Fantastic peek into CATL, thank you & the Fully Charged Show team for persevering and making this happen. The technology, automation & scale of this factory is astounding!

Better than a BBC documentary on the topic

@johnsmith-cw3wo

3 ай бұрын

BBC would be more like: ''China is collapsing any day now... because they are communist or something''

@beneric4851

3 ай бұрын

There are so many China collapsed. Which China is the next?​@@johnsmith-cw3wo

That was cool, very well done Elliot plus all the team, and a big thank you to CATL for allowing it. I was also quite stunned to see a super dense 500 Wh/kg battery too. I've only been expecting that kind of power density from Silicon Anode batteries. Would love to learn more about that please 🙏🏻

@stefanweilhartner4415

3 ай бұрын

as far as i know they didn't release details about their 511Wh/kg battery. and longevity might still be a problem, or maybe a very expensive manufacturing process.

This was like the battery version of visiting the Wonka Factory, Charlie! Very cool... Especially with those two other battery types on display... A cheap every-person's car battery in the sodium-ion form and aviation battery that will unlock cheaper and cleaner regional aviation! Well done, CATL! You truly are the world changing company we'd all hope you'd be!

@kushalraj93

4 ай бұрын

This is the exact analogy that came to my mind!

@chillfluencer

3 ай бұрын

CATL is halving the price of its LFP batteries by mid 2024. And: do you think the development ends here? Of course the energy density of Sodium-Ion batteries will ramp up while the cost goes down even more. A comparable BEV model to an ICE will only cost about 1/4th. But eventually Robotaxis will shrink the overall amount of cars on the streets. This will be the real disruption. I personally am too lazy to have a car and can't wait to be driven around.

Actually, in Hungary, they just started to build the factory, it is not operational yet. It is in my hometown, Debrecen. As a side note, BMW is also about to complete a car factory here in Debrecen and they will produce electric cars only here.

Been there. The estate the CATL HQ (plus an enormous SAIC compound 2km away that's been pumping out MG4s straight to the port down the road, and an increasing number of battery and auto parts suppliers) sits on didn't exist before 2008. All were built upon reclaimed land. Locals only began land reclamation for cultivation in the early 1990s, when the city of Ningde was a backwater, anonymous fishing town, with no other but Xi Jingping serving as the local party chief (who is usually the one in charge, instead of the mayor). Today it's among the fastest growing municipalities in China, albeit still small by Chinese standard. Takeaway here is manufacturing takes decades of dedicated work. It's not as easy as pass a law and pushing a button.

@HermanWillems

4 ай бұрын

Hu Jintao was better than Xi Jinping though you agree right ?

@postahundredcommentsbutonl4408

3 ай бұрын

@@HermanWillems As long as China's leaders continue to adhere to Confucian collectivism and a commodity economy, China's urbanization and industrialization movement will continue. Whether it is Deng Xiaoping or today's Xi Jinping, although they both claim to be Leninists, they are suppressing Leninists and Western liberals in private. Although this is a strange approach, it ensures that there will be no unrest in China.

@HermanWillems

3 ай бұрын

@@postahundredcommentsbutonl4408 nah there is a limit to that. As innovation u really need free spirit and free thinking not limited by government.

@postahundredcommentsbutonl4408

3 ай бұрын

@@HermanWillems Western liberalism = innovation? Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore, who graduated first in the Cambridge Law Department, would faint from laughter at your words. After World War II, only Confucian areas completed urbanization and industrialization. Why? (Even Western countries themselves completed urbanization and industrialization through colonial plunder) South Korea, Hong Kong and Taiwan have tried their best to cater to Western liberalism since the 1990s, but as a result, they have stagnated in development? Why does Singapore, which has always adhered to Confucian collectivism, continue to develop rapidly? Singapore is the country most opposed to Western liberalism in the world. Every law enacted by Mr. Lee Kuan Yew is in conflict with Western liberalism. Singapore even bans firecrackers and chewing gum. In Singapore, if you stick chewing gum to public facilities, you will be caned. In Singapore, selling 15g of drugs is punishable by death. Compare Western countries and Singapore. Is there such a possibility. The decline of the West today is caused by Western liberalism itself.

@rodrigomiranda2432

3 ай бұрын

​@@HermanWillems CATL, Huawei, BYD, Comac, SMIC, solar energy, quantum computing, industrial automation, high speed rail, superconductors... China is leading everywhere you look

Elliott, that was amazing. It makes the videos Tesla release on the 4680 production look basic. Well done for persevering to gain access. 👏👏

CATL, the King of EV Battery. Finally see the factory. Thanks Fully Charged Team =)

Wow! Great look inside a CATL plant. Since there are a number of these planned for around the world, it is good to see what they look like!

2:38 Great Video and congrats on getting access to such a secretive industry! Just a small correction: it’s not magnesium that goes into the battery but manganese. Small but important difference! 😁

@ahaveland

4 ай бұрын

I noticed that too, but these are LiFePo₄ cells - there's no manganese in these either, as far as I know.

@logicalChimp

4 ай бұрын

@@ahaveland From the sounds of it, the factory can change which type of cell they're making each day, and CATL still make NMC cells, I think

Wow that is amazing Elliot! Can't imagine the paperwork and red tape you had to go through to get in to film inside CATL but am so glad they did allow you amazing place and guessing their other factories are very similar to their main one in China.

Interesting video. My thanks to Fully Charged and CATL

Fascinating episode, and brilliant work by Elliot to line this up. CATL will take some catching.

Wow. How the heck did he get clearance to get into CATL.

@sodiumhexacyanoferrate1452

4 ай бұрын

Chinese companies probably want more exposure in western media so he may have been paid by the government.

@t.g.2777

4 ай бұрын

It's free propaganda for them 😂

@sodiumhexacyanoferrate1452

4 ай бұрын

@@t.g.2777hmmmmmm i cant see my comment anymore 😆

@t.g.2777

4 ай бұрын

​@@sodiumhexacyanoferrate1452did you comment same thing I'm guessing?

@oBCHANo

4 ай бұрын

The CCP propaganda arm decided it would be good PR and gave it the greenlight.

Congrats to this superb documentation! You are the man!

Wow, the storage room is huge! Interesting vid and well edited.

Love the editing. Congrats to whoever did this! Give them a raise! The beginning especially was really nice :) The whole production in fact is great!

Correction for 3:08 14 microns sound about correct by comparing to human hair. 0.14 micron is a hundred times smaller.

@mumblic

3 ай бұрын

He probably meant 0.14 mm = 140 microns

@Sekir80

3 ай бұрын

@@mumblic 14 microns is pretty much on point as half the width of human hair. Mine was 40 microns when I was young; now as age decreases it, it's probably thinner. Oh, you know what? I'll measure it right now! Interesting: only 4 microns seems too low, but that's the number now. According to Wolfram alpha the average is between 18 and 80 microns.

Fascinating episode! It always bedazzles me to peek inside such factories. So much automation, such incredible machines! Now, I think my Powerwalls have 2170 cells inside them, manufactured by CATL? I figured they were built at the Gigafactory by Panasonic. Silly me?

@4literv6

4 ай бұрын

The new powerwall3 is using catl prismatic lfp cells, all others are Panasonic 2170s I thought?

Awesome video, best since his BYD factory tour

Wow talk about a peek into the future! 😮 Amazing work getting permission to film here FCS! 🤩🙏

amazing view, thank you

Very nice to see the level of automation and a stranger parts vibe

Great content Elliot. Very interesting 😊

Very impressive!

Ningde is where President Xi Jinping previous served as a city chief, CATL is one of his brain children of developing local manufacturing industry. Though western MSM is constantly portraying him a dictator, the truth is every China's top leader starts to lead a village, then a town, then a city than a province finally the nation. This process takes a man 30-40 years to upscaling his knowledge, managing capacity, political skills and loyalty of serving his people.

@reginald7214

3 ай бұрын

Yep.

Was the little gold box a solid state battery ? The prospect of a sodium based battery is exciting. Thank you for the tour.

@Mobile_Dom

4 ай бұрын

no it's their ultra high density (and higher cost) dense batteries they're looking at using for aircraft, still NMC as far as we're aware

@gaobili

4 ай бұрын

semi-solid, electrolyte inside is a jelly-like gel

@HermanWillems

4 ай бұрын

nah just high energy dense NCM. (The battery that NOBODY cares about though, i mean we want to get away from NCM they are worse for the enviornment.) The Natrium-Ion batteries and the LFP batteries is where the game is at. Nobody cares about the energy density at high price. Everybody cares about the price per kWh.

@stefanweilhartner4415

3 ай бұрын

@@HermanWillems high price is not a show stopper for aviation. like pipistrel or lillium etc. but they don't use CATL.

Seems like quite a scoop, thank you Elliot great video. Did they perhaps give an idea of where their power comes from to run the operation? They must be looking for economies and efficiencies.

Wow. Amazingly good. Did you ask around the production quality of these cells. I wonder how much Does the capacity and resistance vary from cell to cell?

Thanks CATL for innovation

@johnsmith-cw3wo

3 ай бұрын

the communists STOLE the technology from THE WEST !

Fascinating video. Hats off to CATL giving access

In at least some of those shots, I get the impression there's a couple of nervous handlers just off-camera who have said things like, "put your feet there --- yes, right there --- don't move --- and don't _touch anything!"_

Great job Elliot.

Awesome video. I like how it's all robots and machines and then at the end for shipping it's a bored looking guy loading em into the packing.

Wow! Wow! And Wow again!..and one more Wow - because you're worth it Elliot! In both gaining access to such a facility, and in the way you filmed it (especially your genuine excitement on entering the baking room) Thank You! 👏

Brilliant Video

I do like a "how it's made!"- fun to see the full clean suit of the visitor's badge. I just get a badge with a red outline - Elliot is in yellow 😊

just very glad this is Elliot and not Greg Wallace inside the factory!

Very interesting stuff

CATL is not only big but also high quality. CATL hard to find their batteries in many stores. if they are available, the CATL batteries are more expensive than any other brand.

Amazing!

Awesome!

Also kudos to the team for making sure Elliot was pointing to the right video at the end.

I'd dispute the fact that it is the world's 'most secret' battery factory given that you have filmed it and distributed on KZread. I know some one who is making batteries in their spare bedroom, he hasn't told anyone else but me.

@lievenvv

4 ай бұрын

So not the most secret either ☝️

@patreekotime4578

4 ай бұрын

Well, unless you consider hallways and the sides of machine enclosures 'industrial secrets' I think it's safe to say they are pretty secretive. Especially when smaller companies looking for investors will do tours and explain all of the steps and show their proprietary machinery on camera doing all kinds of proprietary things.

@reginald7214

3 ай бұрын

😂😆

We just got a bettery factory in my city, allways thought it was so big. But now i see that Catl cafeteriais probably bigger then our entire battery factory lol

@thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513

3 ай бұрын

LOL, we do have some big factories here in China which is probably bigger than a city.

Amazing gift🎉

First of all.. It is not Magnesium what the batteries use. It is Manganese. ;)

@najibyarzerachic

4 ай бұрын

M3P has manganesium as well I believe

Great video. Seeing all the advancements in battery technology, it will be possible to rely full time on solar and wind power. EVs will be cheap enough and reliable enough to replace ICE cars. Bravo!

I love your videos.

dannng, im amazed!

Excellent video, but I would really like to see how they are producing solid state technology, presumably that walk the gold aeroplane one in the segment

@PaulNaybour

3 ай бұрын

I agree the gel batteries we have today are quite old technology dating from the 1990s; versions such as solid-state could be a huge step forward.

7:05 The bacon room, you say? You have my attention!

Getting these things to scale is very important

I don't know how you managed to persuade CATL to allow you in to see their manufacturing capabilities but I found this fascinating - well done you! CATL are clearly a world superpower when it comes to batteries and their products are astonishing. The scale of their operation is staggering and they are clearly innovating at a speed few, if any other countries in the world, can compete with.

@williamwatitwa3534

4 ай бұрын

Now tomorrow someone will ban them for national security threat, and other stories

@williamwatitwa3534

4 ай бұрын

Now tomorrow someone will ban them for national security threat, and other stories

@williamwatitwa3534

4 ай бұрын

Now tomorrow someone will ban them for national security threat, and other stories

@williamwatitwa3534

4 ай бұрын

Now tomorrow someone will ban them for national security threat, and other stories

@williamwatitwa3534

4 ай бұрын

Now tomorrow someone will ban them for national security threat, and other stories

I believe CATL batteries are in my 2023 model 3 SR

@HermanWillems

4 ай бұрын

SR does not get made anymore since many years. You mean RWD probably? But yes the rear wheel drives. (not all there are also Long Range with RWD but they are rare) But i also have a Tesla Model 3 RWD from 2022 and they have these batteries. (LFP ones)

@skepticalmechanic

4 ай бұрын

@@HermanWillems SR stands for Standard Range

Ekonomis of *scale* at work right there

Toyota take note, they don’t live in the never never. 😁 Battery recycling is going to be a huge industry in twenty years. More power no pun intended to CTL in the R&D of new breakthroughs. Huge credit I remember this guy sitting in the back of a EV in his first clip and you can see the confidence and presentation skills that he has gained, a credit to the channel.

@jamesphillips2285

4 ай бұрын

Toyota got burned by Texaco buying up the EV-1 NiMH battery patents. Chevron then bought Texaco and sued Panasonic, the supplier of batteries for the RAV4 EV. It had a 20kW generating trailer in development. The Electric RAV4 with the generating trailer was more fuel efficient than the gasoline RAV4.

@alfrredd

4 ай бұрын

Toyota and Japan is 15 years behind China when it comes to electric vehicle production, battery development, etc.

@patreekotime4578

4 ай бұрын

​@@jamesphillips2285That was over 20 years ago... and a decade before the founding of CATL. Think about that a minute. A company that didn't even exist when the Tesla Model S came out is now the world's biggest battery manufacturer. Toyota has had plenty of time.

@jamesphillips2285

4 ай бұрын

@@patreekotime4578 IMO using hundreds of commodity 18650 cells was a patent work-around on Tesla's part. The did crazy things like a add a rigid case and cooling lines. They used the coolant to prevent hotspots and keep the battery in a safer operating range for both hot and cold outside temperatures. The Nissan Leaf, released about 3 years after the Roadster, was much simpler in comparison. It used larger "pouch" cells in a passively cooled case. The winter package included 300W of heating to maintain the pack at ~-28C.

@patreekotime4578

4 ай бұрын

@@jamesphillips2285 Tesla was the first company to put laptop style lithium ion battery cells into a car. It was their whole entire identity. It wasn't any kind of patent workaround... it was literally all that was available in 2002. The LEAF battery likely wasnt even developed until after the Model S was already really far along in development. And then look what happened to it... those 'simple' batteries failed alot exactly because they lack active cooling. Not sure how you think that is more advanced??

期待来更多的中国探厂视频❤

where to buy these?

I'll take 5,000 of those... and those.... and oh those too please! 😃👍

Incredible I the UK government supported engineering like that. ❤

Impresive

amazing

Too much promotion and not enough content.

Great technology. Hope they can also spend effort to find a way to detect fire risk and trigger fast emergency dispatch of removable battery evergo before any risk of damage to the car and human.😊

Thought he said that they had a 'bacon room'. I got all exited.

@reginald7214

3 ай бұрын

😂😆

Great upload. Being coy on the battery density of that Sodium pack. Impressive production facility.

37% market share. 270 Doctors working in RnD. 500 WH/KG. Just mind buggling numbers. I'm truly excited about the future that is lead by China.

Too bad they didn't really let them see more of the details, but great video as always!

Danke für das lehrreiche Video. Aber in der Nähe von Halbzeugen die in einer elektrochemischen Einrichtung als aktiv beteiligte Protukte eingesetzt werden, ist lautes sprechen und starke Gestig nicht sehr gut auf den Reinheitswert der Atmosphäre wirkend. Ein Nahmikrophon und ein Arbeitsschutzkophörer dre das eigen Sprachsignal in der richtigen Ausseuerungsstärke widergibt und die Umgebungsgeräusche aus dem Umfeldbereich reduzieren kann, wäre hier die jouranlistich ideale technische Grundausstattung. SJVD/M******* Michael Frithjof Müller

You’ve got very good funding. Use it for good.

Seemed odd that with all automation that they had an individual at the end of the video packing cells one at a time into an expanded plastic frame.

@logicalChimp

4 ай бұрын

Probably because Elliot said that all cells are inspected manually - and it's likely easier to then pass the cell to someone else to pack, rather than put it in the right place (and with the right orientation etc) every time for a machine to pick up and pack.

Im really interested to know how CATL stacks up against LG, Panasonic and samsung. Very interesting video, thats for sure. But one question I have, is how do they assemble these cells without the lithium metal reacting in the air?

@farmers740

Ай бұрын

磷酸铁锂电池里没有锂单质，是化合物😅

Cool😊

Homer Simpson: MMMM, Bacon Room!

Most secret factory . . . .open their doors for every visitor and all KZreadrs. 😂

500Wh/kg? That's insane. One of the best you can buy these days is NCR17650GA at around 250Wh/kg. But then you can actually buy it, stuff from the video is sci-fi at the moment.

I want to see that stacking machine

Cool.

Super important.

0:9 magnesium? way to start Bob

500Wh/kg wow

I would like to see where the power comes from for all this. That is an important factor in how 'green' a battery or a car is. They do seem to have solar panels, but there must be other power sources. I don't mean to be critical. China is transitioning from fossil fuel to renewables just like everywhere else. But in the here and now, which battery supplier I prefer in my car depends substantially on how green their production is and what their plans are to improve sustainability.

How big has Fully Charged become???

Maybe 3D printing will play a larger and larger role.

Looks very impressive, is there anyone as advanced as them in Europe or is everyone very far behind?

@timmurphy5541

4 ай бұрын

I don't think "advanced" is perhaps the right term. There are people in Europe with advanced designs but quite often they won't be able to commercialise a design as quickly because CATL is a huge company. I think that any design which can use their existing machines is going to be sold in volume by CATL quite quickly. If it requres different machinery then they'll have less advantage.

@artboymoy

4 ай бұрын

@@timmurphy5541 Much like advances in solar panel technology. Some of the newer innovations to be proposed are like adding a layer of peroskite cells on top of existing panels or prism type layers to focus more light.

@HermanWillems

4 ай бұрын

There are many battery makes in Europe. But not as much as in Asia. For example Leclanche, NorthVolt etc. They both make their own cells.

Nice video.

How come fully charged is still using a twitter logo?

So how many Whatt hours per kilogram of power was in that cheaper sodium battery?! 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

I too, like to get baked before moving on to the next stage.

How to make a Chinese firefighter , complete with containments as deposited by the nutter in the slurry room which is normally done in a partial vacuum.

3:09 you mean 0.14 mm not 0.14 micron?

Now the Britt look at the chinese how to make a battery. Isn't it odd? 😂

this will be in Hungary with the BYD factory

The factory in Hungary is not yet ready.

Going green should also include the part where the batteries will be recycled. Being 'baked' feels like it will be close to impossible or very expensive.

@fullychargedshow

3 ай бұрын

It's worth googling 'Redwood Materials' for genuine information about battery recycling. They are already recycling thousands of tons of old laptop, phone and powertool batteries and selling the resulting material to tesla to make new batteries. Baking the materials isn't an issue as I undersatnd it.

So what does CATL stand for? What is the significance of "Z" in the factory name? What does it look like where the raw minerals and metals are entering this factory?

Nice video. Only thing, battery swap in just one minute? The whole process is longer. Where I am in the US they will run into issues...it will be about -17 c in a couple days here. Run a snowy, ice covered, and road salt encrusted car into a swap center and I highly doubt the battery will be swapped in a minute. Then what will all that corrosive salt do to that swap center's equipment over time? I'd like to see a report on a change center working in such conditions or poor conditons. Everything I see done about them is in good conditions.

0.14 microns is 360x thinner than the width of a human hair, not 2x.

@caseydbani1419

4 ай бұрын

Must be inch

@logitech4873

4 ай бұрын

@@caseydbani1419 He said microns. Not inches.

18k people at RnD, impressive but still far away from us, we have more than 115k people at RnD alone then about 90k people more 😅

@najibyarzerachic

4 ай бұрын

Us?

@williamwatitwa3534

4 ай бұрын

Clearly they arent as effective then