How to play like Peter Hook of Joy Division / New Order - Bass Habits - Ep 22
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@dreampopwavestudiob7282
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I was one of those people for the request
@mikebehrend3152
3 жыл бұрын
How about how to sound like Pete Way of UFO
@twillymantheoneandonly5587
3 жыл бұрын
U want to play like Peter Hook, joy divion....play against the guitar. Nobody could get away with it but hook. Necessity plus purposefully accidental equals the organic hook style.
@deanaf
3 жыл бұрын
When bands learn to play, they start to suck.
@tigercap100
3 жыл бұрын
Great video but one correction. When Joy Division guys saw Sex Pistols in 1976, Glen Matlock played bass. And he was pretty good.
YES YEEEEESSSSS Peter Hook is such a unique bassist in that he flies in the face of what a bass typically "should" do. I love bassists who break the rules in that sort of way.
Peter Hook isn't a bassist, he's one of the few LEAD bassist aha. Excellent review, thanks for analysing the legend behind the JD sound !
@babel232
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I always Said he's a terrible bass player, But he's probably the best Lead Bass who ever walked a stage lol, He doesn't play like a bassist, He Plays His Bass like a Guitar.
@thelonelyheadlessbassist9247
3 жыл бұрын
@@babel232 yeah ! plus the fact he plays way too loud with too much chorus. He kept punk and rock alive as much as he could in New Order !
@bassmuso
3 жыл бұрын
"LEAD" bassist - lmao... to be a lead anything you must know scales, and play them.... he definately does not know any scales.... "LEAD" bassist ... hahahahahahahaha....
@killingmachine10
2 жыл бұрын
@@bassmuso go tell that to him then. I bet he’s made more money in a week than you ever will. Bell end
@killingmachine10
2 жыл бұрын
@@bassmuso also, Noel Gallagher doesn’t know any scales, and is one of the most famous rhythm and LEAD guitarists ever
Hooky's riffs are the greatest parts of best Joy Division and New Order songs. Simplicity, beauty and genius.
@MarcioSilva-ssiillvvaa
3 ай бұрын
That just sums it up.
Agree with the comment about his limited technical abilities, and Hook would admit that too. He almost is like a non-musician that picked the bass and made it his own. Even with non-technical abilities, he was able to craft a unique style sound. There are a lot of "better" bass players who can't say that.
@dirkpehrke9909
3 жыл бұрын
Agree, but I sometimes think it is kind of a crime against music that a guy with this talent didn’t spent just a few hours a week for a year or so to learn a bit about music and playing techniques. Not to conform to the mainstream bass playing, but to broaden his language. He is a bit stuck.
@deaddoll1361
3 жыл бұрын
@@dirkpehrke9909 Not only did he craft his own unique style, being in Joy Division and New Order gave him a career that most musicians could only dream of. If you're going to criticise, I hope you've done better than he has in music.
@iggypopisgod9
3 жыл бұрын
@@dirkpehrke9909 i would rather be innovative and relevant than some nerd who practices scales all day and "dreams" of being in a band. Hook dosesnt need advice . He would tell u 2 FU anyways
@yunarukami14
3 жыл бұрын
@@iggypopisgod9 Hello, fellow Iggy Pop fan
@YTPartyTonight
3 жыл бұрын
You need only play one note on a bass guitar--and really any instrument, for that matter--in a song as long as it grooves. Victor Wooten has preached that all day long since like forever.
The New Order song Perfect Kiss is the best example of his bass playing. He plays it like it's a 6 string lead guitar. His Joy Division bass work is more iconic.
i was literally just listening to joy division thank you man
Peter Hook has always been one of my favorite bassists!
Peter Hook: Master ✅
Peter Hook and Lemmy are probably the two bassists to make the bass sound completely different.
@SetFire2TheNightSky
3 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion but, if you really think that? You might want to expand your musical database/library.
@PapaRikkiBalls
3 жыл бұрын
@@SetFire2TheNightSky true
@MrHoefnix
3 жыл бұрын
The overall sound of Chris Squire was unique as well.
@bassmuso
3 жыл бұрын
"make the bass sound completely different" that is because both of them have absolutely no technique at all..... I have seen Lemy playing live with a Rock-a-billy band... but they had to have another bassist to do the walking bass... Lemy was unable to do it... fuck even I can jam Rock-a-billy bass...
@PapaRikkiBalls
3 жыл бұрын
@@bassmuso I've never heard of you before hahaha
You should do one of these on Mike Starr
@geneoffwood4650
3 жыл бұрын
Killer player, his isolated track for man in the box is probably my favourite tone ever
@tommybollschweiler9508
3 жыл бұрын
Mike Inez while you’re at it
@geneoffwood4650
3 жыл бұрын
@@tommybollschweiler9508 both are equally as good and bring their own unique style
I love the Joy Division baselines. So melodic
@hobbymanx9200
Жыл бұрын
Very catchy
I’ve always thought/said that Hook plays the Bass like a lead instrument rather than a backing or supporting one. It’s very up-front and present as opposed to just laying down a simple bass line.
My favorite musician! And thank you for adding Procession to the list of his basslines. One of my favorite New Order songs. And I loved those photos of Hooky "enjoying" Benard's autobiography.
It is always a pleasure to watch your channel. Between tutorials and biographies, my bass and I are grateful to you!
Great video but one correction. When Joy Division guys saw Sex Pistols in 1976, Glen Matlock played bass. And he was pretty good.
@jonathangrayston7872
3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say, ha. Also check out Rich Kids, Matlock’s post-Pistols band with a pre-Ultravox Midge Ure, if you’ve not heard their one album. Pretty great.
@alexanderwilliams3955
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely Matlock rather than Vicious who influenced Hooky. I'd also suggest JJ Burnel- I think he copied his rig to begin with
@yunarukami14
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderwilliams3955 I remember seeing an interview where Hook corrects the interviewer that the one who inspired him is Matlock not Vicious
@dermot51
3 жыл бұрын
Glen wrote most of the tunes for the group and was an accomplished player
Textbook example of how being a great musician has little to do with being a virtuoso player. "Love will tear us apart" is a simple, yet absolutely brilliant bassline.
Put simply, Hook started out seeking a 6 or 8 string bass guitar and ended up essentially needing only 2 strings. One note played to groove is all that's needed.
Alex James, Paul Simonon, and Andy Rourke would all be great videos
@jadecar86
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Alex James! One of my favorites!
@nuclearspacerhino
3 жыл бұрын
Andy Rourke is a genius
@yunarukami14
3 жыл бұрын
Paul Simonon is badass
@novadhd
2 жыл бұрын
I think he has a Rourke video
The bass player for the Sex Pistols that Hooky saw back in Manchester was Glen Matlock. Sid came much later.
Hook certainly had an impact on future bands. One of my all time favorites, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, had two bass players. Alex Griffin as lead bass was certainly inspired by Hook as his bright melodies are a signature sound for the band.
Nicely done. Peter Hook is definitely in my top 3 favorites because he is so unusual and unique.
@alanwilder1549
Жыл бұрын
Is Simon Gallup one of the other two?
Peter Hook, and Jean Jacques-Burnel, have always been my two favourite bassists - both made the bass the 'lead' instrument, rather than just following, note-for-note, the chords played by the guitarist. Both bassists also had great stage 'presence' - Hooky with his low-slung bass so that he often had to bend forward to play it, and JJ Burnel prowling menacingly around the stage with his trademark black Doc Martens, and randomly doing karate-kicks without missing a note.
Really interesting video! I would love a video about Steve Severin, i love his bass style!
Awesome, thanks dude, your videos are always a pleasure to watch
Great wideo man. These really make me think about my own playing and how to develop a style.
The one I've awaited since I've been watching this series
The video I've been waiting for
One of my favorite bassists from one of my favorite bands. Thanks for sharing.
One of my favourite bass players and an inspiration for me to start playing.
Love it. Great as usual
Hooks a legend Great character
*Hahahaha, OMG. I always thought the Blue Monday bit reminded me off the classic Western film !!!*
At some point in the video he says that "he used effects chorus and delay which was very common at the time" when it was them - joy Division that popularised those effect in the kinda pop/goth/post punk/ambient scene. Hookie had many copy cats, like Gallup from cure, which he has covered in a previous vid.
@yunarukami14
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, what? Gallup is a copy cat?
Please do a video on Mark Sandman from Morphine
@jacksstreet2975
3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see that
@255chainsaw
3 жыл бұрын
That would be a fantastic video.
Ciao Paul, come sempre: bello! Si impara tanto e i video sono godibili. E poi tutti questi bassisti plettranti, con tutti questi segreti di tecnica, suono, strumentazione... Alla faccia di quelli che dicono che il plettro è per chi non sa suonare!
Great video! Although you forgot to mention the Yamaha BB1200s which has been Hooky's primary 4 string bass since Love Will Tear Us Apart.
@Uroste
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and the bb734. And I have no damn clue why hook isn't in the yamaha artist page but his son is?
@ZodiacEntertainment2
3 жыл бұрын
@@Uroste Hook even has a signature Yamaha bass. Seems like Yahama needs to get on it.
@Pointblankmos
3 жыл бұрын
@@Uroste Hooky doesn't use a 734. His son does. He's even got a story of being given one for free, asked to review it, and responding with "you shouldn't have stopped making the old one".
@uncletoodles8118
2 жыл бұрын
Nice profile pic. I got a factory records pin with that logo. A great local Chicago band called Charles Bronson stole that logo for shirts in the 90s too. Iconic.
I love noodling around with Hooks' style, it's relaxing and exciting at the same time!!!
We need a video about Mike Mills of R.E.M. Hes super underrated!
@DansBLACKFLAG
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dlawlis
3 жыл бұрын
I hear a lot of Hook influence in Mike's playing.
I love pedal tones on bass. I use it a lot.
Peter is in the same category of bass playing as Adam Clayton (U2) in that they play what is necessary for the song and not overplay. Technically both are simple, yet effectively creating memorable riffs that highlight the song and allow other instruments and the vocals to shine through. Saw them playing back in the early 80's and still one of the better live shows at the time (considering no in ear monitors).
Uno de mis bajistas favoritos demasiado bueno!!! Pura Vida!!🤘
@ricardojmestre
3 жыл бұрын
Pura Vida!
Brillant, thanks man 👍
I find nothing unusual in Hook's playing. Just a tendency for playing modally, and with a rather bright sound. Is he a great bassist? Totally. It's not a matter of simplicity of the bassline but JUST DOING IT RIGHT IN THE END. In the end of the day, he is always so CONSISTENT. He sits right on the mix. Has evolved a lot technically throughout his career too. He makes the bass SPEAK to you. Always. He has done a lot of diverse stuff and he ALWAYS manages to transfer his enormous energy to the listener. Many show off pros can't do that. Just because he isn't playing slap funk 240 bpm type bass doesn't mean his technical abilities are limited. I totally disagree on this one. He is TOTALLY qualified for the genres he plays. AND HE HAS INSPIRED GENERATIONS OF GROUPS AND MUSICIANS. A huge impact on the historical flow of art.
@antoniomarques6111
2 жыл бұрын
George from Greece gets it.
@MongerOfStrings8222
2 жыл бұрын
She's lost control is pretty unique
Another excellent video, Paul! I don't even play bass, but most (post-punk) songs I write come from the bass groove and build up from there. So your channel is like manna from heaven for me! (one sidenote: Hook admired Glen Matlock, the original bassist and primary songwriter of Sex Pistols. Sid Vicious was a one note joke, but maybe not even one note. But he was even more inspired by the Stooges!)
@jaschul
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Matlock was always a very solid bassist. I listened to Pistols demos and was taken aback by how melodic his bass lines were. I wish he'd never been thrown out of the band!
also with his playing the baritone guitar bass tuned E to E, that part of his style is a big influence to my playing using my Danelectro 6 string
This is what I was looking for!
dream come true! thx for this video :)
Good 2 know that Joy D & New Order aren't YT blockers. Nice vid dude!
Do Carlos D formerly of Interpol 🔥
Been listening to JD recently because some of my punk/new wave friends like them a lot. Pretty cool video as always. Could you do Mike Starr or Johnny Christ maybe?
Great video, only thing I think you missed was Lemmy's work in Hawkwind also being a large influence on not only Peter Hook but also The Sex Pistols
excellent vid. Thanks. Next Andy rourke from the smiths’? An underated bass player.
Yes!
Hooky changed the way I saw the bass. As much as I love basslines, he really sold me on the bass as a melodic instrument. Sumner's guitar playing with Hook also changed the way I saw the instrument. I'm sure other's have done it before, but Joy Division is what got me to see the bass playing melody and the guitar supporting the bass as an option and a way to change up the "orchestration" of guitar music.
very well done, thank you
omg thank you very very much
Peter has a phenomenal style of playing.
I need a vídeo of Jerry Only of Misfits please.
Something I've never seen or noticed before @4:44, Hook playing a Fender Precision bass or copy with lollipop tuners. Fender used these between 1966 and 1968 on Jazz basses. They're also found on a few '68 vintage Fender Precision basses but they're quite rare and it's a bit surprising to see Hook apparently playing one.
@milltimberwhite
2 жыл бұрын
It was when New Order had their gear stolen in New York - Hooky ended up renting what appears to be a P bass.
YES FINALLY
How to sound like Peter Hook: 1) Become Peter Hook This is the way.
@thewhoman3182
3 жыл бұрын
step inside...
Hi Paul The fact is his strong personality and Peter really has Charisma
Great Bass player
Yes dont follow the root ♠️🤘 that what makes music in joy division en new order. Love iT 🦋🦋🙏❤️❤️
6:15 that's actually yamaha bass with custom hollow body, and he played yamaha for most of the new order along with six string bass
Awesome man! Are you maybe planning on doing an episode on Jean-Michel Labadie from Gojira?
Great video! One of my big inspirations. Maybe Mike Starr, Ben Shepherd or Andy Rourke next?
@jaschul
3 жыл бұрын
Shepherd please!!
4:44 Damn. Now I want to hear a Joy Division mock of Hooky purely doing root 😂
Punk pushed the boundaries of pop music, through common people who picked an instrument and got the most of it.
Hook & Potts also started Monaco. Pretty good album. Check it out.
The bassline to disorder is my favorite thing to play on bass I think
Greatest bass player of all time. Perfect kiss is beautiful
@WallieTheRed
Жыл бұрын
To my ear of course. I know there are far more technical players.
@GuyNoirPrivateEye875
3 ай бұрын
@@WallieTheRed The best thing about bass is technicality almost never matters as long as the bass line suits the feel of the song. I think the post-punk genre is a great example of that.
His bass playing is phenomenal on perfect kiss tho..and he slapped on the intro!..I mean he's no victor wooten..but he's still a badass bassist!
Chas Chandler from the animals has some really good bass lines very underrated you should make a video lesson on Chas Chandler
top 👍
Please do one of these about Carlos Dengler(ex-Interpol). Oh and you have a funny way of speaking English.
make a video about jerry only of misfits please. I need it. Your KZread channel is very good, I'm your fan.
The Cars´ Benjamin Orr (R.I.P)...
what about going into more details, like what chorus he used?
Eerie Von for the band Danzig video lesson
Have you done a video about Ryan from Mudvayne?
You should do jerry only from the misfits and cronos from venom
Yes. His approach was what made him different.
You should do Jah Wobble in Public Image Ltd, his playing is massively hypnotic
@sunsetman22
3 жыл бұрын
YES! he has some great basslines. he and Hook are the bassists that inspired me to pick up a bass myself
@hobbymanx9200
Жыл бұрын
YES! Peter and Jah are my bass kings
@Tomversal
11 ай бұрын
I forgot I even ever commented this, but I still think he needs to do Jah Wobble!
Need to do Carlos D after this, Unknown Pleasures walked so Turn On The Bright Lights could run
Please do a Mike Herrera of MXPX ! 🙏🏼
I'd love a Mark Hoppus one or even a Mikey Way one
@hobbymanx9200
Жыл бұрын
Mikey is pretty decent. He just had to play bass because his brother sang and friends played other instruments. But ended up becoming a good bass player. Pretty stable too.
Ionce got pissed with him in a grotty little pub in manchester , he was legend and bought all the beer
A video of Mike Starr please!!!
4:51 for the win. HOOKY!
“How about you fucking follow me”
Peter Hook and Bernard Sumner traded bass/guitar roles for a couple JD songs, including the Sound of Music and Atrocity Exhibition. and I believe Heart and Soul as well. Weird thing is, you can't really tell.
@ralfhenke8148
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
Any chance for a video about Andy Rourke, Lou Barlow or Greg Norton?
@standinsilence
3 жыл бұрын
Lou Barlow!!
Peter Hook wasn't inspired by Sid Vicious. When he saw the Sex Pistols in Manchester Glen Matlock was the bass player.
Hooky and Simon Gallup are my favorite bassists. Should my next bass be a j bass or p bass?
Please do Fat Mike-NOFX
Next time can u do flea plz
How to sound like Peter Hook: Try to sound like Ennio Morricone with "limited technical abilities" and do your own.
I feel like Musicians and Music Fans tend to obsess over complexity. There is nothing wrong with that mind you, I love out there stuff that tests the boundaries of what music can be, but for me, music at its core is about feeling and passion. Hook isn't a "blow your fucking mind" bassist but he is still tremendously good. Joy Division's staying power I don't think is a fluke, and while the music itself is not tremendously complex , it speaks to people to their absolute core. For every Victor Wooten, Flea, or Geddy Lee, there is some bloke in a warehouse jamming with his friends, and too me that is what music is about.