I'm new to Garmin so this video was SUPER helpful to me as I'm still getting a handle on all the features my watch has! Thanks for this video! I was just about to try and figure this out myself and your video was quite well timed for me!!!

Yes, I use the course feature and used it just yesterday. A problem I have with it is that it often has trouble following and creating a course on urban trails but instead will route you onto a ROAD & follow a much longer route to get to the path. This frequently happens when trying to map a course in a city, then entering a park area that has trails & paths that are SHOWN in the Garmin course map but won't route to a spot on the path. I have switched from FOLLOW Roads to POPULAR routes and finally giving up & used the FREEHAND routing option. This requires constant UNDOING, re-trying; UNDOING, switching routing options, and repeating. This is not unique to Garmin Courses. This happens on MAP MY RUN too But all in all , I like it with the aforementioned limitation

Yes, I use course builder!!! I've used it for many hikes and bike rides. It has been incredibly helpful and dependable. I'm glad to see it get some attention with updates.

Great easy summary of the changes! I had noticed the layout changes, but I didn't do a deep dive, thanks for pointing things out! 🙂

Great tutorial video! I used course builder when I lived in WA. Not so much now that I’m in TX. However, I always bring in a GPX of any race I’m in. Thanks for the great content!

Thanks for the video! I’m a local. On the pronunciation of Olathe, it is O-Lay-Thuh :)

Nice man. Just bought a fenix 7 pro and saw your older vid. Was kind of a tedious proces. This way more smooth. Since I have an iPad only worklflow, l'm looking forward to the ios explanation. Love your channel. Keep up the great work.

Thank you for that update! I was not aware of it but will definitely use it for my future trail runs.👍

Another great video Dave!! great work!

I'm switch back to Garmin soon if polar doesn't update things

I LOVE Course Builder. I use it to plan routes for most of my hikes.

Super helpful! I didn’t know we could do all that on a computer!!! Thanks

Thank you, very helpful info 😊 congratulations on the 100k keep up the excellent content love your work. This will definitely help with my training for the Ultra Trail Cape Town 100km. Regards from South Africa, Cape Town.

Great video! I signed up for a 100k in June and a 100 miler in October so this will be great to start implementing and get out on trails!

Hey my guy. Watched a ton of your videos and never saw which Garmin watch you prefer for your personal daily driver. I've tried about 5-6 different Garmins and am still trying to figure out my best bang for the buck. Thanks for the awesome content!

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

I don't really have a "daily driver" at this point because I'm always testing something. However, I have been wearing the 51mm Epix Pro since it was released. It's a great watch! I also really enjoy the Forerunner 965.

I needed this video. Thanks

Great video! I love to use the course builder on my iPad. It works well with touch and is also great to use the Apple Pencil.

Looks like fun feature! I’m gonna have to try creating a course, to see how well it works with my Garmin Instinct (1st generation) watch.

Thanks man! I didn't know about that though I've been using web version of Garmin Connect for the several months.

Great video. Thanks!

Thanks, didn’t know it existed. I used plotaroute and then uploaded using Garmin. Will give it a go, love the notify of turn and interest points. That’ll be really helpful. Thanks

Super useful, I’ve been researching the Garmin ecosystem for a while with a view to getting the Epix. I currently have the Suunto7, nice display but terrible battery life. Now the Epix pro 51mm has dropped I’m waiting for it to come back in stock.

Great video and very nice and useful utility, thanks for show us.

New Garmin user, Epix Pro. I've been using a premade built-in training course to get back running but after a few weeks running the same route, today I was itching to find out about the route builder. Stumbled on this video, it explained everything really well, so insta-subscribe :) Thank you!

@ChaseTheSummit

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@djsirmatthew5070

7 ай бұрын

​@@ChaseTheSummitFollow-up question: is it possible to automatically create a route given starting point and distance (for example I want a 10k route starting from my home)? And if so, does Garmin put variation in the generated courses or is it always the same course? EDIT: Yes (answering my own question for future reference and other people). When creating a route, you have routing options (default at custom), which you can set to automatic. Enter distance and desired direction, select start point on the map: voila you have a route. Don't like it? Click refresh for a different result. Works like a charm :)

I use the import feature more than the Course builder, but good to know that it was updated. I also noticed on the import feature that they automatically upload recent GPX files so I don't even have to actually import it.

I don't really use the course builder, or at least not to build courses with. I think it is a brilliant tool for hiking, and for trail running though, and I will pop into the course builder occasionally to check e.g. distances or more likely elevation data if I am altering some of my existing running routes. Most of the time I must admit I just go to the old tried and tested routes that I've been doing for years, but when it gets too boring I do look for alternate loops or routes. I hadn't noticed any changes to the course builder, but I probably don't use it often enough to notice unless it is really big changes.

Excellent summary. I have tried Garmin's course builder for cycling routes but it doen't zoom in to the details I can get with RideWithGPS. I have a subscription to RWGPS so I get the best of it and I'm just use to working with it. It does get a bit more difficult, for me anyway, to send the course to the watch but easy peazy sending to the Edge 830. Another problem I encountered though if if I use the watch and the 830 while I do the course it will report both rides and show that I did double rides that day. I have to delete one of those rides to keep things on the up and up in my history.

Great video!. I would love to see a tutorial on importing routes. There are different file type options (GPX, FIT, etc ) and even different setting within those like track or route. I am rather new to Fitness watches and Garmin, so not sure what are the differences and which give you the best results when downloading and importing into Garmin connect. Thanks!

Super useful video. I’m reaching out the Garmin ecosystem for a while and it’s hard to get some useful information. Especially when you can’t get your hands on to try out the software. Im coming from a Apple Watch ultra and I’m tired to check out different running apps to match my running specs. Although I find the Garmin graphic style horrible, I will skip to Garmin soon I f Apple does not come up with a usable (all in one) sport-app like Garmin offers. Thanks again mate for the deep insight. It helps me quite a lot. PS: how does the sync works (especially in the field) without wlan etc? Do you need your mobile fore syncing do to Bluetooth? Greetings from Germany

Thank you, useful. I use fenix 6 several years, but only with iphone, was not aware of desktop version of web site. Have stupid question- link of the web site, and should i use same passw and login i use for iphone app?😅😊

I haven’t used course builder, but it looks superhandy! Hope it works for a forerunner 245 🙏🏻

Your vids are ALWAYS helpful. I'm pretty new at all this, messing around with different apps to find and build courses. What is your favorite web source for doing this? I'm playing with Connect, Gaia, Alltrails, and OnX Backcountry at this point, still feeling them out. Appreciate your videos sir, they've helped a lot.

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

I’m a big fan of Strava and Komoot for finding routes that other people have posted! Glad you’ve found this helpful!

Thanks for the video, do you know how to set a course point to a specific millage? it is hard to point in the map to a specific distance provided by a race organizer on where the aid stations are going to be, thank you!!

Hi do you have a video how to create a route on the connect app? I'm struggling to move/delete the little course points I made by mistake - thanks x

I've used the Garmin course builder in the past and have recently been using Strava to build my routes, i think its time to revisit the Garmin builder and will hopefully find some new routes in the process. Route plotting is not as fun or as easy as you think, hopefully this will improve that.... Cheers for the head's up Dave. 👍

@midsfella

11 ай бұрын

Maybe I'm missing it but a feature I use when plotting a route on Strava is how much of the ride is On/Off road, dotted line showing the off road sections..

Training plan and custom course question: just tried it but must have done something wrong. I saw the map with the blue line to follow and an arrow in the left top corner indicating to turn but no audio notifications (While I do get training plan audio). Is there a certain order to do things? Also, I need to learn the functions of the buttons better as I first abruptly stopped the work out lol

Great video. Thank you. For some reason I had an issue creating a waypoint using connect on mg phone

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

It can be a little finicky. The cursor has to be directly on top of your track or it won't make a waypoint!

@TamonYanagimoto

11 ай бұрын

@@ChaseTheSummit yeah. I’ve zoomed all the way in on my phone and I still cannot add it. Super frustrating.

Really useful video. Have you by any chance compared the Suunto builder with Garmins? I am on my way, very likely, to switch from Suunto to Garmin. Have come to the conclusion that Suuntos route builder is perhaps the only feature I will be missing. Very underated feature, much better heatmaps than Garmin. At least where I live. Also finds "hidden" tracks that Garmin never seems to find. Anyway... Garmin definitely has it upsides.

👋 Hello Dave! ...I still like to watch your videos! 😎👍 Thank you very much for all the work! ...you like to test 🤓, I have this question: I use the Stryd (Wind), but now also the Garmin HRM-pro+ and a Forerunner 965. All three have power data… Where would the pros & cons be in most meaningful training with power data? 🤔Can I sell the Stryd? ...a video about it would be really cool 😁. With sporting greetings from the Eifel/Germany!

if i use the garmin 965 is easy to use gpx file to navigation ? go hike frist time (full gps) or i need to buy the best one like epix ?

Great video! My only gripe with courses is that once it's loaded to your device but you want to remove it, you have to manually delete the course from your device even if you've deleted it on Garmin Connect!

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

Yeah that is kinda weird eh?

Hey, one thing I dont get...when I want to do activity, I have there just pure "cycling". But when creating course, I have to pick up road, MTB or Gravel. Problem is, that if I do for example Gravel, later it transfer to Strava as "other". And then I have to manually edit that...any tips ?

I have not used this in the past, but looks very similar to what use on Koomot.

lol i feel so dumb not realizing one could change the map view!! Or is that new? I'd wondered why smaller parks/trails weren't showing and now I see them on Google Maps or OpenStreetMap. I'll try using it some more! Best feature I've found that I use often is taking the gpx file from AllTrails and importing it.

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

Open Street Map seems to have the best level of detail in my area. It shows very nuance trails in my town that no other maps seem to identify!

Man, I'm new to the garmin ecosystem and today was my first "bummed" moment. I have a warmup/few km run/cooldown setup in my workouts as well as course. I went to the run workout and starting running only to see that it wasn't tracking the gps course. So, I stopped and went into courses and it had me on route. Well, after finishing the workout course it didn't track any of it at all and just considered it a "navigation". Therefore, it didn't show any HR zones, etc. as well as update any of my "activity" for that day. Can anyone help guide me in the direction of how to setup a run workout that's gps guided, and has all of my data screens? Note: I've created the course in the connect app and sent it to my watch of course. I'm going to be moving to a new area this week and it'd be nice to have a gps guided workout run route to follow. Also, quite irritated that after the first 5 days of having the fenix 7 pro it just stopped sleep tracking. So, i've been in a rabbit hole the past 2 days trying to fix it lol.

Garmin is a great watch for sport but I must say that Suunto does this on the smartphone app and it works good

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

Suunto has an awesome course builder. Garmin's phone app also has a similar interface. In this video I just wanted to highlight the changes of the website course builder. Thanks for watching!

Dave, do you have an experience with routes where the line crosses itself (like a shape of an 8) or you have to do a section 2x etc.? We have a local forum where some ultrarunner complain that the navigation of those tracks fail on the watch. The watch tries to just take you along the wrong route where the line crosses and even screws up the climbs calculation etc etc. It drives them mad and we don't know what is causing this. The new feature you're showing is cool but I do not think this has been the problem.

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

It get's a little tricky with those types of routes. The newer watches have gotten better with this though. It's really the older non-mapping watches like the original instinct, or Forerunner's that ran into weird quirks.

02:48 - you also can simply open the file on your phone, and associate the file with GCM. Then the course will be automatically added. 06:22 - there is a Loop to Start button, so you don't need to click the destination point on the map by yourself. ;) 07:16 - that feature is available for a long time already. It wasn't available several years ago, but since 2021 (?) is for sure.

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

Yep, the phone app is quite handy too. The route I created in this video was just for a demonstration. As mentioned, I had previously made a similar video to this back in 2020 but Garmin silently updated the look and some of the features so I thought it was worth re-visiting. Thanks for tuning in!

Are all of these watch features the same on the forerunner 965?

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

In on-map display of waypoint icons hasn't made it's way to the 965 yet but I suspect we'll see that with a firmware update in the near future.

Amazing vid, is the instinct able to do this?

@KenPiper

11 ай бұрын

The Instinct series won't show the maps on-watch but they can still do navigation, it'll just be breadcrumb-style that shows you a line of where you're supposed to go.

@javierlopezruiz7300

11 ай бұрын

@@KenPiper Thank you so much, that might be enough for me

Of topic. Is garmin watches getting steps while driving?

@deantreloar

11 ай бұрын

my first Garmin Instinct definitely did, not sure if they’ve improved or corrected that.

a bevy of Garmins

The course is not available on my Connect app. Is this a premium feature of some sort?

@ChaseTheSummit

9 ай бұрын

Nope, not premium but your watch may not support it? What model?

Does it work with the garmin fenix 6x pro?

@ChaseTheSummit

8 ай бұрын

Yes

I use garmin explore app for build my course.

Great overview tho I still find the UX of their app so very annoying. The worst offender IMO is when you are browsing other's routes, the map's location keeps flipping back to your default which requires you to search the other location again.

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

There's certainly some quirks.

@zxcxcsdfasdfasf

11 ай бұрын

@@ChaseTheSummit would be interesting to see a head to head comparison of Garmin, Strava and any other route planning apps

I pay for youtube so i dont see ads. Then you put your own ad in. I really wanted to finish your video

@ChaseTheSummit

2 ай бұрын

Sponsored videos help pay my bills and allow me to create videos like this. The good news is you can skip past it unlinked youtube’s ads.

not possibal to creat course in india.

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

Bummer! I thought those maps were available internationally

oh-LAYTH-ah

I am big fan of using my phone rather than using a computer

@thomasmalnoury4532

11 ай бұрын

Happy to see jour next video 😊 (Garmin is not so good when it turns to mobile unfortunately 🥴

@ChaseTheSummit

11 ай бұрын

Yep, Connect Mobile does have a course builder as well I just find it easier to use the website on my laptop.

Honestly the Garmin maps are unusable, they simply do not show enough detail for trail running. I use Komoot, which also sends courses to my Garmin but the maps are way better.