"Wait, he still hes mate in 5 with only a few queens?!" -National Chess Master, Nelson Lopez

@ugi062

Жыл бұрын

And can't see basic M2

@antimono

Жыл бұрын

he looked at the engine

@starkillergaming3658

Жыл бұрын

@@ugi062 literally I was shouting "get the queen to h7 bro wth😭"

@andrewwong6500

Жыл бұрын

Mate in 8 with 5 queens as well

@Ameer_Hamza8603

Жыл бұрын

How to play customize games like this? How I can play this? Can someone help me?

You may have heard of Martin Luther King Introducing: Martin Losing Queens

@jomela8152

Жыл бұрын

lol my name is martin

@Robeebert

Жыл бұрын

lol my name is losing queens

@0638

Жыл бұрын

lol my name is

@righthandman5263

Жыл бұрын

lol my name

@sleepdeprivationiscool

Жыл бұрын

lol my

In the first game Martin is definitely a paid actor😂 Also: 4:38 i like how Nelson is like a spoiled kid of rich parents in the mall." I want this one, and this one, and ooohh also this one"

@cantopig9639

Жыл бұрын

I like that analogy

@AbdullahKhan-el6xw

Жыл бұрын

Wrong channel

@jasonlongfur4695

Жыл бұрын

@@AbdullahKhan-el6xw they are like freelancers that can be hired by all chess channels😂

@boxinabox6608

Жыл бұрын

Not chess simp

@ThePenguinMan

Жыл бұрын

I solemnly swear that I am not an paid/unpaid actor.

i would have loved to se an analyse of the last game where you went from 133 to martin having a 133

@ericblair5731

Жыл бұрын

It's just a signed byte overflow issue. There aren't supposed to be that many points of material on the board for either player so you use a byte or some other signed small value to store the eval. With as many queens as black had the count went over the max and was treated as a negative. This has the side effect of screwing up the branch pruning as the computer tries to evaluate different moves, and probably explains some weird behavior at first. For instance taking an unprotected pawn might actually decrease blacks point advantage by making the overflow even more severe.

@cancerousmaterial

Жыл бұрын

it might just be because whites pawns are in a position where if enough queens are sacrificed one queen can get in the back rank and start taking all the pawns because pawns can’t defend from behind

@tobymarx-dunn2332

Жыл бұрын

He blundered mate. The F file probably became to weak and the queen’s could smash trough

@HerbalistGuybrush

Жыл бұрын

kartoffel

@xevento8682

Жыл бұрын

​@@ericblair5731 im pretty sure that they use ints for the eval which definitely don't overflow at 133 lol. It would therefore also not affect branch pruning as it evals the moves correctly. it'd be too easy to f up stockfish if what you said was the case. there is probably another reason. (Toby Marx-Dunn made a fair point)

just love the theoretical GM draw in game one. High level stuff

2:38 Martin with the super GM draw

@SupremeSkibidi

Жыл бұрын

How do i install this cheess game?

@andrewwong6500

Жыл бұрын

And you have the Seychelles profile picture! Love it

I was super impressed with how you worked out he had mate in x so swiftly, and then I realised the game just tells you in the top left. So now I'm just super impressed with, y'know, everything else.

2:32 It was at this point when both Martin and Nelsi in their infinite GM wisdom decided to repeat moves as the position was a guaranteed draw.

@oz_jones

5 ай бұрын

"of all the games this is the silliest, let's not play this anymore" - GM Martin, 2022.

8:15 Your M2 was Qhg7+. Martin can only play Qf7, at which point Q7xf7#.

@gildeddrake1479

Жыл бұрын

I always feel bad not being able to find a mate in 2 so it comforts me a bit when nelson fails to do it as well.

@summercube339

Жыл бұрын

Yup saw that

@summercube339

Жыл бұрын

Before this comment

@fakestory1753

Жыл бұрын

damm this one is hard to spot for me :(

@nilesloughlin6845

Жыл бұрын

Was looking for this comment lol

my thought on the first game is that the position almost forces martin to make "good" moves because the only pieces that can move are his most forward pawns and thus the vast majority of available moves are good ones.

@SupremeSkibidi

Жыл бұрын

How do i install this cheess game?

5:17 thats probably the biggest eval swing I've ever seen in a non-mate position +133 to the brinks of defeat -133

@ryanstejskal1506

Жыл бұрын

The behavior of the evaluator almost looks like there's a numeric overflow going on - the advantage is so large for black that it "wraps around" and gets displayed as an advantage for white. The sudden transition is where the advantage goes from overflowing the maximum advantage to no longer overflowing, and kicks back to the correct (if you weren't playing Martin) "black is winning". However, if this is the case, I'd expect it to wrap around at 128, not 133 (since 128 is a power of 2 and numeric overflow is an artifact of computers' base-2 representation of numbers), so I'm not sure if that's what is actually happening.

@Oznerock

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanstejskal1506 It might also be that it's just that the position starts in a way where forcing 1v1 trades is always happening so piece quality is maybe irrelevant and the move first advantage for white is more important?

@SupremeSkibidi

Жыл бұрын

How do i install this cheess game?

@andrewwong6500

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 200 points

Martin being super aggressive with the pawns in the first game I think makes sense for a bot with a low depth since "takes with the pawn" is, at worst, a trade, so it probably always reads as gaining in material and thus a high value move. I think that's why he can also usually spot mate in 1 or 2 but anything beyond that he rarely finds except by accident. This would also explain why he's a lot worse with so many queens, because trading a queen for a pawn is something that reads as obviously BAD at a low search depth since he'd need to be able to see farther into the future to recognize the value of a sacrifice, so he's more conservative despite having enough queens that he can probably just brute force tunnel his way through all your pawns with them.

@SupremeSkibidi

Жыл бұрын

How do i install this cheess game?

@andrewwong6500

Жыл бұрын

@@SupremeSkibidi Chess Vibes has a video on it

@mbvglider

10 ай бұрын

I think it's simpler than that. When you have that only pawns, a large percentage of all possible moves are move a pawn forward or take a piece diagonally with the pawn. Both improve his position. Even if you picked moves completely randomly, they have to be good. Martin is forced to play good moves when every legal move is a good move.

A proof that an idiot with money isn’t better than a genius without money

Seems like Martin doesn't want to lose a queen to get a pawn.

@SupremeSkibidi

Жыл бұрын

How do i install this cheess game?

@HallidayASR

Жыл бұрын

@@SupremeSkibidi You can play this in the website Chess dot com or you can install it on your phone, the app is called Chess by chess dot com...

I love the analysis “yeah I was afraid of that” after a pawn takes a piece. “There’s just so many pawns” 😂

Engine: mate in 3 Martin: hold my beer 😂😂😂

@SupremeSkibidi

Жыл бұрын

How do i install this cheess game?

Martin with pawn:🥶🥶 Martin with queens:🥸

4:00 you dug a hole for him and he fell in. Lol.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I just loved it when you said “I want this one, and I want this one”, when you were capturing the pawns!

There are very few different moves when all you can move is your front pawns. It makes sense that it plays better.

How did you get the analysis board tgo allow panws on the first rank, it gets throwing up errors when I try.

Laughed wholeheartedly at the result of the first game.

@itisALWAYSR.A.

Жыл бұрын

It was truly peak Martin. You never know quite what to expect : there's ALWAYS another twist up his sleeve

"lets get my king more for safety" Eval bar - M6

Martin is in all actuality a beast on the chessboard.. its just that he is a pacifist who abhors violence and cares more about his opponents well being than his own.

@ItsAsparageese

Жыл бұрын

Lol love this headcanon

The embarrassment of losing a queen to a palm is too unbearable for martin

@Bismarck-S

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the good old palm chess piece

It seems that in the last game you actually had a 30-point advantage according to the computer. Does that mean you could beat stockfish with 31 queens?

I have another challage: reverse the last position(give yourself queens) but you need to make Martin win. I think it will be harder than this. :)

bro when i saw the title i was like: no way thats possible lol

7:36 Martin can only see an M2 or M1. Anything else (M3 or deeper), Martin struggles to see. Also, at 9:50, can't you have played c6+ ? You would win Martin's last queen...

pawns - max agresion queens - timid sheep for slaughter

4:23 this is actually better for having pawns because in this position the both of the pieces do the same thing, and since he has more pawns, he can just trade if all pieces and still have pawns left over for promotion.

My favorite part: "What is Martin doing?" hahaha.

checkmate by promotion to a knight is the most based thing i have ever seen

After seriously damaging his position with some rows of fivefold-pawns Martin still managed to to draw the game. Impressive. 🤣🤣🤣

I would love to see somebody create the theoretically worst chess bot. It could be an altered version of stockfish that makes the worst move instead of the best. I tried looking for one but couldn’t find it.

@duskonanyavarld1786

Жыл бұрын

One bad AI could also compute are the legal moves and pick a random one. 😁

@kgyo

Жыл бұрын

When finding the worst move, does it assume that its opponent will also play his worst move? Or does it assume that its opponent will play his best move?

Interested to see those M8s by Martin. Curious what lines the computer will take

@whocares2277

Жыл бұрын

3-5 moves to get two queens behind the pawns, rest to checkmate the king.

Eval bar on the third one had a stroke

Martin would lose even against a king😂😂😂

@chrisgidishki2264

Жыл бұрын

Nah he woud get checkmated

2:38 chess is draw when played perfectly..

5:20 I think I know exactly why the evaluation swung wildly. After that move he's got enough queens on the diagonal attacking h2 so you couldn't stop him from getting in the backline!

@BigDBrian

Жыл бұрын

this has happened in some other crazy positions too, where the evaluation is so high to one side that stockfish freaks out and displays the opposite side winning instead

@reshirman

Жыл бұрын

nah, it has something to do with the way the eval bar is programmed, the value is so high it goes to the other end and ends up being negative, but it gets corrected after a small variation on the valuation

Excellent video the first game made me laugh poor Martin. Can you beat Martin with just a bishop and a king Nelson? I've seen it done but it does look very tricky 😳 🤔

8:11 Qhh7, but noone is perfect

At this point, Martin is no more the dumb guy at his class

I played Martin myself against 31 queens. I actually lost the first 2 times. Then I realized I just had to advance my pawns together and Martin won't take them.

how can I play custom positions like these ?

How are you able to change the pieces?

When the quad stacked pawns are one of the least cursed parts of the video

How do you have that "bar" set up during the game

the 1st game: When games are played perfectly, It will always end in a draw

That was a cute video. :) "How much of an advantage does Martin need to beat a grandmaster?"

@SupremeSkibidi

Жыл бұрын

How do i install this cheess game?

If pawns can only move 1 if they start on the first line if they move to the 2nd line could they then move 2?? To the 4th line??

Martins's king piece do be sleeping around.

He should've begun with, "Once a pawn a time..."

9:50 why didnt u move pawn from c5 one up ?

8:11 how did you not find that mate 😂😂😂

He sacrificed.. THE ROOK!!! the video

Imagine, the all day “case” between Martin (King) and all those wifes lol

Many of these remind me of the variant "Dunsanyi's Chess"

how do you do custom positions bro

martin mate in 8 well i have difficult times doing this but lucky i found it. Actually i think its not mate in 8 cuz i found some mate in 7 moves well here it is Qaa7 trying to attack the king well we will block it with a pawn so e3, then black will sacrifice his queen to check the king so Qaxc2 then we play bxc2, and also we dont want to take the pawn on c2 since we want the diagonal of the 2 queens so i have to play first Qxe3 so that my Queen on c6 will attack the c2 pawn and the diagonal so that we can prepare for the attack so Qxe3 and why not c3 blocking the attack well the two queens on the diagonal can lead to checkmate why not c3? Well first move is Qf2+ any king moves is now a checkmate if Kh1 then Qg1 is checkmate and if Kh3 then Qh7 is a checkmate. So lets continue.... Qxe3 then Qxc2+ anywhere king moves its a checkmate in 2 except Kg3, and if queen blocks theres Qe2 and Qd2, ill explain one by one If Kg3: Qxe5+ any king moves leads a mate so queen blocks at f4 then Qg1+ no matter king goes Qh8# its checkmate. If Qd4: Qxd4+ then King either h1, h3 or g3 and ill discuss this again one by one.... if Kg3: Qg1+ any king moves Qh2# if Kh3: Qh7+ king moves to g3 then Qh2# if Kh1: might be tricky to find since if i move Qh7+ its a mate in 2 still. But theres still another way which is Qxe5 threating checkmate on the next move since king cannot move any move white plays Qh2# One final move is Qe4: Qxe4+ its still the same moves in Qxd4+ so dont worry I calculated this in almost 20 minutes, its a true challenge for me. Well its checkmate in 7 not 8 didn't use any chess apps reply to me if theres something i missed thx :)

@pronesstrusthenotcreator

Жыл бұрын

Too long i guess ;-;

@pronesstrusthenotcreator

Жыл бұрын

You might be saying at the earlier after Qa7 why not block it with the d pawn, well to open up a file for the b5 Queen to attack the king and youre making 3 queens aligned at the diagonal

@DemicotCute

Жыл бұрын

@Pronesstrus one question, remember if Qd4 then Qxd4+, if i play Kh1 then I play f4 blocking the Qh2#, where should I move?

@pronesstrusthenotcreator

Жыл бұрын

@@DemicotCute Qh8# lol anyways thx for your question

Can anyone explain why pawns are favored so much by the engine in the queens vs pawns game? Is it because going first is really good in that position for some reason, or is it just because the engine doesn't want to deal with such a ridiculous board?

I suck at chess never tried learning besides basic move ability, so I always lose to people who actually play the game but WOW this challenge to me should have been him winning or at worst a draw every game.

I was surprised that Nelson missed the mate in 2 at 8:11 I mean I get that this position is untypical but still... 1. Qhg7+ (Qhg8+ also work) Qf7 2. Q7xf7#

8:14 the M2 was Qh7+, he is forced to block with his queen, then u take it and checkmate!!!

@ZADARGG

Ай бұрын

Which queen tho? Theres 2 queens that can Go there

1:33 Instead of Nxd5, the best move was Nxh5. After gxh5, Rxh5 and you don't lose your rook.

@8:13 mate in 2: corner queen to G7; black queen blocks; take black queen by moving from G7 to F7.

In the queen challenge, the mate in 2 was Qh7, feel free to correct me if im wrong

How do I get custom starts like this?

How do you set it up like this?

Solo una cosa ¿porque le cambiaste de español latino a castellano en el final?

how do you do these interactions?

Interesting, what is the max count of moves, until mate. With queens vs pawns. Focus to upper right pawn and take material, until diagonal is open. So roundabout 5 moves. No move to decrease velocity 🤔

When the king is a lucky guy 😂

Martin the type of player to play better with all pawns vs all queens

Where do we arrange such a custom chess design? Can someone help?

Martin's GOD MOD

I like the delayed bongcloud opening in the first game.

9:50 missed fork

8:14 H7 queen was the mate in 2, king can't go anywhere so he must block with the queen

The first game was a hyper delayed bongcloud

All my sacrifices means nothing ~Martin

Second mate was nice

Let's swab position for even much more fun Stockfish / Komodo dragon 3200 ELO vs NM Nelson 2200 ELO with 31 Queens LOL

How do I get or give extra pawns, queens or whatever??

Where can I play these puzzles?

So funny when you say, he didn't see it, when it's actually just a bot xD

3:59 This could be in a chess puzzle

Can't believe you couldn't find the mat in two! It was so super simple!!!

In the second match he said the pawns were the reason we didint get mated immediately but it would technically be stalemate immediately lol😂(love your content❤❤)

go martin go!

The tie breaker could be the first position but with eight fewer pawns.

8:10 Mate in two is: Qhg7+, Qf7, 7xf7#

at 8:10 the M2 is Qhh7+ qf7, Qhxf7#

How do i install this chess game?

For mate in 2 u just had to go Qh8 to Qg7 then when he blocks u just take with Qg7

How many times have you played against Martin in total from all your videos 😅

The underpromtion in position 2 really destroyed my body

8:11 Q h8 to h7 is mate in 2 i think because the only move black can do is blocking on f7 and then you take

@Bismarck-S

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was surprised he didnt see it. I saw it and im 750, lol

@toolng1798

Жыл бұрын

@@Bismarck-S im 950 lol

@Bismarck-S

Жыл бұрын

@@toolng1798 Im, 1100 now

How does one make custom games like this?

M2 was queen from h8 to g7, king has no where to go so can only block with queen from f4 to f7, then take qf7 checkmate haha