Such a little Crybaby 😭

@christiansrcs7789

Жыл бұрын

bruhh the fire teem was such a good dell!!!! you should of got it and shipped it to someone in the usa to ship it to u!!!

@danielcarvajalblanco3476

Жыл бұрын

Hurt, but is truth. We are actually in the bottom of the queue from U.S. And happens like with imports from another country's like Spain. Most of that is because the Brexit and the new trade agreements.

@Truth12345

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha, anyways thx for speaking out fur us.

@tlrracer8780

Жыл бұрын

Looks like tomley rc is buying Christmas for everyone put your orders in

@grumpygrandpa3640

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes truth hurts 👍

Here in Brazil we call it black fraud. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family, Phil! 🖖😊

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

I like that name 😅

Australia is really bad. In some cases the cost of shipping is equal to or greater than the actual product. Ridiculous!

I like that traxxas release in hobby shops first as it's hard for them to compete with online retailers

@jerryvolpini7987

Жыл бұрын

100%!!!

Same in Switzerland and when the Traxxas stuff finally does turn up, it 30% dearer than anywhere else.

I think most of the "deals" this year are what the actual R.R.P's were last year

I've come to realise that Black Friday is just a way for retailers to get rid of stock that hasn't sold i.e. all the crap. Especially when it comes to things like TV's/laptops etc. I don't partake in any of it. January sales though can be quite good.

I watch a lot of goods from retailer and you see the prices go up a month before then Black Fri comes along then the prices go back to what they were.

I have to tell you that the ad right after this video was Harbor Freight Black Friday Deals. 😂 Ironic.

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

Totally agree with you, also shame on the big unmentioned shops that added a Black Friday sticker when the price was no different. Totally noticed that, thanks for being vocal about this, great vid.

@jerryvolpini7987

Жыл бұрын

EVERY single retailer, regardless of the product, is guilty of this. I've even seen where the price on Black Friday, Boxing Day, whatever, is MORE than the previously advertised price?! You have to be an informed consumer, simple as that.

I sent corally in the eu an email telling them I didn't like there non black friday deals. Bait and switch on there prices. I own a kronos. I told them I will only buy parts for my kronos now. Nothing more. Corally had no deals in the United States. They inflated there prices and used the regular price as a sale price. I'm sure it hurt there return business. If I was the owner, the person who set there black friday deals would of been fired. I bought a fireteam online for $399.99. With tax and 3 to 5 day fed ex shipping I paid $433.00 traxxas can jump in the lake. Losi was a disappointment. I feel your pain

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Fireteam was a steal! I didn’t look at all places, but seems a lot tried the whole RRP/Black Friday special which is shady AF

Always feel like UK gets shafted on product prices. US companies seem to not know how currency conversion works and just take the dollar amount and stick a £ in front of it.

@djmandrick

Жыл бұрын

US prices are without any taxes applied which have to be applied when purchased so they wil always appear cheaper. From talking to a friend in the US they explained taxes are applied at state and some other (federal?) level depending where you live depends on those taxes applied. What you see listed isn't hte take it home price. UK prices have VAT included. Thats why it seems 1:1 (which is pretty much the exchange rate anyway now, so it would actualy be even more expensive than 1:1 atm).

Prices on RC’s are rediculous period, but I’m addicted lol

@JustFun-ho6qy

Жыл бұрын

Ridiculously over prized indeed. Especially since the one thing that is arguably the most expensive to manufacture about these rigs isn't even included: the bloody batteries. I'd love to know what the actual manufacturing costs of something like, let's say, an XMaxx are. I reckon it couldn't be more than a couple hundred bucks.

@stevenbrooks7776

Жыл бұрын

Addicted? That would be good, I've gone way beyond that

I knew this years black friday would just be last years regular prices. Gotta love inflation and hypercapitalism eh?

I'm fully with you. Here in Germany the situation is the same. It is so stupid and we playing their game. Looking for the Losi King Sling and do you know what ? Horizon Importeur Germany didn't even know about the car. Could order at Amain but shipping 129$ and 215$ tax. As you said, all because of the shitty politics in Europe.

Greed is a global problem. Black Friday here in the US usually means deep discounts on finished goods like toys, tvs, video games, computer parts, etc. Most deals were around 20% this year. If that. They are usually 50 to 70 percent. Corporate greed just can't get enough this time around. They have all made record profits throughout the Pandemic. It's just never enough. Now they can't even throw a bone to the loathly consumer. smh

The limitless body can’t be sold in Europe because of copyright. The holders wouldn’t give the rights for Europe.

Absolutely spot on, so bloody frustrating!!! As a protest I’m not buying any new rc stuff. Obviously that’s 🐂💩

Vs410 pheonix straight axle GB price £540 from modeltune, or £317 if your in the US, import one and you save £100...

My local hobby shop here in Madrid Spain explained why the latest horizon arrma vehicles can't come to Europe area Brexit or not . Apparently the radio transmitters and receivers are not conforming to the laws by a matter of a few hertz or something. So even if they have arrived in containers , they can not be unloaded, delivered and sold...

@MR.TOYBOX

Жыл бұрын

Regulations are getting out of control. We need less regulation. Your vote matters. Lets vote these clowns out asap.

@thejeepinrealtor5742

Жыл бұрын

Yet another reason my Fireteam shouldn’t have come with that crappy little transmitter. Ha

@vacatedbroom6237

Жыл бұрын

@@MR.TOYBOX I used to think my votes counted lmao

@MR.TOYBOX

Жыл бұрын

@@vacatedbroom6237 It was a joke just like our world leaders ! 🤣

@Vimeous

Жыл бұрын

@@MR.TOYBOX it's less about regulation and more the manufacturer. If they wanted us to have it they'd of got it right in the first place.

Agree. Same goes for us in The Netherlands.

Get in line with the rest of the World. Every one now a days are pissed off about something.

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

This is true 😅

The availability of products in the UK (and other countries) is nothing to do with governments and entirely down to the manufacturers protecting their distributors. If you have to buy in the UK then it makes sure the money goes to the UK distributors, if you have to initially buy it from a shop it makes sure the shops get some money from each sale. The manufacturers are supporting everyone involved in selling their products, which also makes sure the manufacturers have more outlets to shift their products. The alternative is that everyone buys from a handful of big shops, all the others close and we make it much harder for any newcomers to get into the hobby. If we all buy form Amain instead of UK shops, eventually we will have no UK shops and you will end up having to order from Amain when you just need a pack of body clips.

in EU there is "deals" on traxxas cars for a while now but the prices dont seem to be low enough to be worth buying

I got my felony for 400ish dollars before holloween

"Sales" where they either were always offered at the price their humping now as a discount. OR they announce a sale price and they show a "regular" price that is now 50-60 dollars higher than it was two days ago and the sale price will actually be ten dollars higher than you could have had it two days ago. Christmas is near and then new year. This post holiday time competitive pricing could be found in the past. Not holding my breath for 23. Actually would not surprise me if you see DISCONTINUED products get price increases because the day after the last one is sold they will be VINTAGE. I really thought people would laugh at me for saying manufacturers and distributors were inflating the prices and charging the same if not a bit higher as the discount. And in closing, intercourse Traxxas.

About time a high caliber RC channel calls out the bull💩! Phil congratulations on being the first to point out this scam of a deal. Great rant we need to see more of this in the hobby rather than getting our bellies tickled.

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

People are to scared to upset people nowadays. The only reason I didn’t name and shame is because I hadn’t checked every store in the UK.. so didn’t want to unfairly point the finger at just one. Really annoyed me when I saw the RRP being used as a reference for the discount 🤬

@mehimrc1314

Жыл бұрын

@@tomley_rc that's why you are the number one RC KZreadr. Honesty above all else and content is content when you can be relatable and likeable.

The fireteam for 399$ is a great deal here in the USA! That is bullshit that you guys can't get that deal!

I get my rc's from the USA, shipped to Canada. Cheaper then buying in Canada. I feel ya man! Crappy deals on cyber Monday too

I got my Fireteam , on Black Friday sale and a discount . Shipped to me from Winnipeg , 2000 KM away . Over the weekend . Ordered Friday . It arrived Monday , Unbelieve vehicle , price , service and shipping . Merry Christmas

The American companies are the same across a few of my hobbies on georestricting shipping. Specialized and Trek don't allow cross-border sales for example. The Black Friday thing is also a complete waste of time over here as it has no meaning hence why it goes on for a month. Oh and the RRP/Sale price thing: UK consumer law states that for a discount to be genuine and legal the item has to be offered for sale for 28 days prior to your reduction at the higher price and that reduction can only be shown for 6 weeks, if the reduced price continues it then becomes the new standard price. This leads to retailers having 1 item for sale for a month at well above RRP (usually in a few stores but not promoted) then they can advertise it at the lower price over key periods. Having spent a few years working in retail in my past I now know to ignore anything saying 'Reduced' or 'Clearance' etc, just look at the price and whether it's worth that to you.

You missed one minor issue for Americans. *RESELLERS* Whenever there is a sale or limited edition collectors item, they're immediately bought out and then listed online at a crazy markup, often double the price or more. A couple lucky people might be able to get ahold of them, the rest of us have to pay double+ or go without. I tend to go without. Lol

I was also disappointed to see my favorite fpv stores offer only 8-10% off,gee thnks alot

Here in belgium we can order a Xrt for 1199€ in a hobby shop in the Netherlands

It's payback for all the cool real cars you get that we don't! Cheers from Detroit!

400 for a Firestorm is a hell of a deal

Here in Jersey, Channel Island's, we don't have any hobby shops! We have too order stuff in, which can be a massive pain in the ****. Best part about it, is we don't pay VAT, But we have too pay a tax on goods over £150.

Tried to buy a Mashigan the day they came out. Won't ship to Canada, and that's just as or more frustrating cause we are literally land connected to the US and are treated like a separate planet. You can put it in a mail truck and drive it across... No boats or planes required. "Free shipping in US" but once it crosses a border it's now $60 shipping magically, so the thanks for buying from us only lasts within a small area, thanks for buying from us, here's some help on shipping disappears if you're 500 metres past a line on a map. AND YET! AliExpress can ship things to me from China in 2-3 weeks no sweat, free or almost no shipping. Waaaahhh!! Why do people buy from China... Well... There's your answer.

I might stop 🛑 you Americans getting some! Like California Gold! #stayepic

Maybe "someone" needs to set up a "Drop shipping" operation to get stuff from America to the uk...... 😉🤔

😂 love a good rant, esp on a monday 👍 black friday sales in my eyes are worthless, just a way of getting rid of all the outdated non selling stock 😁

I feel like this Christmas the "deals" arent really deals stores have raised prices and put a sale sign on it

I live in America. Arizona to be exact. It's 2 hours to the post office. This place is massive. Sorry different rant.

Honestly, as an American, we didn't really get much either. Horizon did put a couple of cars on a decent discount (The Fireteam and Typhon, that's about it), and Traxxas just hiked their prices and then listed their MSRP as their discount which should be downright illegal. Big brands seem to think they have the community by the balls at this point. Sadly, people still buy into it even after that.

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Better than nothing though haha

The trick is not to look for deals from companies, rather than looking at the selling portals like Amazon and eBay. I got 22% off some RC stuff which made it worth while for me. eBay also gave me 12 months of eBay plus for 1 month's subscription. Oh I got 4 pinions for like $15, some are selling for 15 each. I did well this Black Friday.

No deals over here a WPL C24 is 65$ usually and now its 60$

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

🤷🏼‍♂️

In the US, I didn't see any deals worth my time. Very little discount and I just couldn't see the point especially with better deals on other stuff.

I agree I'm in the states and didn't think any of the deals where actually worth it

@d.r.4453

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I'm also in the U.S. and this past Black Friday was pretty much trash for a lot of things. Not only do I generally pick up a few hobby items on BF, but I usually do some Christmas shopping for the family. This is the first year I can remember not buying anything on BF as the "deals" weren't deals at all for what I was in the market for.

Most people know what rigs cost. You have it shipped to a friend in the states then they ship it to you.

" World Wide " would have to a the biggest load bullsh!t .

We get better deals on home appliances than RC toys on black Friday deals....

Yep we get shafted again no deals like the guys over the water. A FireTeam would have been nice at the price they got it for

That sucks. I got the Fireteam for $350 off in Canada.

1. beard suits you! 2. Similar situation in Oz. I've been trying to buy the newest FMS, Traxxas and Axial models but still waiting! My orders are in for several new models but it's crickets here in Oz at this point. Wake me up in February when they're finally arsed to deliver here! I could have used mail forwarding services in USA to get them to Aus here but decided not to bother, and focus instead on current projects. It's a first world problem after all :)

Black Friday sucked ass here in the states too. There were deals, sure, but no deals on any shit I wanted or any I thought were worthy of this big hype machine "huge sale" day... that stuff really just made me sad as hell. where was my SCX10.3 RTR deal? Hell no. Sod off, mate. I'm sad. I paid full effin price ON CYBER MONDAY too... what the hell, man? The one thing I wanted and there just wasn't a single deal to be found. :( I went to work that day too... and I work at a pretty busy glass shop (figure it out) and there just was nothing. Streets empty. Stores empty. Inside I was happy capitalism wasn't winning, but also I was a tad worried for economics... and because there's no damn deals on anything I wanted. Why was I even excited? Why be excited for Christmas sales? It's just going to be this again.

Pretty much exactly the same here in Australia thanks for ranting for me as well haha

I hear your pain... It's the same in Australia, it was quicker and cheeper for me to get the TRX 4 sport in tan shipped to my US mailbox and sent to me before LHS had it in stock. PS horizon won't ship nor take an Australian credit card payment...

As a person who works for Horizon Hobby, we lost our international shipping at the beginning of covid. And our international stuff was under question with Brexit i believe. We just haven't been able recover our international shipping as we had hoped

Traxxas didn't have black Friday deals at all

Think of this as payback for all the badass cars y'all got that we didn't. I'm looking at you Cosworth.

Honestly Horizon have been a pretty big factor in why I'm getting out of RC as for the most part the majority of rc products are I get or rather got were under them and it's becoming quite clear they really couldn't care less about their UK customers. While I'm not a big Traxxas fan I'm honestly convinced Horizon are worse at the moment. Oh and some of the "Black Friday" we get for RC is a joke "cough" Modelsport "cough"

Same over here 🤨😑👌👍👋,do we need to say more ???yes always

🤣😂 you tell um Phil 👍 we want better deals 😊🙋‍♂️

I tried looking around for stuff (In Canada) but it seems they raised the price of everything by at least %50 in the last year and the so called "deals" are still priced waaay too high.

@tylerseabook9423

Жыл бұрын

We get robbed in Canada as well

@MR.TOYBOX

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerseabook9423 Its only gonna get worse. Trudeu is not doing your people any favors. Sorry to hear all the crap you Canadians are going through.

@garykee1

Жыл бұрын

so true my friend..so true..

@nemesisgy

Жыл бұрын

We got the same deal over here in Canada. I bought the fireteam for $535.99CAD. That’s $398USD when converted. The fireteam sale price in the US is $399.99.

@MegaAndyandyandy

Жыл бұрын

@@nemesisgy Who said anything about the fireteam? that's on a different channel....

There were almost no good deals other than the Losi 22s roller at 50% off and the arrma other than that nothing really good deals

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Almost no good deals is better than no deals haha

YES MODELSPORT.......

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

👀

I see the black Friday sign on a couple sites with no discount haha!! Won't name them 👍🤣🤣

@lees5631

Жыл бұрын

I think I can read your mind 😉 Was discussing this on Friday and a big uk one in particular

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Yup… I am constantly checking prices throughout the year, so they can’t fool me!

@lees5631

Жыл бұрын

@@tomley_rc same here buddy, the sand scorcher is a fine example

@johnbooth101

Жыл бұрын

You don't need to mate...we all know who they are 🤣

Yep... That pesky model up north near Ottley are the biggest singers. Black. Friday deals should show the price before so you can see the saving..

Don't be too dissapointed. Maybe Tamico is doing it's advent calender like in the other years. Everyday an new deal😉

I wish that the RC folk in the US would either make it clear that they are keeping their stock and support for US customers, or if they are happy to provide stock and support for Europe and the UK to pull their fingers out and do it properly. Instead of constantly rubbing peoples noses in it with limited edition bodies, accessories or whatever else that are only available in the US.

Trying to get Tamiya in New Zealand 🇳🇿 is hopeless. No selection and very expensive.

I wanted one those cheap arse Fireteams too. But they don’t deliver to Australia. 😩🤬

I'm in the US and I agree that's bs. I bet you can get some of the most worthless things in the UK but stuff people really want is limited.

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Yes… some stuff is not worth the hassle… but it would be nice to get some good deals

That’s beat, but I do see a Scx24 B-17 Betty in the box!

same in canada , they got some good one in the US specially with hobbywing

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’ve heard you guys miss out as well

It deffo sucks. In a few weeks the manufacturers will be moaning no one is buying spares for cars they couldn’t buy. Didn’t you get an Infraction last year for a good price?

the uk get disrespected by the rc companies, and very few people have hobby shops nearby someone shold start a chain of model shops and have branches worldwide

Are you missing a video these days? Please update the video. And I wish you a good end to the year and a happy new year. thank you💕👍

I have been trying to get a Traxxas Toyota Supra for a while. They won't sell it in Europe. Can't find it anywhere. Very disappointing.

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Yes, really annoying

Australia is in a similar boat to the UK. very few stores and unless you're willing to pay ebay scam prices some cars are very hard to get.

Agree completely, no good deals apart from make it build imo, also what’s happening with Arrma 4s, had in order nearly six months 🙄 👍

BRO COME TO AUSTRALIA IT'S EVEN WORSE

Unfortunately it's not just RC products. The amount of stories on my Google feed about black Friday prices on headphones/earbuds, which I'm far too eager to buy, on sale in the US and the UK price doesn't even come close. Utter bullshit as you quite rightly said!

Modelsport in the UK..... Guilty of slapping that Black Friday symbol on stuff that's been that price for aaages

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

👀

That Fireteam was a deal not to be missed so i bought it and im having it sent to the UK using a shipping company.

Amain hobbies ran all kinds of deals 🤷 Edit: sorry I’m in the US

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Yes, my go to place for stuff usually. Even though I love thousands of miles away 😅

@Ethan_LeBlanc

Жыл бұрын

@@tomley_rc same, I live in the other side of the US from them. Usually ships in about 3 days though. Sorry you weren’t able to get any deals on traxxas models. Some of them were up to 200$ this weekend in US

Good rant, to be fair though, Schumacher cars take like a month to get to the US after the UK... so, we're even?

Traxxas' boost local hobby shops idea is nice, but with the TRX-4M is a joke. Shops around Europe are advertising being available from around the 2nd or 3rd of December, but only for pickup. Shipping only from the 23rd of December! WTF... My "local" shop is more than 100km away from my place, they even didn't give any information about the TRX-4M, as they were saying before they are waiting on delivery... Thanks Traxxas a job well done for your customers, NO!

I love this .... same here in the netherlands.. i hear you loud and clear... how ever; we still CAN get all the parts, lots of countrys cant get them at all... better 2 expensive,than not available ....we always say😅 greetz, basherbodies

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Yes, ‘swings n roundabouts’ as we say 😅

Same here in Australia, only decent thing I saw on sale at a decent (41%) discount was the axial scx111 with the bronco body from a place in Melbourne it was $499 free shipping as well, anything else on Black Friday was only 5-10% discount unless is was a static model kit or slot cars........

Show us the bad Black Friday deal!

Fully agree with you there on that one about the prices, Well known place i order from had items in the black Friday sale and i noticed the price was the same as what it's always been, Just feels like we are being ripped off.

Ftx for example can't ship to Germany. I can't get the right spareparts. Even talked to a dealer here and they agreed ftx is a problem now. I mean ftx blames German customs and I got a refund... But yea can't get parts and Hobbyking "applause" didn't have them for years and maybe never will. Now I think of 3d printing a spurgear but I didn't think this will last nearly as long as my first plastic one. And a new slipperclutch I can't print. Not sure why the metal gear grindet away in less than a minute not hard driving.

Traxxas is BS anyways. Parts are expensive and hard to get even in the US

The TRX4M release was just plain stupid. I live in the US and can't get one , where I live only 1 Traxxas dealer and they didn't even get their pre orders. As for sales nothing here that isn't normal price or lower only because it's a discontinued model. I honestly tried to find a sale on something RC related that I would actually want and ended up buying stuff totally unrelated to the hobby.

@tomley_rc

Жыл бұрын

Yes, massive pain to not be able to order online. It’s 2022 ffs!

@Macgyver46

Жыл бұрын

@@tomley_rc Traxxas kept telling me to pre order and would send a link, 3 times I tried and every time the batch of pre-orders was sold out. Just made me made and honestly think I won't ever buy Traxxas since this was my first experience trying to buy one of their products.

I agree, its always been that way here in U.S.A. its a crock.

I know exactly what you mean, reduced from rrp but a couple of UK shops have the reduced price all year round

100% agree, I pre-ordered a trx4m back on launch day in early October. So I emailed the LHS on the release date only to find that they aren’t able to get them until 20th DECEMBER. Not 20th November which would have still been 9 days after the U.S., but 20th December a full 39 days after the LHS launch and over 3 weeks after the online launch. Absolutely bonkers. I’ll stick with Element and Absima in future I think.

@ScaledRC

Жыл бұрын

To be fair we can't buy them online either. Only the local hobby shops are carrying them still. They were supposed to release online but they still haven't yet.

So true not many Black Friday deals I could find online

I'll say it, Modelsport!