I actually appreciate all the bs your going through to feel this all out for us

A price aspect would be interesting like how much better you can make the bikes for the money difference from the husky or if the more expensive bikes are worth that extra

@tomatoknuckles

4 жыл бұрын

Great idea👍

@amacoutdoors2076

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah like maybe touch on how weak points on the bikes could be helped my aftermarket parts

@MX-CO

4 жыл бұрын

I agree , even with a set amount, Like $1000 or $2000 Or Just a couple things to each That people usually do Like Set up suspension Tires Bars Maybe pipe Maybe ignition . Even if it's only a 1 Rider shootout because you can only set suspension for 1 I'd be fine with it being ML.

Most honest perspective on the bikes on youtube.....and for the magazines for that matter. Really look forward to your evals. Thanks,, Tom

Looking forward to the 125’s if you review them

Thanks for doing another awesome shootout series for us! U are doing the lords work

This is the review I was waiting for!

Wow!! That's a lot of bread to Shell out for a shootout. I'm anxious to see the results and all the info you gather. This definitely will help people decide on what bike they want. Good job mate.

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

R G posted the Shootout video this morning

Love the Shootouts.. allowed me to make an easy decision on my 2020 YZ450 F

Thanks Michael, appreciate what you do. This is my go to source for this info.

Awesome video as usual... I want the honda when you are done please 😋👍👍👍hope you can get a few million views from this...you deserve it

Yo, Michael! I remember a year ago or so it was a trending issue that the market was slow and no one was buying bikes. But I'm not sure that is so much of an issue. I see comments in harscramble vids all the time of these 50y/o guys ecstatic and grateful of a KZread for encouraging them to race their first race. It would be cool to see one extra rider in your line up. A total novice with complete unbiased opinion other than "I like the green one the most" or "Barcia is my fav rider,,, so I want a yammie!!1!" Some guy that will roll every jump and stand it up half clutching through an entire corner. The results may be surprising. They may come out with a totally different opinion going in than they or we would expect. Not to mention those types of guys are the older generation able to pay for newer bikes unlike cheap young guys like me.

@oralenti

4 жыл бұрын

I'll be that slow guy LOL And I live close by him!

@iceman3254

4 жыл бұрын

Great idea!! That novice rider's opinion would be the most important for me.

I love my 2020 kx250! As a hobby racer the bike is enough for me and a lot of fun🤙 Cheers buddy 🤜🤛

@MX-CO

4 жыл бұрын

I Feel like I would Possibly like a 2019 or 2018 Kx better , because they say the 20 is a Top end motor now , does it feel that way to you ?

@aeror115

4 жыл бұрын

Tarz Thomas to be honest this bike is a huge step compared to my 13 Kx250F... I really like the new suspension set up and the "aggressiv" power delivery! Never tried a 19 model😅 Have a great week 🤙

@MX-CO

4 жыл бұрын

@@aeror115 thanks , from everything I read it seems like a 2013-2019 where very alike, thanks for the reply, have a great week to

Great teaser video to start the 250 shootout. I realize it’s unrelated somewhat but explaining to people how They could help for free would be good. From my (limited) understanding watching the video all the way through and also NOT skipping the commercials helps you monetize a little bit. Thanks for the content!!!

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Morgan thumbs ups and watching is helpful 🤘🏻😁

Omg if only I could have one I’d love get into riding rode when I was very young but never had chance take any where so now I want save and get my son into it I love watching yours videos and they inspire me thanks

Just for moto dads I would do a 85 65 shoot outs there. Huge market that would love a 85 shoot out including me

@kurtisthiele

4 жыл бұрын

And have 10 year olds testing them?

Damn dude, props on running your channel this way! I might try something similar (with one bike.. haha)

They're all great bikes, would be happy with the Kawi, Yam or Honda! :)

This is awesome I trust your shootout more than Mxa they are always biased thanks for doing the shootout

Do a super mini build, pit bike build and then a supercross 250 and possibly 450 builds. Then next year do a all out motocross bike unlimited money

I enjoy your independent view with your vids. Looking forward to seeing how this shootout pans out. Can I ask you to please reconsider the lighting. Less background lights and more lighting from the front would be good. Currently we see the background well. But you and the item you're talking about are just shadows. Thanks mate, hope you get millions of view. 😁

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

Lighting is definitely on the list of things to do 😂👍🏻

What blows my mind is how frequently guys are buying new bikes. Maybe I'm just old now but back in my day after we invented fire, we did ride too. Watching all these channels it's just amazing that these guys are buying new bikes yearly or bi-yearly...& I don't mean the Pro's, the amateurs. We kept our bikes for yrs & yrs, you don't even get to know her until 2 yrs in & she's had broken clutch/Rbrake lever ends for a year.

@justinsanchez6709

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Unless your racing professionally buying a new bike every year is unnecessary. But that's the generation we live in. If it's old just throw it away. I myself have a 2015 450 and plan on keeping it for years because it's still solid and still competitive. Not to mention I'm just a weekend warrior which most people are

Michael, Since you changed the tires from a 100 to a 110 I was wondering if you changed the rim size? I know most 250s come with a 1.85 rim and fitting a 110 on this size isn't ideal. I am curious if this was an issue?

Please record how you setup each bike for each rider and why you change clickers/any setting to help the riders. Thanks

Michael, you are crazy xD I bet you are the only private person buying all brand new bikes for a youtube video

Do you think the bikes have evolved too far past what most people need ? How many A riders are there in each state on average? The C class guys can go the same speed , same lap times on a 2010 , as they can on a 2020 , ( even with electric start) from what everyone says , so are they just evolving too far ?

Did you do the in depth videos?

I have my money on the husky for the casual rider and Ktm for serious rider.

@brianmorse8811

4 жыл бұрын

Husqvarna Dads bike KTM his 21 year old Sons bike.

Oooh you sold the 4fitties?! I was about to say, you got a $100,000 garage...

For an idea maybe you could include the 250 2t in the shootout with the 250f. As in aus they're in the same class and nobody seems to include them in the 250 shootouts just be interesting to see where they would place against 250f's as they both have their pro's and cons

@stevestiffler9120

4 жыл бұрын

Damn that’s a great idea. I’d love to see how a 250 smoker compares to the 250f’s

your Tests are a little to technical/detailed for me. I like the format you did for Vital last year - multiple rider rankings and a broad opinion from several different riders.

Husky come from AEO?

Does PC run a 120 on their SX bikes?

@tieNagle

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I saw Austin Forkners bike at a track here in Missouri and it had a 120 rear.

Yeah maybe a quick servicing cost break down . Eg oem oil filter cost . And piston / top end overhaul cost . And chain sliders and wear consumables .

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

mx118racer I actually started on a list a few months ago, I’ll finish that up...

Which Dunlop? 33? 53? Combo?

@benfairhall5331

4 жыл бұрын

FrankCRaymerDDS I think you’ll find a 33 set I think he mentioned he wasn’t a massive fan of the 52/53 series tire.

So let me get this correct. You personally bought all these bike? Or your company bought them?

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

What company? ha

@catmanflorida8545

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelLindsay well it must be nice to have a personal financial status to support buying 6 new bikes for testing. Some of us struggle just to buy 1 used one for fun riding.

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

@@catmanflorida8545 I just finance or put them on credit cards...then try to move them as quick as possible when I'm done. After 450 Shootout, I had about $150 left to my name. I do this because I love it.

@catmanflorida8545

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelLindsay Wow, Bro your doing good to have a credit rating good enough to do that. (mine sucks) Im a cat rescue shelter guy, have 20, not too many people want to buy a used cat LOL, keep it up--your doing great !!

@benfairhall5331

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Lindsay that right there is why I watch your videos you have genuine passion and the best opinion comes from someone that loves what they do not just saying what manufacturers want!

Good work! Build the wall 👍

How come no closed captions!? Im deaf. I need closed captions. Grrrr

Why not leave them completely factory? Leaving the tires factory would only be fair.

@tieNagle

4 жыл бұрын

True...!

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

After break in periods I needed to replace all the tires to be fair and some of the tires on these bikes are discontinued from an aftermarket standpoint. You can’t buy Dunlop MX3S tires anymore.

@steelstiffy85

4 жыл бұрын

Make's sense. Thanks for the clarification. Love your content and appreciate your privateering

Honda or husky 🤘

Is Jeff walker going to be a test rider

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

Cameron Moore sadly, no. Jeff’s school schedule and Straight Rhythm made it too tight to pull it off. I tried to find him red eye flights that would work even, but to no avail 😅 On the bright side, we’ve got some super cool news coming up for him related to Supercross 🤭 something I’ve been working on for a few months now...

@stevestiffler9120

4 жыл бұрын

Is it true your having a west coast team ML? I hope ol Walker can ride SX. Surprised he got another 450, figured he’d be 250 West coast

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

Lonnie McDonald 🤭🤭🤭

@cameronmoore5858

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Lindsay I’m more than excited for this news than

💚💚💚💚💚 HORSEPOWER KING

Yewww

how the hell do you afford to do this?? this is crazy, so this is what you have to do in order to do this test? it is ridiculous

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

Very creative financing...and scary credit card bills...HA!

@ataiken8406

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelLindsay well i wish you the best! doing a great job!

since they are your bikes, you should take the oppertunity to focus on content creation rather than shopping advice. Think Top Gear for dirtbikes.. line them all up in a drag race and do stupid tests that dont really mean anything, but would be entertaining and interesting to watch.

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

superjohn349 I absolutely love Top Gear, but that’s not me from a presenting standpoint 😂

How come we never see anyone do a "small budget test" where you invest say $5-1500" retail cost of upgrades. Then test? With you actually buying them I think it'd be an advantage to make you different.

They won't just loan you bikes?

@TooKlingy

4 жыл бұрын

They will. But then he has to wait till the company's will. And then maybe the bike isn't actually show room quality? Maybe upgraded?

@bryanlettow4389

4 жыл бұрын

@@TooKlingy I was thinking from the dealer? Maybe they can't because of resale? I'm not familiar with how this is regularly done but I'd figure there's got to be a cheaper way.

@TooKlingy

4 жыл бұрын

I'd believe the dealers are helping him resell them on their floor to help.

KX & CR

Can I get a bike bro 😂😭

Are you a milionare lol can you give me the ktm please whaaa lol keep up the good content 😃🥳🥳🥳

Lindsay is stretching the truth a bit here. He didn't actually pay for these bikes out of his own pocket. There was a deal that went with the acquisition of the bikes that favored Lindsay.

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Maffhes the way I procure the bikes is helpful but I lose a good chunk of cash by doing these. By the time I was said and done with 450 Shootout and the bikes were sold...I spent around $8,000-9,000 to do the test. I have only rough totaled it at this point as there’s still another bike to sell.

So no actual long term feed back on the 450s , I was hoping to see some real reviews of the bikes with some hours on them ... so buy selling all the 450s w little hours and just a few diff rider reviews it’s pretty much the same shootout other then your and individual doing it .

@MichaelLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

JonesZ hopefully next year I can do something different but I CAN’T afford to do that as of now. I can carry loans against bikes for a month and off them all but not longer then that. Secondly, it would be very difficult to ride them all enough by myself to get high enough hours to be that effective. I could do it with with one or two bikes over the course of six months, but not all six. I have other jobs to do to pay my bills, this channel doesn’t cover that all yet. My pitch of doing these Shootouts was privately acquiring the bikes as all other Shootout bikes are provided by an OEM. I wanted to eliminate any doubt over who pays the most as money, who’s been fiddling with the bikes, etc.

we want to see two strokes😂

@bryanlettow4389

4 жыл бұрын

I do

My couch picks #1 blue #2orange #3 white 4# green 5#red #6 yellow

Sell a bike to me when you're done. I'd be happy with the worst bike in the shootout.