard a lot about the animosity from Ireland (or certain parts of it at least) towards Great Britain before these videos, but now I have a whole new understanding of it.

@jameswhite153

5 жыл бұрын

yeah, it wouldn't have taken a whole lot to fix this mess, a few grain shipments from america would have done the trick, as an englishman I am disgusted and embarrassed.

@tecnicstudios

5 жыл бұрын

thats what you get with the British Empire, that empire was morally corrupt and cared not for anyone who wasn't British.

@lyca0n535

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah we still have a anti-British sentiment to this day over the sins of the British administration in the past, beidh lá eile ag an bPaorach.

I've never appreciated my hash browns so much

@adachi5928

5 жыл бұрын

(Lenny face)

@Ethan-mp7wr

5 жыл бұрын

I eat kids like you ..And questionable username #1344728484

@15098D

5 жыл бұрын

Love those hash browns

@trashmeme2328

5 жыл бұрын

*hashtag brows*

@thiccchungo1041

5 жыл бұрын

you wanna know something worse than the famine? When you get more then 5 poisoned potatos in minecraft from a harvest

The irony of being "pro-free market" and "anti-free trade".

@erikanders3343

5 жыл бұрын

Ok too many people are latching on to the misunderstanding that "you can't have Laissez-faire and blocking American imports". This seems to be a misunderstanding of @4:54 . So no the imports where not blocked, just the British government made a policy that "any Maize purchased (*by the British government* ) come from _British_ merchants " See also @5:37 There was no embargo, simply put the Irish were to poor and global demand moved the price of food out of their reach. Nothing shown here is contradictory of laissez-faire economics. There is no contradiction. Also to point US Ships arrived with food relief on 17 March 1847, foodstuffs were loaded onto The Jamestown. It left Boston for Cork a week later, taking only 15 days and three hours to complete the transatlantic journey. All of the crew were volunteers. The captain, Robert Forbes.

@Gamerad360

5 жыл бұрын

​@@erikanders3343 But again, why were the Irish poor, because of the government intervening and taking land from the Irish, and regulating inheritance law. That's not free-market capitalist, and very much contrary. A free-market by it's nature requires opportunity for social mobility, and by the government stealing Irish property, they took away that opportunity for advancement, and made Ireland a land of poor. A free-market also requires respect of property rights. Also, the government favoring certain producers due to things other then price and quality is also against the free-market. racism and nationalist are in direct conflict to the free-market.

@erikanders3343

5 жыл бұрын

@@Gamerad360 You seem to not understand how free markets work. the regulation f inheritance is not a market factor, just as in the country you can't claim the United States is not a free market economy because we tax and regulate inheritance. You are either unaware of the context of the term and not using logic or ... who knows, this argument seems to hold no purpose. Also No, a free market has no concerns with "social mobility" it is about the movement of good and services based on least cost most benefit. In regulated economies like most of the industrialized world that regulation enables enough stability for the markets to not be chaotic, but enough instability to allow disruption and progress. I recommend reading Adam Smiths foundational works on the subject to understand what is the role and capability of a free market. Also, as the first and second videos already covered the reasons for Irish poverty are far more complex than "the government did it" I recommend watching the first two videos then coming back. Lastly, No the crown respected property rights, but those rights belonged to either English, nonresident landowners or largely nonresident Anglican Irish, The native Irish lost their land rights ("property"; being a much much broader term) prior because they sold, forfeited it in court for criminal (often trumped up) or in rebellion. Remember that the landlords who were pushing the poor Irish off the lands were just employees and they did what economically was in their best interest (see free market). SO much so in the next video, you will see that evictions went up as relief efforts started coming in.

@kishinasura1504

4 жыл бұрын

@@erikanders3343 so as always, they always use the free market when it's convenient to them, but when it's not, the go full interventionist in order to protect their interests, the interests of the nation or whatever.....always happens.

@KZ-xt4hl

4 жыл бұрын

@@erikanders3343 You seem to not understand how "free market" oligarchy works. Mr armchair economist

"Ah, Mary, how long will it take for us to go, y'reckon?" "Well now there, I'd give meself another week at the max." "Really, one week? I sure could go for a bit longer than that I'd think, what about John, has he come back from the roads yet?" "No, it's been a month now, I'm afraid he's probably gone already." "Oh you poor thing, he's died on you. Well look now, I'll say a prayer for you on Sunday, and I'll ask Father Feary about what he thinks you should do. I'd say you'd be able to last two weeks, as long as you don't go moving too much, and don't keep hasslin those sprogs of yours about" "Alright then, I'll tell you if I last past the two weeks then" "Oh no, I won't get much further than that myself now" The Irish; We have a certain talent for making the most horrific conversations sound pleasant.

@nathanseper8738

4 жыл бұрын

That American visitor must've felt like he walked into a horror show!

@jtjpro13

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine an American used to abject slavery and second class citizenship being facts of life looking somewhere and thinking, 'This is immoral!' That's how bad the British were.

@nathanseper8738

3 жыл бұрын

@@jtjpro13 "The Irish are supposedly free, but are treated worse than the enslaved." (Please note, I am not trying to justify slavery, but emphasizing the horror at how the English treated their own subjects).

“Rebellious,” and “lazy,” seems a bit contradictory.

@Carewolf

5 жыл бұрын

Don't let a contradiction get in the way of a genocide.

@olenickel6013

5 жыл бұрын

@Angel Fox That's because they aren't actually about the others they are supposed to describe, but about the majority society and its own ideals. The idea of racism is people basically telling themselves "don't be like that", even though deep down inside their human self would love to. Hard work sucks, but if you believe that hard work is a moral ideal, it helps to externalise this inner contradiction by hating on supposedly lazy Irish or Gypsies instead of admitting you have a lazy side yourself. You are supposed to obey authority, but at the same time as a human you hate being told what to do, so instead of acknowledging that you have a rebellious side yourself, you hate the supposedly rebellious Irish.

@bassault

5 жыл бұрын

@@gustavoavila392 cringe

@cudwieser3952

5 жыл бұрын

When nothing is left, not even the mercy of grace and charity, we see who man really is and what we really are. This is not a condemnation of the past, but a fact of what we are and why we must never treat others as different to ourselves

@mybutthasteeth1347

5 жыл бұрын

You've already put more thought into this mindset than the people who believed in it did

I've never hated a historical figure as much as Trevelyan. There are greater villains certainly, but as far human repugnance he's in a class all by himself.

@Psychol-Snooper

5 жыл бұрын

@@animewatch4213 You don't have to be Irish to hate him. Just human. :( I actually tried to look up how he died after posting this in hopes that he caught some wasting disease that there might be justice via irony (but found nothing.)

@matthiase3287

5 жыл бұрын

@@Psychol-Snooper Yeah he is evil. You are merely hoping an other human died a horrible death. What are you then? He at least thought he did the right thing. You just hope someone else suffered.

@HullabaLulu_Art

5 жыл бұрын

@@matthiase3287 There was an opinion piece in the Times during the height of Black '47 that said, "Soon a Celtic Irishman will be as rare as a Redskin in Manhattan." Even if he believed he was doing the right thing, to him, the right thing was genocide. Are you really going to claim Trevelyan had the moral high ground over someone outraged that Trevelyan's plan resulted in 1 million deaths? My country has never recovered its population since an Ghorta Mór. We still curse Cromwell and Trevelyan's names to this day. I hope he was denied the heaven he believed in, due to his own refusal to show simple, Christian mercy to the people of Ireland.

@HullabaLulu_Art

5 жыл бұрын

@@matthiase3287 a direct quote from Trevelyan about the famine: "I hope I am not guilty of irreverence in thinking that, this being altogether beyond the power of man, the cure has been applied by the direct stroke of an all-wise Providence […]. God grant that we may rightly perform our part, and not turn into a curse what was intended for a blessing." He saw the Famine as a blessing. But hating him for that means we're worse than someone who KILLED A MILLION PEOPLE, right?

@thomaschevalier2181

5 жыл бұрын

@@matthiase3287 Hoping that a person who did horibly bad things (even tho he thought it was for the greater good) suffered what he inflicted to others isn't a sin or whatever you call it. It's being human and it's perfectly normal.

On such a dark matter, I appreciate the Australia joke

Absolutely shocking. In America we aren't taught this history, just that the Irish escaped famine to arrive in America. Thank you for posting this history. As the son of a British mother, it helps to understand the multifaceted view of the British empire from a completely different perspective.

This is probably the most genuinely depressing Extra History series since the Seminal Tragedy.

@leaf7392

5 жыл бұрын

Dantonion i think the one about John Snow was pretty depressing as well

@stachestar

5 жыл бұрын

@@leaf7392 But that one didn't have a sad Irish style outro.

@leaf7392

5 жыл бұрын

Dantonion I'm in a place where I can't listen to it I'll listen to the outro later

@Edax_Royeaux

5 жыл бұрын

@@leaf7392 At least John Snow wasn't running around trying to spread cholera to weed out the surplus population or anything like that.

@samleheny1429

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed. They're about tied for me.

Me, as a kid: the potato famine was about agricultural issues Me, as a teenager: the british didn't help I guess Me, now: okay, it was mostly the british's fault edit: guys for god's sake be civil down there, I don't leave these wisecracks so you can fight over unrelated nonsense.

@Inucroft

5 жыл бұрын

Clearly you weren't actually paying attention to the information presented.

@Stettafire

5 жыл бұрын

+03germas Nah, in Wales it really wasn't taught properly. It was only ever covered in a single lesson and it just said that the crop was killed by a fungus, it didn't actually talk about the English help or lack of. My guess is they kept it out of our cirriculum because they were worried about causing more anti-English sentiment in Wales, but ye, a lot of people are very uneducated about the topic. I only really learned about it as an adult.

@iamcuthulu316

5 жыл бұрын

Was ALL the british fault.

@spartanx9293

5 жыл бұрын

@@iamcuthulu316 i would say it was currupt officals you dont blame an entire nation for what a few terrible people did

@commonviewer2488

5 жыл бұрын

@@iamcuthulu316 The plague affecting the potatoes was the only thing the British weren't responsible for. The terrible aftermath to the blight is entirely Britain's fault.

History teacher: What was the virus behind the potato famine? The voice in my head: Don't say the English, don’t say the English, don’t say the English

@arthas640

4 жыл бұрын

Tell the teacher "it's the fungal type of virus"

@dziltener

4 жыл бұрын

That teacher is an idiot

@jaceofspades328

4 жыл бұрын

Say the English, Say the English, Say the English, Say the English

@heruiksanudin8942

3 жыл бұрын

It's British actually (maybe?)

@nooneinparticular5256

3 жыл бұрын

Loaded question. The virus brought about the famine. The English brought about the death.

When i was learning about the famine, my secondary school history teacher read reports and accounts by doctors. I had nightmares for days afterwards - the conditions were horrific, and what starvation and desperation lead people to was horrible.

@placeholderdoe

Жыл бұрын

Must’ve been a good teacher

The Kindred Spirits sculpture in Cork commemorates the aid sent to Ireland by the Choctaw nation. It's incredible really because the Choctaw people had just survived the trail of tears so their generosity is profound.

@kaywolf1520

5 жыл бұрын

An the Taoiseach's Chokataw nation scholarship

@bernardosantos8020

2 жыл бұрын

Hm…. respect

Laissez Faire economics, but they're restricting trade from America? You sure they didn't just _really_ hate the Irish?

@drizzt102

5 жыл бұрын

No were actually sure they really really did

@erikanders3343

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, they did think of the Irish as an inferior race, an attitude that is also common in white supremacist groups in the US surprisingly. the definition of who is or is not white being something they get to control. It's not hate really, it's more the colonial mindset closer to home. The British learned their brutal repression tactics over hundreds of years by first practicing on the Irish and Scots.

@nonya_bidness

5 жыл бұрын

well... Trevelyan _did_ say, "the judgment of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson." but I guess we'll never know.

@lordbrain8867

5 жыл бұрын

What gave you that idea...

@tidmartin4794

5 жыл бұрын

It’s hating the Irish and Malthusian ideology.

I forget. Could someone please remind me why Robert Peel was so controversial, again? Based on what I've seen in this series, the man was practically a philanthropist compared to Travelian!

@silverhawkscape2677

2 жыл бұрын

Politics. He did get kicked out by both parties at the time.

@nicopavvi8494

2 жыл бұрын

His only error seemed to make his relief plan too much complicated. At least according to those videos.

@timdadwagan

Жыл бұрын

The Britain empire wanted to kill the Irish Catholics and Robert peel tried to save them which is why the soup stuff was not helpful it only let Protestants eat soup

@nooneinparticular5256

Жыл бұрын

@@timdadwagan I mean, I get the idea that Peel was pushing the Soup, right? Or was he trying to get around the Soup? And I recognize that the Protestant British didn't like the Catholic Irish, but I figured they were just trying to change them. Not commit outright genocide (besides Trevelyan wanting to, of course).

10:15 oh come on thats..... A very good representation of australian actually LOL

@donthavelove42

9 ай бұрын

I WAS ABOUT SAY THAT HAHAHA

Really tells you something about how bad a famine is when enslaved people decide to raise money to support relief efforts.

@benjaminzeledon7626

5 жыл бұрын

Ottoman's too. They sent like a million dollars in today's money and a whole lot of food

@ThatGUY666666

5 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminzeledon7626 That's impressive, but still it's hard to top people who were presumably postponing purchasing their own freedom.

@aaronconlon3880

5 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Zeledon Also the fact that the Ottomans were one of the most brutal Empires in history and it's generally believed that they made their relief efforts in order to try and undermine British rule in Ireland.

@MrMattumbo

5 жыл бұрын

Well if there's one good thing about being enslaved it's that your owner is financially invested in your survival and will keep you alive if possible... For the Irish there was no one who cared if they lived or died, the British were just as happy to let them die and take their land for their own use. I think even the slaves of the American south realized just how horrible the conditions were for the Irish despite being "free people." This was also long before being "white" meant much in the eyes of the rich, the Irish (especially Catholic Irish) were probably ranked just as low as the black slaves except less useful and more unruly/threatening. That said, it is an incredible gesture of compassion for an enslaved person to send what little money they had to help those even less fortunate than themselves, truly a testament to human kindness and self-sacrifice. And I'm sure the Irishmen fighting for the Union kept that little event in mind as they drove through the South decimating the Confederates.

Couldn't you also mention the fact that Sultan Abdulmajeed offered £10.000 to the Irish but was declined by british management because the Queen's donation of £2000 would look tiny in comparison. Then the Sultan's decision to send £10.000 worth of grain to Ireland via sea (Yes this is confirmed by many articles at the time both British and Irish, and the coastal town of Droghera still has a crescent and star in thanks to the Sultan on it's coat of arms)

@dazman1127

5 жыл бұрын

Yep I live in Drogheda and we use a symbol from a culture so far away from us, just shows how much Irish hated any British symbol

@TheJK300000

5 жыл бұрын

Yes £1000 were given for relief however there is no evidence of the sultan wanting to send 10000 save rumour. he did express that he would help which was sent along with the money (also his ships were told to divert since at the time Britain and the ottomans were on thin ice politically)

@Pizza23333

5 жыл бұрын

No it isn't actually confirmed and the coastal town of Droghera had a crescent on its coat of arms long before the famine happened.

@ayacachotinemi4974

5 жыл бұрын

The reason they aren't mentioning is that it most likely isn't true. It's just an unsubstantiated rumour put about by Irish nationalists.

@ImpeachObamaASAP2010

5 жыл бұрын

Whether or not the 10k was offered or not the coat of arms has nothing to do with the Sultan or the famine. The star and crescent came from the royal seal of King John, who gave the town its charter. The star and crescent emblem in the crest of the coat of arms is mentioned as part of the mayor's seal by D'Alton (1844).[19] In 2010, Irish president Mary McAleese, in a speech delivered during an official visit to Turkey, stated that the star and crescent had been added in the aftermath of the Great Famine as gratitude for food supplies donated by the Ottoman Sultan, which had arrived at Drogheda by ship. Irish press quickly pointed out the story was a myth, with a local historian calling it 'nothing short of sheer nonsense'.

On the moralization of poverty: As a teenager I had a friend who would rail at character choices in horror movies, ignoring that that was the point. Eventually I put it together that this resentment was to avoid realizing oneself is also vulnerable. Something, something, bootstraps

That feel when you realise your country's politicians have Victorian standards and that nothing really changed.

@nathanseper8738

4 жыл бұрын

People screaming about how illegal immigrants want to "live off welfare" and simultaneously "take yer jobs!"

@lourdeswhitener9713

2 жыл бұрын

We need more jobs and higher wages

The sultan of the Ottoman Empire tried to send £10000, but was refused because the queen had only sent £1000

@AlmaTorran97

5 жыл бұрын

Is this fact?

@undeadwill5912

5 жыл бұрын

Now I know why the hatred of british is so great.

@leodarksam6230

5 жыл бұрын

@@AlmaTorran97 Yes. Look it up.

@mostpalone6077

5 жыл бұрын

@@AlmaTorran97 Yes, you can look up Sultan Abdul Majeed, also when his offer of 10.000 pounds was declined by the british goverment, he sent 5 ships full of grain and other storable food to Droghera. Which has put a crescent and a star on it's coat of arms in thanks to the Sultan, there were also articles written by british media about "the benevolent sultan" You can find out more here kzread.info/dash/bejne/hoWbo8mek8mvoaQ.html

@enesbilgin937

5 жыл бұрын

@@AlmaTorran97 yes

Hearing how mothers starved until their milk dried up leading to the death of their babies just makes me feel really bad. And the fact this still happens around the world is appalling.

@that1pieperson80

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@animalsarecomradestoo.8995

5 жыл бұрын

Well that's capitalism for you.

@silverdeathgamer2907

5 жыл бұрын

@@animalsarecomradestoo.8995 Capitalism can be a successful within the right framework, look at social democracies like Sweden. Besides socialism/communism usually leads to famines when agricultural reform is attempted and blundered and/or is led by authoritarian leaders with little or no regard for human life.

@VladimirDemetrovIlyushin

5 жыл бұрын

@@animalsarecomradestoo.8995 Not exactly that "capitalist boogeyman", but lack of morals and ethics, or guidance. Any country that has deep societal problems will reveal this, often shifting the blame to an economical system.

@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527

5 жыл бұрын

Edward Chuck Agreed. This is far more the fault of malice and lack of empathy on the part of the British government than on capitalism (which, before anyone says anything, is responsible for it’s fair share of tragedy and suffering as well).

Damn... my mom's side of the family came to America during the famine, and while I had a general idea of what it was, I had no idea it was THIS horrifying.

@dacypher22

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. The name I think throws a lot of people off. It is just one crop. How could it be that bad? But yes it was a horror show unseen in a European country for hundreds of years. What I wasn't aware of was just how much politics were involved. They were freaking still sending grain to England while people were dying in the streets!

I now see my food in a different light I never have appreciated it this much before

So, the Irish ended up in the hands of a disciple of the real life Thanos. This is only getting worse, isn't it?

@Pikazilla

5 жыл бұрын

can we not use dank memes to joke about a mass genocide?

@89Crono

5 жыл бұрын

@@Pikazilla No joke, the ideologies Thanos expresses in the film come straight from the mouth of Thomas Malthus.

@SteelingLight

5 жыл бұрын

@@Pikazilla Uhm, no. Why? Because it sums it up perfectly. Malthus was a borderline imbecile - yada yada hindsight and all that - and the fact that one of his students was involved in this event kind of informs anyone who knows about him about how stupidly managed this whole situation can get. Also, maybe, some people joke to understand it better, ever think of that? And, maybe it helps to insult the idiots in power to show that we can understand the position of those who got royally screwed by this situation.

@dr.vikyll7466

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah... this was irl Thanos JUST NOT AS THICC BOI

@mrbenoit5018

5 жыл бұрын

Dr. Vikyll okay, that’s a bit....not serious.

The fact that there are still people who believe poverty is a moral failing on the part of those who live in poverty disgusts me.

@danielpincu6030

5 жыл бұрын

Sometimes it's because of mental disorders. That's not a moral failing but it's true that mental disorders are one of the things.

@dbojangles1597

5 жыл бұрын

@@danielpincu6030 And sometimes it truly is a result of moral failing but the overall picture is multifaceted complicated no doubt.

@lyreparadox

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, It's discouraging how many of the arguments used by the British I've heard people use about poverty in the US. Usually they follow up with "and that's why welfare should be cut/ended/made more difficult to receive!"

@KerbalFacile

5 жыл бұрын

It's the counterpart to people who think all wealth is ill-acquired, in a nutshell. Whereas poverty really is just the normal, natural state of man... which is why we should be thankful of the economic structure slowly built-up generation after generation on our ancestors' savings and innovations, that lets us have demultiplied standards of living.

@nessesaryschoolthing

5 жыл бұрын

​@@KerbalFacile No, poverty is very much invented. In a state of nature, men were nomads and would never stay in a place with no food. There were no national boundaries, so if you could walk or canoe somewhere else you would and nobody could argue. You didn't have to worry about finding a job where you went or speaking a language, just tracking the game and foraging for sustenance. No mass starvation, disease, migrant crises.

@Extra Credits you should do the war of independence/1916 Easter Rising as the famine contributed to both

"I support the free market. No free handouts." "I support the free market. You can only buy our goods."

"Protect the free market", all while placing government restrictions on where you can procure food, where the food can be sourced, and interfering with transactions between buyer and seller. Riiiiight

@jordanenyard9554

5 жыл бұрын

no ,no you see those laws were about maintaining the status quo for England at Ireland's Expense. They functionally removed any ability for the Irish to make money then blamed them for being poor. After all a wealthy Ireland becomes a competitor and free-market principles don't so sound so good when it means you might actually have to play by the rules.

@Stray7

5 жыл бұрын

It's as if all capitalists are ideologues with hypocritical values! Who'd have thought?

@brandonlyon730

5 жыл бұрын

No different then with so called “Socialists”.

@nonya_bidness

5 жыл бұрын

I heartily disagree. Trevelyan wasn't a capitalist, at the very least not in regards to his actions during the famine. He was a genocidal racist. Saying things like, "the judgement of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson."

@benanderson89

5 жыл бұрын

@@nonya_bidness Ideologue? Yes. Racist? Probably not, or at least to no great degree. What he was, is religious. Keep in mind that at that time, even writing with your left hand was considered blasphemous worthy of caning in English schools. If you remove the religious aspect of it, I'm sure the famine would've played out VERY differently, if at all.

"When famine starts, death is the correct and proper course of action." Nice Thanos ideology you have there.

@bradleystewart5444

5 жыл бұрын

You do realise he is describing the beliefs of a separate person.(can't tell if your being sarcastic or not)

@ProffesionalZombie12

5 жыл бұрын

@@bradleystewart5444 I know he was =) Was just humoring the belief system of said-separate person.

@ciarancassidy7566

5 жыл бұрын

"I really hate poor people"- Thomas Malthus 1844.

@ciarancassidy7566

5 жыл бұрын

@Phillip issa meme. If he could've he would've

@farmerboy916

5 жыл бұрын

It's a stupid concept that in broad terms still pops up every so often, worrying about overpopulation, though nowadays usually with more concern and less of a moral focus.

"There was to be no intervention in the free market", which is why you not allowed to buy grains from anyone except Britain.

The Irish: Literally starving to death Charles Trevelyan: lol raise food prices

Wait, how can you have free markets and ban imports? That's not very cash money.

@lonewolfM16

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's basically the worst possible handling of the situation. The benefit of the free market is that scarcity causes prices to rise which causes exports to areas of scarcity and intensification of production of the product. To some degree it spread the famine in other parts of Europe (areas with relatively good harvests still had food shortages because much of the food was exported to be sold in famine ridden areas) but also let the famine be eased by food imports...simultaneously not intervening to support people with food, and buying food from domestic merchants selling it at a higher price instead of buying it chepaer from foreign producers, is weirdly contradictory and basically stuff all the advantages of the free market in a bin.

@tevildo7718

5 жыл бұрын

Its less free market and more mercantile economics IE China's economic system (Since they stopped being Communist quite some time ago.)

@erikanders3343

5 жыл бұрын

@@tevildo7718 mercantilism is something completely different, the prior political party in control up till 1846 were Tories who were protectionist by nature having deep monied interests in the grain and food exporters. However, Charles Trevelyan was a liberal (does not mean the same thing as now) who believed strongly in laissez-faire economic principles and thus they required that everyone be paid and the pay would be on a market set price of food products.

@JoshSweetvale

5 жыл бұрын

It was an excuse. A blatant lie to appease the capitalists. What England was actually doing was attempting to exterminate the Irish as a people. Kill a good portion, pseudo-enslave and convert the rest.

@Gamerad360

5 жыл бұрын

@@lonewolfM16 Protectionism is inherently contrary to a free-market.

No government intervention! Except you can’t bring in American grains. ... wat?

@erikanders3343

5 жыл бұрын

@CK Lim That did not happen, please watch the video.

@jeric_synergy8581

5 жыл бұрын

@Z'Q , or the people that inherited fortunes from etc etc... One would think by now the human race would have figured out that rare indeed is the inherited fortune that does any societal good. Taxing the crap out of inheritances at least keeps the wheels turning, the money moving, instead of cementing a lucky few on top.

@blackearl7891

5 жыл бұрын

That's why you dont combined free trade policies with nationalism. It's an utter stupid contradiction.

5:50 ironic how the man who decried the Irish as “lazy” is far lazier than any of them

I know this is a serious topic but I love that the Australians are upside down

The icing on the cake here is that along with being an economist, scholar, and proto Bond villain, Thomas Malthus was an ordained priest.

@farmerboy916

5 жыл бұрын

And somehow his ideas still float around, in various fashions in most political prties. I blame the stone age, hunter gatherer part of the human brain that sees economics as zero sum and there being a limited amount of food.

@3mpt7

5 жыл бұрын

@@farmerboy916 Uh. That stone age part of the human brain is based on the physical universe. More accurately, economics (like nearly everything else) is a long-term negative sum game, and there very much is a limited amount of resources, and a limited amount of food that can be created with those resources. Even acquiring fresh drinkable water, for example, is no easy task. The ideas of Thomas Malthus are quite sound, in some instances. What politicians do with those ideas...ehhhhhhhhhhhhh.

@farmerboy916

5 жыл бұрын

G. Hammond Incorrect. Malthus only saw the mouths of people, and not the hands; when extra food can be created by new technological advancements, more people can actually produce more food more efficiently.

@3mpt7

5 жыл бұрын

@@farmerboy916 Hmm. No. I'm sure you're far more familiar with the law of diminishing returns than I. I'll simply point out that the potato was one such technological advancement, and it didn't go so well in the end for the people depending solely upon it. Technology can't solve stupidity or greed, and it only adds to the problem of waste products, incl. gases, radiation, and heat. Mouths, hands...and arses, I'm afraid. I also would not express such confidence in the people who control said technologies. Savvy?

@GiordanDiodato

2 жыл бұрын

his ideas were basically an early example of social darwinism

Anyone else notice that a lone hat is riding in the carriage at 3:27?

@rudolfschrenk9411

5 жыл бұрын

I guess thats some painted sign on the doors window.

@willichtenstein7071

5 жыл бұрын

your right, take your upvotes.

@historicalman1817

5 жыл бұрын

I did

@oktaydogangun5168

5 жыл бұрын

The coachman has a double hat. The horse...

@ColegaBill

5 жыл бұрын

There is probably some very deep symbolism somewhere.

The 3 great fear of an Irishman; The horns of an oxe, The hooves of a horse, & the smile of an Englishman.

@RandomHuman-yp7lt

4 жыл бұрын

4. When your mammy is holding a wooden spoon

10:20 almost made me cry

I still think it's funny that the prime minister during the potato famine name was Peel

@chinchillaruby4170

5 жыл бұрын

Pls fix grammar, that wording is painful.

@mrbenoit5018

5 жыл бұрын

Dagan Ward and that was his name his name which his name was.

@MinecraftAddict991

5 жыл бұрын

@@chinchillaruby4170 wooosh

@chinchillaruby4170

5 жыл бұрын

Es ist mir egal, ob es einen Witz gibt. Wer falsche Grammatik verwendet, muss in ein Arbeitslager gesteckt werden.

@apotato6278

5 жыл бұрын

I KNOW! It's fucking hilarious how a man named Peel had to oversee the potato famine

I appreciate that they represented Australians and their upside down culture

@toyotaprius79

5 жыл бұрын

Lets not forget how many Irish and other 'convicts' from the UK who as little as 8 years old 'stole Trevelyan's corn', stole an apple from an orchard, or skipped paying a train ticket; were indebted by the prison system and sent to Australia and other British colonies to work off their debt as indentured servants. Sure, for some it avoided starving miserably.

After seeing this, I made a one-panel comic called "trevelyan's dream". It is a Map of the British Isles with Ireland replaced by a Second England (not Britian, England). It has cities and The city of Dublin is now new london, Belfast new Newcastle, Sligo new Liverpool and cork new Wiltshire

“Irish problem” “Jewish problem” See the similarities here? I’m afraid I do as well

@jaceofspades328

4 жыл бұрын

*T H E I R I S H Q U E S T I O N*

@ChickenLiver911

3 жыл бұрын

Quiet.

@jacobburke5523

3 жыл бұрын

the dallas problem was one you were familliar with

@archosauropre-historico8708

3 жыл бұрын

The Ultimate Solution

@ajax9923

3 жыл бұрын

I ddint know the f in JFK was from norman origin

"donations came from as far away as australia" *image is upside down*

@wyattjones6077

4 жыл бұрын

yidasjdjasgd what are you talking about, that’s what Australians are like, who said anything about upside down

I convinced my history teacher to teach us topics with Extra Credits videos, it’s great.

@lolibote2352

5 жыл бұрын

bacon eggs speech 100

@bruhgaming3142

5 жыл бұрын

Well, they get some things wrong. I reccomend she reviews the video's facts before showing them.

@catchamp1880

5 жыл бұрын

My 6th grade SS teacher used the Punic wars videos because he was tired. It was a good week.

@caseygray2328

5 жыл бұрын

props to you

@lxathu

5 жыл бұрын

@@bruhgaming3142 Yeah but... no history book exists that is flawless either. Some are "wrong" on purpose, most by mistake.

By a lonely prison wall. I heard a young girl calling, Michael they have taken you away! For you stole Trevelyon's corn, So the young might see the 'morn! Now a prison ship lies waiting in the bay.. Lonely the Fields of Anthenry! Where once we watched the small free birds fly! Our love was on the way! We had dreams, and songs to sing! It's so lonely 'round the Fields of Anthenry! By a lonely prison wall, I heard a young man calling. Nothing matters Mary when you're free! Against The Famine, and the Crown! I rebelled, they cut me down! Now you must raise our child with dignity! Lonely the Fields of Anthenry! Where once we watched the small free birds fly! Our love was on the way! We had dreams, and songs to sing! It's so lonely 'round the Fields of Anthenry! By a lonely harbour wall, She watched the last star falling! As the prison ship sailed out against the sky! Sure she'll wait, and hope and pray! For her love at Botany Bay! It's so lonely 'round the Fields of Anthenry! It's so lonely 'round the Fields of Anthenry.. Edit: Two wonderful covers of this song exist by the band Dropkick Murphys kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3yl25qnY6XJoaQ.html and The High Kings kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZY6lzZiKprSamZc.html Two very contrasting groups of genre. The High Kings providing more authentic Irish Folk music, while Dropkick Murphys absolutely shred it with some american rock mixed with old irish folk! Though all credit is due to Pete St. John for creating such a piece of music to reflect on the famine and cruelty Ireland endured.The

@rigvee5768

5 жыл бұрын

Ominethious Calistian I learned that song for my JC Music course

@AimlessSavant

5 жыл бұрын

@@rigvee5768 Have a few listens to The High Kings, and Dropkick Murphy's covers of "Fields of Anthenry". They make quite a more impactful wake than my simple text :v

Hold Up. Enslaved people who themselves struggled to scrape by, found a way to shave every extra fraction of a penny to provide for Ireland? This is EH's new record for moving me. And my faith in humanity is restored.

Never knew my ancestor went through somthing this bad no wonder they moved to America

@Itspapacritz

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know think my Irish ancestors came during 1847

@dankdreamz

5 жыл бұрын

Look into why the St. Patrick's day parade is a national event across the USA. The Irish weren't exactly welcome to America. After some time in America the Irish began to take on a lot of jobs that routed them into American culture. They took on paving roads, fighting fires, and policing. Over the years they started a solitary movement to fight for recognition as Americans and each year that movement is celebrated with parades.

@Gh0stwheel84

5 жыл бұрын

Our Irish ancestors, many of whom helped make this country what it is today, would be whooping our asses for what we're doing to migrants and refugees today.

@525Lines

5 жыл бұрын

@@dankdreamz Chinese, Polish, and so on. Any homogeneous wave of immigration is going to get some degree of resentment. During the Civil War, Irish immigrants were recruited for military service at the dock.

@Nostripe361

5 жыл бұрын

​@@525Lines True. Its kinda one the stupid things in American culture that the last wave of immigration from a single country will be the most hated immigrants. Give it another decade and no one here will care about Mexican or South/Central American immigrants. Since we'll be to busy complaining about the next wave of Chinese or Korean immigrants for "Tak'n ur Jerbs!"

Free market but you cannot import from the USA

@VNYoshi

5 жыл бұрын

Free market but you protect the merchants not the consumers

@user-K8T

5 жыл бұрын

Free marker, but you protect the wealth of one small area instead of the whole empire.

@impervas5801

5 жыл бұрын

hypocrisy

@poliestotico

5 жыл бұрын

Mercantilism!

@jimmyryan5880

5 жыл бұрын

Freemarket was an excuse. The famine was a genocide that was allowed to happen, the took the ability for people to feed themselves when they stole the land, all they had to do was sit there and watch.

Robert Peel: "I have a plan, maybe not a great plan, but *a* plan, for helping to feed the starving Irish that should help starve off the worst of the Blight" Charles Trevelyan: "Corpses make excellent foundations for political change" Irish: "But maybe not the change you were hoping for"

So you stole Trevelyan's corn so your kids could see the morn, it's so lonely around the fields of athenry. 🎵🎶

@papageno88

4 жыл бұрын

Against the famine and the crown I rebelled. They ran me down. Now you must raise our child with dignity.

@johnladuke6475

3 жыл бұрын

By a lonely harbour wall, she watched the last star falling as the prison ship sailed on against the sky...

Just when you think it couldn't get worse, it does.

@nutpeg6915

2 жыл бұрын

hello justin.

Never forget: crop failures and droughts and disease may be caused by nature, but famine is something humans do to each other.

@learningagain4094

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't go so far as to say we do it to each other, we can definitely make it worse though.

@aleandra-constantine3033

Жыл бұрын

@@learningagain4094 Oh no, we do it to ourselves. In 1915, the Ottoman Empire closed the Syrian border with Lebanon, the same year locusts killed practically all of the Lebanese crops and blockades in the Mediterranean Sea meant western food couldn’t reach Lebanon. Over the next 3 years, 1 in every 3 Lebanese people starved to death, in some regions as many as 1 in 2 starved.

10:35 good to see there were officers who did what was right instead of what they were ordered to do.

The Quakers were very important for charity during the famine too. They were first to give aid to the Irish in 1846 opening soup kitchens and donating without proselytizing.

I’m surprised you didn’t mention Lord John Russell. He absolutely hated the Irish and thought they deserved what they got as punishment for holding to their traditions and resisting anglicization. “Alas” he once said in a letter to a colleague, “the Irish have been taught many bad lessons, but few good ones.”

So Travalian wanted to "protect" the free market, but also made sure American grain stayed out of the market? Is that correct?

@erikanders3343

5 жыл бұрын

From Derek Ross: A "Laissez-faire, laissez passer" economy is one with minimal regulation and taxation. As originally proposed by the Physiocrats, the only tax would have been Land Value Tax. Otherwise, people would be left to trade without supervision or regulation. The only control would be contract law as determined by the legal system. A "Free Market" economy is one in which markets are kept competitive. Under normal circumstances, markets will evolve from an initially free, competitive state where there are many buyers and sellers to a monopolistic or monopsonistic state where there are a few large sellers (or less commonly a few large buyers). This may happen through mergers, through seller control over market entry or for other reasons. However, it generally happens in the absence of government regulation to prevent it. So a Free Market economy generally has a good deal of government supervision and regulation to maintain the freedom of the markets. A "Capitalist" economy is one in which people use money to make more money. While both a Laissez-faire and a Free Market economy could, in principle, be based on barter, a Capitalist economy cannot. Money is a required component of a Capitalist economy. In addition, monetary profits are extremely important to people in a Capitalist economy. Since free markets produce lower monetary profits for an individual seller than monopolistic markets, a rational capitalist seller will always try to convert a free market to a monopolistic market. Hence while a capitalist economy may start out as a free market economy, it will not stay "free-market" if it is also a laissez-faire economy. So the three are not the same thing. They each describe different aspects of an actual economy.

@erikanders3343

5 жыл бұрын

Ok too many people are latching on to the misunderstanding that "you can't have Laissez-faire and blocking American imports". This seems to be a misunderstanding of 4:54 . So no the imports where not blocked, just the British government made a policy that "any Maize purchased come from _British_ merchants " Nothing shown here is contradictory of Laissez-faire economics. There is no contradiction.

@jeric_synergy8581

5 жыл бұрын

Protect the "free" market-- fixed if for you. By which he meant "the fixed market of English merchants".

Thank GOD yall still make these videos. They literally get me through hard times and long hours. I want to donate to your cause because Ive learned more binging in a month, than I have in college. I check behind y'all for factual integrity and it's solid.

British parliament: the Irish need to learn to compete in the free market Also British parliament: BUT IF YOU BUY AMERICAN MAIZE HOW WILL WE MAKE MONEY?!

Blight, Trevelyan, the government being awful and self serving....why am I getting Dragon Age flashbacks??

@alexandersturnn4530

5 жыл бұрын

With the only difference that DAI's Inquisitor Trevelyan - at least mine - was unquestionably a Hero. Unlike this Bastard.

@alexandersturnn4530

5 жыл бұрын

@Rick K Yup, me too.

@ginganinja2872

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't pick the human origin in DAI because I hated the name Trevelyan lol. You can blame this fucker for that.

@jaegercat6702

5 жыл бұрын

Yes! Yes! Yes!

@biohazard724

5 жыл бұрын

@Rick K You know how the Emerald Graves got its name right?

WAIT THE FAIRIES GOT TO MIDGARD AGAIN.

@hondoohnakaproductions

5 жыл бұрын

The fairies are always messing with crap

@iamcuthulu316

5 жыл бұрын

Wrong religion buddy.

@cudwieser3952

5 жыл бұрын

@@iamcuthulu316 Not exactly...Dublin is Nordic for a start and Irish history is known to play fast and loose with fairytales. When the Norsemen came they didn't so much conquer as become Irish and myths and tales began to share a commonality. Midgard my not be Irish but our legends are just as fantastical.

@robertmacdonald6527

5 жыл бұрын

Colum Peel That's a stretch. The fairies are originally an idea out of Irish polytheism, not Norse. They're similar to the wights in Anglo-Saxon folklore.

@cudwieser3952

5 жыл бұрын

@@robertmacdonald6527 Not disputing what your saying, but Irish folklore is known to be somewhat morphic and inspired by some outside influence. As you highlighted there is comparason with the English and Germans, known trade partners.

10:15 "Donations came from as far away as Australia." Spot-on visual gag there, guys. Spot. On.

"SCRAMBLE THE FAIRIES!" "Sir, we could've blown the bridge without scrambling the fairies." "I LIKE TO SCRAMBLE THE FAIRIES! ".

Me: They won't put ANOTHER subtle joke in a video series about famine. Extra Credits: *Turns the Australian guy upsidedown* Me: Wow famine is hilarious

@nathanseper8738

5 жыл бұрын

I don't get the "upside down" joke about Australia.

What. The. Hell.

@drelezar7745

3 жыл бұрын

The hell is Ireland during this time

This series keeps breaking my heart. History is often a monstrous thing, but the extreme dearth of compassion shown in this time is one of the greatest tragedies, perhaps in the worst 500 even (there have been a great many tragedies).

My god, this is the most depressing bit of history I have ever heard of. Dios mio...

you guys should do the Meiji restoration at some point

@cudwieser3952

5 жыл бұрын

Or the Yayoi Period as well. In the west we don't reflect on BC history much further east than Persia and even then China is given a glossing.

@strangeyoungman

5 жыл бұрын

Patreon patrons get to deliberate on this.

I love the outro music for this series

@justinian-the-great

5 жыл бұрын

Me too. It somehow expresses the tragedy that happened.

A short video series on Rhodesia and the bush wars would be lovely

@hughjanos3992

Жыл бұрын

its Zimbabwe get it right you melvin

Once again, I'm struck to tears - a tragedy enough in the hands of ineptitude with Peel, made magnitudes harsher and utterly crueler by setting the fox in the henhouse. Having someone so hostile to Irish people in charge of their salvation is simply abhorrent. Trevelyan has the blood of ages on his wretched hands, for he was complicit, not only in the deaths of those reliant on him for help, but on the following generations driven to strife and war by the ill feelings generated by the Great Famine. God damn Trevelyan, and may his name live forever in infamy!

Horrific on so many levels... And the non-African ancestry I have were survivors of the Irish famine...

@ciarangrimes7912

5 жыл бұрын

Deanna Jackson Africa and Ireland, brothers in their shite treatment from England

@DeannaJacksonDJsDelectables

5 жыл бұрын

@@ciarangrimes7912 Very true.

@treeaboo

5 жыл бұрын

@joseaca Add the Scotland, Wales, and the English working class of the time into that mix and you've got the ultimate combo

@DeannaJacksonDJsDelectables

5 жыл бұрын

@joseaca I'm childfree by choice, so they're going to have to deal with death glares from my cat. 😂

@peterkrothotkin8700

5 жыл бұрын

@@DeannaJacksonDJsDelectables Welsh cat, problem solved

As an Irish man I want to thank extra credits for the lot of us for bring this tragic time in our history to the world as it is often over looked in the education systems of countries outside Ireland.

After hearing about what my ancestors went through. I feel so grateful for what I have. The things I complain about, are nothing to what they dealt with. They had babies during the famine, and somehow survived long enough to escape to America. I had no idea how bad it really was.

For you stole trevelyn's corn So the young might see the morn

@TheFireaster

5 жыл бұрын

Conor Donohoe LOWWWWWW LIEEEEEEEE THE FIELDS

@meevil24

5 жыл бұрын

Damn, that's deep

@SpoopySquid

5 жыл бұрын

Now a prison ship lays waiting in the bay

@rafisw160

5 жыл бұрын

TheFireaster of Athenry, where once we watch the small free birds fly

@bencobey9973

5 жыл бұрын

Low Lie The Fields Of Athenry

It's so disgraceful that I've heard friends of mine, fellow Irishmen, callously say ' they should have turned to fishing'. Obviously my friends have never been hungry before or they would know that most people aren't parasites and would do anything to end the hunger.

@placeholderdoe

Жыл бұрын

Just eat food

I'm Irish. Super cool to see this part of my history so well told! Nice job

I look at this and wonder, what did the lawmakers and leaders expect? They saw the poor, the starving, the destitute and decided that it was their own fault and expected things not to get worse without them giving aid?

During the Famine, the Ottoman Sultan sent money and 5 ships of food to Ireland. The British tried to block the ships (probably out of fear of international embarrassment), but they went anyway.

@rgogstad

5 жыл бұрын

This is just a myth, much like the famous one about the Sultan not being allowed to donate £10.000. Foreign aid ships were allowed in, but the holdup was that the grain could not be distributed until properly screened for grain blight. Had Ireland been hit by a grain blight on top of the potato blight the entire island would have died.

@vatsal7640

5 ай бұрын

A well known myth btw.

Promotes laissez faire economics... Doesn't let American Grain come in... I think something is wrong with that.

@nonya_bidness

5 жыл бұрын

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@mikeyunovapix7181

5 жыл бұрын

I understand that Britain was still a bit sore about the American revolution but there is no shame in asking for help when there is famine.

I can't say it enough, I love the outro music for this one!

Hearing about how Native Americans and even actual slaves donated funds as famine relief to Ireland really reminded me of a very recent event this year. Rohingya refugees in Cox's Bazaar managed to round up funding and even supplies for earthquake-hit Turkey. Some even went to the point of exchanging their own prized, personal valuables to support this cause. In spite of their poor living conditions and economic languishment in the camps, they went out of their way to show unfathomable kindness for their fellow Turks, as they were reminded of same suffering and unimaginable loss from when they fled Myanmar just five years ago. They did it not just for their religion alone, but as return for when Turkish charities stepped in to provide aid for fleeing Rohingya then. Societies and ideals change overtime, but never for the human spirit. In spite of what the past and present may otherwise imply, human empathy and kindness has always been there to unite even the most different of groups, and will continue doing so further. For every monster we lament about, we have to remember the sheer number of whole-hearted people that outnumber them.

As someone from skibbereen, the famine is still everywhere you go

@lyca0n535

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the famine,1916 and the rebellion seem to still left their scars on the country to this day around leinster aswell.

@apathosanhr435

5 жыл бұрын

what do you mean?

@MultiYogibear

5 жыл бұрын

@@apathosanhr435 the heritage center in the town is mostly about the famine and a little about the nearby lake. And most plaques you see around town are of the famine

@Rainb0wzNstuff

5 жыл бұрын

That depressing

@MultiYogibear

5 жыл бұрын

@@Rainb0wzNstuff one of things I remember most is the amount of space everyone got in the workhouses, it was 1 metre squared to sleep

I literally cannot get enough of Extra History. This channel rules.

Ok these videos consistently suceed in making me cry.

Thank god for the generosity of strangers; without it my people would be gone and forgotten.