I Found a Weird Touch Screen iMac G3

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I found a really weird TOUCH SCREEN iMac G3, and with the help of ‪@Mac84‬ got it working. Let's put it the rest of the way together, and see what kind of fun we can have with it.
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🍎 Elo drivers, thanks to Mac84: macintoshgarden.org/apps/elot...
🍎 Article from back in the day: www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic...
🍎 Product info on the touch tech: www.touchwindow.com/c/iTouch_...
🍎 MJD's video: • The Prototype TOUCHSCR...
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  • @Tsaukpaetra
    @Tsaukpaetra10 ай бұрын

    Crazy how an OS designed mouse-with-only-one-button first would work well with a single-point touchscreen... 😅

  • @williamlafrance2514

    @williamlafrance2514

    10 ай бұрын

    what are the odds, eh ?

  • @bland9876

    @bland9876

    10 ай бұрын

    Well you got to remember Mac is made with only one mouse button in mind instead of two like Windows.

  • @imark7777777

    @imark7777777

    9 ай бұрын

    I have been using Mac OS X with a touchscreen for the past couple of years once I found a compatible one. I'm going to have to take the system out and turn it on cause I think there's a way to right click.

  • @nottrevorallen
    @nottrevorallen10 ай бұрын

    good to see ELO have found new hobbies after they disbanded in the 90s

  • @stevethepocket

    @stevethepocket

    10 ай бұрын

    Groose couldn't bring them down!

  • @MaxOakland

    @MaxOakland

    10 ай бұрын

    Hehe

  • @nickk6518

    @nickk6518

    10 ай бұрын

    Darn, you beat me to it! Great minds think alike, though, eh?!

  • @RealEpikCartfrenYT

    @RealEpikCartfrenYT

    10 ай бұрын

    I was hoping someone would make a joke like this

  • @mikeyjnz

    @mikeyjnz

    10 ай бұрын

    That was really out of the blue!

  • @noemedmedia
    @noemedmedia10 ай бұрын

    Imagine a world where all tech companies, and their customer support, just lingered on forever and you could just contact them when you need help with decades-old devices

  • @20EsOfficial

    @20EsOfficial

    10 ай бұрын

    to me, this is ideal in every situation, like parts and such, also drivers

  • @MatroxMillennium
    @MatroxMillennium10 ай бұрын

    Damn, I've never had luck e-mailing a company about old software. That's awesome. EDIT: Actually that's a lie. I forgot about the time I e-mailed ART about the software for the EPP-1 EPROM programmer and they got back to me with DOS software, Windows 3.1 software, and a manual detailing the serial commands in case I wanted to use it on my own from terminal software.

  • @MSmith-Photography
    @MSmith-Photography10 ай бұрын

    Of course the Royal Canadian Air Farce would be in the Canadian Encyclopedia. 🤣🇨🇦

  • @atemoc
    @atemoc10 ай бұрын

    That is not something I expected to see! I'm also glad some companies still keep and provide old software for older hardware, and that within a day! Seriously awesome stuff.

  • @GeorgeGrig
    @GeorgeGrig10 ай бұрын

    Very cool technology! It is based on wave time reversal; in essence, every time you touch the screen you create waves that are sensed at the perimeter. Taps at different locations create different waves at the perimeter. Then the wave time reversal property is used to solve the inverse problem i.e., given the signal at the perimeter, where is the source/finger. My PhD was on a similar topic!

  • @theodoredurst6931

    @theodoredurst6931

    10 ай бұрын

    The first time I used a touch screen was 1979 (to move a chess piece) and I believe it employed a similar technology. Was on a PLATO terminal in a computing lab at the University of Illinois, so there may have been patent concerns (would have cost money to license) as well as political (Jobs reportedly hated anything to do with the Newton) and artistic (Jobs again) in the decision for Apple not to do this. Still, a neat piece of kit and well presented.

  • @nyanpasu64

    @nyanpasu64

    10 ай бұрын

    How does the touch sensor detect finger swipes and releases? Do they generate vibrations? How do you distinguish between a touch and a release?

  • @loleq2137

    @loleq2137

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@nyanpasu64that's what I'd like to know, as well! Both the video's and George's blurbs about the tech don't make this clear

  • @GeorgeGrig

    @GeorgeGrig

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes, it's elastic waves a.k.a. vibrations. The wave time reversal property is manifested if one records the scattered waves from an unknown source in a domain, reverse the obtained signal (flip it chronologically) and resend it, then the waves will backpropagate taking the exact same path (only in reverse) and refocus uniquely at the location of the unknown source. Take the example of a pond, where you throw a rock. Waves/ripples will emerge from the entry point and start propagating to the shore. If we could measure the wave height at some locations along shore throughout the process, flip the signal and regenerate the waves from these points, then the recreated signal would refocus/peak at the rock's entry point uniquely. In the case of the screen, the backpropagation is not performed in practice. I believe the engineers have a library of signals from all possible tap points on the screen, and match it with the input you give at any given time. Still, the uniqueness of the match relies on the validity of wave time reversal. Prof. Mathias Fink is the pioneer behind the technique that has found application in many fields, from medicine to geosciences and wireless communications. I recommend that you do a quick search for his lecture at HKUST; it's very interesting! Lastly, engineers have used the same technique to develop screens with haptic feedback. In that case, the perimeter emits a wave (backpropagation is performed) and the signal refocuses under your finger.

  • @nyanpasu64

    @nyanpasu64

    10 ай бұрын

    MJD's video shows a diagram where the touch sensor is both emitting SAWs and receiving them, rather than listening for vibrations created by the finger's movement. So that's a thing I guess...

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai10 ай бұрын

    Contrary to popular belief, touch screens have existed way before smartphones. I remember these kiosk computers in our local mall in the 90s here in Brazil that were touch screen. You could see the map of the mall, find stores you were looking for, events coming up if they had any... they were neat!

  • @MitchMatrixx

    @MitchMatrixx

    10 ай бұрын

    And lets not overlook the most prolific and ubiquitous CRT touch screen device that predates modern devices, but is still widely in use today: The ATM Granted, most of these machines have since been retro-fitted or upgraded to LCD technology, but try to imagine life without them in the 90s and early 2000s.

  • @hateWinVista

    @hateWinVista

    10 ай бұрын

    Definitely existed way before smartphones, difference tech though. The most common and cheap ones are resistive touchscreens, which requires you to press down the screen with actual force(stylus for accuracy). Another common one is infrared touch sensor that doesn't need an extra overlay over the display, common on bigger interactive screens like kiosks, can malfunction if there's dust accumulation on the side of the screen.

  • @fnjesusfreak

    @fnjesusfreak

    10 ай бұрын

    I've seen an Apple //e with a touch screen in 1986.

  • @fnjesusfreak

    @fnjesusfreak

    10 ай бұрын

    @@MitchMatrixxMost ATMs I've seen back in the day weren't touchscreen-based.

  • @dave4shmups

    @dave4shmups

    10 ай бұрын

    They definitely have. Remember the touchscreen in the first Die Hard movie?

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g10 ай бұрын

    20 years later, still no more touch screen Macs.

  • @VeeLanger
    @VeeLanger10 ай бұрын

    So wild that you and MichaelMJD both managed to get one of these and both happened to release your videos on it roughly the same time

  • @PeterGroenink
    @PeterGroenink10 ай бұрын

    Myst woud be a nice touch game to play

  • @MichaelAStanhope
    @MichaelAStanhope10 ай бұрын

    Wow Sean... what a touching video!

  • @labradorgeek
    @labradorgeek10 ай бұрын

    9:33 lol seeing this made me realize that my province didn't change it's name til 2001 lol We were Newfoundland but after that we became Newfoundland & Labrador (im from the Labrador part, the bit connected to Quebec physically). Man i wish we had touch on these back in the day, my uni had these Macs, they were fun when they arrived, its how i first saw the Star Wars Episode I trailer (Quicktime formatted trailer, and a projector later lol). Also 9:55 was a common sight on a friday night here in Canada in the 90s, the Royal Canadian Air Farce show on CBC, they used ot be radio-only with live recordings aired each weekend after 12 noon. 10:58 i had the Giant Sized X-Men #1 version of this disc (with the Incredible Hulk #181 first appearance of Wolverine comic as an added bonus), got it on clearance from my local Radio Shack in Goose Bay, and used it on the Windows 98 machine around 1997. I think the disc was able to do both Mac & Windows, something i had noticed on some demo discs from computer games magazines.

  • @orincat10
    @orincat1010 ай бұрын

    There was a burger king around where I lived that had those around the playground behind plastic facades. They very seldom worked though- most of the time I saw them they were turned off. Walmart also used to have the touch CRT monitors for their hiring kiosks as well.

  • @zandermcnabb7779
    @zandermcnabb777910 ай бұрын

    Back when I was in grade 3 (2009) the school district in Kamloops BC actually used to have a bunch of G3's with debian and the old KDE desktop(they only ran the district on Linux), some of them had this touch screen support too! (And a dual boot with OS 9 at the time)

  • @kbhasi

    @kbhasi

    10 ай бұрын

    KDE 3.5!!!!!! Aaahhhhhhhh the memories!

  • @RealEpikCartfrenYT

    @RealEpikCartfrenYT

    10 ай бұрын

    Glad they were dual bootable. Even when I was little I hated Linux

  • @zandermcnabb7779

    @zandermcnabb7779

    10 ай бұрын

    @@kbhasi I spent AGES trying to figure out the exact OS, but luckily in 2009, there wasn't many distros

  • @zandermcnabb7779

    @zandermcnabb7779

    10 ай бұрын

    @@RealEpikCartfrenYT it was funny, one of the G3's (in orange) had HDD failure, but would netboot linux, and kick to another ramdisk OS (it just took WAY longer to boot)

  • @DominiqueWillkins
    @DominiqueWillkins7 ай бұрын

    Kudos to ELO for responding back and providing with the drivers!!!

  • @MrDeelightful
    @MrDeelightful10 ай бұрын

    Your content is so much fun to watch, you're engaging and you find some WEIRD hardware to focus on! I'm glad MichaelMJD will be doing a video on that touchscreen tech, I've *never* heard of a touchscreen CRT even if it was fudged (in a very innovative way) into the iMac G3 chassis. I really love seeing these proto-versions of tech I use all the time. I was so excited for you to put this video out after watching the Patreon quick-look at this weird thing. But I'm always glad to see an upload from you. Have a great one man!

  • @Juanguar

    @Juanguar

    10 ай бұрын

    I remember LGR did a video on one made by IBM Edit : found it kzread.info/dash/bejne/g3mOp7iyZsSvp9o.html

  • @magmasoul4001

    @magmasoul4001

    10 ай бұрын

    Even hp had one

  • @hidde1626
    @hidde162610 ай бұрын

    That was really cool of ELO to actually send the driver.

  • @camerongray1515
    @camerongray151510 ай бұрын

    I actually remember using one of these back in around 2003! It was at the Discovery Cove park in Florida being used as a kiosk to order photos/videos that had been taken of your group throughout the day. I remember being amazed/baffled by it - I was in primary (elementary) school at the time where iMac G3s were ubiquitous so it was amazing to me that these were touch screen whereas all the others I'd used up until that point weren't. Wasn't until years later that I remembered them, looked them up and found out that they were using the Elo system rather than being a complete product from Apple.

  • @ActionRetro

    @ActionRetro

    10 ай бұрын

    Hah awesome!

  • @NoahHerman
    @NoahHerman10 ай бұрын

    love that your channel’s content is performing well! this stuff is sick, keep it up :)

  • @trinastechnobabble
    @trinastechnobabble10 ай бұрын

    You're welcome from a Canadian for the encyclopedia plus :)

  • @pkf4124
    @pkf412410 ай бұрын

    I have a couple of ELO LCD touch screens they are great and work just fine despite being a decade or so old. The acusticwave tracking was used by 3M when they made a touch screen projector in the early 2000’s. I was a repair engineer for them. It was under used and could have been so much more.

  • @RealEpikCartfrenYT

    @RealEpikCartfrenYT

    10 ай бұрын

    I have seen touchscreen projectors before and I think it's a really cool idea

  • @foxhack5011
    @foxhack501110 ай бұрын

    I got a copy of that Blockbuster guide as a prize for winning a computer contest back in 1998. That brought back some memories.

  • @chadmasta5
    @chadmasta510 ай бұрын

    Someone should make a port of doom to specifically take advantage of this thing. I know it's niche but if someone was willing to make a portrait mode version of doom for one monitor then I don't think this would be out of the question.

  • @flipkibblez
    @flipkibblez10 ай бұрын

    I used to own some Elo touch panel kits for crts. one ended up in my HP M50 monitor about ten years ago.

  • @RealEpikCartfrenYT
    @RealEpikCartfrenYT10 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised that actually works so well. I personally thought of finding an old ELO monitor and using it as a graphics tablet for drawing stuff. I think i definitely SHOULD now get hold of a touchscreen monitor

  • @HughJeffreys
    @HughJeffreys10 ай бұрын

    I saw a touch screen iMac G5 at the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground) in about 2013. Had the same USB cable drilled out the back so it could be plugged into the back.

  • @mysterybiscuits
    @mysterybiscuits10 ай бұрын

    At my work we've got a couple of Elo 19" DVI touch screens - only 1280x1024 but still going strong.

  • @Pentium4Proot
    @Pentium4Proot10 ай бұрын

    Mom: we have an ipad at home Ipad at home:

  • @dosdude1
    @dosdude110 ай бұрын

    Well, you know as well as I do that there's only one thing left to do with this iMac... Upgrade it to a G4! (Along with upgrading the L2 cache to 1MB).

  • @ActionRetro

    @ActionRetro

    10 ай бұрын

    Yessssss

  • @Metal_Maxine
    @Metal_Maxine10 ай бұрын

    A Shaun and Steve collab! :)

  • @SinKillerJ
    @SinKillerJ10 ай бұрын

    I always have a weird nostalgia for ELO. In the original version of the MagiQuest attraction we used their touch screens nearly exclusively. The first location even had CRTs, though many of those got replaced with LCDs. The CRTs were not reliable at such long daily run cycles, and the burnin from our static patterns got really bad.

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups10 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video! That is really cool! Elo makes touchscreens for Target’s Point of Sales systems.

  • @SenileOtaku
    @SenileOtaku10 ай бұрын

    I remember seeing a pallet of PS/2 touch-screen monitors, stil in their original boxes, at IBM Poughkeepsie (probably around 2009). I didn't know where they were headed, whether they were for some project or headed for scrap, but I was so tempted to grab one for myself. But a Canadian Encyclopedia? You should have at least used Infopedia. (now that I think of it I should have picked up that copy I saw at VCF East and handed it to you). I had tried getting a boxed version from my old boss at Future Vision Multimedia (along with some of our other titles).

  • @autobotjazz1972
    @autobotjazz197210 ай бұрын

    Touch screens have been around for a surprising length of time , it is just that the early ones were quite expensive and often not very useful as most software was just not compatible or not fully so.

  • @c128stuff
    @c128stuff10 ай бұрын

    I remember when mesa was getting hardware acceleration support initially. Yes, it took years for that to get it to work really well.

  • @tino768
    @tino76810 ай бұрын

    1:05 Actually (yeah, I'm being THAT guy) California had touchscreen lottery machines in the 90s. No stylus required, just your finger.

  • @The-i-Shakk
    @The-i-Shakk10 ай бұрын

    Pretty cool. I love the iMac G3, we had a lab full of them in 1999 in school. I have a Bondi Blue Rev A, a Blue Dalmatian (the rarest perhaps) , and a G3 Blueberry.

  • @yusef3132
    @yusef313210 ай бұрын

    I'm sure there has to be touch screen drivers for doom and w3d that can be ported over from an iPad. Might have to modify, I'm guessing. Also as far as the plastics, I'm surprised no one has tried to 3d print at least the smaller parts. The specs have to be online somewhere, I'm thinking... great video as always...

  • @DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs
    @DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs10 ай бұрын

    That is Fanatic Sean amazing Old Tech way ahead of its time

  • @slaneyinfamous
    @slaneyinfamous10 ай бұрын

    i've got a touchscreen eMac that i purchased with no knowledge of the touchscreen mod. completely caught me off guard.

  • @petemc4190
    @petemc419010 ай бұрын

    So happy with touch screen DOTT, in on the edge of my seat for a letsplay touchscreen iMac fun stream!!!

  • @LabCat
    @LabCat10 ай бұрын

    elo has been a major player in the touchscreen game for decades. Chances are that if you used any sort of touchscreen CRT, it was an elo product. I'd heard of these iMacs but have never seen one before, super neat!

  • @alerey4363
    @alerey436310 ай бұрын

    Well, the thumbnail didn't dissapoint; you really made an iMpad out of a vintage iMac G3

  • @Toad17028
    @Toad1702810 ай бұрын

    i perked up when i heard VCF midwest. First one i have been to and looking forward to it all month now

  • @thackerybrown2860
    @thackerybrown286010 ай бұрын

    This is awesome - this video has triggered some old memory in me... I swear I saw this technology at some point. I wonder if it was one of these, or some other funky machine. My IIGS has the touchscreen overlay which is pretty awesome

  • @LotoTheHero
    @LotoTheHero10 ай бұрын

    It is pretty impressive how well that thing works.

  • @danielisaac7586
    @danielisaac758610 ай бұрын

    I love this channel!

  • @growingup15
    @growingup1510 ай бұрын

    That X-Men comic thing. I would have melted as a kid in the early 2000s if I had that program. I used to be a huge X-Men kid :)

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek10 ай бұрын

    I used to work for a company that sold kiosks which used touchscreens. They were LCDs rather than CRTs, but they did have an old touchscreen CRT in the corner of the office that they used to use for prototyping the software. From memory the LCDs had a capacitive touchscreen, and there was a stylus (on a string so it wouldn't get stolen) that the user could use to sign their name on the screen. It was super primitive, like it didn't have palm rejection, so you couldn't rest your hand on the screen while writing. That made it difficult to use since the screen was at about a 30° angle in the kiosk. We had to replace a few of the screens because they'd had the digitiser scratched up and it stopped working. Apparently in one instance there was an old lady with a huge diamond ring who was dragging it across the screen as she wrote with the stylus. That would be a LOT more dangerous with a CRT, since it could cause it to shatter and implode!

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    10 ай бұрын

    Scratching the front of a modern CRT isn't that dangerous. The glass is thicker than it needs to be and if the glass does crack the implosion protection systems work quite well. CRTs (or at least the types in 60s and 70s TVs) also have a separate piece of glass glued over the actual CRT, which will act as the screen protector on a smartphone.

  • @TheResistorNetwork
    @TheResistorNetwork10 ай бұрын

    The folks over at Blockbuster in Bend, OR might find this amusing! Nice one, as usual.

  • @odysseus681
    @odysseus68110 ай бұрын

    Please continue your weitd stuff. so cool.

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo10 ай бұрын

    I barely remember touch screens from before smartphones but I know these existed to me as well. Pretty cool to see despite we are of course used to it already these days 😅

  • @T.Ross.
    @T.Ross.10 ай бұрын

    Awesome & wholesome! Btw, this has probably been suggested but still: would you ever consider installing Mac OS or Linux on an Amiga? Would something like that even be possible? As far as I know, old Macs, Amigas and Atari STs all had the same "wonderchip of the era", the Motorola 68000. 🤔

  • @stgigamovement

    @stgigamovement

    10 ай бұрын

    Back in the olden days, there was software that could run 68K Mac OS on an Amiga, and would use the Amiga's 68K natively. If you used one of the higher-tier Amigas, you could actually exceed the speed of the 68K Macs available at the time. Also, Debian Linux is available in 68K versions, and if you used either no desktop environment or the lightest available one (perhaps LXDE), you can run Linux on this ancient architecture. Also, you might be able to find BSD distributions available for 68K.

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    10 ай бұрын

    @@stgigamovement You could run Mac OS with that software but you'd have a harder time with Linux. Regular Linux requires an MMU and most of the Amigas don't have one.

  • @stgigamovement

    @stgigamovement

    10 ай бұрын

    @eDoc2020 OH on the topic of MMU and Classic Mac OS, it turns out that the popular PowerPC Classic Mac OS emulator SheepShaver for a very long time didn't support the MMU. The highest Mac OS Classic version that you could run on it was Mac OS 9.1. Some games like Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets expect the final Mac OS 9 version of 9.2.2, and won't run on SheepShaver. Mind you, I haven't used SheepShaver in MANY years, but I still have my environment for it on one of my thumb drives, so if they added the MMU in the almost 10 years since I've used it, I could technically upgrade to 9.2.2. Also, SheepShaver does support the method in which Classic Mac OS on PowerPC will run 68K applications. That environment I have does actually contain some 68K software, such as a version of Monopoly made for the older black and white compact Macs. What's special about the version I have is that it actually implements several house rules people commonly add to Monopoly, such as the house rule in which Free Parking can give you money if you land there after some type of collection via something like Chance or Community Chest. Also, I had put Classilla on there, though it wasn't really usable for modern sites even in 2013. However, if your PowerPC Mac is able to run Mac OS X Tiger or better (better being Leopard or that elusive PowerPC beta of Snow Leopard), you can run InterWebPPC on it, which is a fork of relatively-modern Firefox tailored to run on PowerPC hardware, and it has different revisions for different types of PowerPC Macs. It has a G3 version, which is recommended also for use on Intel Tiger, Leopard, or Snow Leopard's Rosetta 1 to browse the more modern web on. InterWebPPC also has two G4 versions, one for early G4 processors, and one for G4e processors that have AltiVec support (you'd often find this processor on later G4 machines like the Power Mac G4 MDD/Mirrored Drive Doors), and then you have the PowerPC G5 version, which, on something like a Power Mac G5 Cypher with its quad-core G5 and 16 gigabyte maximum of RAM and PCI-e slots, could actually play more intensive browser games. Now of course, if you're going to be browsing the modern web you probably will run into emoji at some point, and I'm not sure if InterWebPPC retains Firefox's Mozilla Twemoji. And that's nor even factoring in other Unicode characters standardized long after the heyday of these Macs. For such machines, I currently use the prototype of UnifontEX, my fork of GNU Unifont that focuses on high compatibility, which is currently a prototype until September 12th. Also, part of the compatibility stuff I did is to help it work on older Mac environments (so long as they support TrueType), so you could technically use it under Classic Mac OS.

  • @MitchMatrixx
    @MitchMatrixx10 ай бұрын

    What an interesting take on classic Mac hardware, and thanks for today's touch-screen shenanigans! This does remind me of my modern Dell Precision M3800 Hackintosh with a functioning touchscreen in OS X. It works great in regards to responsiveness and general accuracy, and it's rather novel to control the OS with your finger... But the caveat here is that the interface both then and now, simply hasn't been designed with touch-driven use in mind. The icons are too small and improperly spaced for a smooth experience. Eventually, developers would figure out creative solutions to this issue with the advent and proliferation of the touch smartphone; but I believe that so far, only Windows and Linux have responsive versions of their OS that adapt the UI for touch-driven use. Apple, being the stubborn stalwart that they are have yet to catch up in this area.... though I suspect there's a few builds of touchscreen macOS being test driven across the Apple campus 🤔

  • @osgeld
    @osgeld10 ай бұрын

    crt / glass touchscreens have always been responsive and smooth ... even back in the early 80's

  • @fixative-xyz
    @fixative-xyz10 ай бұрын

    My 1st primary school somehow managed to get a touch screen CRT back in either 1999 or 2000. It didn't work anywhere near as well as this!

  • @armspac
    @armspac10 ай бұрын

    I have a tft elo touchscreen that i use on my win98 PC. Never occurred to me that it might be mac compatible. Need to try that software

  • @robluce2111
    @robluce211110 ай бұрын

    8:35 SURE YOU DID, now we all know you didn't know it was a shrubbery!!!!!!

  • @bad_collector
    @bad_collector10 ай бұрын

    I've been waiting 3 years for this video but I didn't even know it. I picked up two of these in New Hampshire off of Craigslist during peak Covid (one working, one non-working). Same exact model and color. I shamefully caused more damage trying to take apart the broken one thinking I could move the components to a working donor iMac, and learning how hard it is to disassemble an iMac in the process. I even mentioned having a spare one and offering it to Steve at VCF East but then I didn't (yet) reach out. Please reach out if you want another donor parts machine.

  • @Gazdatronik
    @Gazdatronik10 ай бұрын

    As soon as I heard it banging and beeping, I was like, "This is an ELO." I have one tied to my old dell GX260, a cast off from a factory. Damn good monitor but I never use the touch portion.

  • @AlejandroRodolfoMendez
    @AlejandroRodolfoMendez10 ай бұрын

    Honestly I would like some device that do this on any monitor. There was some projects, but this seems like way better than even today stuff.

  • @kickstartnetworking3347
    @kickstartnetworking334710 ай бұрын

    In nakatomi plaza there were touchscreen computers back in the end of the 80s

  • @nonzz3ro
    @nonzz3ro10 ай бұрын

    I remember disassembling an iMac in my youth, somehow I sliced my finger pulling apart the metal assembly and I still have the scar to this day

  • @Natomon01
    @Natomon0110 ай бұрын

    Comic Books were the touchscreens of their day! 😁

  • @davidmyers6342
    @davidmyers634210 ай бұрын

    1:49 Funny enough, or maybe not in my case. My XJ is eating fuel pumps like they're going out of style

  • @caseyjames9570
    @caseyjames957010 ай бұрын

    It's cool that ELO would keep such an old outdated and probably very unrequested driver on hand like that.

  • @Subgunman
    @Subgunman10 ай бұрын

    It would be nice if there was a company that made retrofit kits for the MacBook Pro late 2013. Could use this on my device.

  • @samdmc04
    @samdmc0410 ай бұрын

    my opticians of all places still use flat-panel Elo TouchSystems from the early 2000s… clearly they’re bulletproof

  • @tehsuki11
    @tehsuki1110 ай бұрын

    Dear goodness... this myth exists. I knew where was touch screen monitors this age, but I wonder just what it took to graft the sensors within the iMac's CRT bezel.

  • @Jordansklar0698
    @Jordansklar069810 ай бұрын

    Michaelmjd is one of my favorite youtubers

  • @l11l1venom1l11l
    @l11l1venom1l11l10 ай бұрын

    This is wild!

  • @lowlevelretro
    @lowlevelretro10 ай бұрын

    More Sean-nanigans... yay!

  • @lummatravel
    @lummatravel10 ай бұрын

    I think this must have been what Steve Jobs was talking about when he said they've done research and touchscreens don't work on computers

  • @fenixlolnope361
    @fenixlolnope36110 ай бұрын

    hey sean, can you upload a short or something explaining the focus and brightness knobs on an iMac CRT? I'm trying to fix mine because her color focus is a bit off, but I'm afraid to mess with it without seeing someone talk about it in depth

  • @dionelr
    @dionelr10 ай бұрын

    Very interesting. It makes me wonder why Apple didn’t create products with touchscreens until the iPad (apple newton, notwithstanding). There was a company that sold a touchscreen kit for MacBooks to make them touchscreen capable (you may have done a video on those already- my memory isn’t so great), but they were very invasive to install. This seems to qualify as ‘magical’ to me. 😅

  • @stevethepocket

    @stevethepocket

    10 ай бұрын

    Probably for the same reason they still don't offer touchscreens or even Wacom Penabled screens on Macs: They didn't think touch input made sense for a desktop experience. I remember the keynote where Steve Jobs himself pooh-poohed the idea of reaching over the keyboard to poke at your screen.

  • @Toonrick12

    @Toonrick12

    10 ай бұрын

    @@stevethepocket Which, to be fair, is a good point. That's why it wasn't until screens got big (Both in size and resolutions) enough to hold a keyboard that touch screens became main stream.

  • @hicknopunk

    @hicknopunk

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Toonrick12so the Palm Pilots?

  • @Toonrick12

    @Toonrick12

    9 ай бұрын

    @@hicknopunk I said touchscreens, not poke with a stick screens.

  • @hicknopunk

    @hicknopunk

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Toonrick12 lol

  • @imark7777777
    @imark77777779 ай бұрын

    Thinking back I think the New York State fair used to have a touchscreen iMac in one of the exhibits. I really hope I'm remembering this right? And I didn't have any overlays on the screen so it would've had to of been this style. There's also a company that was retrofitting iMacs with touchscreens for impairments. And I myself find Mac OS X pretty well usable with a touchscreen assuming you can get one that's driver compatible. There are a few downsides when using multiple monitors though mouse cursor needs to be on second/touchscreen otherwise clicks are so registered on primary screen.

  • @john_ace
    @john_ace10 ай бұрын

    There is a simple tool called "virtual cd" on macintosh garden. It can mount ISO and Toast images. Maybe even more RAW-type CD-images.

  • @itstimeforMario64PLAYER
    @itstimeforMario64PLAYER10 ай бұрын

    Michael MJD Did A Video On One Of Those But Not In Pieces and it was a revision c prototype, Revision D Versions are the non prototype of it

  • @OrDuckVet
    @OrDuckVet10 ай бұрын

    The Callahan Auto Parts t-shirt is throwing me off. I thought this was a tech channel. I better see that Jeep’s fuel pump being repaired soon. 😂

  • @retrosim4197
    @retrosim419710 ай бұрын

    I vaguely remember reading an article about this when it was first released. It was round about the same time that Apple started putting CD burners in the iMac and launched their Rip Mix Burn advertising campaign. I also remember reading that there were plans for one of the UK high street stores (WH Smith think) who were going to have self serve kiosks with these things for burning custom music CDs. There was also going to be a printer attached for the album artwork. I don't think it ever happened though. By the way, you should try this using MacOS 9's 'Simple Finder' feature. One of those really useful OS9 things that never made it across to MacOS X.

  • @thetechconspiracy2

    @thetechconspiracy2

    10 ай бұрын

    I believe there was a version of Simple Finder for OS X, though you needed a different user account for it (It was enabled via the Parental Controls, if I recall correctly)

  • @continentalglue
    @continentalglue10 ай бұрын

    My bad, I was checking the specs on the end line for the rotary girder

  • @bretwashere
    @bretwashere10 ай бұрын

    What’s nuts is I have had an iMac DV with the Elo touch module for the last 20 years with original drivers. I should compare the driver versions uploaded to Macintosh Garden and if it’s different, upload it. Also, there are no OS X drivers for it. The condition of my Elo iMac is excellent as well.

  • @georgeprice4212
    @georgeprice421210 ай бұрын

    When did Jeff Lynne get into touch screen Electronics? 😆

  • @stivixhemo7801
    @stivixhemo780110 ай бұрын

    Do the drivers work with mac os x because it would be interesting trying to make minecraft work via touch.

  • @cuttinchops
    @cuttinchops10 ай бұрын

    I got one free 20 years ago, touchscreen and all. Dragged it behind a hearse. 20 years later I now regret it!

  • @inferno10
    @inferno1010 ай бұрын

    I bet Myst would be a perfect match for this system

  • @brandonupchurch7628
    @brandonupchurch762810 ай бұрын

    Gotta give props to ELO, it's getting shitty out here to find drivers for old stuff, many times you're getting lucky to find a file name on the web archive, and then find it on an obscure FTP somewhere and then you have to use an older browser to download it. Sony, HP/Compaq, Intel, Microsoft, and so on have purged all their old support documents from the public facing internet, although humourously enough HP still has a public FTP with all the softpaqs on it just not a good means to locate which softpaqs you need similar story with Microsoft's Knowledgebase and the Update Catalog still having mostly everything in it back to Windows 2000, Compaq stuff from the late 90s I can still find file names in the webarchive, but the type of scripting and super long URL structure HP used in the early 2000s archived very poorly. I don't know if it's still the case but a decade ago when I needed Windows NT 3.x and NT4 updates I found the links in the webarchive and they were still active on Microsoft's servers just the download pages were gone.

  • @CasualSpud
    @CasualSpud10 ай бұрын

    Elo... Touchscreen or 70's rock group 😮

  • @arranmc182
    @arranmc18210 ай бұрын

    No way did they hook it up to the Degaussing coil as that what it looks like WTF that crazy but also a very cool way to do it

  • @msthalamus2172
    @msthalamus217210 ай бұрын

    My shoulders are sobbing just watching you use that thing in a 15 minute video! I couldn't imagine actually sitting at a desk with something like that. Standing at a kiosk where the monitor was mounted at an ergonomic angle and distance would be another thing, but a regular workstation? Ugh.

  • @georgeh6856
    @georgeh685610 ай бұрын

    I would expect the Canadian Encyclopedia to be very short. It only has two topics: hockey and maple syrup.

  • @waterup380
    @waterup38010 ай бұрын

    I remember the movie die heard they used one HP had them in the 1980s

  • @TanzmitTransmit
    @TanzmitTransmit10 ай бұрын

    I was just thinking of McClane encountering a touchscreen crt in Die Hard… “cute toy”

  • @taylorrockhill9274
    @taylorrockhill927410 ай бұрын

    Are you missing the colour 'lips' for the CD drive, or did you just forget to put them back on?

  • @JoanCarballo
    @JoanCarballo10 ай бұрын

    I have one of this! Bought at a street market for 30€...

  • @robertchamberlin2362
    @robertchamberlin236210 ай бұрын

    Super Cool!!!!

  • @aaaaeeeeffffeeeekkkkssss
    @aaaaeeeeffffeeeekkkkssss10 ай бұрын

    You should try getting your hands on a Raptor system if you're so enthusiastic about ppc

  • @zaxchannel2834
    @zaxchannel283410 ай бұрын

    2:23 PSU are often the first thing to go it seems

  • @stpworld
    @stpworld10 ай бұрын

    There wes somoene who used to modd imac 24 inch units with a touch screen but I wasnt sure if it was real or fake. I only ever saw a youtube video. but they did have a link. I also have an ibook gemini but the touch screen isnt working.I also remember my networking teacher worked on one of these and she stupidly touched the sides of it as it was turning on. Theres a flat screen white imac on ebay right now with a touch screen.