How To PUNISH Early Queen Attacks
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Thanks, I’m new to chess and I never know what to do against those early queen attacks, so this helped me a lot.
@-_deploy_-
Жыл бұрын
@BradynLee09 it is not stupid if you know exactly what you are doing and have infinite backup plans
@shschesschamp
Жыл бұрын
@BradynLee09 Its a good opening for bullet chess.
@rifwann
Жыл бұрын
1k and yeah, this early queen alays caught me.
@frogz608
Жыл бұрын
@@-_deploy_- there's a reason kasparov said that late queen activation is better, a decent player can defend perfectly
@-_deploy_-
Жыл бұрын
@@frogz608 whatever kasparov says
After watch this video, It is time to beat my friend who play scholar's mate.
@adriangardon873
Жыл бұрын
This helped me so much
@joinfortherapy6470
Жыл бұрын
Isn't it called wayward Queen opening
@Alter-Ego545
Жыл бұрын
@@joinfortherapy6470 That’s the move QH5 by itself, scholar’s mate is a continuation from the queen move. It’s this really basic mate in 4 moves for white but it’s quite easy to avoid even for beginners
@gilbertsambajon3074
Жыл бұрын
Hahahah yes I love how excited you are when trying new things or trick just like me
@lalegende2746
Жыл бұрын
I can’t even begin to tell you how many times people tried the Scholar’s mate on me today. Punished them every single time
I’m a complete beginner who began playing a couple days ago. I didn’t expect myself to need to study how to play chess for hours on end 😂
@mahmed2401
Жыл бұрын
I'm also beginner wanna play with me?
@Pierrace
Жыл бұрын
I started 3 days ago I’m definitely getting better
@michaeltagor4238
Жыл бұрын
Yup, that's the beauty of chess, it's a simple game but if you want to REALLY play all of a sudden you have years of learning in front of you, good luck and have fun!
@Beat_Vibes_
Жыл бұрын
@@Pierraceme too
@Viper_0930
Жыл бұрын
Addicting isn't it?
The Wayward Queen attack seems like a great opening, until you're no longer 400 rated.
@paidopedro1600
Жыл бұрын
I'm 400 and thought the queen attack was good lol
@38KeviN91
Жыл бұрын
Yeah once you hit +425-450 it’s over played and easily countered
@shineed9747
Жыл бұрын
Retarded people can play better than 400 rated players
@ARCbirdman
Жыл бұрын
Bro. I'm 1100 and it still regularly works 💀
@xmathmanx
Жыл бұрын
@@ARCbirdmanthis is the actual case, why must nerds exaggerate these things?
I love when an opponent uses wayward queen. I get a fast development and they end up losing their queen with no development. Usually ends in a rage quit
@michalrehacek3462
7 ай бұрын
I reached 2000 on lichess using wayward queen attack... don't underestimate the opening too much.
@idk-zi3gw
7 ай бұрын
@@michalrehacek3462wow lichess players probably play like 100 rated players
@Poatanmafia
7 ай бұрын
@@michalrehacek3462on lichess of course
The wayward queen, aka the freelo gambit. I call it that because if it succeeds it's basically an instant win. But if it fails then it's basically an instant loss
@Saul_Goodman497
Жыл бұрын
It's not an instant loss
@lucintiasangma1079
Жыл бұрын
@@Saul_Goodman497 most people know how to tackle the scholars mate.. and some people do not know what to do after the scholars mate, so it's a loss to the opponent who used the scholars mate trap..
@danneltheflannel
Жыл бұрын
It's decent for blitz or bullet
@will2brown50
Жыл бұрын
@@danneltheflannel no it definitely is not.
@satgurs
Жыл бұрын
@@danneltheflannel What's your rating?
one thing to note about early queen attacks are its position and your pieces position. yeah the queen looks scary, but always remember the queen cant mate by itself. it always needs at least one piece to deliver a mate. you gotta check all the squares on which the queen can attack you and defend properly. while you're driving the queen away (because enemy is looking for potential mate) you found yourself developing pieces more and they just keep on moving the same piece again and again achieving nothing.
@lupsik1
Жыл бұрын
Technically it can mate alone, where even a rook couldnt. I said „technically” to underline that it doesnt matter, and you wrote everything perfectly and not to be snarky.
@shanginadildo
Жыл бұрын
@@lupsik1 a rook can also mate in its own
@lupsik1
Жыл бұрын
@@shanginadildo I meant that it can mate where a rook cant. Lika a king behind a single pawn.
@Vykk
Жыл бұрын
the one piece is real
@s.s7337
Жыл бұрын
@@lupsik1 A bishop and a knight can mate on their own too given the right circumstances.
The best piece of advice I got when I was new was just “look at every piece the queen attacks”. Incredibly obvious in theory, but just taking an extra second to be sure I’m not moving a key defender away from a piece meant queen attacks were suddenly easy to beat instead of terrifying
On concept #3, you missed the best move, which was also the topic of your video from two days ago. Move the knight attacking the queen results in a discovered check and the knight is blocking the queen instead of checking with the bishop.
@matthewm5066
Жыл бұрын
They can block with the queen though
@liamlynch9460
Жыл бұрын
The queen can just come back and block the check, so there is no threat on their queen though
@b-reyer8252
Жыл бұрын
@@Mileschad Yeah but you're down 2 pawns and 99% of the time it isn't a good idea to trade queens when you have a more active and attacking position
@Chris-87
Жыл бұрын
I like how people think they know more than masters lol. That's not a great move because white plays Qd2 and you lose a lot of your attack. Bg4 is absolutely brutal. If Ke1, black plays Nxc2++ (mate). If Kd2, then black plays Nf5+, with the discovery now, white can't block with the queen. If white blocks the check with f3, Nf3, Ne2, or Bd2, then black captures with the knight and has a discovered attack with the queen, all of which are way more devastating
@thomasnewton2935
Жыл бұрын
Move the knight in front of the white bishops pawn on the left side. You take a pawn and when he blocks with the queen, you take it with queen for checkmate.
As someone who almost always does early queen attacks, this was a very insightful video, and perhaps I may try some other strategies.
@ileej8224
Жыл бұрын
It only works against 500 or less elo players, people play counter play after that.
@aarusharya5658
11 ай бұрын
I really think you should stop playing early queen attacks. Above 500-800 elo, you will start losing almost every game.
7:01 the best move here is to bring the knight to f5 and that would be a discovered attack to king while at the same time queen would be under attack of that knight we just moved
@ShazanKhan1
Жыл бұрын
i saw the same
@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187
Жыл бұрын
They just block with the queen
@pogcow4178
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of the same thing but knight b3 would be a better move because you would win a free rook
@v_gigaharz
Жыл бұрын
@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187 yeah right
@marquis19
Жыл бұрын
@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187 yes, but after that you need to attach the pond in the centre with your second knife and after that move you would definitely take opponent’s queen
7:03 you can play knight f5 taking/trading the opponents queen, taking assuming they move the king in check and trading if they block the check with the queen
@Cupix_
5 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same
Your channel is so awesome. I sometimes take a break from chess because I can’t find that many people to play with. Every time I get back into it I come back to your channel. Love the way you approach things. 🔥🔥🔥
At 7:02, I think Nf5+ is also a good move. White's king is in a discovered check, and their queen is under attack as well
@Anthony_LaVigna
11 ай бұрын
then theyd play Qd2, then youd have to move your knight out of the way of the attack from the pawn on e4, Nd4 gives up the knight, Nd6 causes a fork on the knights from the pawn, and anything else opens black up to a potential queen trade that prevents castling
@quasiZote
11 ай бұрын
@@Anthony_LaVigna what about Nxe4 and after Qxd8+ simply Bxd8. the knight then threatens a fork on f2 resulting in your opponent Ke1. you're still able to longcastle and have more pieces developped. 1 pawn down at the cost of a better position. edit: to be clear; 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6 3. Qxe5+ Be7 4. d3 Nc6 5. Qg3 Nd4 6. Qxg7 Rg8 7. Qh6 d5 8. Kd1 dxe4 9. dxe4 Nf5+ 10. Qd2 Nxe4 11. Qxd8+ Bxd8 12. Ke1
@NoticeDesign
9 ай бұрын
They just move queen D2 and you've got a queen exchange. I like B3 better for the discovered check and you get the rook.
At 7:07, better move would have been Nf4 as there is discovered check and you win queen
@Outcastsage9033
Жыл бұрын
They can play Qd2 which blocks check and offers a trade of queens
So refreshing to see someone get right to the damn point and outline the strategy from the jump.
4:34 Also in this situation, there is a fork with knight. (Knight X C2, that move forks Queen and Rook same time. It forces the King to move, because they can't eat the knight in any way, this way you both get a free queen and your opponent loses the right to castling.)
@kzkaa.
11 ай бұрын
If your king isn't in check, then this would be a nice tactic.
@dagmawitsegaye5971
10 ай бұрын
i was thinking that myself. that would've been spectacular.
@dagmawitsegaye5971
10 ай бұрын
it wasn't though.
@viytalic9049
9 ай бұрын
Even if you was in check, you'd eat the queen and be gobbled up by a pawn before you could even get the rook. I'm confused on why they'd have to move the king if the knight was at C2 as it can't reach E1
@meltedspaceogd123
7 ай бұрын
It's called capture or take, not "eat"
Learning to deal with early queen attacks from low level players really allowed me to flourish in the game. Your video was a crucial part of my learning to combat them and I wanted to credit and thank you.
A few minutes after watching I played against someone who did the same queen opening as shown in the video. I applied what I learned and got a checkmate in 13 moves!
@clutchplays9587
Жыл бұрын
U have to defend also not just develop
@antienjoys
Жыл бұрын
congrats :)
Never thought guides to beating Nelson would get this complicated
@Ch-thalassa
11 ай бұрын
lmao
This helped me so much. Just played a game where this exact thing happened. I counter attacked his Queen to where he eventually lined up the Queen behind the bishop on the white diagonal, and I made the knight move you mentioned sacrificing the pawn. He took the pawn putting my king in check, I moved the Queen up to get out of check, he realized his Queen was under attack so he moved it to the dark square, thus hanging the bishop so I was able to capture it with my king.
That's absolutely mindblowing. *Nelson* teach us how to avoid early *Queen attacks!*
@eyecontrol4900
Жыл бұрын
i used to get screwed so much was i was a noob, by nelson. usually he would checkmate in 5-6 turns. At least now, i'm aware of what to do when he sends out queen on turn2
@zxph
Жыл бұрын
Why does this feel so much like a bot comment lmao
@silvers_RL
Жыл бұрын
@@zxph ong
@theinternetofficer6594
Жыл бұрын
And he sacrificed... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
@kot3ika788
Жыл бұрын
@@theinternetofficer6594 what was incorrect? That's my fourth language :D
I love shogi,Jananese chess,thus I am very interested in chess,too.Thank you for your clear explanation.
Hello , i always wanted to play agressivly with the queen but now , i see that it’s not really that aggressive, thank you for your video
@Ahmetburakacil
Жыл бұрын
Actually it can mate by itself
@zondaken
Жыл бұрын
@@Ahmetburakacil huh?
@Ahmetburakacil
Жыл бұрын
@@zondaken i commented on thewrong comment lol
@aarusharya5658
11 ай бұрын
Early queen attacks are a bad way to play chess.
Really like these conceptual videos! Very instructive as always, thanks!
On concept 2, when you move your knight to d4 to attack the queen, you can fork afterwards the king and rook
I just lost earlier to this type of early queen attack, thank you for making me learn much faster on what I have to do, ill continue watching your channel so I would become a better player
Subscribed man! You're an amazing educator!
I always love it when I see early queen attacks. I am usually between 1300 and 1400, so it is quite rare. But when I do get it, I can usually get a decent position. Opponents in my range usually will know the common counters, including getting your knight to d4. Usually they will position either a pawn or knight to defend that square.
I’ve watched this video 5 times to counter my sons from their early queen attacks, needless to say, I’m winning 😂 thanks bro!
Thanks! I'm intermediate but I've always particularly struggled defending against early Queen attacks. This'll help!
@blocplayz8002
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRomanianWolf 1000-1500
7:00 u could also do nf6 if they take pawn e4
I often encounter this early opening as a 900 player.. it's so annoying that they waste multiple moves this tactic is excellent don't mind them just keep developing
This video and the spreadsheet is like the best thing ever. I've been wanting to learn chess for over a decade and have been entirely overwhelmed by dates and tactics they id never be able to actually apply and I never get anywhere.
7:02 knight to f5 is a nice move, checking the king and attacking the queen at the same time.
@robertharding2654
4 ай бұрын
The black queen can retreat to d2 to block the check
Thank you for another great lesson Nelson
Nelson, your videos are so damn good. Concise, clear & extremely helpful. Best chess channel in my opinion, by far. Keep up the great work! 🙏🏻👍🏻
@ianp5673
Жыл бұрын
agreed
@jeffsyun6159
Жыл бұрын
Nelson is helping me to beat that annoying chess bot Nelson
Nelson, you do a nice job of keeping the narrative simple and easy to follow. Avoiding too many parenthetical expressions and tangents that some of the experts have in their tutorials. Well done.
@ChessVibesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, Brad!
Thanks for the Guide man!
Thanks for the info, I’m at 450 elo and I like using the wayward queen to put pressure on my opponent and catch them off guard. I’m at a level where it works half the time and now I know how to recognize when it’s not working and recover before it’s too late.
@oxifly276
7 ай бұрын
Goofy ahh
Thank you nelson! Ever since I've started playing chess I have gotten much better watching your videos from getting an estimated elo of 800 to an estimated elo of 1550! (even though my rating is 1039)
Super! Danke! Very helpful!
during the tactic you're discussing around ~7:30 where we plan on trading our bishop for a fork on the king and rook, if white delays recapturing the bishop, and instead plays Qe5+ they can fork the knights and completely ruin black's plan to take the rook.
Kight to c6 is actually one of the best move here
@papalegba6796
Жыл бұрын
Agree.
I got a game with the opponent pre-moving scholar's mate... Lost bishop, and queen and resigned lol
@jonathancauley5345
Жыл бұрын
Happened to me yesterday, my player thought he was going get a win mate - nope 😆 try turning the tables 😂
This video helped me A LOT when i first started playing. I stopped and I recently started back and now I'm facing the same problem watching the same video.
I am so happy to learn this skill and beat the neeko bot. Thank you so much 👍🏻
After falling for this fork and unfortunate mate many times, I now have learned how to defend and potentially win. It has to been over 20 loses on the wayward attack/scholars mate. Quite frankly, some of loses were from the bot 😂
@jamesr1021
Жыл бұрын
First couple times I got burned by Nelson (the bot) I figured out some strategies. I guess that bot learns somehow and hasn't gone to that quick "Queen Out" strategy as much. I love playing the bots in a ladder system (play until I beat one then go to Next Bot OR have to beat them three straight times before I go on). Playing bots allows me to relax a little more and take my time learning tactics.
@jonathancauley5345
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesr1021 I agree man
I always try scholars mate but now i see why i should try it more scarcely
Glad I found this video. I'm practicing chess and Martin always does this
I saw a video of other guy but this one is better by far far far. You rock man thx
7:15 you can take white queen by attacking it with the knight
@Outcastsage9033
Жыл бұрын
Queen D2
@alberthavidslumowa5656
Жыл бұрын
@@Outcastsage9033 aight thanks i was thinking knight move but you are right
@samsunguser3148
Жыл бұрын
it was the opposite, the moves were being reversed
whats also cool with the position at 4:15 is that you can gork their king-rook if they dont pay attention and stip defending c2
@adolu.
Жыл бұрын
at 4:33 he could made it at c2 with a check and then taking the queen
To counter scholar mate I always start with queen pawn move 1, then knight to c6, and then knight to e5, it will fork queen and bishop. If they make a move like D4 to take your knight out I use knight to h3 instead as it covers the checkmate square and is protected by the g2 peon
The best youtube channel out there to learn chess. Thanks man.
Hi Nelson sir. Can you please advice. I'm 2000+ on puzzles but on games I'm around 1000 to 1200 and I lose by silly blunders and unable to spot tactics for opponents and me which I can in puzzles
Near the end of concept 3 there was a possible discovered check + fork on the queen
@TkrzTT
Жыл бұрын
Yh I saw that too
@nyquist_control
Жыл бұрын
Not really, they just being the queen back to d2
@TkrzTT
Жыл бұрын
@@nyquist_control didn’t see that tbf
I just recently got into chess and I love your channel dude! It’s my favorite on KZread!
Chess Vibes is full of "good vibrations." It teaches basic rules of chess that the national grandmasters and international grandmasters have taught of old.
I’ve recently lost the motivation to omprova at chess since i keep getting impatient and making dummy mistakes. This video gave me a new way to think and motivation to keep improving thanks a lot man your actually 1 of the most entertaining and usefull chess channels like Gotham chess
Lol. 5:40. Someone just the day before today tried going at me with the queen. I played the first 3 moves exactly how chess vibes did by accident. Eventually down the line I accidentally trapped his queen and he had to sacrifice. I could tell it irritated him.
Thanks for this. I'm a beginner and this is helpful
sensational hints that u gave in this vid, thx so much!
Have been a victim of this kind of attack when I was a kid, have also been a perpetrator of this when I am up against a newbie, but never knew the danger or the exploit behind it (since the pros don't do that kind of opening). Thank you for this.
7:00 dknight to f5 is the best move where u will be winning the queen
@Basisreallycool
Жыл бұрын
Then they block with Queen. If you take, then they take back with pawn which defends their centre pawn
@durooham2535
Жыл бұрын
@@Basisreallycool you mean take back with knight right ?
Thank you so much! This will help me a lot.
I watched this video, queued up a game, got the queen brought out on me early, and ended the game with 5 queens. Thank you so much
After Bxa3, white can play Qe4* check forking the king and knight so you really can't get the rook unless the players are low elos. But good video as always.
@RobokiYT
Жыл бұрын
At 6:10 , you probably mean Qe4 as Qd4 is impossible
@mangles1044
Жыл бұрын
@@RobokiYT thanks
Perfect timing with this recommendation. Just got into chess recently & yesterday someone absolutely merked me with that early queen.
In your example at 4:30, you could also move the knight to C2 and do a threeway fork with check and take their queen. Good move or no?
@smippycis6285
Жыл бұрын
well yes, but they put you in check, so the check is needed to be cleared first, but if after the capture the queen hasn't moved or moved to a spot not defending C2, ez rook.
At 2:30 you can also move the Knight to d4 which threatens the queen and you can also fork the rook and the king on the next move
I noticed at 7:01 that you could move the knight to c3 discovered check on whites king and winning that queen on next move, unless well he/she blocks check with the queen, but it's like a hope attack 🤷🏽♂️
I've just got into 4 player chess, [~1500] I'd love to see some opening strats for that. I push my queen early to set up a promotion stand off in the middle of the board.
4:20 royal fork miss
@matt_griggs_the_goat7722
11 ай бұрын
Where
@a3nder
11 ай бұрын
@Flame at 4:20 bro, watch a few secs then c7
@matt_griggs_the_goat7722
11 ай бұрын
Thanks
Thank you for great advices
I like your analysis and options for a winning position. Thank you. How would a computer on white side play this game?
7.03 Nf5 + = free queen
@jkill0993
Жыл бұрын
queen can block the check and force a queen trade
7:01 I would recommend doing knight f6 allowing for a discovered check on king and an attack on the queen by the knight. Their best move is to block the attack with their queen but I’m sure there is some crazy checkmate sequence out their for this position lol
@aradragoon1
Жыл бұрын
Literally came to comments to say that lol (Also knight F5 right?) It probably isn't a GM level move but I can see a few lines that while it would trade queens it essentially has all of blacks pieces developed while white hasn't developed anything.
Very good video, taught me a lot thank you so much
I downloaded the tier list in excel, thank you, it's super useful!
Nice tip for that irritating queen move, mostly it's solution is based on the principles of *Luna's defense* 1. Let the enemy bleed until they exhaust his will to fight more. 2. If they have the numbers, show him brains to face on 3. Let the warfare last slower until you're forces are ready in position
@simonjosefsson
Жыл бұрын
Your* ;)
7:01 you missed a really good move that wins the queen nf5+
@rongarretson3016
Жыл бұрын
Discovered attacks like that are good to seek out but with that move the queen could retreat to d2 covering the check and negating the threat of the knight capturing it
excellently explained. You are a fantastic teacher.
Nelson laughing in the corner after taking all of my pieces💀
7:14 The best move would actually be K(knight)dF5, because the queen would be giving a check to the queen, and the knight also attacks white’s queen at the same time, basically winning a queen
@aleksworld547
Жыл бұрын
Nope. The queen blocks the check and it basically forces a queen trade, if you wish.
@devyishere1
Жыл бұрын
@@aleksworld547 i did not notice that at all
@hueabano7067
Жыл бұрын
@@devyishere1 try knight f3
@hueabano7067
Жыл бұрын
Wait no it has the same problem bishop blocks and takes from queen and knight
Decades ago, during my college years, I played a game of chess with a fellow student, a girl who'd never fail to let a moment pass within which she would remind anyone nearby how smart she was. So, I started the game. I brought my queen out early, captured an unprotected pawn, but managed to get it hung-up on B7. I resisted thoughts that I had blundered and managed to develop a really strong middle attack with my other pieces directed at her un-castled king. Obsessed with freeing my queen, I suddenly realized the only safe move I had for it was to E7: checkmate. Completely unplanned. To the explosion of laughter from those watching, I realized instead of a win it was an escape (which I said to her), and I never wanted to play her again.
@NioJPlays
Жыл бұрын
You should've went along with it lol
Thanks! It was very helpful
What I typically do is pawn d6 after the queen comes out, then queen E7 in front of the king when the bishop comes out, then pretty much no matter what knight F6 will be available to drive out the queen, and much of the board is occupied with the queen and bishops long diagonals
I am a beginner now for over 5 decades. Thanks so much!!!! Watching from the Philippines.
Thanks for this man!
The spreadsheet looks awesome, I’ll definitely check that out
Hi Nelson I only subscribed today to your channel and am learning alot thanks! Could you please do a video of a basic guideline on when to accept a queen trade and when to decline a queen trade?
Thanks for the video and tips!Early queen attacks is super annoying so this really helped !
@ChessVibesOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
Thanks just learning chess, really helpful
7:03 you can play Nf6! It puts a discovered check on their king while attacking the queen at the same time
@biggeo_ru
11 ай бұрын
F5
For most beginner principles "avoid X", most accurate to say "Unless you're Magnus, avoid X."
I once fell for the Wayward Queen attack and answered with pawn G6, but then turned it around and boxed the Queen in and made it impossible for her to escape. All attempts to weaken the box somehow only ended in the opponent losing several pieces and when there was no escape anymore, he just gave up lol.
Thanks brother, u really helped me win the game
I like the fact getting tempo as opponent queens playing around
Thankyou so much!