One of my favorite quotes in rock history. "Fuck Imagine Dragons."- Josh Homme

@HughMansonMD

10 күн бұрын

Never heard this before. Right when I thought Josh couldn't be any cooler..

@Navajo41

10 күн бұрын

I strongly agree. They honestly have no talent. It's the sell your soul to get famous... Anyone can use the same loud drum beat in their songs...

@Navajo41

9 күн бұрын

@@IIIFirebreatherIdiotCrowIII you're allowed to have your opinion. Thank you for sharing.

@svenmify

7 күн бұрын

@@Navajo41I don’t particularly like them, but saying they have no talent seems inaccurate. You just don’t like their music. But even if they really didn’t have any talent, so what? Neither do I, but I still enjoy making music and got to the point where I can make decent songs and play some instruments, through hard work. I don’t have the ambition to get anywhere with it, but if I did, why would my lack of innate talent matter? Judge the music, not the musician.

@Navajo41

7 күн бұрын

@@svenmify it's just my opinion that they have no talent. This new information of what they did made me dislike them even more. I'm not the best musician either but it's not my dream to be famous either. I'm sure they worked hard by selling their souls. Like I said, just my opinion. No need to be upset about it.

2024 has been wild for music beefs. 7 months in and we've had Drake vs Kendrick, Foo Fighters vs Taylor Swift, and now Serj vs Imagine Dragons.

@MoshMob

16 күн бұрын

Dont forget Tom Macdonald and Mac Lethal as well...

@LeviHeintzelman-kj7qn

16 күн бұрын

@@MoshMob Mac Lethals new song is awful 💀 his older one was ALOT better, but when they had that battle a few years ago Tom obvi won. What do u think?

@grant5603

16 күн бұрын

yeah only one of those is a 'beef'

@snoox27

16 күн бұрын

Kendrick wasn't beef it was an assassination

@TheComfortInStatic_Official

16 күн бұрын

PR. That's all it is.

I did not have this on my music drama bingo card.... An unlikely beef imo

@nicholaswhite3457

15 күн бұрын

Is it unlikely? Maybe. Is it really even beef? Would you say that genocide is causing "beef"? Either your humanity comes out for victims of mass criminal actions or it doesn't. Beef is a word for arguments between parties, but I have no beef with dictatorships. I have a human reaction of sympathy for those who suffer under them, and complete rejection for those who give legitimacy to said dictatorship. Such as imagine dragons. Beef as a term just trivialize the suffering.

@The_Real_Shrimp

15 күн бұрын

@@nicholaswhite3457 okay

@Decibel_DJing

14 күн бұрын

​@@nicholaswhite3457he's just saying it's not something you'd think would happen, not that deep, calling it a beef doesn't mean they don't feel bad about what's going on.

I remember seeing a comment reading "imagine Dragon is the soundtrack of Minium wage pay" (pretty much imply working a retail job you would hear a lot of imagine dragons) hell Talor Swift is probably the ultimate minimum wage soundtrack that you are force to hear in retail

@tool3rdeye

15 күн бұрын

Pretty much most of the artists who sold their souls and just play poorly written songs for money are on retail radio stations. But the good thing about the sh*tty retail radio stuff is it gets you out of the store quicker.

@hisaceinthehole3426

14 күн бұрын

Thats why I had my ipod or phone and headphones on at ALL times. No matter how many times the boss didn't like it. Do you want a good employee, or a spree ki 11 er? Cuz having to listen to chain store radio will do just that. Cant have 1 or the other.

@sharksplosions584

14 күн бұрын

Hate to tell you this but all us wage slaves played soad at our. Minimum wage jobs. Only difference is it was 20 years ago when soad was still relevant.

@gregoryporch8395

11 күн бұрын

@@daveb4093 As a retail employee, I can promise you Maroon 5 is in the wage deck.

@oknice8117

10 күн бұрын

I'd give anything to not hear "On top of the world" again because retail stores have that song in their playlist, especially knowing their stance on ethnic cleansing now

Imagine all the dragons It's easy if you try

@stuartspot8009

9 күн бұрын

No soad below us Above us only dragons

@damienrockstarthholyonofg3103

3 күн бұрын

You could say I'm a dragon But I'm not the only one I hope one day SOAD will join us And our song could be number 1

@Skdiehsudue1

Күн бұрын

Soad is washed up they had a few hits never got nominated

Imagine dragons has to go all the way to Azerbaijan to find people who will listen to their music

@melissa_abbott

11 күн бұрын

They've got good music and donate loads to charities. They have 150+ songs on their discography and the two you hear on repeat does NOT represent them as a band. Tbh I never get people who hate on artists without even listening how they sound like.

@edwardgyan7586

9 күн бұрын

I don't remember the last time I listened to an Imagine dragons song but this is such a daft comment. They're very popular all around the world.

@MarkMay-cr6bv

4 күн бұрын

@@edwardgyan7586 So what? Milli Vanilli was popular around the world too. "Popularity" in today's generic, auto-tuned world does not necessarily equate to talent, and in fact it very often does not.

@edwardgyan7586

4 күн бұрын

@@MarkMay-cr6bv dude it seems like you came here to argue with yourself. I never talked about if they were talented or not. All I said was the original comment was daft because Imagine dragons IS popular and they don't need to go to Azerbaijan for fans as implied.

@Aenima308

Күн бұрын

@@edwardgyan7586 I was being hyperbolic

Ai-Ai-ia vs I-E-A-I-A-I-O

@animexanimes6223

3 күн бұрын

LOL

Is the show for the government/military or is the show for the people. Because bringing the people music is never a bad thing.

I thought that was Nate Diaz in the thumbnail 😂🥊

@tobysalvaje4511

15 күн бұрын

😂

@MunkeyParts

13 күн бұрын

I'm not surprised mfkr

@eliassolomon5038

11 күн бұрын

I see it now 😂

@dr.loomis4221

10 күн бұрын

I thought it was Finn Balor

@JoeBob-vq7mj

8 күн бұрын

😂🥊

150% with Serj. Dan made a very shitty response, omfg

@felipepestana

7 күн бұрын

@@calmcdonaldp.i.2678 It's not out of thin air. You got a genocide happening in a country, are you really going to play a show there and not talk about it anywhere, including the gig if you really go there? That's not zero reason. And Serj felt that personally because guess what, he is part Armenian. A huge act such as Imagine Dragons should care about this, but it's way easier to wash your hands and avoid any controversy for the sake of money

@yukondave8389

6 күн бұрын

@@felipepestana So System will never play in America ever again?

@RageyRage82

4 күн бұрын

​@@yukondave8389At this point? Might as well, considering the USA is active in multiple genocides right now, especially in Gaza. Music is political, always will be. Art in general is political. However, there is a huge difference with what you're saying. If you're American, wouldn't you want to play your music to appeal to those who share your political message? For instance, there are a lot of Americans who are not complicit in these genocides. For American artists to make art in their home nation, wouldn't it be silly to suggest that they do but play there? Your argument has a false equivalence for that reason. Meanwhile, if I am anti-genocide, I will boycott, block, unfollow, and not play music from these artists.

@JimmySnakes

3 күн бұрын

@@RageyRage82 We get it, you're morally superior to everyone, I agree you should block us.

@RageyRage82

3 күн бұрын

@@JimmySnakes I would absolutely claim moral superiority over any genocide apologist. As for Serj, he is a beacon of such morals on objecting to genocide, and using his influence, and platform to do so. What have you done? 😉

Serj forgot to say that they also suck as artists not just as human beings

@yavuz2638

9 күн бұрын

Serj Tankian is a hypocrite. If he were a truly honest person, he would also talk about the genocides committed by Armenia (Xocalı) or the terrorist organization called A.S.A.L.A that killed Turkish civilians. He doesn't mention these, if the opposite happened, I haven't heard of it. In conclusion, what I see is Serj, who looks like a human rights activist but is essentially an Armenian nationalist.

@bASS227

7 күн бұрын

How are they more popular than SOAD then?

@Freegon444

7 күн бұрын

Easier to digest. I like them alright. But they are less rock and more pop. That's why. Also WHO doesn't know SOAD???

@iamKiluka

7 күн бұрын

@@bASS227Popularity and quality aren’t synonymous in this era.

@BK-201

7 күн бұрын

@@bASS227 millions of flies can't be wrong, right?

Well on one hand, the people of that country not only endured an ethnic cleansing but also having to hear Imagine Dragons.

@Handle_Needs_3_Or_More_Charact

14 күн бұрын

What? The people of Azerbaijan are the ones doing the ethnic cleansing.

@soldierside365

13 күн бұрын

@@Brandonmtlhd Azerbaijan were the ones DOING the ethnic cleansing

All cultures and countries have clashed with each other to such an extent that it's almost impossible for all musicians to play any given performance around the world without being criticisized. Same goes for SOAD. Playing music in one part of the world is guaranteed to anger others who disagree with your choice of venues for performance due to whatever their personal reasons may be. Serj makes a valid point in regards to would one perform for Nazis for example, though.

I'm not sure what to think about this whole situation. On one hand Serj has a point, but on the other, fans shouldn't be deprived of seeing a band they love based on the actions of those in power. Can we hear what Ronnie Ratkeys and Corey Taylor think about this?

@metpach

16 күн бұрын

Yeah, I'm totally sure that imagine dragons has a bunch of fans in the middle east. The only people that are going to an Imagine Dragons show in Azerbaijan, are a bunch of Aras Prince's and their entourage. This wasn't for fans, this was for corporate money. Secondly, if you actually know anybody who enjoys Imagine Dragons, you make sure to mock and shame them into oblivion.

@gumdroplollipop

16 күн бұрын

You are right, imagine dragons is just a bunch of POSs

@soldierside365

16 күн бұрын

Dig a little deeper in to the mentality of the average Azerbaijani. This is not what you say it is. Sincerely, an Armenian

@metpach

16 күн бұрын

@@soldierside365 They did a concert for a bunch of Arab princes, massive corporations, and the elite. It was a cash grab. You know, I've never actually met anyone who legitimately likes Imagine dragons.

@Yes-gp1bt

16 күн бұрын

@@metpachI like imagine dragons. Cross that off your list

I feel sorry for the people of Azerbaijan that they had to endure Imagine Dragons. They are just terrible music.

@caged-melody

16 күн бұрын

😂

@deathring7339

16 күн бұрын

Nah honestly, Imagine Dragons got some bangers, you just gotta sift through the more annoying popular stuff

@natch454

16 күн бұрын

@@deathring7339 hit me with a track to check out?

@Vaerah

16 күн бұрын

I preferred their opening band back when they were Imagination Dragons.

@endlessnameless6494

16 күн бұрын

Never drink and drive. Never text while driving. Please, guys...stay safe on the road

There's a new documentary out talking about U2 playing in Sarajevo amid ethic cleansing there asserting that music was a form of rebellion against the genocide which helped them get through it.

@yesbwana

16 күн бұрын

Yeah, East 17. Hence the line "A time for East Seventeen?" from 'Miss Sarajevo'.

@AchillesKneel

16 күн бұрын

The lyrical content of U2's music is completely different to the lyrical content of imagine dragons. U2 makes music about political conflicts while imagine dragons makes corporate friendly pop music for grocery stores

@yesbwana

16 күн бұрын

@@AchillesKneel no, they both make corporate friendly pop music for grocery stores.

@durrclips746

7 күн бұрын

​@@AchillesKneelyou're literally saying "nuh uh, doesn't count"

@vladimirmihajlovic2485

4 күн бұрын

U2 played there after the war, in 1996. Bruce Dickinson had a concert in the middle of the siege of Sarajevo. Now, that takes guts

I don't even hear guitars in imagine dragons songs anymore.

@scottsmith8162

15 күн бұрын

The audacity.

@shadowwylde

13 күн бұрын

They’ve already said they don’t identify with a specific genre. Don’t know why people keep critiquing them like they’re a rock band

@gregoryporch8395

13 күн бұрын

​@@shadowwyldeBecause "rock" stations are playing this genreless garbage instead of rock bands and have been since about 2011.

@shadowwylde

13 күн бұрын

@@gregoryporch8395 If you don’t like it then change the station or listen to music on Spotify or something. Don’t know why people act like they’re forced to listen to them.

@oSileyCT-7212

12 күн бұрын

​@@shadowwylde imagine dragons is obviously pop.

I mean this is just the way it is simply put... Some people truly cannot help where they were born or where they're located, and the people that occupy the area have no say in what the people in power decide to do... Why should the people that have built their lives there be deprived of seeing their favorite bands..?

I love Serj and he is making a valid point here. But on the other hand , they should have never played a show in America if that was the case. Talking about ethnic cleansing and genocide , what about native americans or Iraqis? System have always raised awareness on political issues or injustices but I feel like thats a double standard.

@pauloctober-gray6397

12 күн бұрын

Don't forget how the asain people were treated during world war 2 also Serj even stated bands play in questionable kingdoms so why isn't he going after them and when Serj stated would you play in russia the big reason is cause there are dangers for americans there but not in azerbaijani.

@aho5666

10 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@pauloctober-gray6397what dangers to Americans are there in Russia which are not present Azerbaijan? (Just being curious, first time hearing of something like that)

@pauloctober-gray6397

10 күн бұрын

@@aho5666 the political tension between America and Russia is high right now with the threat of American soldiers possibly being deployed to help Ukraine and there is the case of the American soldiers that are held prisoner there and i don't think any U.S. Airlines are flying to Russia.

@aho5666

10 күн бұрын

@@pauloctober-gray6397 solders who fight on an opposing side and politicians do not equate to average folk, + people usually know that a nation's political opinion is not a homogeneous mass. Someone being American does not make them Russia-hater automatically. Also, connecting flights exist (Emirates? 2 flights, A380, comfy airport in between). That being said, if you are openly expressing opinions which are against the rulling law then yeah, of course it can backfire. In a lot of countries, not solely Russia. In my opinion, Azerbaijan is not safer or more dangerous, it is just less famous

@thespclflash456

10 күн бұрын

Native thing happened centuries ago. Soad has focused like a dozen songs about the Iraq War.

its a complicated the thing, the people are not the " government" even if you dont like the government should the people of xyz country not be able to see a band hey like ?

@andrewvasquez7872

16 күн бұрын

If you keep voting in a government committing ethnic cleansing you are absolutely pretty much culpable. Last I checked that country wasnt a dictatorship, its a democracy and their leaders are voted in.

@mauruses

15 күн бұрын

If your country is killing other nation, then you are in part responsible. After II WW whole Germany nation was held responsible not only nazis.

@PPodpiska

14 күн бұрын

It's not complicated and you're right. Making a petition to ban concerts is pathetic. There are anti-war people in Azerbaijan, Israel, Russia and all other countries. And dictatorship is called "dictatorship" for a reason, you cannot just overthrow your government. Let people at least enjoy the music.

@gonzalogil5604

13 күн бұрын

its not about the fans supporting or not their government, its about whitewashing the image of said government to the world regardless of the citizens agreeing or not. If anything having the concert is a disservice to those fans who dont agree with the dictatorship because it will make the world believe that everything is fine when it is most defenetly not, thus making a regime change even harder

@eastwaters4082

2 күн бұрын

If I know my government is actively taking resources next door to me, if I have any bit of a heart the last thing I care about is my ears hearing music.

I thought Imagine Dragons was cartoon

@prodigy84bg

11 күн бұрын

From what I've heard from their music, that's a pretty good description.

@RusPitman

10 күн бұрын

How to imagine your dragon

@Dawn95284

10 күн бұрын

Close enough

When my Two favorite artists are beefing 🥲🥲🥲😅

@thechicken2178

4 күн бұрын

for real dawg I love both but i am still gonna jam out to them regardless cuz well why not?

@ItzW0lfR4g3

Күн бұрын

fr id was my fav band until like september 2023 after that i discovered muse, soad and rammstein and they are my new favourite bands i still like id though because they still have an important role in my past, so i'm kinda neutral about the situation even though i'm a litte more on serj's side

Serj: you're basically showing support for a brutal government that causes nothing but suffering by performing there. Alsi Serj: Let's perform mainly in the America.

Love the babymetal shirt!

@sigmaramen

16 күн бұрын

Babymetal is mid

@CharlieChopCham

16 күн бұрын

@@sigmaramendid you really have to go out your way to say that, who hurt u?

@endlessnameless6494

16 күн бұрын

Never drink and drive. Never text while driving. Please, guys...stay safe on the road

@DeathFORcameO

16 күн бұрын

​@@sigmaramen A band from Japan who started really young and being women, and that famous in a lot of countries seems makes them not mid at all.

@CharlieChopCham

13 күн бұрын

@@DeathFORcameO agreed 👍

Music unites everybody.

@DarkLight-Ascending

16 күн бұрын

Truer words have never been spoken.

@carveslipknot56powerman7

16 күн бұрын

@@TheRareVideosXL word is bond

@ytgytgy

16 күн бұрын

music unites everybody...against imagine dragons 😆

@endlessnameless6494

16 күн бұрын

Never drink and drive. Never text while driving. Please, guys...stay safe on the road

@GoddamnTroll

16 күн бұрын

@@DarkLight-Ascending ever heard of Johnny Rebel? Do you think his music unites everyone?

wait till serj hears about what david draiman has been up to 😂

@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001

16 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@jakeangelini9470

16 күн бұрын

What did david do wrong? Nothing.

@SlyRyFry

16 күн бұрын

@@jakeangelini9470 Supporting the genocide happening in Palestine? To each their own it doesn't really matter cause he's just the dude from disturbed, but it is what it is. Nothing wrong with saying you support a little genocide, right?

@adriandossantos4318

16 күн бұрын

​@@jakeangelini9470Signed his name on a bomb...

@Legendarygaming-wu5pc

16 күн бұрын

@@SlyRyFry What's Happening in Gaza is not a Genocide, it's just that the civilians often times are caught in the crossfire because Hamas hides underneath civilian areas. Israel also sends out text messages, calls and flyers saying "Were about to airstrike this location get out now", but Hamas often says to its people "Na you're fine, we'll make sure they won't we'll protect you". By "Protect" they mean hiding under the civilian areas so when Israel goes to Airstrike said location both the terrorists and unfortunately also the civilians die. This is a tactic that Hamas uses to villainize Israel and clearly it unfortunately worked. Hamas takes advantage of how easy it is to Brainwash the west and uses it to their advantage to villainize Israel. And plus Hamas was the one that initiated the war when they committed the Horrific ethnic cleansing of 1200 Jews on 10/7, now they're are people out there that say "Well 10/7 is justified because of hundreds of years of conflict" NO IT IS NOT! So your telling me that committing a Horrific massacre at the Nova Music Festival is justified? To me it isn't. So yeah in conclusion, what's happening in Gaza is not a Genocide. ISRAEL4LIFE!

Imagine talent. That's something Imagine Dragons have to do.

Love your shirt ❤

Wake up, Serj. The whole damn world is on fire. It will continue to burn long after we're gone.

@unruler

10 күн бұрын

Oh, he's woke enough, I'd say.

@iamKiluka

7 күн бұрын

Serj is more awake than you will ever be

@tristankerr3655

6 күн бұрын

​@@iamKilukaNothing awake about being a virtue signaller. But definitely WOKE

I wonder where Imagine Dragon's management stands on this? I mean it's them that booked the gig not the band.

@TimmyTurner421

16 күн бұрын

Bro they don't care! Neither does the band. They want those 💰💰💰 you need to learn to judge people by their actions and not by what they say

@gumdroplollipop

16 күн бұрын

@@TimmyTurner421 when people say things that are dumb af you just have to accept they are just shilling or trolling, i appreciate your heart though

@paulczubryt8644

16 күн бұрын

Azerbaijan flashed that oil money in their faces, so they all turned a blind eye.

@carson3328

16 күн бұрын

You are acting as though artists have no autonomy over what they do

@Rolli6669

16 күн бұрын

@@TimmyTurner421 That is actually kinda my point. The fact that management books gigs to make money not friends. And to add that the band probably didn't even have a clue about any "implications" regarding the gig. To them it's just another show. As far as actions and words, in this instance they kinda don't matter. They will be told by management what to do regardless of their personal view point.

ha! Luis Moreno Ocampo is a well known Argentinian prosecutor. Didn't know he was in the ICC

Well said Serj ❤❤❤

I understand that Dan doesn't want corrupt leaders to get in the way of them playing for their fans. But I still think that it's messed up for them to still play the show after being informed about the dire situation and pleaded not to go. One thing that really concerns me about Dan's response is "Where do you draw the line?" Just as Serj said, would you play in Nazi Germany? Would you play in Russia? Just because Azerbaijan's situation is not as well known as the situations in these other countries, doesn't mean that it's not as terrible. And I don't say this to belittle the situations that those countries and other countries are facing right now. I'm just expressing why I agree with Serj in the fact that what Imagine Dragons did was messed up.

@alwaysabiggafish3305

13 күн бұрын

Yeah, so now the Azerbaijani people get wrapped up and lose out l. 😢

@VanDiemen1969

13 күн бұрын

AC/DC, metallica, pantera and the rest played in Moscow. Did you forget that?

@ersankuneri2689

13 күн бұрын

Armenians sterted that war by bombing civillians, what a stupid take that was

@shrill_pkm

13 күн бұрын

​@@VanDiemen1969 I think Serj was referring to how people wouldn't play in modern Russia now. I believe those bands play in Moscow years/decades ago.

@melissa_abbott

11 күн бұрын

Serj isn't exactly good either. He's hypocritical himself.

Has Serj ever spoke about a leader or regime that he does support?

13 күн бұрын

Exactly

@akgfilming

9 күн бұрын

I think he's on the libertarian-socialist or anarchist side right? so no good states

I definitely see both sides of this argument. Mad respect for SOAD and Imagine Dragons isn’t my favorite band but my 12 yr old kid likes them.

@hisaceinthehole3426

14 күн бұрын

The things we do for our kids, eh? 😅😢 My condolences.

@madbutler6022

14 күн бұрын

@@hisaceinthehole3426 😂 Thanks.

Beautiful

Let’s go system ❤! Love you Serj, remember buying all me and my buddies nearly front row tickets at shoreline ampetgeater 2010 for graduation presents. Loved every song played and couldn’t imagine a song you could write with just this and many topics. Prayers from my home to yours❤.

@Yada_I_Mean

14 күн бұрын

Hey, I was at that show!

This isnt beef. Serj has said he has no beef with them. He doesnt like what they are doing but there is no beef between them. Please dont be like other news outlets and make it smthg its not

@bear7138

14 күн бұрын

lol

@mmmmketchup7404

14 күн бұрын

he seems to talk A LOT of shit for someone who has "no beef"😂

@franciscosaldivar9737

14 күн бұрын

@mmmmketchup7404 opinions are scary I know, that doesn't mean he's talking shit. Kids nowadays are afraid of someone having a difference in opinion and who share them strongly.

@Jax_Augustin

13 күн бұрын

@@mmmmketchup7404 calling someone out for ignoring genocides and supporting those who invoke them is not shit talking, or beef, grow up. Dan and the rest of IM should be ashamed for what they're doing.

13 күн бұрын

It is

They should date and hold hands

Serj should do an angry song about them. I mean the guy can scream about pizzas and make it amusing

Who are these slippery slopes? I imagined dragons…

Imagine who?

@the_seer_0421

15 күн бұрын

Ur mom

Serj is a fuckin angel

The lightning Imagine Dragons gonna get a feel is the electric 😅😂guitar playing from SOAD

Are we going to get a diss track from imagine Dragons 😮now..

@mmmmketchup7404

14 күн бұрын

Honestly, Dan and really the whole band isn't the type to do that. They probably have been avoiding the beef on purpose other than the one response

@RobCamp-rmc_0

11 күн бұрын

Haha, oh no Imagine Dragons makes Drake look like Eminem

@melissa_abbott

11 күн бұрын

They always tend to avoid negative stuff and I really appreciate them for it.

@tozmcgoz8405

4 күн бұрын

@@melissa_abbott Other than releasing music that should be considered illegal for anyone with a sense of hearing. Genuinely the only band I can say actually shouldn't exist. I'd rather listen to modern rap than imagine dragons.

@melissa_abbott

4 күн бұрын

@@tozmcgoz8405 Tell me you haven't heard more than 5 songs from them without telling me. You're trying to be 'critical' but only come off as a clown. 🥰

The imagine dragons playing a show there or not playing a show there does nothing to prevent genocide i love system of down but Serj is out there on this one.

Imagine Dragons should've just added another show in Azerbaijan instead of writing letters.

Serj is right in his last response especially. I really liked the "Russia point"

@maksymbohoslavets

6 күн бұрын

Ironically Armenia is on the same side as Russia in this one, they along with russian forces invaded Azerbaijan, and now thay cant use the moment and retake their land? Is serj gonna be against concerts in Ukraine because they recaptured abunch of ukrainian cities? Its not really an invasion, and the genocid he is talking about is just theoretical. There was one carried out but the turks, a long time ago, it has nothing to do with this situation. What Serj is doing is just saying stuff to his wester audiencenwho doesnt know much about the situation and his armenian audience who is biased and aclully invaded azerbaijan with russians. So its kinda a scummy move if you ask me.He knows most ppl are just gonna jugde this situation on the basis on his music being good and ID sucking balls

Never forget serj supported the current government in armenia ..b the one that lost the fight in large part due to its eagerness to eschew Russia in favor of the west.

@SM-nz9ff

13 күн бұрын

Not the best call in history huh

I’m not defending Imagine Dragons but SOAD has played plenty of shows in countries with terrible human rights records. Maybe worry about your own track record instead of telling other bands where they shouldn’t preform 🤷‍♂️

@eyelessweather

13 күн бұрын

You are right, they are not practice what they preach. Respectfully, but most if not all of "celebrities", "stars" are hypothetical. That's just how I feel.

@gonzalogil5604

13 күн бұрын

in what questionable countries have they played? genuenily curious

@lunarsurfaceproductions

13 күн бұрын

what countries are those ?

@soldierside365

13 күн бұрын

@@littlerockstar5729 like where?

@14halfachance

13 күн бұрын

​@@eyelessweather There are quite a lot of hypothetical celebrities

dope shirt

The second I hear a slippery slope argued my skin crawls

I'd rather starve than listen to Imagine Dragons

@omaracuna2714

12 күн бұрын

I would rather listen to Nickelback's entire discography than imagine dragons

@zackzallie8735

12 күн бұрын

I rather imagine dragons than listen to Imagine Dragons

@jessickalush3305

12 күн бұрын

@@zackzallie8735 😂😂😂

@jeffrrey6791

12 күн бұрын

Look at this graph ​@@omaracuna2714

@xsystem1

11 күн бұрын

​@@omaracuna2714please be kind to yourself 😭

Imagine Dragons BLOW

@Drop_Dead5789

6 күн бұрын

Literally

You know what they say about opinions and assholes...

What other kind of Dragons are there?

@tompriceusmc

16 күн бұрын

Komodo.

@toashez2410

14 күн бұрын

@@tompriceusmc Bearded, Chinese water and sailfin dragons as well. though none of those can eat a goat whole ... Komodo for the win!

I get serj's side, but at the same time you only have a platform to have your voice heard because of your fans and yet you deprive your fans because of a couple of clashing egos.

@andrewvasquez7872

16 күн бұрын

Is that what youre calling a genocide? A "couple of clashing egos"? Jesus

@GoddamnTroll

16 күн бұрын

@@andrewvasquez7872 well, imagine dragons barely has any fans, so it's probably the only place they could sell a show.

@robertsteinberger5667

16 күн бұрын

Plenty of fans in other countries

@mikeygraves16

16 күн бұрын

Well then like Serj said, would that mean you would've felt the same way if nazi Germany was still in effect and thought it was ok to play there just because they have some fans in the country?

@Caramelo23606

15 күн бұрын

Your point being...?

İ watched this video in Karabakh, thank you 😊

@Rag_ab

8 күн бұрын

Soon you wont be

What is an imagination dragon?

Good for Serj

Well.. What about Audioslave´s 2005 show in Cuba ?? Communist dictatorship didn´t stop Tom Morello from playing there !

@toashez2410

14 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082 😂🤣🤡👞

@Enzoraiz

14 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082 Fidel almost caused a nuclear war .... Not far off

@Enzoraiz

14 күн бұрын

@@toashez2410 😷

@Enzoraiz

13 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082 I don´t think you´ve been to a communist country before. Most of those who blame the west for everything, have no idea what it´s like to REALLY live in oppression. My man, learn to value your freedom, it´s expensive .

who tf are imagine dragons?...no one i guess....

@georgehernandez2156

16 күн бұрын

Imagine dragon deez

@chipchippahson

16 күн бұрын

A band that has outsold SOAD by 40 million albums that has been together a third of the time they have.

@Michael-eu1mz

16 күн бұрын

There a band that sucks

@GabrielGomes

16 күн бұрын

Guess we imagined it 🤷

@carveslipknot56powerman7

16 күн бұрын

@@georgehernandez2156 don't lol

I forgot Imagine Dragons existed and now Serj is beefing with them

Tune in next time for Seal vs. Pantera

Kind of siding with serj on this

Ronnie radke fans be like “what does all these ethical critical thinking mean??”

@charlesrichardson6663

15 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082 they suck

This isn't "beef" or "drama". This is a real problem. Seth just recognizes what the actual problem is.

I do believe that, when push comes to shove, both Imagine Dragons and SOAD would make "exceptions" to any sort of country if they saw fit to do so.

13 күн бұрын

Yes especially system and it's leftist members

First Corey and now serj lol, to me I understand where serj is coming from but then again the band is supposed to your around certain countries to be listened to fans around the world, but then again there are also bands that are from the most dangerous countries too and they're widely recognized or talked about. I mean if they have many reasons to go to that certain country I wouldn't mind it that much, but since serj is Armenian; his politics against that country is big news to his people. Unless the band decides to talk to the people and spread awareness (maybe)? But yes I am glad serj came back to make music again and etc, and I'm sure people will be hungry for another album of theirs in SOAD lol. It's just if they had business or a reason to tour therr and that's their business, but going out of your way to berate them for performing there is kinda harsh tbh, I mean if that was me I kind of wish I could spread awareness of that, and be honoured at the same time of the legendary vocalist 😅.

"I;m not going to judge someone or tell someone where to play or not to play." Then immediately judges someone and tells them where and where not to play.

@npckse8508

16 күн бұрын

Yup. The old "stop there" line. I am not_________, BUT. Should always stop after saying those things

@robertsteinberger5667

16 күн бұрын

You are just waiting to find one small inconsistency and forget to see the bigger picture. Whats going on is horrendous and imagine. Dragons worked with amnesty before. They shpuld know better.

@npckse8508

15 күн бұрын

@@robertsteinberger5667 Oh I agree, I just wish people wouldn't couch things like that. If you are passionate and need to educate a fool, just openly do so.

@UADOS11

14 күн бұрын

He meant....unless it's a genocide that the countries government is involved in. You know that's what he meant, you just thought you had a " gotcha moment" you didn't.

@Anthony-dy5cq

13 күн бұрын

The lack of nuance you observe and perceive is extraordinary🤯. Rage against the machine must be a band against doing house chores to you.

Why the long face, Serj?

Someone somewhere here did have a point, when they said musicians play in the US all the time and nobody says nothing. But it's hard to recongnize horror when it's done by those near us.

5:26 hold up, wait a minute. I can respect someone’s opinion, but this is a blatant lie: “I have nothing against this guy nor his band”. Brother, you literally said “Fuck their art, they’re not good human beings, as far as I’m concerned”. Don’t backpedal and be like “oh I respect their music and have nothing against them”. You CLEARLY do have something against them, you’re not only attacking them musically, you’re attacking them personally. I don’t care much for Imagine Dragons at all, but why are you backpedaling on it?

@afanofKarlMarx

15 күн бұрын

L

13 күн бұрын

Exactly

Love SOAD's music but the more I hear from Serj the less I like him. It's admirable to stand up for a cause and to try and fight the good fight, but it's none of his business where other bands decide to play. Every country has performed horrible violations of human rights, just because it's one that's close to your heart doesn't mean you get to be the moral high ground over other bands. I wonder if he contacts every company that trades with Azerbaijan or if he just keeps his criticisms within the music industry? I don't see him criticising Kanye for performing in Russia though. Does he think depriving fans in a dictatorship of their music will change anything the leaders are doing?

@littlerockstar5729

15 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082 don’t be that guy 😂

@Elzzaw

15 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082 Not much of a rebuttal is it?

@adamkrawczynski2570

15 күн бұрын

Its about raising awareness so the world can progress and learn from mistakes. His whole life Serj has been an activist. Only people that have issue with him are simpleminded. Sorry for the bad news.

@Elzzaw

15 күн бұрын

Hearing a lot of insults but not anything proving my statements wrong. You know what people say about those who have to resort to name-calling in order to participate in a discussion?

@littlerockstar5729

15 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082 you have a right to look as simple as you please. Keep up the good work.

Seems like it's more about Serj and him feeding his ego than anything else. Despite his grandstanding he's as ignorant to 99% of the world's suffering as everyone else. He's just pulling a Roger and using his token subject to project how much you(he) suck(s) 3:39 pure narcissism

You are like rock n roll keemstar

Serj is basically like you should think exactly as me or else. The dude is just difficult and opinionated but he speaks softly and sang some good songs so people put up with it I guess.

13 күн бұрын

Facts

@tozmcgoz8405

4 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082 Do you open all of your arguments with insults? Did you get a basic education and learn about argumentative writing? You know that insulting people doesn't really help your case right? It just makes YOU look simple minded.

Look I get that it's a touchy subject, but not every person there is guilty, it's not right to punish everyone for a few ppls actions, Ever think that maybe they were there for the FANS not the government?

13 күн бұрын

Exactly they are there for the supporters not the government

@oo0OAO0oo

5 күн бұрын

L take. You don't support Russia or North Korea either.

@MrFreeGman

5 күн бұрын

@@oo0OAO0oo Yes I do.

@eastwaters4082

2 күн бұрын

Israel is actively blaming and bombing Palestine for the efforts of Hamas, what’s your point? Rules for thee I see.

"Drama Feed", and Serj is right.

"Where do you draw the line?" What!? If you need to ask, then your moral compas is broken.

I understand Serj's point, but do not the people get to decide? Are the people bitching about the band performing?

I really am not a fan of Imagine Dragons, but Serj trying to cancel them is just cringe.

who is Imagine Dragons?

Many people la k pronciples and values and will say anything goes and be proud of that but here it is a clear case. Imagine dragons worked with amnesty before. Clearly just for their image, they should know better.

Imagine dragons is objectively terrible

Yawn...

so hypothetically, if diss tracks started getting written...would we get more SOAD music?

Seems like Serj is using this as a way to make himself seem holier than thou.

And how about the genocide in Ukraine, Serj? Don't you want to criticize your country's ally, ruzzia? Or does this logic work only in one direction - pro-armenian?

I like Serjs music, but isn't that hypocrisy? He is a US based singer, and is still singing there. And US? it's quite a genocide bringers themselves. So, no, his take on this is shit.

@StoneXue

16 күн бұрын

The US has not exactly removed a culture from the face of the earth. You realize thats what genocidal means right?

@haotix13

16 күн бұрын

@@StoneXue And so didn't Azerbaidjan. And I'm not saying that they are white and others are black. What I'm saying is, he says that Azerbaidjan is so bad, how can you tour there. And at the same time he's touring US who flattens thousands, and says something like "it's acceptable sacrifice". As I said - hypocrisy.

@baykalcetinel6511

16 күн бұрын

⁠@@StoneXueNative Americans?

@StoneXue

15 күн бұрын

@@baykalcetinel6511 Do they still exist? Those wars happened long before any country would have interveined. We it was a serious thing to actually do that to native americans in the 1600s and 1700s, it would have happened. I know you get to feel all high and mighty and super woke bringing up native americans. Guess what though? Not a single patch of dirt on this planet that has not changed hands HUNDREDS of times by the spilling of blood and not a single human alive today can claim their ancestry were not the aggressors in some of that blood spilling. Thought you had a gotcha didnt ya? No, history is rife with brutal acts by all societies. There is no society no culture, no race no people that are actually innocent of this.

@StoneXue

15 күн бұрын

@@haotix13 Most people are hypocrites. You would actually have a difficult time finding anyone who is not at some level including when you look in the mirror. Its just human nature and the fact that geo-politics are so complex now and business is so complex and everything is so complex it would be difficult to master it all to the degree you did not risk being a hypocrite on something

Well all you have to do is listen to there music to understand what type of people they are

imagine dragons- thunder cures genocide apparently

Artists judging Artists is childish unprofessional behavior. If imagine dragons brings joy to an area under strife, it could bring awareness and something positive can happen in the future. Serj isn't saving anybody. He is just as hypocritical as anyone he tries to call out. Corny.

Serj is right.

Imagine there’s no dragons It’s easy if you try

I don't give a shit about imagine dragons but will Serj also be calling out 30 seconds to mars for their upcoming show in Baku October 22nd? What about Formula 1? They race in Baku September 13th. I find it really strange to single out this one band and makes me wonder if Serj has his own personal agenda against them.

@thenovruzhoiday5112

12 күн бұрын

Mate, I believe that he will not be able to argue(prove) any of the facts that he put forward. You cannot find a single fact that corresponds to reality from ones that he mentioned. A whole new most impudent way of propaganda.

@thenovruzhoiday5112

11 күн бұрын

@@sebastianfischer2082I have said previously if it is all of your argumentation I have nothing to discuss with you. after 10s of comments I couldn’t get your opinion about what am I not right with. If you can prove any of the facts that he stated “as you said” do it then. I would kindly debate. at this stage there is no question of constructive dialogue , since we can not exchange our thoughts .

For reasons I have never understood, our US government and the people of the US, don't seem to give a crap about Armenian people. This stuff has been going on for ages and nothing ever changes. Almost as if the interests in that region of the world are more important than the plight of those people.

@nuran_lion

16 күн бұрын

Which stuff ?

@Elzzaw

15 күн бұрын

You mean the same government that sat back and let Nazi Germany do everything they did until they were dragged into the war? America only has an interest if it benefits them, same goes for the majority of the world. Other countries are not of concern to them unless they have a stake in the outcomes.

@npckse8508

15 күн бұрын

@@nuran_lion The systematic genocide and erasure of the Armenian peoples.

@akgfilming

9 күн бұрын

Narrow geopolitical views, honestly. Because the USA supports other 'western-aligned' countries which in their conflicts are sometimes in the right (Ukraine, Kosovo) but in other cases, like with Azerbaijan, (and israel) can be very much in the wrong, but they support them just by proxy of being against Russia/china and allies, to whatever extent (Armenia basically isn't a Russian ally anymore iirc they just applied to leave csto)

@nuran_lion

8 күн бұрын

@@akgfilming USA haven’t ever had shown any clear and unambiguous opinion about Karabakh dispute

Serj doesn't like dictators... But when you speak about Venezuela's Chávez or Maduro, he just loves them.

@anon11.

9 күн бұрын

I think he apologized for that.

@joseabermudeza8098

9 күн бұрын

@@anon11. I didn't know that. Gonna find out

@Rag_ab

8 күн бұрын

He cleared that up just saying

@joseabermudeza8098

7 күн бұрын

@@Rag_ab you are right. I just saw bc I wasn't informed

@maksymbohoslavets

6 күн бұрын

Serj clearly doesnt mind armenian dictators and taking ppls land as long as the land is azerbaijani))

Rich people arguing about being virtuous is so low on my list of things to care about that I regret even hearing about this stupid fued.

@DJ2109

8 күн бұрын

best comment here

And yet the world keeps turning