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@TradieTrev

4 ай бұрын

How good is sponsor block lol!

@starsINSPACE

4 ай бұрын

I get an error "code cannot be used"

@DDiamondMedia

4 ай бұрын

Yeah hope they paid you a good flat rate and not a cut of a custom code since their code doesn't work (I'm guessing due to new years sale)

@jacobmckenna8661

4 ай бұрын

Time travel?

@Neumaticgrunt

4 ай бұрын

Love how you said you can hardly recommend the chair 😂😂

real ones remember when this was [Draft v3]

@WhoLover

4 ай бұрын

Still is

@atptourfan

4 ай бұрын

How could anyone forget the v2 draft, with all its fun gaffes?! 😂

@SullySadface

4 ай бұрын

It's been 20 minutes

@bomberfish77

4 ай бұрын

Plot twist: it stays like that

@typedrat

4 ай бұрын

@@SullySadfacethirty

Seeing one computer on one channel then seeing it again on a different channel feels like transferring schools and seeing one of your friends transferring with you

@Toonrick12

4 ай бұрын

That's one way to put it. The brotherhood of the traveling clone?

Two pins might be touching with solder at ~4:06, maybe that caused a fault? Either way, I love your shenanigans, thank you for always trying the things I would.

@charliesretrocomputing

4 ай бұрын

Possibly.

@MrPage62

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I saw a possible solder bridge too. That's what happens when you hurry!

@knobbymcfeck

4 ай бұрын

​@@MrPage62 It was probably caught in a double-check once done, but it's still worth a mention just in case!

Use the os-native cc to compile gcc then try again building classiccube with gcc.

@electron8262

4 ай бұрын

Also, shouldnt there be a single - before fno-math-errno, instead of a double one?

@adamsfusion

4 ай бұрын

@@electron8262Yes, that's correct. It's a single hyphen flag.

@0x8badf00d

4 ай бұрын

@@electron8262 He tried both

@shawnmulligan3471

4 ай бұрын

@electron8262 Yes, even though it seems like a long option that uses --, it's actually a short option, "-f", with a parameter (no-math-errno in this case)

@YannBOYERDev

3 ай бұрын

It would take a very long time to build gcc on this machine, even with the 4 processors.

The ergonomic chair C7 is designed to alleviate the discomfort that arises from prolonged periods of sitting in front of a computer.

The compiler instructions for Classiccube may only work for the Intel version of BeOS, and later revs thereof. I seem to remember there were minor differences in compiler options between the two versions which could cause some headaches.

@ActionRetro

4 ай бұрын

Ohhh that makes sense

@darrell857

4 ай бұрын

The output says "mwcc" which could mean Metrowerks C Compiler, GCC might not have the same problem if you can find it. There was definitely a stack size limit on PowerPC compilers back in the day, I don't recall if it was only on Metrowerks, though it was the most popular. The fix was to make stack-based allocations on the heap (using malloc/free) or possibly using alloca() to work around it. For example the declaration "char bigarray[ 32*1024 ];" would produce this error.

@socketwench

4 ай бұрын

@@darrell857 That sounds familiar. I can't remember if I avoided that by allocating my buffers on the heap for the graphics engine I was writing at the time...

@Henderson101

4 ай бұрын

That was my experience trying to get Allegro to compile back in the day.

@Henderson101

4 ай бұрын

@@ActionRetro mwcc is the only compiler for BeOS PowerPC. Just so you are aware. Retro68 can work in the future, be no one has fully ported it yet.

I knew that i recognized that machine.. Colins videos were great.. Nice to see you fool around with it as well. :)

C'mon man, BeOS was not weird, it was awesome and way ahead of it's time.

@eugenioguasco2791

4 ай бұрын

BeOS was a great OS. I installed it the first time when it was at release 3, and I still have the R5.0.3 with drivers and apps downloaded from the old app website. It was very fast and very stable, I still love it!

@grtitann7425

4 ай бұрын

@@eugenioguasco2791 I used the x86 version for as long as I could, but the stupid Win modems of the time forced me to move to Windows. Thanks to MS illegal actions, we lost an amazing OS.

@Toonrick12

4 ай бұрын

How about we say it's weird because it was ahead of its time?

@protonrecuva6717

4 ай бұрын

Haiku OS is an offshoot still maintained. Unfortunatly no Power PC support.

@grtitann7425

4 ай бұрын

@@protonrecuva6717 I know and sadly, that group has wasted a lot of time and opportunities with it. Sadly, we will never get either BeOS not HaikuOS in a proper way .

In before [Draft v3] 🙂 This was such a wild, exuberant computer back in the day. Glad it wound up depreciating better than a Saturn!

I used to own a Quadra 700 and it was getting long-in-the-tooth. I was going to grab one of these, or better yet, make my own from parts when Jobs cancelled the clone program. That is when I decided to "Go to the dark side". I've always been intrigued by these machines.

So trippy. Back in the 90s-00s when I was running BeOS/Haiku, I used that same monitor. Seeing BeOS on a Sony CRT brings back so much.

Always love to see BeOS videos on the channel 🙏

A massive work here in 2024. Bravo.

I love how you manage to fit soo much content into a 16 minute video. Honestly impressive man.

don't know if u will see this. I love that sony CRT! Awesome video for me to wake up and watch n sip coffee too in the mornin!!! Keep it up, whenever i cant afford stuff to work on and mess with, i always know u got the good vintage tech videos. You, LGR, And Action Retro, are among my top tech tubers! KEEP IT UP! Happy new yr.

Oh man, your videos are awesome. Please, keep on!

You are doing the lord’s work. I used to want these computers so much as a young teenager

[draft v14] thanks for this nice video!

I love that you made the ad fun, not just a read . Approved!

I look forward to seeing how far this thing can be pushed :)

Ah, thank you, I've been waiting for this video for a while! Now do Gentoo Linux! Thanks a lot to Colin @ThisDoesNotCompute for providing the quad-604 PPC machine!

@ernestoditerribile

4 ай бұрын

@@cbtillery135 Even funnier to do LFS(Linux from scratch on it)

@YourIdeologyIsDelusional

4 ай бұрын

I just wonder if it's possible to get some form of modern Linux running on it. Everything is probably still too heavy, though, even for a quad 604. Anything older than a G3 typically is no go.

@YourIdeologyIsDelusional

4 ай бұрын

@@cbtillery135 Gentoo sounds funnier. Apparently the Daystar Genesis MP can support 1.5 gigs of RAM (that's actually the same my G4 quicksilver supports), so memory is at least not going to be a bottleneck.

@ernestoditerribile

4 ай бұрын

@@YourIdeologyIsDelusional I think the only modern option which will run smoothly, will be Alpine Linux 32-bit. In a headless configuration. Or with a minimal XFCE desktop.

Got to use those 4 cpu's for something! Happy New year!!!

6:40 of which the monouser, coop-pseudo multitasking non-memory protected, macos 7.5.x could use just one.For a beast like that 9500MP clone you have picked the right multiuser, multimedia-oriented, real multitasking, protected-memory BeOS, which incidentally was considered as a contender for the "next-gen" macos classic successor by Apple itself (and finally losing to NextStep based MacOS X from Jobs himself).

@MaddTheSane

4 ай бұрын

later macOS releases probably took better advantage of MPU. And there were plug-ins that made Photoshop, etc, be multi-CPU-aware.

@DonVintaggio

4 ай бұрын

@@MaddTheSane Yes, photoshop and some other 3D app included extensions to make use of multiple cpus but it was only an app-based thing, and there were very few of them.And the worst part was the os itself: classic macos crashed a lot no matter what number of cpus you had, making it need to save your work constantly (which was really a problem while working on extensive files like a hundred MB psd or a 3D render). It was really a pity: great hardware with lots of cpu, ram, fast scsi disks and weak macos unable to handle the load.And with BeOS the problem was no commercial grade apps available to take advantage of the rock solid unix-like OS.

These shenanigans are amazing. I love to see you giving BeOS some love. I used it very limitedly on a 366mhz Celeron E-machines in the early 2000's. Neat OS, but sadly under developed for daily use.

Shenanigans with a quad-cpu clone! Gotta love that. Looking forward to more with this amazing moose of a Mac.

What a lovely BEAST of a machine.

Thanks to This Does not Compute for lending you this. When watching this system on that channel I was wondering what you would have done with it if you got your hands on it. Hope no one hurt their backs.

@Toonrick12

4 ай бұрын

He bought it from him. Action Retro owns the machine.

BeOS is far from a strange OS, I think it was pretty mainstream.

1:49 "This slot may not work". Thoughtful note from the previous owner.

@Toonrick12

4 ай бұрын

You could say... It does not compute.

Пожелавам Здраве и много успехи през новата 2024 година.Поздрави от София България

That is an awesome machine and awesome to get BeOS running on that.. A quad-core machine from 1995 - who knew?

I used only Macs for years in the 1980s, 1990s, and early 2000s and I have never even heard of a Genesis brand of Mac clone. I remember Umax, Radius, and Power Computing. I looked up a list of Mac clones and there were way more I had never heard of. In the U.S.. In addition to those three, in the U.S. there was APS Tech, Assistive Tech, Daystar Digital (this Genesis), Hardware Research, Mactell, Mac Warehouse, MacWorks, Marathon, Motorola (who made the chips for the Mac), PowerTools, and Vertegri. There were more in Europe and Asia. Some of the U.S. ones are just computer marketing companies like Mac Warehouse for example. That computer looks to be in super good condition!

I love your desk. Real desk not the fake ones most show in the videos

Love Beos. I had 4.5 on a laptop back then.

I love this channel. It’s exactly my interest.

I had just started college in the fall of 1995. The academic computing department had some Mac clone. I didn't use them much but I remember them being glitchy. I done know how well they were maintained. I tried using one to do homework using FileMaker Pro.

Great video✌

Amazing machine. Would've been interesting to see PPC linux on this machine.

@user-kl7kx8pn4c

4 ай бұрын

I would love to see that.

Shout-out to Collin. This isn't usually the kind of hardware you'd give away.

As a fellow sitting down enthusiast and former FlexiSpot sponsoree, I really need to get in on this action 🤔 Oh, and cool computer too, I guess 😅

All you need now is 4 604ev processors running at 350 MHz...

Final Video of 2023?

Holy hell, I remember seeing these as like a tween in like a Mac Mall or something and wondered if they ever shipped…

Oh lord this Could run the PowerPC Version of Amiga OS at lightning fast speed.

such a cool machine. This would be a dream linux computer back in the days as well. I used to use a beige G3 as a linux computer when those where around. sadly I did not keep it.

@vivienm7

4 ай бұрын

Maybe, but I am not sure how good Linux's PPC support or SMP support would have been in 1996. My recollection is that there were huge improvements in SMP in kernel 2.2 (released 1999) and a lot of people were running 2.1.x development kernels on SMP systems prior to that because the 2.0 and earlier kernels were not great at SMP. And a quick Google suggests PPC support for Linux was being added starting in mid-1996, but it's not clear to me whether that PPC port made it to the upstream kernel until 2.2. At the time this Daystar machine came out, kernel 1.2.13 would have been the latest; that's... early... in Linux history.

@proteque

4 ай бұрын

@@vivienm7 you are right. I guess I included the years it took before I could afford to buy it used into it. :) The Beige G3 was old before I got it as well.

2:19 ooooooo it’s one of Colin’s computers. Nice.

I have so many questions. What bus do the processors use to communicate? does each CPU has it's own memory bank? Mac os classic had no memory write protection so if the memory is shared the system will be super unstable. How does the system offload task to other CPUs? Mac os classic had no native SMP support until version 9. Is the task offloading done on an application level or system level? if on system level, how? did Daystar had access to mac os source code? How well will this system run a modern NetBSD\OpenBSD?

yeah, the way BeOS boots must be similar to how A/UX & other BSD things boot on such computers. Mac OS back then had little to no memory protection so in theory, the loader just has to overwrite everything & call it a day.

@Toonrick12

4 ай бұрын

Kind of surprised that little viruses were written for Classic Mac OS.

Great video! I remember playing around with Be OS PE and it looked so promising! Just a suggestion, please stop thwacking the mouse, it's quite unpleasant to listen to 😅

awesome,love this:)

5.03 is the last “official” version, but I used to have a later version that looked like the Dano release on my PowerPC systems. It claimed to be 5.05 or something like that.

That's a lot of computer! Holy grainola!

Like a quad processor Pentium MMX 133 system I guess? Or maybe a quad AMD 5x86 or quad Cyrix 586? Not really sure of what this PPC variant equated to on the x86 side of things. And isn't the FSB like 33 mhz for this thing?

i had pretty much the same flatscreen in black. got it out of a hospital dumpster while they were upgrading computer systems

Did you consider intalling Linux on it? It should perform better. Some years ago I had a Power Mac 9500 180/MP (if I remember correctly), that had 2xPPC and Linux was working pretty nicely on it.

@ActionRetro

4 ай бұрын

Ohhh that’s coming haha

@perinoid

4 ай бұрын

@@ActionRetro Oh, now I reached the end of the video, where it's mentioned 😀

@CodingItWrong

4 ай бұрын

With Sean, the answer to "did you consider installing Linux on it" is ALWAYS yes

I was hoping you were going to try to install BeOS within the Mac OS inside SheepShaver running on the BeOS that you installed within Mac OS.

Sweet spicy Spindler!

Any chance Haiku might run on this? Might be something worth testing in the future, though i remember reading that PowerPC support is still being worked on.

It's kinda absurd this thing existed, engineering that motherboard alone must have been a huge undertaking considering the market for the product

The only MP I can wholeheartedly support

Since Daystar has special software to support multiple processors, what does Apple do to support multiple processors? The PowerMac 9500 & 9600 have multiple processors? Is there any software that can use both of the processors of the 9500/9600?

my favorite thing about the external apparence of this tower is that somebody had an apple sticker on top of the daystar logo for a while it seems (since it yellowed around it lol)

Looking at the 4 CPU load meter it looks like the processors never run concurrently but rather one after the other. Using cache or seperate memory per CPU might give a boost anyway but still..

I used to sell and install Daystar nPower dual cpu upgrade into Apple PowerMacs and even a few UMAX systems What’s the last version of Classic Mac OS does the Quad Daystar system support with full MP support? What about PowerPC versions of MacOS X?

@Toonrick12

4 ай бұрын

I feel like Mac OSX is too new for even four 604's, even if you could get drivers and such to work with it. As for max system, I would guess 8.1 or 8.5.

I wished there were multiple CPU boards to the mc68000 and it's variants

I love the teapots lol

A draft???? Got to finish it then sir

- BeOS by the way is amazing. - Is there a Haiku PPC also? - One of the partitions ArchLinuxPOWER? (GOTTA GIT GUDEST AT ARCHIE) - one of the partitions booting OS X Tiger via the old XPostFacto disk images from within macOS 8.6 or 9. (I kinda swear by mSATA SSDs in IDE adapters thanks to their build in TRIM support and built in… nand cache… I think it’s called).I just don’t know how to make vids

great video i heard 'linux' cant wait

What about Linux? Maybe Alpine or antiX? They run new Linux 6+ kernel which can compile code for ppc and run it.

Would be great to see a future video where you try and get OS X 10.2 or something running on this, my understanding is that it can be easily run on a PPC 603/604 platform?

@TD_YT066

4 ай бұрын

Anyone ever find one of the NExT systems with two MC88110's ?

Is gcc available on BeOS? Maybe that works?

But what about MorphOS? It's an Amiga-compatable operating system that Michael MJD explored a few months back before it was open-source.

Does Haiku OS come in a PowerPC version? It's sorta BEGGING to be on this thing.

Holy smokes

cant wait to see you install win98 inside macos inside beos or something ridiculous like that :D

A Genesis Daystar.....My God!

An another IBM PPC POWERed!!

Quick question: How is it you said you were going to install 5.0.3 but when you did About BeOS it was 5.0.1?

Are those the fastest processors that the motherboard can support. And if they are can you overclock them. Maybe add a graphics card?

Dang quad-core in 1995 that's amazing

I vote for a BSD-type OS to be installed next on the BeHemoth

And next: Gentoo: the compiling nightmare

Can't wait to see Linux on it!

I can't remember but, with all the Be puns, did you pass on the Army song? "Be, al that you can Be"

I would love more Apple 1 content if you're up for it.

With support for up to 4 processors and 1.5 GBs of RAM, you'll never need to purchase another PC for as long as you live!

That was a drool worthy computer back in its day, just too spendy for my computer budget (I opted for an Apple IIe knockoff).

cool!

Nice

Missed opportunity to run that 3-D demo first with one processor, and then with the four processors. It’s otherwise difficult to get a sense of the performance.

@cyrilthefish

4 ай бұрын

I also wonder how it'd handle multiple copies of that demo running, if thats possible :)

So would the PowerPC version of Amiga os 4.1 run on this?

@MaddTheSane

4 ай бұрын

Under virtualization, probably.

SL1 was an amazing car, screw those seatbelts, Though!

hey so im trying to put linux on an g5 imac all in one but do i have to use a cd?

@manuelpop7324

4 ай бұрын

Yes pretty much, usb boot is ridculously hard on that thing

@kathrynradonich3982

4 ай бұрын

If you have a FireWire enclosure you can write the install image to the FireWire drive and boot from that, theoretically it should be possible to boot the installer over Ethernet but I've never done netboot with ppc macs outside of MacOS itself using a xserver G5 running server 10.3.9

@amirpourghoureiyan1637

4 ай бұрын

using dvd-r's or flashing isos to firewire drives via disk utility, it's what I always did with my powermac g4

I think you can run windows NT as well so maybe try a Mac os beos Linux windows NT quad boot

How can I get these cool retro PC(s)? They are expensive and to hard to find in EBay.

I had a quad Pentium Pro system at one point. Lift with the knees.

Happy and Healthy New Year to Action Retro and all the Action Retro viewers! Who's watching in 2024?

Maybe try to install the MAC OS X version that supports many processors.If I'm not mistaken, the server versions should be supported correctly. It would be nice to replace the video card with a higher-quality one in terms of speed (if possible on clones), for example, by flashing the PC version.