Great episode! The Nash equilibrium / game theory optimal play that Liv was telling us about reminded me of that game played by Data and Kolrami: strategema. When Data realised he could tire Kolrami out by playing game theory optimal rather than trying to win.

Wow! what a great episode. So glad you had Liv Boeree on. Always been a big fan of hers

I am still waiting for this: I am your host Neil De grass Tyson you personal astrophysicist and I have Chuck Nice your personal Commedian.

@msshannonigans

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Chuck addressed this in a previous (obvs) episode. Something about how it was great that NDT was everybody's *personal* astrophysicist, but that Chuck has bills or something, lol, and can't be everybody's personal comedian.

@TechSlice

3 жыл бұрын

@@msshannonigans lol Oh I gotta check that out

@handsomeblackmuscle9845

3 жыл бұрын

He already did. I think you may have slipped into a parallel reality when it happened. 😆

@chacdogful

3 жыл бұрын

Now I see why he isn’t funny.... he’s a “Commedian”

@paulvamos7319

2 жыл бұрын

@@chacdogful Ta, ta, dum................... Crash! Cane comes out from the right side and a voice says "Exit stage left" XD

My heavens, I love so much when I get to see Chuck correct Neil.

@johnlitwiniec3206

2 жыл бұрын

He really is a smart dude.

thanks, Neil...you are such a helpful science educator!

Famous last words, "I just taught AI to lie."

@theduder2617

3 жыл бұрын

The end all way to avoid those being the "last words"... simply do not input any more data into the AI system. Or simply add an extra 1 or 0 that should not be there. Just as squeezing on a person's throat, the system becomes starved for input, begins to error, and eventually seizes, completely unable to correct the software conflict, then basically dies to borrow a term from biology. ALL AI, regardless of cost or creator, demands human intervention or the systems crash. It's a reality few either learn, or deny outright due to a misunderstanding of the very technology.

@victorjoseph4162

3 жыл бұрын

@@theduder2617 Not true, one of the first things any proper general AI would do is to stop any other agent, especially human, from changing, stopping or shutting it down. Search for "The stop button problem" even here on KZread. You'll have a blast.

@jsmithers.

3 жыл бұрын

@@theduder2617 The AI will recognize that erroneous 1 and 0 you added, and delete it by itself. You are underestimating the capability of future AI and technology.

@theduder2617

3 жыл бұрын

@@jsmithers. You are overestimating the technology. Quite a bit to be honest. I am certain that you are unaware that AI can in fact be prevented from ever doing all sorts of things. It's all in the coding. And yes, code can be altered without AI being able to correct. That is the difference between actually studying the technology and believing something that "feels right".

@oblivion591

2 жыл бұрын

I am not afraid to keep on living I am not afraid to walk this world alone Honey, if you stay, I'll be forgiven Nothing you can say can stop me going home

I've watched Liv play poker for years, and seen her talk about that a lot, but it's really cool to see her waxing lyrical with the science, a rare treat.

It's amazing how fluent is she to answer the attack of questions but the info Matt provides is pretty amazing

"It's ALL Google" - Chuck winning with *style* there 👏😂😂

@Testa717

Ай бұрын

❤

Mr Tyson could you do a video explaining "Olbers' Paradox"?

Olivia is absolutely awesome.

Great episode. Thanks Neil.

Plz make a video on Quantum Computing!!

Thanks!

Can we have Gary more often?!!

Great episode guys! I just saw that alpha go documentary about deep mind.. Really makes you think about A. I. these days! It was crazy.. I don’t know that much about go but I’d really like to play Neil in a game of chess!!

Symmetry can really mess with state space, for instance in Tic Tac Toe, there are not 9 opening moves but 3 (corner, side, centre), since you can spin the board or mirror it.

@the_Acaman

2 жыл бұрын

Spinning or mirroring are other states themselves, aren't they?

Chuck's throw pillows are so great!

@aprilk3002

3 жыл бұрын

And that chair!

I can now give my own lecture after watching this episode 😀

You are the best person ever Neil !! You are one of my favorite people

29:42 👌 more of that PLEASE

I remember first seeing Chuck on TruTV. It's amazing seeing how far he's come. He's (almost) an intellectual comedian now.

@twonumber22

3 жыл бұрын

Was he on COPS?

@the83rdtrombonist60

3 жыл бұрын

@@twonumber22 Commentator on World's Dumbest Criminals

@jsmithers.

3 жыл бұрын

All comedians are intellectual though. Meaning to have that ability to be funny, and to be witty and clever, requires a lot of quick thinking brain activity and sometimes deep thinking activity. Humor is an area or subset of intelligence. Thus all comedians are technically smart people in some facet and thus intellectual.

@Testa717

Ай бұрын

❤❤

Makes perfect sense

Love the Star Talk logo on the tv Chuck! Well done.

Yes

Every video I watch, and I try to watch them all, I think of Miss Sunchita. She must be so proud 💜

So glad this is more about AI and mathematics, but it's also making me miss playing poker and board game nights with friends

@tonywhee

3 жыл бұрын

Soon ?

I like chucks startalk tv i like to imagine its actually just a picture frame and doesnt turn on

Hi Neil, I am from India and watching ur show regularly and like it very much. I have 2 questions for you, whose answers I am not getting. Request you to please answer. 1. When star like sun or bigger than it explodes then it's all fusion energy is consumed. Then how can stars is getting born from its remnants? Because no fusion is left in remnant(Nebulae). 2. How can stars can be born out explosion of single star, I mean from where they get matter to form stars from single star?

Poker, my favorite sport.

This make me think of the Star Trek TNG episode were Data was playing a chess like game against a master and kept losing. He then switched his game play up to just tie the other player. The other player just gives up out of frustration due to the length of the game.

@millefune

3 жыл бұрын

The game was Strategema.

Yay Chuck

GTO is good when your playing the very top players, explorative play is the best against players at your local casino.

*Love Olivia* ❤️

I truly enjoyed this... just saying and not bluffing...

Please Neal, look into IA in the field of medical diagnostics, seams to be fascinating.

How about the lottery is that considered a random number generator?

And Neil actually had time to watch The Queen’s Gambit. And I’m here think I don’t have enough time. 😂

@sicfxmusic

3 жыл бұрын

@ThatOneDood yes It's same as watching 7 startalk videos 😲

Take a look at Cosmos VR Experience in Dreams (playstation)

I just saw the episode of TNG where Data finally learned poker.

007 refers to Queen Elizabeth's Alchemist John Dee - her secret agent...

Liv is a smart thinking lady I've seen after a long time.....

@jsmithers.

3 жыл бұрын

She has bikini pictures on google ;)

Wow, I've seen Liv play on TV before a while back, I knew she was smart but I never knew she was a physicist/astrophysicist.

Not sure about pokerface but it most definitely can have your face ;)

Some people here think AI source code just magically happens in a computer system without human intervention or creation 🤣🤯

@Theraot

3 жыл бұрын

That's how AI reproduces... 41:30 Because they are aliens.

@theduder2617

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. They do not understand that software demands human input or there is no software to speak of. Nor do they understand how easily and without effort AI can be fooled and/or rendered non-functional simply by not providing input. I've told them to leave an AI system running with no human input whatsoever and watch how quickly it degrades. There was even an old 80's movie which made fun of technology's need for human input. "Number 5 is alive" was the catch phrase.

@jsmithers.

3 жыл бұрын

@@theduder2617 Ummm...You're still early on in AI's lifespan bud....Computers themselves have only really been publicly available for 30ish years. In another 50 years, the ability of AI can be totally different...The way it WORKS can be totally different...Just because you think you understand how it works now in 2021 doesnt mean you know for sure what AI will be able to do in 2050....It will be able to repair itself, in coding and other facets. You do not have 100% knowledge on how things can possibly go in 50 years from now. So pipe down.

Blue hot! It's blue hot damit!

Type in and watch Trinity-poker scene on you tube and watch lol it’s of the movie Trinity is still my name you will love it lol

Of course we have perfect synthetic random number generators. Quantum random number generators are perfect.

Liv is gorgeous!

Whenever you mention these calculations you always need to mention that go has several levels higher than chess I mean it's essentially the same kind of difference between go and chess as it is between chess and tic-tac-toe.

Lets talk about the role AI plays in machine learning and automation technology and how that ties to terms like "universal income" 15-20 years from today, Moore's law indicates we will be in a very different world with many jobs being replaced with automated technology and in a world likely to lean toward universal income as a fix are we being realistic about the world our children will live in?. PS: Do we remember the political and social environment the last time, someone had the nerve to utter the phrase "learn to code" ?!

Why is the sky dark but there is so much light in it?

So , when AI becomes clever enough to withhold or change information that it gives us , to improve its own position , how would we know ?

@ddpwe5269

3 жыл бұрын

Why would you program it do that in the first place?

@orsonincharge4879

3 жыл бұрын

@@ddpwe5269 .."AI becomes clever" insinuates that it's beyond it's initial programing . Programs are not clever , the people that write them are , but when AI writes its own code ...... and it's clever enough to poker face , how would you know ?

@jerryfick613

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say when people who ask that question or similar ones start disappearing...

@jerryfick613

3 жыл бұрын

@@ddpwe5269 There are always smart people who are more focused on what they can do than what they should do.

Want to always win at rock, paper, scissors? Then watch the opponent's hand as it raises from the second strike of the palm. Most people plan their move on the second impact and their brain begins the transfer of hand position at that time. When not informing someone of the above, I maintain a 96% win streak in rock, paper, scissors. Important note: Texas holdem players have been harder to beat. They tend to hide rather well I have noticed.

I'm never happier than where there's a new Star Talk. Sad to be so serious about that little fact about me...

@aprilk3002

3 жыл бұрын

Meant to say "when", rather than "where".

Comedy.❤️

Right at the beginning I see a whole lovely person. Liv. Smart. Clued on. Pretty and pretty with a smile. Educated. Actually got some decent IQ and a professional in a number of ways. Communication. Linguistically and body language form. I dont know how to say all this. But I like her and I'm respectable enough to say she is a lovely and successful classy woman. My respect can't be expressed here. And it's a dogs breakfast my attempt here.

Hi Neil, I have a question: Is it possible for a planet to form around a black hole? And if so, would it be possible for that planet to have life?

So how about a game like Magic the Gathering?

@PlumBerryCherries

3 жыл бұрын

The Ai, for now, will lose. But if they start grouping up on us................

I saw some tells.

The steaks are high. Neil, you're sending cattle into space?

Look at all this beautiful wood. Splendid.

@07:54 Q: How do you know that Neil deGrasse Tyson went to Princeton? A: _Don't worry, he'll tell you_ . Liv Boeree: "Neil, when you were at school... *excuse me... **_PRINCETON_** ...* "

Google is skynet

Liv so beautiful :]

So he is RNGJesus

When I registered as a Republican voted: 2020 in advance at my home address on 1st Bay Street, -1035 I was told in response to registration application on line... I received a voting location to mail in the enclosed ballot received. I also received a receipt by memo, not a registration card (used as a form of ID alternative Name, address, citizenship status and state issued. I was leaving on my trip but we were able to vote in person at the city Circuit Court before we left. I brought 2 of my children (who lived right across the street from my kitchen window) with me to learn how to vote their voice on paper. Both were born in the country, natural born citizens and were over 18 years old. Both were denied (that day) and given further instructions to follow up. I brought my ballot as instructed and gave it to the lady sitting at the table who handed me a different registration form to check before I was led to the computer to vote again After I voted, my form was scanned into another machine. I was given a nod, a sticker, and a folder with pen to throw away. (They weren't even considered worth keeping) But at the beginning of the line, my original voting ballot was looked at, reviewed by the lady who gave me another form to register and destroyed my 1st vote by ripping it up in front of me. If these processes aren't evidence of election meddling, by 3rd parties of interest AND organized volunteers to assist I clearly cannot determine the fate of our nation before I left town to SAVE it. So, I destroyed my sticker. That's just advertising

@anOhhhMan

Жыл бұрын

And I would do it again. Even under pressure. Even with other plans. Even with someone elses kids But, Im only ONE vote And my 1st time voting Was historic

Google aka Skynet. Just wait on it.

Wouldn't a quantum chip be completely random?

If you do account for probability in your daily life then you should keep in mind that the most unlikely thing is for nothing unlikely to happen at all.

Giant Optimums 67 & this is the perfect number. 😂

Be cool to have AI Vs AI Artificial Intelligence against Allen Iverson in Basketball video game Talking bout practice

Shawshank Redemption was a novella or short story not a novel

Saw the thumbnail, thought it was a ted Ed video

Will you do an actual episode on transhumanism?

@johnlitwiniec3206

2 жыл бұрын

Why.?

It is weird to me to consider it the "death of the human mind" for humans to use the results of analyzing a problem with a computer in playing poker, but not to treat it similarly when we use computers to analyze and understand physics and other scientific problems..

I'd like to hear more about AI. People often speak of it as though it's a single thing. But there are so many variations on AI, I would love to know how scientists think this is going to eventually merge (or not) into some "master AI".

Hello Neil. Where is earth placed in our milky way? What system?

Computers that can beat everyone playing games. I hope our timeline has a great John Connor.

@millefune

3 жыл бұрын

As much as humans have destroyed the rare gem of this planet, and each other, I'm on Skynet's side.

@SerenoOunce

2 жыл бұрын

The day we create AI will be the mark of Earth's next mass extinction event. Assuming global warming doesn't beat us to it.

I improved my Algorithm “Singularity” by 100x in 3 Days

6:42!96!69-VI&IX 6:43!79!76!97 6:44!98!86!98 6:45!99!66!96 Deep Mind!Mined

I don’t play games; I just win without playing 🤷🏽‍♀️🤓✋🏻

"Thats why 4 year olds can play tictactoe and not chess" Except for Misha who will destroys most people at 4 yo

Too bad the panel doesn't know a thing about chess and only base their discussions on a pop culture tv series desscribing like 60s or 70s. Nobody adjourns games anymore - it's a sit and go, no breaks for lunch etc. you can go to the toilet but if anyone discovers any electronic device on you, you're done. Moreover, they don't even discover anything but you play much above the level at which you are, this already raises a lot of suspicion and you are much more likely to get caught eventually.

If you have set rules and only do what the rules say you should do within what is allowed in the game then you will lose some sure and even win some although much like flipping a coin or rolling a die, it will avrage out over 10 trillion games.

I always like "your older than mud" because it takes time to turn to dirt.

cold war flachbacks?

I wanna make a pillow with Neil's voice.

🧐💭 The arts 🎭 the interesting part about poker for a fact is David Blaine Cannot enter. A Casino 🎰. Especially a poker game. 😂👍 Sincerely friends of planet 🌎 ye gentlemen From brother 👻 Boo!

The real robot 🤖 poker face has to be the one using an atm. 😅

Neil Degrasse Tyson we need you to tackle all these cyper attacks on us soil

@lammymammy1

3 жыл бұрын

What is he going to do about it?

🧐💭 Ain’t is actually a word just think about a robot that is about to hit you in the face 😆🎂🦾🤖 👍 With a cake The winner has to be getting the best of anyone. I could not see the poker face . We’d be like we ain’t Falling for this one again.😂

I really don't care about anything, except Liv and her cuteness

"Okay Matt you've thought way too much about cheating, I'm getting a little worried about you." -NDT 37:49

Poker........... William t Riker......????

Neil, he or she politely corrected you. What you were talking about was a quantified X Factor and what Chuck was talking about is commonly known as The X Factor as in the unknown factor... Maybe it's just because I'm watching you more often however I'm seeing the lacking in your overall wisdom more and more. And it's things that you should be smart enough to not f*** up. You know like correcting someone else while also being wrong at the same time. Or claiming that Pluto is not a planet and instead it's something completely different a dwarf planet... That's right add a word to planet which is a descriptive word and somehow that means it's not a f****** planet because we live in a fantasy land apparently...

Neil is really great and not afraid to tell the truth, like I love his video about the Golden Age of Islam.

@abdulmuminosman168

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It was really insightful and great 💯

@stiannobelisto573

2 жыл бұрын

That "golden age" is highly exaggerated

Isn't a horse-dolphin called a hippocampus? 😉

Ai is a poker face

Can AI even exist when we don't know how consciousness or intelligence occurs in preview ourselves? I doubt it.

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

tbh it's whatever we get that's considered 'close enough'. a chess program doesn't need to be able to program a microwave, or be aware of what a microwave is, to be considered 'intelligent'. the definition is "the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills" and we've got plenty of programs ou there that can do this - not in a general way like we can conscious/sentience isn't the same as AI. we'd like it (and fear it) to get there, as we're essentially working to mimic our own, and that'd be the goal for a general AI, but it's not like it's some utterly impossible task. i mean, how can you say it's unlikely if you don't know the limits of your consciousness? if you got something that seemed close enough, can't really say for sure it's not, given you've admitted you don't really know how yours is working either.

@34ccsn

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeman27534 we have decent SPECIFIC AI that can do well in very specific tasks only. There is no general AI, and IMHO there will never be a general AI.

@leeman27534

3 жыл бұрын

@@34ccsn tbh i wouldn't say 'never' maybe not even in our lives, but 'never', eh. but i'm also not one of those sorta transhumanists that only seem interested because they're hoping that they're going to come up with an immortality method before they die, and have a more realistic mindset about potential tech.