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@sparky6086

2 жыл бұрын

Scotty, The British never made aluminum engines! ...They made "aluminium" engines!

Actually, there were TR8s with automatic transmissions. Acceleration and top speed are the same with the original 13 inch wheels as with after market 15 inch wheels. Lower profile tires are used on the 15s to get the same overall diameter, so no change in acceleration or top speed. Nothing wrong with the twin Stromberg powered cars and carbs are a lot easier to repair than the fuel injection system. And no, that's not an original radio in the car. The best thing about a TR8 is that nobody knows what they are so nice ones are still affordable. For the price, you can't beat the comfort and performance that you get with a TR8!

My Dad was a test driver for British Leyland in the 70’s and 80’s. He test drove many cars including the TR7 and TRV8. He maxed out many of the cars at the Edge Hill test track and Gaydon.

@petermalloy5360

2 жыл бұрын

Love your enthusiam and wonderful energy and knowledge .you are truly an amazing human sir

@MustangsTrainsMowers

2 жыл бұрын

I could be a test driver. I love to push a vehicle to its limits. I deliver pizza for a living.

The slogan was "The shape of THINGS TO COME". I admired the TR8 when they came out.

@EfficientRVer

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Scotty got it wrong at the beginning of the video, but he got it right toward the end.

I worked with a guy who wanted a sports car back in the 70's. His choice came down to a Triumph TR7 and a Datsun 280Z. He noticed at the Triumph dealership the back lot was full of new non-running TR7's. He went with the 280Z. He still owns and drives it to this day.

@manontherun8693

11 ай бұрын

Who asked you?

Scotty is right the 4 cylinder was junk, I blew the engine in mine at 30,000 miles. He is also right about being fun to drive with manual rack and pinion steering. Beware everything else breaks down to. The pop up headlights, windowcrank,headlight switch,clutch master cylinder. The TR7 kept me broke just at the time I didnt need to be broke, but I learned from that and researched reliability. Japanese all the way after that.

@rogerwilcojr

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the transmission. I also remember a nut for every bolt (no studs or tapped holes).

@geraldscott4302

2 жыл бұрын

The ONLY Japanese cars I have ever liked were the original 240Z/260Z/280Z. Those are beautiful. But I've never seen any other Japanese car that wasn't ugly.

@MarkHicks326

2 жыл бұрын

@@geraldscott4302 Beauty is in the eye of your girlfriend....

@DTD110865

2 жыл бұрын

@Ivan Poohbear Maybe you're right, But I know I could never fit in an MX-5 / Miata. I'd have a better chance with the TR7 and TR8.

@michaelnippert945

2 жыл бұрын

I put 2 cylinder heads on my TR7 The heater control and vent control Always broke

I remember those back in the day, zipping around. Cool looking back then, still Cool looking today. 😲😲😲

i had a tr7 back in the day... it was like driving a beer can, without the beer can's structural integrity.

@flybobbie1449

2 жыл бұрын

All cars were the same back then, unless a Volvo, much of which was made in Britain.

If I take my rav 4 to you for maintenance scotty, I bet it will triple in value because it was maintenanced by scotty!!!!! Good afternoon scotty!

@scottykilmer

2 жыл бұрын

afternoon!

@lmfaook.7971

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottykilmer keep up the good work scotty! I'm the guy that was having intermittent starting problems in the 2012 Ford fusion. Even emailed you. While you were with family in Rhode Island a while back! Would love to hear from you. I figured out my problem . And also got rid of it.

I always wanted one of these but I didn’t have a job at the time. I drove the TR7 and loved it.

Oh my God! I owned a TR7 a TR8 and two Spitfires in my day. What fun!!

At the end of 1974 I went to the Triumph/ MG dealership to purchase a TR 6. I always loved that car and it was going to be my very first brand new vehicle. The dealer had the brochure for the new TR7 and talked me into buying one. It really was a futuristic design at the time. The dealer initially got 3 cars in and mine was one of them. Very pretty in Delft blue. Turned out to be the biggest car buying failure of my entire life. I have never owned a worse piece of junk and I have bought cars for $25.00. I couldn't even list all the things that went wrong with it here. Let's just say in the year I owned it the dealer had it in their service dept. for almost as long as I had it in my possession.

@danrivera644

2 жыл бұрын

And your get to know all the tow truck drivers by their first name, my TR7 broke do an so much my boss said "get a new car, you cant continue to call in that your new car broke down again"

@lordleonusa

3 ай бұрын

Pity you didn't get the TR6, a much better car

@tomearly111

3 ай бұрын

@@lordleonusa To this day I regret that decision. I still love the look of the TR6

I purchased a red one with a removable black hardtop in Farmington, New Mexico in the early 1990’s. It was a 1981 model with less than 50k miles and plastic delivery covering still on various things. It was the 56th last made TR8 and the highest spec with factory Blaupunkt stereo and cruise control. Shipped it home to Australia when I returned and had it converted to RHD including hand machining the power steering rack to maintain that feature. A very fast and comfortable car for its time. It just loped along the highway just ticking over at low revs and was very economical on fuel. I am kicking myself as I sold it as it would be worth a fortune now. From memory from my research there’s was only about 8 RHD cars made as preproduction models and these were supposed to be scrapped. There were only just over 2,200 made purely for the US market so very rare. I do not believe there were any true TR8’s made in coupe form, they were all convertibles, but I can stand correction. Mine had a tan convertible top with a tan interior.

Great review of a classic! Bought a new ‘80 TR7 and daily drove it for 3 years and yes it blew head gaskets regularly. I currently own the last TR8 to be dispatched from the Solihull factory on October 20, 1981. 1982 TR8 408405. They are so much fun with large cabins, a real trunk and plenty of get up and go.

@martyflannigan5052

2 жыл бұрын

yes no problem putting two golf bags in the trunk except now you have to remove the drivers because they are longer now

Scotty the 3.5 litre V8 was originally developed and used by Rover in there luxurious P4 and continued into the P5 the motor was used all sorts of british sports cars and also in Land Rovers anything that had a V8 was this Rover V8 except for the Sunbeam Tiger and it was increased to 4.0 litres and was used in Leyland P76 built in Australia

I've always loved these Rover (Buick) V8s. As a kid, my friend's dad had a V8 Rover SD1 3500 and to this day I think it's the coolest car ever made. A guy down the street had a Rover P6 with one of these engines in and it was one of the most beautiful sounding cars I ever heard. They're rustbuckets but so are all other cars of their era, especially on our wet, salty roads! Triumph, Rover and MG once made some very nice cars...

@flybobbie1449

2 жыл бұрын

I drove my bosses SD1, had that square steering wheel.

@theonlyrobot

2 жыл бұрын

There's nothing that warms my heart like an MG with a Rover 8 in it.

I had both a TR7 and a TR8. The TR7 engine went out at 60,000 miles. Loved it but hated the problems. Traded it for a TR8. I put headers, a long 283 rear end, and anti-sway bars front and back. The TR8 was a blast to drive. Kept it for several years and traded it for a Jenson Interceptor convertible which was awesome.

I like the sound, the vehicle makes.

I do love the look of the hardtop TR7, as well as the Fiat X-19. I bought a new Pontiac Fiero in 1986. Drove it for 12 years.

Always like the design of this little car.

Scotty Kilmer is the only reason I watch KZread . He's so interesting every video is jammed with knowledge . Keep up the good work Scotty Kilmer 😁

@dsSpitfiremk4

2 жыл бұрын

Rumble should offer Scotty a Joe Rogan sized contract. Or, better yet, Scotty should just buy Rumble.

I’ve like those since I was a kid.

Growing up, a neighbor had a TR6 and a TR8. Rode in both many items. Kind of bare-bones inside but liked them both. The TR6 sounded faster than it was. The TR8 didn't sound fast (but it was for its day).

In all honesty, that was an absolutely wonderful car, but the TR8 came out too late, and British Layland was already in deep financial trouble. That car was a winner. I’m still driving my 72 Spitfire, and it has been an incredibly reliable car, and I was cruel to it in my 20’s!

@milinoss

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your time, I'd share a beneficial knowledge 👆

My dad had a BSA when I was growing up 😁. Great bikes. I grew up in Britain and never really liked these cars but I really appreciate how well this car has been kept. Put away for the winters. Our love affairs with cars will never end, we treat them better than ourselves!

@milinoss

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your time, I'd share a beneficial knowledge 👆

My father had a TR7 drove it from Chicago to South Florida. The engine was pretty decent, the only issues he had was typical electronic problems, like the popup lights sometimes don't work or the windshield wiper sometimes don't work.

The two cars I wanted most in my younger days back in the early 70's were either the TR6 or the GT6...never cared for the wedge shape of the TR7. However, back in the day I couldn't find any in decent shape and there was uncertainty with the availability of parts, so I 'settled' for a 1968 Pontiac GTO instead. Knowing what I know now, I wish I held onto the GTO.

@watup110875

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I had a penny every-time I said that ol saying "ONLY IF I HAD KEEP IT" ROFL know the pain. Here is you a better one than that, my uncle mom's brother. He had a "primer gray paint ready to paint" 1969 Chevy Camaro with CHEVROLET 302 Muncy 4 speed manual and 4:11 running gear in rear-end, plus new tires brakes oil change and even tranny oil change and gear oil in rear-end, get this but don't fall over lol. He wanted now, $1,500 dollars back in 1993.... I told him it was to much for such an old car! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :'(

@watup110875

2 жыл бұрын

ps We still cry over that car, because he took to crusher 2 months later, just imagine what that CHEVY 302 would go for now.

That would be cool car today with a Toyota 3.5L V-6 and maybe a nice infotainment system. I would be a buyer!

Scotty's chauffeur blows past the 25 MPH speed limit sign. 🤪 😄 Those TR8's were really nice touring cars for a short trip on a sunny day.

@milinoss

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your time, I'd share a beneficial knowledge 👆

I had a 1980 TR7 just like the blue one you show it was a great driving car but you are right problems overheating and in these days it's hard to find a mechanic that will work on one and I'm in Toronto

I love the tr8 I never seen one in person since I was a kid

Not the worst car I owned. 80 chevette took the honors. Scotty, the Saab 90/900 of the same period used the same engine with slight modifications and it was magnificent. Explain that one. Do an episode on the Saab. View Top Gear’s episode where they dropped a Saab on its its roof, illustrating occupant survivability. The Tr7 chassis was praised for chassis rigidity and it was fun to drive when it ran.

I have a 1973 MG Midget. I love it.

The Rover V8 engine was a legend used in many cars such as the Range Rover Mk1 and Mk2, MGs, TVRs, Morgan etc. It was last produced for the Discovery Mk2 in 2004.

@milinoss

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your time, I'd share a beneficial knowledge 👆

So pleased to see you have a tr8 my sister had a yellow tr7 and I used to sit between the two seats i don't think my arm would fit in the gap now

Fantastic video, as always - but that wasn't a bonus question and answer, that was a bonus editorial!

I still have a photograph of myself sitting in the driver's seat of a Triumph TR7 at a New York Auto Show during the 1970's. Now if I were to drive either the TR7 or TR8, I'd have to have the top down 24/7/365. And even with that there's still not enough legroom for my just shy of 6 feet self.

@chrispekel5709

2 жыл бұрын

I am taller than you, you will fit easily

The 4 cylinder engine shown is actually the 16-valve 2-litre 'Sprint' unit. Only about 60 TR7 cars left the factory with this engine fitted. It produced about 127 hp. The usual TR7 engine was an 8- valve 2-litre producing 105 hp.

Outstanding video and presentation.

My friend Jeff had a white TR7, I notice he didn't have it very long. He always had cool cars back in the 70,s. The first one I am remembering him having was a dark blue TR4, British racing green 1969 MGB, and an Orange Opel GT.

Long as it's got pop up headlights I'm cool with it

Nice to see British and keeping them going👍

I had a 78’ TR-7, it was a blast to drive. The quality of the construction at the factory was poor. I wished I still had it.

I had a TR7 back in the 90's....the first car I bought by myself. I drove it too hard over some bumpy roads and broke the tailpiece on the manual transmission...It was also the first time I changed a transmission...it also had the overheating/ wiring problems...

I remember when those came out. But it was just too late. The TR7's were just never that popular. Now the TR6's were real popular. There were a lot of those on the road. If I were to go insane and buy a Triumph, the TR6 is what I would go after.

@townhall05446

2 жыл бұрын

To me the TR6 is a much better looking car; that cheese wedge style of the '7 is very plain looking. I'll bet the 6 was a much better car altogether.

@terryc8164

2 жыл бұрын

Not popular? They actually made 91,850 TR6 over 8 years, while the not popular TR7 managed 112368 in 6 years, for the time it WAS a popular sports car!

Yep that's a pretty sweet little wedge Scotty I like that little V8 almost sounds like it has spur straight cut racing gears be cool with a dog box California and Florida are a good place to get rust free cars as long as they haven't been sitting by the ocean too long

@oscrthgrch7

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who lived in Eureka California for many years, that place comes close to places that salt the roads when it comes to rusty cars. Except they rust from the top down instead of from the bottom up.

It is a nice car. If you like wrenching. The front crumple zone ends at the rear bumper, so the ride is quite an adventure.

Nice to see you do a review on a Triumph

I love those tr8

I saw TR8 here in Florida a few years ago. Very rare.

That’s a great looking car!

I loved the TR7 hardtop

Ah the memories! I had a rare factory RHD one many years ago, in that exact colour. Ran it for years on the Stromberg carbs and had zero issues. Bitterly regret selling it in the 90's. Btw they DID make them with an auto box..... 👍😁

The major problem with British cars was the electrics - electrics by Lucas, The Prince of Darkness. The wires were wrapped with cloth insulation. What happens to cloth under heat? Yep, it fades. You had to strip back the cloth about a foot to find out what the color code was. As if it made any difference; the wiring diagrams were usually wrong. The easiest way to fix it was to cut both ends of the wire and French wire it.

@flybobbie1449

2 жыл бұрын

My TR7 had normal plastic insulation, but did catch fire under the dash, a known problem. Had to rewire the whole car.

@MF-rtard89

2 жыл бұрын

What does "French wire it" mean? That's one I haven't heard before

@M4DesignUSA

2 жыл бұрын

The "joke" I heard... Mr Lucas says: "Ride anywhere you want, just be home by dark!" ;-)

@navret1707

2 жыл бұрын

@@MF-rtard89 - French wiring is cutting both ends of the original and running a parallel wire directly between the switch or relay and the object you want to control. With the Lucas “wiring” wires often changed colors Inside bundles and you never knew where. And wiring diagrams were often just a guess.

@navret1707

2 жыл бұрын

@@M4DesignUSA How true. How true. How true. If the starter and or generator worked.

Scotty, I would like to thank you for the inspiration!

At least the V8 stopped the front lifting and going light above 70mph. On holiday in Arizona we bumped into a TR7 meet. At least there they don't rot away.

Beautiful car. My 79 is great.

My girlfriend had a TR4 and I had a TR6. both fun cars to drive. I never got to drive a TR8, though. My neighbor had a TR7, which was a real dog. Upon totaling my TR6, I opted to buy a Z28 Camaro for added safety, which turned out to be as much of a dog as my neighbor's TR7.

TR-8 huh. As long time British car mechanic all I can say is good luck. Since you're famiilar with the "prince of darkness" electrics from the Brit bikes, you should be able keep it running well.

The TR8's Rover V8 was a nice, light weight engine. We can and do agree on this, Scotty. I had four of those engines in cars I owned for the long term: Two 1970 P6 Rover 3500S cars, and two of the later SD-1 Rover 3500 NAS cars. (I was terribly disappointed overall with the SD-1 NAS, as it was "built on the cheap" as the British would say.) I also had for much shorter periods of time, a Land Rover 109" Stage Two station wagon with a detuned version of the "Rover V8." And, for eleven months I had a 1982 Range Rover four door. I had use of a loner Morgan Plus 8 for about one month in 1978 or 1979. I liked the Rover V8. But the 1987 Range Rovers for the U.S. market had a number of camshaft problems with that engine. My brother in law's 1987 Range Rover had a new engine installed in it under warranty at about 18,000 miles as I recall. One last thing: When William Martin Hurst and J. Bruce McWilliams bought the rights to the 215 cid Buick engine, they agreed to take the GM engineer who played a large part in that engine's initial development. I forget his name, but I'm certain this story is true. As I recall, that engineer had a year or two left on his career with GM. Rover agreed to pay him for his last year and also agreed, I was told at the time, "to pay his retirement." Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii, 23 February 2022.

I believe it was Motor Trend that referred to the TR7 as “That British door stop.”

Thank you for the video.

You make my day Scotty 👍

My TR7 run great, never any engine problems, just everything else rotted and fell apart. Door handles were made in a factory down the road from me. Many cars used the same door handles. Might have been one of the first anti burst door mechanisms. An can see the hood hooks, to stop the hood taking your head off in a smash. I would bang my head on those working on the engine. Takes me back to the 80's. A few choice words spoken over that engine.

@tongates8079

2 жыл бұрын

Mine was good too, well except for the wiring and body rot. A fun time on the twisty back roads.

@flybobbie1449

2 жыл бұрын

@@tongates8079 I did so much to keep it running. Body filler, sills, flitches i rebuilt from steel. Respray. Rewired and rewound the lamp motors. Stripped gearbox to try fix the rubbish 2nd syncro. Replaced the oil pump gears in gearbox. I bet not manual gearboxes that have an oil pump in them. Still rubbish box though.

@flybobbie1449

2 жыл бұрын

Did my driving test in 1985 in my TR7, only time i managed to lock the brakes up. I still have the greasy Haynes manual and owners manual.

@flybobbie1449

2 жыл бұрын

@@tongates8079 Just typed in TR7 Haynes manual ebay, dozens for sale. Even new.

I had 2 TR7's back in the day. Biggest thing to look for apart from rust is the electric's they were totally crap. One mine nearly went on fire due to the relay on headlight switch overheating. It melted the plastic around it! Very common problem.

Enjoyed that. Scotty.

Very nice and good value for money classic

Whenever Scotty Kilmers drops the new videos I drink the shot of whiskey and puff on the Cannabis Cigars and get all schmoked up

I Love it!! Scotty has so much fun making videos!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! 👍👍

He's driving an English car in New England 😎

Hey Scotty, that was pretty damn good.

I had 2 different TR8's, a 1980 and a 1981. The car in this video is a 1980 'California' car, as the 49-state TR8 wasn't fuel-injected until 1981. Also, they imported around 50 'pre-production' cars, all coupes, in 1978; all with a crappy Borg-Warner 3spd automatic.

You're crackin me up Scotty !!!

Scotty, There are a few companies that are making camper conversions on the Toyota Seinna vans here in the USA

I drove the TR8s in the day. Part time job delivering cars from dealer to dealer and from auctions.

I remember the triumph TR3 in the fifties the engines were poor, when the Motorways in England were made and people started using them the TR3 engines couldn't stand the speed and the engines were breaking up under the strain . The Motorways were first made in about late 1958 . The TR3 is a 4cyl engine.

They displayed a 2022 Sienna camper van at the Chicago auto show this year.

I had a 77 MG B it was a fun car unfortunately I sold because was not driving that much.sure would like to have another someday

theres lots of tr7's 4cyl converted to tr8 v8 esp in britain. as with the mgb.different companies in britain commonly did the conversion.

its a shame we in the uk have virtualy no car industry left, occasionally we can come up with good designs ...yet many of the formula 1 car teams are uk based

Very cool. I had almost forgotten the TR8. Meanwhile- The Brits beat the Germans during the war, but now the Germans are beating the British with their checkbooks. Who owns Rolls-Royce? Who owns Bentley?

@mattkinsella9856

2 жыл бұрын

Ye it's a shame really. I think the Brits made a mistake after being on the winning side with America after WWII they should have built closer ties in that direction but they went the wrong way and now it's culminated in BREXIT and they are starting all over again.

Just love the way you tell it

How about the TR6. With an electric overdrive. I had one in 1972. One of the best cars I ever had.

@milinoss

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your time, I'd share a beneficial knowledge 👆

and those two lovely red old school air compressor horns

Had a '59" Triumph TR3 got stolen. boy do I miss that car!!

@kingfisch

2 жыл бұрын

TR3 is one of my all time favorite cars.

I had a 76 TR7 as my first car. Damn thing was always in the shop and overheated non stop. I would have to stop 2-3 times on my way home from school to let the car cool off before I could drive a little further.

The shape of things to come.

Scotty, I'm a Triumph enthusiast, and I really thought this car was not for you. Mind you it's old tech, so right up your alley. Triumph actually made the slant 4 engine for SAAB first, then used it for themselves. SAAB then wanted it altered and so two separate but very similar engines were made, and then SAAB went to make it and further modify it themselves and Triumph were closed down so no advancement from them; something like that, it's complicated. Triumph used the engine in RWD and SAAB in FWD. The V8 is the most reliable and appealing thing in your TR8.

This is what I love about british cars that are tiny and noisy, superb!

Good luck! I like Triumphs, but they tend to need work often

I'm very surprised that Scotty likes this car. There's one (1980 TR8 California car) for sale near me right now for $18,000, but for that price I could buy a C5 Corvette which is much more my kinda car.

@jwelchon2416

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. And parts are readily available for the C5.

@townhall05446

2 жыл бұрын

Especially since he regularly rags on Chevy for their lack of quality - this TR makes a Chevy look like a Lexus.

@dsSpitfiremk4

2 жыл бұрын

I have 2 Spitfires and a 98 C5 in the driveway. Guess which one is the basket case.

This shelving new? It’s bright haha. Shelve LEDs and warm white hopefully coming! And don’t ever get rid of the cat plush!!

Good luck Scotty! Just remember what that mended motor is bolted into! Beware of gifts from GM! Drive it for a year and then I'd be interested in your next report! How's the brakes and Lucas wiring doing? Not a reworked Buick tranny or rearend in there either! Too bad it doesn't have its original wheels. It was the only way you could tell it wasn't a TR7!

It's looks reminds me of a Fiat Baratone, w/targa top. My friend had a sweet sporty one, had a girlfriend that had a not quite so sweet one, also.

I had a TR6 & TR7 I imported from UK & they were awful always has issues & oil leaks & many shoed a GM 350 in them or a V6 as I did after a year I owned my TR7.

First time I saw one was on the I-5 freeway with its nose stuffed under a 78 Ford Galaxy. The windshield stopped 3 inches from the gas tank. And thought? Ya the shape of things to come. The bumpers were lower than everything America made.

Engine sounds nice

The 40 liter fridge in the camper is 2440 cubic inches or 10.57 gallons

Some of these ended up being switched over to tried-and-true aftermarket stuff: Holley 650 dual-pump carbs, headers, dual exhaust....

Hey Scotty! Could you do a few motorcycle maintenance videos??