I do so love experiencing a true expert at work. Euan cantering through an idiots guide to all these different options at pace but with the depth of knowledge to bring it to life. Like watching a concert orchestra or consummate actor etc. Brilliant

@georgepelton5645

5 ай бұрын

Well said.😀

@deanmcmanis9398

5 ай бұрын

Yes, it was really nicely done. Thorough and understandable. Kudos!

Loving the detail. I feel like a video like this should be made every year to keep up with developments.

@JamesSmith-qs4hx

5 ай бұрын

Says Paul Clarke the Virtue Signaller 🤨

@Alessandro---

5 ай бұрын

My thoughts precisely. The way each topic was described should allay the FUDding coming from information with an agenda. There I am thinking about the LiPO cells for my first drone, puffing wildly after 20 cycles. Another great video by Imogen and the Fully Charged team.

I love Euan McTurk, he has a massive understanding of all things battery, but he makes it simple to understand. Someone that knows his subject and can explain it is just amazing. Interesting information and small tweaks to the battery technology is adding miles to our use. Thank you.

What is needed more than a 1,000 mile battery are charging stations with clean, well maintained washrooms. Trying to find a bush to hide behind at a charging station is just not providing the service that is required. Canada, especially western Canada, is extremely remiss in this regard. Even most of the gas stations have poorly maintained washrooms.

@Ryan-ff2db

5 ай бұрын

You are absolutely correct and it perplexes me it took this long for travel centers and convenience stores to start adopting charges. It's definitely moving in that direction now, but they(charging companies) should have been making deals from the beginning. Maybe it was a chicken and egg thing, but now we have essentially all the major players jumping on board, at least in the States. Canada's a bit trickier because you guys have an awful lot of open land up there and sometimes big gaps in services. Dog River needs a charging station.

@ellieban

5 ай бұрын

With enough CCS rapid charges for the number of cars that need to charge and A PLACE TO BUY A COFFEE! Honestly, put a coffee shop in and it will probably cover the cost of the electricity. Why is this so hard for the UK?!?! Other countries have done it!

@Ryan-ff2db

5 ай бұрын

@@ellieban I agree and that is exactly how gas stations work today. They typically only make between 2 to 8 cents per gallon of gas profit. The bigger profits are from people buying things in there shops. The margins on those items are usually in the 25 to 50 percent margin, which is were they actually make their profits, not gas.

@chrisdaigle5410

5 ай бұрын

I think that combining a charging station along common routes like Interstate highways where you can stop for a charge, get lunch or a doughnut and coffee would make sense. But also at common places where you spend time when you stop like grocery stores, libraries, movies and other service areas could be a value-added feature for those places and a little extra income for the business.

@bjsimpson4768

5 ай бұрын

Not seeing the changes at convenience stores here in Arkansas either.

Can't beat a thorough explanation by the Prof & somehow even numpties like me can more or less understand it😁 Nice job guys 👍

Well said Euan and Imogen! Refreshing to hear such clarity spoken about the underlying sciences, engineering, and societal/application challenges. Factual and informative 👏

As a caravan enthusiast, where towing a caravan will typically halve the range of an EV, it is essential to have 5-600 mile ranges (250 - 300 with caravan). Also charging stations which accommodate cars with trailers.

@0Aus

5 ай бұрын

​@@retiredbore378no stress we already have the appropriate solution.

@stevezodiac491

5 ай бұрын

​​@@0Ausyes, so do i, a diesel with a 650 mile range, either my campervan diesel that can tow 350 miles or so, for a 7.5 metre 4 berth fixed bed, or my Mercedes E Class diesel, that can do the same. Petrol stations are designed properly as well, to re-fuel in through put quickly and efficiently and in the dry. EV's are just an inferior product doomed to the dust bin of history, along with betamax tape recorders, the same as the time wasting, unreliable and poorly designed charging infrastructure.

@0Aus

5 ай бұрын

@@stevezodiac491 my solution is a diesel vehicle. As for range Additional fuel. My current touring vehicle is good for 2600 kilometres. No battery car will carry 5.6t across Australia.

@0Aus

5 ай бұрын

@@retiredbore378 you say niche, lol not in Australia.

@0Aus

4 ай бұрын

@@retiredbore378 how's Detroit looking??😀

Euan talks so much sense, let’s stop seeking the maximum range possible and factor in what endurance the driver has, and then when we have our Wizz break, it’ll have sufficient range when we get back in the driver seat.

@BenjaminSignor

5 ай бұрын

no he doesnt, quoted statistics have no references to studies. Comments on 1000 mile battery not needed, for many perhaps not, but some countries yes. Plus the transition to EV would be easier if the need to fill up every 250 - 300 miles wasnt a requirement, this would reduce the need for public charging, which appears to be an issue in many many places.

Euan's point right towards the end of the video was by far the most important. A charging network is always going to be infinitely more important than range itself - in the same way that it doesn't matter if your car's got a small petrol tank because you just fill up a couple times. Charges at destinations plus solving the mystery of chargers for those without driveways is the biggest hurdle.

@lordmord8378

5 ай бұрын

In 2023 16.3% of the ~2million new car sales were BEV. If the government wants to achieve its 2035 target of 100% zero emission vehicles then we will have a lot more electric vehicles on the road. Until we get to the point where either range and destination charging undermine the need for mass volume en route charging stations, or charging times are closer in parity to refuelling an ICE vehicle, we would need a completely unsustainable number of en route chargers. This is neither practical nor desirable. The bigger push in my mind needs to be a focus on range, destination charging and fast-charging speeds.

@Adam.Piper62

5 ай бұрын

@@lordmord8378 If you can get a full charge in less than 10 minutes, then we can just turn petrol stations into chargers...problem solved as it would be like normal.

My view is that 1000 mile battery is not needed in any use case. Here in North America, we focus a lot on trucks that travel long distances without stopping, but the reality is that if the fuel, i.e. electricity, is significantly cheaper than diesel, there is a good economic argument that stopping for a recharge is not an issue. I would pay the driver for the 30-60 minutes in exchange for the lower cost. Furthermore, stopping more often would be better for the drivers and for road safety. That is so true that it's the law in many countries.

@getoffamylan6844

5 ай бұрын

Anything more than 300 miles is reaching a point of diminishing returns for anything other than over-the-road truckers. In fact, given the choice of over 300 miles, I would rather stop at 300 and trade the extra battery for a roomier, lighter, cheaper vehicle.

@oorya1780

4 ай бұрын

@@getoffamylan6844 Depends on what you do. I travel all over England and Wales filming EFL football matches. I have to arrive at a specific time and cannot risk being late so I dare not take the risk that I wouldn't be able to find a vacant charging station that is working then spend God knows how long waiting to charge an EV. I currently drive an estate car that when fully filled up gives me a range of 650 miles. Also not forgetting that a large enough EV car with a long enough range that can take my equipment and passengers would probably cost at least 2 or 3 times what I paid for my current car. And before anyone comes on and says driving long distances I need to stop then I do for short breaks but the driving is done by 2 of us. So at the moment EVs are not a solution for me.

@myfiller269

4 ай бұрын

The problem is the EV truck starts out with 300 miles of theoretical range but it is cut in half as soon as you hitch a trailer up to it. That is why people want a 500+ range EV truck as the starting range

This video is an excellent overview of battery chemistry and research. Imogen asks the important questions, with no fluff or side trips. Dr McTurk does a fantastic job, with accurate and very clear and understandable answers. Hats off to Dr. McTurk and the Fully Charged Team!

Canadian here. Good point on how much easier it is to install charging infrastructure than develop a 1000 mile battery. That said, a battery that could do 600km in -30 degree weather would be a game changer for remote areas. I’m hoping that ONE’s Gemini will get us there.

@francesconicoletti2547

5 ай бұрын

Or perhaps only instal half of that 1000 mile battery. If it’s one of the advanced chemistries that battery would make for a lighter and more manoeuvrable car.

@BobHannent

5 ай бұрын

Given that the majority of journeys don't need that range, perhaps the answer is to rent an additional battery that goes in the trunk? Or simply just rent a long range vehicle for those occasional trips. Of course there will be a minority of folk who regularly drive 600km, but the market can look to support them.

@uproid

5 ай бұрын

I think that everyone in the EV industry is missing the point when they say we don't need 1000 mile battery and we can just charge in our breaks. The fact is that here in the UK, it costs typically 10 TIMES more to charge at a public charging point than to charge at home on a cheap overnight tariff. I, and many other EV owners here, would love a 1000 mile range, so if I am away for several days, I can do the whole trip without being ripped off at public charging points, and then charge up again cheaply when I get home. Using public charge points, it is often more expensive that it would be to put fuel in a petrol or diesel car.

@jerrymyahzcat

5 ай бұрын

We need long range (1000km) batteries here in Australia.

@ADobbin1

5 ай бұрын

and it would have to fully charge in mins not hours.

Please provide references for some of the statistics like “EV batteries are 20-60 times less likely to catch fire than ICE”. This must be based on a study. Being able to reference a study really helps when trying to correct people making false statements about EV safety. Thanks again for all the great work.

@BenjaminSignor

5 ай бұрын

I am all for EV's, but anecdotal evidence points to that statistic being misleading. I would love to see the percentage data on EV fires to EV's on the road vs ICE Fires to ICE vehicles on the road. not to mentioned EV fires, despite what the interviewee said, are particularly nasty. The current battery technology using liquid electrolyte, is just not up to the task at the scale required for vehicles.

@Krydolph

5 ай бұрын

I think it is also just based on statistics. companies that manages big fleets of vehicles, insurance companies - they like to make statistics. And it is not that uncommon for a ICE vehicle to go up in fire, even though we almost never hear about it. And think about it, the motors get a lot hotter, there is actual fire and explosions out there, and besides the gas, there are other flammable things, and maybe the maintenance, isn't always the best. It is impressive it is as uncommon as it is after all. But sources are always good, specially if you have to convince someone that really don't want to listen to reason.

@jamesphillips2285

5 ай бұрын

@@KrydolphIf somebody does not want to listen to reason: they will hold their beliefs MORE STRONGLY in response to facts and figures. The human mind is weird. Is suspect the issue is that changing your mind on a subject may require a lot of re-evaluation. It is easier to just double-down.

@neilmick6778

5 ай бұрын

The Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency (MSB) has a study on this. I'd share a link but it won't let me. Pretty easy to find using a search engine though. Just search for "EV 20 times less likely to catch fire".

@robinwhitebeam3955

5 ай бұрын

Fire information is available online for EV, Hybrid , and ICE vehicles for the UK. I have seen many ICE vehicle fires, but not one EV .

Love the term “dwell time”. Those obsessing with long-haul truck range often ignore the fact that mandated rests are required of all truck drivers. In Europe, it is 4.5 hours, in Australia, with much greater distances involved, it is 5.5 hours, and in the U.S., it is 8 hours. The range of the Tesla Semi is 500 miles. It will be no coincidence that this just accommodates 8 hours of driving nicely. The speed of charging is also very relevant. The Australian mandated rest after 5.5 hours is just 15 minutes, so voila, the proposed truck Megachargers can poke in almost 200 miles in the “dwell time”. Incidentally, refuelling a diesel truck is considered to be driving time.

I now know more about battery chemistry than I could possibly ever need. Great video!

@glorfification

5 ай бұрын

Being misinformed is worse than being uninformed. (The people running this channel are both.)

@xxwookey

5 ай бұрын

@@glorfification What was wrong on this vid? Euan knows his stuff and I didn't see anything incorrect in what he said. Some significant simplifications, but that's fair enough for this audience. People can watch 'The Limiting Factor' if they want more detailed battery info in video form.

@usaverageguy

5 ай бұрын

@@glorfification I am reading your words. You are saying glorification is misinformed and uninformed. I agree.

@usaverageguy

5 ай бұрын

@@xxwookey glorification is a troll. Just looking to start an argument.

@markcayer4859

5 ай бұрын

@@glorfification Think your comment missed a few words there. Should be ... "The people running this channel are trying to avoid both situations"

longest range needed: 250 miles (400 kms), on the highway 20-80, so 400 miles 0-100%, 3 to 4 hour drive, with 1 hour pauze to recharge, eat, rest and go to the bathroom for travel. Also makes for one week range in most drivers everyday use. 50 miles per day is more then 80% of the people need. That way, vehicles can stay light and affordable, and a light vehicle will use less energy.

@Krydolph

5 ай бұрын

I kind of agree. But the ranges should be ACTUAL ranges, and not what they tell you, because that doesn't hold up.

Love it - Euan talking pure facts

Great video. This should be revisited once a year or every other year to see what's new. We may not have anything new to discuss since battery technology seems to stay in the development phase for so long. Hopefully something exciting happens.

Some amazing new battery tech coming.

Really good to see Euan on Fully Charged!

Great video. Nice to hear some clear explanations of the chemistry involved and the benefits of each one.

Great video. Absolutely fascinating.

Sodium for static storage is what we need enmasse

Amazing episode, very informative, very positive and with nice vision for future. Thanks!

Love listening to you and Euan. Great video! Super informative and very interesting to see what’s coming next. 👍

Loving the intro. Having started creating my own content recently I can’t help but notice how a video goes together. How it’s entertaining, while getting the message across. It was nice to summarise the progress we have made so far with battery tech. . . I know there is a lot of work involved in getting these videos out. So thank you

What a refreshing piece of entertainment. Calm and informative with a wee bit of fun. Thanks.

Really interesting informative episode, that guy really knows his stuff! 😎 Thanks for continuing to educate me FC! 🤩

it's not the frequency of fire that matter, but their incredible intensity, the lack of forerunner signals, the difficulty to put out electrical fires and don't forget the far from friendly fumes. A death trap that works less often, but when it works .. oh boy...

@pearsonfrank

5 ай бұрын

Errmmm Luton airport !! As Euan states if you watch the video those infrequent EV fires, if significant are SLOW burns not whooomppff - time to walk away

@Remarksman

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, this video avoids discussing how difficult it is to put out an EV fire by talking about the small odds of it occurring. Even low-frequency events DO occur, and I know the Phoenix, AZ Fire Dept. has talked about getting a shipping container half full of sand, dropping the burning EV into it, and then filling it with water and leaving it for a day just to ensure that the fire is really, completely, OUT. Apparently a number of “extinguished” EV fires re-kindled when being towed away from the roadside or sitting in junk yards. This is a legitimate concern that shouldn’t be dismissed with “it hardly ever happens”.

@sullivanrachael

3 ай бұрын

If EV fires were such an uncommon incidence; why are EVs expensive to insure?

Brilliant...thank you for making this one :) Cheers

Good content. It’s encouraging to hear about new developments with an accessible explanation. Thank you 😊

Awesome content. I love Imogen's shows. She can always present the most complex topics in a straightforward and understandable way. You rock Imogen!!

Many thanks - 24 minutes of all you need to know. Withe the physical chemistry nicely explained.

A brilliant video! What a clever bloke.

Fascinating! Euan is a great communicator and it's so nice to be treated to a video that doesn't patronise. And some nice shots of Oxford into the bargain!

Great video!

Excellent video, really informative!

These battery explanations are fascinating. Thanks

Put this dude in charge of power. He is brilliant and so informative I’ve learnt stuff and I’m in my 50’s.

Wow very insightful video, thank you

Brilliant interview. So interesting

Excellent video.

I love hearing Imogen trying to say 'polysulphide', making a hash of it, but keeping going without a pause. What a trooper! Thanks for the excellent and informative interview. 🙂👍

Aptera will eventually provide the range we all need through enhanced efficiency. The 400 mile version will be the first one produced, most likely in late 2024, then the 250 mile version, then the 600 and 800 mile versions.

Love this video 👍

This was very educational. Please do these regularly.

Good job Euan.

What would be really helpful is a running chart or spreadsheet comparing the different compositions of materials and their relative aspects of size, weight, density, etc.

Super interesting thanks 👍

This presentation is best example I have seen on the difference between battery chemistries. Thanks

Great Video!

The Bane of being an EV enthusiast is having to watch a diagram of how a battery works every time a new development is announced.

@fullychargedshow

5 ай бұрын

maybe we need a standalone "how a battery works" episode to point people towards 🧐

@bobtahoma

5 ай бұрын

If only someone would invent a skip button.

@glorfification

5 ай бұрын

@@fullychargedshow You think that people who understand every part of a car somehow don't know about batteries? Cars with combustion engines also have batteries. You learned something new today.

@jezlawrence720

5 ай бұрын

​@@fullychargedshowworth it, yes.

@lfo414

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, cos we so need a few more seconds of Dr. Wee Jock McSporen and his dodgy background...

So good!!

This was really good.

Great to know that catastrophic thermal runaways are not a concern.

Awesome video.

The most flammable is actually NCA, not NMC. But NMC and NCA aren't too far apart from each other whereas LiFePO4 (LFP) is in the weeds in terms of temperature rise rate during a failure. LFP is easily 100x safer than any other mainstream lithium chemistry.

@GreenJimll

5 ай бұрын

So I'm rather thankful that the 10 kWh of battery storage I have up in my attic is LFP based. 🙂

@junkerzn7312

5 ай бұрын

@@GreenJimll I've got a similar amount sitting in the garage, newly upgraded to 16s, but I have them in two sets of two batteries, each set on an Anderson quick disconnect with a pull rope. So if I need to pull them out of the garage all I have to do is pull hard on the rope and they will disconnect as they get pulled out. No messing with bolts or screw terminals in an emergency 😞 Not sure I would trust any lithium battery chemistry in my attic. On the other-hand, I do have a number of singular batteries sitting in my office for testing purposes. Easily man-handled, and there is a door right there to an outside deck, but no pull ropes or quick disconnects so that could be a bit problematic if something goes wrong. -Matt

@waynerussell6401

5 ай бұрын

Only Tesla use NCA in large quantities and their fire incidence is only .01%.

Impressive analysis of battery chemistry - I’m glad Imogen understands it. 😊👏👏

@johhny711

5 ай бұрын

The issue is not if they go on fire or not, it's what happens if they get caught up in a fire even if they are not the origin of the fire. Lithium Ion batteries pose a particular problem for fire departments because the battery itself can manufacture oxygen during the fire process ,exothermically. This is why car ferries are banning EVs, when ev's are caught up in a fire like on a car ferry they are impossible to extinguish at sea or almost impossible.

Very interesting indeed thanks

Very interesting video.

@jacksmith-mu3ee

4 ай бұрын

I am supporting chinese regime right now Why? Bcz u are ok with israel . 😆

He really knows his stuff!

This was super interesting.

Very interesting thank you

Excellent summary of today's battery tech and what we may be seeing tomorrow. Note also that grid/home batteries can benefit from a broader range of technologies, not just chemistries: Redox flow, thermal (water or salt based), etc. The Dutch (Triple Solar, Borg Energy Storage) especially seem to be focusing on cheap and efficient water-based solutions, mostly for heat storage and restitution, not electricity generation, with solar thermal panels, heat pumps, 7-day autonomy 4 m³ tanks, etc. We can also convert heat into electricity in summer, as solar heat production would be much higher than what's needed in winter for central heating. If using hybrid thermal+photovoltaic panels, that would also cool down the panels and make them more efficient.

Nice one Euan.

As long as the next gen batteries can do 250 miles on the motorway in winter, I do not need any more range. If it takes 30 minutes to charge from 10-80% in 30 minutes that is as fast as I need, that is about the same as loo break and coffee in a motorway service station. If the battery is also lighter and cheaper then that is a double win. As for home battery storage - sodium ion seems the way forward

really informative ... in the midst of "vague" technology news. Thanks.

In my country what I need is guaranteed (cold weather, heater on, lights on) 400 km range and up to 10 fast chargers distributed evenly. And charge points at destination is a must I believe. It would make life so much easier for people who don't have garage.

Campervan people can easily use 1000 mile batteries, not because they need to go 1000 miles in one go, but because they also use the battery for cooking, cooling, gadgets, heating, and e-bike charging, especially when staying off-grid. Heating particularly uses a lot of kWh without radical changes in the insulation levels and amount of glass in current vehicles. PV can help with this, but only the equivalent of a few miles/day.

@tomp4944

5 ай бұрын

Food truck people too. Food trucks typically (in the US) are surrounded by a fog of exhaust either for the truck or for gas-powered a generator. And they tote around LNP canisters. A battery big enough to just go a few miles then COOK, with no exhaust, would make healthier, more pleasant eating.

@xxwookey

5 ай бұрын

@@tomp4944 Good point. I wonder how many kWh/day a food truck uses? Induction cooking uses half the energy of gas cooking, and is typically something like 1kWh per day for camper-grade cooking (one or two rings for maybe 30 mins). A food truck may do 5-10 hours at several kW so could easily use 30kWh/day and maybe more. They probably don't travel very far normally so the current typical 50-60kWh battery should work for many cases.

@tomp4944

5 ай бұрын

@@xxwookey WOW, that's good information. I assumed the electrical needs would be higher. That's completely doable. I'm assuming as soon as fully electric food trucks arrive, health departments will suddenly notice the toxic fumes we take for granted today and make it hard for food trucks to not be electric.

Thanks for this video. Insightful and well explained. Lots of promising technology for further advances. It is worthwhile mentioning each time that there is a big gap between prototype and mass production at cost competitive levels. Tesla 4680 ramp shows how difficult it is to incorporate new technologies such as dry electrode and tabless batteries in mass production. I would assume that they are already working in the background on some of the new chemistries you cover in the video. Amprius clearly has some great technology. The question will be how long it will take to get to low cost mass production.

An excellent program. When can we expect to see LMFP batteries in cars? Some time ago I read they would be in cars in early 2024 - but I haven't heard any more. Please provide an updated battery development program annually. Thank you.

Really really good

Amazing sciencetist!

From my home to my daughter's home is 5000 km so big range is very attractive. On this trip, I travel about 1200 km per day.

0:17 Did y'all forget about the Lucid Air, capable of 520 miles? 1000 mile range batteries will be good for pick-up trucks, as towing cannibalises range. But, as mentioned, charging infrastructure is vital.

Battery technology is always improving and will get better

Hire Euan! top work on not dumbing down the discussion

There is a reason of why there are needed vehicles for personal use with long range capabilities and it is that currently existing ICE vehicles have such a long range. People are afraid of changes and specially when changes offer what they consider worse features. Those can be irrational fears, but they exist. However, in some cases, those fears are not that irrational. Meanwhile I totally agree with the conclusions of this video, you are not considering that in many places people have no possibility to have a home charger, just because they do not have a private parking space!!! For example, here in Spain most of the population live in flats, and a huge percentage are on old buildings with limited number of parking places and even without any at all. For those people, that park on the streets, the fact that their car has a long range means they do not have to worry on refueling/charging with high frequency, neither with urgency, and that makes a real difference while the fast charging infrastructure scales up. And even when the infrastructure exists, the fact of finding the charging spot and leaving the car in a place for an hour (or several hours) for a full recharge once a week makes a huge difference vs doing the same process two or three times a week. In my case it’s perfect. We have two EVs, home charger and even solar panels. But for some of my friends an EV, with the existing technology and infrastructure, would just over complicate their lives and I totally understand that.

Love to see more of Dr Euan on FC

RIP John Goodenough; he was my professor at UT Austin.

very good overview! All important developments. My dream is sodium sulfur or aluminum ions. The price is important!

Thanks

MLFP sounds great. Great to see J. Good enough mentioned, what a legend. Very interesting. Lightweight, more efficiency has my interest.

We don't need 1,000 mile petrol or diesel tanks in our cars, even if we're planning a very long journey, because refuelling is not a problem. So the same would go for electric-powered cars if the infrastructure is there. 500 miles is fine, I think.

@nunagoras

5 ай бұрын

Realistically: Most of the drivers will come out of less than 50Km a day for their regular commuting needs. In no way will a 1000Km car be needed other than for Taxis, Uber, or other professional appliances like that. And for the most part, EV's are not set to be charged, they're set to be always charging. There won't be miracles. If you have the ability to charge your EV at home or at work, great. An EV is the best outfit for you. If that's not the case, await till there are those conditions. If you are a top professional with tons of daily distances needed, so await till there are cars that make those distances.

The elephant in the room though, regarding EV fires that was carefully not mentioned was the fact that yes, batteries don't do the explosive boom of petrol, but once they do catch on fire they're the devils own job to put out.

@waynerussell6401

5 ай бұрын

Portable water dams.

great video, agree 1000 mile battery noy needed however air an sea needs a solution...

Great summary of batteries and evidence against most of BS on internet about LI battery fires. Keep up the great work. 👍

@t1n4444

5 ай бұрын

Yes, but is it bs about battery fires? Or bs that battery packs are expensive to repair or replace after a minor collision. You might be wiser to to contact the car insurance companies to see what EVs they will provide cover for and the premium charged. It seems slightly silly to buy a battery EV and then fork out huge premiums on top of. You might review the way "you" evaluate EVs.

@ElectricCarAustralia

5 ай бұрын

@@t1n4444 Troll? Or Bot? Either way not wanted here!

@t1n4444

5 ай бұрын

@@ElectricCarAustralia Hmm ... you appear to be slightly simple in your outlook. Allow me to enlighten you so you might understand the way things are on the internet. If Robert, say, sets out his stall for us to pick over then the context is open to scrutiny is it not? Nobody is going to simply swallow everything wholesale without question are they. Ditto the comments from other posters ... that content is subject to question too. If, as the case may be, you, say, disagree with counter comments then why not explain why you disagree. To simply declare those who question posters as trolls is a tad silly. It would indicate that you, say, are not really into questioning comments ... which leads me to wonder if you are capable of critical thinking. Whether "you" understand the situation or not is immaterial. Battery EVs are merely a step on the way for personal transport, as in its evolution. Horse, (camels?) horse and cart, steam, electric, petrol and diesel, LPG and back to electric again. We now see hydrogen fuel cells and latterly hydrogen combustion via re-engineered ICE We see ways of manufacturing, storing and transporting hydrogen evolving at ever increasing rates. Why, because the ultimate aim is to reduce the production of exhaust gases from burning fossil fuels so as to arrest the rate of global warming. Global warming is predicted to melt all the planetary ice which will alter the coastlines and oblige billions of people to move to higher land or perhaps live on interconnected rafts in the "new" littoral areas. Google is your friend should you wish to know more. Ergo, question everything you read, see or hear ref battery EVs being the pinnacle of personal transport. Robert knows all this anyway and for the moment appears to have dropped his "seminars" involving three old blokes believing themselves to be "mythbusters". Regrettably for Robert he doesn't appear to have the technical education to avoid such nonsense as storage heating and heaters. Neither does Imogen , say, when it comes to explaining how aforementioned storage heaters are super efficient. Hope that helps.

Great episode! Good thing that batteries already are more than good enough for many times more users than global production capacity can supply for. Better batteries are very welcome, but supply is far from catching up with potential demand where battery power already is better than current alternatives. So, what's currently most important is to get cheaper and faster and more battery production. The sooner batteries can start to replace combustion in more applications the better, obviously, but the overall transition isn't kept back by a lack of battery technology that is good enough. The most probable reason to not have an opportunity to charge a road vehicle for a thousand miles just a few years from now is that practically no one else drives that route, that also means that issue will remain relevant only for a ridiculously small minority.

As someone who is getting older, I fully understand the concept of semi-solid.

I used to drive from Scotland to the south of England quite regularly in a long range model 3. It so say had a range of 300 miles, in reality it was less than that but still perfectly adequate. The focus I feel needs to be on reducing the cost of realistic range batteries, we don't all need 300 miles when most of us only drive 30 a day. For the odd day thst we do it's cheaper to just hire a car with more range or take the train.

@sasiuru

5 ай бұрын

That is well said. I changed 2 years ago my petrol car to 28kWh Ioniq Electric. Also I had to change my mental position; not to pick car for 1% need, but look that other 99% need - which is less than 50km/day. And classic Ioniq can do it without any problems, even with Finnish winter. And for longer trips, just take a train or just plan a bit more and enjoy the trip, not just the destination. ;)

@kayvak7267

5 ай бұрын

The perfect solution would be to have modular battery packs that you can add or remove based on the how much range your need. This will help reduce weight for shorter trips, which improves the range for the smaller battery. When you need to go out of town on a longer trip, grab all the batteries you can to have the maximum range available. The next step for this scenario would be to have battery swap stations where you leave your depleted battery modules and take fully charged batteries. This is already a think with electric scooters in Asia, but with some ingenuity, we could find solutions for the bigger, heavier car batteries. Maybe have a permanent battery pack that can handle a day of city driving and the rest are swappable battery modules.

@pauldenney7908

5 ай бұрын

@@kayvak7267 see Xbus

@sasiuru

5 ай бұрын

@@kayvak7267 Cars with battery swapping system already exists. At least Norway has already few of those, just look for video from Bjorn Nyland; "Nio ES8 battery swap at Vestby, Norway"

@dingopisscreek

5 ай бұрын

And how much time did you spend charging on the way/spend in the café/or otherwise bored shitless while for it charged?

I think I'll just carry on walking everywhere. Best option😊

Hi from rural Canada where it gets to -40c for a few months.... Yes!! We do need 1000 mile batteries. That's like 600 miles for me for 3 months of the year. The nearest city to where I live in 200. Btw... I have an EV for 3 years now. I just have to be patient and plan right. Plus I have a ICE for extreme winter conditions

The technology behind 1000 mile electric car batteries can be useful in other applications. It can be used for trucks to make their battery packs more light weight meaning more freight capacity. It can also be used for electric planes to finally become available to the masses. High-speed trains are a nice thing to have, but for some reasons things tend to go wrong with the concrete over leading to ridiculously low mandatory speed limits at crucial parts of the track (like 40km/h at Antwerp or 80 km/h south of Amsterdam instead of 300 km/h). Speaking of trains, I won't be surprised over the long term trains will switch from diesel and electric trains with overhead lines to battery swapping with such improvements of battery technology. Overhead lines need quite a lot of maintenance and its maintenance has to be done over long distances while infrastructure for batteries can be more localized. It's less energy efficient though compared to wires, but when this leads to less downtime and more using less rolling resistance rail over roads, then it can be considered an alternative.

Mr McTurk downplays the risk of battery fires by looking at ideal situations only, when he should be considering some worst cases like (1) Bad battery & battery management system being made, (2) Unintended damage to the battery, through accidents, bad repair work, misuse, etc., (3) An EV fire being much harder to put out compared to a petrol/diesel car fire.

@ferrarim5p75

5 ай бұрын

@@retiredbore378 Some on the internet have said that there are clues indicating that it's a diesel-electric hybrid vehicle, which can explain why the fire was that intense and why it could not be put out by a couple who had seen it while it was still a one vehicle fire (though they appeared to be amateurs at using a fire extinguisher). The government may have the intention to not reveal the truth because they don't want to jeopardise their Switch to EV drive.

LiFePO4 is crazy popular with people doing auxiliary battery / rear battery / Dual Battery installs in Pickups and SUV's for camping, tradies recharging tools, inverters on worksites where there's no main power available, RV's, Campers, work trailers, food vans,... The Sodium based technology and it's cost savings is going to be a huge factor in the take up of new products and a move away from Li-Ion and Li-Po in those marketplaces. Li-Po / Graphene will remain the choice of Quadcopter RPV pilots, especially for racing.

Oh yeah? Let's get the crew of the Freemantle Highway on here. See what they have to say.

We do need batteries a moderate amount longer than the distances we plan to travel in one go, because we and the battery get concerned when charges approach both 0 and 100%. So a Model Y with a 325 mile range will seldom go more than 250 miles before the system really wants you to stop and recharge. So a 1000 mile battery might be good for 700 miles in reality, a great thing for a quick trip from the Bay Area to San Diego, with spare charge to hit the restaurant and the sights before the destination charger at the hotel.

Great video @fullycharged! A small production wink, did someone send the flag operator to get coffees during the opening sequence? 😂😂😂😂😂 I’m teasing… your content is amazing 😻

1000 miles battery - well unless i missed it, the discussion seems all to do with driving 1000 miles in a given journey, and whether that is ever needed. Such a battery could go for a month without charging, for an average person, and that is also an attractive notion.

@leejohnson3209

5 ай бұрын

That would certainly be attractive those with no ability to home charge.

@oliverpolden

5 ай бұрын

In my opinion, if you can’t charge your car at home then you shouldn’t get an EV. Batteries use a lot of resources that are damaging to the environment and we should be minimising those resources, not lugging around a huge battery so you don’t have to charge so often.

Now, I'm no automotive expert, but I'm guessing the Ford Pinto was not battery powered. 😅

@connclissmann6514

5 ай бұрын

That comment alone qualifies you as an engineer! 😊