There’s no legal document you can sign that prohibits you from suing someone other than a settlement agreement

@ryansheffield5930

8 күн бұрын

Correct, but most people don’t realize that. So the intent is to wave it in people’s faces that they signed away there right to sue and hope they just drop it, if it goes to court it would obviously be dismissed, but it still cuts down the number of lawsuits the company has to deal with

@Nysvarth

8 күн бұрын

What about every liability waiver ever?

@niyablake

8 күн бұрын

No you can sign an arbitration agreement that will give up that right

@niyablake

8 күн бұрын

Scratch what I said. Some stole this story in the original there was nothing about arbitration

@DW-le5gd

8 күн бұрын

You can sue if you sign an arbitration clause. It's just a lot more difficult. Liability waivers require loopholes and jumping around fine print, so again, it is still possible, just very unlikely if it's air-tight.

I remember thist story. Turns out the Lawyer for the company walked into the CEO's office and told him she would not be defending this case and they needed outside Counsel. There was a settlement, the guy got his job back and a Fair raise, an apology from the CEO, and the CEO reached out to the Company that he applied to and explained exactly what had happened. There were firings and demotions. His boss apologized, OP understood where he was coming from, but would never trust him again. OP was going to hide out in the company for a year or so and rebuild his reputation and then go look for another position elsewhere.

@eric98292

5 күн бұрын

Good, he can't trust them and needs to find a better job.

@thisreplysection1050

4 күн бұрын

Good, i wouldn‘t wanna keep working for a company that just threw me under the bus like that

@graceray2283

4 күн бұрын

Thank you for the ending. It seemed like an abrupt place for the post to end.

@watcherquek263

4 күн бұрын

Hope that apology was written with company letterhead, signed by CEO and Chairman.

@Rorschachqp

4 күн бұрын

Sad ending. If I was his lawyer, I would have talked by client out of it. I would have asked for two moons and then settle for half of that.

I would have gone through with the lawsuit no matter what. They defamed you, slandered you, fired you, and didn't have the common decency to properly investigate some very serious charges against you. A lawsuit is the only way to move forward. How many people are they going to screw over in the future? How many innocent people are going to have to have their lives ruined. How many innocent people have offed themselves over a lie? Take a stand for once.

He should have made the company contact the one that got the bad reference and explain what happened. Now, an entire pool of people believes he is a rapist

@drunklink350

7 күн бұрын

Won't help. Once you get that label, it sticks. The other company will say we can't take that risk and rightfully so

@legacyplays6050

7 күн бұрын

@@drunklink350how rightfully so? That just sounds like a bunch of 💩. Fair enough if he actually did it and had a criminal case against him but there were no such thing however there was a case against the 2 women and the company so the company should have to explain what’s happened to that other company he tried to work at.

@Alienator-999

7 күн бұрын

@@legacyplays6050 regardless of it being proved he was innocent the label of “potential rapist” follows him everyone since somebody else told a Company higher up he was under investigation for it. If anyone asks about his history they’ll be forced to share he was accused of it and it’ll make others unsure of him. Anyone that is accused of rape will have that accusation follow them everywhere even when they’re proved to be 100% innocent of that accusation. Once it is thrown at you there’s no getting rid of it.

@legacyplays6050

5 күн бұрын

@@Alienator-999I know that but the company and the person should have to give a apologise to the new company and explain.

@markesquire6470

5 күн бұрын

​@Alienator-999 Only if they are accused and taken to court. This investigation and accusation took place at his company, and no legal action was involved yet. No one will ever have to put "accused for rape" when talking about him. Also, the company did infact have a word with the other company as well. It isn't like all the big companies have a word with each other, so the HR department at the other company are likely the only people tha5 even know about that. As when hiring someone, you aren't really allowed to talk about their profile with the workers.

The irony is that arbitration doesn’t apply when it comes to sexual assault cases

@DivusMagus

2 күн бұрын

Arbitration rarely is able to be forced regardless of it being signed or not.

@justiron2999

2 күн бұрын

Or on illegal things

The boss did not investigate clearly he should know theres surveillance so he should be sued for unrightful termination

@genebodjtb

5 күн бұрын

especially when he was able to get an interview with some other company but but the original company's records still prove that he was "terminated for improper behavior"

Bro should’ve gone scorched earth an accusation of that caliber sticks with a man forever even if proven innocent

@Stronghand-yw1lk

5 күн бұрын

Fucking right!

@DerpLvIAsian

4 күн бұрын

Agreed, though i would sue the company first and get whatever i can out of that suit before i go scorched earth

@andrewhoughton8606

3 күн бұрын

I get the impression that upper management didn't fully know everything until they got hit with the lawsuit.

There's a reason she was getting divorced...

I’d still be suing. Screw that apology and screw the people who lied about you.

I am not sure why OP would want to go back to that company.

@niyablake

8 күн бұрын

This is stolen story rewritten. In the original there was no mention of arbitration

@niyablake

8 күн бұрын

Because if he did';t get the job back he would have been branded. This is a stolen story . In original there was no arbitration . OP also explained that he applied for other jobs and when he was offered one some from the old company let it slipped that he was fired and he lost the new job . Op only stayed there a year and left

@daniellemitchell3118

4 күн бұрын

It said that he would work there for a year or two and then move on.

Non-arbitration contracts are considered null and void if the company violates the law in the process of you working there or being fired. As op was fired through negligence of the company on a false basis, arbitration is not required

@WhermstDidIAsk

8 күн бұрын

Also, made this comment before finishing the whole thing, company didn't even have him sign it initially, which makes it even funnier

@nickrogers3624

8 күн бұрын

@@WhermstDidIAskand even further continuing, had he signed the agreement rhere is technically nothing preventing him from suing, but it would certainly be more challenging with that signed paper.

@justcallmeshorty240

6 күн бұрын

@@nickrogers3624 he could have signed it after being fired, but it would have been nill anyways. Legal documents have to have dates for a reason

@nickrogers3624

6 күн бұрын

@@justcallmeshorty240 I meant prior, when he was supposed to sign it according to the company.

Also, good to actually have a happy ending to one of these stories.

@BulletsAA

4 күн бұрын

the true happy ending would be him taking the company to court for a MASSIVE judgement and either joyce and/or deborah going behind bars.

Always be a buddy to a IT guy.

Offered my job back? Yeah they can kick rocks. Two years full salary, a public apology and the CEO must PERSONALLY call and write to every single company with whom I interviewed explaining the truth of the situation or I'll see you in court.

Remember everyone "BELIEVE ALL WOMEN" because they never lie and they'll never take advantage of the "me too" furor to benefit themselves or indulge their petty misandry..... they're essentially angels being hunted by us awful men. poor victimized women😢

@michelewalburn4376

6 күн бұрын

Nobody acts like that. Also nobody believes stuff like that except abusers and perverts.

@jesschen5513

6 күн бұрын

​your the misandry, there have been hundreds of false accusations against men who have done nothing wrong for the pettiest of reasons. All the women is such disputes get no repercussions, and the men have their lives ruined. Often times with no evidence. It's almost always guilty until proven innocent in these cases, and this behavior spits in the face of actual victims. It's all to common for men to be accused with no evidence, and often times they are given the guilty verdict without evidence.

@thaKitsune

6 күн бұрын

Statistically speaking he is right, most grope cases tent to be either poorly investigateted or out right false allegations, as the CDC and fbi reluctantly disclose in 2023

@svenolsen8184

6 күн бұрын

​@jesschen5513 yikes, are you deaf to sarcasm?

@jesschen5513

6 күн бұрын

@@svenolsen8184 I was talking about @michelewalburn4376

Could he still go after Joyce? She clearly was the driver behind all of this, and took actions to prevent the truth from coming to light. Also, I 1000% think he should still go after Deborah. Both need to be taught false accusations are a serious matter

@andrewhoughton8606

3 күн бұрын

As it sounds like the aligation was kept internal until they told the other company it be hard to use for false allegation

Arbitration is not for criminal acts what she did is file a false criminal report. That does not go through arbitration. That means you get your ass thrown in jail and you get sued.

@andrewhoughton8606

3 күн бұрын

Expect it was only to HR and not police

And that is why the Pence Rule is necessary. Never ever be alone with a woman without someone else present.

@mnomadvfx

5 күн бұрын

The Pence Rule is 9000% because he was caught getting his wick wet by his wife and she threatened to tank his political career if he so much as stuck a toe out of line again. Woman has him on a short leash now - no wonder he always looks like he has a stick up his azz 🤣🤣

“Zero tolerance policy”? You cannot do that based on hearsay

I wouldn't accept that job back, they'll be looking for any opportunity to fire you.

Remember folks. YOU CAN ALWAYS SUE THE TORT FEASOR! (In this case the person who actually made the original defamatory claim.) Sue her and the rest of the company will be investigated. Then sue the OTHER tort feasor who spread it to the job OP applied for.

I remember the story and I was shocked that op didn’t reach out to the soon to be ex husband of his accuser and help him in his divorce with her.

Not even close to enough.

Never tell them until you get the evidence through a friend or subpoena

Arbitration doesn't include damaging reputation. I'd tell the boss you best brush up on your resume because once my attorney is done, the company owner is going to be pissed.

@andrewhoughton8606

3 күн бұрын

It does sound like the own and CEO where not old until the lawsuit hit

Lesson learned, always sue.

Sue them to absolute hell and back!

Arbitration agreements end when your contact does. The instant they fired him, it would have been null, even if he'd signed it

He should have gotten an attorney as soon as the video surveillance came into play. He should have let the attorney talk to HR.

Sorry, entirely unrelated to the actual story, but I hate watching people completely ruin houses with the white and gray theme, bland, and ugly.😂

@obsidianfrost9514

8 күн бұрын

A lot of people do it before selling a home because it's easier to redo as you like

@mnomadvfx

5 күн бұрын

@@obsidianfrost9514 Ironically for me just seeing that color scheme would make me less interested in it regardless of what I might plan to do with it. I also don't want to have to repaint an entire frickin house after moving in. Thanks but no thanks.

I never would have accepted the job to work there again. After everything that happened? Sure it was HR who was the cause of all this, but no one dared question them nor handled it professionally. I would have sued for back pay, a year of salary, and a public apology.

@ronmaximilian6953

3 күн бұрын

The problem is that HR managers at other companies would see you as a threat

I would still sue

This is why I cannot get behind the term "believe all women"

@greenaum

5 күн бұрын

You should never believe anybody without some decent evidence. Being female isn't an exception to that. Women are actually able to lie, the more you learn.

Why was it only an internal investigation and not police

Bro. Must have loved his job. Cause that sound like a million dollar case.

I will sue

I wouldn't return to that company...I'd just take that money and go look for a job elsewhere....and I'd learn that company a terrible review.

See, this is why "zero tolerance" policies are always fucking stupid.

First of all, this man was incredibly lucky. No one should ever take a person into private in a corporation unless there is a recording of it and everyone is made aware of it. Second of all, the HR manager completely failed his or her job and should also have been fired.

No arbitration agreement protects a company from criminal conduct on the part of the company

I would honestly be extremely tempted to continue with the suit. The fuckers need a lesson and the OP has the cards.

I would not have gone back there and took them for all I could.

Click the link, it will describe the whole encounter. It does involve him getting his job back. The woman being fired. Defamation cases against another woman. The accussing woman attempted to have evidence destroyed.

Bro challenged a shark and jumped in the ring with a whale😂

I would’ve sued for everything and the kitchen sink. This is an easy win at court. He would never have to work again. But hey, you do you man.

The balls on this company that to say that OP waived the right to sue them, realized he hadn't and then send him papers to actually do that while he is getting legal council.

go to court take their money

@mikumiku3897

3 күн бұрын

Should sue the employee too for false accusation

It doesn't really feel very adequate that they accused him of rape and spread it around town with the false allegation that he was being criminally charged with it. Like that shit ends people's life in some situations. They should totally be made pay for it.

What the hell was Joyce’s beef with OP that she basically that as soon as she found a way to ruin his life she took it

I don’t know if I’d want my job back tbh if that was me I’d move on

The most important thing I don't think was said is did he take that deal?

That's at-will employment for ya...

Would of gone sue the company for wrongful termination and sue that woman for defamation

This dude is a G. He’s gonna have the top guys by the balls from now on.

Honestly that settlement is shit for what the guys higher ups of that company did

I just want to point out that everyone that did something horribly wrong in this story was a woman

@mnomadvfx

5 күн бұрын

That being said, cameras or not the guy was a bonehead for having that meeting where nobody else could see. If you are in a workplace environment and are forced to deal with a member of the opposite sex then you either bring a camera to record it, or go to a place where you know their is working surveillance and make them fully aware that they are being recorded.

Old story, changed by channel owner at the end, plenty of stuff missing.

This is clearly rage bait. Like like too much of us doesn’t make sense.

Sir you made one mistake you should have never went in there with her alone you should have taken another female who you trusted who would be honest with you

Evil F-ing B.

So wtf did they investigate

What is the killer here,is that if a guy made the false accusation he wouldn't be taken seriously. Folks need to stop assuming first,its like the saying goes,Innocent before guilty.

@michelewalburn4376

6 күн бұрын

Sadly that's often true. That's also why true feminists are fighting to change it.

@mnomadvfx

5 күн бұрын

Given most HR departments are run by women that's a given. Best case scenario you will be ignored. Worst case they will drum up some vague language in your employment contract and have you dismissed.

Crap ending

I would take a shitty settlement. I fucking sue that company silly!

@dogguy8603

8 күн бұрын

You do realize that taking a settlement means you can't sue them right?

@mnomadvfx

5 күн бұрын

@@dogguy8603 He sounds non native English. I thjink he meant to say "wouldn't take" instead of "would take" which makes a lot more sense.

Women bad