Improving the News with Max Tegmark

Ғылым және технология

How do we fix America’s media problem? In this episode of StarTalk Radio, Neil deGrasse Tyson and comic co-host Chuck Nice talk echo chambers and the polarization of news with Max Tegmark, physicist and creator of AI media tool www.ImproveTheNews.org, and journalist Jeff Jarvis.
You’ll find out why our media landscape, and by extension our democracy, is suffering because of polarization and distribution of news through social media platforms. You’ll learn what our media landscape has in common with the multiverse. Tegmark walks us through how his tool works with machine learning to aggregate news articles, and how it tries to combat polarization in the way we find news articles. What are the pitfalls of such a tool? Will it even work?
We dive into the idea of objective truth, fact checking, and if big tech is trying to play big brother with our news media. Are readers trapped in their own social media bubbles? Are they willing to break out? Are people ready to challenge their own beliefs or is everybody only looking to confirm their own bias? Tegmark tells us why changing the delivery method of the news might result in less polarization. We explore the differences between scientific disagreement and political disagreement..
Then, Jeff Jarvis joins us to offer some criticisms and compliments about Tegmark’s website. Does the tool offer an accurate picture of the world? Is the material the website aggregates even capable of solving the problem? Discover why echo chambers might be a myth. Jarvis explains the transformation of mass media from the invention of the printing press to our current news climate. Do people need a single, go-to place for objective news? All that, plus, we get into a discussion about America’s epistemological war, how journalists need to take on the responsibilities of educators, and Jarvis gives us an optimistic vision of our media future.
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  • @darrylpaulse512
    @darrylpaulse5123 жыл бұрын

    Extremely excellent video, part 2 please. Another thing, it would be very nice and helpful if you put links in the description of every video of people/authors and their books that you or the guest mentions and use as reference. I would love to read these books and research more about these authors.

  • @okamiwolf250
    @okamiwolf2503 жыл бұрын

    Pretty great discussion, I feel like this issue isn't talked about often enough today

  • @TaterFarmer

    @TaterFarmer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @objectivemillennial2117

    @objectivemillennial2117

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like it’s the most talked subject

  • @ActionJackson669

    @ActionJackson669

    3 жыл бұрын

    The news doesn't want to bring up the corruption and problems in their field lol they aren't trying to snitch on themselves

  • @frankparoots2980

    @frankparoots2980

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never was.

  • @joeyshofner639

    @joeyshofner639

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is talked about a great deal. No one is listening.

  • @jggrskate94
    @jggrskate94 Жыл бұрын

    This man Max Tegmark need to be more often on Startalk, he's a jewel! Always giving good insight put on a humble manner. Love it.

  • @HK47_115
    @HK47_1153 жыл бұрын

    6 minutes in and Chuck is already asking the real questions

  • @jihadjoe

    @jihadjoe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chuck is the best comedian among NDT's usual co-hosts! Eugene is ok, but sometimes he interrupts at a bad time with a joke that's not particularly funny or helpful to the conversation.

  • @zzapynys

    @zzapynys

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have watched Chuck grow with Neil and StarTalk - he's scary smart actually...

  • @gomezmario.f

    @gomezmario.f

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zzapynys totally agree.. he is well above average

  • @dantemorales8387
    @dantemorales83873 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant. I liked this episode, thanks a lot Neil and Chuck. More science, education and love for a best world.

  • @SayanSarkarakadragon
    @SayanSarkarakadragon3 жыл бұрын

    Whenever Chuck starts a sentence in a serious note I get ready for a punchline coming :-P

  • @realallthings4700

    @realallthings4700

    3 жыл бұрын

    Atleast i met a Bengali

  • @simplyhuman3982

    @simplyhuman3982

    3 жыл бұрын

    So what you're saying is that he's getting predictable? They both seem to feed off each other. It just works.

  • @isetmfriendsofire

    @isetmfriendsofire

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@simplyhuman3982 Maybe predictable in format, but not necessarily predictable with what the punchline will be.

  • @simplyhuman3982

    @simplyhuman3982

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@isetmfriendsofire well, I can only see him as the comic relief. ( because, he is. )

  • @MrXrisd01
    @MrXrisd013 жыл бұрын

    Max is awesome! Such a humble dude

  • @raduandrei2190
    @raduandrei21903 жыл бұрын

    this video needs to be more popular STAT

  • @illyHaddy

    @illyHaddy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like and share it

  • @FuriousImp

    @FuriousImp

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stat is correct. Mental health.

  • @willnzsurf

    @willnzsurf

    3 жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @calapsesathir4408
    @calapsesathir44083 жыл бұрын

    Chuck Nice !!! Another 🔥 🔥 episode.

  • @cheryldee9240

    @cheryldee9240

    3 жыл бұрын

    I watch this for Chuck Nice! I love the way Chuck can get a full-on belly laugh from Neil with his witty yet brilliant jokes. 😍😍

  • @harsimranbansal5355
    @harsimranbansal53553 жыл бұрын

    Max Tegmark! Accidentally bought his book and been a fan ever since! He’s great!

  • @Purrfect_Werecat

    @Purrfect_Werecat

    3 жыл бұрын

    Accidentally? xD

  • @ouweman2609

    @ouweman2609

    3 жыл бұрын

    🥸

  • @glace5717

    @glace5717

    3 жыл бұрын

    so how does one accidentally buys a book

  • @calapsesathir4408
    @calapsesathir44083 жыл бұрын

    The last half hour of this show was great. Bring them both back pls Startalk !!!

  • @rinzertanz
    @rinzertanz3 жыл бұрын

    ... Shocker. In my 66th orbit, and just discovered StarTalk (!?!) What an enlightening, entertaining, informative and inspiring channel! ~ New fan! ~ Thank you all for expanding minds with wit, charm and civility. ~Will be tuning in regularly, and looking back over the 500+ videos I’ve missed. ~ It is SOOO gratifying and encouraging to hear empathetic adults in the room!! THANK YOU!

  • @sirjonsmithiii992
    @sirjonsmithiii9923 жыл бұрын

    They have just a great dynamic. Such a great show.

  • @nicholassavage5325
    @nicholassavage53253 жыл бұрын

    Dr Tyson Chuck you guys had an absolutely great and uplifting conversation I feel like this should go viral and everybody should just take a second take the 53 minutes out of their life and listen to what you guys are saying because you're 100% on point and Chuck Jeff was right that was about the most eloquently put statement I've heard in a long time congratulations great job

  • @BrettCahill
    @BrettCahill3 жыл бұрын

    This issue is the sole reason I had to come off social media, I'm really glad you're talking about it!

  • @johnnester820
    @johnnester8203 жыл бұрын

    At 31:31 Chuck was the smartest man in the conversation. Absolutely brilliant Chuck.

  • @brilliantlyfree7103
    @brilliantlyfree71033 жыл бұрын

    Anytime you got Max Tegmark on it's a win. Max you the best man. You the best..

  • @FIRE_STORMFOX-3692
    @FIRE_STORMFOX-36923 жыл бұрын

    Hey Neil thanks for the knowledge and the explanation to achieve understanding

  • @katiakatia2380
    @katiakatia23803 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful human being❤️Thank you for your caring Max Tegmark🙏There is hope for us humans.

  • @Anon-fm8tz
    @Anon-fm8tz3 жыл бұрын

    I only watch star talk chuck is in the video. You 2 have great chemistry

  • @cheryldee9240

    @cheryldee9240

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're just like me. I hover the thumbnail to make sure Chuck is there!

  • @kraka2oanIner
    @kraka2oanIner2 жыл бұрын

    ...COOL, that Jeff Jarvis singled out Chuck for his participation. Chuck indeed provides comedic relief (and has his silly moments), but he now and then ASKS IMPORTANT QUESTIONS that require well-deserved attention and consideration. KUDOS, Chuck. And: overall, this was (IMHO) an excellent segment of STAR TALK. Thanks!

  • @M4nusky
    @M4nusky3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing episode!

  • @siszi6
    @siszi63 жыл бұрын

    Such an important startalk episode, this must be revisited!!!

  • @jimmartinson5279
    @jimmartinson52793 жыл бұрын

    I was not expecting to like this video. But thank goodness someone is trying to stop the blather. Thank you Max, and thank you Neil for having him on. I just looked through Improve the News.. Thank you. I have it saved in my favorites

  • @felicityc

    @felicityc

    3 жыл бұрын

    same. i like this a lot. needs work on their machine learning but in time. how he explained we shouldn't blame people for being dumb is just how i wrote some pieces about some sympathy for those lost souls in qanon. they have reason to be distrustful. it's not even really a bad stance to just be contrarian with the news sometimes. but it went too far

  • @boaminikam2
    @boaminikam23 жыл бұрын

    This is such a great episode!

  • @theritebowl9972
    @theritebowl99723 жыл бұрын

    wow loved listening to this topic! great discussion and of course Neil and Chuck were great!

  • @fizyknaut8108
    @fizyknaut81083 жыл бұрын

    I love these podcasts- they're always so stimulating and give exposure to many great scientists and people, that would have been much harder for me to find otherwise.

  • @mikecarter2208
    @mikecarter22083 жыл бұрын

    It seems that Neil has taken note and improved on the interupting people issue he had and I'm proud of him for it 👏 love these!

  • @sherrylennondewitt4102
    @sherrylennondewitt41023 жыл бұрын

    This is Brilliant and perfect timing! Plus I'm cracking up 😝

  • @DoveSimon
    @DoveSimon3 жыл бұрын

    This is an absolutely brilliant idea. I sincerely hope it starts to influence the way people obtain and consume news.

  • @vijoin
    @vijoin3 жыл бұрын

    Loved it, Neil. This initiative gotta be widely spread out for the sake of humanity! Thanks!

  • @wandahost
    @wandahost3 жыл бұрын

    Love the show ❤

  • @charlesphilips2045
    @charlesphilips20453 жыл бұрын

    Hi Neil and Chuck, I thoroughly enjoyed these conversations. Please let's have more of this.

  • @johnherron3961
    @johnherron3961 Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff - Max is a great professor (teacher). 🙂

  • @heiksheiks2746
    @heiksheiks27463 жыл бұрын

    One of the best discussions coming up about these important issues! Some algorithms do not let person see, what he or she is willing to look/study for.

  • @carter7246
    @carter72463 жыл бұрын

    Maybe a bit more nuances needed for my taste, but, also not wanting to minimize any other Startalk videos, I feel THIS ONE IS THE BEST ONE YET ! Sooooo inspiring !

  • @leatherface4133
    @leatherface41333 жыл бұрын

    This channel is so intellectual. ♥️

  • @truesimplicity
    @truesimplicity3 жыл бұрын

    Nice Chuck(No pun intended) that was deep. Neil love you as always, I will definitely download and refer others to the improve the news ...app

  • @shawnkalas1746
    @shawnkalas17463 жыл бұрын

    Loved this episode!! Thank you!

  • @coreymcconnell2329
    @coreymcconnell23293 жыл бұрын

    More more more more more more more more we need more Chuck and Niall and this is the best time to give all this education

  • @kathryntate6809
    @kathryntate68093 жыл бұрын

    Max Tegmark's idea is wonderful!!

  • @iamgroot4080
    @iamgroot40803 жыл бұрын

    Chuck was on a roll in this one! 🔥

  • @jasondeboard3670
    @jasondeboard36703 жыл бұрын

    Loved this conversation. Thanks!

  • @Lisared023
    @Lisared0233 жыл бұрын

    Great conversation!! There's nothing sexier than an intelligent conversation that expands ones mind, viewpoint and perception!

  • @Lucy_Bayard_John
    @Lucy_Bayard_John3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mr. DeGrasse Tyson, I just received your new book today! Looking forward to reading it!

  • @paweszymonjasinski7158
    @paweszymonjasinski71583 жыл бұрын

    Only i think Chuck outsmarted Neil and Max today? Great episode, i love Startalk!

  • @MindstabThrull
    @MindstabThrull3 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I don't like about this episode is no questions from the public, including Patreon supporters, "because they give us money."

  • @DominikJaniec
    @DominikJaniec3 жыл бұрын

    Great talk! Thank you for it and for encouragement to treat each other with respect and desire to learn from. However, there is one thing I miss in this episode. As someone told me once: "it matters more what you don't read" - as there is too much things to learn and read, thus you cannot see and absorb everything and you need to choose what you will.

  • @arisaris3484
    @arisaris34843 жыл бұрын

    Great video on a very vital topic coming at a critical moment. Everyone as usual was brilliant, even Chuck.

  • @ramkumarr1725
    @ramkumarr17253 жыл бұрын

    29:52 Thanks for the candor.

  • @m6h3r
    @m6h3r3 жыл бұрын

    Great episode

  • @daviddavies5322
    @daviddavies53223 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Neil, Chuck, and Max. Makes me THINK alot 🤔!!!!

  • @ShovonM
    @ShovonM3 жыл бұрын

    What a great discussion. Wow! Probably the most relevant Startalk topic in today's world.

  • @captainzappbrannagan
    @captainzappbrannagan3 жыл бұрын

    This is so needed. Thanks Max! Thanks Science :)

  • @Jason-gt2kx
    @Jason-gt2kx3 жыл бұрын

    Best news I've heard in a LONG time.

  • @clarejarvis291
    @clarejarvis2913 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this podcast.

  • @jensbang7329
    @jensbang73293 жыл бұрын

    Max...your awesome!! ...I've been on your shoulder for a long time!!! Love you man!!!♥️😎

  • @patriciarowan4104
    @patriciarowan41043 жыл бұрын

    I love Chuck Nice.....-.what an insightful man.

  • @jamesbentonticer4706
    @jamesbentonticer47063 жыл бұрын

    That blackboard behind Dr Tegmark is sweet!

  • @joseimpact
    @joseimpact3 жыл бұрын

    man i would love to grab some drinks and talk to these guys, so cool!

  • @OverlordZephyros
    @OverlordZephyros3 жыл бұрын

    Lets just NOT watch the news networks and just focus on science works for me 😉

  • @danielludlow8960
    @danielludlow89602 жыл бұрын

    I totally dig on Max Tegmark as a human being....he is thoughtful and considerate.

  • @sathanimations1457
    @sathanimations14573 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed Max on Lex Fridman's podcast. Pleased to see him here as well

  • @gruxalfa
    @gruxalfa3 жыл бұрын

    Love the idea and implementation

  • @adrees
    @adrees3 жыл бұрын

    47:06 Chuck breaking it down!

  • @CristiK24
    @CristiK243 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Max Tegmark I rode your book Life 3.0 and now I read Neil Tyson book astrophysics for those in hurry. Salut Max! (I heard you know Romanian 🇷🇴) 👍

  • @waynegosson1793
    @waynegosson17933 жыл бұрын

    Excellent stuff. I’m trying it out as soon as this video is done. Now, will it show me news from around the world ? Because we all know, a lot of the news is held back in other countries and never shown to us.

  • @Purrfect_Werecat
    @Purrfect_Werecat3 жыл бұрын

    I listened to this on spotify today heading to work, and i checked out that website on my break

  • @danielandreisx
    @danielandreisx3 жыл бұрын

    Improvethenews is a brilliant idea...The next step should be adding the choice of language. I wonder how much would it cost to have support of all languages on this site. I'm sure it would be very costly, but how much approximately ? Love the show.

  • @laredotech
    @laredotech3 жыл бұрын

    I want facts without demonizing or glorifying anything. I wish news were like that

  • @jackietunberg5819

    @jackietunberg5819

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @cheryldee9240

    @cheryldee9240

    3 жыл бұрын

    We would get "just the facts" if controversy and sensationalism weren't such big money makers. These great minds all left out the profit motives in this illuminating yet fruitless discussion.

  • @NarynbekGilman

    @NarynbekGilman

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cheryldee9240 I wouldn't call it fruitless, but I agree with you about the rest.

  • @EvanRustMakes

    @EvanRustMakes

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check out AP, reuters, PBS, and NPR for highly factual reporting without much bias (it's impossible to have literally 0 bias)

  • @laredotech

    @laredotech

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cheryldee9240 It makes me happy to know that they don't get any ad revenues with me thanks dns filtering and some apks🤣.

  • @frumpeting
    @frumpeting3 жыл бұрын

    This is so cool! Great media invention.

  • @michaeladams6847
    @michaeladams68473 жыл бұрын

    5:28 Chuck coming with the heavy facts 🤣😒

  • @stephanienirenberg7426
    @stephanienirenberg74262 жыл бұрын

    This show is so smart. I Love this show. With a passion.

  • @meetmadhu7373
    @meetmadhu73733 жыл бұрын

    5:40 Chuck rocked it there 😂👌🏻

  • @shanongwynne6439
    @shanongwynne64393 жыл бұрын

    super important and extremely relevant.

  • @abwannabe88
    @abwannabe883 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. How does ground news compare. I use that and find it quite useful

  • @deepquake9
    @deepquake93 жыл бұрын

    That was cool. The advert was Neil for masterclass 😂

  • @ashtreylil1

    @ashtreylil1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopDavid what false histories has he created? Please give sources so I can correct my opinions.

  • @ashtreylil1

    @ashtreylil1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HopDavid can you give another? The article itself kinda explains that there are memory faults and I couldn't blame someone for a flaw in biology. I can blame someone for being stubborn and difficult to pull out of their initial opinions though. Really the issue is that when you are a smart person you think everyone is mistaken when they say you are wrong. If anything I'd say he has a bias from his upbringing and intelligence, but not that he's doing this intentionally. I think it's that he is arrogant, that's why he talks over people, that's why he insists he's right. Even with all of that I can't say much because it makes perfect sense for his behavior, not that it's right but it's logical.

  • @Vidrack
    @Vidrack3 жыл бұрын

    It’s social science friend. People are changing the way debates go these days too

  • @Soint
    @Soint3 жыл бұрын

    great content m8s! bravo

  • @roharbaconmoo
    @roharbaconmoo3 жыл бұрын

    Chuck is a great example of the problem with echo chambers

  • @Push-Pull
    @Push-Pull3 жыл бұрын

    Lovely stuff by Max.

  • @suvigyabasnotra7378
    @suvigyabasnotra73783 жыл бұрын

    Please do a Science of Inversion from TENET Cosmic Queries inviting Christopher Nolan Brain Greene and our Scientist turned filmmaker 'Christopher Nolan'

  • @heiksheiks2746

    @heiksheiks2746

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be really great to discover scientific reasoning of inversion...

  • @foifoifoi610

    @foifoifoi610

    3 жыл бұрын

    You said christopher Nolan twice

  • @suvigyabasnotra7378

    @suvigyabasnotra7378

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@foifoifoi610 Yeah...I noticed after posting. 😅

  • @pnut3844able

    @pnut3844able

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nolan? No thank you. He's such a pretentious d bag filmmaker, not a scientist.

  • @suvigyabasnotra7378

    @suvigyabasnotra7378

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pnut3844able I know he's not a scientist...but he makes the most scientifically cohesive films and what's so pretentious about him...? That man takes 6-7 years to decades for completing his scripts which he works on all alone! He's easily the best filmmaker of all time.

  • @gsmadmax100
    @gsmadmax1003 жыл бұрын

    OUTSTANDING!!... can we get one for KZread ? there ai sux!

  • @bikkies
    @bikkies3 жыл бұрын

    This is a great idea and it underlines one of my lifelong beliefs. An egotist yearns to be proven right, whereas a scientist yearns to be proven wrong. True science doesn't often state facts but instead expresses an opinion, a belief that the idea is the strongest candidate so far. Every scientific idea is only temporary, a custodian until a better idea displaces it. This is what makes the scientific method so powerful.

  • @marcoss6212
    @marcoss62123 жыл бұрын

    You guys should have a contest with the Glowforge as the first prize, want one so bad since Chuck showed us his wormhole made on it, but I'm broke and can not afford one. Chuck, since you a Nice person, send me one. Hook on your channel guys, keep it up!

  • @BrianHickmanMilitaryBrat
    @BrianHickmanMilitaryBrat3 жыл бұрын

    This is spot on , on what is wrong today. Some of the people in the comments need to learn this as well.

  • @HellaUtube
    @HellaUtube3 жыл бұрын

    Science and humanity. Well said!

  • @ramkumarr1725
    @ramkumarr17253 жыл бұрын

    35:37 Binary buckets and I looked up Fuzzy membership yesterday. Maybe it is fuzzy logic for news🙏👍

  • @EDUARDOCAPANEMAecapanema
    @EDUARDOCAPANEMAecapanema3 жыл бұрын

    Randomize the sliders on landing or create a button that does so

  • @korzen321
    @korzen3213 жыл бұрын

    Great idea.. I hope it spreads

  • @christosbereris5483
    @christosbereris54833 жыл бұрын

    Chuck just leveled up bigtime

  • @jackietunberg5819
    @jackietunberg58193 жыл бұрын

    A WONDERFUL invention. Possibly one of the best inventions of the millennia. Nowhere could you find anything like this, except this website.

  • @Apheem
    @Apheem3 жыл бұрын

    I love the sound of this app and so far at 6 min in I love this guest

  • @dylan3657
    @dylan36573 жыл бұрын

    i got more interested in comments on news channel than articles and what i seen is it's like people start arguing and lead you away from the article it's like it's deliberate

  • @iamgroot4080
    @iamgroot40803 жыл бұрын

    I just love this Max guy 🥰

  • @ttroopers1025
    @ttroopers10252 жыл бұрын

    Haha max hand movements when he's describing things are so funny. Love it

  • @TheRubyGamesOG
    @TheRubyGamesOG3 жыл бұрын

    It actually took me a while to figure out that max is using a green screen, great lighting! I wouldn't have noticed if his hair didn't glitch out

  • @Purrfect_Werecat

    @Purrfect_Werecat

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didnt see his hair glitch out but his hands left a green trail sort of when he gestured fast

  • @elck3

    @elck3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seriously? Wow

  • @dragonbrown1494
    @dragonbrown14943 жыл бұрын

    @8:21 Is that a Blue Screen chalkboard?!!?

  • @HiddenPalm

    @HiddenPalm

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup. That guy is up to something for sure.

  • @yeshayah4443
    @yeshayah44433 жыл бұрын

    I was targeted by KZread to watch this video.

  • @pnut3844able

    @pnut3844able

    3 жыл бұрын

    Irony...

  • @steinidaraasen
    @steinidaraasen3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, What kind of artwork is behind on the wall on the left/right side

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