admitting a mistake and showing the proper solution makes you a better teacher and a better youtuber, so well done

@1Oldroot

9 ай бұрын

YEEEEEEs

@1Oldroot

9 ай бұрын

*Yes

Wow! Thanks for acknowledging it! Very rare do we see people correcting something they got wrong or missed, especially making another video on it!

@Sameer_S_Kulkarni

Жыл бұрын

In my experience usually most content creators accept their mistakes in the comment section (or as a short snippet in their next video) but yes, making a whole video on it is quite rare.

@bendobert9901

Жыл бұрын

9

@kamnasharma6143

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm talking about "making a whole video". Writing the moves in the comment section would have been a bit confusing for some people and time consuming as well at the same time. He made a whole video adding the thing he had missed, nice dedication!

@kamnasharma6143

Жыл бұрын

But I have watched like only 10 youtubers till now so a "short snippet" might really be the case.

@Sameer_S_Kulkarni

Жыл бұрын

@@kamnasharma6143 no problem, I just stated my opinion. Absolutely no intention to make you feel awkward or uncomfortable. Cheers! :)

That just adds to the awesomeness of the puzzle. Thanks, Nelson!

@thiccnoodles6767

Жыл бұрын

Talking about puzzles (duh) how do we send m. Nelson "our" puzzles?

so Kf6 was a fascinating "double threat" that was going to have checkmate in 2, and Black can't stop both plans. I know it's easy to get caught up in one idea and miss a key feature (Been there, done that). No need to be embarrassed Nelson! It happens to the best of us. We all have blindspots :).

@CatSurfer

Жыл бұрын

Kf6*

@arthurrtang9670

Жыл бұрын

@@CatSurfer yep, thanks.

One who acknowledges their mistakes becomes "Great" 👏👍

Rather than Apologize for Missing It, Celebrate the fact that You Attracted the kinds of Viewers who Caught it.

👍 We’re not mad! Awesome extra bonus bits!!

This is so cool thank you so much for this follow up!

I always watch your videos. And very rare that people who had made mistake correct it. All your videos are very entertaining. Keep it up.

Idea: make a book review about Yasser seirawan's winning chess tactics . Keep up the good work !

In these sorts of puzzles every piece serves a purpose. The black bishop stops the black rook moving to a square that doesn't block any pawn. Furthermore the black bishop must be a bishop as any other piece would allow the mate in 3 to be stopped

How can they prevent pushing the g4 pawn? Edit: Black moves their bishop one space to unblock their rook and put it behind the pawn.

I don't know why no one notice, but there's a 3 - 5 moves check mate. 1w. It's the common first move rook to a4 1b. then black force to advance pawn a to queen 2w. push b pawn, thus giving double threat 2b. best move is push b pawn for double queen (3 moves if the queen takes the rook, then promote pawn to queen) 3w. threat king using rook to a8 3b. queen at a1 takes the rook at a8 4w. promote pawn to queen while taking the b-queen 4b. protect the king using queen at b1 Then you know what happens, It's not that bad

@siliconvalley577

Жыл бұрын

Also cool, but it's slower than the other mate, so it's not acknowledged as a solution.

@TheM4R3

Жыл бұрын

The point is mate in 3 moves, anything more that that doesn't count.

I couldn't figure out what was wrong with: 1. c7 c1/Q 2. Rc4 Qxc4 3. Rxc4 (any move) 4. c8/Q# Finally realized it didn't satisfy the mate-in-3 requirement!

I know it's not mate in 3 But Can't we slide the rook to a4 then push the pawn To b7 It's like rook a4 They make a queen on a1 Pawn b7 If they take the rook it's mate If they make a queen on b1 Rook a8 check Queen takes on a8 pawn takes queen check Queen b7 blocks and then queen takes queen

Conspiracy Theory: He knew he missed it and just wanted to make a second video. Brilliant Move!

so basically, after you find the first move Kf6, the concept of the puzzle is "use the mate in 2 plan on the file the black rook is standing after black's move". INSANE

@rosiefay7283

Жыл бұрын

That's right. All those tries you thought didn't work? They do, after all, and you need them!

one of the very few puzzles I could guess the moves of once you pointed out there's other variations.

wow very nice video, rare to see a youtuber make a new video to correct a mistake :). Sorry I had just seen the previous video and left a long comment about this 2nd problem heh :P. Hope the comment will still be instructive ( tried to explain the notions of "tries", "key", "variants", etc.. which are a very very important part of problem composition (as many themes depend on them, exchanged mates, cycles, etc..).

Show again how amazing cess is! And thumbs up for the creator of that problem. And thank you Nelson for explaining this problem for us.

The only good KZread apology video

trying to understand the winning zone and corresponding squares when there is more than one pawn.... any suggestions? anyone....

I don't know if you really needed to apologize. Still, I did think that puzzle was odd with the rook there and I'm glad you called out your own oversight so that we could see the rest of the solution. Thanks for the video correction.

How did black end up with all those pawns there?

Does that mean that this puzzle now gets first place?

Now, that explains why there is a bishop on g1.

You can also play Rx e4, e-pawn to queen, Rx d5 and black can't defend against both threats. But it feels like this solution was perhaps not intended as it is not very fancy.

@Rocky64

Жыл бұрын

1.Rxe5? doesn't mate in 3: 1...e1=Q 2.Rxd6 and the only threat is 3.Rd8 mate, easily stopped by 2...d1=Q or even 2...Qxe5.

Actually switching back to the original plan is the very theme of the composition.

well i think u also missed something about the second puzzle where in one of the lines the queen moves do different square in the same diagonal , the opponent still has the option to promote and pin our queen u didnt cover that part tho

Why does the puzzle feature a bishop on g8?

Missed the move and won my heart.

Thank you for correcting the puzzle. I like the forced blocking wherever the rook moves to. What a pity this puzzle had to compete with the other one in 1933, resulting in 2nd rank only.

@miklosmohai6585

Жыл бұрын

Actually, both of these puzzles were submitted from Hungary! It shows how strong we used to be in chess. The first one was from Budapest, this one from Pesterzsébet (slightly misspelled in the video), which is now also a suburb of Budapest, but in 1933 it was still a separate town.

@ralkadde

Жыл бұрын

@@miklosmohai6585 ​ Thank you for the information. Yes, German Wikipedia redirects to the 20th district of Budapest. Am glad Nelson always gives credit to the composers; despite he got sometimes in trouble with our European accents and umlauts. :)

can someone explain to me why rook to d6 is not a feasible option? if they try make the queen we just push the c pawn, and 1. if they take the rook we get a queen and it's a mate once they sacrifice (cause they have to). 2. If they try to promote another queen on the c file, we just check with the rook, and if they take the rook with the d file queen we take the queen with the c pawn promoting it to a queen therefore delivering the mate. I know I'm probably missing something but can someone explain to me what it is, since I just don't understand. thanks!

@game_ender4317

Жыл бұрын

After Rxd6 d8=Q c7, black will play Qxd6+, ruining the whole thing.

@paklang8667

Жыл бұрын

It is mate in three,you spend two move after move king and knight,you can't capture that pawn because it will delaying the checkmate 3 move.hope this is help..thankyou

@touyakami1406

Жыл бұрын

They delay the c file promotion to just take the rook 1. d4xd6, d1 2. c7, d1xd6 check 3. kf5xd6, c1 now your c pawn can't capture on d8 and to add insult to injury their rook has the open d file to potentially check on d6 again

@craft_warrior177

Жыл бұрын

I'm not particularly good at chess, but I think it's because the puzzle specifically says mate in 3

@EELAAmc

Жыл бұрын

@@craft_warrior177 ah right, that makes sense. Didn't pay too much attention to that, I've just been playing a lot of puzzles lately so I was just tryna find a way to force mate and that seemed like one. Thanks!

3:37 Couldn't you also play Rf4 after check? If black takes with pawn -> queen is blocked by later pawn and knight delivers checkmate If black takes with queen -> white takes with rook and regardless of black next move white delivers CM with knight

@Rocky64

Жыл бұрын

Note the text in blue at 3:37.

If black plays 1...Bh2, the 2 different knight maneuvers are the only 2 ways to win. On any promotion to a knight or bishop on black's first move, either knight maneuver or the 2 move on that file can win, of course 1...e8=N or B then 2. RxPe5 the d rook would mate or if black doesn't capture the rook, then the e rook mates. Thanks for pointing out the crucial feature of the rook blocking it's own promotions.

Thanks for acknowledging it! But you should also put a notice in the original video that links to this one. The reason: people who will find or have found your chanel recently will first watch the original video (youtube suggestion) without knowing the existence of this video, spot the line you missed and comment... for nothing... 3 months after this acknowledgement... like me! Just put a link :)

i saw it but i doubted my abilities as a chess player to comment cause im only 3 years into chess. i saw a1 pawn to prevent horsey line.

Nelson, what is your Fide ID?

but why is the bishop there?

My first idea was move the rook from d4 to c4 to create barrier between black and white pawn on the "c" line, then win the game by promoting c6 pawn.

@lordclockworks1570

Жыл бұрын

That would be mate-in-4 though? You move a rook on c4 (1), Black gets c1 queen, Pawn marches on c7 (2), black captures a rook on c4, and now you need to capture the queen on c4 as the 3d move otherwise she'll capture your pawn-turn-queen on c8.

Now I don't feel so bad when I get careless in my games or puzzles. If an NM like Nelson can be careless, even if it's once in a blue moon, it can certainly happen to any average joe like myself, albeit much more frequently.

2:40 1... e1q allows Qxe4 to delay if 2. Ne7 forcing Ng7 in that case. Is there any reason why Ng7 doesn't work in all cases. Can we forget about Ne7 altogether? Thanks for the update, I missed potential check from black too - nice puzzle.

@ryangolden8844

Жыл бұрын

Ke7 becomes available

@fifiwoof1969

Жыл бұрын

@@ryangolden8844 after Kf6?

@Rocky64

Жыл бұрын

That's a good question and the answer is yes, both knight threats are necessary. After 1.Kf6! if Black queens one of the a/b/c-pawns, e.g. 1...a1=Q, then 2.Ng7? fails to 2...Qa2!, so here 2.Ne7 is necessary.

@fifiwoof1969

Жыл бұрын

@@Rocky64 EXCELLENT! Thankyou :-)

*F Bőhm, Pesterzsébet. I noticed that both prizes were won by people in Hungary.

@benprescott9217

Жыл бұрын

If they were hungry they should have just eaten a snack lol

@DadgeCity

Жыл бұрын

Well, at least we now all know that Ben has an IQ under 100.

@benprescott9217

Жыл бұрын

@@DadgeCity Did you not realise I was joking?

Really makes me wonder why this puzzle won 2nd prize

The board is set up backward: Black pieces on ranks one and two!

Next video : I need to apologize again

Yeah, most people usually try to promote 6 of their pawns at the same time, and leaving a rook in front of them to defend them, so this is a pretty common position

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Rook d6 and if they get a queen to stop it then rook to d7 and if they take you take with the pawn and they can’t stop you from promoting to a queen or rook and checkmating, if they don’t take the rook on d6 then you checkmate by moving it to d8

@Rocky64

Жыл бұрын

This is a mate-in-3 problem and what you suggested simply fails to do it in three moves. After 1.Rxd6? d1=Q!, 2.Rd7 doesn't do anything and even if Black plays a random move like 2...a1=Q, the queen on d1 is still stopping 3.Rd8 mate.

You're the Best Nelson!!!!¡¡¡¡¡¡

Wait, Wait! A Low 700 rated player objects! There is also several moves that are mate in 4, Rook to a4, Pawn to a1 and promotes obviously so this is easy now Pawn to b1 then rook to a8 then qxa8 then pawn takes a8 and becomes a rook or queen I'll go with rook here, Then obviously queen to b8 to block the check but rxb8 is checkmate without changing plans I am 700 elo and i could see that is there any rebuttal to the move i am quoting?

Awesome puzzle!

Thank you.

Why is there a random bishop sitting on g1?

@BlaBla-hq1bu

Жыл бұрын

To block the rook moving to the right.

@meanderingmarley3910

Жыл бұрын

Excellent question! Nelson's second video seems to indicate that every piece plays some role in the puzzle. So, what is the Bishop's hidden talent? 🤔

@minhdoantuan8807

Жыл бұрын

@@meanderingmarley3910 its hidden talent is can be replaced by black knight, bc it only role is to block black rook

@meanderingmarley3910

Жыл бұрын

@@minhdoantuan8807 Oh, well. Like they say in show business: "There are no small parts."

Yeah. Otherwise, pieces on f1 and g1 would be redundant.

I didnt realize that lmao

What about the bishop on g1

@Sameer_S_Kulkarni

Жыл бұрын

It is also an important piece in this puzzle. Without that bishop it wouldn't be possible for white to mate in 3 moves. It prevents the black rook from moving to g1 or h1. If that was possible then all the subset of checkmates in this video would be prevented by the pawns...

@Trixbeat

Жыл бұрын

I'm more interested with what the white pawns on g4 and h4 are supposed to be. I know at least one of them is needed to stop Rh4 and Rh8 mate, but I'm wondering why the creator put two

@sgtnubbings6501

Жыл бұрын

@@TrixbeatI guess to prevent Rg1 where the Rook can prevent the threats of the Knight, by taking on either g7 or g6, whilst also clearing f1 square for promotion.

@kiraleskirales

Жыл бұрын

@@Trixbeat I think that Black needs three moves to make a check, so if the h pawn was not there you could simply move the g pawn up and go for a straightforward mate Rh4 and Rh8#

I didnt know i only looked at comments im a beginner rank

Umm, Nelson, I have a question. What if black moves there bishop without moving their rook for the entire endgame? How can white still checkmate black's king. Thank you

@Rocky64

Жыл бұрын

Watch this part 2:22 again and you'll see why a black bishop move won't stop White's threats with the knight.

@emperordestorah3497

Жыл бұрын

@@Rocky64 thanks for clearing my doubt =)

Who also think 🤔 about d7

At 3:23 can't you just Block the check with rook?

@spd-kv6sd

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but you lose the game, because the queen takes. If rook takes, pawn takes and you can't deliever a check by any means.

@TonyTank721

Жыл бұрын

If this were a normal game you could, and even still win, but it would not be a solution to the mate-in-3 puzzle.

@craft_warrior177

Жыл бұрын

@@TonyTank721 yeah the issue is just that it's a mate in 3, nothing else

@Latvian.gymbro

Жыл бұрын

@@spd-kv6sd knight g6 is checkmate

@chiefgitsu

Жыл бұрын

@@Latvian.gymbro can't because the white king is in check

Or you can just plak rook b4 and not complicate :)

May 6, 2023

this whole video is confusing to me doesn't c7 c1 Rc4 Qxc4 Rxc4 c8Q just win in every situation even if black tries something slightly different

@sgtnubbings6501

Жыл бұрын

It does, there are in fact a whole number of various ways to win, however this puzzle is specifically supposed to be solved as a mate in 3 moves, any extra moves beyond that aren't valid

KZread Apology videos🗿

but there is still another way to win.

Hey there :D

Don't we have mate in 2, though? With Ng7, Ne6#?

@chiefgitsu

Жыл бұрын

no because then the king can go to e7

I thought it was black to play

If you want to information on the internet don't ask a question say something wrong, and if you want engagement in your comments section say something wrong in your video

This was delicious

"I would like to remove my own queening pawn with my rook. Yes, you heard that right" -Black

:)

first

@user-fc3sw6ft9s

Жыл бұрын

No

And you want to be a national master?!? booo! Worse in analysis than hans niemann lol I guess you thought that chess speaks for itself, so you didn't have to show it :)

The FEN for my puzzle: 2K5/PP6/pk1p4/npb2n2/2rpb2p/4ppp1/8/6rq w - - 0 1 White to play and win I ain't gonna give in until it gets featured lol