Feel free to use my discount code at the Dialed Cycling Lab: (not an affiliate link) dialedcyclinglab.com/watches-gps-smart-watches/ discount code: "matt_legrand" Or these Amazon links (affiliate links) Coros Pace 3: amzn.to/4bLFhZK Apple Watch SE: amzn.to/49joax3 Garmin FR 255: amzn.to/4bWBU2z Garmin FR 265: amzn.to/4bUfezU Apple Watch Series 9: amzn.to/3T4DeZA Garmin FR 955: amzn.to/42HgIJD Suunto Race: amzn.to/42JFsAO Garmin FR 965: amzn.to/3T6Rxgp Apple Watch Ultra 2: amzn.to/3T4Dsjo Garmin Fenix 7 Pro: amzn.to/42KzZtr Garmin Epix Pro: amzn.to/3UFe4lA Instinct Solar 2X: amzn.to/3UMxFAj

Perfect timing! Thank you for making this video.

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Just remember that the Garmin FR 165 just came out after this list. It's probably worth checking out

These reviews are beautifully put together! So much fun to watch. I switched from a Fenix to Epix 2 51mm in early December. Winters are dark and gloomy here, and the solar never really made much difference. I've used the Epix as an everyday watch, and have done a fair bit of Winter mountaineering this season, plus mountain rescue call outs. The display is crystal clear in horrible conditions (and kind of comforting!) And the mapping detail is really improved. It did take a while to get used to AMOLED gesture mode, though!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

That's awesome Dan! Yeah, I agree with you, the display on the Epix is really helpful. I'm glad you snagged the 51mm Epix. It actually get's better battery life with the bigger size. The Solar seems to be most helpful on watches like the Instinct Solar 2X. It needs a low draw device like the Instinct to really 'shine' ☀️ Thanks for the kind words about the review!

We have been waiting for this and thank you for delivering! You’re one of the best reviewers on YT!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you Jerel! That is super nice of you to say.

@JerelMcCollum

3 ай бұрын

And this countdown made me consider the 955 solar due to features and price point with the current sales. The fénix line may be better tech with better build quality.

great list Matt! looking forward to what new stuff comes out this year if anything

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Me too! I’m guessing an affordable Forerunner from Garmin. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@phehibs

3 ай бұрын

Out today 😂 ​@@mlegrand

Excellent ranking Matt- always tough to assemble a list like this but yours is great!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Thank you Chris!!! Hope you are well this winter! 👍

Awesome video... Always great...

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind comment. 👌

I have been using the Epix 2 for a few years now. Still love it. I’m too embedded in the Garmin badges to switch platforms, lol.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

That's awesome Melinda! Any positive motivation is good in my book. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

@samiahmed7056

3 ай бұрын

But it's not been 2 years

@braddavister137

3 ай бұрын

@@samiahmed7056the epix 2 has been two years. The epix 2 pro hasn’t been a year.

@user-nn6uy7vn9s

3 ай бұрын

I really like the Garmin badges,I work on challenges so I get another one, almost obsessed with them

@CatalinAdc

3 ай бұрын

@@samiahmed7056 yes epix 2nd doesn't have 2 years yet

I've been using the Epix Pro Gen 2 titanium 47mm since July 2023 and I love it! I used it and still use it a lot for hiking with the gpx uploaded on my watch for navigation. It's fantastic. This is my very 1st connected watch. I never had any other connected and/or smartwatch before. The connect app on my smartphone is also awesome!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

That’s awesome! I’m super glad you like it.

Great video Matt!! Thanks for picking my epix for #1 😊 had it about a month and it’s great…

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I did that just for you Jack!!! 😂 Well, I guess that and because it's a hell of a watch option for people to consider. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

I’m a runner and just switched to a AWU2 around launch time, upgrading from a AW Series 7. Battery life, while not Garmin, is great, I never think about it. I’m running 20-30mi a week and have never once had battery anxiety, as I did with my series 7, which started dying on my longer runs. My goal is start running ultras, and by my 40th birthday (5 years), qualify for, and finish Western States. I know that when the time comes, and my body is more ready for that, I’ll be using a Garmin, probably Fenix edition, mostly for the battery life. For now, I’m sticking with this AWU2 and couldn’t be more happy every time I take it out on a run.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Western States would be awesome! I suggest starting that lottery process as early as possible. But I imagine the Apple Watch Ultra will also continue to evolve. You might want an Epix or Enduro but you might not. It might depend on what Apple does over the next few years. 🤞🏻 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Thanks for the list; great timing as I was looking to selecting my first non-Apple SW. I would be inclined more towards a watch that can track HIIT, strength training, yoga, occasional runs/ walks and help give meaningful tracking insights. Which one(s) would you pick from your top 10 for a user like me?

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

I’ve yet to review the Garmin FR 165 but that’s one I’d take a close look at in addition to my list.

Great video! I have absolutely loved my Apple Watch Ultra. I have the original and it’s great. Does everything I want it to do and tracks well. I’ve ran plenty of marathons and it work has enough battery to get me where I need to go afterwards with usually 30-40% left.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Glad you’re enjoying it Cody! It’s such a great option!!! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

I love your Channel still more. I complete agree with your choice.

@mlegrand

7 күн бұрын

Wow, thank you so much Reiner! Super nice of you to say this!

I love my Epix 51, such a great watch for running and hiking.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Good call Aleksander! Glad you're enjoying it! I couldn't agree more.

@danscoular

3 ай бұрын

Me too! Mine has been a great companion!

@MD-tr1yv

3 ай бұрын

Yeah epix 51 is the absolute best for working at night. It’s so bright and easy to read

I am editing a video about the COROS Vertix 2, and yeah, COROS is in my top five of smartwatches to buy in 2024. Nice review about your timepieces. Great audio too, Matt 👍

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

Great video Matt! Could you please do a list for top 10 GPS watches for open water swimming?

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

I did a video like that a while back. And I'd love to make another one as the weather gets warmer. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eIJ128mKpNSxcrg.html

What a video to start my morning!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Awesome! Glad I can help in some small way!!! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Garmin Instict 2X Tactical here. I love it!! Would not change it for free. Well, maybe with the MARQ series but who wouldn't

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Yes! I love the Instinct 2X. Such a great option for people. I don’t think the MARQ series is worth in comparison. 😬

Amazing review as always. Super well done and your picks are almost perfect. I do believe the Polar Vantage V3 deserves to be on this list as an over priced but very capable and featured watch. Perhaps if you bundled the Apple Watches as 1 and the Garmin epix/fenix as 1 you could have opened up more slots for polar V3, the instinct (rather then make it a bonus) and maybe an Amazfit would have been an excellent one to include. Anyway just excellent. Keep your videos coming! 🎉

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Ahh, that would have been a good way to sneak in a few more watches. Good call Daniel 👍 I haven't tested the V3 yet. It's a watch I'd love to get in and test here. Hopefully as they fix the heart rate tracking I could review it.

This list is awesome. Love the bonus watch as the I2X also offers such value at the mid-range (since it also has flashlight). Perfect placement of all as I would say as well. And sidenote the Suunto race is an absolutely incredible watch. I love it at the top end of all that I've tested, like ALL of them - other than the heart rate sensor. The heart rate sensor just changes it all, and unfortunately for the worst. You've gotta try it and let me know what you think

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I’d love to try it. Maybe some day. 🤷🏻‍♂️

good list :) got the fr 255 during the black friday sale, great value! Do you know which brands are good at repairability? Garmin kinda sucks in that department unfortunately.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I’ve been wanting to make a ‘best customer service’ video for a long time. I don’t know which watches are most repairable. It really seems like none of these are great. 😬

@gerrykay1482

3 ай бұрын

Garmin replaces stuff. That's better than repairability.

I'm looking to buy my first GPS watch and am deciding between the Coros Pace 3 and the Garmin Forerunner 255. The Forerunner 255 is on sale for $250, so the price difference isn't a factor. I'll mostly be using the watch for running but sleep and general fitness tracking will be nice as well (weightlifting and yoga mostly). Was wondering why you rated the Forerunner 255 higher than the Pace 3? Also, do you think Pace 3 being newer and Coros supporting its older products longer with updates should impact my decision?

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

I ranked the 255 higher because it has a good bit more features. I really like Garmin’s morning report and sleep tracking. GPS is also more accurate in my testing. Coros does a great job supporting older devices. It’s hard to say exactly how Garmin will support the 255 over the next few years. 🤷🏻‍♂️ If it were me, I’d get the 255.

I own a POLAR pacer pro, and Really love the look of it, on the hardware and the materials side, it feels very nice and robust. However, on the software side and especially on the UI side, it’s lacking and feels very 2018 ish especially when browsing the menus or in the integrated widget-apps. Witch is a bit frustrating because I wish I could recommend POLAR to anyone but currently, I wouldn’t because of the things mentioned above and the fact that they still haven’t integrated some really basic, but yet crucial features, like customization for the watch faces, menus, more settings and a complete redesign of the watchs interface. Also, the possibility to have more than 4 information displayed while exercising, and a counter for sets while working out in the gym and much more little, but yet important aspects, that when pilled up, represents a step back regarding the competition. it’s crazy to me that the polar pacer, for example, didn’t received any updates or new features since 2022. POLAR could easily be among the best sport watch on the market, but they should prioritize the providing features and more frequent updates and UI improvement, rather than releasing new watch every years.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I’m actually worried about Polar. They’ve always made great watches but it feels like they’re in a tricky spot right now where there watches aren’t selling great and the competition is moving super quickly. 😬

I've been very happy with the Polar Pacer pro. Good price, good feature set

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, the Polar Pacer Pro is a great option at a great price. I think it was on my list last year but just off of the list this year. I hopefully Polar has some more good options coming soon! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Good stuff Matt. I’d probably push the Pace 3 higher in the rankings. This list pretty much has any and every runner covered. I’d also find a way to get a 955 in the top 10.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Craig!

I bought Fenix 7 pro sapphire solar 10 day ago, and it is amazing. Very accurate and beautifull, i use it every day in gym and wear it 24/7 I find it for 699$ on sale in Croatia. Very good video 💪💪💪

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

Awesome deal on an amazing watch. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Yes Matt pretty good pointed review 🙏 never understood Garmin policy to have such models through I was in the Fenix line more than 10 years with 5,6X and recently sold my 7X for an Ultra🙈 and after bought a Instinct 2X and for the first time an EpixGen2 for my first AMOLED Garmin . What does other have doesn't have other but I'm totally ok with this😊

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like you’ve had a lot of good options over the years. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

@CatalinAdc

3 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand yes amazing quality over the years, never had a problem. Wear them in a harsh work environment without protective case neither. In my opinion Garmin Fenix line was the strongest and the reason I've sold each of them was to see what's bringing new each launch🙈 now I've never thought that a simple led torch it's such a great feature !!

I’m thinking of getting a watch and I’m stuck between the forerunner 955 and 265. They’re about the same price as the 955 is older so has some discounts. What would you recommend? Thanks, keep up the great videos 👍

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I'd have a look at my 265 video. I think it'll depend on if you need Golf, Maps, or the extra long battery life.

@decasr2765

13 күн бұрын

955

I'm looking at the Epix watch since I play golf, waterproof features and health.

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

It’s phenomenal! 👏

Somehow agree with this list except for Apple and Suunto watches that I haven't tried. But would love to see you review Suunto Race and see how it compares to equivalent Garmin watches. Really curious with Suunto as some of their watch I found itattractively designed. And as I have tried Pace 3, 955, 7s Pro and now 265, I came up with conclusion that: Amoled is indeed quite nice, Fit and Comfort (includes size and weight) is very important factor and lastly some feature are only good to have but not necessary. Hence probably I'll stay on 265 for awhile until maybe I'm "Pro" enough (rich as well) to take advantage 9**, Fenix or Epix additional features. Cheers again for wonderful vids man! 😁

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts on these. It’s awesome that you’ve tried so many options. The 265 is fantastic. Great choice. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

These days I wear Epix Pro and Apple Watch Ultra. But the Ultra is a fine running watch by itself. Nice overview of your usage of the devices.

@mlegrand

14 күн бұрын

Thank you Sean! I’m the same way. I am typically wearing two watches all the time. I occasionally get some interesting comments but it works for me. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

As usual,I agree with you,GPS, battery life, sexy looks and maps,I love my Forerunner 965,it doesn't let me down

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Steve! For some reason I really do like the look of the 965.

Great list. I'm thinking of the Suunto Race or Garmin Forerunner 965. Did you had a change to compare the two head to head on a daily basis yet? Which one would you pick? Because I'm a bit worried about the scratches on the 965, but on the other hand the laggy software of the Race.

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

Ok, I’m testing the Suunto Race now. Video coming soon. But I’m very impressed with it. Still, it’s hard to beat the 965. I’d say it depends on what you want to do with it. Heart rate accuracy is pretty abysmal but you can always use an affordable external HR monitor. I’m loving the titanium and sapphire here. Especially at this price point.

@ChristianSlagter

29 күн бұрын

@@mlegrand Ah looking forward to the video then! I would like to track and improve my sleep, health and overall condition. I mostly play soccer and commute on a bike. It's a shame the heart rate did not improve over time with software updates. I also want to wear the watch at the office, that's why the design of the Suunto stood out for me.

@mlegrand

29 күн бұрын

@@ChristianSlagter - The Suunto will track sleep and some recover metrics. If you like the look of it, I'd go for it. The heart rate stuff isn't great but as long as you know that it isn't super reliable during running you'll be fine.

@ChristianSlagter

29 күн бұрын

@@mlegrand thank you. Here in the Netherlands it has the same price as the white Garmin Epic Gen 2 Sapphire, what would you choose 😁?

@mlegrand

29 күн бұрын

@@ChristianSlagter - I have all of these watches and I would choose the Epix Gen 2 Sapphire.

Good vid. I've been using apple watches since the 2, and tried the epix pro 51mm, but ended up selling it. For the price I thought it should have been better than my current ultra 1 watch, and besides the battery life, it just wasn't. At least for me and my iphone. But I don't value the training features as much as others might. Just my 2 cents for others that might be thinking about doing something similar.

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

Thanks, yeah the Apple Watch Ultra is a fantastic smart watch. There are some tiny things I like better about the Epix but you have to give up a lot of features. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

would you recommend the pace 3 over the 265 you mentioned you recommended the 265 to your friend for triathalon is there a reason not to get the pace 3

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

I do think the 265 is a nicer watch than the Pace 3. It has more features, more accurate GPS and Heart rate. I do like the Pace 3.

@GGN00BZ

Ай бұрын

@@mlegrand thanks for the input!!!

I love my Garmin Instinct 2, just bought it last week, new for 180 euros. Coming from Amazfit Gtr 3 Pro, much better watch. Amazing video, cheers

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I'm a huge fan of the Instinct 2! Hope you enjoy it!

Thanks for the list. Apple watch is like a smartphone, but I hate charging it twice a day. I don't know if I need mapping or not. While I was new to the area I kind of missed it, but now I know all the ins and outs, so mapping probably would be nice, but not critical to have. My personal choise was instinct 2x couple month ago. And after Apple watch I am so happy I don't need to charge it daily. Once I forgot to turn gps off and nex day I had 11% of battery. It was enough to do 10k and then have about 3 percents. So really like the instinct for its price/value.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

The Instinct is such a great option. Thanks Artem!

I was thinking to get either the Garmin fr 165 or 255, but I've decided to get the Garmin fr 255 as I got it on sale in for $350 (AUD) so around 230 USD

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

It’s a great watch! Hope you enjoy it. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

My # 1 is the Garmin Tactix 7 follow by the Fénix 7x sapphire solar and in 3rd place Apple Watch Ultra (1)…

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Good call! It’s always tricky because there are so many versions of Fenix watches. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

I have a Galaxy Watch 4 Classic, an Apple Watch Series 7 and a Garmin Epix Gen 2 (not the PRO version). What can I say. I love all 3. The Galaxy is a connection wizard with all my Samsung devices and a great smartwatch. The Apple is an all around Smartwatch, which I only use when i take my iPhone out with me. And the Garmin is a tech beast full of features thai will never get to use, but it is beautiful, its titanium and sapphire. Its the one I choose for health monitoring, wokouts and jogging. Fantastic software Garmin Connect. Great video by the way. Thumbs up.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. That’s an awesome collection you have there. I’d love to review the Galaxy Watch at some point. It’s been missing from my reviews for a while now. Hopefully this year! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

I have been using the Fenix 6 for over a year now. Helping out with my son's boy scout troop, the long battery life and mapping features really make this watch indispensable. Week-long camp outs are nothing for this watch. I love using the sight and go feature while teaching the kids orienteering. They can use their compass and count their steps. I will just walk behind them making sure they are going the right way.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

That is awesome! The newer devices have a few cool new features that you may or may not care about. I love the morning reports but the key features (mapping, etc) are still going strong. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Coming from a forerunner 255, I got me the Fenix 7 Pro sapphire and while I really like MIP displays und love the functions of the watch, I really struggle with visibility on the sapphire version because of the dark tint . It’s hard to read indoors sometimes or in bad weather conditions and if I turn on the backlight with gesture, the battery drains noticeably faster. Someone here with experience with the standart Fenix 7 Pro? I’m not sure if I should change to non sapphire or if I get used to it

@mlegrand

26 күн бұрын

I haven't had the chance to compare the 7 Pro non sapphire to the sapphire.

@JasonRaneses

26 күн бұрын

The added solar panel is a bigger deterrent to readability than the sapphire glass, especially with maps. If you want to stick with a MIP display in the same range, also without solar, you’d have to go with Tactix standard edition.

In your experience, Garmin providing security updates “at least” until May of this year a problem? I'm trying to decide between the FR255, the new FR165 and the Coros Pace 3 for pool, occasional open water and racing, which I hope will last several years. I'm more inclined towards the FR255, but I'm afraid of buying a “new” watch without support for updates, and this be a problem in the near future.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I’ve had good experiences with Garmin continuing to support older devices. The 255 is probably the one I’d suggest as well. I’d consider the 166 but it doesn’t have triathlon or multi sport options. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Hey I think you missed Epix Gen 2 ( Non Pro ) , I wear 255 myself ,but my next watch maybe Instinct 2x. I'd love to wait utill price go down abit or Instinct3 that come out with Sat iQ. thanks for your Vid.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Good call Ryan! I think the Epix Gen 2 is also priced really well right now. Thanks for posting that here. 👌

965 is really awesome.. loving it..also honorable mention of Coros Apex 2 pro ?

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

It’s a good watch but didn’t quite make my top 10 suggestions here.

@boskoskender8112

3 ай бұрын

965 is great, to bad they don’t make it with sapphire. Same plastic body but with better screen protection.

Totally agree 👍🏻

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Thank you Tomas!!! And thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

I’d love to see that Suunto Race Review! Would live to know what you think (besides the good looks)

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I really would love to review that watch. I'll reach out to them again but they've never returned any of my emails. Thanks for checking out my channel mOrrr. 👍

@m0rrr

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately Suunto are very poor in terms of costumer service / answering questions etc 🙁@@mlegrand

Do the garmin watches have strength training tracking ?

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

They do have a few options for weight lifting types of activities. They will measure sets, weight and reps.

I have a Epix2 sapphire for 1+ years. I do like the independent GPS capabilities in a no cell areas. I get 1/2 day when GPS settings are at Max and recording, while hiking in the mountains. My normal GPS settings are not as aggressive but accurate and I get more than two weeks of battery before I charge it up. I track the health options and they have been helpful, as I am old and keeping in shape without breaking anything. My watch is currently in a desk drawer waiting a new original silicone band. I am hoping in the coming months Garmin might ship one. I do hope they notify me if they discontinue it. UPDATE: I hear they are starting to shipping in a week, sarcasm works, thanks matt.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Hopefully you don't have to wait very long at all. I've used Amazon bands and had them delivered in 2 days. 22mm QuickFit bands should be very easy to get: amzn.to/49i3zsF

@CamObserver

3 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand Updated my post. I do like that watch. Apple would have been ok, if I was in more cellphone areas for my iPhone. This was lingering order from getting a couple dash cams. I also have two of their Radio/GPS units.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

@@CamObserver - I might have been a little slow on picking up on your sarcasm. Glad it’s finally making it towards your place! 😆

Thanks for review :) but it so hard to decide for me, please help? Im running half marathon on trail and thinking about triathlon. I know for sure that i want Garmin and thinking about 955 my budget is 400eur. What do you think? Mostly i will use it for running and maybe 1 time per year a triathlon so 265 or 955 or other?? Please..im confused, now using galaxy watch

@jacksondalfovo5717

3 ай бұрын

Estou na mesma situação

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Garmin 265 👌

@jacksondalfovo5717

3 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand why? Isn't the 955 more complete?

@Dogster0

3 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand can i upload gpx file in it? And is it have triathlon function? Thanks!!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Should work with GPX routes and it does have a triathlon activity type.

Hey Matt, or anyone that knows - this has probably been asked before, but can you use a Garmin and an Apple watch on the same Iphone pro max 13, 14 etc. etc. and get data for both asking before I buy another watch

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

Yes, I use a Garmin and Apple Watch almost every day. I guess we’ll just need to be careful about double posting to Strava. 😆

@davidbraswell1481

2 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand tyvm

Which one will pick if you will to choose considering the price and functionality

@mlegrand

17 күн бұрын

Probably the FR 965.

Forerunner 165 coming out very soon. Should be a decent upgrade over the 55 though for me the Amoled display is not necessarily an improvement on this kind of watch.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Must be Garmin’s worst kept secret, although Garmin hasn’t told me anything yet. But it seems like a good idea for Garmin at this point. I hope it cost $200 to $230. 🤞

@robhunt8378

3 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand It will be, it needs to be competitive with the Pace 3. A UK retailer has it listed at £250 even though it hasn't even been announced yet :D

Forerunner 165 is coming next week btw, and rumors of instinct 3 in march.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

That would be awesome! Seems like something Garmin really needs right now. Hopefully it’s in that $200-$230 range. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Having owned both the Epix pro (51mm), Fenix pro solar (47mm) and the Apple Watch Ultra 2, I was disappointed with the outdoor visibility of the Epix pro. Sometimes it took an exaggerated gesture to get the screen to go bright. I never had that issue with the Fenix. I’ve found when I need to see the watch the most (during a hike or activity, the MIP display on the Fenix never let me down. On the other hand, I felt like it was more effort on the Epix pro. Unfortunately, I sold the fenix pro and regret it. I may sell my Epix pro and get a fenix pro again. To each their own. All amazing watches.

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

That’s some excellent experiences to have had. MIP displays are underrated. They’re perfect for outdoor long activities. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Had them pretty much all at one point from Garmin FENIX to the Forunner 955… in my honest opinion…. Coros Pace 3 has all the Core Features you would need… only thing obviously it don’t have is Maps…. The latest updates with HRV, Stress tracking, fitness test and fitness form,Its own variation of Snapshot, New Heart Sensor for $230 bucks… seriously… Game Changer…. All other watch makers need to take notice instead adding features to the more expensive watches and leaving the lower end ones in the dust… Coros figured it out for the common athletic person to the most Elite….

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

As you probably know, I'm a big fan of the COROS Pace 3. It's a great value option. It doesn't pretty much everything I need but I have to admit that the other watches on this list do a good bit more. It'll be interesting to see if Garmin can make a low price options that's this good. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

@Mdogbrown

3 ай бұрын

Welp, Garmin just came out with the forerunner 165. It looks to be a good competitor to the Coros.

@eoinmccann8450

2 ай бұрын

I have the instinct 2x and I love it, it has literally everything but maps and pace running from Garmin. I used to own the 965 but that was when I wasn't into running and now more recently I've got into trail running and now I miss the maps but I hated the AMOLED screen and constantly having to flick the wrist to see the screen, sometimes that didn't work and would have to tap it to light up, it was tiny things but they got on my nerves, Ive recently been wondering if I should get the fenix 7x or pro, or even the 955, I used to own the 255 and loved it but sold it for the 965 and hated what I said before about it. Part of me just thinks to stick with the instinct 2x as it will help me in every situation possible, even help me get un lost if I ever do lol but the 955 would be cheaper now and might work well, I also looked at the Coros watches, but on the fence as I'm so used to Garmin.

@mlegrand Why Garmin Enduro 2 not make the list?

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

I’m actually showing the Enduro 2 within this video a few times but it’s basically a Fenix. So I didn’t break out those subcategories like the Enduro or Tactics editions. The Enduro 2 is fantastic. It’s one of the watches I wear most. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Next Garmin with led light, maps AND calling (neither Bluetooth with connect phone or LTE) will be mine choice in 2024. Actually I have original Fenix 7, and just for led I won’t change to 7pro. I was very interested in Ultra 2, I think I can get over limited battery life, but I would be missing all Garmin stats as Body Battery, Training Readiness etc

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I’ll be very curious to see what Garmin does differently this coming year. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Between the Fenix 7x solar (non sapphire) at $560 and the Epix 2 (non sapphire) at $615 which one would you choose?

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Tricky call. If you need more battery life go with the Fenix. Also, the size of your wrist might come into play. The 7X is pretty big. I like the size but it is large.

@braddavister137

3 ай бұрын

I’d go with the 7x because of the led flashlight! Try it once and you’ll only want watches with that option!

good stuff..

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Thank you Matthias!

Hey Matt amazing list I agree with your list. My question is what watch for triathlon would you recommend. I have a Apple Watch Series 9 and to be honest its a garbage when it comes to a tracking performance, workouts and detail stats. I want a watch to do watch things and phone to do phone things. As a triathlete I am looking for a true sports watch and not a smartwatch. Cant decide between epix pro and a forerunner 965. I saw that a lot of triathletes wear a forerunner series and not a fenix/epix series. Is epix really so much heavier that you cannot do workouts or what? I would like to hear your opinion. Amazing video! Keep up legend PS. I saw that there are no triathletes that wear coros watches...wonder why🤔

@neiltimms9380

3 ай бұрын

Definitely the 965 in my opinion for triathlon. Imagine lifting that hefty epix on every swim stroke! Swimming is hard enough already lol

@josipbrstilo3338

3 ай бұрын

@@neiltimms9380 i 100% agree with you!!!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Coros watches might not be quite as accurate at open water swim tracking. I think the Pace 3 has done ok in my testing but not the other watches from Coros. Either the 965 or the Epix Pro would be perfectly fine for Ironman distance triathlons. The 965 might be preferred because of it's light weight but the Epix isn't that much heavier. The Epix Pro also has a flashlight built in which is surprisingly useful.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

@neiltimms9380 - I swim with the Epix all the time and don't notice the difference in weight from the 965. It's also a bit more durable than the 965. But the Epix also sits up just a little bit higher on the wrist. Tricky call. 🤷‍♂️

@josipbrstilo3338

3 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand Thats because you are a big/strong guy 😁💪

okay.. quick question Apple Watch ultra 1used for about 450/500.., or Apple Watch 9 for msrp ?

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Hmmmm, hard call. I think you should push hard on the price of the AWU 1. Maybe you can get it for under $400? Also, there's always the option of waiting until the Fall when Apple might announce the next version. I guess it depends on when you need a watch. 🤷‍♂️

Does the Enduro 2 not make the list?

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

I lumped the Enduro 2 and the Tactix in as just slightly different varieties of the Fenix. I think I actually show an Enduro 2 in this video when talking about a Fenix or flashlight at one point. But the Enduro 2 is one of my favorite watches. I'm wearing it right now. It's such a great device. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Nice video but i think you shouldn't left out Suunto Vertical.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Is it good? Again, I haven't been able to test any of the Suunto watches. I don't doubt that they're good. Seems like the past few watches from Suunto have been on the upswing. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Great list! I got my Epix Pro Gen 2 47 Sapphire in December and have loved it since. An all-around lifestyle companion champion.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Good choice! That's the one I posted as number 1. It does so much and has a lot going for it. 👌

You didn’t mention the Enduro 2? In my opinion the better watch compared to the Epix! My personal opinion.. 😁 love the video

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, and the Enduro 2 is one of my go to watches. I love that watch. I guess I should have wrapped it into the Fenix 7 Pro category. There aren't a ton of differences. There's also the Garmi Tactix that could have also been in here under the Fenix maybe 🤷‍♂️. Great options!

Great video Matt! You should also do a list of your top 5 or top 10 cycling computers and top 10 cycling gadgets. Take care

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Ohhhh... good idea. I've really been enjoying the Wahoo Elemnt Roam 2 lately. Thanks Hugo!

Please help! I use android. I fish and hunt a lot. There are a lot of times i cant get to my phone even though i have it to answer calls or text. Is there a rugged gps solar watch with a flashlight that can answer calls and text? I was going to get the instinct 2x, but the gps style isn't what im looking for.I have had a gear s3 frontier since they came out. I like everything it does. But want a light and good maps/gps.

@mlegrand

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, I can't think of anything that is going to cover what you need. I love the Instinct 2X with the flashlight but you won't be able to answer calls on it. Even the text messages are only canned responses.

@pharris1015

14 күн бұрын

@@mlegrand the fenix 7x pro can't answer calls?

@mlegrand

14 күн бұрын

@@pharris1015 - You can press a button to answer a call on your smart phone. So the call isn't coming from the mic or speaker on the Fenix.

I've been using the instinct 2x since it came out. It's a great watch!!! My advice, don't buy the white one, its by far the most beautiful one on the instinct series, but the bands after a few months are completely stained yellow from the sun and who knows what else... It doesn't come off,no matter how i wash it clean. Now I'm going to buy a black band. More money, and it will be black and white.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I also have some white Garmin devices. Black is the safer bet. 😬 I do love the Instinct 2X Such an amazing watch!

How about Amazfit watches, I think they have accuracy issues I have both the Apple Watch Ultra 2 and Amazfit T Rex 2 which has accuracy issues, the only good thing is their fantastic battery life

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, that T-Rex 2 is a good watch at a great price! I hesitated to put them on this list because I have seen some accuracy issues and I haven't tested their customer service. 🤷‍♂️

@dorustoica72

3 ай бұрын

i have Amazfit Balance..👍

@Steeplejackist

2 ай бұрын

​@@dorustoica72 Same. For me . has worked well and no issues with GPS accuracy. Had a 255 and although everyone rates that a lot higher than the Balance, I have ditched it. Mid range Garmin's feel and look like something out of a lucky bag. Garmin's are very accurate but way over priced.

After Epix 51 , the Ultra 2 is now my no. 1

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Nice Jiří! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 👍

What about Garmin 165?

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

It came out shortly after this video but I am hoping to review it soon. It looks like a really great option if you’re considering it.

@brucelin5842

2 ай бұрын

Does the Watch look too cheap ?@@mlegrand

Why's the Venu3 not in the list?

@mlegrand

14 күн бұрын

It's not on the list. I made this list before I had that watch for review. But the Venu 3 is excellent. I do wish that it had a few more swim friendly features. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

@koswo

14 күн бұрын

@@mlegrand just bought a Venu 3 coming from Apple Watch, so far pretty satisfied. Only thing I'm missing is a way to get my agenda entries on the main watch face and a way to snooze/turn off my iPhone alarm.

So how much did garmin pay you to exclude Polar from their list?

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Double digit payday. 💰

I'm not really understanding why you've arranged the order in the way you did. Higher price and brighter screen?

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Well, the idea is the better GPS watches towards the top of the list. These more expensive watches tend to use better materials as well. You'll see titanium and sapphire lenses for the top three for example.

I love Garmin, been looking at the 265. I wish Garmin would add phone capabilities like the Apple Watch, then it would be perfect.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's super odd. Garmin had the 945LTE and then . . . nothing 💨 I hope that Garmin will bring back a few LTE options. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Which watch do you think of amazfit is good?

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

I haven’t reviewed their newest stuff yet but I really like the GTR 4

Hey Matt!! Can you put the links to buy these watches in the comments section?? Please 🙏

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I'm on it!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Feel free to use my discount code at the Dialed Cycling Lab: (not an affiliate link) dialedcyclinglab.com/watches-gps-smart-watches/ discount code: "matt_legrand" Or these Amazon links (affiliate links) Coros Pace 3: amzn.to/4bLFhZK Apple Watch SE: amzn.to/49joax3 Garmin FR 255: amzn.to/4bWBU2z Garmin FR 265: amzn.to/4bUfezU Apple Watch Series 9: amzn.to/3T4DeZA Garmin FR 955: amzn.to/42HgIJD Suunto Race: amzn.to/42JFsAO Garmin FR 965: amzn.to/3T6Rxgp Apple Watch Ultra 2: amzn.to/3T4Dsjo Garmin Fenix 7 Pro: amzn.to/42KzZtr Garmin Epix Pro: amzn.to/3UFe4lA Instinct Solar 2X: amzn.to/3UMxFAj

@senelonaxonite8933

3 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand 😲 Thanks

Im a fairly serious marathon runner, coros and garmin allow you/ a coach to create or enter workouts into you ecosystem. Apple is abysmal for this. I have the AWU 1 and had to relegate it to a $900 iPod on my wrist. Its fitness data is sub par and I just found it so inflexible as a serious training tool. Entering repeats or long run workouts was brutal and so manual on the Apple watch. I get it it’s shiny and nice, but there’s a reason no serious sub 2:40 runners are using it in training or on race day

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Good call Bullfighter. There might be a sub 2:40 marathoner using an Apple Watch but I can't think of any. I think I wore a Nike watch when I was a 2:30 runner. Hopefully your AWU can be used daily as a bit more than an iPod. It's nice to have something tightly integrated with your phone even if it's not used on your daily runs.

Epix pro is the bomb!

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I agree. I had to put it in here as my number 1. Thank you Aldine!

can't even sht these days without a 1000 usd watch that tells you how soft it is good value, bro, good value

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I'm trying to figure out if your annoyed with this video or the general GPS watch market. 🤔

This is my first time trying to get a watch anyone recommendations for me.

@mlegrand

Ай бұрын

What are you going to use it for mostly?

wheres coros? apex 2, apex 2pro, vertix 2?

@mlegrand

17 күн бұрын

I have the COROS Pace 3 on this list which I think is an amazing value.

What I'm missing in nearly every smartwatch comparison is the hint that the AWU is garbage for the price if you don't have an iPhone.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Great point. It flat out doesn’t work without an iPhone. What a huge mistake by Apple. If they could make that one update, they’d open up their market to millions and millions of potential buyers.

We need a new Epix with 1.4 inch display with a 47mm body.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

100% agree. Hopefully Garmin is watching 👀

The question everyone wants to know but is too embarassed to ask: What is largest number of watches you've worn on one workout? 😁 Looking forward to the Epix Gen 3 that I hope releases this fall. Love my gen 2, but the end game version would have 20% more battery life (or more). I think solar could go a long way in the summer as well.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

That's a good question. I've probably maxed out at about 6 watches for a run. I tend to put them on the back of a hat and on my hands. If you wear them right next to each other they can cause GPS interference so you need to spread them out just a little.

When you comment about the quality of GPS of the watches, where are you doing your testing? I’ve found that the GPS in Apple devices is nowhere near as accurate as Garmin dual band GPS when hiking in Scotland, for example. It’s somewhat misleading to say that the GPS in Apple devices is just as good as the dual band variety used by the likes of Garmin (and maybe even Coros, not tried it myself yet), unless you only stay in areas with good cellular connectivity

@barryfrombarnsley2790

3 ай бұрын

For example, I find that Apple devices just guess where I’ve been in certain locations and when comparing against a map or a dual band GPS, I can see that it’s sometimes got the path I took on my run/hike quite wrong.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I typically wear multiple watches spaced out enough to avoid interference. Which Apple Watches have you tested? They became a lot more accurate around the Series 6. I find Garmin and Apple to be slightly more accurate than Coros. Regardless of the multi-band GPS chipset.

@barryfrombarnsley2790

3 ай бұрын

@@mlegrand it was a series 8 a couple of months ago. A few of areas of poor (at times no) cellular coverage in the lowlands, it couldn’t keep up and would make a best guess as to where I’d been, sometimes for quite lengthy periods of time. I agree with your comment wholeheartedly about the heart rate tracking etc, the Apple Watch was very accurate regarding fitness tracking etc., just the GPS was unreliable.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

@@barryfrombarnsley2790 - very interesting, it’d be interesting to do some direct comparison in an area without cell coverage. I was assuming it wouldn’t make any difference to GPS accuracy.

@barryfrombarnsley2790

3 ай бұрын

@@bogdanpop5597 ok, so the ultra model has dual band GPS. Well, then the ultra model can probably hang with the Garmin watches then. If you watch the video, none of this is mentioned, he says that the SE model has very accurate GPS right at the start then he says that the GPS accuracy of the series 9 is equal to or better than the other watches in the list. This is not true. Maybe it is for the ultra then, but I’m addressing the contents of this video.

Bro, where Polar V3? :D

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

I've yet to review it but I've heard that the heart rate tracking is off. My guess is that Polar will fix it with a software update. Hopefully I'll get to review it at some point. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

I think Suunto Vertical is better

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

As I mentioned in this video, Suunto is a brand I'd really love to review. Do you think the Vertical is as good or better than the Suunto race?

So many smart watch. U only review garmin, apple. Suunto got so many variance. Review it

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, there are so many smart watches and I only have so much of a budget for buying watches each year. I have a lot and try my best but I would have liked to cover more Suunto options, the new stuff from Polar and maybe something like Galaxy Watch. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

Not being fair to the Suunto Race

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Do you think it should be higher? I don’t disagree, I think it’s a really good option for people. I just don’t own one. 😬 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

scewed ranking, the position increases as price increases so does it mean theyre all level at same price comparison

@mlegrand

26 күн бұрын

I think that's a fair criticism. It might be more interesting to see watches ranked when at the same price. Or maybe a ranking of sub $300, then sub $600 and so forth.

bias review... all the garmin

@mlegrand

25 күн бұрын

It's bias for a lot of reasons. Ranking watches is super subjective. But I think the bias is based more on the stuff I like to do. Swimming, biking and running mostly. Thanks for checking this one out. 👍

@fabulously695

19 күн бұрын

Tbf, it doesn’t take a lot of research to see, that garmin is pretty much the best smart watch for anyone. And the is comes from an Apple Watch user, I will happily concede that any basic garmin is better than the Apple Watch Ultra unless you take phone calls on your watch regularly

Matt it is unfair to the Series 9 that the Ultra 2 knocks a podium. These watches have the exact same sport functionalities, software and thus should be separated by 1 rank, like you did for all the Garmin when the hardware is better.

@mlegrand

3 ай бұрын

Very good point RM. They could easily be next to each other in this list. I put the AWU2 up in the top three because these all have the more durable sapphire lens displays. I think if this was specifically about swimming, biking and running features, I’d actually need to group these by companies a bit more. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

@ryanmullins5085

3 ай бұрын

I’m not an AW user, but the Ultra with dual band and the precision start would be a pretty big difference imo

Ehhhhh this is Epix pro gen 2 not epix pro...

@mlegrand

2 ай бұрын

Good eye DJ. I had them both but now only have the gen 2.