How Magnus DESTROYS Pins
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🎙I apologize for the poor audio quality! I'll be working on fixing this ASAP!
@sammarks9146
Жыл бұрын
It sounds like you're yelling. Not doing that might help.
@soulgamer9108
Жыл бұрын
Its alright you already analyzed thousands of his games what more could we want
@presterjack9764
Жыл бұрын
@@sammarks9146 He's not yelling, it sounds like clipping or compression
@robertstewart239
Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with KZread videos is NOT being able to hear. This one, I had to turn the volume away down. No problem with sound quality. I could hear you perfectly.
@spidysfunvideos4718
Жыл бұрын
Ok
Next: How Magnus responds to checkmate
@yanibensalem5299
Жыл бұрын
Keaya ? What are you doing here ?
@dylanjackson7809
Жыл бұрын
The tho
@sendoxx
Жыл бұрын
"Nice try"
@valeckseimu3132
Жыл бұрын
He sue you for cheating and u get ban from torney
@first_senpai1473
Жыл бұрын
Shakes hand and moves on in life
I now see the difference between Magnus and me. That is, sometimes I ignore the pin as well, but Magnus doesn't lose the queen in the process.
@ChessVibesOfficial
Жыл бұрын
😂
@raularnela3654
Жыл бұрын
😂😂 that was good
@LordVoid666
Жыл бұрын
@@ChessVibesOfficial u ever wanted to ask Magnus why do u ignore it alot and why did he want to do chess in the first place?
@lucasbortoluzzi9369
Жыл бұрын
Actually you got to be sure that your counter attack goes somewhere to allow doubled pawns. Not surprising it is more common at higher elo
@tylerharrington4515
10 ай бұрын
@@lucasbortoluzzi9369 That's insightful
The way I see it, Magnus does not ignore the threat 55% of the times, he just delays his counter by a few moves.
@jaym6945
Жыл бұрын
The way I see it is that he values a tempo higher than not having doubled pawns
@emilianozamora399
Жыл бұрын
Eventually you will respond to it wether you want to or not
@jackgallagher4146
Жыл бұрын
in a game where each move should be treated like gold. I think it's fair to class a delay for a few moves as an ignore
@thomaschesscafe
Жыл бұрын
@@jackgallagher4146 Nice perspective
@johnowens22
Жыл бұрын
He creates a bigger threat for his opponent that the original opponent's pin.
I think it's tempting to focus on the 55%... but it's also important to note that almost half the time Magnus does react. You have to have the right positioning to ignore the pin. And Magnus is probably much better than most at being in the position to take advantage of ignoring it
@macronerd
7 ай бұрын
That is a terrific (and admittedly easily overlooked perspective). I think @chessvibesofficial did a phenomenal job on the analysis, but when we consider 55% ignores/45% reacts, it does make it seem a little less insightful perhaps? I am a huge proponent of ignoring pins. I think psychologically it takes a little wind out of your opponent’s sails, but you do have to keep an eye on it and be sure to have a development plan.
A mindset I developped by playing shogi is "if I can't react in a way I'm ok with, I have to attack where it hurts" and it's actually the concept here, focusing on influence and aggro when under pressure.
@WishfulCreation
Жыл бұрын
that mindset is definitely applicable in chess too
@flashproductions9148
Жыл бұрын
Sun Tzu the Art Of War
Timestamps: 1:25-2:29 Moved Queen 2:35-4:00 Defended with Knight 4:06-5:15 Defended with Queen 5:40-6:44 Blocked with Bishop 6:50-9:12 Attacked with Flank Pawn 9:30-12:43 Ignored 12:43-13:22 Summary
@user-pu4di1hu3f
Жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@RealElonMusk6969
Жыл бұрын
You’re a chad
@diomehiro2
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@abhiramholla2221
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@renesshyt
11 ай бұрын
a little late but thx mate
“It isn’t a checkmate, it’s just a king sacrifice.”
Damn Nelson thank you for working so hard on one topic for us which occurs a lot in our regular games
@jackgallagher4146
Жыл бұрын
i like that idea that you treat a known opponents next move you can't effectively respond to as you have 2 times per turn
Thank you for taking the time to post and analyze this! The bishop pin to the knight is the most common early opening... Almost every game I play my opponent does this, and it's my least favorite move. It's more annoying than anything, and I always find a way to un-pin as soon as possible, and then punish them for daring to threaten my king or queen.
3:29 By moving his Queen there he also pins the knight to the white king, which was previously defending e4
GREAT video! This is becoming one of my favorite chess channels. People talk about chess style all the time with GMs; that's easy enough to see in a broad sense, but the specifics are not. This kind of statistical breakdown over commonly occuring positions (here, a pinned queen) gives real, teaching insight beyond just characterizing style of play in a word. I wish you success to keep making these specific types of videos. This seems like a ton of work, and it's very instructive. Gonna share this with some friends now. Making a contribution to your channel atm is just too hard for me to do (hopefully soon, I'd love to support this channel) , so sharing is the least -- or most? -- I could do. Either way, thanks again for this great video!
I appreciate the effort that went into video. Very interesting. Cheers
@IDMYM8
5 ай бұрын
I too
@michaelsumner-ru9bo
2 ай бұрын
Amazing how I play like magnus 55 %of the time yet lose 95% of the time.
My favourite opening with white is the Blackmar-Deimer Gambit. With black, it's the Dutch Defense.
@danielyuan9862
Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit black's opening?
@benprescott9217
Жыл бұрын
@@danielyuan9862 It's a gambit for white, and the beauty of it is that it can transpose into other openings like the French or Caro-Kann if black doesn't want to accept the gambit.
@f2pkx463
Жыл бұрын
Wth is blackmar-deimer gambit All I know is queen pawn/king pawn
@DieFlabbergast
Жыл бұрын
Either you're a tactical/combinatorial genius, or you lose a lot of games :)
@benprescott9217
Жыл бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast It's a bit of both lol
You must have put in many hours in analyzing all those situations, thank you so much for yet another amazing video!
Very interesting bit of information. Thank you for putting this all together.
Excellent focus on the subject about "pin" on the knight! Thank you for your effort in presenting this subject . More success to your endeavors sir!
I love how your videos are straight to the point and you explain clearly.. most chess channels want to give too much of their input, confuse you with a lot of moves the best players dont even do for a reason, and never get to the point! Great content brother
can we just appreciate the fact that he had to find 100 games that Magnus was pinned ⁉️
Excellent video! Thank you so much for putting the time to analyze all of these games, NM Nelson!
Such a useful video, great work on the research, this channel is golden
Thank You, Nelson! Very enlightening, I will be using these examples tomorrow at my Chess Club. Also, wanting you to know that there are so many examples of such diligent work on your part in the sharing of many such excellent examoles. Your Ch. is always greatly appreciated. Have a Grand Day!! ..... Mike.
You say he "ignores" it but he eventually Castles out of it, that's why his next two moves after the pin was to make room for the king to castle ASAP
thanks for putting in the work on this video. I used to always either immediately break the pin or threaten the bishop. Now I try other things first
This channel has to be amongst the top 3 channels on youtube when it comes to learning Chess! Love your work mate..
Wow, really informative. Thanks for all the work you put into gathering this knowledge for everyone!
you really do your research. kudos and love your channel, man! can you maybe also share a vid on openings beyond e4e5?
Great info. Thanks for putting in the work.
So he seems to look for ways to have his defense serve his own attack and otherwise just lets the opponent capture. That's a great lesson!
Magnus truly embodies the saying "The best defense is a good offense"
That was so interesting. keep doing great work man.👍
This was great, please do more of these!
Amazing way to explain, so complete and really full of examples and information, thank you!
Your efforts must be appreciated. It is not easy to find 100 good games and analyze them. The video is very helpful and it vanished one of my difficulties
Great extensive analysis. Cracked me up when Nelson failed to say "easily"
I'm absolutely brand new to chess, so this is probably an example of what I should not be watching at this moment, but brilliant food for thought, so many options scenario dependent. Thank you for taking the time!
This is a great video. This video will surely improve my future chess gameplay and skills. Thank you very much.
Magnus' reaction to that pin:
Super helpful! Thank you for this vid!
Thanks for sharing the hard works man. Much appreciated..and God bless
brilliant!! that is true chess analysis. I wish I could see more like this one!
One could argue that moving the bishop in the first example is not ignoring it, but is preparing to castle so the knight is no longer pinned. Great info, thanks
Nice deep dive into studying Magnus' games. Thanks for sharing.
In example one, moving the queen, it would have been nice to see the next move by Magnus. I'd imagine he defended against the knight but still seeing his next move and (depending on your expertise, 1st time viewer) if he wanted the knight to come in or if he should have just moved the queen to defend against the knight initially. Love the content idea. Edit: just saw you're titled so your expertise is obviously valued.
Nice work finding and summarizing all these games, thanks! Since all these pins happen in different scenarios, and not all of them threathen doubling the pawns, it would be nice to see how he responds to the actual threat of doubling a pawn.
I really like your videos, not only are they entertaining but I learn something with every video, thanks.
There's Magnus ignoring the pin and winning and then there's me ignoring the pin and getting smothered or ending up in a fork
"You can do it Nelson" 🤣🤣🤣
Hey Nelson, I have a challenge for you Play a match against Martin, but "without" your Queen, and both of your Rooks. You are allowed to promote your Pawn to a Rook, but not to a Queen. Good luck!
Incredible job for us, Nelson 👍 Thx a lot 💖
I think in the case of a queen pin, you can flank pawn attack because queen just recaptures and pawn structure isn't damaged. It also prepares the escape square for a kingside castle. Additionally, in a king pin, I think its best to move the bishop as it defends the knight and develops a piece. Despite Magnus ignoring over half of the time, my observations are probably better for lower rated players because we may not know how to take advantage of the position and just being a pawn or other down. I'd like some feedback to know if my analysis was good as a low rated player. Edit: Considering the counter attack option, it does seem good but again, its a lot easier for a low rated player to not know how to counterattack correctly and defending may seem like the more solid option.
@christopherheckman7957
Жыл бұрын
Someone else commented about whether the numbers change for pins on the king as opposed to pins on the queen.
@lesgoshooping6695
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherheckman7957 didn't see it
3:24 me when I'm trying to form a damn simple phrase in English 😂
Thanks for another excellent video Nelson I have learnt alot from you!
Appreciate the time and effort you put into this video!! Thank you very much!!!!
2% of the time he moved his queen. 1:24 3% of the time he defended with the knight. 2:34 4% of the time he defended with the queen. 4:05 13% of the time he blocked with the bishop. 5:38 23% of the time he attacked with the flank pawn. 6:49 55% of the time he ignored the pin and continued developing. 9:26
Thanks for the analysis. You must have put a lot of effort in. You definitely got some useful results.
Nelson, you're a real one! Keep up the good work.
Note the “ignore” play happens in Q gambit w the pawn gone so no double pawn in recapture. Major factor.
Great analysis. Thanks 🙏
This is a very good idea from you. You can make othet analysises of magnus responses to certain positions/openings/inputs
I like these analysis videos. You might even consider using all grandmaster-level games as an initial starting point, although the dataset would be much larger.
Very good Nelson. Thank you for the effort.
Thank you. So informative 🎉
I almost always immediately kick with the A/H pawn. I’m going to mess around with not responding immediately to it and see how that feels.
That is a lot of work but the presentation is worth watching. Thank you.
Great analysis! I appreciate it very much.
When you say he ignores it, it looks like this only happens in specific scenarios: i.e. he sees an easy oportunity to move the piece behind the knight outmof the way in a way that helps him more
My god, such detailed analysis
You can do it, Nelson! 😂
I really love your sense of humor. And everything else!
Next suggestion: how Nelson responds to hate comments Edited: I don't know how serious Nelson analyze this. This dedication is so underrated
I love this video. This was a lot of effort.
TY for the video. Bobby fischer had the same mindset, that the best defense is a good offense.
You should have made two seperate charts for knight pinning to king and knight pinning to queen and other things as there he can move the knight too
@GanonTEK
Жыл бұрын
Good point. The orange segment there I think only makes good sense if it's a Queen that's pinned which probably happens on average 50% of pins. Otherwise, you're going to double up your pawns. I think if you had separate charts, the queen pin one could double the orange segment and probably be the most popular option and in the king pin one, that option might go to 0% and be the lowest choice.
Should have also factored if he won the games. Each color wedge could be split into light and dark color for wins and losses.
One of your best videos. Makes me wonder how other players handle the same thing
Great research.
Can you do about queen and king fork, queen secured, or queen pin
crazy video, huge props! you did a really good job there!
Magnus: "Ignores Pins" Me: "Moves the pinned piece"
Enlightening! Thanks for putting so much time and effort into creating and presenting the best contents for us. 🙏❤
thank you nelson now i wont fail to win in a boxing game as i now know dogs bark
This is Chessvibes is one of the best chess channels. The content is original and instructive
How do you find the time? I am learning so much and truly am gratified with your expeertise.
I'd be curious to see win/lose/draw% for each of the slices, also
dude, i want you to make a video on literally everything. I heart data
Opponent: Ha! I opened up your structure! Magnus: No, you opened up my attack
Cut to Hikaru gratefully watching this in his hotel room the night before his next match with Magnus. Fantastic video btw!
@ChessVibesOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Haha I don't think my research is THAT good!
These type videos are amazing content
Appreciate this video Thank u for uploading :)
The moment you showed the spreadsheet, you earned a like from me. Respect to the effort.
I noticed in not one of the examples the pin happened very early in the game (as usually happens in beginner games). So I wonder what's the best response for that scenario
Interesting question is: how many times his move directly after the pin will result in double pawns in case the opponent decides to take the pinned piece?
I think it would have been nice, if you had included some examples of the flank pawn attack with a pin on the king. Usually the pawn structure feels very awkward if the opponents decides to capture (especially early on in the game). And: Are there any differences in percentage when it comes to "attack with flank pawn" on King vs Queen pin?
@christopherheckman7957
Жыл бұрын
That was what I was going to say. 8-) With a pin on the king, you obviously can't move the knight, and you probably wouldn't with the queen, but there might be a combination where you checkmate or win more than a queen.
Did you do the data yourself or do you have a team? These are impressive findings
@peeepeeepooopooo
Жыл бұрын
its 100 games
@Danso_3000
Жыл бұрын
@@peeepeeepooopooo A hundred that had to first be found and selected out of several thousand, where such pins occurred.
@peeepeeepooopooo
Жыл бұрын
@@Danso_3000 you can just keep going down the top games list and see if any of them have pins its max gonna take like 2 hours max, and he didnt actually look at thousands of games lmao
@christopherheckman7957
Жыл бұрын
@@Datscrazi231 He could narrow things down by searching the text (as one big PGN file) for "Bb5", "Bb4", "Bg5" and "Bg4". This wouldn't give you The List, but you can search the text for "Nc6" (if Bb5 has shown up), "Nc3", etc. Of course that STILL isn't the complete process, but you've likely filtered out a lot of games that don't involve pinning. (Disclaimer: I'm not saying this is how Nelson did it, just how you *can* use a computer search to get rid of games where obviously there was no pin.)
@justadepressedguywithnobi
Жыл бұрын
Him and his dog maybe
thank you well appreciated! this is so good for my play.
Nice work nelson!
Appreciate the effort that went into this! I dont think ignores is the right word, I think its more like counter-attacks?
you have really put work in this video and its cool
Very interesting study! Thanks