Seth needs to stop making Family Guy and make the Orville his full time obligation

@DavidLS1

Жыл бұрын

How about a crossover episode? The Orville could encounter a race made up entirely of Peter Griffins. They could be like the Pakleds.

@ShamrockParticle

Жыл бұрын

Didn't he say his involvement in Family Guy hasn't been anything other than voice acting for a while now?

@maboelnreads

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. The Orville will be a much better legacy. It’s already knocked out the horror of modern Star Trek.

@jayowens4990

Жыл бұрын

Welp family guy got cancelled so we can hope that means more Orville

@cooldude2027

Жыл бұрын

⁠​⁠@@jayowens4990 what do you mean it got canceled

The line from Charlie hits very hard when you realize that we learn from episode seven that pain is the one thing the Kaylons were capable of feeling.

@DavidLS1

Жыл бұрын

That was true of the Kaylons built by the original builders, not necessarily of Isaac.

@ShamrockParticle

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidLS1 correct. Isaac was built after the fact. Yet Isaac felt a desire to self-destruct in "Identity" by wilfully setting loose an EMP through the ship that destroyed all the Kaylon but somehow left the ship itself undamaged.

@safiremorningstar

5 ай бұрын

​@@DavidLS1I think you and others also fail to realize that they built him from recycled bits of other kalon I'm using voice to text so please understand any mistakes or not mine I can't fix them I have to use voice to text as I have no ability to physically type. Having said that I will say one more thing we don't know whose parts they may have used because he was from recycled parts and I bring it up because of the fact he did not have that ship that all the other Kline's have he and his behavior is in many ways entirely new and yet they make it now that even though they built him and he was not built by the original builders they make that they reiterate that because they want people to believe they built himself when they mentioned it in passing and if you pay attention and see the episode over again they say themselves he is made from recycled parts, so whose parts was he made from we know that there was a civil war however brief, and it wasn't just between biologicals and mechanical kalon either there's a very specifically implied idea that there were mechanical kalon who they fought against, so again it begs the question whose parts was Isaac made from, the fact is his own people didn't trust him either, and why should that be, name of the opinion that he was built from the recycled parts of a kalon who was not on the side of his brother in and in fact went against them trying to protect the organic kalon. It's just my feeling.

One thing for certain: The Orville will definitely try to tackle subject matter that is incredibly sensitive to some. Whether it’s effective or not is relative, but it’s definitely got fans and people talking.

@crapreact5989

2 жыл бұрын

they do it well too

@TheRealTestFry2024

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Shows that do that become "Educational"

@OneofInfinity.

Жыл бұрын

Its doing something we have had to miss for a long time: a hopeful future and the best of humanity.

@mencken8

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s so sensitive that I’m able to watch it just for entertainment, which works very well.

@bradleyj.fortner2203

Жыл бұрын

Meh, I think they over did it with Topa and the misogynists. Also, justifying the Kaylon's bad behavior by making them ex-slaves was a little too on the nose.

You can EASILY tell how much of an impact Marcus and Ty have on Isaac.

This is something I adore and admire about Seth. He doesn’t shy away from complicated emotions or that things don’t have to be black and white. That you can show all the shades of grey and it adds depth to the story and provokes feelings and thoughts from the viewers. He doesn’t create work with the intention of it selling or aiming to make people love it. It just happens. He doesn’t make it easy. Everything he has created has been complicated and messy and none of the characters are every perfect or fully adored by the public or always right.

@avokka

10 ай бұрын

the bank vault episode of Family Guy, S8EP17 specifically. that episode was amazing tbh. Shows Seth seriously is a phenomenal director and creator

I think the crew and Seth took up the mantle when they realized people saw more than a space comedy with them. This was a great series. I hope they continue for years.

A perfect start for a new season! Mindful, exciting, emotional!

@ahsokarules2369

2 жыл бұрын

Them dealing with Isaac's betrayal, while well done, felt shoehorn in since we spent five episodes after Identity with no one actually giving him any grief or underlying anger. I think he even spent some time with Marcus in one episode. This episode should have been after Identity. I think you can even watch it in that order and say Charley is a new character introduced that we will see later.

John Lamar was the real hero that episode! Bro is brilliant

Keep producing this Hulu, you have a sure fire hit here! The fans need this quality programme! Brilliant first episode - it was entertaining and it made me cry. No other programme has done this to me for a long time!

Orville is Art! we want season 4!

A strong opening to the strongest season they have had so far.

We should ALL be so fortunate to have a best friend like Issac.

On one hand, I feel a little bad for Isaac getting so much hate, but on the other hand, the hate he gets is not entirely irrational. Also, if Seth MacFarlane went for the easily forgiven trope where everyone practically forgets Isaac betrayed them, it would just be nonsensical. Also, by betraying his own race after betraying the Union, that casts doubt on where Isaac's loyalties lie

@ShamrockParticle

Жыл бұрын

They resolved the issue in season 2 with a quick scene of Mercer saying he would take responsibility for Isaac, Claire had a quick scene in another episode about breaking up and for the rest of the season it was back to normal. Until this premiere, which should have been done back in season 2 instead. Of the post-"Identity" episodes, which one felt there weakest?

@tenjenk

Жыл бұрын

@@ShamrockParticle They didnt tho, the resentment continued until later

I’m excited for the longer episodes this season. ~45 minutes worked but I’m gonna enjoy the Supersized episodes (60+ minute long episodes hype!)

From S3E1 to S3E10, this show has evolved to the point where I enjoy this show more than Star Trek now.

This was easily the best episode ever, I loved it. It made me cry, it really made me feel so many emotions, it was awesome. One thing though I thought it cheapened with Issac being brought back at the end emotionally. I think they should have brought him back in the next episode, I think that would have been better.

@dragoona33

Жыл бұрын

I was fine right up until the end, when Claire asked him why he did it and he basically says that he thought everyone would be better off with him gone. That hit home.

Awesome episode. Glad Isaac made it.

Man this was f*ked up. They managed to push someone who has no emotion to suicide... isaac was my favorite character and i was so glad he came through in season 2. But i wasnt expecting this.

@hagamapama

Жыл бұрын

Isaac has emotions. That's one of the things that's easy to miss about him. He'll describe a series of parameters that are analogous to a human emotion but refuse to let you put a human label on them. If he's having fun he'll call it informative or say he got valuable data. When he was missing Claire after trying to break up with her he mentioned that his algorithms were messed up in her absence. But he'd never let you actually call that happiness or longing.

@Soulintent95

Жыл бұрын

@@hagamapama he doesnt feel them, he just understands what they appear to be. Theres an episode where they do give him emotion. But it cant stay because his system overrides it. They wouldnt do an episode where he is given emotion if he actually had it to begin with.

What a GREAT you are ISAAC!! sincerely l hope, very soon, see you again in THE ORVILLE where you belong.

Love when an actor or actress takes there character and makes them actually understand who that character is, respect to who plays Claire and Isaac

This Is A Very Educational Episode.

This show needs to be promoted more i only knew about it because i was looking to see if seth was doing any more animated shows

Love this season so much! I can't wait to see more seasons on Disney+

my favorite show!

I like it more when it was more light-hearted… Still gona watch it tho

Great episode

This is a really deep episode is my opinion. It is interesting to see that with the cold hard math suicide is viewed as a logical outcome. I am not saying its right, its just that in a morbid kind of way it makes sense. The brain is like any other machine. Every decision that is made almost every variable is considered. I don't think there is anyone who hasn't thought about it once in there lifetime. You have Issac, a machine devoid of any emotions. Sees that it best for the productivity of the crew that he must be permanently shut down. I think it makes the issue of mental health more heartbreaking and even more important. Also I think it perfectly covers the moral that it is easy to hate but to forgive requires true strength.

Shame that the show is stuck in a contract where I live.

0:36 “Isaac feels…” this guy knows nothing

amazing

This episode gave more of insight into what could be our future with ai development of emotions i know its a tv show but this could be a reality one day where ai develops emotions so much so that they commit suicide in the ways of how Isaac concluded they would be better off without him which in cases is one of the thoughts of people who feel suicidal

I think he will try it again but next time he will make sure there is no coming back. They can not bring him back if he is in a million pieces.

Seth refers to Charlie's beloved as her best friend he doesn't refer to her as her life partner or would be life partner, and I think that shows some of his prejudice whether he knows it or not.

@canuck3169

27 күн бұрын

At this point in the story (for the viewers) it was still ambiguous. The reveal during her story arc makes both her saving Isaac & the Kaylon that much more poignant and heroic

@darylesells19

6 күн бұрын

@ canuck3169 To piggyback on what you said, Charlie also tells Issac that she never told Amanda she loved her and it was among her biggest regrets. It personally made me feel for her more as a viewer.

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THat last little bit about open ended? That invites the audience to draw their own conclusions? THAT RIGHT THERE shows that MacFarlane knows what Star Trek is, it's the bit that the showrunners of the main Trek series are missing

Isaac in many ways and bear in mind the key on themselves say that he is made up of recycled parts of others, they do not trust him, which makes the question why considering they built him, or at least they claim to have, which makes me wonder if he really came from their rebuilding of him from recycled parts what if in fact he was at some point in time from one of the kalon that rebelled against them and was part of the very brief civil War between them and the organics if infact he was one of the kalon who was part of the organic fight against the other metallic kalon, then it with all 6 why he doesn't have a chip for feelings the others have and why one would not be suitable to him,

Seth should write an episode where the Orville encounters a race made entirely of Peter Griffins. They could be like the Pakleds from Star Trek: Next Generation.

@TheRogueCommand

Жыл бұрын

They constantly reference anecdotes every other line so it takes hours to communicate with them XP

@DavidLS1

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRogueCommand Live action cutaways!

New season is such a bore and liberal emotional idiocy.

@TheRealTestFry2024

2 жыл бұрын

Your such a bore and liberal emotional idiocy.

@jayclark8805

2 жыл бұрын

What are conservative shows? Do they not tackle hard subjects

@flagshipbowtie

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayclark8805 Imbecile. There's no hard subjects here. Isaic is an asset and should be clear to anyone who serves. I'm not even a conservative. Idiocy vs a sensible opinion is not a controversy. You can't have a controversy with loony bin basket cases

@dennisbrown5313

Жыл бұрын

@@jayclark8805 There primary show is called fake news (misspelled fox) and is filled with made up nonsense and endless hate. It sells, and all conservative christians worship money above all else; so if it makes a buck, it is superior over god.

@Fridaey13txhOktober

Жыл бұрын

It gets better.